[1033] The Truth About . . . Moats and Electric Gates

May 23rd, 2009 by stacyherbert

Stacy Summary:  The dollar, sterling, neo-feudalism, Chinese navy and more.  What’s happening where you are this weekend?

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  • Photoception
    May 23, 2009 at 12:02 pm

    The Guillotine was invented during the French Revolution, not used in the peasant revolt. But the problem with Hank Paulson is that he has no hair to grasp on his severed head.

    Let’s call for a new age of enlightenment! The only historical parallel is the French Revolution. Max Keiser is the Marat of our time.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Paul_Marat

    How can we finance the revolution Max?

  • Danny
    May 23, 2009 at 12:34 pm

    Getting Jones on?? E X C E L L E N T!!!!

    I think you two should have a “Rant Off’. hahaha!

    (Alex Jones) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=le89JY3Angg&feature=related

  • Mike/Liverpool
    May 23, 2009 at 12:49 pm

    Looks like i didn’t make the cut :(
    Mike

  • Phil
    May 23, 2009 at 12:55 pm

    Two new articles of interest :

    Is the US-Dollar headed for a Mighty Crash?
    http://www.kitco.com/ind/dorsch/may212009.html

    TIME TO GET OUT THE WHEELBARROWS?
    ANOTHER LOOK AT THE WEIMAR HYPERINFLATION
    http://www.webofdebt.com/articles/hyperinflation.php

    The second article offers an intersting twist on the 1920-1923 era. Basically blames foreign banking speculators for the “hyper” part of the inflation rather than the German Govt.

    FWIW

  • Dedo
    May 23, 2009 at 2:04 pm

    Best to keep an open mind,…….?,……what says you Phil,….

  • Veritas
    May 23, 2009 at 2:22 pm

    Regarding the Dorsh article:
    I get the feeling that only when the US dollar is nearly worthless and we have a police state and 200,000 people are in concentration camps, only then will the David Rockefeller types be satisfied. Then they’ll bring back the outsourced factories and pay Americans as little as they do the Chinese. Thus they are deliberately bankrupting America. This was the real purpose of 9/11.

  • Free Drive Ro
    May 23, 2009 at 3:15 pm

    We are done for! (Jean Paul Marat)

    “Five or six hundred heads would have guaranteed your freedom and happiness but a false humanity has restrained your arms and stopped your blows. If you don’t strike now, millions of your brothers will die, your enemies will triumph and your blood will flood the streets. They’ll slit your throats without mercy and disembowel your wives. And their bloody hands will rip out your children’s entrails to erase your love of liberty forever.”

  • Max Power
    May 23, 2009 at 3:19 pm

    The Guillotine has its origins in Scotland, maybe with some refinements in Ireland before it spread to Western Europe and Central Europe.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guillotine

    It was used as recently as 1939 by France, and may have been used by the Germans in France during WWII.

    TV programmes that cover this topic
    “What The Tudors Did For Us” (BBC)
    “Terry Gilliam’s Midevil Lives” (BBC)

    At the Google Videos there is a video of its use in France, but film stock quality is low. You will have to look that up yourself…

  • Max Power
    May 23, 2009 at 3:22 pm

    If there is a possibility of Gold confiscation some time during this finance crisis (that may last 2 decades or more), why are you (and those like you) not placing value on physical possession of Silver, Platinum and Palladium?

    They are just metals to me, as I had a jewelery making class in college in the USA…

  • Barnet Burns
    May 23, 2009 at 3:29 pm

    You guys are considering New Zealand as a bolthole?. Down South you might be rubbing shoulders with a rumoured Arnie, maybe planning escape from a Californian peasants tax revolt? (now denied: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=10569982), Shania Twain (who owns half of Otago province – a little further South than Canterbury province) and John Travolta. Still, there may be mass social unrest amongst the dairying classes and their related service sectors if this new US dairy protectionism sinks our fragile economic boat. At least they are as well armed as their American equivalents.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=10574271

    Not that we can take on more public debt to hand out our own agricultural subsidies during a period of deglobalisation. And what would a breakdown in the global trade system, and the consequent increased difficulty of accessing foreign credit as our ability to service debt is reduced, mean for an economy where 97% of individual net wealth is tied up in residential property (highest ratio of all Western countries)?. No one invests in productive business and Fonterra, the huge dairy conglomerate, doesn’t offer public share issues. Our property bubble has yet to deflate as much as other Western countries,
    but the over reliance sets us up for Ireland/Spain/Iceland type disaster?. Silver lining is that soon I’ll be able to service both my student loan and a mortgage whose relation to average income is more realistic.

    And note this on the over leveraged state of the dairying industry at the moment (hence extremely vulnerable to a period of agricultural protectionism?)….

