[OTE9] On the Edge with Max Keiser – 10 July 2009 – [UPDATED]

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  1. Richard@lattitude30N

    well done as usual…..somehow I seem to tune into PressTV live regularly………Dr. Hudson wasn’t eager to agree totally with your reasoning that the GS proprietary code “theft” was more than improper…The implications went past him somewhat….I see the depth of your analysis particularly after quoting the 34 year old AUSA who may have muffed the cause of action…Yes if others can use the code to manipulate the market…WHY DOES GS ALONE HAVE THAT ABILITY???? Goes along with last weeks statement from Dr. C. Paul Roberts when he said GS controls the Treasury…

  2. This video shows T Boone as yet another American psychopath = Oil man.

  3. Listening now. Good coverage on that T Boone fellow. He’s not as nice as he’s trying to make himself out to be with all those wind energy initiatives. Fucker. I’m sure you all recognize this little gem:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2bOug1d20c

    As usual Max brings up some great issues. Market manipulation, skimming, all the great stuff in this glorious new financial age. Ain’t this fun?

    What a world we’ve created. I hope you’re all having a great time, because this is the way things are going to be for quite a while. The rich haven’t just gotten richer. They’ve gotten ABSOLUTELY richer.

    Let’s face it. Goldman has learned one of the greatest rules in financial history. Don’t aspire to make 100% from one person. Aspire to make 1% from 100 people. Now multiply that by 70 trillion or so, maybe a little more, whatever, who knows? Much of this stuff is just counterfeit anyway, so who’s counting? Give it some imagination, and you’ll be close.

    If this were a game of poker, Goldman would be sitting across from you with 75% of the chips, going all-in over and over, and you’re sitting there holding a K6 off-suit watching the blinds move skyward. In other words, you’d be fucked.

    The 125% refinance mortgages are the government’s way of saying, “You’re fucked, and we all know it. But there’s always your kids. Now you can continue to live in your home, then just pass it on to them after you die.” How sweet.

    My hope is that I win the lottery. I know that doesn’t sound too feasible, but I still haven’t lost hope.

    Oh wait, I just lost hope. Scratch my last comment.

    But life is still good. The wife and I are off for some schezuan. Have a great weekend, everyone.

  4. Great show Max and Stacy.
    So much information and explanation – Love it.
    This Kramer guy manipulating the market – He is just one of them! Do you know how many Kramers there are out there?
    Not to mention all the market software followers just buying and selling what/when their software tells them to buy and sell.
    Since governments have turned Pensions and Superannuation over to private responsibility there is a fortnightly flow of $$$ into these funds. As one broker once said to me “The market can’t go down, this continual volume of money must go somewhere”.
    D’oh!

  5. Jim Cramer worked at Goldman

    Cramer obtained employment in 1984 as a stock broker in Goldman Sachs’ Sales & Trading department. Cramer’s success in this position led him to found his own hedge fund, Cramer & Co. (later Cramer, Berkowitz, & Co.) in 1987.

  6. @ Joe.
    Thanks for video Joe.
    T-Bone knows peak oil is here and “he ain’t gonna stand by and watch while no damn foreigner gets his profits”.
    As I have said previously on this forum….
    Nothing will be done about climate change until these guys realise they can make money out of it.
    Do you think T-Bone would have been peddling peddle power 10 years ago????

  7. Barnet Burns

    Great show, but why does that graphic that comes up occasionally read “On the Eadg”?. It was there last week also….As a currently practicing high school English teacher I have a distracting urge to get out my red pen.

  8. Johnny Dangereaux

    That was great. I miss the UFO style set from the BBC show, but I don’t miss the comedian you felt you had to have on.
    I think when it’s all over the quote from that Italian DA in NY will be the bell ringer!! At the bar after work these two guys were using all the latest words….algo….strategy….etc….if this week shows anything, it’s that the algos are imploding….get out your pencils and slide rules…it will be back to basics!

    I suggest you all look up Frederick Jackson Turner…..he basically said “as goes California, so goes the nation”….as we have seen, Cali ain’t too great….everybody else(in other states) thinks they are immune at this point…..just wait til we as a nation are bankrupt…..what then?
    Max you scrape the surface….I think you should have a guillotine as your show’s symbol….it will be the only “machine” that will get us out of this mess!
    Have a good weekend.
    Bon Chance

  9. Max this show is awesome. It’s wayyy better than the Oracle (that was ok too). Great guests great analysis, just a half hour of pure truth (atleast how you and others see it). Keep it up. I’m buying gold and silver like it’s going out of style right now and I’m just gonna forget I have it, I’m also buying some swiss franc and aussie dollar, trying to move out of the dollar. Euro Pacific will be my next call. Between Ron Paul, Peter Schiff and you I’ve learned alot, and I hope to study at the Mises institute soon enough, I’ve read so many books on Austrain theory I could probably run my own show lol. Good luck and keep up, you’re not going un-appreciated in the slightest. . .

  10. GOOD SHOW, YOU HIT ALOT OF INTERESTING TOPICS IN A SHORT PERIOD.

  11. Good Show!

  12. jon in montana

    good stuff. MOst folks I know already know the market has been manipulated for years. But they didn’t want to say anything other than i’m geting in on this to make a load of money.

    Greed is a powerful incentive. More money to buiy more influence.

    The problem now is. Its so manipulated. As they’ve said for eon’s. Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absollutely. And thats the problem we have now. Some folks have absolute power and their running the show.

  13. anything but green

    For the Global Warming, ,oops, Climate Change dupes:

    http://www.wiseupjournal.com/?cat=21

    The entire environment agenda is a trojan horse… let’s all save the planet… sounds good. Best to ask the right questions. You’ll find the same people running this show as the ones who dictated Karl Marx’s writings (he was just an editor).

  14. Karlmarxism

    I’d like to drop the name Charles Eisenstein whom wrote a book I am determined to purchase titled “The Ascent of Humanity”. He published it’s entirety for all to view and download for free on his website…

    http://www.ascentofhumanity.com/

    I am grateful Lynn Garry from Unwelcome Guests has been reading this to me. He uncovers and reveals the roots with a grand unified analysis I think even Dr. Hudson could appreciate. His arguments challenge and stand against some of the worlds greatest thinkers.

