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		<title>By: Rebecca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rebecca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 18:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I predict the Chinese will demand a full audit of the American banking system by the end of September.  Just a guess.</description>
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		<title>By: Palantíri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Palantíri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 13:09:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@richard – hehe thanks for reply, the problem by asking questions is that, somehow, you always ends up with even more questions…</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@richard – hehe thanks for reply, the problem by asking questions is that, somehow, you always ends up with even more questions…</p>
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		<title>By: Don (Joe bag O chickens)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don (Joe bag O chickens)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 01:18:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Rebecca

consider that most Americans work for measly wages already and have been for years.

Why not China thousands of miles away. They took the Dollar as the dominant global currency for a long time, it was thousands of miles away, unless it was in hand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Rebecca</p>
<p>consider that most Americans work for measly wages already and have been for years.</p>
<p>Why not China thousands of miles away. They took the Dollar as the dominant global currency for a long time, it was thousands of miles away, unless it was in hand.</p>
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		<title>By: harry_w</title>
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		<dc:creator>harry_w</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 00:32:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rebecca,

&quot;How can an oligarchy run a fascist dictatorship after the system of money is valueless? Who would work for a measly wage?&quot;

People can be found willing to slit anyone&#039;s throat to gain or maintain even the most trivial privilege and power.  

That&#039;s why I made the point the vast population of perpetual debt slaves who live in fear being thrown to the wolves and turning toxic.  They&#039;ll support measures like ZIRP/QE to make their debt cheaper, to make them feel like they&#039;re winners, not losers.  

That&#039;s where I see the base of popular support for instituting corporatist measures to control the economy and maintain a financial oligarchy in perpetual power.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rebecca,</p>
<p>&#8220;How can an oligarchy run a fascist dictatorship after the system of money is valueless? Who would work for a measly wage?&#8221;</p>
<p>People can be found willing to slit anyone&#8217;s throat to gain or maintain even the most trivial privilege and power.  </p>
<p>That&#8217;s why I made the point the vast population of perpetual debt slaves who live in fear being thrown to the wolves and turning toxic.  They&#8217;ll support measures like ZIRP/QE to make their debt cheaper, to make them feel like they&#8217;re winners, not losers.  </p>
<p>That&#8217;s where I see the base of popular support for instituting corporatist measures to control the economy and maintain a financial oligarchy in perpetual power.</p>
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		<title>By: Rebecca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rebecca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 22:12:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a few questions regarding this whole fiasco:

How can an oligarchy run a fascist dictatorship after the system of money is valueless?  Who would work for a measly wage?

We hear about China being the new reserve currency.  Are people going to accept a new currency value based on another culture hundreds of thousands miles away?  (I may be off a little). 

I believe the option of revolt would then ensue for even the local and federal military operations that would evidently grind to a sad halt.  Who would want to enforce draconian laws for pennies?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a few questions regarding this whole fiasco:</p>
<p>How can an oligarchy run a fascist dictatorship after the system of money is valueless?  Who would work for a measly wage?</p>
<p>We hear about China being the new reserve currency.  Are people going to accept a new currency value based on another culture hundreds of thousands miles away?  (I may be off a little). </p>
<p>I believe the option of revolt would then ensue for even the local and federal military operations that would evidently grind to a sad halt.  Who would want to enforce draconian laws for pennies?</p>
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		<title>By: juergenwahl</title>
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		<dc:creator>juergenwahl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 21:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, but I&#039;m less than petrified, at present.

Economic positives -- The yield spread is becoming more positive; LIBOR and the TED spread are declining; the Baltic Dry Index is trending upwards; and the SPX, FTSE, CAC, DAX, NIKK, and SSEC indices are all in uptrends, albeit in currently corrective modes (ex SSEC). 

Economic negatives -- Aaa/Baa spreads are widening reflecting tight money conditions. The McClellan Summation Index has rounded over after a breathtaking run upwards, precursing a significant correction in the US stock markets.

Although no one of whom I&#039;m aware possesses a crystal ball, one thing I know for sure is that some day there will be a recovery and most commentators will deny such a situation until it is well in progress. The most important, upcoming act we can perform will be assessing the extent of the the correction currently in process in the stock market. Per the Dow Theory, should there be a new low, the bear will continue and rougher times be ahead. Should the prior low hold and the recent rally high be pierced, then a baby bull will be in prospect leading the way to better times.

