Stacy Summary: Will add more headlines after I return from place Concorde where I am walking around with my pitchfork and guillotine looking for some fellow peasants to march with me to La Defense. What headlines are you reading?? I know you have some good ones! Max won’t stop talking about the Sea Shepherd, so if you have anything to add to that discussion . . . do so here!
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@Youri Carma
Yow! But what if EATR tries to eat something that isn’t dead yet? What if it turns on the soldiers, or on the scientists who made it?
Wait, that sounds familiar…
@Youri Carma … “greater solar actibity”
Well, the 2012 info did explain that as well.
In the centre of our Galaxy is a black hole ( as is the case with most galaxies ). There is apparently a thin “plane” of gamma radiation emitting from the “flat” axis. Our solar system moves up and down this plane crossing it every ca. 28,000 years.
I mentioned that there will be – for us – two major effects.
#1 the strengthening gamma radiation on our sun … expected to increase solar activity
#2 the possible mutation of DNA – especially the neuro-transmitters
The effect will be noticable between 2008 and 2016, and at it’s strongest on 21.12.2012.
FWIW
NEW sunspot group maybe harbinger greater solar activity to come http://tinyurl.com/3xqmmq
The BA pilots pay cuts sound scary.
Already pilots have one of the highest rates of inebriation while on the job, now with a pay cut they might be feeling down and a little more tempted to grab the bottle.
Rachel Maddow Interviews Eliot Spitzer – Part 1 of 2 – 5/13/09
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOy9-wGaiIM
Rachel Maddow Interviews Eliot Spitzer – Part 2 of 2 – 5/13/09
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKshiun75Ec&feature=related
Enjoy !
@Amandip Singh … ” something that MSM didn’t bring to the light.”
Yes, which is why I got so irate at the time.
Thanks to the good YouTubers, someone bothered to document the details in the form of a video.
( I’m just too lazy …. but those points mentioned were the points I would have made )
All part of the fully corrupt Govt. & WS connection.
There have been so many SERIOUS books written about all this as well … but nothing ever happens to change things !
Max & Stacy are doing a good job in this respect … which is why we’re all here I suppose !
Banks way of dumping brokers who don’t “perform”.
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/business/story/0,28124,25783568-643,00.html
Al-Qaida threatens to target Chinese over Muslim deaths in Urumqi http://tinyurl.com/l8x6pd
@ Phil “The Assassination of New York Governor Eliot Spitzer”
Thanks for the link , its something that MSM didn’t bring to the light.
@Amandip Singh … “The Assassination of New York Governor Eliot Spitzer”
Good ol’ YouTube …. seems I’m not the only one that suspected this !
The Assassination of New York Governor Eliot Spitzer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMo7T9t0Gzk
Researchers: Attacks on U.S., Korea sites came from U.K. http://tinyurl.com/ollopm
@ alister
I support your demand to bring Elliot Spitzer to On the Edge. I think he do not need to be diplomatic, as Phil pointed out, when he comes on the Edge. He might speak his mind out.
@ Phil ” Elliot Spitzer” prostitute affair a plant
I agree with this point, cause gangster banksters might have been annoyed by what he was doing as attorney general of NY.
A History Video on the USA and the Gold standard
FYI
DOLLAR VS GOLD STANDARD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beQME8aV2e0&feature=rec-HM-fresh+div
Quite a good educational video on the corrupt Government, i.e. the FED and a Gold standard.
@alister … “Good man ”
That was my point !
even if he did sleep with a prostitute, who cares? he’s a good man
@Amandip Singh .. ” Elliot Spitzer”
Did anyone read his “Letter” after leaving office.
He basically said the whole system is corrupt.
Also, the “prostitute affair” was IMO probably a “plant” to get rid of him.
In the Video you linked .. he’s talking pretty “mildly” , i.e. being diplomatic.
Thx for the link.
stacy you should try and get spitzer on on the edge! that would be a coup
Right Link: Sarah Connor Has Failed — the British Just Built Skynet http://tinyurl.com/ltuxpw
Upcoming Military Robot Could Feed on Dead Bodies
http://tinyurl.com/n97mtf
Sarah Connor Has Failed — the British Just Built Skynet
http://tinyurl.com/cc5lhw
thx for the link! i really respect Spitzer
@Mother Earth,….I agree, to spread awareness that there are many more systems and perspectives is great, keep up the good work!