    I’m posting these here as my contribution and tribute to all my comrades.

    #470 – Deep Revolution
    http://www.radio4all.net/index.php/program/34329

    #469 – Money and the Age of Prostution
    http://www.radio4all.net/index.php/program/34186

    #468 – The Anonymous Power
    http://www.radio4all.net/index.php/program/34074

    #467 – Reducing Everything to Nothing
    http://www.radio4all.net/index.php/program/33946

    #466 – The Ideology of Reduction
    http://www.radio4all.net/index.php/program/33831

    #465 – In the Image of the machine
    http://www.radio4all.net/index.php/program/33676

    #464 – Naming, Numbering and the Control of Time
    http://www.radio4all.net/index.php/program/33545

    #463 – Addiction to Control
    http://www.radio4all.net/index.php/program/33435

    #462 – The Masters Tools
    http://www.radio4all.net/index.php/program/33299

    #461 – Technology and Control
    http://www.radio4all.net/index.php/program/33170

    #460 – The Age of Reunion
    http://www.radio4all.net/index.php/program/33047

  15. Youri Carma

    Very Clarifying Article – Must Read!

    Secretive Electronic Latency Stockmarket Skimming account for 73% of all US equity trading Volume http://tinyurl.com

  16. Tofu Charlie

    Great stuff. Just keeps getting better.

  17. @Richard

    RE: Goldman Sucks’ Theft

    I think Mr. Hudson understood the implications,
    what he was trying to stress is that GS won’t call it “theft” or “manipulation”
    They’ll use more innocuous words such as “providing liquidity” or “Market making”…
    The point is, they’ll wag their finger at others, but not see the 3 fingers pointing back at them from their own hand….

    They are soul-less, unconscionable psychopaths…
    They are POLITICIANS OF FINANCE…
    They are a CORPORATION…

    And they have gotten, are getting, and will get away with their “manipulation” until death does them part (and some well placed explosives at their HQ, or at least one helluva hack job on their servers)

    But like the Hydra of myth,
    you cut off one head,
    and another two will pop out…

    The “heart” needs to be removed (i.e. Black-Box trading)
    that would at least bring the manipulation back to more “Cramer”-like proportions…

    Either that, or let EVERYONE have a “black-box” program
    so the market can meltdown in one great clusterfuck of data-streams…
    (Like Godzilla vs. Mothra vs. Hedorah vs. Gigan vs. Megalon vs …)

    On a side note,
    has anyone noticed that a majority of the “green shoot”, rose-coloured glass-wearing analysts have all booked vacations and are nowhere to be found now???

  18. Today, it is hard to imagine a more important topic than jobs and personal financial security, yet somehow Americans continue to function under the illusion that all will be better when the recession ends. ..When the Gov. provides free health care, and cleans up the environmental pollution, LOL!

    What part of coups d’E´tat don’t they understand?

  19. Youri Carma

    ” Free Lunch is Over! ”

    Wauw! That’s News! Great Stuff!

  20. (that’s Southern french, ..with an ‘s.’ It’s pronounced ‘koupz day tah’)

  21. Bubble trouble and the big brain on Brad…

    http://www.edge.org/

  22. Oh yes no climate change here… where did you get your instructions from Palin, Fox News, Rush? Right …..

  23. The question isn’t whether there is climate change…
    (there’s plenty of historical record for that)

    The question is WHAT ARE THE MAJOR FACTORS that cause it,
    and is it YOUR FAULT because of the amount of beans you digest poorly in your large intestine…

  24. MAX, you’re firing on all cylinders. Good show.
    Go, Max, go!

  25. max and stacy, i don’t want to jump down turn around pick a bale of cotton. but i have to figure out something quick. i’ve been raped by these banksters, and i need to resurrect myself somehow before things go where they’re inevitably going.

    probably going to have to go to med school or something. no, wait, that would mean student loan debt. maybe start selling grass. yeah, buy some tangible asset farmland and grow grass. jump down turn around and pick a bale of dope.

  26. Where’s Stacey? Usually there is a section with her. Anywho, Another good episode

  27. There you have it folks. King Boomtown Rat works for GS. How appropriate.

  28. Martin Blake

    Ok good show max but the guy on your show wouldnt stop saying, “uh”. It was almost unbearable. I really can’t watch or listen to anything with something like that. Its just bad radio/tv with a million, “uhs” thrown in.

  29. Great show, it had a bit of a slow start where it wandered a bit.. Maybe its effective to show actual numbers, f.i. the programed trades cost 100.000.000 a day = 140 USD per citizen per year.

    I am tied between thinking Pickens is a shill for promoting wind and now blaming failure on the power transmission or just a victim of his peers.

    We may see one of the great dollar holding countries dump all to crash one of the others (without regard for the US). The dollar is becoming an increasingly viable WMD.

  30. chalcedonite

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPrDeKLP5hk

    http://www.politics.ie/economy/84382-medvedev-shows-off-sample-coin-new-world-currency-g-8-a.html

    By Lyubov Pronina

    July 10 (Bloomberg) — Russian President Dmitry Medvedev illustrated his call for a supranational currency to replace the dollar by pulling from his pocket a sample coin of a “united future world currency.”

    “Here it is,” Medvedev told reporters today in L’Aquila, Italy, after a summit of the Group of Eight nations. “You can see it and touch it.”

    The coin, which bears the words “unity in diversity,” was minted in Belgium and presented to the heads of G-8 delegations, Medvedev said.

    The question of a supranational currency “concerns everyone now, even the mints,” Medvedev said. The test coin “means they’re getting ready. I think it’s a good sign that we understand how interdependent we are.”

    Medvedev Shows Off Sample Coin of New ?World Currency? at G-8 – Bloomberg.com

  31. @Max&Stacy … GREAT show … Thanks !

    So much truth concentrated in such a small time-slot … well done !

    @Richard .. “Dr. Hudson wasn’t eager to agree totally ”

    Hi Richard,
    I think he said it “was” in fact manipulation , but thanks to lax regulation, they’re allowed to get away with it – i.e. legalized robbery !

