Stacy Summary: GATA took a look at our special summer documentary and had this to say . . .
But Keiser’s documentary may be sensational for getting an acknowledgement from the German central bank, the Bundesbank, that Germany’s gold reserves are actually in the custody of the United States. This is a detail the Bundesbank long has denied to others who have inquired and is potentially a matter of great controversy in Germany. It raises the question of whether the German gold reserves are actually intact at all or whether they have been used by the U.S. government as part of its long-time gold price suppression scheme or have been comingled and diminished with the gold reserves of other countries held in the United States.
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Who at the Bundesbank confirmed this? Please name!
It´s true, not many Germans are aware that thier gold might be in the USA.
It would be a lot of help, if Max Keiser could tell whom at the Bundesbank told him, that all the German gold is in New York ( i suppose at the NY Fed ).
@ Mini US
Anytime…. I just recently decided not to be silent anymore so if you have any other questions let me know… I just put out a video about the Brits….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArPZkULSnqw
@Daniel S.
Ssshhhh…You hit the nail on the head…the funk mob would say.. ‘spit don’t make babies’
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_JK2yv2U2I
@maxkeiser
as a fan and adam curtis and one of the people who posted liks to his stuff quite a while back with seemingly very little response…..just gotta say unless you have read all 23 vols of freuds work I wouldn’t put complete faith in one mans opinion or interpretation…please, please watch ‘century of the self’ if you haven’t seen it but I would suggest as with most stuff keep an open mind.
@vagabond
I actuallky designed some little lapel badges for the ‘MK Ulltras’ a while back but no takers…don’t think anyone realised they can be be worn on the inside of the lapel.
@New Era Begins.
Great viral video, thanks.
Also great explanation re gold.
I foolishly wrote that when gold fell sharply (only to settle after bedtime for me). Will I never learn. Its just gravity of some form or another.
Its almost like when one is expecting something one looks for it too much.
Thanks for the clarification. I promise I won’t sue
Dead Cat Bounce – What a description! Meeeooowwww.
@Sharon:
Excellent quotes and points! Don’t you think the elite WANT chaos and not an orderly opposition? Look to this protocol for hints as to tactics used by both sides in the health care battle:
http://www.crossroad.to/Quotes/communism/alinsky.htm
Chaos won’t work for anybody but the elites! Whose ideas are being forwarded by shouting or the punching?
@Max
I agree with what you say but don’t you think that many of these people are just plain angry and as they’ve been taught that their congressman is supposed to be representing them in gov. they naturally assume that they must direct their anger at him/her in order to get change. It seems that most people turning up to these townhall meetings are not an organised group as such but rather angry citizens who feel that they need to tell someone with influence how they feel. In other words, for the majority it is a natural reaction. Now clearly this is being manipulated in order to show these people up, the usual divide and conquer strategy. How else can normal, everyday people show their frustration? I accept that this will be twisted to look like something it isn’t and therein lies the danger, as you say. The media has already jumped on that bandwagon which is why I thought that call from Leah was interesting because at least it shows that for many it is about wanting the change they were promised. Your point of course is correct because these people are aiming their anger in the wrong direction; they fail to see what is the real cause of their problems. If they listened to you they would know. Education, education, education as that evil pillock who used to run this country used to say.
@ Mini US
Gold didn’t complete it’s inverse head and shoulders and so now it’s getting hurt. However, the dollar was up over 2% (with aftermarket) on Friday and gold really didn’t get slammed comparatively. This is so because a lot of countries announced that they wouldn’t be selling much gold in the near future.
Hypothetically: I’m not in the business of being liable for advice (stupid laws). The truth is that the dollar is poised to make a dead cat bounce after the drubbing it’s received the past few months. Gold’s not really going to go up significantly until the dollar resumes it’s downward spiral.
Gold will finally EXPLODE once you see a few days when the stock market AND the dollar are down on the same day. That should be the buy signal for everyone.
I’m really watching China’s stock market. Don’t forget that MILLIONS of people starved to death under Mao and you don’t loose that mentality very quickly. For the first time China has flooded the nation massive amount of liquidity and the market is up ca. 100% since March. WOW. Can you say bubble? The mentality of people who were starved out a few decades ago that now have a lot of stuff is generally a bit…… nervous.
http://realdealfinancial.blogspot.com/2009/07/china-stockmarket-down-5.html
@Phil
Thanks for that. I think my short videos are a great way to get the message out. Americans must have a sprinkle of Hollywood everywhere or their brains seem to shut down.
I’ve gotten 6000 hits in a week on these vids! I expected to get MAYBE get a thousand. I’m thinking that is pretty good, but without a comparison I don’t know.
I’m trying to do video’s from Max’s themes, so this week I’m going to dredge up some good ol’ prison gulag planet stuff. OH YEA!!!
Encouragement helps…. I’m going to do 5 a week (which is no easy task). Go Max and Stacy!
sharon
i don’t think this vid gets at the core issue.
‘golf shirts’ as i call them, the successors to black shirts and brown shirts are riling up the people and tapping into their anger. This is classic propaganda 101 stuff that we saw in the 1930′s in Germany – based on the persuasion techniques worked out by Freud.
I recommend to all – please watch or re-watch “The Century of Self” the excellent UK documentary on the role psycho analysis has played in the creation of propaganda, public relations, marketing and focus groups.
These town hall meetings are focus groups held by progagandists looking to set themselves up as demoagogues of America’s new extremism that will completely bypass punishing the bankers but instead, attempt to scapegoat the poor.
These public riots are a way to direct people’s anger away from the culprits who engineered the financial collapse for their benefit.