    “The biggest potential time bomb is agriculture, particularly the dairy sector. The Reserve Bank has consistently warned about high debt levels in the farming sector and has backed this up with compelling statistics. In its May 2008 report there was a special section showing that entrants to the dairy sector since 1997 were highly geared. In the November 2008 document there was a graph showing that agriculture debt had risen from 130 per cent to 467 per cent of agriculture GDP since December 1990.

    The latest Financial Stability Report shows that the agriculture sector now has total borrowings of $43.6 billion with dairy farming accounting for 61.5 per cent of this, grain, sheep and beef cattle producers 26.1 per cent and other agriculture activities 12.5 per cent. The problem is twofold because many dairy farmers are highly geared, particularly new entrants, as is Fonterra. This double debt situation will be a major problem if dairy realisations don’t improve.”

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=10572571

    Maybe our only hope is that our banks mistakenly deposit $10 million into all our bank accounts and we can do a collective runner to Australia/South East Asia?

  • Mike/Liverpool
    May 23, 2009 at 3:32 pm

    Can someone look at this:-
    http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article10817.html

    MP:- They won’t try to nab the Gold, they try to tax it.
    Mike

  • Barnet Burns
    May 23, 2009 at 3:34 pm

    Typo: “At least they are as well armed as their American equivalents” should read “At least they aren’t as well armed as their American equivalents”.

  • Bill Stewart
    May 23, 2009 at 3:44 pm

    There is a message for: Mike/Liverpool

    at:
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Australian-marry-preg/message/1724

    and a partly related followup at

    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Australian-marry-preg/message/1723

    as it is unknown if this will be answered via TAM-NZL

    Its not really that interesting, more Physical & Cultural Geography stuff.

    You will need to subscribe to read it I believe…

    Mostly the list is an archive of MK links and articles, but it has Interest.co.nz links and articles as well as CBC News (Money) content.

  • Dedo
    May 23, 2009 at 3:45 pm

    @Mike,….Oh what a tangled web we weave,.when at first we practise to deceive,……

  • Mep
    May 23, 2009 at 3:45 pm

    @ Max & Stacy: A couple random things while I’m finishing up listening to your show in another window:

    1) we also had a rockin’ time in the US during The Great Railroad Strike of 1877: http://www.ranknfile-ue.org/uen_1877.html

    2) re: attacking social security and entitlements; interesting that you bring it up. I personally think that there are already people working out the details of using the cover of crisis to attack these programs. A week or so ago, I was checking out former labor secretary Robert Reich’s blog; he had written a blog about social security. For the first time since I’ve been reading his blog, a person affiliated with the Cato institute commented on there and linked to his own blog where he attacked Reich and attempted to lay the groundwork for why entitlements need to be changed.

    3) Re: the torture program debate, it was recently discovered that none other than Alberto Gonzalez was actually signing off on some of the torture orders!! He was White House council at that time and was allowed that authority in the Bush White House. This was even before the legal framework had been created to re-define torture.

  • Barnet Burns
    May 23, 2009 at 4:02 pm

    Gold as store of value and democratic agitation – here’s a nice historical precedent from the Antipodes: the Eureka Stockade Revolt on the Victorian goldfields, 1854. A bunch of diggers revolted against state “confiscation” of their gold derived wealth (over taxation, regulation etc.), and the protest was broadened to include democratic enfranchisement. It was violently put down, but the revolt is widely seen as being the birth of democracy in Australia (all white male enfranchisement at least, ahem, cough….). Rise up?.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eureka_stockade

  • Mike/Liverpool
    May 23, 2009 at 4:18 pm

    Dedo
    Don’t follow?
    Mike

  • Dedo
    May 23, 2009 at 4:21 pm

    @ Hot head,………love the idea of birth,..?

  • whisperhello
    May 23, 2009 at 4:42 pm

    TAM! TAM! TAM!

    When the BNP takes power in britian, honor and dignity will replace disgrace and large scale looting of tax payer dollars

  • Barnet Burns
    May 23, 2009 at 4:44 pm

    Here’s a nice coincidence. Peter Finch, who went on to scream at his comotose viewers to “rise up!” in “Network” (1976), was eighth-billed as “Humffray” in an Ealing production recounting the events at Eureka, “Eureka Stockade” (1949)….

  • Mike/Liverpool
    May 23, 2009 at 4:50 pm

    No, still don’t follow.

    Max/Stacy
    Why not have a “Ring in” section were you can have a pannel of guests……..I be willing to on it.
    Mike

  • Daniel S
    May 23, 2009 at 6:39 pm

    I wanted to suggest the possibility of using gain control on your audio. It evens out volume, making the quiet parts louder and the loud parts quieter. For someone trying to listen quietly while someone sleeps, or someone wearing headphones who doesn’t want their ears blasted, or someone listening while away from their PC, it’s nice when files have fairly even/level volume.