    @All …
    If you think that Cramer Video is bad , you should all read the book about him …

    Trading with the Enemy

    http://www.amazon.com/Trading-Enemy-Seduction-Betrayal-Cramers/dp/0060086513/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1247296677&sr=1-2

    I repeat ( yet again )…
    After finishing the book in less than 6 hours, I expected arrests and FBI action etc. ; nothing happened except Cramer got a “regular” CNBC spot some months later !
    .
    .
    .
    It is just mind-boggling how criminal the whole Govt/WS setup is. As Mike Hudson said at the end , the system of “take our US$ Debt or face our military” is so true … as John Perkins testifies as well. A protection racket on a Global scale !

    The number of “good guys” ( and girls ) out there is getting bigger every day ….
    Max & Stacy , ZeroHedge, Dr. Hudson, Catherine Austin-Fitts, Ron Paul, Gerald Celente, Karl Denninger, Jesse’s Cafe, Peter Schiff, Jim Rogers, Marc Faber , G. Edward Griffin, Richard Bookstaber, Alex Jones , von Mises website etc. etc. etc. etc.
    Nice to see the likes of Bloomberg and FT now starting to report these scandals as well !

    Keep up the great work !

    PS: Great comments and links .. Thx all !

  32. Youri Carma

    High frequency electronic algorithmic based latency stockmarket skimming account for 73% of all US equity trading volume but represent only 2% of the 20,000 or so trading firms operating in the US markets http://tinyurl.com/njntjx

  33. Neville Bartos
  34. Here’s a good example of the cost of war or profits being made, taken from Fred Shannons “America’s Economic Growth”

    The immediate costs of the war that followed certainly did not end before the middle of
    1947, by which time the total for seven years was $394 billion dollars. while hidden
    items in the expanded civil service no doubt increased the sum to an even four hundred
    billion. This was a third more than the total wealth of the United States in 1940. It
    was well over twice the national governmental expenses for all purposes during the
    proceding one hundred and sixty-five years, from the Battle of Lexington to 1940.As an
    abstract economic problem it could be demonstrated that the United States might have
    bought up everything in Germany, Italy and Japan farm by farm, lot by lot, bank by bank
    and exclude nothing for less than the cost of the war. Scientific and mechanized warfare
    proved to be the most costly method conceivable for settling international disputes. Some
    fourteen million Americans entered the armed services. At least twice as many persons at
    home were active overtime to keep these men supplied. During the four years, at the most
    generous estimate, the military forces slew half a million of the enemy, not counting
    civilians. This was the equivalent of twenty-eight gunners and fifty-six gun bearers and.
    servants hunting four years to kill one man at a cost of $800,000 and incurring twice as
    much later expense in disposing of the body.

  35. I’m all at sea!!

  36. Big Thanks Max & Stacy

  37. doomandbloom

    did i see ‘ ON THE EADG- Paris’ ?? or was this intentional?

  38. NZ telly you have got to see, or telly MK needs to see to understand NZ better :

    http://tvnz.co.nz/how-the-other-half-lives

    How The Other Half Lives follows Marc Ellis around New Zealand as he steps in to the shoes of people who have chosen to live a lifestyle outside the mainstream.

    From Friday night chanting with Hare Krishnas, to hunting with East Coast bushmen; playing cricket with Indians; and a visit to the remote Chatham Islands, Ellis discovers some of the diverse communities that make up New Zealand, breaking down a few preconceived stereotypes along the way.

    “The series is a bit of a celebration really. There are a lot of people out there who have smiles on their faces because they’ve chosen to do things slightly different,” says Ellis.

    “To be honest, the series was a real eye opener. I knew very little, aside a few basic stereotypes, so it was a great time to spend a few days with people getting to know a little bit about the way they see and do things, and what lights their candle.”

    The distinctly different communities he experiences along the way include: Nelson’s Riverside Community, West Coast coalminers; members of Auckland’s Muslim community; and Hip Hop fans.

    I have one BitTorrent site invite, of 36:

    Your friend registration link as shown below:
    http://diwana.org/signup.php?invitehash=848cfcbf4eb48f4f61cc447518ebdfe8&type=invite

  39. Youri Carma

    Goldman Sachs Gangsters Banksters still on track LOL

    ” …when they report second-quarter earnings as fees in some markets remained near record highs.”

    “Wow, we’re getting into a fixed-income cycle,’” Sanford C. Bernstein & Co. analyst Brad Hintz said”

    “Goldman Sachs, JPMorgan and Barclays Plc are among banks poised to post big trading gains, Hintz said”

    FROM: JPMorgan, Goldman Sachs May Repeat Trading Profit: Chart of Day (Bloomberg) http://tinyurl.com/njggw7

  40. Youri Carma

    It sounds very logical when China, India and Russia are drawing a sharp line in the sand for the U.S. and beginning to deny them their free lunch. U.S. eyes possible goal increase for the Afghan army http://r.reuters.com/zat58c

    India is getting harassed by spreading turmoil from Pakistan instignated by purposely mindless drone bombing of the U.S. Army knowing to starken the Talibans whit a growing group of revengeful youngsters who just lost their family.

    China has many intern problems with unimployment and social unrest with at the same time many outside problems with a vapouring dollar and chanlanged borders by the United States of America payed for out of their own wallet cynically enough.

    Russia getting tested by Georgia the proxy state of Israel and the U.S. attacking Russian soldiers out of the blue.

    The Afghanistan borders never were guarded by the U.S. Army “To allure the enemy in so we can fight them” was told as bogus reason to the trustfull soldiers who are used as stool pigeons apparently.

    It’s always the Ol school divide and conquer & order out of chaos destabilizing the area’s round China, India and Russia. Why should they keep playing the chump, that doesn’t make sense at all?

  41. @ Max On The Edge . Good informative interview with Dr. Hudson . Well Done !

  42. Youri Carma

    Correction:
    The Iraq borders never were guarded by the U.S. Army “To allure the enemy in so we can fight them” was told as bogus reason to the trustfull soldiers who are used as stool pigeons apparently.

