Stacy Summary: Part of my data collection / experiment started two weeks ago keeping track of how the news is presented by the BBC and other media outlets – though mostly BBC who insist at every turn that they are uniquely unbiased. Notice that there is no mention of the protests and subsequent clashes in Italy yesterday. Nor, in fact, did any Western media outlet other than Associated Press. AFP, Aljazeera and PressTV covered the story. Check it out on google. BBC did cover possible Abba reunion in September.
Another story the BBC did not report on was the Honduran airport over run by protesters demanding the return of their elected president. Interestingly, this Honduran airport story was covered by the MSM in the US, but not by the Social Media Networks like Twitter where only the intelligence services have the fire power to create the required twam.
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Stacy
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article6638323.ece
Mike
what’s a twam?
or, are you using it in the definition of the urban dictionary
1. twam 5 thumbs up love it hate it
A)Another word for gettin’ some
B)Pussy
Gettin head and getting that twam
pussy tang slit box puss
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=twam
@maxkeiser – twam is twitter spam in the stacy dictionary
I prefer my DICtionary when talking about your twam.
@maxkeiser – and congratulations on getting that comment past the akismet spam guard!
@ stacy,
Yep, that’d be about right. This has been going on for decades, remember the reporting on Tiananmen Square? Apparantly thousands were killed in Tiananmen Square yet I challenge you to find one piece of solid evidence supporting that, a picture maybe of thousands dead in the square? You won’t find it coz it never happened. Yes, there were protests but where are the dead bodies? Not in the square that’s for sure.
No wonder bankers want to work for the CIA
Just heard, the Bank of England to PRINt ANOTHER £25 Billion………..thats on top of the £125 Billion+ already printed………..but they say thats it……….for awhile..ish.
Mike
stacey, great job. Would be awsome for you guys to figure out some sort of _quantitative_ way to put numbers on this kind of media BS. I bet there ar e a lot of smart, unemployed CS majors that would love to swarm that. All they need is a peerless leader. Someone like you Stacey.
-Pervy
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http://www.twitter.com/maxkeiser
http://www.twitter.com/piratemyfilm
@Stacy Maybe those Italian clashes are so intense because of that recent clawback by some banks that where sold ‘counterfeit bonds’ by the US. It would be interesting to me to know if the protesters where motivated by a broader antipathy against the US..
The green revolution has managed to split the clergy in Iran http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8134904.stm
@max I’m curious to know what you think of those ideas regarding speaking directly to duped credit card debt holders in order to rally support for Karmabanque. There will be other opportunities no doubt..
@PervySage – would love help! I am interested in two areas – one Twitter and how it is used to push MSM news and opinion. On this, I have been tirelessly collecting video screen capture for the past two weeks of the real Twitter Trending Topics. I have used Twitscoop.com and left it running for hours and even days on end comparing searches between Michael Jackson and #iranelection and then with other big topics that come up and it is very clear that #iranelection is being intentionally kept on the list. You can go to twitscoop and it gives you the graph for the past three days and you can see there clearly that it is not trending so high that it would have remained CONSTANTLY every single day, every single hour on the top ten topics since June 13. It dropped off once or twice but only for about 10 minutes at most. I’m interested in trying to collect this data from as many sources. It’s just data right now and I don’t know what it means or why it is being kept there. Eventually I will contact the owners of Twitter or try to and see how they maintain that list and ask whether or not they were asked to keep that on the list by the state department.
If anyone else wants to use screen capture or any other way of capturing data on real streams on Twitter (only because this is now being used by the MSM as a way to determine what to report on and it is clearly forming opinion as you can see many twitterers comment on what is in the trending topics.
On the MSM, I am comparing, again, with screen capture, how they respond to protests by other people. Whether middle class protesters are treated differently to peasant protesters – like those in Honduras and Peru. Or when middle class – if they protest against US military base or against globalization how they are painted (taking images and evidence of the words the BBC uses to describe the various protesters);
I have so much bloody footage now though and will have to start assembling into a film . . . maybe I will raise the financing on PirateMyFilm?? Anybody up for getitng in on my action?
I just cant shake this idea of a karmabanque-esque effort to call BS on the MSM. How could this be carried out in a decentralized p2p way to make it robust against intervention by the oligarchy? Maybe something like tor? Hmmmm… very interested suddenly.
Stacey,
These things you are doing are super, and I’m not sure what can be done with what you have in hand. I’m just wondering about the next step. Its clear that joe six pack and pablo two tequilas and pasquale one pernod are going to have to get off their butts and be the alternative media. The corporate media is just totally compromized, no question. So, how to provide a platform to agregate, verify and concentrate all that citezen reporting from all over the world? It has tohave a mechanism for multiple sourcing. It has to be robust against twam, yet provide anonymity. Need to get some of these swedish and german
pirates involved, no doubt.