If people think that their ‘anger’ is being ‘heard’ their sub-conscious mind feels satisfied enough to continue ignoring the facts seen and understood by the conscious mind.
America paid trillions in reparations to the banks and got NOTHING in return. The disgrace, humiliation, and shame of this open theft and humiliation must find an outlet as it is doing at these public meetings. Unfortunately, this is just more stage craft by the banks/insurance companies who are adding additional insult and additional injury to the masses in the US who are slowly, and way too late… waking up.
“In the beginning of a change, the patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated, and scorned. When his cause succeeds however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot.”
- Mark Twain
Re: The townhall protests. This call is excellent:-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkb7nWq78gw
@aNewEraBegins .. “Healthcare, Ron Paul, and Captive Americans – Stacy Herbert and Max Keiser”
I was the first to recommend it .. !
Very good !…. actually commented a few days ago to you , which you answered as well !
@Phil
That’s a great question. Actually the European Coal and Steel Community (now known as the EU) started out as a way to monitor whether countries were arming up for war (gotta have coal and steel to fight). So you are thinking along the right lines. Besides the EU…there were a lot of ‘watch the Germans’ laws passed after WWII. The Germans were happy to comply with the wishes of the Americans because of the Marshal Plan.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Coal_and_Steel_Community
As far as the Gold laws….. I’ve never heard of that, but I think we all know that a lot of international gold agreements are still in the realm of gentleman’s clubs so it’s definitely possible. The real problem in finding it is that Germans missed out on the whole ‘Internet’ thing and still aren’t very electronic. People are still making ‘great discoveries’ after spending a month in the library! I’m going to Germany on business in about a month or two and a friend of mind has a job at the Bundesbank, so if my internet research doesn’t yield anything I may have to have a few drinks and see if that loosens her tongue.
The Germans are very secretive about their gold…. lessons learned I suppose.
BTW: Check out this viral video of Stacy I made. It got 2000 hits yesterday….. it’s just good inspirational stuff!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUF1mcvVUTs
I’ve just been reading a post on another site in which they are discussing whether or not America is about to have a revolution. Apparantly it only takes 3% of the population to get the ball rolling:-
Fidel Castro took a whole country by starting his revolution with 82 men…which grew as he gathered the support of the population…
How many would be required in the US today?
It was said that less than 5% of the population was active in the American Revolution.
China has the largest Army of 1.5 million, then India with 1.2 million and then you have America at least 85 million gun owners, if only 10 percent show up you are looking at an 8.5 million man militia. Where is the US govenment going to get enough troops to handle that.
Cliff High said in one of his interviews that mathematically it would take 65 million troops to garrison USA and that statistically they would hold it for a year or less.
Japanese leader Tojo once said that the reason Japan never invaded the mainland of the United States was because “there would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.”
Conversely, the last thing Federal snoops would have, if they had any choice in the matter, is a thousand different small phantom cells opposing them. It is easy to see why. Such a situation is an intelligence nightmare for a government intent upon knowing everything they possibly can about those who oppose them.
“If every person has the right to defend–even by force–his person, his liberty, and his property, then it follows that a group of men have the right to organize and support a common force to protect these rights constantly.” —The Law. Frederick Bastiat Paris, 1850.
http://www.louisbeam.com/leaderless.htm
@aNewEraBegins .. ” German Gold ”
I’m just wondering about this !
My London Bank-trader friend from ca. Yr. 2000 told me that the German Bonds must be cleared through London.
This was done in order to keep a “clear view” of what the Germans were doing with their money ( post WW2 ) ; just in case !!
So maybe the same type of “agreement” ( probably imposed by NATO ) was arranged for German Gold ?
i.e. they must store it outside the country where everyone can see it and keep track !
Seems probable IMO.
A friend of mine ( ex-CEO of U. Carbide ) was a freefall expert as a hobby ( ex-SAS ). He actually got NATO to change the law that stated : “only NATO troops are allowed to parachute over Germany ” so he could start a freefall club.
So there are still a lot of these old post-WW2 laws hanging around.
.. and maybe “German Gold storage” is still there – i.e. if it existed at all.
JMHO FWIW
UK official confesses role in Iran riots
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article6788611.ece
@sharon , i do not know much about the likes of eustace mullins but from the little i have read it is enough . it seems to me that in england and america there are many people, usually white alienated males asocial type males that have a fascination for nazism and that kind of thing perhaps people like that are just afraid of taking their place in the real world and secretly wish to be german or something like that take refuge in this kind of rubbish perhaps also they secretly wish for a right wing revival dictatorship of somekind where they can get to wear snappy uniforms. i do not know about the big ideas that eustace mullins talks about and claims he makes about life in the camps being such fun etc but i do know a Doctor [Vera ] who writes in a very Beautiful sueterlin Script ,Vera is 80 years and a very dear person who has spent her entire life helping others who lost her entire family [mother father 2 brothers ] in the war in a camp in serbia during the war . originally from Austria her family lost their house, then her family . Vera escaped from the camp as a child and lived with partisans. Vera is a very Beautiful , gentle person and has suffered greatly and the writings of the likes of Eustacre Mullins makes a mockery of the suffering of people like her . i have spent several years trying to get some kind of settlement for Vera via the General Settlement Fund Austria from Austrian Parliament , an almost impossible task due to limitations etc the short time that compensation was made available meant that most people were not aware that compensation was available until due date had expired but it allowed the Austrian government to say the compensation had been offered, appalling. the amount had she been successful was truly pitiful.i have photographs names dates etc of Veras family to be able to verify what happened . someone like eustace mullins is a disgrace to humanity . i hope that no one ever has to go through what Vera and her family went through. as someone who is of german background [mother] i can tell you that after having lost 2 world wars no one in germany has a desire to lose a 3rd..
