Stacy Summary: I love how polite Krugman states, “Goldman Sachs are scum.” And had to put Taibbi’s link to Max’s France 24 appearance. His comments are funny.
The Bush administration and Congress discussed the possibility of a breakdown in law and order and the logistics of feeding US citizens if commerce and banking collapsed as a result of last autumn’s financial panic, it was disclosed yesterday.
Making his first appearance on Capitol Hill since leaving office, the former Treasury secretary Hank Paulson said it was important at the time not to reveal the extent of officials’ concerns, for fear it would “terrify the American people and lead to an even bigger problem”.
Update:
Spammers now using Goldman Sachs name to spread sex video links! Here is a spam that was caught by my spam guard:

Goldman Sachs Sex Video Spam
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MUST WATCH @Mike Ruppert on Zbigniew Brzezinski Part 2 Of 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I65v_B5trGs&feature=related
On Page 40 :
” The 3 grand imperitives of imperial GEO-Strategy are to prevent collusion and maintain security dependance among the vassals; to keep tributaries pliant and protected; and to keep the barbarians from coming together…”
On page 95 :
” diminishing the ability of Russia to reassert the dream of the Soviet Union ….. to prevent Russia from asserting any control in the region , which we did … over the last decade , thanks to Goldman Sachs, the FED, the Harvard Endowment, the US Treasury , the World Bank, we looted 300 Bio$ out of the Russian Economy … “
@Mother Earth
Yes, AJ said this to the congressman but he was adamant he was talking about physical marshall law. It was a while back but I’m trying to fish out the MP3
AND FROM THE ARTICLE ABOVE–
“The Bush administration and Congress discussed the possibility of a breakdown in law and order and the logistics of feeding US citizens if commerce and banking collapsed as a result of last autumn’s financial panic, it was disclosed yesterday.”
@Phil
Incredible isn’t it? The Grand Chessboard was published in 1997– how prophetic. Who runs Washington again? I’ll give you a clue, He’s Obamas senior advisor.
The rats are leaving the ship,…tallyhoe!!
One senior banker told Here Is The City: ‘So let’s get this right. If I stay in the UK, I will get taxed up to the hilt, have to wait for a large portion of my bonus for years, and also have my privacy invaded, as details of my compensation is made public. Now, if I move to Asia, I’ll pay significantly less tax, will not have anywhere as much deferred compensation, and won’t be subjected to the fury of the angry mob every time details of my pay is made public. What time does the plane leave ? I’m off – this place is finished!’.
@Danny Yes, it seems these martial law meanings have both been used or implied…I’m not sure a logistics and food supply nightmare is averted though.
I’m to bussy with solar stuff, but I keep envisioning a great animation with Paulson, Bernanke and Geitner dancing and lipsyncing to this song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vl1UvbGkQAs
@Danny … “Mike Ruppert”
I downloaded the whole 15 part video … nice addition to reading the book.
The book says that he was originally a “Cop” and had to leave after he tried to prevent a Govt. cover-up on drug smuggling. He then became a journalist and book author.
In the Acknowledgements at the beginning , Catherine Austin-Fitts was the first name mentioned in the “thankyou list” … which for me means 100% credibility.
@ Stacy
I felt now was a good time to remember the Bankers Anthem.
Sorry, I can’t find that great cartoon version with Max’s voice in it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TYezSrzUUs
Better version of Bankers Anthem.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yge311sFhC8
Remember when we were sovereign nations and our own governments used to advise us,…not Dr Who, or Mr IMF,..slip sliding awaaaay
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/business/business-news/economic-recovery-will-be-lsquoslow-and-subdued-14414352.html
Bank of America makes two and a half billion profit second quarter,….and one of it’s biggest investors decided to stay put,….wonder why
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Global_Economy/KG18Dj03.html
@ phil & Danny – re: Mike Ruppert.
Mike Ruppert’s CIA and Drugs gives more details about his past. This is an amazing presentation.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7009998324250484369&ei=Vl5gStyTBsKF-Qadm8gd&q=cia+ruppert
I’m put off by his belief in Malthusian over-population but ultimately central belief in peak oil nonsense. Its interesting how that came around. Ruppert publicly took John Deutsh to task over the issue of the CIA’s involvement in drug trafficking http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4t3pl5Wxgyg that probably cost Deutsch a big job in Washington.