I really think you’ve taken the first step here towards something like that, if you know it or not. You certainly have your finger on a very important media signature of disinformation. Interesting times for sure, call for interesting people. You guys are doing a great job.
-Pervy
@Stacy
getTITing on your action only If you bring that white leather jacket….
@stacy I could probably help you in capturing twam (I use a grabbing algorithm to get the kitco data). I could create a statistics tool capturing all media frontpages and counting the ocurrences of specific topics..
@PervySage – thanks; yes, I think there needs to be a more robust Twitter like platform; I wouldn’t know how to begin weeding out the disinfo and intelligence services that plug away at them
I have to admit I fell for the stream for the first 24 hours until Robert Fisk wrote that piece from the ground and I hadn’t one single correction in the tweet stream nor on Huffpo or Andrew Sullivan; so I got a little curious and looked at some of the twitterers RT the claims that Fisk had debunked and at least 50% of them were obviously fake and had been active only since the election . . . so I started to think about how this perception push could be applied to various other things . . . either direction; so for whatever reason, Michael Jackson was actually not that much of a trending topic despite having real huge numbers even still now . . . MJ’s was ranked highly for awhile though Michael Jackson references were about 100 x the rate of people referring to MJ
Don’t know what it means yet, but clearly the data disagrees with their list
Hey
Who Punched “Tony”?
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Politics/Tony-Blair-Black-Eye-Former-PM-Keeps-Mum-About-What-Caused-His-Mystery-Shiner/Article/200907115328836?lpos=Politics_News_Your_Way_Region_5&lid=NewsYourWay_ARTICLE_15328836_Tony_Blair_Black_Eye%3A_Former_PM_Keeps_Mum_About_What_Caused_His_Mystery_Shiner
Was that you Stacy?
Mike
@M & S The P.H.A.T.W.A. episode of the stimulator channel (the one with the tent city dweller video) shows you can easily start and operate a radio station in the US without a license..
@Mother Earth – that would be cool! Let me think about how best to structure something. All comments welcome!
@stacy Ok. Any readble website (not flash) can be analyzed and tracked, including tweetstreams..
Stacey,
Your point about recent twitters is extremely important. In my thoughts, it would seem that there would have to be statistics related to a sources veracity, and statistics related to multiple sources. At some point two less reputable sources are statistically more significant than one reliable one. BUT, the assymptote that you experienced, with so many new tweets would have to be accounted for. This is certainly an interesting problem in math and cs. I bet Richard Stallman has something to say about that! You guys should have him on anyway.
-PS
The cencorship of western MSM is heavier in my opinion than in China. The people of China are more or less aware of what is not allowed. We “in the west” are said to be free but yet we are given false and misleading information and not mention that what we say or do on the Internet is more and more under surveillance.
Freedom is only an illusion in the west.
This kind of stuff is not new.
Watching the media turn Ron Paul into a “crazy” and his followers into “kooks” was a real eye opener for me.
I loved it when Ron Paulites chased Sean Hannity down the street calling him all sorts of obscenities…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNZS9ZuZcrg
Another big miss by the MSM was the Cynthia McKinney kidnapping by Israel. That was decidedly NOT covered by anyone except Alex Jones as near as I can tell. A 6-term congress woman is held for 3 days and not a peep from the obama admin?? WTF?!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ah1EbIOdAZE
Amen…
Great Twiddlin Twam, Batman….
The Italians are pissed off with the American Bases…
And it’s in the land of “mia famiglia” no less…
Aviano airbase was originally THE POINT for american operations,
but since they had problems in the past with threats from “Brigate Rosso” (a quasi-terrorist group in italy),
and supposedly have NUKES stored there,
I’m assuming this move to expand the base in Vicenza is just a way to “hedge” their bets in the event of some serious uprising…
Perhaps the reason the Ass-Munching Turd-Tokers (i.e. MSM) aren’t covering this story is to prevent the KNOWLEDGE of the base expansion from spreading TOO FAR around the globe…
And another thing…
The American soldiers that are stationed there (at least around Aviano) have a tendency to wreak drunken havoc in the bars around the towns situated near their bases…
So I can understand why the Italians DON’T WANT MORE
“american problems” in the country…
Berlusconi is such a douche-bag… I wish he would just bend-over and croak while getting stuffed with Obama’s Dildo of Corruption… that would solve SOME problems anyway…
Check this vid out…
Originally, you’d think OBAMA didn’t have respect for “il Douche”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiYppEt5QSY
And yet now, they are buddies?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cA0vfjV2BIk
hypocritical “MULATTO”
Who is pulling Obama’s strings?