After reading over the German news for a bit (went to grad school there) to see if someone picked up on Max’s video, it seems like their main stream media doesn’t really discuss WHERE the gold actually is. In the line from Focus they say:
The German bank holds around 3400 tons of gold in their reserves.
Die Bundesbank hält rund 3.400 Tonnen Gold in ihren Währungsreserven.
They fail to mention where that gold actually is!
I’ve only been able to find a few examples of Germans being aware that their gold is in New York and they’re all blogs and forums (usually from a few years ago).
Don’t worry though…. I’m spreading the word as quickly as I can!
Ouch!
Gold getting beaten up!
@MotherEarth:
Isn’t Taliban and Drug Lords oxymorons?
I’ve just come in,…and this is off the cuff,.Re: prison release
If the institution of prison is really a business (cheap labour) and the businesses outside of the prison are going bust. Is this not why the dudes are getting released?
@MotherEarth:
I agree. The police want to tag the criminals and forget them, not pay for their health care or their upkeep. Rehabilitation is a joke.
Don’t now what you think about Eustace Mullins but what he has written re: The Holocaust is very interesting. Even more interesting is a current lawsuit filed by a group of Germans against Israel:-
“……….Because of the nature of the dictatorship maintained by the force of the American military occupying army, in which no German is allowed to question the Myth of the Holocaust, the German patriots believe the only way to expose this conspiracy on behalf of Israel is to sue the United States for the return of all the “Holocaust” payments to Israel, with interest. This demand will soon be brought before the World Court. Meanwhile, Americans must decide what action to take to salvage their collapsing economy from the demands made on it by the insatiable Israeli power. Only the complete exposure of the Holocaust hoax will free our government officials from their commitments to ever increasing payments to the State of Israel.”
By Eustace Mullins
http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/history/zionism/news.php?q=1235165892
This was also followed up on here:
http://www.worldgoldbook.de/blogs/teamblog/deutsche_goldreserven_lagern_in_new_york.aspx
@Mother Earth
It was the CIA who introduced crack into America. It is the ptb who are the worlds’ drug runners. So the same people who are behind banking fiasco are also behind the worlds’ drug problems. This IS the mafia! They just got a bit more organised.
Why are they mentioning it now – dunno, maybe another justificatin to add to the list for staying in Afghanistan?
@sharon
Maybe, but if I where the US and I wanted domestic control, I’d do what they say they will. After all, drugs is just a means to extract wealth from the US. It’s side effects are more annoying than those of the banking cartel that is pretty good at it already. Besides, imagine the dollar collapsed and all US addicts going cold turkey at the same time. Crackheads rarely own gold. It took them rediculously long to decide this, why would they if they didn’t mean it?…But I could be wrong..
‘Phil……….the ‘Downing Street memos.
Just finished watching. What a strange world we live in. Seems to me that I should be able to pass those along to whoever is conducting the next inquiry (white wash) with a covering letter saying: Here we have all the evidence we need in order to indict Bush & Blair – no need for an inquiry because the evidence is here is black and white! So let’s save the taxpayer some money and just hand this over to the crown prosecution service so they can arrange a court date – done deal!
Bear in mind all the corporate media know about this but as usual they are taking the p*ss!
“Britain had “sleepwalked into a surveillance society”. ”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/lawandorder/6001357/A-request-to-snoop-on-public-every-60-seconds.html
@Sharon
Right.
Looks like the US want to ‘clean up the drugs’ in Afghanistan, the same way they are cleaning it up in Colombia and Mexico.
@Mother Earth……………I think this is good news, the US army finally targeting the (drug) head of the snake..
The headline to the article you posted states: US to target ‘Afghan drug lords’
So does this mean they are targetting themselves and Britian?
@Phil
Maybe I’m naive, but if you as a government can print whatever money you need, and you risk total collapse of society due to criminal pressure and you also risk waekening your army and rendering them unfit for real battle there is a strong incentive to kill some flies. The govt may want to gain power, but it is not suicidal (as opposed to the last admin).
The prisoner release sounds like offloading a lot of cost. These people won’t get health insurance on the outside. Quit heartless.
@All … hope you watched those two videos “The Downing Street Memo”
And Downing St. supports Blair as EU President ?
Is that a sort of promotion within the parasitic ranks or what ?
@Danny … ” I think its just a reflection of the breakdown in society.”
Yes, due to far too much “government” !
The parasitic Govt. establishment has gotten far too big such that there is no more blood left to suck from the host … us !
@Phil
Granted its a bit of a generalisation but read the first article. Sure people are being realised who has business in there in the first place but all the same, some bad people are coming out.
This is happening here too in my own little town in Ireland – prisoners being realised because the prisons have no room for them – I think its just a reflection of the breakdown in society.
@Danny … ” California told to prepare massive prisoner release”
40,000 – 150,000 to be released due to health problems in prisons.
Maybe they shouldn’t have been there in the first place ?
( criminalisation of minor.offenders )
Actually , I am pleased for them.
Only hope they have enough money to be able to feed themselves !
@Max & Stacy
Any chance you can get this guy on your show after the summer.
Ed Steer of Casey Research.
Here he talks about manipulation in prec. metals markets and why keeping prices down, etc. maybe he knows about German gold.
http://www.kereport.com/WeekendSpecial/WS053108-1.mp3
I read the following (translated) from a swedish newspaper in january this year (taken from Dagens Nyheter), actually quite funny given the situation in the US.
“Deficits are no threat against the americans, since they are the only ones in the world that can finance their deficits by printing money”
This is how deranged the view on fiat currency has become, EVEN IN THE DAILY NEWS in Sweden.