  43. Youri Carma

    Turmoil turns Iran’s energy sector to Beijing http://tinyurl.com/lby4qz

  44. bill wadell

    Great show as always…….

    As a note:

    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aeFVNYQpByU4

    This article is proof that the Russian oligarchs are in total collusion with the group of bankers trying to establish a world currency out of the demolition of the dollar.
    To say that the BRIC nations are in effort to establish a world currency is ludicrous. They are in no position to do so and do not have the power to override the ones presently in empowered with the job. The only entity capable of establishing world currency are the ones currently in charge and they are so powerful….they will not be over run. To think so is foolish. This entire event is not about the United States, its bologna democracy or its people. In actuality this is about the disintegration of the United States to level the playing field for the purpose of a new supreme world governing body. This why the US constitution is “nothing more than a piece of paper” (spoken by well groomed baby Bush by banking cartel direct partner, daddy Bush!) This is also why baby Bush has passed enormous amounts of legislation in preparation for massive civil unrest during the transformation of the USA into the Amero wheeling North American Union. The “war on terrorism” is not for the benefit of the USA citizens….it is for something more important than that. It is for the benefit of the “people in charge” to remain in charge during the up coming transformation of the United States. The evidence is OVERWHELMING.

    This is ALL about exponentially expanding the power to control every aspect of currency by the present entity that is implementing this collapse. (it is not the money, the US Dollar, it’s the CONTROL of the money. The dollar is only a tool, nothing more, for the money controlling entity.
    The conglomerate of people and huge organizations (Federal Reserve, IMF, UN, WTO, WHO etc etc) are cooperating together to bring about “change” by collapsing the world financial system and establish a world currency and world prototype government. They are EXTREMELY powerful…..more so than any government on the planet. In addition, the elite US gov officials are in direct partnership. Obama is totally aware of the agenda of collapsing the dollar. Obama is a banker for all practical purposes. He is an employee of the money controlling entity. This is why his entire group of assisting henchmen are bankers. The entire elite us gov is employed by the money controlling entity (The Federal Reserve being the spearhead organization). The separation between the us gov and the Federal Reserve is a misdirecting con of mammoth proportion. Due to the importance of the current state of the agenda, it is blatantly obvious to even the lowest level of uninformed citizen. The agenda is now out in the open. NWO is spoken frequently in the money controlling entities, bought and paid for, media machine. The total alliance between the us elite gov and money controlling entity is without question. The citizens of the usa and world are in denial. Nobody wants to believe the obvious. Obama has been placed into presidential power to make the collapse more acceptable to the globe and convince everyone to accept the “change” to world currency and world government. Obama is an employee of the Federal Reserve banking conglomerate entity. This huge conglomerate is succeeding in making the public of the world think that this is all one big unforeseen mistake and are trying to fix it the best they can. That is an enormous lie. They have been planning the collapse of the dollar and have purposely got the world heavily invested in our currency (fraudulently) for more than 15 years.

  45. Great show!
    I contacted Peter Schiff’s company recently to discuss an investment portfolio for when I sell my house, ie. putting the proceeds into different stocks/commodities. DEFINITELY won’t be doing that now. I never realised the market was rigged to this extent, I won’t be going near it with a barge pole.

  46. @ Youri
    Here in Britain we’re being told by our wonderful msm that the reason we are in Afghanistan is so that we can build some schools…………..pity we’re killing the children that could go to those schools.

  47. Youri Carma

    @bill wadell Much true so!

    Listening to AJS with Tarpley I understand that the Russians granted Obama to have a fly over zone for Afghanistan cause the Russians don’t mind sending some G.I. into some Afghanistan meat grinder and more meat’s to come according to a suppused plane bringing more troops in.

    Iraq will remain a front for the American soldiers if the want to keep control over the oil & pipe line. If the Americans leave, a long ago predicted civil war, wil start again.

    Question in this situation is if the U.S. can afford a third front in Iran? The Americans now use Israel as their personal pittbull against Iran. But Israel maybe overplaying their hand whitout consulting the other parties like China, India and Russia. Surely Biden wants to see some more turmoil in the middle east with Israel blatanly attacking Iran with China behind getting more close. Turmoil turns Iran’s energy sector to Beijing http://tinyurl.com/lby4qz

    The American soldier will come back to a decadente Rome in major decline with their family land stolen behind their back just as the good old Roman days. Johannes wrote his “visions” in a cave on Patmos when he was held prison by the Romans. These “visions” are in fact a gut inside from Johannes seeing the big picture of how this Roman empire came to an end, seeing it happen right in front of his eyes.

  48. Mike/Liverpool

    Sharon
    Am with Euro-pac…………..would you like to discuss?
    Mike

  49. Richard@lattitude30N

    @Bill Wadell: might I say: Thank you Alex Jones…listen to Max on the AJ radio program and visa versa….we are all in agreement…
    @Phil: Thnx for the kudos…I might have missed his intent to say “was”…Hudson hesitated clearly looking for the right words to hedge against saying it is out and out fraud…and overt manipulation

  50. Youri Carma

    @sharon

    We’ve been told the same bogus although I believe that the naieve Dutch army realy had those intentions in the beginning which where brutely broken by the harsh Afghanistan Taliban vs Afghanistan daily controversy.

    And now they’re still slugging the war just like the Brits.

  51. Johnny Dangereaux

    Climat change is such bs it isn’t even funny.
    Look who works together in the carbon mkt game….go figure….

    From here: http://www.apx.com/about/history.asp

    December – Goldman Sachs signs agreement to become an investor in APX.

    2008

    January – Brian M. Storms joins APX as Chairman and Chief Executive Officer.

    February – New York office opens as APX expanded services for the fast–growing global financial and environmental commodities markets.

    March – Carol Browner, former Administrator of the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, joins APX Board of Directors. Ms. Browner, who has a distinguished career in public service, brings to APX’s Board deep expertise in environmental policy, including climate change issues.

