Yep, Rutger got this line from me. Thats when I bumped into Reeves cause he didn’t recognize me, tak’n the wrong pill that day I quess. Shortly after I saw Bob walk’n and I said “He Bob! He said ” you won’t believe what happened to me today” and I said” You know Bob, I don’t even wonna know!” and he went on with his walk’n.
@youri and all y’all
remember frederick millen…..now that man was an original thinker and a doer..he really burned brightly…except he thought I was just taking the piss out of him….now if he said he’d seen things you wouldn’t believe, I woulda believed him….BTW I hate ‘bladerunner’ more than the matrix….gggrrrrhhh.
@youri
wow ‘Heart Of Darkness’ who woulda thought…seriously though…youri different looking looking link, oops same YouriTube clip….re:’YT’ logic and YT search engine… I rest my case….oh yeah as for the helicopters I’ve been trying to get that sound out of my head since I got back from ‘Nam’…that is why I can’t listen to heavy rock anymore…just takes me back to the…sorry you were saying something.
@Giuseppe Bagodonutti TnX for clarifying if so.
@Mr Supergeek
YouTube search engine is sucks major in my opinion and they have some classifying Sys for giving suposely advice on the vids you wonna see, sucks too, to temporarely driv’n I think. YouTube Gots have to be removed immediately they stink like cowardly pigs on a hot day, unbearable.
Search engines spider and bot but can be used for whatever purpose. You can use other search engines but somtimes have to do some anti hijack even on the Mac nowadays. everybody should learn the bsics of anti hijack using the right progs on some level. Even Mac users won’t escape this.
@Youri
I am really suspicious of the YT search engine..and also that YT is replacing real…well replacing quite a lot of real things actually!…arent you?
Apocalyps Now is my favored movie in the genre. Loved Max when he begun with his very canny methaphor where in Paulson and Colenel Kurtz from the Colonel Kurtz Joseph Conrads novella Heart of Darkness was the inspiration.
“Somebody like Colonel Kurtz from the movie Apocalyps now has to go up river and take him out” ; I am paraphrasing Max here.
And Conrads novella Heart of Darkness was the big inspirationwhich for the making of the Apocalyps Now movie but now situated in the American Vietnam war.
I think if you learn a little bit of how this movie all came together, in which the helicopters used in this movie where used for actuel combat in between the shoooting of the film for example.
I think this youtube movie flick captures some of the madness making this movie http://tinyurl.com/mekjcu
@nutti
Good Evenin’ Dude
re:Stacy…WTF!!…I’m sure knowing Max as she does she is used to WTF moments by now…dunno maybe I need a break…because I haven’t had ‘WTF’ moment for a while…unless you count the nastzi sympathisers.
@youri
Mornin’ Ya’All
RE:be afraid etc…..sorry…but I am just getting taglines for film posters….but hey..youri stay calmer…and remember to try and always ‘Catch A Keepr’ otherwise the internet can just end up like fishing..ie throw the little ones back.
‘The doctor is right in his diagnoses when he tells his patient “You should go fishing” Meaning staring in the water all day and catch shit! These people are truly insane and can’t be helped beside putting tnem a long side the water to not cause any harm to society’
Dan Valley was right
Obama is Pook
We are in new times…
a new clock by which humanity sees only its vital parts
at best
nothing comes from within
for God is Dead
God is a worm in the rotting vegetable matter that we throw into the compost
a passive investor
a passive consumer
the zombie of creation’s aberration
(If Stacy is reading this string of 50, she’s probably wondering
I only like fishing effectively with a net or fly fishing the least.
The doctor is right in his diagnoses when he tells his patient “You should go fishing” Meaning staring in the water all day and catch shit! These people are truly insane and can’t be helped beside putting tnem a long side the water to not cause any harm to society.
@youri
re: the horror…Wow!..I thought you would have seen ‘Apocalypse Now’….already!….please don’t go all capt.Kurtz on us……Oops I forgot you don’t talk to the captain you listen.
@ YOURI………this is what an alien or anyoneone with the capacity for critical thinking would ponder of the the human race…………The Four Horsemen
of the Apocalypse
Back in 1980 novelist WILLIAM S. BURROUGHS addressed the Eco-Technic Institute.
A transcript of his ‘prophetic’(?) talk.
This article appeared in
New Dawn Magazine No. 37, July-August 1996 http://www.newdawnmagazine.com/Articles/Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse.html
By William S. Burroughs
I’m speaking here as a writer of fiction, and of course many of the hypotheses and theories and ideas
and suggestions that I will put forward may horrify a scientific audience. But they’re to be seen from a
fictional point of view. My subject is The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse, which were Famine,
Plague, War, and Death…
Portentous and purposeful as the priest advancing on a dying man to administer the Last Rites, so the four caballeros by
their solid presence indicate that Time has been called for that particular biologic or sociological experiment. Closing time,
gentlemen… dinosaurs bellow piteously, Famine saddles up his cayuse and gallops through swamplands leaving a
dustbowl behind him… and the outmoded dinosaurs subside into museum skeletons, gaped at by human spectators. And
the day of the spectators will come too.
At the present time, the situation of course with regards to the Four Horsemen is much more complicated than it was
before man appeared on the scene, there the most important Horseman was probably Famine. At the present time, the
subject of the experiment, in this case the human species, can to some extent control the conditions of the experiment,
but this isn’t such an advantage as one would think since they cannot control themselves. The human creature has
demonstrated through the centuries a stubborn disinclination to control himself. However, if I may indulge in whimsy, had
we been dinosaurs we might have built great dams to preserve supplies of water and protect our way of life and we might
have hunted down the despicable mammals as the egg-sucking rats they were. Some have advanced theories that the
mammals ate the dinosaurs’ eggs and undermined them that way though many other factors were at work in the
disappearance of the dinosaurs.
There is such basic disagreement as to how existing conditions can be altered, by exactly who and for the benefit of
whom, there doesn’t appear to be any sort of agreement. And stupidity and short-sighted self interest may well swamp
Spacecraft Earth before the Horsemen can saddle up. Meanwhile, the Spectral Riders are being eagerly wooed by the
CIA and similar agencies in other countries… wise, far-sighted men who will no doubt use their awesome knowledge of
Famine, Plague, War and Death for the good of all mankind.
“Put that joker Death on the line. Take care of Mao and that gang of cut-throats.”
Actually, Western society is so constructed as to concentrate the greatest power in the worst possible hands. See,
practically anything has military applications. So really the most important knowledge is now Top Secret classified.
Famine, seemingly the most fortuitous of the quartet, is transcending the caprices of weather, deforestation and
overpopulation and getting a new look. We can in fact extend the area of Famine to include the lack of any substance or
condition essential to the support of life. We can in fact create needs quite as overwhelming or compulsive as the need for
food and water. Drug addiction is of course an example of a biologic need artificially produced by the administration of
drugs. And no doubt drugs much more habit-forming than heroin could be produced in the laboratory by jiggering and
tinkering with the habit-forming molecules.
We now have substances which could be introduced into the water supply, or even in gaseous form into the enemy air,
that have no effect unless it is withdrawn. And then a battery of crippling symptoms would develop, reducing the enemy to
complete impotence. There are certain metabolic illnesses in which the subject is unable to absorb certain essential
vitamins and minerals no matter how much he ingests. In fact, it is not far-fetched to conceive of inducing metabolic
changes that would make the absorption of any nutriments impossible: no matter how much he eats the person would die
of starvation.
The alliance between War and Plague was cemented with the first germ experiments and in this area there have been a
number of interesting developments. Despite a lot of talk about discontinuing such experiments and closing down the
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biologic and chemical warfare centres, Fort Dietrich, in Maryland is now dedicated to cancer research. And cancer
research, incidentally, overlaps the more sophisticated areas of biologic weaponry.
As early as World War II, England had a Doomsday Bug which was a mutated virus produced by exposing such viruses
as hepatitis and rabies to radiation. Now we know that a number of experiments have been carried out on exposing fruit
flies to radiation. These experiments conclusively showed that there were no favorable mutations resulting from exposure
to radiation… certainly not on fruit flies. Now one wonders why they didn’t carry these experiments further and expose
microscopic and sub-microscopic life to radiation. The answer is, undoubtedly they did and are doing just that but it’s Top
Secret. It is difficult to believe that such a promising line of research was abandoned and disturbing to speculate where
that research is at the present time…
And there is an item from the London Times, 18th April, 1971:
“New Cancer Virus Made By Accident… A completely new virus, probably capable of producing cancer in humans, has
been made by accident in an American laboratory… Fears expressed by cautious scientists that such medical research
could inadvertently produce new human diseases instead of curing existing ones. The new agent was discovered by Dr.
Abramson of the National Cancer Institute, near Washington. Under special conditions, the mouse virus could be
persuaded to infect human cancer cells in a test tube, though the process was extremely inefficient. Dr. Abramson now
reports, in Nature, that the mouse virus has changed its nature. It has become highly infective to human cells and
completely non-infective to mouse cells.”
In other words, we have a permanent change. A major genetic change has occurred in the virus and what amounts to a
completely new virus has emerged. The virus has picked up a human gene and incorporated it, giving it the ability to
multiply readily in human cells. Sir Macfarlane Burnet, in The Lancet, sounds a word of warning, of the “almost
unimaginable catastrophe of a virgin soil epidemic involving all the populous regions of the world”. The age-old dream of a
selective pestilence is now within the reach of modern technology.
This is also from the London Times, about 1970:
“Ethnic weapons that wipe out one race and leave another unharmed could soon be developed, according to leading
geneticist. Carl Larsen (a Norwegian) said recently: ‘Ethnic weapons would employ differences in human genetic
configurations to make genetic variations which would make genocide a particularly attractive form of war.’ (I’m quoting,
this is not my opinion.) Writing in the U.S. Army Military Review, Larsen argues that enzyme levels can vary according to
race; the absence of certain enzymes can cause death. Enzyme deficiency could be exploited by chemical warfare.”
It would probably be possible to develop a chemical which will act as an enzyme inhibitor. Say you find an enzyme
inhibitor to which 90% of Europeans would be vulnerable, which affects only 10% of Africans. Since the inhibitor could tell
friend from foe, no matter how intermingled, it is the superselective military weapon. It is what all military thinkers dream
of. Larsen admitted that “more genetic research was needed before ethnic weapons became a practical reality,” but again
this was ten years ago.