Matt Simmons, an oil industry insider and the face of the funding force behind the peak oil hoax (which the oil industry has made out nicely on) has ties to John Deutsch; they served on several boards together. Simmons got in Rupert’s ear and now Ruppert is a firm believer in peak oil. Is this John Deutsh’s revenge?
I know most of the people on here, like Max and Stacey, subscribe to peak oil theory. If you ever get the chance to watch Ian R Crane’s the “Peak oil: Myth of Reality” you should. He goes into this in greater detail about Ruppert and Simmons detail. Like Simmons, Crane was a former oilman. http://www.ianrcrane.co.uk/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=11
Peak Oil rests on the unchallenged idea that oil is a “fossil fuel.” If you were a Russian oilman you would laugh at this idea. But would the Russians know about oil? http://www.engdahl.oilgeopolitics.net/Geopolitics___Eurasia/Peak_Oil___Russia/peak_oil___russia.html
That said Mike Ruppert is genuine and brave. His life story is inspiring. He always challenged anyone to look into greater detail to what he says. I have and I don’t agree with him on these issues. His lecture opened my eyes when I stumbled upon it and because of that Mike Ruppert will always a hero of me.
My lunchtime headlines – enjoy over your ‘brought into work lunch’ of spam sandwiches.
Washington’s Dilemma: This Isn’t a Recession, It’s a Collapse
http://seekingalpha.com/article/148526-washington-s-dilemma-this-isn-t-a-recession-it-s-a-collapse?source=hp_mostpopular
Young hit by soaring jobless toll soars to record levels (aren’t revolutions the province of the young?)
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/young-hit-by-soaring-jobless-toll-soars-to-record-levels-1748280.html
Haven’t Heard About: Treasury Plan C and the $3.5 Trillion You Will Be Paying
http://www.mybudget360.com/the-doctrine-of-preemptive-bailouts-and-the-biggest-bailout-you-havent-heard-about-the-us-treasury-plan-c-and-the-35-trillion-you-will-be-paying/
Twitter Hack Raises Flags on Security
This, a few days after Twitter was declared essential for national security.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/16/technology/internet/16twitter.html?hpw
Americans Now Pariahs Of Foreign Banks
http://www.forbes.com/2009/07/14/banks-us-citizens-markets-equity-banks.html
from that earlier vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wVQ3_ZaYB4
Glenn Beck is such a pain but his researchers are pretty good at times.
if anyone’s interested, occasional live radio coverage from Iran:
http://www.epersianradio.com/
and twitter trending topic page, some links to todays, Fridays Prayers and events afterwards, decide for yourself which tweets are reliable etc:
http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23iranelection
@Heretic .. thanks for the links .. downloading now.
well I think it’s live radio coverage, the Friday Prayers were live on it so Im assuming it’s continued.
The over population myth comes from the lack of insight to human ingenuity,..maybe!
LOL,…..what a piss take,.
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=5167619n
Goldman Sachs in Talks to Acquire Treasury Department
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/andy-borowitz/goldman-sachs-in-talks-to_b_235153.html
I know you all love this guy, just to break the day or night up !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYIC0eZYEtI
@Heretic
I agree completely. I was completely a peak oil student but now I’ve chimed in on the abiotic oil debate. I’m really on the fence, but the fun is in finding out isn’t it?
France 24 vid update: 28,000 plus views. Up 5,000 views in a morning!
Who controls the US media…
THE CIA AND THE MEDIA
How Americas Most Powerful News Media Worked Hand in Glove with the Central Intelligence Agency and Why the Church Committee Covered It Up
BY CARL BERNSTEIN
http://www.carlbernstein.com/magazine_cia_and_media.php
“Now, people when I say that look at me and say, ‘What are you talking about, Joe? You’re telling me we have to go spend money to keep from going bankrupt?’” Biden said. “The answer is yes, that’s what I’m telling you.”
http://www.usagold.com/cpmforum/?p=172642
Got gold bitches?
@Mike2liverpool:
“I wish MAX would stay a bit cooler, he get his points across then.” This is for you than here from Moter Earth very nice interview. She’s bin in Iran too. Q&A: Janet Tavakoli
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WA20Am0pwtA
They always say that about Alex Jones too but I don’t agree. Don’t forget that not eveybody is like you, meaning that some people will fall asleep by a blatant truth brought in a (too) easy way like Janet in the interview above.
Secondly I have same as Max regarding very ourages matters, I say to myself, stay calm, stay calm, but when talking about these outrages matters I get very mad just on the spot which everybody should, acording to my point of view. But not everybody is like me.
