Reading the signs and crop circles: recession or recovery?

Stacy Summary: I have included below a headline I covered yesterday about IMF stating that worst may lie ahead.  @Russ objected to my headline of Strauss-Kahn’s statement.  But, as you can see below, the Guardian interpreted his statement in exactly the same way that I did.  What are your thoughts?

Stacy:  Telegraph seems to be treating the story as if crop circles are not man-made?  Maybe the crop circle phoenix is the real green shoots that is the absolute end of our current oligarchic system and perhaps something better lies ahead?

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74 Responses to Reading the signs and crop circles: recession or recovery?

  1. Reply on Stacies IMF comment.

    The IMF is in direct collusion and partnership to the people controlling the money supply. They are aware of collapsing the dollar deliberately. They are offering loans to countries for control by dept as is so obvious in the book “economic hitman”. I am not wrong that the IMF is aggressively offering loans to almost every country on the planet….we read about it everyday.
    The IMF is working toward utilizing debt for control. Whether or not the government accepts the loans at this time matters not……THEY WILL …..as their economies deteriorate……..
    The IMF is being utilized to put as many countries into debt with them as possible to force them to play ball when the time … The IMF is totally aware that the country WILL DEFAULT ON THEIR LOAN FROM THEM. Because……the IMF is in total participation of the future collapse of the dollar and world economies. They know…..without question…..the countries…..will not be able to make good on their loan ! It is deliberate.
    Stacy…you are brilliant. I love listening to you and Max so very much but you are utilizing present information with past education. You must realize that this is not about what you have learned about the “money” !
    THIS CURRENT SITUATION IS ALL ABOUT AGENDA.
    All aspects of fair market, banking, money etc etc etc is not rellevant…….
    This is about control of the money supply. NOT THE MONEY ITSELF! THE MONEY AND THE NUMBERS OF ALL CURRENCIES IS NOT RELLEVANT.
    IT IS ABOUT HAVING AND INCREASING THE CONTROL OF THE MONEY. IT IS ALL ABOUT AGENDA OF ESTABLISHING AND BEING IN CONTROL OF WORLD CURRENCY…..STEP BY STEP……DECADE BY DECADE.

    This is a coordination of the collapse of the dollar for currency rebirth there by enabling the exponential increase in power by the same entities that caused the collapse to be at the helm to control it. Step by step.
    The IMF is working toward ensuring the next step.

  2. People voted for Barack Obama but all crop circles are fake?

    So smart, yet so gullible.

    Lucky for us, the governments of the world only hide financial data.

    (((shaking my head)))

    The European not only colonized the world and it’s people, they also colonized all the information about the world and it’s people.

    The big secret is ABUNDANCE.

    And when in the business of “SCARCITY” as central bank run governments are, boundaries are essential. Endless boundaries, endless separation; like children on schoolyard playground. NO UNITY! The white man know’s nothing of Unity.

    To say that all crop circles are man made is ignorant in and irresponsible.

    Do your own research to keep form repeating someone else’s opininon. The internet has all the proof you need.

    (Google: UFO’s &; Jamie Massaun, Lt. Col Philip Corso, Robert Hastings, Bob Salas, Nikola Tesla, Verna Von Braun, UFO Disclosure Project, “STAR WARS”, The Orion Conspiracy, HAARP, Bill Uhouse, Dennis Kucinich, Ronald Regan, Jimmy Carter, etc…)

    Marcus Garvey’s entire message was: ONE-aim ONE-God & ONE-destiny.

    According to numerology: 12.21.2012 = 1

    Good luck trying to avoid unity in the last days.

  3. Youri Carma

    btw Crop circles are man made and there are even companies who make a living of making advertisement crop circles for clients.

    But there are also many amateur groups who spend there weekends like graffiti makers flattening the wheat fields on an artistic way.

    Sorry to have disappointed the believers I was almost one.

    Making the firefox logo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_KXhf1BI-k

  4. Youri Carma

    @Dan

    Yep, IMO first mid 2009 now 2010 and in 2010 the say 2011 and so on….

    @Nancy S, Huntington Bch, CA

    That’s why the know that the CO2 always comes after the earth has warmed up and never before like the fraudster CO2 conman ask for. Ice monsters proofed and measured the air quality of thousands of years ago when there where periods which 10X CO2 and more plants and oxygen around. Till 2005 there indeed was some warming of the earth and OTHER PLANETS! After 2005 No Sunspots! On Mars it snowed in 2008 and in some places on earth they had the coldest winter ever!