Selection of course could be carried much further, even to the point of an illness that affects only people with certain traits
of character, since character is an expression of an overall metabolic configuration. That is, there is a rage metabolism, a
metabolism associated with covert hostility, and so on. So it would be possible to carry your selective pestilence much
further.
Well, it seems that War, Plague and Famine are merging. What about the Last Horseman… Death, a pale horse, a pale
rider? Can Death maintain a separation from the means by which Death is produced? Can he stay separate from the
horseman and get out there and do the job, or is the union between Death and the instrument of Death about to be
consumated? There are those who think so.
Herald-Tribune, June 8, 1970: “The Synthetic Gene Revolution.” This is the first synthetic gene by Dr. Hare Khorana, at
the University of Wisconsin. And there’s been a lot of research since. They’ve created an artificial gene; news that ranks
with the splitting of the atom as a milestone in our control or lack of control of the physical universe.
“It is the beginning of the end” – this was the reaction to the news from the science attache at one of Washington’s major
embassies. “If you can make genes you can eventually make new viruses for which there is no cure. Any little country with
good biochemists could make such biological weapons. It would only take a small laboratory.” If it can be done, someone
will do it. To be sure, it’s almost science fiction but science fiction has a bad habit of coming true. In fact, it frequently
surpasses the fact. The facts of science are now surpassing science fiction, and we have a lot of books that would be
classified as scientific fact: a novel like The Terminal Man, there’s nothing in there that isn’t within the reach of modern
technology.
Of course, the Gentlemen Riders have no meaning outside of human context, they are in fact human inventions. So let us
examine the human context.
The first thing that would impress a visitor from outer space would be the tremendous, inexplicable gap between potential
and performance. It’s amazing when you consider what the human organism could do in terms of its potential, and what it
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actually does. No species that isn’t fundamentally flawed could be so stupid this consistently. Let us consider the human
organism as an artifact. Comparative evolution will show us what is wrong with it and how far it has to go.
You have the first airplanes… now, take one look at that artifact and you see that everything is wrong with it. They were
incredibly dangerous, they had a very short range, and to be anything more than a curiosity it has a very long way to go…
So now up here’s your present planes and rockets and so forth… and all the steps in between… well now take an artifact -
see, we can see that this artifact is in a rudimentary stage and that it has a very long way to go, we could see that back
then. We don’t have to see all this development to know that if this is going to do anything at all it’s got to make a number
of forward steps. Now take an artifact like the bow I’ll put it up here – what’s wrong with it? Very little. It’s gone about as far
as you can go on the principle of a projectile propelled by an elastic spring – you can use rubber bands, it’s the same
principle. The artifact is subject to a basic limitation: the stronger the bow, the more energy required to draw it. It can’t go
very much further. Now of course modern bows have appeared and there are a lot of hobbyists who hunt with bows. They
kill bears and I think even lions, and undoubtedly these bows, modern bows, are much better than anything that people
had five hundred years ago. But they’re not all that much better. They’re not basically different or basically much better.
Now take another artifact down here, the flintlock rifle or pistol. Take one look at that artifact and ask yourself what is
wrong with it. Just about everything. They didn’t even have the firepower of the bow; they took much longer to load and
prepare them. They misfired very frequently; rain and wind would render the weapon quite useless – if rain gets in the pan
it won’t ignite. Black powder is dangerous, very much more volatile than smokeless powder. It’s very dangerous to
transport and use, static electricity will set it off; if you shuffled across the floor and picked up a canister of black powder
that would be a very dangerous thing to do – it’d blowup… So it has a very long way to go.
Up here to modern automatic weapons, another factor comes in and that’s the factor of money. Money and profit
becomes very important because as soon as an article goes into mass production they don’t want to know about a better
article. And they particularly don’t want to know about one that is basically different, because the most expensive thing a
manufacturer can do is to junk his dies. He’s got his dies set up to manufacture the very inefficient internal combustion
engine, he doesn’t want to shift to a turbine. So he will suppress inventions. Very useful inventions are now suppressed…
And we can also see living creatures as artifacts. When you take an artifact like the weasel, well what’s wrong with it?
Well, not much. It’s limited, but in terms of its structure and goals it functions well enough; it has reached the limit of its
development. And you look at the human artifact: what’s wrong with it? Just about everything, it’s right down here with the
flintlock… It’s got a long way to go.
First the question as to what distinguishes the human animal from other animals is one of the very frequent questions, and
Korzybski, who started the idea of general semantics, the meaning of meaning, had I think the best answer: it’s language.
But language must not be confused with communication. You see animals communicate and they talk, but they don’t
write. They can’t make knowledge available to members of their species outside their communication range. Everything
they learn they have to learn during their lifetime. Now a wise old rat will know a great deal about poisons and traps, but
he can’t write a treatise which other rats could read, he can’t pass that knowledge on to rats over here or to future
generations of rats… very fortunate… for us. Now to get back to the human artifact; one of the things that distinguishes
man is language, that animals talk but they don’t write. They’ve got no way of writing something down so that it can be
available through space and time. Actually, we know that some people don’t write, but the whole of human language they
can pass on orally, which animals cannot. Language is essentially a symbolic system where something represents
something else. You can’t draw a map, it doesn’t mean anything to an animal; you can’t get an animal to read a map, but
illiterate, so-called illiterate people can.
Well, let’s consider the human artifact and what is wrong with it. Consider a creature that can live on the seacoast,
watching ships come in, day after day, year after year, and still believe the Earth is flat because the Church says so. They
knew the Earth was round. They believed it was flat. Or an artifact that can use cannonballs for 500 years before the idea
of a cannonball that explodes on contact blossoms in this barren soil. I could go on and on.
So why has the human artifact stayed back with the flintlock? Well, I’m advancing a theory that we were not biologically
designed to remain in our present stage any more than a tadpole is designed to remain a tadpole. The human is in a state
of neotony – that’s a biologic word we’ve already heard from Dr. Lotsch used to describe an organism fixated at what
would normally be a larval or transitional phase. Now ordinarily a salamander starts his life cycle in the water with gills;
later the gills atrophy and drop off and the animal develops lungs and comes up to land: then they go back and spend the
rest of their lives in the water and they have to come up to breathe. Just why they do that I don’t know.
However, there are certain salamanders who never lose their gills and they never leave the water. Now they’d be
considered in a state of neotony. The Xolotl salamander, found in Mexico, is an example. And scientists, moved by the
plight of this beautiful creature gave him an injection of hormones, whereupon he shed his gills and left the water after
ages of neotony. Whether this was any advantage to him is another question. (Laughter). It does seem advantageous if
you’re gonna spend much of your time in the water to have gills, but evolution is a one-way street. Once you lose your
gills you can never get them back. I think it’s a little too much to hope we could be jolted out of neotony by a single
injection. But by whatever means the change takes place, if it does take place, the change will be irreversible. The Xolotl,
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of course, once he sheds his gills can never reclaim them. This law of evolution… I don’t know any reason for it but it
seems to be a law – the whales must have been on land at one time: they lost their gills and they never got them back.
Now when we consider these evolutionary steps, one has a feeling that the creature is tricked in a way into making them.
Now here is a fish that has survived droughts because he has developed feet or rudimentary lungs. As far as the fish is
concerned, the feet are simply a means of getting from one water source to another or of going down into the mud and
waiting out the drought. But once he leaves his gills behind he has made an involuntary step – I won’t say forward exactly -
but a step. Looking for water he has found air. And perhaps a forward step for the human race will be made in the same
way.
The astronaut is not looking for Space, he’s looking for more Time to do exactly the same things. He’s equating Space
with Time and the Space program is simply an attempt to transport all our insoluble problems, our impasses, and take
them somewhere else where exactly the same thing is bound to occur. However like the walking fish, looking for more
Time he may find space instead, and then find that there is no way back. Now such an evolutionary step would involve
changes literally inconceivable from our present point of view.
Many of these ideas I have incorporated into a novel on which I’m now working. I’ve had several titles for this novel, and
the title that I have more or less decided on in the course of this conference is Place of Dead Roads – Planet Earth. I’ll
read a few pages here…
“As a prisoner serving a life sentence can think only of escape, so Kim (this is my hero) took it for granted that the only
purpose of his life was Space travel. He thought of this as not so much a change of a locality but as a change of
dimension, the basic change of a being with all its surroundings like the switch from water to land. But you see, there had
to be the air-breathing potential first. That’s where you start. And what is it that you must alter in order to make these
changes.
“The first step towards Space exploration was to examine the human artifact with biologic alterations in mind that would
render our human artifact more suitable for Space conditions and Space travel. Now we are like water creatures looking
up from here at the earth and the air and wondering how we can survive in that alien medium. Fish didn’t have the
capacity to do that: we do. The water we live in is Time. That alien medium we glimpse beyond Time is Space. And that is
where we are going… Kim read all the science fiction books and stories he could find and he was stunned to find the
assumption, the basic assumption, that there is no real change involved in Space travel, same dreary people playing out
the same tired old roles. Take that dead act into Space. Now here they are light years from Planet Earth watching cricket
and baseball on a vision screen…. can you imagine taking their stupid pastimes light years into Space. It’s like the fish
said, ‘Well, I’m gonna just shove this aquarium up onto the land and there I’ve got everything I need…’ (laughter)… you
need entirely too much.
“Well, to begin with there is the question, of weight, the human organism weighs about 170 pounds and that is a decided
disadvantage. But also this breathing- eating-excreting-dreaming human organism must have its entire environment, its
awkward life process encapsulated and transported with it… into Space. And one wonders – Kim goes into his academic
act, letting his bifocals slip down onto his nose like a professor launching into a well-worn joke – one wonders, gentlemen,
if this crew doesn’t perhaps have a pet elephant essential to its welfare that it’s gonna take along…”
Now, regarding this question of weight, we have a model at hand of a much lighter body, in fact a body which is virtually
weightless and I’m referring to the astral dream body, which some scientists don’t believe in. But this model gives us a
clue to the changes we must undergo. When I say must, I am speaking not in moral, but in biologic terms. And the dream
also gives us insight into Space conditions. One of the more interesting facts of dream research, has established that
dreaming is a biologic necessity. You see, they can tell now when an animal or a person is dreaming by the brainwaves,
the REM waves, and research has established that if dream sleep is cut off every time they see sleep brainwaves they
wake the animal up – no matter how much dreamless sleep he is allowed, irritability, restlessness, hallucinations and
eventually coma, convulsions and death would result. He’d show all the symptoms of sleeplessness no matter how much
sleep he was allowed… I don’t know what Freud would have made of that… Kim saw dreams as a vital link to his biologic
and spiritual destiny in Space, and deprived of this airline he would die. The way to kill a man or a nation is to cut off their
dreams in the way that whites took care of the Indians, they cut off their dreams, their magic, and they tended to die out.