Source:
http://www.dn.se/DNet/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=577&a=879249
German parliament demand “Highway Rules(Law)” for the Internet.
Kanzleramtschef fordert “Verkehrsregeln im Internet”
http://www.heise.de/newsticker/Kanzleramtschef-fordert-Verkehrsregeln-im-Internet–/meldung/143273
Suggesting that the “Chaos” could end in disaster !
Morning y’all…
Hundreds Hurt in 11-Hour California Prison Riot
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/10/us/10prison.html?hp
AND
California told to prepare massive prisoner release
http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSTRE57406720090805
UK risks a Japan-style lost decade, BoE will warn
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/6001261/UK-risks-a-Japan-style-lost-decade-BoE-will-warn.html
I think you’d better check this out guys – Paulson and Goldman
@Bush & Blair
The Downing Street memo Pt.1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Em6pY3DfFbM
The Downing Street memo Pt.2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMHIiYmpXmU
@Mother Earth … ” I think this is good news, the US army finally targeting”
It would be if it was to be believed !
Me? : just PR for the MSM-readers.
I think this is good news, the US army finally targeting the (drug) head of the snake.. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8192671.stm
Of course you’d want the drugs supply to the US to stop, so the funding of criminal cartels and the fighting over its sale will be limited. Mabey the Obama administration is not involved in the coordinated whitewashing activities alluded to by Jim Willie..
@ Stacy, Max and Vinny.
Re: German gold in USA.
Thanks for that.
That is amazing. Is that from after WWII?
Sorry, never heard of it before – must live under a rock apparently
Anyone know what the US response is to “We want out gold back”?
@frances snoot … ” War a year later in Georgia? ”
The PTB looking to stimulate a war !
Notice that ( of course ) their mobiles were confiscated; easier to brainwash like “shoot shoot shoot, don’t be afraid” !
Reminds of the time before WW2 started.
The Germans were actually ( and honestly ) of the opinion that war will not happen , and that the threat of Hitler’s military machine would be enough to force agreements to be reached.
It was as much of a shock to the Germans as it was to the polish when the war was declared … by falsifying a polish attack on a German border – as is well known.
@Mini US – yes, they confirmed it to us; at the time, we didn’t realize that it was something that many like GATA had been trying to confirm with the Bundesbank; they told us merely in passing; Max then proceeded to confirm this fact with them three times as he was shocked to hear that they would have America hold their gold for them
Paulson’s Calls to Goldman Tested Ethics http://tinyurl.com/mokb4c
@Paul Anderson
I think the whole American society is build on the principle “If you can’t make it, fake it.” That includes having gold, the banks having any money , unemployment figures, etc…etc…etc…maybe even the moonlanding.
The only thing real in America is Holywood cause we know they fake it
@frances snoot
My little research work; THE GEORGIA FILES FINAL COMPACT Achronologic http://tinyurl.com/lnd5nx
Keiser already posted a link stating that GERMANY wanted their Gold back from the United States
“The Germans have demanded that gold bullion held in US custodial accounts be returned to their owners, with physical gold shipped back to Germany.” from Golden Jackass 28th May 2009
http://news.goldseek.com/GoldenJackass/1243519200.php
maybe Jim Willie knows something we do n’t.
I can’t remember the last time I watched anything on telly…by all accounts this docudrama about spanish fluis quite well made….
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00lz31y/Spanish_Flu_The_Forgotten_Fallen/
War a year later in Georgia?
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=14692
This is amazing.
People actually fighting to pay more for already overpriced housing!?
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25906783-5013404,00.html
@mini
suppression is a big word …and it’s eveen bigger with two ‘p’s….sorry couldn’t resist.it.
Is this German Gold in US custody actually confirmed?
GATA juts quotes Max’ doco who said that no one would talk to him.
Confirmed is a very big word, but it would be interesting to know more. Especially if they still have it. Why is it in US custody?
Custody is a big word too. Doesn’t that mean that they are the Custodian, ie responsible for it?
No doubt that is going to be difficult as ‘supression’ is also a very big word.
@youri
I’ll be back….I got this is ok..glug..am in bath right now..gotta go!
http://www.thetradersden.org/forums/showthread.php?t=68687&highlight=dr+john
that was bilderberger. we need an edit option for comments.
So mandelson is temp PM in the uk, total biderberger who was on holiday with the rothchilds at the time, dam can it get any worse.
@Mr Supergeek
TnX for the clearification sort of cause I lost track of what was going on either.
Yep, I am a big fan of Johnny Winter even saw him live in Amsterdam years ago. Not much public cause somehow he’s not well known here. Oh man this man can play, realy amazing. But my over all music taste is very diverse examples: Like Vangelis, Jean Luc Ponty, Andreas vollenweider but also Deep Puple or alternative Cocteau Twins….
@steven uk
I agree wholeheartedly- Tarpley hasn’t let me down once.
Look who running Britan:-
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article6789386.ece
Mike
@ anything but green. Until now, I have not read a comment that you have posted here that has not hit the spot. Having read most of Tarpley’s books and as a regular listener of Tarpley’s Weekly radio show, your comments, for once, are well wide of the mark.