  52. Quite hard to conceive that our perceptions have been manipulated our whole lives,…..and still are.
    Remember when a guy riding a horse, wearing a mask, with a gun, was called a highwayman,….(perception is reality)!
    Okay the horse is replaced with a limo’ ,..mask with a sneer and a wink,…and gun with the knowledge of folks naivety.

  53. Youri Carma

    Powers won’t wait for Iran to build nuclear weapon: Obama
    10 July 2009, (AFP – The Raw Story) http://tinyurl.com/mde2zc

  54. So… since the Chinese have made deals with brazil, Russia, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Venezuela and negotiating with Kuwait and the US at the same time have been humpty dumpty on the wall missing out on these deals. The US feel it is entitled to get the premium oil deal with Iraq because of their effort to force Iraq to be free, em… to force Iraq to be democratic… and don’t forget the dead soldiers the US sacrificed for Iraq.
    Though I have a problem with the equation: 4000 US dead soldiers/private mercenaries vs. 1 000 000 Iraq dead civilians – who “sacrificed” the most I wonder…

    It seems like the United States want to charge fees for ‘spreading democracy’ the receivers never asked for in the first place.

  55. @ Mike2liverpool
    Yes, I’d love to discuss europac. What’s you experience?

  56. nobody seems to have anything to say about my tie this week

  57. THANK YOU to Max and Stacy…for your snarly, pithy evaluations which remain right over the target. We watched Syrianna last night for 1st time (thanks to Stacy for the tip)…and I’m still trying to recover my eyeballs which fell right out of my head, bouncing around on the floor ;-) re: The Butcher. Good God!

  58. Youri Carma

    @Palantíri

    I share your feelings about this ackward equation but you have to research more on history to get the complete pictutre also geo-political.

    It’s an illusion to think that Iraq is free now let alone democratic. The U.S. have put their best CIA remigrated Iraqi who will beheaded as soon as Iraq is realy free again, Iraq is occupied by the U.S. Army mind you!

    Before CIA Saddam Hussein even game to power by brute force Iraq was in a civil war. Saddam tyranized Iraq into more Staus Quo which Saddam himself had to disturb by attacking Iran, funded by the Americans and later Koeweit.

    Saddam Hussein was betrayed by the U.S. which could be a lesson for others who have to cooperate with the them.

    Taliban was funded through the CIA prop AL Qaida with Bin Laden as their main CIA frontman to get the weapons (Stingers) and money on the right place so they could go shoot Russian helicopters.

  59. @ Max,
    It’s a lovely tie Max. Actually it looks a bit like my son’s grammar school tie.

  60. Peasants United

    Thanks Max & Stacy.

    Great episode in high gear with great guest.
    Missed Stacy though….

    A 6-part docu you might like:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riHY9Ik-Uoo

    “The recordings relate to the assassinations of the Kennedy brothers, the little known and classified “Black Ops” used to intentionally create the war in Vietnam, CIA “mind control” programs relating to the RFK assassination, the Jonestown massacre, and the MLK assassination.”

    How GS got its own uber -mob (must see):

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzNyYPjrv2s

  61. Mike/Liverpool

    Sharon
    Lots to discuss, but certain info i rather not put out to the wider world. Why not ask Stacy or Max to forward your e-mail to me.

    Mike

  62. YT Video : jberni1
    NEW WORLD CURRENCY Presented by Russian President
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fSvF6iQFdM

    He made the same point I made yesterday to a friend … that the US is only 20% of world GDP, and only 300 mio. people of the 6 Bio. on this planet. And despite the US (US$) thinking it’s all important, there is a BIG world outside the US , which is getting economically BIGGER and now wants to ( quite rightly IMO) exercise it’s rights to a bigger piece of the cake !
    Of course, IMO this means that the “West” may one day end up beingn forced to pay-up in “real” money like Gold, Oil, Products etc. instead of fiat paper .. in order to get manufactured goods from the East .

  63. Didn’t notice the tie but thought the rolled up sleeves was very much the Mad Money

    On me eadg son!

  64. @Johnny Dangereaux

    Here are the connections for APX. Click on them.

    http://www.muckety.com/APX-Inc/5026516.muckety

  65. @Youri Carma – I always need to do more research and learn more, that’s a given. I am aware of the history youri but that has little to do with my post. The post was a respond to what Thomas Boone Pickens said. Also, if I force you to be free, are you really free then?

  66. What do you think of the media now?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9GYaUQyUxY

  67. @ Mike2liverpool…………will do, thanks.

    @ Stacy,
    Re: Mike2liverpool’s post…….I would be grateful if you could pass my email address on to Mike. Many thanks.

  68. Gerald Celente on Jeff Rense 9 July 2009

    Part 5 is missing for some reason :

    1,2,3,4,6

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tC7nSqR_wCM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IS4er_5v90

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HY0QrjIwEJs

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4RgiuskjeA

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlswax94vCo

    Gets going during Part 2.
    As usual , Gerald talks a lot of common sense !

  69. @Skinny Scott 7-pounds from Oregon

    As you can see from that Video,
    the “Lesbian Cowboy” is one of the worst PMs Canada has ever had…
    He talks about needing “transparency” yet HIS own party of crooks are one of the least transparent…
    We (as citizens) are not allowed to “audit” their expenses, for example…
    Almost everything they do is behind closed doors,
    the media is “hand-picked” for his Q&A in front of the cameras (i.e. Harpo won’t allow independent journalists to grill him)
    Members in his “par-tay” are constantly involved in bungles and scandals…

    He talks about the “financial system needing to be fixed”
    and yet it IS FIXED (i.e. rigged) just the way he likes it…

    And what’s worse, is that in his current minority gov’t,
    the option that Canadians will likely vote for is an ex-pat that hasn’t been in Canada for 34 years, and will likely leave if he doesn’t win the next election (which may come in the fall if the Harper Cons lose another vote in the House of Commons)
    Michael Ignatieff (Iggy as he’s called in the street) is just another douchebag from a different vendor…

    The situation for the future of Canaduh is quite dismal really…
    Mel Hurtig spells it out quite clearly in his book “THE TRUTH ABOUT CANADA” where he compiled StatsCan & OECD stats into meaningful commentary…
    This video breaks it down fairly well
    http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=8632069635967998175&hl=en
    (if the link doesn’t work, do a search for “Who killed Canada” 1h14m video)

  70. @Max: Thanks Max & Stacy for putting so much of this gobbledygook information into an ever clearer, coherent picture. You are swinging the bells of an exponential global wake up call.
    Love your show ‘On the Edge…’, a few months back, I named my brother Ed’s company, ‘Edge Immigration’; and he thinks it means one thing, while I’m just trying to push the bastard over the edge to wake him up. Maybe your show will do it for me.