“SSCS is a law enforcement organization. The UN Charter for Nature gives private NGO’s the authority and obligation to enforce international laws when gov’ts fail to. Other laws SSCS is enforcing include CITES, the Antarctic treaty, and the IWC ban on commercial whaling, all of which are being violated by the current Japanese whaling operation. SSCS’s has also been hired by the gov’t of Ecuador to enforce enviro. laws in the Galapagos Islands.”
The UN is a suprasovereign agency backed by big globalist money. The UN has no authority to legislate police actions except by precedent established through coercion and the IMF. Anglo-Dutch hegemony are advanced through UN policing.
Some of we mere readers are responsible for families and are merely attempting to enable those we love to survive. We do not have the option of poop-pooping about on a yacht to advance UN sea policing policies.
@dedo Max is certainly raising awareness in favour of reality as opposed to the usual distraction
That article on gainsburg shows 1. she was wrong about her perception of an intent to reduce some populations. It wasn’t there. 2. Her own effort to create a non discriminative environment for pregnant women to consider an abortion. Less travel means less cost means more equality. Of course that means more abortions in poorer populations. If a mother is advised and accepted to consider her economical circumstences in her decision to become pregnant, then why wouldn’t she be allowed to if she unexpectedly is pregnant?
Otherwise I would say off course (!) there are eugenic forces in society.
Elliot Spitzer speaking about Matt Taibbi’s article in Rolling Stones magazine and Goldman Sachs and Banking bailouts in an interview at Bloomberg.
Sorry for long URL link
http://www.bloomberg.com/avp/avp.htm?N=av&T=Spitzer%20Says%20Banks%20Made%20%60Bloody%20Fortune%27%20With%20U.S.%20Aid&clipSRC=mms://media2.bloomberg.com/cache/vzOw2.PQ5THc.asf
And Chris,….are you really so naive to believe that Max would be allowed to take any action to tumble a system!
@Chris,…give it time and you will !
@Dedo: Not sure what you’re referring to when you say:
“,…Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely”
Perhaps you are referring to Paul Watson? If so, then given the fact that he has had to stand by powerless and watch the deaths of about 500 whales this season (in spite of saving another 500), then your adage implies that Watson must not be corrupt.
If you want to point fingers a powerful environmental groups, look at Greenpeace. They have a 100 million dollar+ annual budget. I’m not saying that they aren’t doing anything good. I do know however that they gave up trying to defend the whales in Antarctica. Last season, for the first time, SSCS was down there alone. This was rather dishonest of GP because the previous year they raised considerable $$ promoting their anti -whaling protest activities off Antarctica, which, while not as effective as SS’s, at least caused a the whalers a nuisance.
As Mother Earth pointed out, some people would rather criticize everybody who is trying to do something than do something themselves. I would just say: If you’re going to criticize anyone, say an activist, for their actions, then you need to tell us what YOU are doing (or will be doing) which is accomplishing more than those you criticize. (For example, Max has suggested the KarmaBanque strategy of financial activism) Anything less is mere whining.
@Motherearth,……..This might give you another perspective on what courts are there for,.!
http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=50819
@MotherEarth:
“whales with wigs”…hmmm like lipstick on a pig? I was trying to illustrate the hypocrisy of the UN judicial system IMHO: I’m sorry if I offended you. I meant the whales were wiser than the men who sat on the court, and the sea mammals know not yet man’s corruption.
All the shite in Christendom! The link doesn’t work, so type in the title of the article individually and you get the whole thing!
@snoot
But is cuts rather deep into the concept of environmental activism to ridcule a proces of legal defence of a species (whales with wigs). Defending environmental preservation is not ridiculous at all.
We forget courts are only there to help people make judgement that are controversial and need some autority to force one or the other party into accepting the ruling. Sometimes its obvious, and the only reason you have to go to court is because the other party is unwilling to move on.
F.i. If whales are so valuable, why not start a case suing the whalers for the replacement cost of the evolutionary process that led to whales, or ask them to pay extinction insurance based on catastrophic models of population collapse (5% extinciton risk means 5% of the replacement cost). All that by a representative of whale futures, or future whalers.
anyway..probably an obvious set of remarks..
“To me it is wildly inefficient to steam after ships at sea, risking the lives of yourself and the crew of the whaler if yor gola is to stop the whaling.”
Yes, and wickedly expensive. What are the goals? Suprasovereignty for the ICC?
@LordRothschild:
True to your namesake, to make lists of those whom you fashion undesirable!
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/4e02aeba-6fd8-11de-b835-00144feabdc0.html
I followed Youri’s plan: here’s Juergenwahl’s excellent link for those who don’t want to register to FT.