Your assertion that Webster Tarpley is a ‘globalist’ could not be further from the truth. He argues that the nation state in the post WWII era delivered prosperity & growth unrivalled in human history. He has often remarked “The nation state works, why change it?” His 1999 book (recently republish) “Surviving the Cataclysm,” not only predicted the havoc that the derivatives bubble would cause but it was almost a 1000 page argument against globalisation. He has not been associated with the rather quasi-cultic LaRouche movement for many years. (That said; the LaRouche Movement recently asked what I am sure you will agree is a very salient question. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ho-0SHFEgGo This is another great point made by Larouche http://www.larouchepac.com/node/10018. I have not heard Tarpley arguing for LaRouche’s Global Credit Policy; which I assume you are eluding too. )
Again, I have listened and watched a number of Tapley’s presentations on 911. I have never heard him claim he discovered the drills on 9-11. He does however claim that his theoretical model of false flag terrorism of which drills and exercises form a pivotal part; is uniquely his model.
Tarpley argued before even Obama won the Democratic nomination that Obama was a Jimmy Carter retread, a puppet of Wall Street and Brzezinski. He often stated, “A Vote for Obama is a vote for Wall Street,” and ultimately 21st Century fascism that is far more potent because Obama has left wing cover. With the merger between the FIRE sector and the government complete and Obama’s goons current beating people up at healthcare town hall meetings, again his warnings seem eerily correct. His understanding of Geo-Politics is also compelling, again predicting correctly before the American elections, the build of troops in Afghanistan in the guise of attacking Pakistan.
He is also fiercely anti Malthusian http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZdiTVQhGWc Here is a great article written by Tarpley on the origins of Malthusianism which you may find interesting http://american_almanac.tripod.com/ortes.htm
@Francis Snoot: WOW!! Coral Springs is just jump street from my door…FYI Burger King was mandated to clear their grills each day @ 2 pm…those burgers were sometimes placed on a tray near the dumpster ( Albaquerque NM) for the homeless( 1995 )…ate six whoppers at once..big mistake…HA!!!
Dumpster diving isn’t new in the USA….and with organized pantries running short nationwide…it may be the wave of the future( maybe even fore me)…
Way to save money on groceries:
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/localnews/content/local_news/epaper/2009/08/09/0809freegans.html
@youri
“Hello cutie pie..one of us is in deep trouble” arnie (Running Man)
cheers for your humorous comments coz, I reall pissed myself ..they are really funny when I read them in an austrian accent…as for me sorry was a crap joke I don’t mind admitting that! I didn’t even understand your comments…as is often the case…..it was late…sometimes things get lost in translation but I’m sure you are used to that….but hey you gotto do what you gotto do….hey just one thing do you look like johnny winter just curious?
http://www.cafepress.co.uk/rawilson.1660245#
@frances…………you could you know, I just checked. lol.
Definition of speel:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=speel
(#3)
@Richard@Latitude30N:
Put that speel to a beat and you’ve got yourself a song!
We could call it “all in the family”.
@Richard latitude…..Yeh!……..(sigh)
@Rasta
Aren’t people like planets, first they think they are the middle of the universe, then they decide the circle a sun and later on they consider themselves part of a moving milkey way ad infinitum..
You think you’re a democrat, then you recognize you are a pawn in a on party game that itself amounts to little more than brittish tax collectors to the higher glory of an invisible banker hierarchy etc. ad infinnitum..
Eventually eveybody will recognize they are just bouncing around balls that where in play before they where born, and will be in play after they are dead. If nobody played the game would be over, but it is just to much fun..
@Rasta:
No s@#t Sherlock. Take a class vote: I’ve ragged on Bush also. In fact, I think Clinton is the linch-pin for the statist machine we all see coming.
I appreciate your concern though!
@Youri Carma: No way..you’ve got to be kidding….swine flu mutates and the first vaccination is useless on subsequent cases…
@francis snoot: Well Hill is CFR; and Bill is only a Trilateral member..he was hand chosen as prez by the late Dorothy Harriman, who was then appointed Amb to France before she died…Yes that wife of former NY Gov.Averil Harriman ( also Brown Bros, Harriman that Prescott Bush was so involved with pre WWII –Trading with the Enemies Act conviction.etc…)…do you see the connection now?? Ol’ Barbara Bush calls him her “son”….(Internet rumors were that he was a bastard son of Ol’ Arkansas Gov.Winthrop Rockefeller)….not so certain about that…Folks we have a criminal cabal leading this country..and who exactly is Barack Hussein Obama?? ( another internet rumor…his mother worked for Tim Geithner’s father @ Ford Foundation ) and on and on…What was it Mr. Foster was concealing when he mysteriously died in the WH??? And let’s not forget that Freddie Mac COO who committed suicide @ home…stress??!!!…On the Bagdad airport tarmac in 2003: $6 billion in hundred dollar bills=144pallets 5 feet high….Bernie’s heist would take 1440 pallets if in $100 bills!!!!!!!!!!! Folks these guys are not kidding…they’re hauling off everything including the dishes!!!!!!! Hell they’re having couriers carry $134.5 billion in treasury bills around in a brief case!!! Wake up!!!!!It doesn’t matter how much the FED monetizes….so why not give average Joe citizen a break????? JUBILEE NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Whoever’s making T-Shirts…I offer that idea…no charge!!!!!
@Rasta…………….I think we are all aware it goes back to Reagan but it doesn’t matter coz he’s just the front man and the people behind the front men go back a long, long time. Thing is, we are where we are and so there’s a tendency to focus on the guy who aint’ putting it right now!
why does Yahweh need an increase in exports through Shekel devaluation? Isn’t he a supply side laissez faire freak?
does this mean Milton Friedman is in hell? lol.
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-08/07/content_11843707.htm
@Frances
something tells me that you’ve been deluding yourself that this all started with Obama. This fascist/corporatist take over of the USA started with Reagan and has now morphed into totalitarianism thanks to the the polyarchical party structure.
if you’re under some idiot fallacy that this all started on jan 21st, 2009?….then you need to get far away from here.