    PLANETS WARM UP (was before 2005)
    http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nwtonline.nl%2F00%2Fnt%2Fnl%2F47%2Fartikel%2F2365%2Findex.html&sl=nl&tl=en&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

  5. People in LA now using bear-proof garbage bins to keep out human scavengers:

    http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-outthere16-2009jun16,0,2611118.story

  6. Nancy S, Huntington Bch, CA

    Creepy. A small purple microbe that spent more than 120,000 years in hibernation deep beneath a Greenland ice sheet is alive again. Scientists at Pennsylvania State University revived the bug in a lab by warming it in an incubator over the course of 11 months, Scientific American reported.
    The bacterium, which was found under nearly two miles of ice, began producing fresh colonies when it was reawakened. http://news.aol.com/article/greenland-microbe/527511?icid=main|htmlws-sb|dl1|link4|http%3A%2F%2Fnews.aol.com%2Farticle%2Fgreenland-microbe%2F527511

  7. IMF says recovery by 2010! Heck yeah!

    They’ll be correct this time right? The recovery forecasted for late 2008, early 2009, mid and late 2009 that never materialized were anomalies . . . right? If the IMF says it, it must be so. What possibly could be gained from skewing the forecast.

    Move along people, nothing to see here.

  8. Stacy while your talking about Medvedev if you have time, mention this little art scandal “The Bull, the Bear, Art, War, Sex and Trouble”

    http://www.readrussia.com/blog/art/00200/

    re what’s up in Iran: How much has Mousavi changed since the 80′s? involved in Iran-Contra and possibly Hezbollah?
    http://bit.ly/JBVKT

    and just because i love weirdness re: new energy’s on earth

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelm_Reich#Orgone_accumulators_and_cloudbusters
    &
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aether_theories

  9. @george mcclure

    George,
    I might have sounded cynical, but I agree there’s a lot to this – cycles, alignments, etc.
    IIRC, the great Flood ( Noah ) was supposed to have been ca. 3600 years ago.

  10. If economists did understand the economy, we would not have these problems. The crisis can only be solved if the root causes are recognised. These are usury (interest on money) and credit (the creation of money out of nothing).

    If someone brought a 1/10 oz gold coin to the bank in the year 1 AD, and the money remained there until the year 2000 AD, collecting a yearly interest of 4%, the amount of gold in the account would have been 3.6 * 10^31 kilograms of gold. This is 1.9 * 10^27 cubic metres of gold weighing 317 times the complete mass of the Earth. This example demonstrates that interest on money is unsustainable and leads to crisis.

    Credit and interest on money make it possible for an economy to grow above potential during a boom phase. In the boom phase investors add leverage using credit which further intensifies the boom, creating shortages of materials and labour resulting in rising prices. Interest on money entices banks to lend money to leveraged investors. Credit makes it possible to create money out of thin air, which enables the banks to fuel the boom. When the cycle turns into bust, investors start to deleverage, which intensifies the bust, creating surplusses of materials and labour resulting in falling prices. What most economists do not see, is that credit and interest on money are the root causes of economic booms and busts.

    If you see the root causes of the problem, it becomes possible to end the depression in a few months, to have constant economic growth at maximum potential without crisis forever without unemployment or government intervention. You can read more about it here:

    http://www.naturalmoney.org/introduction.html

  11. @stacey When do I start?

  12. @Stacy … link KO ?

  13. @george mcclure .. 2012

    … and Hollywood with make big dollars from the Film of course !
    ;-)

  14. Stacy, RE your “Crop circles” question, Maya elders calm us with messages “don’t be afraid” and “there is rebirth with destruction”. As Earth and our solar system aligns with the center of the Milky Way Galaxy, and the sun lost its magnetic shield (reported last month), we on Earth are subjected to more radiation and new forms of energy.

    Some say this new and increased energy may cause cataclysmic Earth changes, such as the weird “asperitus” clouds, polar caps growing back (Mars, Earth, moons of Jupiter), new land, melting ice sheets, raising oceans, and discombobulated weather world wide.

    As this galactic alignment only occurs every 26,000 years, with lesser cycles of 3600 years, there is historical and geological correlative evidence supporting it. All things economic collapse, financial collapse, the exposure of the vast criminal behaviour of the elite, global famine and water shortage, spawned or natural pandemics, WMD wars, and so on – all correlate with the Mayan prophetic calendars.