  71. Hey great episode. You should have Webster Tarpley on your show. He has a lot to say about derivatives.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MouUJNG8f2k

  72. @Youri,……..Is that your and max’s dungeon safe house ; )
    where you swap things and stuff!!

  73. Clique of bankers … & Obama, the new puppet

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MouUJNG8f2k
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-KJCMWcoms

    Does anyone know who Webster Tarpley is ?
    TIA

  74. @max keiser

    Did I allready mention thatyou somehow look very tastefull in those more conservative suits whit this lovely new touch of possible new trends, very lively expressed in a lovely tie which completes the set as a diamond in a beatifull golden ring setting crafted by the most skillful goldsmid you could find in Marocco.

    But no kiddn love the sharped dressed Max.

  75. Bio Shocked green poisoned Dungeons with high radiation levels for unpleasant dying seems to be the new trend indeed. ;)

    But if you have a Cornish pasty in your hand, you don’t care where you sit.

  76. Richard@lattitude30N

    @Phil: you’ll find Webster Tarpley a regular on the AJ show; authored many books; also http://www.tarpley.net … very vocal about the socio/political/economic picture….

  77. Youri–

    OH GOOD GOD!!!!

    I just lost seven pounds out my backside!!!

  78. @Richard .. Thanks.

  79. @Richard …

    Just listening to the end of the second link I posted.
    He seems to me to be correct on Nato ; something even I have been frowning upon – Nato Expansion … or better , the Europeans being fooled into expanding Nato .
    Just finished … very interesting indeed.

  80. Richard@lattitude30N

    @Phil: even before Gen.Wesley Clark headed NATO forces the military buildup there has been unsurpassed….In the 1990′s I was paying attention that NATO forces were quietly expanding hand over fist…thus we have the Breszinski geo-political view that the WEST must surround Russia and if you read Catherine Austin Fitts blog archive she has a global map showing the Colored Revolution nations and the various former Soviet Islamic nations ( those around the Caspian Sea ) and now Afghanistan and Iraq…to hem in the Russian expansion…Apparently in Zbig’s eyes Iran is in his sights!!!! There are complications as Russia is the #1 supplier of German natural gas thanx to ex-Chancelor Shroeder (who now heads up the natural gas line company)…And as Russia has recently supplied Iran with 80 tons of fissionable nuclear material and has given air traffic rights to the USA for flights to Kabul…it’s Russian hegemony is receiving kudos from both sides ….So we can’t seem to ween ourselves from the military/oil cartel or the Cold War….and as we can see Mr. Obama has no care to follow through on his pre-election day speeches…He is a captive to the massive and ongoing Military/Industrial/Wall Street Cartel/Oligarchs….we a f**ked for another generation or two…regardless of the actual geo-political forces on the ground….it’s just so programmed in, that, as the 1960′s Blackburn Commission stated: what is needed to be maintained are a continuum of small wars, one after another….infinitum….And now we not only have all the mechanisms and structures to create an ongoing source of funds either onshore or offshore, this derivative ( and eventually vitual ) reality will fund this negative economic being infinitum…So we are faced with finding a way to get out of the way and survive the insane transfers of billions and trillions among the insiders…otherwise we will be faced with the eugenics solutions to limit the population to nearly zero..

  81. @Johnny Dangereaux

    SHELL is the frontrunner for the crazy idea putting CO2 into the ground – what A rip off! SHELL atmited only concentrating on oil and Coal. This fraudulent CO2 policy could turn against them in the end cause more and more people are starting to wake up from the CO2 Hoax. They know that the Ice monsters are key evidence and they now blatantly falsify evidence cause they are desperate. A cat caught in a corner can make crazy jumps.

    Gore Denies that Ken Lay, Goldman Sachs CEOs Helped Develop C02 Trading ‘Scheme’ http://tinyurl.com/cwroeu

  82. Why was Angus Young presenting the show this week? :D

    Very good show as usual this week folks. Yeeeaaaaahhhh, “Jump down turn around big up a bail of cotton!” I’m still waiting for that mp3!

  83. @max/stacy

    no blip.tv? i try to spend as little time on the google mafia’s turf as possible.

  84. Rabobank; Jeroen van IJzerloo says in a Dutch RTL Z interview (10 July 2009) that 20% of the Chinese stimulus goes directly into the stockmarket and 30% into the housingmarket.

    As such creating a new stockmarket and housing bubble which doesn’t seem to be a very good idea of spending your stimulus.

    Cause that’s exactly the reason why these two are going up at the moment and that doesn’t do anything for the fundamentals of the economy.

    China will not be able to help Europe out of this crises cause it’s economy is still to small and therefore domestic demand has to increase.

    8% growth in China will be impossible cause of the strongly decreased exports in the West.

  85. @Richard .. ” thanx to ex-Chancelor Shroeder (who now heads up the natural gas line company)”

    BTW , yes , your post sums it up nicely.

    Ex-chancellor Schroeder works for a German subsidiary of Gazprom as you said. A friend of mine met him 6 weeks ago at his golf club in Cologne. My guess is these people like Blair ( JPMorgan mio.$ “job” ) , Schroeder etc. just get these jobs as a reward for ….. !
    Interestingly, Ex-Chancellor Kohl stood before the highest court in Germany a few years ago and simply told the judge what to do , saying he wouldn’t allow him to search his house and refused to hand over documents. Any normal person would be in jail.
    The case concerned Arms Dealing with “Hr. Schreiber” who was hiding in Canada at the time.
    The German Public Prosecutor tried to get Canada to extradite Schreiber who then set up a website and promised to display “secret” documents ( incriminating many German politicians ) – one per week – until they stopped trying to extradite him.
    ( I read a few of them … explosive stuff – names mentioned etc. – never appeared in the German MSM of course ).
    Then in Feb 2008, the Canadians agreed to extradite him … nothing more was heard in Germany … as if all the players had suddenly disappeared. ( The justice Minister had probably replaced the public prosecutor ).
    In fact, there was a TV documentary about the fact that the “turnover” of Public Prosecutors in Bonn was something 120 within 5 years !!! Some of the PPs spoke out “under-cover” for the documentary ( i.e. disguised ) and said that it was impossible to prosecute politicians because the Justice Minister always interferes !