So I’m starting here with a basic assumption which of course many of you will, cannot accept: that our destiny – again I’m
talking about our biologic destiny – is in Space, and that our failure to achieve this is the basic flaw in the human artifact.
That’s why it’s back here, down here with the flintlock instead of being somewhere up here.
Youri- People don’t have evil “sides”, they most likely have diminished frontal lobes. “Good” and “Evil” are pretty simplified and archaic constructs, much like “heaven” and “hell”.
People do “evil” things, but they do them, usually, for extremely petty reasons. You could say people are simple-minded and petty and therefore do evil things, which would be closer to the mark.
One of the most evil people I’ve ever heard about was Mother Theresa.
Marc Faber ( Dr. Realist and cerainly not like MSMs, who are Nihilists and name him Dr. Doom) said that Money is tightening. In my vieuw it could have been a tightened money supply all along cause just little of the 24 trill stimulus went into the real economy as this seems more and more likely now deflation is actualy happening and not only in the U.S. also Japan, China, the Netherlands etc..
We also must not forget that in a declining economy with a negative multiplier you can’t have inflation that easy and when credit money suply thightends for all kind of Banksters related reasons, deflation is not a surprise. Although oil prices make the main price desicions for all products for obvious reasons.
Commodities will keep rising cause there’s nowhere else to go with a, in the long term eventually and uninevitably, sliding dollar. Volatility has not to be confused with long term insides.
People and Countries only can turn to more “tangible goods” in last resort besides Silver and Gold. Commodeties will rise only on the simple fact that people have no where else to go.
The Stockmarket is a laughing stock were only some volatility traders remain beside the high velocity and frequency frontrunning trader Goldman Sachs.
However not many, who know me, would suspect cause of my depresive nature sometimes, I am indeed and truly an optimist.
But people often confuse my pure realistic views with unrealistic acording to their little pinky world and a lot of them are intelectuals too who think the should stay deformed by their work or pick of “friends” which best suits their “Happy Pappy Pinky Vieuw”.
But I like “They are indolent belly-button lint bong smokers”
But their bunche of so called intelectuals among them too.
You’re too optimistic… People aren’t nihilists
They are indolent belly-button lint bong smokers
But that’s what we are for… Tell the People…
it’s the best we can do…
I spread the word
even to street denizens high on crack
(they are actually good disseminators of the Gospel)
it’s like this article on the Critical Mass of Enlightenment http://deoxy.org/critmass.htm
eventually,
when enough people come to the realization,
then society EXPLODES in Consciousness
I’ve never met a true Nihilist
becuz they DON’T EXIST
RE:COCAINE TAINTED CASH
Old story…
I knew that shit when I was 9 years old…
I’m surprised the Ass-Munching Turd-Tokers are rehashing that story for their pathetic ratings…
@Giuseppe Bagodonutti “What would an alien think?”
An Alien would look at the earth and see that there are some strange beings picking up the shit for some wolf type being and would start thinking about “Who is actually in charge here?”
@Your Carma.
I have a theory.
It goes…
“If you think you are good at something, chances are you are not as good as you think you are. Inversely, if you think you are bad at something, chances are you are better at it than you think you are”
Its like driving a car. Usually people who think they are good drivers are the worst drivwers and the ones who think they suck are really careful, etc.
Just a theory, but I agree that if you(one) think you are evil Chances are you probably aren’t as bad as you think. In fact you probably work harder at being ‘good’ knowing that you have an evil side (as you say we all do). Therefore are a good person, or at very least a better person than you think you are.
Take heart in my theory and smile
I know what Evil is cause I’ve bin there. Not literally but learing by knowing thyself. Everybody has an evil side even if they know it or not.
And from what I’ve envisioned from my bad side, “Oh boy, you don’t wonna be there” I can tell you!
People who have this knowledge of themselves know this is true but they are better able to control this for the better or, like some of them unfortunately, for the worse.
So we not only have to fight this “homo homini lupus” Wolf (Lupus) inside ourselves but also in other people who are not aware and awake.
I’ve been on the Island Patmos where Johannes wrote his new testimonies ” Revelations.” I’ve seen things you people wouldn’t believe.
From my own personal expieriences I know there is more “between heaven and earth” than many suspect and I am not the only one.
Remember God only helps those who help themselves.
Friday, August 14, 2009 “The World’s Source for Global Temperature Record Admits It’s Lost or Destroyed All the Original Data That Would Allow a Third Party to” Model Climate
Hold, you’ll behold,
And be holden for all that you’ve done.
And Spell, cast a spell,
Cast a spell on the country you run.
And risk, you will risk,
You will risk all their lives and their souls.
And burn, you will burn,
You will burn in hell, yeah you’ll burn in hell.
You’ll burn in hell, yeah you’ll burn in hell for your sins.
And our freedom’s consuming itself,
What we’ve become is contrary to what we want
Take a bow.
Death, you bring death and destruction to all that you touch.
Pay, you must pay
You must pay for your crimes against the earth.
Hex, feed the hex
Feed the hex on the country you love
And Beg, you will beg
You will beg for their lives and their souls.
Yeah,
Burn, you will burn,
You will burn in hell, yeah you’ll burn in hell,
You’ll burn in hell, yeah you’ll burn in hell,
Burn in hell, yeah you’ll burn in hell for your sins.
“According to Mihalovic, “there is only one thing that happens when you are injected with a vaccine. You introduce a biological and chemical toxin which degrades your immune system.”
The letter from the UK Health Protection Agency, the official body that oversees public health, was leaked to a national newspaper (The Mail) leading to demands to know why the information regarding a deadly nerve disease has not been given to the public before the vaccination of millions of people, including children, begins.
It tells the neurologists that they must be alert for an increase in a brain disorder called Guillain-Barre Syndrome (GBS), which could be triggered by the vaccine. GBS attacks the lining of the nerves, causing paralysis and inability to breathe, and can be fatal.
The letter, sent to about 600 neurologists on July 29, is the first sign that there is concern at the highest levels that the vaccine itself could cause serious complications.
For more than six months now, various reports primarily from alternative media have been sprouting with information on the ineffectiveness of vaccines in handling any flu, not just the H1N1 flu. Mihalovic agrees, “It offers no protection whatsoever from any virus. If anything, it will only create disease either immediately, or within a person’s lifetime.”
These guys are awful commentators.
All of a sudden Peter Schiff is a guru again. He’s been saying the same for 5 years.
They laugh at him when the market goes up, then when it drops 2% they love him.
They JUST DON’T GET IT.
At least this episode they are letting him talk and have started to listen….until the stock market goes up again – Then they will start laughing again.
The guy at the end blames his clients for making him a dickhead. Ha!
Fickle Fuckers!!!
Don’t know. I am still studying this subject among many others so I am slowely gaining knowledge. I’ve talked to a dude who works in the medicine making Industry so I could catch up a little.
Thimerosal is used as a conserver of the Vaccin but also had a second reason which I learned from my “medicine man.”
Sometimes the eggs in which the make some vaccins where contaiminated themselves with some undisirable bacterie, virus, disease like Salmonella for instance. To be sure to kill off those undesirables they decided to use Thimerosal. This shows that they themselves admit it’s a poison.
These medicie man make a lot of these kind of desicions like “OK, it’s poiseness but at least it’s clean of other Virusses.” Nowadays they could produce Vaccins whitout the poiseness Thimerosal but that’s more expensive so that’s why mainly in the huge stocks of Vaccins like anti-flu and very common Tetanus vaccins you’ll still will find this Thimerosal adjective. In Sweden they’ve completely banned out vaccins containing Thimerosal.
In fact it’s perfectly normal, acording to my source, that a produced vaccin is conteminated with a lot of undesirable visrusses bacteries and what do you have’s. That’s why, my source told me, that they developed a literally golden Nano filter which no virus is small enough to pass.
David Cameron: ‘British Government could default on its debts’
Gordon Brown is running the risk that the British Government will be unable to pay back the money it is borrowing from international investors, the Conservative leader said.
Democracy is dead in Wall Street’s new ‘Socialism for The Rich’
This is a historic government coup: The GOP created a new “American Socialism” that resembles Russia under Putin, with its bizarre blend of socialism plus just enough hint of capitalism to keep a steady flow of kickbacks to a corrupt dictator and his moneyed cronies.
At high levels the game reminds me of Bush looking deep into the Putin’s eyes and getting “a sense of his soul” (the “soul” of a former KGB agent and communist enemy of America?) Just as Bush failed to see the true “soul” of Russia’s boss, Congress and today’s Main Street America cannot see the hidden “soul” of the new “American Socialism” being created by the Goldman Conspiracy, banks and their political pawns.
This from Mark Denninger. I thought you’d all really appreciate this so I’m pasting the lot. This guy is super bright and he’s pleading with America here. He’s clearly had enough.
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Will It All Come Tumbling Down?
Let’s juxtapose two stories. First, from Bloomberg:
Aug. 14 (Bloomberg) — More than 150 publicly traded U.S. lenders own nonperforming loans that equal 5 percent or more of their holdings, a level that former regulators say can wipe out a bank’s equity and threaten its survival.
Ok. Now how about this one?
WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) — Delinquency rates for loans and leases at U.S. banks increased to a record 6.49% in the second quarter from 5.58% in the first quarter, the Federal Reserve announced Monday.
So let me see if I get this right.
At 5% of non-performing loans a bank is at risk of being insolvent.
But the entire banking system in The United States had its non-performing loan ratio increase from 5.58% in the first quarter to 6.49% in the second, a record, and higher than the 5% level at which the survival of a bank(ing system) is threatened with collapse.
Hmmmm…. So should we take from this that the entire US Banking System is about to collapse?