@frances snoot
Ahaaa! Bockverbrenntebrantmisst!!!
WAY TO GO MAX !!!
STICKIN’ IT TO THE MENSCH !!
Witzerscheelennipshumpoop
My German translation for we are so screwed.
(I was born in Michigan, sorry)
Dutch advice on Mexican flu: ‘Just sit it out’ http://tinyurl.com/m57sp6
P.S. There even have been “Mexican Flu Parties” in Europe by people who want to get the flu and get it over with.
@Phil:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Totalitarianism
Everything within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state.
Sounds like Obamaland.
@Witweverbrennungsverein …
Hey, isn’t the Internet great , here’s a link :
Explosiv – Der heiße Stuhl
It was on this show, so it was only ca. 20 years ago !
… “Talkshow-Provokateur enttarnt wurde, und Hans-Peter Willing, Gründer des “Vereins zur Witwenverbrennung”. Häufiger wagte sich das Format auch an Politisches:”…
http://www.wunschliste.de/3311
@frances .. “not to work”
The Germans are already way up front.
The new laws say that health-insurance is mandatory, either private or state – you choose.
I know some people who , if they pay the required minimum, they can’t afford to eat !
The rates are high here ( ca. 14% of gross ) with a minumum of 300 Euros IIRC. I myself was paying ca. 800 Euros per month some 10 years ago. The rates in the UK are peanuts in comparison .
I laughed at a recent UK headline where they reported on 400 dentists that were earning over 300,000 GBP. Excuse me, but that is an average here from most dentists I know ( 5 friends of mine are dentists ). On the GP side, the deal is much tougher for some reason. Many GPs are giving up private practice due to earnings some 20 Euros per hour on avg.
An old girlfriend of mine who worked in the State Med. Administration some 20 years ago, got so many tax-free perks that she financed her new Gold GTI alone with those perks !
The problem here is that the “state administration” takes the lion’s share ofthe money before the doctors or hospitals see anything.
It was reported on German TV some 20 years ago that ca. 50% of the medical rates that people pay go down for the administration of the system “alone”.
Another dentist friend of mine founded the “Burn the widows Ssociety” ( Witweverbrennungsverein ) some 25 years ago. The idea was that German girls always married dentists for their money, and these guys normally died too young !
@Phil
We need a “tell the government to bugger off” option.
@Phil
The only way to opt out of The Plan is not to work.
What will the id card look like? Real ID?
unbelievable
Little gems from the Health Care Bill
Anyone seen this yet ?
Here’s the summary :
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2300451/posts
The full PDF :
http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=111_cong_bills&docid=f:h3200ih.pdf
Thx to kazoo@IV-Precious Metals
http://www.investorvillage.com/iv2/smbd.asp?mb=144&mn=28378&pt=msg&mid=7723870
@Richard@Latitude30N:
Thanks again! How interesting: I never knew about the CFR/Trilaterial thingy.
@sharon
Well, it was ment as a practical joke a little bit but the message is true. It’s about the youth having the future and they’re the ones giving me hope. At least some of them who are eager to think for themselves and find info on the internet like many do nowadays.
@Youri….can I just say thank you for your previous post (previous topic) in which you made it clear that it’s about the right of the kids coming up. All the psycho analysis undertaken by other posters as to why some people are in tin hat mode and then you come along and boom! got in one! This is what it’s all about and if people don’t understand that then they may as well join the ignorant masses (who do most definitely exist!). Our chilldren deserve the chance to freely express thejmselves and not live in an open air prison and if that is being threatened then all the passion in the world is justified in my view.
@francis snoot: I forgot to reply to the Clinton/Korea journalistsgate question: so here it goes….Hill and Bill are high ranking CFR/Trilateral members….Bill is tied in with Bush 41 and has been duly rewarded….even after the Monica incident…The global oil cartel is somewhat equally (?) divided among past presidents; and Bill as you might remember is a Riadi (Indonesian oil) family favorite…so in some respect as with the Tsunami committee he headed..he somehow has responsibility for actions in SE Asia..also Al Gore’s employees were held…Ms Lu is the sister of actress Linda Lu..of Charlie’s Angels fame…so I suppose great pressure was placed upon him to venture to N.Korea..with or without Obama’s visible support….anyway that’s my take..glad he didn’t give away any more nuclear material as he did in 1994……….or did he???????
Is there a good reason why Germany stores its own gold in a foreigner country in the first place?
India was looking for gold too I remember so the Bottems Brown Up gold well could have gone to India. They where desperate for cheap gold to prop up their Jewelry Industry. So, if they got the gold from Browns Bottem they made a very good deal.
Regarding the ol ties between India and Bottem Britisch I wouldn’t be surprised if they were the buyers.
I know that the gold China bought before was NOT bought on the International market. That’s at least what they’ve said cause they didn’t want to disturb the International goldmarket they said.
But with latest sells of Bottems Up Brown and later the IMF they well could be the buyers?
I also hear about Goldselling like Browns Bottem but also the IMF; IMF to sell gold in central bank pact, official says http://tinyurl.com/nl38s2
Max & Stacy Who are the buyers? And does Germany is trying to get the gold to Germany?
and on the 4th Anniversary of the GoldRush21
http://www.gata.org/goldrush21
Gold to Oil ratio?
15:1 ?
hmmm…
The videos on that site actually support what Max was saying re: Brown’s Bottom
Synchronicity?
@Phil
I believe the germans askd for repatriation and then Obama went to Germany. Was it Dubai that asked repatriation of their gold from London?
Correction ‘auf New York!’. Of course there is no guarantee the gold is in New York, gold is gold.