    What annoyed me most is that the Germans just don’t seem to give a sh*t ; I spoke to a quite few people and they just don’t care – even although Kohl was a much hated figure here .

    There are many German books published on the subject of corrupt German politicians – many by German Uni Professors , but they never make the MSM.
    FWIW

  86. @Phil

    I was watching that whole Schreiber VS Mulroney saga on CPAC in Canada…

    He was just using the weak-kneed (and crooked) justice system here to stall as much as possible…
    but as this article states,
    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/schreiber-loses-latest-bid-over-extradition/article1215093/
    his hand has been played out…
    Nevertheless, he’s still managing to “delay” the process…

    Fact is, if you want to commit “white-collar” crimes, Canada is the place to be since you’ll only get a slap on the wrist (or in the case of the Livent fraud case currently going on, a possible speaking tour in Canadian High-Schools… THAT’LL TEACH THEM!!!!)

    However, if you want to get TASERED or shot to death for being poor and unable to speak coherent English,
    Welcome to Canaduh…
    I sometimes wonder if having the “Hell’s Angels” in charge of Canada wouldn’t be a better option…

  87. Richard@lattitude30N

    @Phil: thnx for the lengthy tidbit about Shroeder…My point is that if you,Phil, were able to compose a “program” for the euro currency replacement then the NWO folks must certainly have this all pre-programed step by step until all their machinations are in place….thus we “debt/slaves”, as lovely Stacy has called us, are insignificant particles ( bits and bites) of the matrix that only has physical room for the insiders….all the overt corruption that has recently and not so recently been exposed ( no WMD’s in Irag…the $134.5 b in US bonds in Italy, the GS proprietary code in the open like a CIA NOC list, the IG’s of the FED and the SEC while before Congressional hearings spinning tales of incompetence…well the list goes on and on) and so little is being done to bring any balance to the entire coup….That is why I brought up the “complication” of Shroeder in the mix…in the past it was easier to see the good guys from the evil doers…today it’s all smoke and mirrors…like Berlusconi playing up to the G-8 members by presenting “gifts”: an original work of art, and a $3900 gold coin —the eurodollar—Soon he’ll have one minted in time for the British election: the “europound”…and they are laughing all the way to the IMF or the BIS or Im-Ex Bank or their secret Swiss bank accounts….With $1.2 quadrillion in derivatives to wind down…where is the relief??? that alone will take 20 years!!!! And it’s all a fraud!!! I once read a 450 pp book called Crack the Code….it gave a lengthy history of the central banks and corporations usurping power over a century and a half..it also gave instructions on how to remove ones self from the “system”…yet…you then become an anarchist and it would require an army to defend your principles…you become a rogue state, a nation unto yourself…not exactly a simple matter….I didn’t grow up to be a “debt/slave” all my life…yes…I was born in Britain and after arriving here I was given a social security card…I’m waiting on the next biometric tagging mechanism… so in that sense I have been a debt/slave fora long time..but I also did some Federal prison time and have become yet again entrapped in the maze….at least for now…. Being smarter is getting me anywhere…when overt financial wealth is all the NWO folks respect…I have this motto: people only like you when you give them something…thus the $3900 gold coin????????????

  88. @Giuseppe .. Canada

    Looks like there really is no place to run or hide ( from the matrix ) !
    IMO life has become so complicated ( as Richard says – you can’t tell the good from the bad guys these days ) that I sort of always dreamed of a Log Cabin in Canada – away from it all – living a peaceful life with books , fishing and a wooden stove.
    ;-)

  89. @Richard … thanks for the input .. very interesting.

    This whole thing is really like “The Matrix” as you said …. there is actually a YT’er called “BreakTheMatrix” Ms. Roche … who would fit in well with our crowd here !

    I have often raised the issue that my biggest fear is Internet Censorship …. dread the thought . The Euro Pirate Party is a small but good start … will be convincing many Germans to vote them in the next election. The Swedes voted them into the Euro parliament with 7% ; the Germans only got 1%.
    Still …it’s some hope !

  90. Richard@lattitude30N

    @Phil: glad you enjoyed the input….I’ll look up Ms Roche soon…As for the Pirate Parties…well I thought they were singularly interested in internet issues…Here in the USA..the third party movement is known as an outsider at best…the electoral rules just about prevent any realistic entrance onto the main stage….Ron Paul, a former Libertarian candidate, is well spoken on why he remains in the Republican Party….even though he is a determined Libertarian…Waiting on a Populist ( ala Andrew Jackson) to save the day…HA!!!! IMHO ex-Gov.Jesse Ventura knows better than to run for president..he may return from Mexico to run for the Minnesota Senate race in 2010… He’s a no BS kind of guy…Congressman A. Grayson is also a live wire…along with Sen Bernie Sanders, Congr. D. Kucinich, and maybe a few others….But as the K Street crowd have all the loot behind the scenes…it almost seems IMHO too corrupt to change…

  91. @Stacy

    I think there’s a typo on the onscreen titles when your guest is talking: ON THE EADG – PARIS

    (see video part 3 at 0:35 for example)

    Shouldn’t it be On the Edge?

  92. Richard@lattitude30N

    @Phil: let the truth be told….when I was once more a free person…I too thought that Yellow Knife Lake in Canada might be a great spot to go to…then the cable network played “Ice Lake Truckers” about the transportation to the diamond mines….very torturous….even though I lived in below zero temps before..well that spot is frigid…so I remain @lattitude30N (for now)

  93. @Youri – um, that is scary!