The best we can do is to observe and accumulate the many threads contributing to the formation of trends, and react appropriately to the trend as it unfolds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, but I&#8217;m less than petrified, at present.</p>
<p>Economic positives &#8212; The yield spread is becoming more positive; LIBOR and the TED spread are declining; the Baltic Dry Index is trending upwards; and the SPX, FTSE, CAC, DAX, NIKK, and SSEC indices are all in uptrends, albeit in currently corrective modes (ex SSEC). </p>
<p>Economic negatives &#8212; Aaa/Baa spreads are widening reflecting tight money conditions. The McClellan Summation Index has rounded over after a breathtaking run upwards, precursing a significant correction in the US stock markets.</p>
<p>Although no one of whom I&#8217;m aware possesses a crystal ball, one thing I know for sure is that some day there will be a recovery and most commentators will deny such a situation until it is well in progress. The most important, upcoming act we can perform will be assessing the extent of the the correction currently in process in the stock market. Per the Dow Theory, should there be a new low, the bear will continue and rougher times be ahead. Should the prior low hold and the recent rally high be pierced, then a baby bull will be in prospect leading the way to better times.</p>
<p>The best we can do is to observe and accumulate the many threads contributing to the formation of trends, and react appropriately to the trend as it unfolds.</p>
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		<title>By: Per</title>
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		<dc:creator>Per</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 21:08:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Herbert, I think you are doing a VERY GOOD JOB here!!!</description>
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		<title>By: harry_w</title>
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		<dc:creator>harry_w</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 19:57:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Snoop, 

I share your view. I&#039;ve just removed the specifics to the US oligarchs, because the same applies to the UK and any other countries now going down the ZIRP/QE road to financial corporatism:

&quot;The ... regime has continued supporting the oligarchs who created this mess and the next few years will be a complete fiasco. The only thing the [central bankers are] trying to do is cause inflation to make the stock-market go up nominally and wipe out some debt with massive inflation. It will be an inflationary nightmare for the same people who have to bail out the oligarchs - the middle class taxpayers as well as the poor. There is simply no way around it regardless of the propaganda...&quot;

The emerging oligarchy have been acting through these bailouts, ZIRP and QE to secure their positions and to extend the corporatist model (long seen in the military-industrial complex) to their cohorts in finance -- banking, insurance, investment.

This corporatist oligarchy of public and private debt merchants, have effectively captured the state through corruption of political parties and mass media.

They&#039;ve gamed the democratic process by exploiting the support of a vast population of perpetual debt slaves who live in fear being thrown to the wolves and turning toxic; and pandering to the dreams of debt speculators who want to join the elite who never have to work gain wealth again.

Everyone else is supposed to consider themselves lucky just to be taxed and worked to death in order to keep a corrupt bunch of mediocrities in the style they&#039;ve become accustomed to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Snoop, </p>
<p>I share your view. I&#8217;ve just removed the specifics to the US oligarchs, because the same applies to the UK and any other countries now going down the ZIRP/QE road to financial corporatism:</p>
<p>&#8220;The &#8230; regime has continued supporting the oligarchs who created this mess and the next few years will be a complete fiasco. The only thing the [central bankers are] trying to do is cause inflation to make the stock-market go up nominally and wipe out some debt with massive inflation. It will be an inflationary nightmare for the same people who have to bail out the oligarchs &#8211; the middle class taxpayers as well as the poor. There is simply no way around it regardless of the propaganda&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>The emerging oligarchy have been acting through these bailouts, ZIRP and QE to secure their positions and to extend the corporatist model (long seen in the military-industrial complex) to their cohorts in finance &#8212; banking, insurance, investment.</p>
<p>This corporatist oligarchy of public and private debt merchants, have effectively captured the state through corruption of political parties and mass media.</p>
<p>They&#8217;ve gamed the democratic process by exploiting the support of a vast population of perpetual debt slaves who live in fear being thrown to the wolves and turning toxic; and pandering to the dreams of debt speculators who want to join the elite who never have to work gain wealth again.</p>
<p>Everyone else is supposed to consider themselves lucky just to be taxed and worked to death in order to keep a corrupt bunch of mediocrities in the style they&#8217;ve become accustomed to.</p>
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		<title>By: Mep</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 18:37:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Stacy, there are 3 statistics that frequently haunt me:

1. That there are only 2 points in American history where household debt was the equivalent of total GDP: in 1929 and now.