It may be that (because Greenspan understood the significance of gold in wartime) the US has actually been buying all the gold sold by the countries presuaded to do just that. The US has had no reason to sell gold imho, maybe somebody can explain why they would to me?
@Stacey .. all credit to Max, but I actually posted over a year ago that the Bundesbank Gold was stored in NY .
I can’t remember where I read it .. but it was a serious link IIRC.
Also, IIRC , wasn’t there some news about repatriating it recently !
I thoughtr there was a request to get the Gold to Germany?
@Richard@Latitude30N:
Smoke and mirrors can’t feed people. Trouble is coming.
Thanks for the insight!
One can hear the repetition of commands on the mid atlantic german naval vessel ‘Neue Kurs, 280 Grad, voller Kraft auf Charleston!’..
@TSGordon: to my namesake: thanks..I knew there was a back story to this bullion “heist’…oh where oh where are the Hunt brothers when silver needs a boost( or in reality to be boosted)..HA!!!!
@francis snoot: “where is the Wanta money”
Well, if I told you I’d have to kill you…no seriously it’s complicated but does Citibank, Mellon Bank, Goldman Sachs all the World government leaders,CB and FED chairmen since 1987, ring a bell?? I’ve been reading his website since June 2007 which goes on in some detail to the back room machinations dealing with the repatriation of the $27.5 trillion ( and taxes due the US @ $4.5 trillion, @ a 35% tax rate ) originally given by former president Reagan…yes in the late 1980′s it apparently was economic warfare that brought down the USSR.. I first learned about derivatives from that website aprox. June 2007…which set my hair on fire…as he, bank by bank, individually listed each amount of on and off books derivatives..totaling $1.5 quadrillion!!!!!!!!!! ( check his archives ) I knew then they had crashed the entire global financial structure….all that’s been going on since is smoke and mirrors…I truly believe they expect many more elections yet to come ..Britain, Ireland, US( 2010 and 2012)…the EU with a constitution…and then the NAU, and in SoAmerica..the Bank of the South( in opposition) and the Shanghai Cooperative nations( in opposition) and the Arab OPEC nations( unclear where they might turn)…also the BIS, the IMF, the World Bank, and the IM-EX Bank; and the ASIAN nations and even the African regional banks…lets not forget the UN, WHO, UNICEF, GATT and the WTO as well…maybe Agenda 21 and other hideous anti-human papers support a world depopulated and impoverished…Remember billionaire Kevin Trudeau ( of US infomercial fame) stated that the elite he met live in a parallel universe…away and above the masses….when did you ever read the name Rothschild( or the many Rockafellers) in the annual Forbes magazine 400 wealthiest families…NEVER!!!!!!! Yes sir smoke and mirrors: G-5 jets , 400′ yachts and castles, 6 Star hotels, maids and servants, and limosines and vast cars….
@ Phil- Glad you are keyed in to the credit trap. As a ‘newlywed,’ I made all the classic mistakes when I moved to Denver. After the ‘home ownership’ fiasco, as things went I should have bought 20,000 nice $50. mountain tents and leased a parcel of land out somewhere past Sunshine Canyon. Today, I could be the largest slum landlord in the West. People would be flocking to stay there, just like in the Gold Rush. Heck, I might even have gotten an endorsment from Frosty Wooldrige. Man, I miss those reconstruction-era billboards and Airstream Trailer Ads.
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@latitude30: –The story you will ewant to track in about Kurt Sonnenfeld, who was freed of all charges of murder, yet threatens to release pix of the removal of that Gold, in the event he’s extradited from Argentina to serve trial. Why he won’t spell out the rest of the story is beyond me. It’s always sad to see a whistleblower suddenly choose ‘suicide.’
Worth a read:-http://www.magnetimarelli.com/_modules/download/download/CS_MMFlybrid_29apr09_EN.pdf
Mike
I meant Russian democracy debacle, oops. You know, with Summers and Rubin and Clinton.
@Richard@Latitude30N:
Who ever got there hands on the Wanta stash? Interesting that Clinton was the savior of the journalists held by Korea: any correlations? Clinton just popped up again like a bad dream, wielding power and perogative. Why?
Did you mean the 90′s on the Soviet debacle?
@anything but green. Yes, I wondered if you knew Nico? Such talk could only come from someone hip to most to the realities behind the 9/11 media situation.
M&S and I have been over some of the forensic ‘trivia’ the kean group chose to ignore, and I even suggested Max interview Nico, -regardless of his lunatic fringe image. The man is at least as good a researcher as Max, but to compare him to Webster is a strech. One advantage is WT’s ability to dissect the views in several languages. Tarpley and Nico were in our group, as were Grossman, Holmgren and Rosalee.
Important here, are the issues of the ‘put options,’ and any other financial entanglements that may still bear on the coming crisis. Max’s views are simple. If it happened yesterday, you can’t fix it. He’s good that way at playing the horses.
@TSGordon … ” While I’ve been sitting here in the East Texas outback telling whoever wanders by that when you buy a house on time (like 30 years) you end up paying for it three times over. ”
Hey, that’s my line as well …. always warning people of the mortgage debt trap.
On 9/11 an armored truck was being escorted from somewhere under the world trade center parking facility when the planes hit…if I am not mistaken…..gold bullion was being transported….my recollection is faint on whether it ever made it out of the rubble…or was later found..If I am also not incorrect it was either the Deutche Bank or Bank of New York…anyone remember the details??
If one reads Christopher Story’s blog http://www.worldreports.org he delineates a scheme where the German banks are in actuality lead by GHW Bush (and as we know, Alan Greenspan is a consultant to the Deutche Bank today).He writes about the Wanta controlled trillions used to bring down the Soviet Union financial structure in the 80′s….so whether Germany is but a way station or not ….it’s gold may be anywhere…even possibly in Switzerland as the Nazi’s did in WWII..
