Comments on: Max Keiser Blog #4 Pre-Beta – The self-expression in price discovery

By: Organismo

Organismo — Fri, 17 Apr 2009 00:44:01 +0000

Max, you do yourself an injustice – yes you’ve made some great artforms out of martforms – but you’ve also done something else rather wonderful. As you know, Hermes/Mercury is the god of commerce, communication, trickstery and theft; he walks between worlds – those of the seen and the unseen, the living and the dead, the human and non-human worlds, the gods and the mortals. I have been working for some years on ways to persuade capitalism voluntarily, happily, enthusiastically, to dissolve itself and make way for something that is less clunky. I have had a little success in some areas. You have had more. That is Hermetic work and I, for one, want to thank you for it

By: bzmoore

bzmoore — Wed, 15 Apr 2009 01:57:35 +0000

Richard Buchanan: That is a nice way to put it, 'WE are being pirated' and I might add also plundered.

By: Richard Buchanan

Richard Buchanan — Mon, 13 Apr 2009 12:07:22 +0000

If we pirate everything how we get paid? The joke is we are being pirated. not by everyone just by a few really rich media companies!!!

By: Mr Supergeek

Mr Supergeek — Mon, 13 Apr 2009 03:42:17 +0000

‘Thelonious my old friend’

By: max keiser

max keiser — Sun, 12 Apr 2009 13:42:51 +0000

Yuan

I’m talking more about creating whole markets being an expressive medium. HSX was an entirely new market that was my expression and interpretation of Hollywood using price discovery like a painter uses paint.

Its architecture of price discovery was as much an art piece as functioning market.. As users buy and sell on the exchange, expressing their self and their self-interest the shape and contours of HSX responds, not unlike how a building will change based on the use of the people who use that building.

KarmaBanque too is a completely original interpretation of markets and price discovery as a form of political and economic self expression. Hedge funds loved it, but activists unfortunately only believe that projecting a superior ‘moral authority’ can overcome corporate malfeasance. I disagree with that position as I’ve discussed many times.

Those who live by the tenets of neo-liberalism and the works of Milton Friedman take the position that economics and finance are ‘hard sciences’ ruled by math and physics but as we can all now see, markets and finance are part of the natural sciences and their direction and appreciation should be seen in the same light as paintings and sculptures.

Goldman Sachs might be immoral business men but as financial sculptors and accounting painters and balance sheet stylists they generate some interest art and fashion.

By: Yuan

Yuan — Sun, 12 Apr 2009 13:13:33 +0000

In the existing systems – price discovery & market making are already a product of self expression. There is NOTHING that is not a product self expression. Real change will only occur when there is collective transpersonal expression. This will only happen when enough people disconnecting from identifying with the ‘ego self’. Until then any new system or revolution will continue to cycle within a ‘limited’ framework reflecting the dysfunction of the ‘collective self’…. etc.

And i still love your way of shaking people up to the reality behind the financial system dysfunction Max!

By: Thomas

Thomas — Sun, 12 Apr 2009 04:46:59 +0000

Max: On the one hand you’re talking about “de-commercialization of art” and on the other you’re saying there are “revenue streams” for PMF.

So which is it?

You can’t have your cake and eat it too.

By: Mr Supergeek

Mr Supergeek — Sat, 11 Apr 2009 21:38:39 +0000

‘Funk is it’s own Reward’

By: Mep

Mep — Sat, 11 Apr 2009 21:38:20 +0000

I caught Micah’s piece on adbusters and directed him over here to check out PMF.

I hope that you will find a lot of support for this project.