This much we know for certain – you’re being screwed – systematically – to cover the sins of these banksters who made loans to people who they had no reason to believe could pay:
Being in debt is about to get a lot more expensive for millions of Americans. Credit card issuers have been rushing to raise rates in advance of this Thursday, when the first provisions of the Credit Card Accountability Responsibility and Disclosure Act (CARD) will go into effect, with other protections starting in February 2010.
Right. Including those who are good credit risks.
This is the problem with allowing the blatant and outrageous fraud in our system to continue: Those who are prudent, who have done only good and not bad things, get reamed repeatedly and are forced, at gunpoint, to pay for the sins of those who committed that fraud.
Yet we, as Americans, permit this.
We absorb 20, 25, 30% interest rates (while the banks borrow at zero) so the bank executives who knowingly granted credit to those who could not pay, then sold worthless securities to investors, do not go to prison for fraud.
We pay more than $30 billion in overdraft charges and allow banks to “shuffle” deposits and withdrawals to generate the maximum in these fines so that the bank executives who are knowingly mis-marking “assets” at higher than their true values can “cover” their sin and do not go to prison for fraud.
We pay the FDIC “assessments” and “loans” from Treasury, as taxpayers and banking customers, so that the FDIC can repay depositors after it absorbs a loss that it should not have incurred – a loss that happened because OTS, OCC and the FDIC failed to close banks in a timely manner that were cooking the books when they either knew or will willfully blind to the control fraud taking place at these institutions.
The Fed says that:
Demand for loans continued to weaken across all major categories except for prime residential mortgages.
The American people are wising up, but only to a degree. They are refusing to take on new credit (as they should, seeing as they’re being charged not only for their own legitimate level of risk, but also for their next door neighbor who was intentionally given a loan that the bank knew he could not pay) and demanding in some small way that The Bezzle be eradicated.
The people recognize they’re being violated repeatedly by the scam artists on The Beltway and Wall Street, but they’re not quite sure how to stop it. Certainly, hollering at Congress hasn’t done any good. The Fed has refused to enforce consumer protections, as has Treasury, and both have done their damndest to overrule state regulations and even State Attorney Generals whenever possible.
Here’s reality folks:
The system still has too much non-performing debt in it, and that percentage is going up, not down.
It is getting worse, not better.
The only reason we have any “resemblance” of a functioning credit system at all at the present time is that the government and Fed are pumping upwards of $250 billion dollars a quarter – that is, $1 trillion a year – into the system to subsidize bad credit risks and keep those who have been and are getting screwed by these frauds – so long as they’re other banks and businesses – from having to bear the cost of these acts.
Instead of locking up the bank robbers (who wear a $3,000 suit instead of a kevlar vest and a gun) we are covering their theft with taxpayer money.
Instead of removing the embezzlement from the system and forcing fraud into the open, we are sweeping it under the rug.
Instead of demanding that people do business honestly and punishing those that refuse, we are allowing them $100 million dollar bonuses – after they run the price of your Granny’s Heating Oil up once again.
Tired of it yet?
It appears not.
But there is a mathematical limit to this sort of papering over of control frauds. It cannot go on forever; we do not have the ability to tax or borrow an infinite amount of money. Unemployment will not ease and true production and consumption cannot resume at a normal level when a trillion dollars or more is being stolen every year to cover up these scams.
Ultimately the tax base and borrowing capacity will both collapse.
We will come to the end of this rope, and before we do we had better flush the system of these shysters and con artists or our economy will disassemble itself in a spectacle far worse than what you saw last fall and into March of this year.
Of that I am certain.
16% of our working-age population is unemployed but looking for work. Nearly 30% of people 16 to 19 years of age are out of work but desire a job.
Why aren’t those people in Washington DC? Whether they have to hitchhike, carpool, take a bus – why aren’t they on the steps of the Capitol? Why aren’t they on The Mall? Why have these millions of individuals who have been screwed, blued and tattooed by the thieving ways of the banksters and fraudulent accounting that our government and “business interests” have engaged in not shown up to press their demand for redress of grievances?
Have we really turned into Prozac Nation? Is American Idol really that powerful? Have we become so immune to being ripped off over the last 30 years that when a bank re-orders our transactions to turn a $30 overdraft charge into $300 worth of fees on $50 worth of checks we’re willing to simply bend over the table, place a stick between our teeth and take it, then ask “please Sir, may I have another?”
Or will we witness America turn to something more destructive – events that I’m hearing about more and more – civil unrest?
This has not yet turned to rioting, but in Chicago neighborhoods there are now crimes happening in areas – such as Lincoln Park – that were unheard of just a year or two ago (and when I lived there) – men being mugged, from behind, by gangs, being robbed and severely beaten (hattip Janet Tavakoli for bringing this to my attention.)
There are a few people who are taking notice. Like this gentlemen:
No, that’s not someone about to commit an act of lawless violence. It is a man exercising his lawful Second Amendment right in a state that recognizes same – the right to keep and bear arms. He demonstrated, lawfully, while President Obama gave a speech in Phoenix. There was no violence, no shooting, just free speech coming from signs and mouths – and a polite society in which ideas were exchanged, backed up by the indelible yet unspoken statement: This demonstration WILL be and remain peaceful and I pledge my honor and, if necessary, life to guarantee every man and woman’s right to same.
As expected “the mainstream media” considered this gentlemen “a threat.” Perhaps he is, but not in the way they’d like you to believe. Certainly, he’s a threat to anyone who might commit an act of random (or not-so-random) violence in that crowd! Certainly, he’s a guardian of freedom and the right to peaceable assembly and speech. Would you try to mug him walking down a street in Lakeview? Oh hell no. But you’ll never see that gentleman in the Lakeview neighborhood in Chicago because Chicago, unlike Phoenix, refuses to recognize your right to defend not only yourself but others as well, and as a consequence only the criminals are armed.
Certainly this gentleman is a threat – to a government that would run roughshod over people and ignore The Constitution and the lawful limits to its power, to a corporatist culture that has become imbued with fraud, deceit and lies, and to the heathens in Washington DC, all of them, who have knowingly and willfully cooperated with the lawless behavior of those who not only got us into this mess but refuse to this very day to put a stop to it.
Folks, wake the hell up. If you’re going to get mad and swear to “get even” with “the man”, do so in a constructive fashion and channel that anger where it will do some good!
Do you want an America where your children cannot go to college without taking on $100,000 in debt? Where you can be taxed not by a government but by a bank to cover your neighbor’s bad loan – when the very same bank gave him that loan knowing he couldn’t pay it back? Where so-called “regulators” actively conspire to cook the books of a major thrift (IndyMac) which then fails, costing you – via FDIC assessments – billions of dollars? Where none of these acts of control fraud are prosecuted and in fact they are defended by our government going to court to block state law enforcement from protecting your rights?
What sort of nation do you tolerate, America? What sort of nation are you willing to live in?
Will you finally rise from your chair and demand that it stop when unemployment reaches 20%?
30%?
When you have no food in the pantry and no money to buy some?
When you are mugged and beaten, with the thieves stealing your cell phone and a mere $20 while walking home from the subway stop, or as you leave your local watering hole after a friendly drink? Or will you wait until you’re walking home from the corner grocer with a loaf of bread, purchased with your last $2, and are mugged by marauders who are hungrier than you – in a city that refuses to recognize your right of self-defense.
How high does your interest rate have to go on your credit cards – while your bank borrows the money it lends you at zero percent – before you cut ‘em all up and send ‘em to the bank with a picture of your erect middle finger instead of a payment?
How long will you sit while both Democrat and Republican lie to you about how the “bailouts” and “handouts” will help the economy. Has all this grift helped? Did the “stimulus” keep unemployment from going higher as was promised? Did you really get help with your mortgage or were you offered a scam “forbearance” that amounts to the back-end loading of your balance, turning it into a balloon note or worse? Have you enjoyed watching JP Morgan and other big banks that got tens of billions of taxpayer dollars lease tankers and then bid up the price of oil – causing it to double – with your tax money? How about The Fed and Treasury funneling tens of billions in taxpayer money through AIG to a literal “who’s who” of big banks so they could in turn pay billions in bonuses?
All of this obviously meets with your approval as demonstrated by your actions: You still sit back and pop a beer, you go about your daily routine, you refuse to rise from your chair and demand: STOP THE LOOTING AND START PROSECUTING, finally willing to back that up with your sacred honor – or more.
Sometimes I wonder what our nation will stand for – exactly where the breaking point is where we finally force the right things to be done. The right choices. Whether the time will come where we force the barons both inside the beltway and out to face the music for their sins.
Is it 10% unemployment? 15? 20? 1/3rd of our nation out of work and hungry?
Is it 2 million foreclosures, three, six, ten, thirty?
Is it credit card rates at 20%, 30, 50?
Will we submit to the jackbooted foot of the scammers and frauds on our collective necks, both in business and in DC, until our children starve and our grandmothers, mothers and fathers are shoveled in the hole, dead and cold?
Does America still truly have the capacity, as a people, as a nation, to get angry? To demand redress of grievance? To call, support, and honor a general strike? To take up, keep and bear arms not to commit violence but to stand shoulder-to-shoulder as our Constitution recognizes as our God-given right to prevent violence against not only ourselves but our neighbors – any and all of them? To peacefully occupy The Capitol and shut it down – not to loot, pillage or destroy, but to force the cessation of all commerce in an unmistakable and singular statement: This far you have gone, and you shall take not one step further until each and every guilty man and woman is under indictment, the institutions and businesses responsible are closed, and the ill-gotten gains returned.
Do we still have what it takes to make that happen? Do we have any more Rosa Parks’ in America? Any Dr. Kings?
Or is all we have left in us a descent into random lawlessness – civil unrest, or even full-scale riots where the looting and burning is not of the banks and others who have robbed America, but of the random store-owner, house or car – simply because it’s there?
I fear for my nation and her future.
I fear we have too few men like that gentleman in Arizona and too many muggers in Lakeview.
We live in a nation where our government’s founding documents formally recognize the supremacy not of the government, but of the people. Where government exists only by the consent of the governed.
Not of, by and for the corporation, but of the individual.
Any idea what TYPE of vaccine they are trying to “fast-track” ?
(it wasn’t mentioned in the article)
If it’s just another variety of the egg-based vaccines, then WHAT DA FUQ are they doing????
They should be fast-tracking the VLP vaccines, if anything (no mercury, no RNA, no Bullshit)
Of course, the Big Pharma Lobbyists won’t let upstarts like Novavax or Medicago get in there with their NEW-science, until they kill off a few million people first….
gotta protect the profits of Glaxo et al.