@Scott from Oregon … ” White Out? Or back in again? ”
http://www.spiegel.de/international/business/0,1518,635051,00.html
Thanks Scott .. a good read ( 6 pages ) … suggest all have a look as well.
It seems that White (BIS) was wasting his breath and that the CB bosses , in particluar Greenspan and Bernanke simply closed their eyes and wielded their power to continue to take all the other CBs further down the road to destruction.
Here are some quickies :
… Ben Bernanke, who succeeded Greenspan as Fed chief in early 2006, was especially deaf to White’s warnings. When he presented his biannual report on the state of the economy to the US Congress on July 19, 2006, he made no mention whatsoever of the subprime risk. …
… Bernanke remained unimpressed. “The troubles in the subprime sector seem unlikely to seriously spill over to the broader economy or the financial system,” he said. It was June 5, 2007….
… It was the beginning of the end. “When the crisis started, I asked myself: Is this the big one?” White recalls. “The answer was: Yes, this is the big one.” …
… The central banks, according to White, must actively counteract bubbles and exert stronger control over the financial industry, including hedge funds and insurance companies.
As an adviser to German Chancellor Angela Merkel’s group of experts, White helped to shape the basic tenets of the new order …
Promoting ‘Brown’s Bottom’ seemed a bit below the belt at first, but this was a first-class interview, excellent job Max!
During this Summer recess, some of us will need to investigate additional points of view. Those who haven’t discovered George Uri’s site may appreaciate it since he’s doing essentially what Stacy does but embellishing it with a bit more sarcasm. The best would be to get him on the show when classes here are back in session. ..hint, hint!!
http://urbansurvival.com/week.htm
In economics, I tend toward monetarism – interest and its manipulation is at the root of most of our economic problems. And we’re pushing those problems off on future generations. Put another way, in the study of economics there are two basic schools: Monetarists and liars.
You know how when you walk into a Casino how “the house always wins”? Well, much the same is true in finance. While I’ve been sitting here in the East Texas outback telling whoever wanders by that when you buy a house on time (like 30 years) you end up paying for it three times over.
Guess what? The common real estate mantra “Don’t worry, you’re paying it back with cheaper dollars” is more than offset by the amount of interest you’re paying. Plain and simple-like.
From the bankster perspective, they’re just playing the spread. If they charge you 6% on a 30-year loan (if you can actually get one to close these days, but that’s another problem and rant) you can bet they envision a world where real inflation & money printing will be only 4% and they will pocket the difference (2% of the loan) as their profit.
What we’ve just gone through – and why the financial services sector has been in the crapper here lately – is that instead of servicing the loan for 20 or 30-years to make their 2%, the bankster class bundled up piles of loans and claimed (which we know is not true) that “A portfolio of real estate loans will act pretty much like a bond over time. Yeah, sure, right.
So while the banksters were making their 2%, the new bond-holders, widows, orphans, college endowments, and oh yeah…your 401(k) and mutual funds…didn’t put a pencil to it and figure out that subprime and Alt-A’s were going to behave more like a bond backed by Zimbabwe and that once the bad product started to implode, it would take down the good loans (conventional/prime) over time. Which is why Fannie this week is asking for another $10.7 billion.
@Amandip an excellent link, [also hypertext links were interesting too ], thankyou.
India’s Gold Reserve, Its an interesting read especially for Gold Bugs. Being an Indian even I was not aware of most of things they mentions in this article
For those who don’t know in the Table second column they mentioned figures in Crore.
1 Crore = 10 Million
http://2ndlook.wordpress.com/2007/11/10/india-the-worlds-richest-economy/
….surely germany will never see its gold again .
Goldman Sac…….Bank of Isreal?
Mike
Comment on Webster Tarpley’s stuff.
Just a minor point: He provides good, generally dated research done by other people, but brings it into mainstream with his respectable image. Definitely a globalist (New Dealer, like his former mentor Larouche). At least he seems to be independent, and not the usual “truther” spook.
Typically, he claims the drills to be his own discovery, when they were Nico Haupt’s:
http://911review.org/brad.com/archives/sept-2000-war-games.html
Max suggested/mentioned an boycott of Coca cola and short sell those stocks; it could be done with an other company that likes to exploit people for profits, or even better: companies like Xe, martin lockheed those companies profit from war and death. But there’s an big downside on this; first of all the pensions of workers will be vanished, second (although there are rich shareholders) the shareholders incl pensionfunds will lose (all) their money third the jobs provided will be lost possible fourth; the argument of “too big to fail” worked before
so why not then?
If it does work; the company loses marketvalue and its profits while “we”, the people can cash in to use the money to help humanity. Yet if this would be an good plan; better do it right in the first place: use the fractional reserve system. If there’s an run on the banks and people lend more the system blows it self up. It would be an reverse paulson attack; he threaten to destroy the economy, now we should so they will fear us and change the system (to a gold standard tighter
regulations, better moral regulators but that’s details to be worked out; i dont have enough knowledge to do so).
Paulson succeeded; time for payback.
The downside; the economy might be destroyed and the new
system allows even more corruption/extortion/parasite behaviour.
Or we can keep going in this corrupt system give our money to Goldman Sachs and it’s cronies while a billion people are starving, wars, the middle class/low incomes pay the price, etc. and the top 1% is profiting from this.
Or maybe Max/Stacey might have an better solution.
Hope to make everyone think/stand up for themselves is just
disillusionary optimism.
keep up the great informative work!
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-08/07/content_11843707.htm
Reason for Friday’s dollar bounce?