    Further reading/learning: Check out youtube “Mayan Ian North”, google “J Calleman Mayan”, and http://trowbridgeplanetearth.com/2012/2012-spirit.html

  15. The Deepest Recession in Half a Century

    - Rising unemployment prevent any boom after the bust, and stunt a manufacturing recovery.

    - Mines and utilities dropped 1.1 percent, and the share of industrial capacity in use slid to a record low.

    - Nucor Corp., the second-largest U.S. steel producer by sales, said in May it was running its mills at 45 percent capacity.

    - Yields on benchmark 10-year notes rose for the first time in four days, to 3.75 percent, from 3.71 percent late yesterday.

    - Factory production was down 15 percent since May 2008, the biggest 12-month drop since 1946.

    - The amount of industrial capacity in use dropped to 68.3 percent, the lowest level since records began in 1967.

    FROM: U.S. Economy: Housing Starts Climb, Industrial Output Sinks, 16 June 2009, by Shobhana Chandra and Bob Willis (Bloomberg) http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=111534.msg693091#msg693091

  16. @All – we are covering the Medvedev / gold / sdr stuff on this week’s On the Edge

    @Mother Earth – you have some very good ideas; perhaps you should be our director for On the Road with On the Edge with Max Keiser!

    @mike king – you are wrong that the IMF is loaning aggressively to all the countries of the world; in fact, they are having no luck loaning to many countries that have turned to either China or their own savings; the only countries taking money from the IMF are the Eastern European countries for the most part (and Iceland) . . . and these loans are to bail out the Western European banks from their bad loans; same deal really as what happened in the 80′s when all the Latin American and African loans by Citibank went bad so the IMF ‘bailed out’ these nations to bail out Citibank.

  17. @Mark Bailey

    Glenn Greenwald does great take downs of the “echo chamber” in the MSM as well defending the US constitution and parsing of hypocrisy (like today)

    http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/

  18. if the news gets a little to much this is a nice diversion

    http://atlasobscura.com/

    a reminder of the weird and wonderful

  19. @Stacey

    “…@Russ objected to my headline of Strauss-Kahn’s statement. But, as you can see below, the Guardian interpreted his statement in exactly the same way that I did. What are your thoughts?…”

    There is a phenomenon known as the echo-chamber effect, a type of positive feedback:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positive_feedback

    “…
    For example, observers of journalism in the mass media describe an echo chamber effect in media discourse. One purveyor of information will make a claim, which many like-minded people then repeat, overhear, and repeat again (often in an exaggerated or otherwise distorted form) until most people assume that some extreme variation of the story is true.
    …”

    This website in particular shows an echo-chamber effect, as it sifts many news outlets picking new stories of a particular nature (the economy is tanking, you’re being robbed, wake up sheeple!). Certain commentators who have the same point of view, then reinforce this view of the world with their own comments and research. Also Max on Alex’s show, Alex and Max’s show…

    Just a bit of negative feedback for stability :-)

  20. Factory production own 15% since May 2008 – biggest 12-month drop since 1946 http://tinyurl.com/mknalz

  21. @THE AMERICAN A L M A N A C
    Behind Regnery’s doors / The British are coming
    http://american_almanac.tripod.com/witches.htm

    Amazing what you can find on the internet !
    …. while researching the name Ambrose Evans-Pritchard.

    ;-)

  22. Oh wait, what is this…

    Yet another hedge fund betting on hyperinflation….

    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601213&sid=aku06Rgam3n0

  23. I’m gonna print me some fake bonds, wear me some purple socks and fiddle osentibly with them on the table while sipping a Barolo on a terras in the Piemont mountains…

  24. Good news: Medvedev want a partial gold standard: http://is.gd/13CWf

  25. AP: Russian President Dmitry Medvedev: “The main reserve currency, the dollar, has failed to serve its purpose”

    http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/front/archives/2009/06/17/2003446395

  26. They dont want to know whose making the crop circles, but they’ll be damned if some chav gets away with spraypainting a wall.