Those ignorant scumbags!!!!!!!!!!
A pox on their house of ill-repute!!!!
What was that Zappa lyric… Oh yah ALL YOUR CHILDREN ARE POOR UNFORTUNATE VICTIMS OF SYSTEMS BEYOND THEIR CONTROL
A PLAGUE UPON YOUR IGNORANCE & THE GRAY DESPAIR OF YOUR UGLY LIFE
–”What’s the ugliest part of your body”
from “We’re only in it for the money”
I think God is a passive investor…
probably puts Hir money on the 3x Bear Humanity ETF
(and the Tent-City REIT)
Screw those stupid americans. Screw the climate discussion. We are morons for wasting any more webactivity on them. Runaway global warming is now a fact of life.
It can only be stopped by a nuclear winter combined with serious carbon reabsorption, or truly concerted effort in greening and algae production. Either impossible or unlikely.
Prepare for a dry world without fish or most other species, all because todays commercial interest has our governments by the balls. We fead dominance of other countries? Who cares! Ban fossil fuels now. Stop burning biomass. I’m as disgusted about this as Max is about GS..
Nationwide revolt against mass swine flu vaccination accelerates (United Kingdom)
The nationwide revolt against government plans to implement a mass swine flu vaccination program in the United Kingdom has picked up steam, with a poll revealing that a third of NHS nurses will refuse to take the shot.
@frances……….Re: @Dedo’s post: ……..Here’s my input,..
Never say what you can grunt. Never grunt what you can wink. Never wink what you can nod, never nod what you can shrug, and don’t shrug when it ain’t necessary. : )
No, he ain’t coming.I’d end up hitting him over the head with something!
Here’s my input,..
Never say what you can grunt. Never grunt what you can wink. Never wink what you can nod, never nod what you can shrug, and don’t shrug when it ain’t necessary. : )
@frances………….It’s my pseudonym. Should I get a copyright for it?
I knew you were a ‘she’, I wouldn’t have suggested it to a ‘he’ coz in my experience they’re a pain in the ass. It’s all in jest although I think we should take up Dedo’s offer of looking after the pigs coz he can be entertaining too. He could live in the sty with the pigs.
@Mother Earth…..Wow! In Britain you’d be paying around 3000 euro for something similar. To buy a place with 4 acres would cost about 500k euro here in Britain. Will France escape the fallout from climate change in the same way as Britain apparantly will?
Copyright and patents take ideas and visions and turns them into property. Then you need to buy or rent it, even if it is not original or inventive. I’d say an inventor or artist deserves some credit for his/her creations, but that social/monetary reward is overrun by the copyright/patent laws that are made to protect and exclude market participants to the detriment of the creative proces and human technological progress.. Now if it wasn’t for the banks the competition would be a lot less fierce and all these sharky tactics wouldn’t even have to come into play..
@Max
Re: PMF
Can you explain your copyright thing a little more? Also, where can I get info on how it works? I mean is PMF simply a place where people can invest in a film/documentary? Or, do they host the movie and take download/advertising fees or what? I need to understand the model.
Thanks
Yes … although this may not happen for at least 50 / 100 years, my guess is that if the 3rd world countries also become “industrialized” with similarly hight pollution , we could reach a “tipping point” where the current “stable equilibrium” becomes an unstable one.
Mother Nature cannot be beaten by mankind’s pathetic ego.
BTW in Kenya, Lion’s due for extinction is 20 years .
Joni Mitchel : “We paved paradise … and put up a parking lot” !
It may depend on the tent lady as well, but I do prefer the (abundantly) fertile regions of the planet.. Someone calculated one can live in the 4 acre farm in France for 200 Euro a month. And it has internet!
@ Phil, so are you agreeing with my assumption of what you meant, ie. that there is no longer the means to make enough oxygen coz we’re killing the things that absorb CO2 and convert it into oxygen? And that although CO2 enables vegetation to flourish, which in turn would produce oxygen, the fact is that the vegetation can’t grow quickly enough?
Thanks for your insights, I just want to get my head around this one because I think you’re onto something. It makes more sense than most of what I’ve read/heard.
@frances…………..If you haven’t sold your house yet, perhaps you would like to swap me for mine?
No frances, sorry your gov is insane! I love America but right now I would not choose to live there coz the lunatics have taken over the asylum imho. However, if it gets really crazy you can come and live here – you could keep me entertained with your intellect.
Yes … we are destroying the CO2 entities like marshes, rain forests etc. etc. while our ozone protection diminishes killing plankton ( bottom of the sea’s food chain ).
I could imagine a stable equilibrium could become an unstable one at the rate things are moving – i.e. a sudden “flip” and a fast catastrophy.
BTW .. did you know that the oceans’ jellyfish population is literally exploding – thanks to pollution.
First H1N1 Vaccine Patent filled by Baxter in 2001
This invention describes an influenza virus vaccine containing an influenza virus antigen obtained from a cell culture, with an influenza virus antigen content between 1 g and 5 g per dose and aluminum as an adjuvant as well as a method for its preparation.
Inventors: Otfried Kistner, Noel Barrett, Wolfgang Mundt, Friedrich Dorner
Assignee: Baxter Aktiengesellschaft
Primary Examiner: Laurie Scheiner
Oh, Frances, see what happens when curiosity gets the better of you? Sorry, but you’ve given me quite the laugh. You weren’t supposed to have bothered to whip out your red pen to tear those articles apart.
Poor Mr. Pouzzner..With a name like that, is it any wonder that he’s a bit clogged up? As you might suspect, the articles were suggested as short cuts for Phil and Sharon, given their interest in the 2012 op. I agree with the points you make (except the Plato one maybe), but hope those can be overlooked for the info provided.
In future I’ll try to select writers who have regular bowel movements.
it’s a way to push back against the copyright cartel
intellectual property rights is the most important of all social issues, imo
goldman sachs predatory algorithms are patented for example.. they have a patented bank stealing technology.. the best way to defeat them is to defeat them is to rewrite patent laws
fox news feeds their BS and frenzy based on monopoly rent from their copyright cartel position on films and TV.
defeeat Newscorp by re-writing copyright
join the pirate parites of UK and Sweden
beta.piratemyfilm.com is just a few hours into the beta test.. plenty of issues to resolve
BIG THANKS to ptah of the mkc community for helping me create pmf -
@Dedo:
Ah. You’ve sussed me out.
Since I now have the prerogative, might I mention Rednecks, door flying off like the Wizard of Oz during a hurricane, ground termites, toothless hags in shacks called houses, magic mushroom encounters, red ants that attack mercilessly, and drug lords dwelling in foreclosed homes.
Oh, and the Pillsbury dough-white sheriff that ticketed me on my birthday.
@Sharon:
If you haven’t sold your house yet, perhaps you would like to swap me for mine?
Peter Mandelson, UK’s secretary of state for business, innovation and skills, is planning a major crackdown on illegal file-sharing, according to reports over the weekend.
Why can’t that slug crawl under a rock somewhere and then we could surround it with salt so he doesn’t ever come back out?
@Snoot – I looked up YERT on Google, came up with a funny site.. http://www.yert.com/ So I tried to link my weekend impressions from the farm (lots of cows, buls, fresh fruit, nuts and veggies in beautifull france), but allas, I bought a crap camera that makes unappendable avis..
@Mother Earth:
I intended to intent but ended up in a house instead with rising taxes, failing septic, sandy well water, cane toads, dusty roads, mosquitoes up the cazoo, and environmental pollutant scare! Where’s my yert?
I tried to sign in after signing up months ago but doesn’t recognise my email (??)
But its great to finally see it up. I’m all in for the ‘On the Road’ documentary– your name and reputation has increased ten fold over the last couple of months so i think it would be a worth while project. And its time I gave something back to you guys
Dear Giuseppe Bagodonutti ………..
Your welcome,and yes Obama is most certainly Pook as was Bush.
WTF! Tobacco might produce vaccine for stomach virus http://link.reuters.com/saf62d
Happy like Washington and never having any stomic problems except with Orange must have some reason? And no prostate cancer
@youri
be afraid…the fly….you forgot that one….please take no notice of this comment….I’m just trying to figure out why my last two comments disap
@Mr Supergeek
Yep, Rutger got this line from me. Thats when I bumped into Reeves cause he didn’t recognize me, tak’n the wrong pill that day I quess. Shortly after I saw Bob walk’n and I said “He Bob! He said ” you won’t believe what happened to me today” and I said” You know Bob, I don’t even wonna know!” and he went on with his walk’n.
Interesting view point.
Obviously it’s France’s fault for helping during the American revolution; allowing America to gain independence from England.
Remember: Blame France for letting that young, poor, kid run away from home only to grow up on the streets a hooligan.
Take responsibility, Europe!
Season’s first named Atlantic storm may be forming http://tinyurl.com/qgonnj
Hurricane season better late than never for insurers 18 Aug 2009 http://tinyurl.com/oq5wwc
I’ve been patiently waiting for this to go online. Thanks for all the effort, and I wish you great luck.
Money grows on the tree of persistence
~ Japanese proverb
@youri and all y’all
remember frederick millen…..now that man was an original thinker and a doer..he really burned brightly…except he thought I was just taking the piss out of him….now if he said he’d seen things you wouldn’t believe, I woulda believed him….BTW I hate ‘bladerunner’ more than the matrix….gggrrrrhhh.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTzA_xesrL8
Cannabis chemicals may help fight prostate cancer http://link.reuters.com/ted62d
@youri
wow ‘Heart Of Darkness’ who woulda thought…seriously though…youri different looking looking link, oops same YouriTube clip….re:’YT’ logic and YT search engine… I rest my case….oh yeah as for the helicopters I’ve been trying to get that sound out of my head since I got back from ‘Nam’…that is why I can’t listen to heavy rock anymore…just takes me back to the…sorry you were saying something.
@Giuseppe Bagodonutti TnX for clarifying if so.
@Mr Supergeek
YouTube search engine is sucks major in my opinion and they have some classifying Sys for giving suposely advice on the vids you wonna see, sucks too, to temporarely driv’n I think. YouTube Gots have to be removed immediately they stink like cowardly pigs on a hot day, unbearable.
@youri
RE: YT
I think he means YouTube
@Mr Supergeek
YT? Have to fill me in here?