@ Mother Earth
“To me it is wildly inefficient to steam after ships at sea, risking the lives of yourself and the crew of the whaler if yor gola is to stop the whaling.”
So what would you suggest? Blowing them up at the quayside?!?
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*** Adds ‘Anything But Green’ to list ***
@Chris: Good info, thanks.
@MotherEarth:
“But I sense you make the sounds but would rather not worry about it..”
I am rather cynical; many good causes are promoted as a way to gain allegiance to an organization which may be used as a front for those who would to gain monopoly rights over nature and man. As for making sounds, I do write with phonetic English, but my actions support my principals, generally. I have not the money nor the influence to enact change in a dramatic fashion, but I do not align myself with change agents whose base intentions are belied by their associations.
@Chris,…..As the ole saying goes,…Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutley
Max,
Paul Watson read McCluan cover to cover before most Youtubers were born. All along he’s assumed that if it doesn’t happen in the media, then it didn’t happen. That’s why he’s enlisted celebrities like Bridgitte Bardot in the 60s and Seven Segal more recently. And now he’s deftly worked with Animal Planet to get the message out for 2 seasons. (Which can be seen on Youtube or Hulu ) He outlines all of his tactics in his book: Earthforce. Good reading for would-be activists.
By the way, it should be pointed out that his group, SSCS, is non-violent, has never harmed another person or animal and has never committed any crime (no felony convictions).
Someone asked about his “authority” to act on the high seas. While Greenpeace is a protest group, SSCS is a law enforcement organization. The UN Charter for Nature gives private NGO’s the authority and obligation to enforce international laws when gov’ts fail to. Other laws SSCS is enforcing include CITES, the Antarctic treaty, and the IWC ban on commercial whaling, all of which are being violated by the current Japanese whaling operation. SSCS’s has also been hired by the gov’t of Ecuador to enforce enviro. laws in the Galapagos Islands.
@snoopdiddy ,..it is in a file format so will find a way to get it to you !,[ see what i mean about it being hard to find and about it being there but not there ? !] m ciao !
serge gainsbourgs house on the, ‘rue de Verneuil’ ..WOW ! http://www.flickr.com/photos/loungerie/3049159087/
@marcus,
link didnt work, but no mind, the infos there, thanks,
g’nite from me.
Gold COMEX manipulation.
http://www.gata.org/node/7586
@snoopdiddy ….here is the link that Prof Steve Keen posted .for private debt levels australia may 19 th [hope it works ,..eyes and fingers crossed !] RBA Bulletin Statistical Table D2 his reply : ” Steve Keen said, in May 19th, 2009 at 8:14 am
You’ll find the approximate figure published in RBA Bulletin Statistical Table D2 Marcus. It’s currently A$1.916 trillion.
I say approximate because it doesn’t include the impact of some non-bank backed corporate bonds that add about another $100 billion.
There is a set of ABS data that I am told is more comprehensive, but I haven’t had the time to suss this out and produce my own sum. I tend to work just with the RBA D02 table data because that can’t be disputed, and the trends (and levels!) there are enough to make my case, even if the actual total is worse.” hope this helps ?
probably making new highs on the XAO around 2012-13?
@marcus,
what do you reckon of the possibility of the next wave up on the XAO being a wave 5 and reaching up towards 10,000 around 2017? Starting from Wave 1 before 87 crash, 87 crash as wave 2, up to 2007 crash as wave 3, 07onwards as wave 4…
any legs on that one. I think the Fibonacci numbers would mean this crash still has some way to go but Im not really too cluey on EWs just loosely understanding the concept.
More food for thought from America’s most notorious victim:
http://www.mediafire.com/?tjnoajjby5w
@ mother of earth,.. good to hear , i follow elliott wave[ewi] they were or are expecting gold /silver to fall further but this has not happened as much as expected, also US`dollar to strengthen short term, this has happened slightly but shall wait and see what happens until august/sept to see if they were right /.wrong?[ i like to see what works, if anything ? given that we don t access to the inner sanctum or have a GS magic black box ] i am sure if we all had one of those we could all have retired by now ?.good luck !
another article on Goldman topping forecasts:
Goldman Tops Forecasts With $3.4 Billion Profit
http://dealbook.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/07/14/goldman-earns-34-billion-in-quarter/#comments
Texas Straight talk…
Them jibe ass fed mutha f***ahs!
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/99317
Paul Watson is just another Busy Bee doing his bit for the NWO. What a hero!