  27. Why dont they set some CCTV’s up in the cornfeilds?

  28. Mr Supergeek

    ……..and one more thing Lay off the Phoenix

    …..sometimes I feel ashamed of my old days on the hippy trail (Glastonbury’Stonehenge ley lines etc).
    But I’ll always be proud of the phoenix tatoo I have on my back…beside the personal significance I always thought the phoenix was a positive symbol immortality etc

  29. The news about the 134 billion $USD T-Bills are spreading but of course not as the headline it should be. Ah well…

    btw, what is the status on the Comex market, crash any time soon?

  30. @ Nancy,.. and he started off selling plastic ducks,..!! hmmm

  31. In the 19th century the real battle in the US was the fight to stop the central bankers from taking over the country. We lost that battle in 1913. The President who kills the FED will be the hero of his day. The FED caused the Great Depression, the inflation and lost decade of 1970′s and now this disaster. Three Strikes and you are out at the old ballgame.

  32. Mike/Liverpool

    Mean while on planet Earth……….

  33. Re: the stolen? bonds. I don’t want to annoy anybody by pasting such a large clip but it is interesting imho:-

    According to these reports, Obama became “enraged” when Calderon was discovered this past week to have joined the Bush Family International Drug Cartel in an attempt, with the backing of failed Japanese Prime Minster, and World War II British Soldier slave owning family, Taro Aso, to break the Vatican’s pledge to back the new US President in his audacious plan to destroy the stranglehold that the Rothschild Banking Family has long held over his Nation, and its people, in a plot discovered when Italian police, acting upon information supplied to them by the CIA, interdicted the agents bringing to the Vatican over $134 Billion in bribe money, and as we can read as reported by Italy’s Il Giornale News Service, and which says:

    “Two Japanese nationals were detained by Italian financial police after trying to enter Switzerland with $134 billion worth of undeclared U.S. bonds, mostly Treasury bonds.

    The Japanese consulate general in Milan confirmed that the detention had taken place and said it was trying to confirm with Italian authorities whether the two were indeed Japanese nationals and their identities.

    According to the report, two unidentified Japanese in their 50s concealed the bonds, including 249 U.S. Treasury bonds each worth $500 million, in a suitcase with a false bottom that was searched by the Italian authorities when they were in Chiasso, at the border with Switzerland, about 50 kilometers north of Milan.”

    Even more disturbing, and as we had previously reported on in our April 25 report “Mexican Drug Cartel Linked With al Qaeda Unleashes Pandemic”, the factions in the United States backing Obama have reported to the FSB that Obama now has in his possession “conclusive proof” that Calderon acted in “full knowing of its catastrophic Global consequences” with the Bush Family International Drug Cartel in their unleashing upon our planet what the World Health Organization reported yesterday is the first 21st Century Flu Pandemic, that Russian medical experts state has the capability to claim over 2 billion lives within the next year.

    Important to understand, and as we had reported on in our June 11 report “Obama Orders “Total Takedown” Of US Federal Reserve Bank”, Obama’s “grand Plan” to save his Nation rests with his ability to re-implement President John F. Kennedy’s January 4, 1963, Executive Order No. 11110 that gives the President of the United States the authority to issue what are called US Notes to replace the currency now being used by the Americans which are called Federal Reserve Notes, and which, if he is successful, would leave the only debt being owed by the US and its citizens the interest due to the Rothschild’s private bank, The Federal Reserve.

    Standing against Obama, however, are not only Mexico’s President Calderon, but the entire “hidden government” of the United States that their 28th President, Woodrow Wilson warned his citizens about by saying:

    “Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men’s views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the U.S., in the field of commerce and manufacturing, are afraid of somebody, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it.”

  34. Just found a clip from an article re: the US dollar and why it hasn’t collapsed. Don’t know if anybody agrees with this but thought it was interesting:-

    The secrets of the US dollar and the new currency

    A lot of veterans in the financial industry are puzzled by why the US dollar does not collapse. There are some esoteric secrets to the dollar that explain this. First of all dollars are created at several locations around the world. All the dollars have a code number on them and, depending on the code, some are accepted as international currency and some are not. Over 70% of all the dollars ever created are held by non-Americans. Those people do not want their hard earned dollars to be devalued. For that reason, the countries of the world have stopped accepting all US dollars printed by the Federal Reserve Board since September 11th of 2008. That is why there is no hyper-inflation and the dollar has not collapsed despite the Feds printing out over 13 trillion dollars since September 2008.

