Max Keiser’s Savers vs Speculators

July 3rd, 2009 by stacyherbert

Stacy Summary: In light of Sweden’s negative interest rates, here is the original warning from Max Keiser on this war between savers and speculators!

Tags: max keiser · savers versus speculators34 Comments

34 responses so far ↓

Mike/Liverpool
Jul 3, 2009 at 6:57 am

http://renegadeeconomist.com/headline/renegade-economist-talkshow-july-3rd.html

Mike
MJ
Jul 3, 2009 at 7:05 am

@ Max and Stacy: At the bottom is a link to an incredible work of investigative journalism from DeepCapture.com.

In it is explained the relationship of various hedge funds, the mafia, and media outlets, particularly with reference to the practice of naked short selling. This piece is truly expansive. It is the most comprehensive investigation of this subject that I have read. While this is of obvious interest to Max Keiser readers who are trying to understand our current economic “controlled demolition”, the article also gives further evidence of foreknowledge regarding the attacks of 911.

http://www.deepcapture.com/the-story-of-deep-capture-by-mark-mitchell/
Fibon1123
Jul 3, 2009 at 7:19 am

Does 1930 = 2009 these charts seem to say so?

So what’s happening,these charts for me are a kin to looking back at the view when climbing a mountain. But were not were descending very predictably so far.

http://www.gold-eagle.com/editorials_01/seymour062001.html

This link backs the idea up just a little and amuses. Even less faith now in the so called experts mmmm? The Madness of it all!!!

http://bubblewrapped.org/pie.html

Now the SHOCKER!!
Look down the list and see just how similar the tracking is. It looks so accurate given everything in markets is kind of fractal in nature. I would be very pleased if I could predict things this well. Will it continue? The fundamentals seem as I understand it to be all in place, with an algorithmic electronic and debt derivative twist on top.

http://www.voxeu.org/index.php?q=node/3421
So 1930 = 2009 or is it better or worse?
Fibon1123
Jul 3, 2009 at 7:27 am

Not sure what’s happened to the comment posting? Seem to struggle with this one?

1930 = 2009

So what’s happening,these charts for me are a kin to looking back at the view when climbing a mountain. But were not were descending very predictably so far.

http://www.gold-eagle.com/editorials_01/seymour062001.html

This link backs the idea up just a little and amuses. Even less faith now in the so called experts mmmm? The Madness of it all!!!

http://bubblewrapped.org/pie.html

Now the SHOCKER!!
Look down the list and see just how similar the tracking is. It looks so accurate given everything in markets is kind of fractal in nature. I would be very pleased if I could predict things this well. Will it continue? The fundamentals seem as I understand it to be all in place, with an algorithmic electronic and debt derivative twist on top.

http://www.voxeu.org/index.php?q=node/3421

What do you think? Does 1930 = 2009 or is it better or worse?
Danny
Jul 3, 2009 at 7:28 am

Big list of important links by Jenna Orkin and Mike Ruppert
http://www.mikeruppert.blogspot.com/

This is my personal favourite though. “America!! F**k yeahhhh!! Comin’ along to save the motherf**kin’ day yeahhh!!….

CIA has Distributed 400 Million Dollars Inside Iran to Evoke a Revolution
http://pakalert.wordpress.com/2009/06/18/cia-has-distributed-400-million-dollars-inside-iran-to-evoke-a-revolution/
Fibon1123
Jul 3, 2009 at 7:35 am

@ Mike thats cool
Fibon1123
Jul 3, 2009 at 7:43 am

Have you seen this?
http://www.gold-eagle.com/editorials_01/seymour062001.html
Fibon1123
Jul 3, 2009 at 7:45 am

If you like that then this will back it up nicely
http://bubblewrapped.org/pie.html
Fibon1123
Jul 3, 2009 at 7:47 am

And finally the Shocker, full of meaning this one. Take a look how close the 30′s compare with today. Incredible !

http://www.voxeu.org/index.php?q=node/3421

I had trouble posting I wanted to do them in one post?
Mary Kapadia
Jul 3, 2009 at 7:49 am

Attaching Goldmanballs clip from Rolling Stones:
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/28816321/the_great_american_bubble_machine/print#
Nick, Dublin
Jul 3, 2009 at 7:53 am

La Defense always looks amazing.
Mini US
Jul 3, 2009 at 8:03 am

Thats a great video Max.
This should be taught at schools.
Schools should teach about the truth and not pretend history, for example. This is real life and concerns everybody.

@Mike
Thanks for the renegade piece too Mike.
So many people in Aust saying prices won’t go down because of high demand. At the moment Govt stimulus is fuelling the housing market, esp for first home buyers.

Exactly what Max is saying, govt stimuli + Low interest rates and real estate agents threatening people that this will never happen again so you’d better get into the market.
It hurts to see the lemmings jump.
This is the scenario….
Govt stimulus = $14K/$21K
House prices rising at lower end of market by $50K, bigger loans, more debt.
People see low rates and free money. How could you resist that?
Crazy.
Gilgamesh Andersson
Jul 3, 2009 at 8:04 am

Hello, I don’t know a lot about economics, but I’m a swede and last I looked the interest lay at +0.25 not -0.25. I feel like an idiot asking, but why can’t I read about the -0.25 cut in my swedish news?
Mini US
Jul 3, 2009 at 8:10 am

Hey, but in Australia you get $5,000 for having a baby.
Taxpayers are subsidising other peoples lifestyle.
Mike/Liverpool
Jul 3, 2009 at 8:16 am

I Hate

I hate CB
I Hate Neo-lib Goverments
I hate the FED
I Hate Goldsacs
I hate J P Morgan
…………………………And i hate you people

But most of all i hate myself

Oh Dead where thy sting?