All prominent “movements” including Greenpeace are no different from, say, the Revolutionary Internationalist Movement, which enjoys the protection of the British Crown (whatever that is… basically the Rothschilds… the “royals” are all Rothschild bastards, as are most of the puppet PMs and presidents put out there… Tony Blair’s an interesting case in point, dead ringer of Prince Andrew, and then there’s OH-Bummer–he must have a fascinating banker genealogy).
thanks @marcus
it just updated and it had only gone up by 38 to 7864. Oh well, good luck with the bet Max.
@snoopdiddy ,.. i shall dig back through my old posts and post the link here in a day or two [ the near 2 Trillion dollar figure was from about 3 months ago ]
@marcus Just as shiny as ever
Its not making me rich.. Gold is on the rise though..
I will have to see what the view count is next update to see if any of these attempts at views are successful.
Hi Stacey,
Here is a video of Meredith Whitney’s comments on the banks which was the spark that set off our new era of global economic prosperity. Pretty good if you haven’t seen it yet:
http://www.cnbc.com/id/15840232?video=1180792150&play=1
A+
@mother of earth ….i enjoy reading your posts ! [how is the gold going ?]
@marcus Well, I have an opinion as well
@ Rothschild Ok, different ship, same name..The boycot was about a related extradition dispute.
To me it is wildly inefficient to steam after ships at sea, risking the lives of yourself and the crew of the whaler if yor gola is to stop the whaling. However dedicated this PW is, he is not very smart. Never the less, cudo’s.
I did a flimsy artilce about it http://tinyurl.com/n7q97y
thanks @marcus, any chance you can post the link?
@LordRothschild, pagereboot.com might do the trick, Max might be able to make a killing on donut derivative products.,
@snoopdiddy … yeah,.. i had no end of trouble trying to find the figures for the private debt levels for australia,even with google this was almost impossible to find this figure, the figures are there but hidden away cleverly on ABS [australian bureau statistics web page ,files and data spreads ] you just about need to be an accountant [which i am certainly not ]to find this figure , in the end i emailed Prof Steve Keene and he kindly sent me a link together with an explanation ] i was genuinely shocked at the near 2 Trillion dollar figure ,he said that is minimum figure that he works with and is absolutely beyond dispute of any kind ,that is why he uses that figure, even though he believes it is likely far greater, but that`requires more interpretation of the data currently available.
@snoop
Heh… I’ll write an auto-refresh script for half a donut.
I really shouldn’t have had that cappucino at 10pm tonight
how does youtube measure views these days?
Is this still relevant?
http://newteevee.com/2008/05/19/report-youtube-yahoo-relax-standards-to-inflate-views/
Written by Liz Gannes
Posted Monday, May 19, 2008 at 6:41 PM PT
This year, TubeMogul tested a total of 14 different online video hosts and found YouTube and Yahoo at the other end of the list. Each of them ticks off a video view every single time a video is started, no matter if it’s halfway through, if the page is refreshed, or if the video’s played from an outside embed.
@ Mother Earth:
“@Rothshild The warrior was taken out for the time being. Nuclear test where done on a later date..Fines payed plae in comparison with the defence budget I assume. The boycot was aimed at NZ..”
Eh? What boycott?
The Rainbow Warrior was permanently taken out by the French attack – she’s now at the bottom of Matauri Bay playing home to the fishes.
The sinking – along with the murder of Fernando Pereira – was a huge PR boost for Greenpeace. It firmly cemented in the public mind the ‘David vs. Goliath’ image of the battle.
If Paul Watson manages to get himself killed by being harpooned (or shot again) by some trigger-happy Japanese whaler, the media frenzy that would ensue would probably do as much for the cause as anything he could hope to do alive – and he knows this!
By the fact that he’s still out there putting himself between the whalers and their prey, it’s fairly safe to assume that he’s comfortable with it. It was making that clear that got him booted from GP back in ’77.
Check out Derrick Jensen’s “Star Wars” analogy:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8649250863235826256
Then think again about which approach is ‘wildy inefficient’.
(Well written, Max, btw).
The only barrier to really making any significant changes is “moola” and the big boys hold all the aces,…..
And they know it!
@mother of earth,.. i think that you are perhaps being a bit hard on snoot ?,…”.but I sense you make the sounds but would rather not worry about it….’ we are all entitled to our opinions and think that we should at least get to know some one well enough first before we rush to pass judgment on them ,? m
@marcus
good to hear from another person who visits Steve Keen’s site, I dont visit it enough.
My typing skills are waning
Max, just interview gorgeous babes on the Paris streets about their economic sense, that will get the people watching.