    No matter how much President Obama and the Feds say no to a new international currency controlled by the IMF, they are powerless to do anything about it. The Feds bought themselves a bit more time this week by cancelling their missile defense in the Czech republic and selling two air-craft carriers (to the Chinese?). However, no matter how much they try to buy time, the Fed has de facto lost the right to print a reserve currency.

    Just found another clip re: gold. If this is true I wonder what it will mean vis a vis the price of gold:-

    The financial elite have been divided between gold and paper factions

    Apparently there has long existed a big schism amongst the financial elite. The group around the Rothschilds who began creating fiat money (out of thin air) were able to accumulate enormous wealth. To keep themselves in power, they prevented certain parties (for example the Thai royal family) from selling their vast physical gold holdings. This created what is known as “black gold” that is real but does not have the stamp from a “recognized refinery” that allows it to become part of the international financial system. The story we have all heard about “all the gold that was ever mined since the dawn of civilization would fit in an Olympic sized swimming pool” is apparently a lie. Some of the numbers I have been hearing are astronomical and I have also been shown pictures of what appear to be vast amounts of gold. The holders of this gold are pushing for a new gold-backed international financial system. Personally, I think money should be backed by a basket of real things (like grain). However, it is a pretty safe bet the “black gold” will be allowed into the financial system and that precious metals would form a vital part of any basket of commodities.

  35. Your selection of links needs to be improved.
    We know the IMF is in direct collusion with the people controlling the money supply and deliberately doing a floor by floor demolition of the global economy for “currency rebirth” which they (along with the entire conglomerate) will be at the helm.
    We Know that other countries are diversifying.
    We know that the UK is in the same floor by floor demolition.
    Japan being worst over is complete propoganda bull.
    and Circle drops are made by guys that have nothing better to do.
    Put up some links from truth researching sites such as Alex Jones sites. Ones that have some pertinent information to assist us all better in connecting the dots of truth about what is truly going on.
    EG…. recent articles and interviews on how the IMF is aggressively loaning to all nations of the world …. knowing full well they will be pulling the plug on the dollar and other currencies resulting in default to have these countries by the b___s to force them all into the new global currency etc..

  36. Richard@lattitude30N

    @Stacy: Atta girl Stacy….always new beginnings!!! I call it a paradigm shift and a need to rewire the human nervous system that we all looking for..obviously as the late George Carlin pointed out so eloquently: “It’s a club…and WE aren’t in it”….so any assocoation with that particular matrix that has brought us to this moment in their hedonistic “culture” needs a 180 degree return to “civilization”…see the following segments of this Alex Jones interview w/ David Icke..yeh.. I know… that David Icke…But….

    http://www.infowars.com/david-icke-on-the-alex-jones-show/

    indulge me….I find that as a former paid attendee to WOODSTOCK-the concert and gathering held in 1969; and having watched as the next up and coming generation(s) of our youth has spawned a revitalized version of that ‘cracking of the cosmic egg’…it is clear that today as before, a small minority are awake and motivated for change—not recovery–but renewal!!!( the Harmony Festival that just ended in Santa Rosa,CA seems to be that sort of gathering). Glad that Stacy was clear about that for her own point of view on the crop circles…..and yes they are interesting phenomena…Also throughout modern history the utopian communities have segregated themselves from the mainstream for quite some time…mostly on religeous grounds…but I an appreciate that…”Render unto Caesar that is Caesars”….enuf…Richard@lattitude30N

  37. I don’t know what’sw going on with the Telegraph at the moment. Did any of you see the articles they ran on Blackwater? It was a series of images placed in their culture section and basically it showed London after a massive bomb with Big Ben and Buckingham Palace having been shelled and barely standing. Also similar images across America and then finally recognition that the North American Union were responsible for the carnage even though the UK military thought they were working on the same side. According to this piece in the Telegraph we were all being misled by the North Amercian Union, that in fact they are the enemy, I guess having been taken over by other powers. I wish I could find it because it’s worth looking at if only for the the fact that it is highly unusual for a mainstream newspaper to print this sort of thing – it was chilling.
    Then we had the MP’s expenses faisco and other stories. This newspaper is acting out of character in my view, I wonder why.

  38. @ugh just ugh,….everything seems to be going as planned as far as I can make out. (Has bin since I was born) what’s new!

  39. @Ugh_just_Ugh .. “Cash to be replaced by microchips”

    Orwellian indeed !
    … and what about the 5 Billion “poor” on this planet ?
    I think those banksters are having a wet dream !