A quote on living within Dictator’s Media
During the 1970s, I filmed secretly in Czechoslovakia, then a Stalinist dictatorship. The dissident novelist Zdenek Urbánek told me, “In one respect, we are more fortunate than you in the west. We believe nothing of what we read in the newspapers and watch on television, nothing of the official truth. Unlike you, we have learned to read between the lines, because real truth is always subversive.” John Pilger
I want better propaganda on the BBC and other channels they are not worth watching never mind the licence fee. I once complained to the BBC and said I was sick of the propaganda, the woman I was put through to said that where ever you go you will get propaganda as if that justified it.
The programs are so bad and poor now the are excruciating to watch. I am not talking about any topic but all of them. There is nothing but crap.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMeecwGePL8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pajKfN9VP8&feature=related
I left my £1500 TV in my house when I sold it, it was not worth picking it up, it was quite heavy lol. I don’t plan to buy another, but a house one day. I’m so glad im not loosing money of it any more. -0.7% last month and they call that a rise lol we have a few years of continuous falls yet another 40% and the over shoot.
@GB
Maybe Dennis Hopper had a better clue…..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pm_LbJTvTWA
re media bias in the uk
have a look at http://www.medialens.org
this is a great site that has been analyzing the media in the uk for the past 5 years or so. lots to say about the bbc, & the broad sheets. worth a look
cheers
@Fat Freddy from Oregon…
BWAHAHAHahahaha…
“So what did you order?”
“A scone”
BITCH-SLAP!!!!
Super Jesus to the rescue….
@Mr.Supergeek
I was JUST thinking about that clip.. thanx for posting it…
There is truth to it…
The Italians (at least the southerners) “i terroni”, are “Mulatti”…
stacy,
twam? I think there’s another term in use:
FT Alphville: Twitter for those dirty, alpha-seeking strategies
Posted by Gwen Robinson on Jun 24 08:52.
“Hedge fund managers are turning to Twitter in an attempt to steal a march on their rivals, or so The Daily Telegraph tells us on Wednesday.
“That’s very interesting, because several hedge fund managers we spoke to dismissed the idea variously as “all twatter” and “rubbish” – not least because Twitter has carved a reputation more for unfounded speculation and even sensational disinformation …”
I think the derivation is fairly obvious (twitter/chatter/tw…).
The Telegraph were publicising a press release from an interesting company on the social networking scene, Streambase, who specialise in Complex Event Processing (CEP), which is the high-tech version of your twitter-monitoring:
“Streambase — whose client base includes Royal Bank of Canada and London-based hedge fund BlueCrest Capital Management — was commissioned to develop the software by several “unnamed” clients.
“The company, whose investors include Inqtel, Central Intelligence Agency’s venture capital arm, claims it could give traders an edge when deciding whether to trade on breaking news, like terrorist attacks and natural disasters, rather than waiting for the information to be filtered through providers like Reuters Thomson or Bloomberg…”
The FT Alphaville post links to the Streambase CEO’s blog, giving an indication of how twitterers are actually viewed in the data mining scheme of things:
Trading on Twitter: Opportunity, Danger, or Folly?
“…Todd C. Mirabella, chief investment officer and principal of New York hedge fund QAT, says one of the uses he has found for Twitter is to help look at market volatility and compare it. “So how we get our information, that’s the trick. Twitter can give us information on retail ” [Tweeters] are the herd,” he says.”
The technology is advertised as two-way, allowing twatter to be generated too – useful for moving the herd and/or targeting selected users.
The CIA venture capital firm, In-Q-Tel are also involved in the background with the another major social networking site, Facebook:
Do you have Facebook? (youtube)
It puts social network sites’ insistence that ,a href=”http://www.downloadsquad.com/2009/06/14/facebook-goes-behind-your-back-to-present-your-profile-to-people/”>users grant access to all e-mail contacts and sign away all rights to privacy. It facilitates data-mining and network-profiling, not only by that site, but also any other client they might do business with.
Having gathered so much personal data from users, Facebook are now looking to leverage it, in a way that resembles Streambase’s data-mining the twitter-stream:
Time: Facebook’s Big Move Toward the AfterWeb
By Josh Quittner Monday, Apr. 27, 2009
“Facebook announced it was opening up the “stream” — the real-time feed of members’ status updates, wall posts and such — to outside developers. Developers can now create new programs that mashup and remix those core data, making the information more useful and fun for members.”
Maybe Streambase would be happy to share what their monitoring reveals about twitterers and news events in Iran, Honduras, and Colombia.
Optimism Opium versus Pessimism Porn
Gerald Celente
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Is8vxzE7v0g
… “Kids are going to graduate … doing what ?” …
BTW
China produces 400,000 Engineering Graduates PER YEAR.
They have far more Internet users than Germany.
FWIW
Meanwhile,
Someone, or some GROUP, keeps bombing Encana’s Natural Gas Pipe-lines in North-eastern BC…
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/story/2009/07/04/bc-pipeline-bombing-encana.html
It makes me wonder if this is some INSIDER event (i.e. false flag operation) to raise the price of Natural Gas….