Btw I know a really cheap way to make gold currency (if you have gold of course)..
I seem to remember Paul Watson from the late 80′s, early 90′s…
Isn’t he a Canuck?
I think he’s borderline insane…
but as the saying goes,
“Fools rush in where angels fear to tread”
So if he’s actually doing anything of value (philosophically speaking) then good luck to him…
Maybe we need more crazy people getting active in the world…
OPEN THE GATES TO THE ASYLUM!!!
LET MY PEOPLE GO!!!
Food for thought:
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/4e02aeba-6fd8-11de-b835-00144feabdc0.html?nclick_check=1
@snoot It is all about enforcement. Enforcing laws is massively expensive and counter productive. Mawmakers want you to obide (which can make sense). Traditionally if the whalers have enough could or the public is behind it the cost of miltary intervention can be ‘justified’ and some naval vessels go out and chase the seashepards or whoever away.
Equally if you’d challenge loggers in the forest you could see a military response (with or without public support) until it would become to expensive or politically untennable. Of course local rebels could be bribed to fight for less, or could turn to holding the forrest hostage.
Sadly I believe most animals have an inbuild mechanism causing lethargy if they percieve our cause to be lost. The sentence ‘save the whales’ is per definition defeatist and you lose a large part of the public that way..Betters say ‘Fight the seamammal murderers’
But I sense you make the sounds but would rather not worry about it..
it is funny to hear two t.v news presenters or journalists calling each other’ honey’ [max & stacy] wish that would happen more often on nightly news ,radio etc . i was on a domestic flight last week from sydney to melbourne and the plane was flown by a husband and wife team ,jetstar flight, they were both very professional pilots and we landed without incident.
“It always boils donw to the barged wire fence max touted as one of the important invertions. Barb wire fences are hard to raise on the open sea, hence the territory has no owner.”
@MotherEarth:
Interesting analogy: a line of demarcation between people is created by fractional reserve banking. We are depersonalized from each other by our personal accounts in banks. All will be open sea after the collapse?
Not to offend (sorry if I do) but IMHO the Bible starts man off on the wrong foot by giving man the option to name (nominalize) the animals and then the agenda to assert dominion (ownership) over the animals. Really homosapiens-centric and endemic to the thinking over here in America.
(Youri’s link to monkey-brained robots reminded me of politicians…)
@snoop diddy ,..i agree , in the land of ‘ happy banking ‘ [australia] private debt approaching 2 trillion dollars [not counting 300 billion dollars public debt] and likley 100 billion dollars junk corporate bonds[ [these figures are ABS own figures and minimum figures as referenced by Prof Steve Keen. ]
@MotherEarth:
I am ALL for protecting wildlife: here’s an idea. Why don’t we make the whales the judges at the ICC? They could wear wigs!
I wonder if the Japanese are really angry about this? There does seem to be a war going on over the oceans. The oceans and the planet don’t belong to man: we belong to the oceans and the planet!
and did the other side of this bet realise that snoop diddy has no life lol
@snoot Interesting take. But there is no jurisdiction in international waters, its the bigger boat wins, heck, if you wanted to you could claim your own country there..It always boils donw to the barged wire fence max touted as one of the important invertions. Barb wire fences are hard to raise on the open sea, hence the territory has no owner.
lol @Max,
and how legitimate do these views have to be?
Paul Watson is funded by the Dutch Lottery Tax, operating as an arm of the UN in behalf of the ICC.
http://joomla.seashepherd2.org/sponsors.html
Though his aims seem altruistic and necessary, the real issue is dominion of the open sea. Isn’t it?
More like a fly buzzing in the Jap’s ears than Walt Whitman to me…
Where does the Sea Conservancy derive its authority to police? When do actions become understood as an act of war?
ICC & Law Offices of Countryman & McDaniel (These are the guys that “stood behind” the Sea Conservancy group when their ship was impounded by the Canadian government for interference in seal hunting protocol…):
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/7/release-the-sea-shepherds-farley-moyat
How should money saved at the BBC be spent? http://link.reuters.com/wav68c
I”m trying to win a donut
the views on this has to be at 25000
by friday
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtIEGvtwHFI&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fmaxkeiser.com%2F&feature=player_embedded
Nice info from Robert Preston
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/robertpeston/2009/07/has_the_city_learned_anything.html
Maybe hes pissed off at his bonus freeze
the Sea Shepherds do a great job and are regularly in melbourne and hobart ,it is money well spent , [these people have real guts ,they don't just sit on their bums] , they also have a good understanding of the media and how it works ,not to trivialize the the really important work they do ,wiki entry:[ 'captain' paul watsons second wife was a former playboy model and was Sea Shepherd's one time director of operations] .anyway , kudos to sea shepherds and steve irwin. as for tv ? it is important that so called ‘fringe’ groups or ‘ideas’ go more ‘mainstream’ put into practice what we all know to be true, especially as this whole economic fiasco unfolds. the sea shepherds have showed us all the way forward.love those whales, wolves and all other animals ! ,love those sea shepherds too !