    @Mother Earth .. LOL – of course , the USSA !
    ;-)

  40. Nancy S, Huntington Bch, CA

    Admiral Abramovich launches his £300million mega-yachtski: The world’s biggest (and it even has its own submarine. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1192640/Admiral-Abramovich-launches-300million-mega-yachtski-The-worlds-biggest-submarine.html

  41. @phil which country is trying to destroy faith in the dollar? I thought tha was the US ;-) Or should we say the IO-US?

  42. Ugh_just_Ugh

    Cash to be replaced by microchips

    http://www.news.com.au/technology/story/0,28348,25637102-5014239,00.html

    From an astute waitress in the comments section:
    …A cashless society is only good for the people in charge of the “money”.

  43. @Ugh_just_Ugh

    Good article .. Thx.

    … ” The larger story at hand is, who are the players (nations) involved, and what was the intention of this likely counterfeiting operation? Maybe the future will reveal the answers to these questions. But maybe not. ” …

    Yes , that is the question … which nation was trying to destroy faith in the US$ ?

  44. Mr Supergeek

    @stacy

    INTERPRETATIONS?????…Stacy if you are seeing things the same way as guardian or MSM ( should we be worried ) maybe you need a break after all tweaking the headlines 24/7 is hard work…..
    From my own experience staying tweaked enuff to understand all this day to day confusion is only possible with the help of you and Max this site and your amazing shows etc…..I’m sure I speak for pretty much all who use the site when I say …..

    MAX AND STACY WE LOVE YA’LL….

    ps And we appreciate ALL the hard work……

  45. Fed buys $6.45 billion in Treasury’s

    Source: MarketWatch

  46. (Puts down lukewarm coffee, reaches down and finds wobbly lever, pulls wobbly lever and gets old recliner to shimmy upright so that left hand can reach over the desk detritus and find keyboard hidden amongst the wadded up construction reciepts for a home project I’ve been working on… Takes said keyboard- hoping the cord won’t pull and knock over lukewarm coffee, which is now hidden precariously amongst the desk detritus- and places squarely on lap. Takes hands made of meat (ever try typing with ten penises?) and begins to conform to rigid new standards set by the loverly Stacy…)

    Interesting collection of links by financial Armageddon–

    http://www.financialarmageddon.com/2009/06/lots-of-people-didnt-get-the-memo.html

  47. mike from boston

    @Mother Earth

    Fine with me, but why is he using ABC and not purchasing the airtime with DNC funds as indicated? Using a mainstream media outlet as a bullhorn is a dicey in my opinion and could backfire. “Follow the money” as Max would say…. What does ABC have to gain from this?

  48. @Oldie …. “JPM Derivatives Monster Grows”

    Just a reminder of how big JPM’s derivatives were in 2002 !
    http://www.zealllc.com/2002/jpmgrows.htm

    … just in case anyone has NOT yet read this yet !

    PS: He wrote a few updated articles .. and some earlier ones.
    FWIW

  49. total control of how we eat,..think,..drink,..work,..play,..live,…sounds good for a change!
    (I’ll be able to get some sleep time),..maybe.

  50. @mike from boston

    We are so used to thinking the public will sway with anything we offer through the media that there is panic when the news does not faign that both sides of the argument are equal in merit. They aren’t and I think it is healthy that one side gets all the time people care to watch to explain their view. Nothing wrong with that at oall imho. People Chose Obama for his views, now he apparently bought time to flesh them out. The mental imbalance it leaves in the viewers minds may lead to thought!!

  51. It seems the foreign comments ‘The dollar is sound’ have a meaning similar to ‘Dream on suckers!’..

    Perhaps Max and Stacey could report from different terrasses as they make a summer tip around France: ‘Live from Versailles hall of mirrors… Or in the museum where they keep the last guillotine..or Max Keiser: on the Edge looking suspiciously like a terras’ ;-)

  52. ROFL, what a wierd article from the Torygraph on crop circles. Nice design though. I was born in Devizes; got a few first and second cousins up Yatesbury way; farmer types, stonewall builders and that type of yokel. I wonder if they are still charging people to go into their fields to see these crop circles? They do get up to some stunts when they have a couple of pint o’ 6x in ‘em those Wiltshire lads.

    @Mike2liverpool – got my pension in BRIC – hope you’re right. Gr8 link, BTW, those figures are shocking.