Search engines spider and bot but can be used for whatever purpose. You can use other search engines but somtimes have to do some anti hijack even on the Mac nowadays. everybody should learn the bsics of anti hijack using the right progs on some level. Even Mac users won’t escape this.
Obama’s approval rating on healthcare was at 41%, unchanged from last month http://link.reuters.com/ned62d
@Youri
I am really suspicious of the YT search engine..and also that YT is replacing real…well replacing quite a lot of real things actually!…arent you?
@Mr Supergeek
Donnow where you exactly hinting at?
Apocalyps Now is my favored movie in the genre. Loved Max when he begun with his very canny methaphor where in Paulson and Colenel Kurtz from the Colonel Kurtz Joseph Conrads novella Heart of Darkness was the inspiration.
“Somebody like Colonel Kurtz from the movie Apocalyps now has to go up river and take him out” ; I am paraphrasing Max here.
And Conrads novella Heart of Darkness was the big inspirationwhich for the making of the Apocalyps Now movie but now situated in the American Vietnam war.
I think if you learn a little bit of how this movie all came together, in which the helicopters used in this movie where used for actuel combat in between the shoooting of the film for example.
I think this youtube movie flick captures some of the madness making this movie http://tinyurl.com/mekjcu
@nutti
Good Evenin’ Dude
re:Stacy…WTF!!…I’m sure knowing Max as she does she is used to WTF moments by now…dunno maybe I need a break…because I haven’t had ‘WTF’ moment for a while…unless you count the nastzi sympathisers.
Marlon Brando Interview 1973 (Pt 1 of 6)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAPDQ5MlLxE
@youri
Mornin’ Ya’All
RE:be afraid etc…..sorry…but I am just getting taglines for film posters….but hey..youri stay calmer…and remember to try and always ‘Catch A Keepr’ otherwise the internet can just end up like fishing..ie throw the little ones back.
‘The doctor is right in his diagnoses when he tells his patient “You should go fishing” Meaning staring in the water all day and catch shit! These people are truly insane and can’t be helped beside putting tnem a long side the water to not cause any harm to society’
@Mr Supergeek
‘Apocalypse Now’…Are you Kid’n Me!?
PRAY FOR YOUR FATHER
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQ672prcUNM
@Youri
AH POOK THE DESTROYER
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2C5XuylNFLo
Dan Valley was right
Obama is Pook
We are in new times…
a new clock by which humanity sees only its vital parts
at best
nothing comes from within
for God is Dead
God is a worm in the rotting vegetable matter that we throw into the compost
a passive investor
a passive consumer
the zombie of creation’s aberration
(If Stacy is reading this string of 50, she’s probably wondering
WTF?!?!?!)
I support ON THE ROAD……
Keep spreading the truth!
Regards,
Joe
@Giuseppe Bagodonutti
I only like fishing effectively with a net or fly fishing the least.
The doctor is right in his diagnoses when he tells his patient “You should go fishing” Meaning staring in the water all day and catch shit! These people are truly insane and can’t be helped beside putting tnem a long side the water to not cause any harm to society.
Be afraid: mathematical modelling of zombie attacks
Scientists from University of Ottowa simulate ‘zombie’ outbreak (for real)
http://blogs.nature.com/news/thegreatbeyond/2009/08/be_afraid_mathematical_modelli.html
http://popularsymbolism.wordpress.com/2009/03/10/the-impact-of-zombies-on-society/
@youri
re: the horror…Wow!..I thought you would have seen ‘Apocalypse Now’….already!….please don’t go all capt.Kurtz on us……Oops I forgot you don’t talk to the captain you listen.
Dear Dan Valley,
Becuz of you,
I put on William S Burroughs’
DEAD CITY RADIO
I haven’t listened to it in 10 years
(maybe 7)
I blame you…
bastard!!!!
Ah Pook the Destroyer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2C5XuylNFLo
Don’t seem to have a lot of friends on seekingalpha logged…LOL!
Ah! Friends what are they good for anyways?
They only cost you precious coding time.
Maybe I’ll move to Japan they don’t seem to like friends either.
Japanese company does thriving trade in ‘fake friends’ http://tinyurl.com/nvmr9z
friendly REQUEST
if yourre /seekingalpha logged? PLEASE VOTE ME UP!
Commodities will keep rising http://tinyurl.com/kpx895
WEll TnX!
Much Apreciated!
@Skinny Scott
Gandhi, too!!!
He was ready to lead people unto their passive and ignorant DEATH, like sacred cattle!!!
That crazy pacifist !!!
@ YOURI………this is what an alien or anyoneone with the capacity for critical thinking would ponder of the the human race…………The Four Horsemen
of the Apocalypse
Back in 1980 novelist WILLIAM S. BURROUGHS addressed the Eco-Technic Institute.
A transcript of his ‘prophetic’(?) talk.
This article appeared in
New Dawn Magazine No. 37, July-August 1996
http://www.newdawnmagazine.com/Articles/Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse.html
By William S. Burroughs
I’m speaking here as a writer of fiction, and of course many of the hypotheses and theories and ideas
and suggestions that I will put forward may horrify a scientific audience. But they’re to be seen from a
fictional point of view. My subject is The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse, which were Famine,
Plague, War, and Death…
Portentous and purposeful as the priest advancing on a dying man to administer the Last Rites, so the four caballeros by
their solid presence indicate that Time has been called for that particular biologic or sociological experiment. Closing time,
gentlemen… dinosaurs bellow piteously, Famine saddles up his cayuse and gallops through swamplands leaving a
dustbowl behind him… and the outmoded dinosaurs subside into museum skeletons, gaped at by human spectators. And
the day of the spectators will come too.
At the present time, the situation of course with regards to the Four Horsemen is much more complicated than it was
before man appeared on the scene, there the most important Horseman was probably Famine. At the present time, the
subject of the experiment, in this case the human species, can to some extent control the conditions of the experiment,
but this isn’t such an advantage as one would think since they cannot control themselves. The human creature has
demonstrated through the centuries a stubborn disinclination to control himself. However, if I may indulge in whimsy, had
we been dinosaurs we might have built great dams to preserve supplies of water and protect our way of life and we might
have hunted down the despicable mammals as the egg-sucking rats they were. Some have advanced theories that the
mammals ate the dinosaurs’ eggs and undermined them that way though many other factors were at work in the
disappearance of the dinosaurs.
There is such basic disagreement as to how existing conditions can be altered, by exactly who and for the benefit of
whom, there doesn’t appear to be any sort of agreement. And stupidity and short-sighted self interest may well swamp
Spacecraft Earth before the Horsemen can saddle up. Meanwhile, the Spectral Riders are being eagerly wooed by the
CIA and similar agencies in other countries… wise, far-sighted men who will no doubt use their awesome knowledge of
Famine, Plague, War and Death for the good of all mankind.
“Put that joker Death on the line. Take care of Mao and that gang of cut-throats.”
Actually, Western society is so constructed as to concentrate the greatest power in the worst possible hands. See,
practically anything has military applications. So really the most important knowledge is now Top Secret classified.
Famine, seemingly the most fortuitous of the quartet, is transcending the caprices of weather, deforestation and
overpopulation and getting a new look. We can in fact extend the area of Famine to include the lack of any substance or
condition essential to the support of life. We can in fact create needs quite as overwhelming or compulsive as the need for
food and water. Drug addiction is of course an example of a biologic need artificially produced by the administration of
drugs. And no doubt drugs much more habit-forming than heroin could be produced in the laboratory by jiggering and
tinkering with the habit-forming molecules.
We now have substances which could be introduced into the water supply, or even in gaseous form into the enemy air,
that have no effect unless it is withdrawn. And then a battery of crippling symptoms would develop, reducing the enemy to
complete impotence. There are certain metabolic illnesses in which the subject is unable to absorb certain essential
vitamins and minerals no matter how much he ingests. In fact, it is not far-fetched to conceive of inducing metabolic
changes that would make the absorption of any nutriments impossible: no matter how much he eats the person would die
of starvation.
The alliance between War and Plague was cemented with the first germ experiments and in this area there have been a
number of interesting developments. Despite a lot of talk about discontinuing such experiments and closing down the
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biologic and chemical warfare centres, Fort Dietrich, in Maryland is now dedicated to cancer research. And cancer
research, incidentally, overlaps the more sophisticated areas of biologic weaponry.
As early as World War II, England had a Doomsday Bug which was a mutated virus produced by exposing such viruses
as hepatitis and rabies to radiation. Now we know that a number of experiments have been carried out on exposing fruit
flies to radiation. These experiments conclusively showed that there were no favorable mutations resulting from exposure
to radiation… certainly not on fruit flies. Now one wonders why they didn’t carry these experiments further and expose
microscopic and sub-microscopic life to radiation. The answer is, undoubtedly they did and are doing just that but it’s Top
Secret. It is difficult to believe that such a promising line of research was abandoned and disturbing to speculate where
that research is at the present time…
And there is an item from the London Times, 18th April, 1971:
“New Cancer Virus Made By Accident… A completely new virus, probably capable of producing cancer in humans, has
been made by accident in an American laboratory… Fears expressed by cautious scientists that such medical research
could inadvertently produce new human diseases instead of curing existing ones. The new agent was discovered by Dr.
Abramson of the National Cancer Institute, near Washington. Under special conditions, the mouse virus could be
persuaded to infect human cancer cells in a test tube, though the process was extremely inefficient. Dr. Abramson now
reports, in Nature, that the mouse virus has changed its nature. It has become highly infective to human cells and
completely non-infective to mouse cells.”
In other words, we have a permanent change. A major genetic change has occurred in the virus and what amounts to a
completely new virus has emerged. The virus has picked up a human gene and incorporated it, giving it the ability to
multiply readily in human cells. Sir Macfarlane Burnet, in The Lancet, sounds a word of warning, of the “almost
unimaginable catastrophe of a virgin soil epidemic involving all the populous regions of the world”. The age-old dream of a
selective pestilence is now within the reach of modern technology.
This is also from the London Times, about 1970:
“Ethnic weapons that wipe out one race and leave another unharmed could soon be developed, according to leading
geneticist. Carl Larsen (a Norwegian) said recently: ‘Ethnic weapons would employ differences in human genetic
configurations to make genetic variations which would make genocide a particularly attractive form of war.’ (I’m quoting,
this is not my opinion.) Writing in the U.S. Army Military Review, Larsen argues that enzyme levels can vary according to
race; the absence of certain enzymes can cause death. Enzyme deficiency could be exploited by chemical warfare.”