  94. bill wadell

    @Richard
    Funny you mention Alex. I had learned of alex long before he was linking up with Max. Also, prior to seeing his site for the first time I had already researched the truth. Alex is very much on track and i agree with his anger. The entire population of the world should be angry. These people controlling the money supply are blantant mafia criminals needing to be executed by all societies of the world.

  95. jon in montana

    as max keeps saying. The foxes own the henhouse. Were in a world or hurt folks. I don’t understand the greed involved. These wallstreeters are allready super rich. Yet they have to get every cent more they can get.

    I believe its more to make the masses poor than for the rich to get richer. Hard to get richer than they already are. Thanks max and stacy. Great stuff as usaul.

  96. @jon in montana

    I agree with you. The world is in for a lot of hurt. Having said that, the world has been hurting for a very long time. The big difference now is the capitalists are now subjecting the ‘first world’ to the same economic brutality that the rest of the world has endured since the end of WW2.

    I used to think the problem was greed, but I think it goes much deeper than that. It is the fact that capitalism is fundamentally flawed that rewards antisocial (and anti-socialist) behaviour. Big fish eat the little ones, and ultimately you are left with monopoly state capitalism. Ironically the USSR was not socialist, but rather state capitalist, hence why if you scrape away the facade of ideology you will find that the USA at present is not far removed from the former USSR or present day Russia.

    Anyhow, what I am getting at is: the problem is the system. The system is based on greed and exploitation for day one. Change is not going to happen because one of the Rothschilds develops a social conscience. The rules of the game need to be changed from the core at the grass roots level.

  97. @Freudian and Joe in Montana

    All this insanity has been going on a lot longer than WW2 consider all the colonialism of the planet. First Britain and others colonized with invading as a “friend”, then by force to maintain their grip and ensure that the theft for the monarchies would continue. Then the US began its colonization of the minds of the world’s masses through television, movies and commercial adds.

    I remember some years ago while traveling in South America. i was in Venezuela walking through the market to see all the latest “knock off” goods and watched a guy wearing knock off Levi’s, a knock off Polo shirt trying to hold his pack of Marlboro cigarettes in one hand while smoking and making drinking a Coca Cola in the other hand. Oh yeah! he was also wear some knock off Ray Ban sun glasses. The point he was trying to make was the he was cool, or more alive, or more human because he had all these symbols and logos that he saw the rich and famous wearing on the t.v.

    This same “phenomena” has wreaked havoc on cultures all across the planet. I use to jokingly call it “Planet America” as each losses more and more of it’s identity, so too goes the knowledge of thousands of years of that cultures evolution to adapt to it’s environment. Early anthropologist observed this behavior while studying remote tribes and it raised a serious question for anthropologist. “Do you give to the natives any outside goods what so ever, or not?” Unfortunately, the anthropologist became the “front man” for the global elite, later to be used to inundate the locals into accepting the big rigs and bulldozers that were in route to destroy their paradise.

    Believing that they would have high paying jobs that would allow them to partake of the “white man’s” treasures too, many indigenous stood by and even helped the destruction of their cultures. Like a deer in the head lights of a high speed train. Never knew what hit them.

    Regards,
    Don

  98. Guiseppe,
    I always enjoy visiting Canadian cities and think it is a wonderful place. However, I do notice a lot of negative comments about the organized crime presence in Canada in the Toronto Star.
    http://www.thestar.com/article/664523

    Back on topic, I really enjoy listening to Webster Tarpey’s weekly show which you can find here.
    http://gcnlive.com/podcast/world_crisis/pcast.php

    I would love to see Max, Catherine Fitts, and Tarpley together for one show.

  99. Just saw your 3 part jul .10, 2009 videos…..

    May I suggest you advocate a 3% sales tax on
    every buy & sell that occurs on the stock market?????

    Immediately goldman sachs would stop their manupilation???

    bernie.

  100. @bernie … good idea, except I’m sure GS would find a another “Congress concession” to get ’round it !

    jberni1 ? .. by any chance ?
    ;-)

  101. @ youri carma ….. CO2 Hoax

    I was studing the effects of CO2 when doing reading Biology nearly 30 years ago – long before CO2 became a polictical subject. What “CO2 Hoax”? The effects of increased CO2 on the atmosphere and global temperatures is devastating. It studied it myself, but I’ll never convinve you, as you want cheap oil. Well Oil has peaked, so I’m having the last laugh.

    I fear the bandwagon that is rapidly gaining pace of the “no such thing as greenhouse effect” brigade. It so bleedin’ obvious that this “anti-global warming” BS comes from the fossil fuel industry, whilst they put up a front of being “green”.

    It’s so convenient for everyone to just say – “oh it’s BS, there is no such thing, I’ll carrying on driving my 4×4″. Of course everyone is getting on the bandwagon.

    We should all be living in highly insulated homes with solar panels and sticking up our middle fingers to the fossile fuel pushers. But no, addiction to oil is far easier.

    It’ll all end in tears for humanity – nature always wins in the long run.

  102. ‘What “CO2 Hoax”? The effects of increased CO2 on the atmosphere and global temperatures is devastating. It studied it myself, but I’ll never convinve you, as you want cheap oil. Well Oil has peaked, so I’m having the last laugh.’

    Anthropological global warming is over-politicized. No conclusive proof of anthropological global warming is there, since computer models are just not sufficient. Science authoritarianism is a religion. (check out the BBC series Heretics). Cosmic rays create clouds, valid theory based on real physics and lack of solar activity, not accounted for by current models of ‘mainstream’ climate change. Lack of solar activity lately ( low sun spots and low Not solar wind vs cosmic rays), and now we have mild summers.

    Mainstream science is funded by those with the most money.
    Peak oil is another issue, but regardless of anthropoligcal global warming or not, we need to stop being wasteful. I just hate brainwashing.

  103. Just a comment, in some small towns you see “market peonage” in the housing.

    Landlords know very well how much the town’s wage slaves are making e.g. $8 an hour, so the landlords conspire to raise rents to just what the wage slaves can pay after housing and food.

    It’s not just Goldman Sachs.