Goldman Reports Big Profit, Beating Forecasts
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/15/business/15goldman.html?_r=1&src=twt&twt=nytimes
@snoot Lol. Symbolism gone paranoid..
OOPS: wrong link! here:
http://flagspot.net/flags/int-ssi.html
Accidently linked the WHO. Which has an interesting flag anyway: facist leaves and Mose’s snake on a pole. (pretty domineering)
http://flagspot.net/flags/un-who.html
Sea Shepard’s flag: very pirate-inspired. Trident and shepard’s staff.
“Who saw it coming”:
http://ftalphaville.ft.com/blog/2009/07/13/61656/who-saw-it-coming-and-the-primacy-of-accounting/
@Rothshild The warrior was taken out for the time being. Nuclear test where done on a later date..Fines payed plae in comparison with the defence budget I assume. The boycot was aimed at NZ..
The media seems to be at war with itself at the moment in the UK. The Torygraph fired the first shot with the MP expense article – shutting democracy down for a couple of weeks, the Times ratified this article and the Grauniad\BBC have been playing catch-up ever since. Then, last week, the Guardian published the News international allegations, which the BBC too reveled in and MP’s then started coming back into view calling for regulations.
Now, the BBC is under attack for their pay, presumably in response to the way they aided the Guardian story which would have quickly faded from view if left to the Guardian alone.
At no time has a revelation been printed and these ‘news’ stories could have been written anytime in the last 5 years.
For example, MP expenses – was a secret, but the public new problems existed hence the initial call for an enquiry. NI hacks breaking the law with the help of the filth – no surprise, even Andrew Neil – ex-editor of the Times said his surprise was the scale of the activities, not that the activities happened. BBC execs get paid too much – has been a running joke since the seventies.
What is interesting to me is ‘who shoots next’. They are all establishment media outlets, I guess the question is which sector of the establishment has the upper hand today, and who takes it tomorrow. Meantime no actual news on the economy is being discussed or the wholesale theft of our basic rights.
Sea Shepard.. big shout goin’ out…. it is a dirty job, I am glad someone is there to do it. Respect.
predator to prey ratio @Mike,
the collective belief of individuals in a crowd that it won’t happen to them, it will happen to the other sheep but not them.
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Something to do with eyes at the side of the head for prey species and eyes at the front of the head for predator species too lol.
@Mother Earth
I always thought that the ‘French Approach’ regarding the Rainbow Warrior (Operation Satanique) backfired rather spectacularly…
I watched a German Shepard Dog stalking a flock when i was a kid, drove it off but IF the sheep had got together THEY could have driven it off.
They are usless, thus eaten.
QED
Mike
Max
When are you going to Fathom that the “Sheep” don’t want your help &guidance?
They are happy eating the grass, looking at the “Funny LARGE Sheep with pointed ears” looking at them in a funny way!
Mike
Some data off the Sea Shepherd site in this article:
http://www.seashepherd.org/news-and-media/news-090413-1.html
Three Hundred and Five Whales Saved by Operation Musashi
Japanese Whalers “Enraged” with Sea Shepherd
The Institute for Cetacean Research has released their 2008/2009 kill figures for their whale slaughter in the Southern Ocean. They slaughtered 679 Minke whales of their targeted 935 and they only took one endangered fin whale from their targeted 50 whales.
Sea Shepherd this last season has saved 305 whales from an agonizing death from the deadly explosive harpoons of the Japanese whaling fleet. The Japanese Fisheries Agency is blaming the failure to reach their quota on disruptions by the Sea Shepherd Conservation Society.
“This season’s catch was reduced as a result of the interference by protesters,” said Shigeki Takaya, a Fisheries Agency spokesman.