Some people are better reached on the Max approach some are better reached on the Janet approach.
May I share an observation, that there has been a noticable shift in the tone of media coverage of the banking system since the media mogul conference hosted by former CIA director George Tennet a week ago. It seems a scapegoat hase been chosen. Even though it’s a blamewothy one, its eventual slaughter may make us forget to deal with the rest as well.
Perhaps the CIA hires ex bankers story was actually supposed to be read ‘bankers attempt to infiltrate CIA’..
Who’s running America ?
http://www.state.gov/secretary/rm/2009a/july/126071.htm
@ Adam…………………..Goldman Sachs in Talks to Acquire Treasury Department
Is this for real? Excuse my ignorance if the article is supposed to be a joke (I’m not familiar with that site) and bearing in mind nothing would surprise me anymore. But, if it’s not a joke then it should be front page news. Here’s a few bits from the article:-
In what some on Wall Street are calling the biggest blockbuster deal in the history of the financial sector, Goldman Sachs confirmed today that it was in talks to acquire the U.S. Department of the Treasury.
…………. the merger between Goldman and the Treasury Department is “a good fit” because “they’re in the business of printing money and so are we.”
The Goldman spokesman said that the merger would create efficiencies for both entities: “We already have so many employees and so much money flowing back and forth, this would just streamline things.”
Mr. Hestron said the only challenge facing Goldman in completing the merger “is trying to figure out which parts of the Treasury Dept. we don’t already own.”
WTF?
@Sharon,…..I like how they celebrated their earnings by roasting a pig over a pile of dollars,…….(Goldman),..hmmm
What was the name of that flu’ again?
Even Bill Orielly is taking on Goldman Sachs. For 2 shows in a row now, he has called them currupt low life
Here’s a good comparison to present events.
http://www.rotravel.com/History/The-Communist-Regime
Didn’t care much for Glenn Beck cause he was smiring the alternative media like AJS for instance on these coffins http://tinyurl.com/3f7hjs but this time he really hit it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wVQ3_ZaYB4
@ Sharon
Andy Borowitz is a comedien…truth in jest!
Andy Borowitz is a comedian and the author of “Who Moved My Soap? The CEO’s Guide to Surviving in Prison: The Bernie Madoff Edition.”
@Heretic
Don’t know why your allergic to peak oil.
Fields I worked in were 95% oil 5% salt water now,
30 years later, they are 5% oil 95% water.
It doesn’t matter a shit if the oil is not a fossel fuel it took
hundreds of millions of years to pool will take that long to refill. I know, never trust an oil company, but the cheap stuff is gone.
@ s klein………….Andy Borowitz is a comedien…truth in jest!
OK, now I feel like a complete plonker, I must have been half asleep when I read that. Thanks for putting me straight.
@zmoore .. ” peak oil ”
Actually, it’s difficult to know what to believe.
I have a PDF from the Uni Salzburg ( Sept. 2001 ) which deals with WW oil and what’s left.
They noted that the only “known” pure oil left in the world is in North Iraq ( what a coincidence ).
OTOH, if you read Lyndsey WIlliam’s book “The oil non crisis” ( which I did ) , he claims that there’s enough oil and gas in Alaska to keep the US running for the next 200 years ; and that the US Govt. has tried to keep this a secret etc.
@danny
great link to the glen beck wow he almost seemed sane at times…..Maybe we should all have a whip round and buy max a blackboard.
@ Sharon
No need to feel bad. It’s entirelly plausible and in fact a reality.
@zmoore
“It doesn’t matter a shit if the oil is not a fuel it took hundreds of millions of years to pool will take that long to refill.”
Well, exactly.
Oil could be created by ‘magic pixies’ – but if the damn pixies can’t make it fast enough to replenish reserves (that is, reserves with an acceptable EROEI) we’re still f*cked.
We’re not dredging tar-sands for the fun of it.
Anybody find jon stewart funny?
http://zerohedge.blogspot.com/2009/07/jon-stewart-takes-on-goldman-sachs.html
I did!
You know when GS’s defenders start smearing its critics as “anti-semites” they are guilty as hell.
http://www.alternet.org/blogs/workplace/141268/ludicrous:_matt_taibbi_accused_of_being_anti-semitic_for_goldman_sachs_article
@Paul Anderson
I did too!…Nice link….maybe worth posting again.