  • Daniel S
    May 23, 2009 at 6:48 pm

    Please read from “On December 14th” here:

    http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/122004_goodbye_giant.shtml

    to get Mike Ruppert’s take on Alex Jones.

    In my opinion, for the reasons Mike cited in 2004, Alex is one of those friend’s whose sword is more dangerous than your enemies.

  • snoop diddy
    May 23, 2009 at 6:58 pm

    Australia’s budget outlined submarines to go from 12 to 24. No doubt to counter China aircraft carrier program in the Indian Ocean and the US with their own troubles.

  • Vlado
    May 23, 2009 at 7:52 pm

    Re:
    My wife and I went for a nice walk and cups of coffee this afternoon, using the opportunity to enjoy some warm weather after a long time (the weather here in May varies from 0 degrees to 25 degrees C and it can change to the extreme in 24 hours, so you get a picture). I’m going to listen to new TAM on Sunday. I hope you and Max have a great weekend.

  • snoop diddy
    May 23, 2009 at 9:20 pm

    If Santa was copyrighted and given endless extensions, he’d just be some fat guy at a theme park.

  • janmarsh
    May 23, 2009 at 9:34 pm

    Bilderberg. Conrad Black. Telegraph. M.P. Allowance Set-up.

    How to exploit the temptation of self interest in Human nature to discredit an existing political system.

  • marcus
    May 23, 2009 at 10:40 pm

    as for what’s happening ‘where i am this weekend?’ here’s a cute story from australia [just in case you have ever wondered what it's like to live here ? or die here ? ] a wonderful story of people opposing a small hospice for terminally ill people because local home owners are worried about effect this will have on falling property prices , [why blame banks , peoples greed or your own stupidity when you can blame a few sick and dying people for the falling price of your home,] welcome to australia. http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,25527424-1248,00.html

  • George
    May 23, 2009 at 10:46 pm

    You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich. You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong. You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift. You cannot lift the wage earner up by pulling the wage payer down. You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred. You cannot build character and courage by taking away men’s initiative and independence.
    You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they could,
    and should, do for themselves.
    Lincoln

  • snoop diddy
    May 23, 2009 at 11:28 pm

    water boarding vid
    of ManCow or however it’s spelt

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cB-nzZNixd8

  • Mother Earth
    May 24, 2009 at 1:02 am

    I made a silver discovery! ;-)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkTuiXKS-Mo

    (am working with a broken camera trying out some editing stuff)

  • sharon
    May 24, 2009 at 3:41 am

    @Photoception,
    Don’t forget that the last French Rovolution was financed by the same oligarchs (their ancestors) as we have today. I assume they got something out of it and that’s the point. They tend to get involved in everything so that the outcome will be favourable to them.

  • sharon
    May 24, 2009 at 4:18 am

    @ Mike/Liverpool,
    Re: your link – You gonna be moving to Costa Rica then Mike?

    Did you notice how it covered what other countries were likely to do but made the point that the UK would in all likelihood be left out in the cold (ie. when Europe makes an alliance with Russia)?
    Difficult to know whether to stick around don’t you think?

  • James
    May 24, 2009 at 12:37 pm

    Couch potato activisim is also coined Oh-Dearisim as set out by Adam Curtis

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doKHQZobymg

  • Mr Supergeek
    May 24, 2009 at 11:10 pm

    Great show…This weekend I really enjoyed TAM especially at..10.12..’ I was on the bus and heard a 6 year old girl say’… “the politicians are taking.us all for mugs”…..

    I think it’s time to cut to a clip of people waving flags while patroticic music plays in the background…

  • Mike
    May 25, 2009 at 5:35 am

    @daniel s.
    alex jones is just a person. he can’t always be right.
    however he does provide a lot of useful information.
    just like with any other source of info, each one of us should check the info out for ourselves. in that way we can avoid following other people’s agendas. jones is still better than MSM.

  • Veritas
    May 25, 2009 at 1:57 pm

    Speaking of interest payments on the US Debt, back in 2004-2005 I put some signs on the back of my truck to give the numbers…

    http://firmitas.org/TruckSign.jpg

    You’d be surprised how many fellow Americans came up to me and thanked me for spilling the beans. A few people left notes of thanks as well. Of course, that was in California.

  • ys
    May 27, 2009 at 6:32 pm

    Max Keiser, please explain how the Chinese government can come up with the money to buy up the US treasuries.

    When people talk about the large trade deficit between the US and China, it’s not the US consumers dealing directly with the Chinese government. The US companies are dealing with Chinese companies. The Chinese government get a fraction of that money from taxes on those business transactions. This tax revenue minus the Chinese government’s expenses is what is left over for investing in US treasuries. However, considering that the Chinese government has it’s own stimulus package, I wouldn’t think, the surplus (if any) of the Chinese government is enough to keep purchasing the US treasuries.