The Japanese whalers extended their whaling season by two weeks in an attempt to recover losses. Despite this, they took only 2% of their fin whale quota and 72% of their Minke whale quota. The estimated loss of profits is in the tens of millions of dollars. With costs increased due to security measures, the Japanese whaling industry needed to secure 700 whales to break even financially. They have failed to secure their required 700 whales…
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@max
It is reintroducing the Arena & Galdiators, but what if PW dies? Or one of the whalers. What is the yield of this spectacle? The approach it is wildy inefficient (look f.i. at how the french dealt with Greenpeace years ago).
Would you support production of f.i. Tuna Wars? Or Slave wars? Or War wars?
However it must be true that a media corporation could be international as well as viable, thus be n a par with the globalists while exploiting the interest for justice in action.
Maybe a new format for on the edge?
Stacy, here’s a site I like to visit for interesting news headlines:
http://www.strike-the-root.com/
Gold: “Where I Want to Be” – Monday 13th July 2009
This will be the sixth major credit expansion and contraction in the last 300 years. Following the third week in September, he believes all hell could break loose to the downside in the equity markets.
http://goldnews.bullionvault.com/gold_deflation_071320092
thanks @Max,
It’s no doubt there is a romantic notion that lures people to the story, reminiscent of a swashbuckling Boy’s Own Adventure. And he gets real, quantifiable results.
Note to Stacy
Stop Max smoking “weed” before tea.
@Mr Supergeek
Like said have my doubts about the BBC and that system is much different from the Netherlands cause we’ve got more broad casters with licences and if you want you can make a new broadcast compagny like what happened with the new Dutch BNN not so long ago. Fairly open sytem. BBC has been payed off to dupe the public in the fake 911 story:
BBC: “The 47 storey Salomon Brothers building close to the World Trade Center has also collapsed” BBC Reports Collapse of WTC Building 7 Early– TWICE http://tinyurl.com/dd2m9a
thanks for the article @marcus
You only need to look at the money supply chart for Australia to see personal debt must have skyrocketed during the commodity boom years.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Money_supply
And Howard/Costello were always boasting about what great shape the economy was in under them. They taxed us more and Costello the scoundrel sold off 2/3rds of our gold at around 300US/oz, just before Brown sold off some of UKs. And now we have Rudd who was boasting he was a fiscal conservative a year ago, suddenly, after a few G8 meetings etc with Brown, Obama etc, budgetting a record deficit so we can militarise against China, the same country that has agreed to buy our bonds for the deficit. Doubling our submarine fleet, no doubt to counter any ambition by China for aircraft carriers and influence in their important trade route in the Indian Ocean and the South China Sea. It’s all a bit looney tunes but the world keeps turning nevertheless.
What strikes me as interesting about Paul Watson is that he has successfully brought activism to television for the very first time.
This is something no other group has been able to do. Greenpeace has been successful getting onto TV but there is GP TV show that transforms both activism and TV in the way that PW does.
PW’s activism, as he has packaged it, is irresistible for TV execuatives and audiences that have been weened on “reality” TV. During that weening process the editorial punch of broadcasters and newspapers were destroyed on the alter of Wall St leaving behind an anarchistic news void that got filled up with shows that looked real, but were staged; reporters that were reporting from the front lines, but were embedded and questions coming from the WH press corps that were scripted by the WH.
Also during this time, online video gaming eclipsed the box office in terms of revenues and p2p file swapping killed the recording industry as we knew it.
Into the vacuum sails Paul Watson whose reality TV show is really real; whose TV show on Animal Planet is set up like an online game between Japanese Whalers and the Sea Shepherd but with real harpoons; and the press releases coming from the SS Steve Irwin remind anyone who remembers when the NYT used to report impartially of hardened, hard working, honest journalists covering important matters of the day.
Around this swirling rip tide of activism, TV and entertainment sits Captain Paul Watson. He steady gaze looking out over the horizon sees a world dominated by butchers and profiteers hungry for extinction even it means their own.
PW has a heart like the poet Walt Whitman. He understands the media business as well as Marshall McLuhan. He’s an activist’s activist willing to go the distance.
The whales are the message and Paul Watson hears them singing.
news story from australia , four in ten australians ‘ living on the edge .’ http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/07/14/2625702.htm?section=business
The banksters et al are frothing at the mouth for official interest rates and inflation to rise dramatically. They’ll describe it as an economic recovery and a great excuse to increase their salaries and bonuses even if they are taxpayer funded and/or well above the average scale anyway. And with high unemployment a great excuse to lower working conditions and salaries of their workers who should be offering virgin sacrifices to their employers in gratitude.