    @stacy – yep right to have some fun, it’s all too depressing. Let’s hope for a new begining.

  53. @ZeroHedge … “suggests reading this ”

    http://zerohedge.blogspot.com/

    The aricle is here … and repeats what Stacy said in this thread earlier :

    http://english.caijing.com.cn/2009-06-09/110180019.html

    … “The world is setting up for a big crash, again. Since the last bubble burst, governments around the world have not been focusing on reforms. They are trying to pump a new bubble to solve existing problems. Before inflation appears, this strategy works. As inflation expectation rises, its effectiveness is threatened. When inflation appears in 2010, another crash will come.” …

  54. I like the crop circle photos, we know its humans that make it but still it allows the imagination to wander freely. I think the idea of just having simplistic tools and a good brain can produce something beautiful on a large scale, shows us that we still can create something out of nothing.

    Hmm, Glen Beck picks up on the story of those $134.5 billion bonds seized in Italy. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=1c5_1245121464

    Also, Michael Moore gives a little teaser for his upcoming film, I kind of liked it hehe. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOKlrn7QPLQ

  55. Stacy, I could. It means I have to put down my coffee and pick up my keyboard.

    I suppose since you asked real nice and all…

    (I’m usually enjoying my reading while I pass these along…)

  56. @Scott from Oregon – when you post a link, can you also post a description of what the link goes to? thanks! the europac link doesn’t work

  57. @ME … “It worries me people think it is all a game”

    No … but I prefer to have a bit of fun rather than getting too depressed !

    You have to admit that those Crop Circles are pretty amazing though !

  58. @mike I agree, do you think the US will deflate or explode as they push it over the edge?

    @stacey Mabey you can make your own crop circles to cheer youself up ‘Its going to be OK!!’, and don’t forget: you are in Paris!

  59. what kind of a new beginning do we want? not the oligarchs’ new beginning but joe bag of donuts’ new beginning. Fundamentally, the masses are against change– radical change, not “Obama’s gonna save us” wild rhetoric nonsense. And what kind of new beginning will we be aloud have? joe bag of donuts doesn’t control the system now, what makes anyone believe he will control the system in the future?

    Thinking of the documentary ‘A Century Of Self’, there is a constant battle between ideologies– some believe that the public are incapable of making the right decisions for their own futures. Some believe the masses must be ruled. We’re seeing it coming emerge from the shadows again in this time in history– our new beginning could very well be the end of individual thought and freedom and a return to feudalism and the fear driven society.

    Other than that, morning y’all!

  60. Mike2liverpool

    Mother
    I think BRIC,s are lining up to take control, remember they do it bit by bit.
    Mike

  61. The IMF is in on the game. This is like Greenspan saying ‘We went overboard on lending’. Pointing something out usually implies it is not your responsibility, so one of the memes to be injected into the discourse is the IMF pointing out hard times are ahead..

    It may be time for US politicians to start pitching their budget requirements in Bejijng. Isn’t it crazy China is not ‘in charge’ of operations already.. They should set the requirements, like the IMF did with Japan..

    It worries me people think it is all a game, the Telegraph seriously talking about crop circles is just not fun to me. Look at the way nuclear war is discussed..the only reference people have for nuclear warfare is with the comfortable chairs of the movie theater.

  62. @Stacey … ” We don’t want recovery we want a new beginning.”

    You speak my language … well said !

  63. @Phil – yes I get depressed by it. That’s why I reported the crop circle story! The positive I read in the story is that they mention an ‘end’ and I think ends are absolutely positive because ends are also new beginnings. When people talk of ‘recovery’ what they mean is that it all returns to how things were. We don’t need recovery we need an END to how things were. We don’t want recovery we want a new beginning. Something completely different to what we have done for the past couple hundred years.

  64. @Stacey … Question :

    Don’t you and Max ever get depressed talking all the time about the “human” corruption and malpractice on this planet ?
    Crop Circles are far more interesting and maybe a sign of hope ? … like, when the Aliens finally land, maybe they’ll hang-draw-and-quarter all the dishonest politicians for us !
    ;-)

  65. @Stacy .. ” crop circles”

    Whoever makes those circles is either one damn good artist … or an artistic Alien !

    Really makes you wonder .. how intricate they will get !

    PS:
    Remember that massive Seed-Bank they built up in Norway or somewhere ? … Now I really have to start wondering !
    ;-)