It would probably be possible to develop a chemical which will act as an enzyme inhibitor. Say you find an enzyme
inhibitor to which 90% of Europeans would be vulnerable, which affects only 10% of Africans. Since the inhibitor could tell
friend from foe, no matter how intermingled, it is the superselective military weapon. It is what all military thinkers dream
of. Larsen admitted that “more genetic research was needed before ethnic weapons became a practical reality,” but again
this was ten years ago.
Selection of course could be carried much further, even to the point of an illness that affects only people with certain traits
of character, since character is an expression of an overall metabolic configuration. That is, there is a rage metabolism, a
metabolism associated with covert hostility, and so on. So it would be possible to carry your selective pestilence much
further.
Well, it seems that War, Plague and Famine are merging. What about the Last Horseman… Death, a pale horse, a pale
rider? Can Death maintain a separation from the means by which Death is produced? Can he stay separate from the
horseman and get out there and do the job, or is the union between Death and the instrument of Death about to be
consumated? There are those who think so.
Herald-Tribune, June 8, 1970: “The Synthetic Gene Revolution.” This is the first synthetic gene by Dr. Hare Khorana, at
the University of Wisconsin. And there’s been a lot of research since. They’ve created an artificial gene; news that ranks
with the splitting of the atom as a milestone in our control or lack of control of the physical universe.
“It is the beginning of the end” – this was the reaction to the news from the science attache at one of Washington’s major
embassies. “If you can make genes you can eventually make new viruses for which there is no cure. Any little country with
good biochemists could make such biological weapons. It would only take a small laboratory.” If it can be done, someone
will do it. To be sure, it’s almost science fiction but science fiction has a bad habit of coming true. In fact, it frequently
surpasses the fact. The facts of science are now surpassing science fiction, and we have a lot of books that would be
classified as scientific fact: a novel like The Terminal Man, there’s nothing in there that isn’t within the reach of modern
technology.
Of course, the Gentlemen Riders have no meaning outside of human context, they are in fact human inventions. So let us
examine the human context.
The first thing that would impress a visitor from outer space would be the tremendous, inexplicable gap between potential
and performance. It’s amazing when you consider what the human organism could do in terms of its potential, and what it
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actually does. No species that isn’t fundamentally flawed could be so stupid this consistently. Let us consider the human
organism as an artifact. Comparative evolution will show us what is wrong with it and how far it has to go.
You have the first airplanes… now, take one look at that artifact and you see that everything is wrong with it. They were
incredibly dangerous, they had a very short range, and to be anything more than a curiosity it has a very long way to go…
So now up here’s your present planes and rockets and so forth… and all the steps in between… well now take an artifact -
see, we can see that this artifact is in a rudimentary stage and that it has a very long way to go, we could see that back
then. We don’t have to see all this development to know that if this is going to do anything at all it’s got to make a number
of forward steps. Now take an artifact like the bow I’ll put it up here – what’s wrong with it? Very little. It’s gone about as far
as you can go on the principle of a projectile propelled by an elastic spring – you can use rubber bands, it’s the same
principle. The artifact is subject to a basic limitation: the stronger the bow, the more energy required to draw it. It can’t go
very much further. Now of course modern bows have appeared and there are a lot of hobbyists who hunt with bows. They
kill bears and I think even lions, and undoubtedly these bows, modern bows, are much better than anything that people
had five hundred years ago. But they’re not all that much better. They’re not basically different or basically much better.
Now take another artifact down here, the flintlock rifle or pistol. Take one look at that artifact and ask yourself what is
wrong with it. Just about everything. They didn’t even have the firepower of the bow; they took much longer to load and
prepare them. They misfired very frequently; rain and wind would render the weapon quite useless – if rain gets in the pan
it won’t ignite. Black powder is dangerous, very much more volatile than smokeless powder. It’s very dangerous to
transport and use, static electricity will set it off; if you shuffled across the floor and picked up a canister of black powder
that would be a very dangerous thing to do – it’d blowup… So it has a very long way to go.
Up here to modern automatic weapons, another factor comes in and that’s the factor of money. Money and profit
becomes very important because as soon as an article goes into mass production they don’t want to know about a better
article. And they particularly don’t want to know about one that is basically different, because the most expensive thing a
manufacturer can do is to junk his dies. He’s got his dies set up to manufacture the very inefficient internal combustion
engine, he doesn’t want to shift to a turbine. So he will suppress inventions. Very useful inventions are now suppressed…
And we can also see living creatures as artifacts. When you take an artifact like the weasel, well what’s wrong with it?
Well, not much. It’s limited, but in terms of its structure and goals it functions well enough; it has reached the limit of its
development. And you look at the human artifact: what’s wrong with it? Just about everything, it’s right down here with the
flintlock… It’s got a long way to go.
First the question as to what distinguishes the human animal from other animals is one of the very frequent questions, and
Korzybski, who started the idea of general semantics, the meaning of meaning, had I think the best answer: it’s language.
But language must not be confused with communication. You see animals communicate and they talk, but they don’t
write. They can’t make knowledge available to members of their species outside their communication range. Everything
they learn they have to learn during their lifetime. Now a wise old rat will know a great deal about poisons and traps, but
he can’t write a treatise which other rats could read, he can’t pass that knowledge on to rats over here or to future
generations of rats… very fortunate… for us. Now to get back to the human artifact; one of the things that distinguishes
man is language, that animals talk but they don’t write. They’ve got no way of writing something down so that it can be
available through space and time. Actually, we know that some people don’t write, but the whole of human language they
can pass on orally, which animals cannot. Language is essentially a symbolic system where something represents
something else. You can’t draw a map, it doesn’t mean anything to an animal; you can’t get an animal to read a map, but
illiterate, so-called illiterate people can.
Well, let’s consider the human artifact and what is wrong with it. Consider a creature that can live on the seacoast,
watching ships come in, day after day, year after year, and still believe the Earth is flat because the Church says so. They
knew the Earth was round. They believed it was flat. Or an artifact that can use cannonballs for 500 years before the idea
of a cannonball that explodes on contact blossoms in this barren soil. I could go on and on.
So why has the human artifact stayed back with the flintlock? Well, I’m advancing a theory that we were not biologically
designed to remain in our present stage any more than a tadpole is designed to remain a tadpole. The human is in a state
of neotony – that’s a biologic word we’ve already heard from Dr. Lotsch used to describe an organism fixated at what
would normally be a larval or transitional phase. Now ordinarily a salamander starts his life cycle in the water with gills;
later the gills atrophy and drop off and the animal develops lungs and comes up to land: then they go back and spend the
rest of their lives in the water and they have to come up to breathe. Just why they do that I don’t know.
However, there are certain salamanders who never lose their gills and they never leave the water. Now they’d be
considered in a state of neotony. The Xolotl salamander, found in Mexico, is an example. And scientists, moved by the
plight of this beautiful creature gave him an injection of hormones, whereupon he shed his gills and left the water after
ages of neotony. Whether this was any advantage to him is another question. (Laughter). It does seem advantageous if
you’re gonna spend much of your time in the water to have gills, but evolution is a one-way street. Once you lose your
gills you can never get them back. I think it’s a little too much to hope we could be jolted out of neotony by a single
injection. But by whatever means the change takes place, if it does take place, the change will be irreversible. The Xolotl,
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of course, once he sheds his gills can never reclaim them. This law of evolution… I don’t know any reason for it but it
seems to be a law – the whales must have been on land at one time: they lost their gills and they never got them back.
Now when we consider these evolutionary steps, one has a feeling that the creature is tricked in a way into making them.
Now here is a fish that has survived droughts because he has developed feet or rudimentary lungs. As far as the fish is
concerned, the feet are simply a means of getting from one water source to another or of going down into the mud and
waiting out the drought. But once he leaves his gills behind he has made an involuntary step – I won’t say forward exactly -
but a step. Looking for water he has found air. And perhaps a forward step for the human race will be made in the same
way.
The astronaut is not looking for Space, he’s looking for more Time to do exactly the same things. He’s equating Space
with Time and the Space program is simply an attempt to transport all our insoluble problems, our impasses, and take
them somewhere else where exactly the same thing is bound to occur. However like the walking fish, looking for more
Time he may find space instead, and then find that there is no way back. Now such an evolutionary step would involve
changes literally inconceivable from our present point of view.
Many of these ideas I have incorporated into a novel on which I’m now working. I’ve had several titles for this novel, and
the title that I have more or less decided on in the course of this conference is Place of Dead Roads – Planet Earth. I’ll
read a few pages here…
“As a prisoner serving a life sentence can think only of escape, so Kim (this is my hero) took it for granted that the only
purpose of his life was Space travel. He thought of this as not so much a change of a locality but as a change of
dimension, the basic change of a being with all its surroundings like the switch from water to land. But you see, there had
to be the air-breathing potential first. That’s where you start. And what is it that you must alter in order to make these
changes.
“The first step towards Space exploration was to examine the human artifact with biologic alterations in mind that would
render our human artifact more suitable for Space conditions and Space travel. Now we are like water creatures looking
up from here at the earth and the air and wondering how we can survive in that alien medium. Fish didn’t have the
capacity to do that: we do. The water we live in is Time. That alien medium we glimpse beyond Time is Space. And that is
where we are going… Kim read all the science fiction books and stories he could find and he was stunned to find the
assumption, the basic assumption, that there is no real change involved in Space travel, same dreary people playing out
the same tired old roles. Take that dead act into Space. Now here they are light years from Planet Earth watching cricket
and baseball on a vision screen…. can you imagine taking their stupid pastimes light years into Space. It’s like the fish
said, ‘Well, I’m gonna just shove this aquarium up onto the land and there I’ve got everything I need…’ (laughter)… you
need entirely too much.