Al-Quaida (a.k.a USA) threatens to target China!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jul/14/al-qaida-threat-china-urumqi
Youri
“Not sure” what a luxury….if we in uk have any doubts about buying tv license we can look forward to going to prison(or can’t afford to pay then have a fine as well)……a monopoly with guaranteed tax payers money regardless of service or performance…sounds familiar.
A cartoonist who made a short funny video depicting how ecosystems work, and the transmission of disease through collapsed and healthy ecosystems alike, would get more done via Youtube than Paul Watson with his Sea Shepherd. I doubt the people eating sharkfin soup know what predator actually means or how ecosystems actually work. People have been trained to think in linear terms, all-or-nothing, literal inflexible sequencing, and of processes as objects, etc. All to make them better slaves.
I wonder why the billionaires running this mess don’t mind mass extinctions.
There are several words to describe that presenter, ‘twerp’ is one of them.
Yep, everybody is working for the gangsters banksters now but instead of going after them the media comes up with all kinds of distractions like the salaries of people working in the television business which exactly happened in the Netherlands too. Wonder if we got it from the Brits or they got it from us?
Soon everybody will be working for free and the gangsters gonna increase their bonusses even more but we don’t talk about that. Instead we’re going after all kinds of other gross eranings of people who got absolutely nothing to do with it. Whit the BBC I am not sure though?
Suzuki, Mitsubishi Urged to ‘FORGET AMERICA’ as Sales Slump http://tinyurl.com/labhz4
If I were peter I don’t think I would take it so softly. How dare he present Schiff’s opinion with a massive disclaimer that he has something to sell when others get favourable treatment.
The presenter got owned but I think next time a talking head asks him when he thinks the economy is going to turn around, he should say “when talking heads like you are out of a job and channels like CNBC employ journalists who can think for themselves and take to tasks men of business who can justify their excess wealth as a sign of a functioning free market economy”.
Apparently a lot of people who talk down Peter Schiff, especially those that treat him with disrespect get hounded by some of his fans. I can imagine he’s on a list somewhere.
BBC freeze bonuses……s’good but could do better…it’s interesting they trot out the same lines as the bankers…about pay and fear of talent going elsewhere….they are just anutha monopoly to me who use fear of prison to force people into submitting to cultural blackmail….
I’d go for the term Max coined, namely PDP, when I see that clip with Peter Schiff. He is right, as usual.
PDP = Paralytic Debt Poisoning
Morons keep believing we are in a state of recovery… morons ’til the end.
While I am sitting here in on the 19th floor in my office in Cape Town, I hear the rumblings on the street of the strikers of the 2010 (FIFO: Fit In Or Fuck Off) soccer World Cup stadium. Would they agree to a pay cut?
Peter kicked his ass!
Peter needs to get attacked as Prep for his run for office.
Mike
Dispelling the Doom-sayers
7/13/2009 Peter Schiff On CNBC Reports: Taking Aim At Peter Schiff
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gHIap-6q2E
Guess who the host is … LOL !
Al-Jazeera: US Afghan forces ‘bomb own base’
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJqBW34pqQY
@Max
I think the approach taken in whale wars is fair. European fishing fleets have been batteling it out on occasion (sometimes with naval protection). It all stems from the moronic chasing after profits gained from even more moronic and ignorant consumers funded by extrotionist bank loans.
Myopic focus on individual job security is the main cause of most environmental destruction. That is what corporations count on to get their work done (or slavery). At some point physical obstruction is the only effective method.
The distinction between verbally influencing and physically obstructing is drawn very strongly by many, but who benefits from that? Is there a real distinction between a (commercially motivated) law that is abusive (effectively turning police into gansters) and real gangsters acting on their own? Rationality is a huge passifier..
Obviously these days if you fart the wrong way you will be branded a terrorist instantly. I doubt that creates a natural state. But law enforcement has limits and law enforcers have a conscience and people can be courageous.
I think it is unwise to empower autorities more than absolutely necessary, or they may forget they are mere humans. this kind of initiative really bothers me http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8149043.stm nobody protests the implicit empowerment. What if they develop micro spy planes with lethal payload that fly and perch like a bird (http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/42390) ?
I think the world may end up being policed by armies of autonomous land arial and oceanic vehicles. Incurstions and breaches will be automatically rained on by smart ordinace, social exclusion etc. and thus AI will have taken over the world.
All this to allow the overprotective and ambitious to pillage the planet. Great.
How about this threat for breakfast http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=15756&size=A
Can we start an eco futures market (or does that exist already?)
@Bonuses suspended indefinitely for senior BBC executives
Hooray …. and why didn’t Obama do the same for the US banks ?