2. Only 2 points where the top 1% of Americans earned 20% of the nation&#039;s income: 1929 and now.

3. Only 2 points where the top 1% owned 40% of the nation&#039;s wealth: 1929 and now.

PBS made a good documentary on the 1929 crash. In the section on &quot;Mass Illusion,&quot; they talk about how indicators of the health of the real economy were ignored in 1928 and in the run-up to the crash.  Wall Street ignored rising unemployment, falling demand for autos and other consumer goods, and  they kept pumping up the markets.  Seems to me that the same sort of disconnect happened between Wall Street and the real economy this time around. To a large degree, it looks like it&#039;s still happening. 

Documentary: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/crash/program/index.html

I believe that you&#039;re right: that the worst is yet to come.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Stacy, there are 3 statistics that frequently haunt me:</p>
<p>1. That there are only 2 points in American history where household debt was the equivalent of total GDP: in 1929 and now.</p>
<p>2. Only 2 points where the top 1% of Americans earned 20% of the nation&#8217;s income: 1929 and now.</p>
<p>3. Only 2 points where the top 1% owned 40% of the nation&#8217;s wealth: 1929 and now.</p>
<p>PBS made a good documentary on the 1929 crash. In the section on &#8220;Mass Illusion,&#8221; they talk about how indicators of the health of the real economy were ignored in 1928 and in the run-up to the crash.  Wall Street ignored rising unemployment, falling demand for autos and other consumer goods, and  they kept pumping up the markets.  Seems to me that the same sort of disconnect happened between Wall Street and the real economy this time around. To a large degree, it looks like it&#8217;s still happening. </p>
<p>Documentary: <a href="http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/crash/program/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/crash/program/index.html</a></p>
<p>I believe that you&#8217;re right: that the worst is yet to come.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 18:34:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good article on :
The Exuberance Glut Or The Dollar-Euro Short Squeeze Race

from ZeroHedge .. just in :