Mike
anders brile
Jul 3, 2009 at 8:28 am

Hi Stacy. I belive the rates where droped from 0.50 to 0.25.

http://www.riksbank.com/

The Riksbank has a fun story about it how it came to be in 1600th somthing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholms_Banco
MJ
Jul 3, 2009 at 8:36 am

Sorry about posting twice on the same subject; I did not think that my first one was sent properly.
John Tonta
Jul 3, 2009 at 8:51 am

hi Stacey, I was wondering if you’d seen this guy: http://thearchdruidreport.blogspot.com/2009/07/where-economics-fails.html . I’d be interested to hear what you think about the limits of growth. I guess you wouldn’t disagree much with his post about externalities, but he frames it in wider historical perspectives. Oh and more beards too I guess.
frances snoot
Jul 3, 2009 at 8:55 am

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/China_Business/KG02Cb01.html
Henry Lu reveals his Chinese identity!
frances snoot
Jul 3, 2009 at 8:57 am

oops, Liu
Brandon
Jul 3, 2009 at 9:04 am

Savers are always punished for speculators. Greenspan with 1% interest rates made you become a speculator because you got no return on your money. We need a world that punishes these people with much higher interest rates. We also need a world without the CFR, David Rockfeller and Trilateral too, plus a world without central bankers.
Youri Carma
Jul 3, 2009 at 9:17 am

Much better sound than last one – good ol stuff!
M
Jul 3, 2009 at 9:29 am

Go Max Go Max Go Max!

When am I going to see Max&Stacy in MSM?
Youri Carma
Jul 3, 2009 at 10:03 am

First part very good. Second part sucked. You know why.
kim jong il
Jul 3, 2009 at 10:10 am

good stuff fibon. thanks,kim
Dedo
Jul 3, 2009 at 10:16 am

@Sharon,…..Off topic, but have you seen the G. Edward Griffin vid’ ,.. world without cancer ?
take a peek http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4312930190281243507
sharon
Jul 3, 2009 at 12:26 pm

@ Dedo,
Thanks very much for that link. I was recently made aware of B17 and bought some apricot kernals, I think there’s alot to this. The video on the link you provided is very interesting though, just goes to show you there’s probably a cure for everything. I appreciate you digging it out for me….cheers.
Tofu Charlie
Jul 3, 2009 at 12:51 pm

Nice vid. High production values. Shiny suit.
pg
Jul 3, 2009 at 2:44 pm

that was execelent. pg
Keith
Jul 3, 2009 at 3:13 pm

I’m in Canada. Given all the turmoil, what kind of mortgage should I sign up for?
5 year closed variable at 2.85 (.60 over canada’s prime)
5 year fixed ata 4.35
10 year fixed at 5.4?

The rates in Japan remained low for 10 years. Canada tends to be influenced by US rates, although our banks are apparently more stable.
Fibon1123
Jul 3, 2009 at 3:13 pm

Gasification on here as things are getting late I thought I WOOD include this its actually very interesting way of geting energy out of wood through pyrolysis.

http://www.blinkx.com/video/gasification-101-learn-the-basics-of-wood-gasification/L5mi5gEJ_zXqbbqPVZdKnA

I just tried to submit but it did not work hope it doesn’t appear twice
Giuseppe Bagodonutti
Jul 3, 2009 at 4:49 pm

@ Keith

I think the better question is,
WHAT CAN YOU AFFORD???
if you can afford the 10 year,
then do that…

Do you remember what the interest rates in 1982 were like?
That is the potential scenario we’re looking at …
(this comparison to 1930′s America that keeps getting touted is somewhat illogical considering the GREAT differences socially, economically and politically)

Also, is it your intention to FLIP this house for profit?
then you might as well keep renting…
and wait another year (depending what part of Canada you are in…
Grant in oz
Jul 3, 2009 at 5:38 pm

This is a great video. It more or less sums up the situation in 12 minutes.

@mini US,
the first buyers stimulus package is adding more than $50k it’s closer to $100k as it increases the leverage the buyers have to borrow more, and banks are still lending 100% of the mortgage, I know some one that just did that with cba.
I thought the banks stopped doing this. CRAZY.
Neo-Fuedal Casino Gulag Plantation Economy Minion
Jul 5, 2009 at 4:10 pm

This is a deliberate, systematic, studied crash of the system and subsequent looting of it by Wall Street’s most powerful interests, nothing more. Like the Great Depression, where millions lived in misery as the rich got much, much richer, the globe is experiencing a massive value drain so that a few interests on Wall Street can build dynastic wealth in a few short years.

I could go on, and cite many other contributing deliberate manipulations. I won’t bother. You probably know most of them.

But the truth is that we are witnessing a nation whose policy is being run so special interests can profit at unprecedented levels while the standard of living of the populace inevitably declines to accommodate the transfer of wealth. It is completely deliberate, and not a bit of it is accidental. The smartest guys in the financial world didn’t all just get stupid and blow it – that’s a facile cover story being propagated by the captured press. They knew exactly what they were doing, they crashed the system to profit at levels it would normally take 50 years of stability to see, and they could give a rat’s ass whether you work at Burger King during your retirement as a result.

They win. You lose.