After-all, it seems to work for the OIL industry…
An expatriate American in Honduras: La Gringa’s Blogicito
http://lagringasblogicito.blogspot.com/search/label/Honduran%20democratic%20crisis
As Hondurans brace for confrontation, Cardinal Oscar Rodriguez appeared on state television imploring Zelaya to stay abroad, warning of a bloodbath. Are OAS thugs having second thoughts about participating in a standoff on the Toncontin tarmac? Argentina’s President Cristina Fernandez said no other leaders would accompany Zelaya, contradicting an earlier statement from Zelaya that the presidents of Argentina and Ecuador and the leader of the Organization of American States would escort him back to power.
Here is an example of censorship where the President is let off the hook for failing to deliver the jobs promised through the stimulus. The name Obama is censored and instead, well as usual the scapegoat is Biden!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/05/biden-ignores-warnings-of_n_225888.html
How blatant can it get?
(Horrible article that claims we are in the fix we are because not ENOUGH money was spent by .gov!)
@random and sideways..
Here’s something I would consider essential culture for french incorporation..The singer also sang in dutch..
French radio used to have quota’s so the average frenchman would hear this music about 3 times a day
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOcDwYQPp0Y
and
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfqgFoIdeUE
@Giuseppe
More likely it’s a local resident with a grudge against EnCana. Search: oil well bomber Wiebo Ludwig.
Canada is chock full of eco-terrorist whackos of all shapes and sizes. Today you don’t have to look any further than Toronto’s city council.
http://www.thestar.com/article/660864
FYI –> Biden: Israel free to set own course on Iran
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090705/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_us_iran_israel_5
Thanks, Phil! not good is it…
@frances … ” Vice President Joe Biden signaled that the Obama administration would not stand in the way if Israel chose to attack Iran’s nuclear facilities ”
Getting back to Biden’s “I promise within 6 months” warning … is this it ? … or is he just trying to aggravate the situation to cause something to happen… to fulfill his “promise ?
Makes you wonder !
.. or maybe this was planned anyway ?
@13blackcats
Canadians are limp dicks. They have laws but don’t enforce them.
For example Tar Sands are very destructive to the environment, you can see effects from the outer space. Despite laws to make the Oil companies restore the tar sands pits mine toxic ponds etc, according to the National Geographic, only 0.4 square miles of land has been restored over the last 35 years. This despite extracting billions of dollars worth of tar and oil and shipping it south to the US for huge profits.
Obama says one thing; Biden contradicts it. What gives? The two men never talk?
And the quirky thing about the Biden article concerning the economy is that Summers and Romer weren’t mentioned. Is the “dream team” too sweet to touch? Or are the big boys saving them for future ammunition?
When is that date you mentioned the other day, Phil? Wasn’t it July? Lots of the Christian sites are mentioning July 11 as being a big one. I am going with the theory that dates never pan out. Maybe fear is the factor?
@Phil:
Republicans have been using this equation for years, cause it works: fear=control.
This time, though, I don’t feel so good about the whole thing.
@Phil
It would seem to me that MOST Geo-Political activities are staged…
in this case,
it’s like a Criminally Violent Thug (USA)
letting its violently disturbed pitbull (Israel)
wander the streets…
trying to egg on the other thugs (Iran, North Korea, etc)
and incite them to do something rash in retaliation…
I guess it is true,
only PSYCHOPATHS make good politicians…
(since the conscience aspect of the psyche is turned off)
Although,
this whole scenario could just be a red-herring to distract the Ass-munching Turd-Tokers from the other crap going on (i.e. the upcoming G8 circle-jerk, the consumerism crisis in USA, etc)
wars and rumours of wars…
hmmmm
@zmoore
Hang on a second…
the OIL that is shipped to the states is sold at a CUT-RATE thanks to NAFTA
there is little PROFIT being made there…
RE: the environmental damage…
Could you elaborate on that?
if you are referring to the great CO2 LIE, then that’s bunk…
if you are referring to the grotesque deformation of the land-mass and pollution of the BOW RIVER, then sure…
THAT is a problem…
is there some other “green-disaster” that is inferred?
@Guiseppi:
Excellent commentary. You should have a show! Wouldn’t we all prefer it to CNBC over here!!!
Who are the Ass-munching Turd-Tokers? Sounds like tag-team wrestling!
@Guiseppe:
The only complaint I have with your excellent commentary is that I’d switch these two:
it’s like a Criminally Violent Thug (USA)
letting its violently disturbed pitbull (Israel)
to this:
it’s like a Criminally Violent Thug (Israel)
letting its violently disturbed pitbull (USA)…
After all. We are bankrupt.