http://zerohedge.blogspot.com/2009/05/exuberance-glut-or-dollar-euro-short.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good article on :<br />
The Exuberance Glut Or The Dollar-Euro Short Squeeze Race</p>
<p>from ZeroHedge .. just in :</p>
<p><a href="http://zerohedge.blogspot.com/2009/05/exuberance-glut-or-dollar-euro-short.html" rel="nofollow">http://zerohedge.blogspot.com/2009/05/exuberance-glut-or-dollar-euro-short.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 18:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Palantiri: When I state &quot;the private banking system&quot; I am referring to the many regional and small cap banks, S&amp;L&#039;s, credit unions and the like...NOT the inner sanctum of G-S, BofA, Citi, Wells Fargo, Morgan-Stanley, AIG, and a host of other &quot;bailout banks&quot;, former credit card issuing companies(ie: AMEX), and other institutions (ie:Chrysler)....There is a hold on furthering the credit market from heading down the road to &quot;recovery&quot; as imo there will be no recovery as we might envision;or one  that former and current economists have become Nobel prize lauriats previously describing (theorizing?) in this area of cyclical economics...We are in in a place &quot;where no man has dared to go&quot;  ----UNCHARTERED WATERS~~~~regards, richard@lattitude30N</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Palantiri: When I state &#8220;the private banking system&#8221; I am referring to the many regional and small cap banks, S&amp;L&#8217;s, credit unions and the like&#8230;NOT the inner sanctum of G-S, BofA, Citi, Wells Fargo, Morgan-Stanley, AIG, and a host of other &#8220;bailout banks&#8221;, former credit card issuing companies(ie: AMEX), and other institutions (ie:Chrysler)&#8230;.There is a hold on furthering the credit market from heading down the road to &#8220;recovery&#8221; as imo there will be no recovery as we might envision;or one  that former and current economists have become Nobel prize lauriats previously describing (theorizing?) in this area of cyclical economics&#8230;We are in in a place &#8220;where no man has dared to go&#8221;  &#8212;-UNCHARTERED WATERS~~~~regards, richard@lattitude30N</p>
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		<title>By: richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 17:30:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Palantiri: I guess that&#039;s a trillion dollar question; as no one has access to the FED&#039;s books ( yet?? ); and  as I am not a CPA, I can only surmise that the interest paid to the individual banks is an electronic accounting modification ( this new feature is a ploy by the FED so that the banks keep their money in the repository and DON&#039;T lend out the money to their customers)....As I understand the FED&#039;s style of accounting, most of the amounts we are hearing about ( including  the toxic collateral instruments and mortgages on their books) are mounting so rapidly that now Congress wants in on the &quot;transparency&quot; issue. The FED have been successful ( so far ) at hiding the &quot;printing press&quot; numbers when they stopped publishing the M3...regardless, www.Shadowstats.com have been able to  discover the numbers monthly anyway. The last time I looked it was advancing beyond a 18% inflation rate ( and so that effects the value of the currency, the FOREX trades and the bond sales. Thus we are faced with the real possibility that government bonds/bills might face hard times at the auctions soon....apparently the number of auctions has increased and the amount per auction too....also a 7 year bond was added....these auctions, held throughout the year enable the government to function ( and in this instance that means to pay down the debt to the FED...which this year is aprox. &lt;$2 trillion in interest!!!!!....That&#039;s why guys like Max Keiser have been calling for an increase in the FED prime/funds rate to attract foreign buyers into the  bond auctions ( the warning is that if some auctions fail and the likelihood increases daily here-and in Britain too-then either/or country&#039;s bond rating agencies MIGHT downgrade the government treasury bonds @ auction from it&#039;s current AAA rating to a lower one...Now remember some enormous investment funds are mandated  to only buy AAA rated funds...that&#039;s part of what got us into this mess to begin with!!!) ...so the private banking sector is possibly not in the back seat and was never in the front...and might be hanging on to the bumper by now....that&#039;s how precarious the financial world is traveling in a forward direction.....A further consolidation in the banking sector will imo continue over the months ahead. Hope my seminal rant answered your question, Richard@lattitude30N</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Palantiri: I guess that&#8217;s a trillion dollar question; as no one has access to the FED&#8217;s books ( yet?? ); and  as I am not a CPA, I can only surmise that the interest paid to the individual banks is an electronic accounting modification ( this new feature is a ploy by the FED so that the banks keep their money in the repository and DON&#8217;T lend out the money to their customers)&#8230;.As I understand the FED&#8217;s style of accounting, most of the amounts we are hearing about ( including  the toxic collateral instruments and mortgages on their books) are mounting so rapidly that now Congress wants in on the &#8220;transparency&#8221; issue. The FED have been successful ( so far ) at hiding the &#8220;printing press&#8221; numbers when they stopped publishing the M3&#8230;regardless, <a href="http://www.Shadowstats.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.Shadowstats.com</a> have been able to  discover the numbers monthly anyway. The last time I looked it was advancing beyond a 18% inflation rate ( and so that effects the value of the currency, the FOREX trades and the bond sales. Thus we are faced with the real possibility that government bonds/bills might face hard times at the auctions soon&#8230;.apparently the number of auctions has increased and the amount per auction too&#8230;.also a 7 year bond was added&#8230;.these auctions, held throughout the year enable the government to function ( and in this instance that means to pay down the debt to the FED&#8230;which this year is aprox. &lt;$2 trillion in interest!!!!!&#8230;.That&#8217;s why guys like Max Keiser have been calling for an increase in the FED prime/funds rate to attract foreign buyers into the  bond auctions ( the warning is that if some auctions fail and the likelihood increases daily here-and in Britain too-then either/or country&#8217;s bond rating agencies MIGHT downgrade the government treasury bonds @ auction from it&#8217;s current AAA rating to a lower one&#8230;Now remember some enormous investment funds are mandated  to only buy AAA rated funds&#8230;that&#8217;s part of what got us into this mess to begin with!!!) &#8230;so the private banking sector is possibly not in the back seat and was never in the front&#8230;and might be hanging on to the bumper by now&#8230;.that&#8217;s how precarious the financial world is traveling in a forward direction&#8230;..A further consolidation in the banking sector will imo continue over the months ahead. Hope my seminal rant answered your question, Richard@lattitude30N</p>
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		<title>By: Danny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Danny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 17:24:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ireland biggest external world debtor in the world- 811% of GDP!
.....Fianna Fáil (&#039;ruling&#039; party) with 10% approval rate- and not a sniff of revolution. you think you got it bad in America....ppfffttt...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ireland biggest external world debtor in the world- 811% of GDP!<br />
&#8230;..Fianna Fáil (&#8216;ruling&#8217; party) with 10% approval rate- and not a sniff of revolution. you think you got it bad in America&#8230;.ppfffttt&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Rich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 17:22:03 +0000</pubDate>
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