“Well, to begin with there is the question, of weight, the human organism weighs about 170 pounds and that is a decided
disadvantage. But also this breathing- eating-excreting-dreaming human organism must have its entire environment, its
awkward life process encapsulated and transported with it… into Space. And one wonders – Kim goes into his academic
act, letting his bifocals slip down onto his nose like a professor launching into a well-worn joke – one wonders, gentlemen,
if this crew doesn’t perhaps have a pet elephant essential to its welfare that it’s gonna take along…”
Now, regarding this question of weight, we have a model at hand of a much lighter body, in fact a body which is virtually
weightless and I’m referring to the astral dream body, which some scientists don’t believe in. But this model gives us a
clue to the changes we must undergo. When I say must, I am speaking not in moral, but in biologic terms. And the dream
also gives us insight into Space conditions. One of the more interesting facts of dream research, has established that
dreaming is a biologic necessity. You see, they can tell now when an animal or a person is dreaming by the brainwaves,
the REM waves, and research has established that if dream sleep is cut off every time they see sleep brainwaves they
wake the animal up – no matter how much dreamless sleep he is allowed, irritability, restlessness, hallucinations and
eventually coma, convulsions and death would result. He’d show all the symptoms of sleeplessness no matter how much
sleep he was allowed… I don’t know what Freud would have made of that… Kim saw dreams as a vital link to his biologic
and spiritual destiny in Space, and deprived of this airline he would die. The way to kill a man or a nation is to cut off their
dreams in the way that whites took care of the Indians, they cut off their dreams, their magic, and they tended to die out.
So I’m starting here with a basic assumption which of course many of you will, cannot accept: that our destiny – again I’m
talking about our biologic destiny – is in Space, and that our failure to achieve this is the basic flaw in the human artifact.
That’s why it’s back here, down here with the flintlock instead of being somewhere up here.
Youri- People don’t have evil “sides”, they most likely have diminished frontal lobes. “Good” and “Evil” are pretty simplified and archaic constructs, much like “heaven” and “hell”.
People do “evil” things, but they do them, usually, for extremely petty reasons. You could say people are simple-minded and petty and therefore do evil things, which would be closer to the mark.
One of the most evil people I’ve ever heard about was Mother Theresa.
Lordy was she an evil bitch.
Mistake Not trader Goldman Sachs but trator Goldman Sachs, sorry!
Marc Faber ( Dr. Realist and cerainly not like MSMs, who are Nihilists and name him Dr. Doom) said that Money is tightening. In my vieuw it could have been a tightened money supply all along cause just little of the 24 trill stimulus went into the real economy as this seems more and more likely now deflation is actualy happening and not only in the U.S. also Japan, China, the Netherlands etc..
We also must not forget that in a declining economy with a negative multiplier you can’t have inflation that easy and when credit money suply thightends for all kind of Banksters related reasons, deflation is not a surprise. Although oil prices make the main price desicions for all products for obvious reasons.
Commodities will keep rising cause there’s nowhere else to go with a, in the long term eventually and uninevitably, sliding dollar. Volatility has not to be confused with long term insides.
People and Countries only can turn to more “tangible goods” in last resort besides Silver and Gold. Commodeties will rise only on the simple fact that people have no where else to go.
The Stockmarket is a laughing stock were only some volatility traders remain beside the high velocity and frequency frontrunning trader Goldman Sachs.
My Comment on:
Despite PPI Decline, Breakfasts Aren’t Cheaper http://tinyurl.com/pscj96
@Youri
RE: Depressive Nature
There’s a couple type of people that Fish
Some just cast the rod into the water aimlessly,
hoping to bag a Carp…
Others put on the Polarized sunglasses
so they can peer through the reflective surface
and see the fish underneath…
Giuseppe Bagodonutti
However not many, who know me, would suspect cause of my depresive nature sometimes, I am indeed and truly an optimist.
But people often confuse my pure realistic views with unrealistic acording to their little pinky world and a lot of them are intelectuals too who think the should stay deformed by their work or pick of “friends” which best suits their “Happy Pappy Pinky Vieuw”.
But I like “They are indolent belly-button lint bong smokers”
But their bunche of so called intelectuals among them too.
@Youri
You’re too optimistic…
People aren’t nihilists
They are indolent belly-button lint bong smokers
But that’s what we are for…
Tell the People…
it’s the best we can do…
I spread the word
even to street denizens high on crack
(they are actually good disseminators of the Gospel)
it’s like this article on the Critical Mass of Enlightenment
http://deoxy.org/critmass.htm
eventually,
when enough people come to the realization,
then society EXPLODES in Consciousness
I’ve never met a true Nihilist
becuz they DON’T EXIST
RE:COCAINE TAINTED CASH
Old story…
I knew that shit when I was 9 years old…
I’m surprised the Ass-Munching Turd-Tokers are rehashing that story for their pathetic ratings…
90% of U.S. currency tainted with cocaine. Which city’s is the worst? – Los Angeles Times Blogs http://url4.eu/G6iD
People have become Nihilists
People think that if they stay in their little MSM invented tunnel vision world and just stay happy, everything will be allright.
In fact people became Nihilistic and don’t want to see the truth cause that disturbes their “Happy View” on the world.
They rather keep looking through pink glasses, be Koelee drinkers and stick their head in the sand.
Some of them don’t even there head from a hole in the ground and unfurtantely can’t be helped although we wish otherwise.
NIHILISM: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nihilism
@Youri
I’ve been under the assumption that aliens would assume Cows, Cats, and Dogs rule us…
We serve them…
@Mini US
It is a realy good theory, TnX!
@Giuseppe Bagodonutti “What would an alien think?”
An Alien would look at the earth and see that there are some strange beings picking up the shit for some wolf type being and would start thinking about “Who is actually in charge here?”
How do you think these people are going to hold up as things get really tough?
Squeaking by on $300,000
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/08/15/AR2009081502957_pf.html
@Your Carma.
I have a theory.
It goes…
“If you think you are good at something, chances are you are not as good as you think you are. Inversely, if you think you are bad at something, chances are you are better at it than you think you are”
Its like driving a car. Usually people who think they are good drivers are the worst drivwers and the ones who think they suck are really careful, etc.
Just a theory, but I agree that if you(one) think you are evil Chances are you probably aren’t as bad as you think. In fact you probably work harder at being ‘good’ knowing that you have an evil side (as you say we all do). Therefore are a good person, or at very least a better person than you think you are.
Take heart in my theory and smile
There is no Evil
There is no Good
It’s all just a relative thing
in y’all’s neighbourhood…
What would an alien think?
Why is this bag’o'blood
wiggling his dink?
A personal message about Evil
I know what Evil is cause I’ve bin there. Not literally but learing by knowing thyself. Everybody has an evil side even if they know it or not.
And from what I’ve envisioned from my bad side, “Oh boy, you don’t wonna be there” I can tell you!
People who have this knowledge of themselves know this is true but they are better able to control this for the better or, like some of them unfortunately, for the worse.
So we not only have to fight this “homo homini lupus” Wolf (Lupus) inside ourselves but also in other people who are not aware and awake.
I’ve been on the Island Patmos where Johannes wrote his new testimonies ” Revelations.” I’ve seen things you people wouldn’t believe.
From my own personal expieriences I know there is more “between heaven and earth” than many suspect and I am not the only one.
Remember God only helps those who help themselves.
Let the force be with you my friends.
I’ve you read this you know your the resistants
End of Message
Youri Carma
SAY there…
How does the PMF actually process funding?
I don’t see any PAYPAL icons or the like…
although I “reserved” a copy…
but the funding is still ZERO
(yah, I know… it’s still BETA)
Re: previous post…
“Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez has expressed fears the move would amount to preparation for an invasion of his country by US forces.”
More of “Its For Your Own Good” talk from shiny orange Hilary.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8208683.stm
Update on RBA money printing investigation.
http://www.theage.com.au/national/investigations/witch-bank-the-reserve-of-course-20090818-ep49.html
Bond issuance bursts through $1,000bn: Global corporate- bond issuance has surged risen above the $1,000bn mark .. http://tinyurl.com/ozhgdb
Tight credit keeps activist investors sidelined http://tinyurl.com/qdnu34
Where did Annie go,
when she went to town,
who are all those creeps,
that she brings around?
ALL YOUR CHILDREN
ARE POOR UNFORTUNATE VICTIMS
OF LIES YOU BELIEVE…
A PLAGUE UPON YOUR IGNORANCE
THAT KEEPS THE YOUNG
FROM THE TRUTH THEY DESERVE
(insert delicious piano free-form intro here)
Friday, August 14, 2009 “The World’s Source for Global Temperature Record Admits It’s Lost or Destroyed All the Original Data That Would Allow a Third Party to” Model Climate
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2009/08/worlds-source-for-global-temperature.html
EATING HEALTY FOOD IS AN DISORDER? The world is getting crazier and crazier every day! http://tinyurl.com/n3yprk
If even MSM begins to admit we are led by mad man lets you know that the shit realy starts hitting the fan!
EDITORIAL: Obama’s mad science adviser (The Washington Times) http://tinyurl.com/otxpg5
Evidence for Recombination of Live, Attenuated Immunodeficiency Virus Vaccine with Challenge Virus to a More Virulent Strain http://tinyurl.com/qvx2og
Here’s a good song for the Oligarchs (swankers)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-lBckzLwhE
Corrupt, you’re corrupt,
and Bring corruption to all that you touch.
Hold, you’ll behold,
And be holden for all that you’ve done.
And Spell, cast a spell,
Cast a spell on the country you run.
And risk, you will risk,
You will risk all their lives and their souls.
And burn, you will burn,
You will burn in hell, yeah you’ll burn in hell.
You’ll burn in hell, yeah you’ll burn in hell for your sins.
And our freedom’s consuming itself,
What we’ve become is contrary to what we want
Take a bow.
Death, you bring death and destruction to all that you touch.
Pay, you must pay
You must pay for your crimes against the earth.
Hex, feed the hex
Feed the hex on the country you love
And Beg, you will beg
You will beg for their lives and their souls.
Yeah,
Burn, you will burn,
You will burn in hell, yeah you’ll burn in hell,
You’ll burn in hell, yeah you’ll burn in hell,
Burn in hell, yeah you’ll burn in hell for your sins.
“According to Mihalovic, “there is only one thing that happens when you are injected with a vaccine. You introduce a biological and chemical toxin which degrades your immune system.”
The letter from the UK Health Protection Agency, the official body that oversees public health, was leaked to a national newspaper (The Mail) leading to demands to know why the information regarding a deadly nerve disease has not been given to the public before the vaccination of millions of people, including children, begins.
It tells the neurologists that they must be alert for an increase in a brain disorder called Guillain-Barre Syndrome (GBS), which could be triggered by the vaccine. GBS attacks the lining of the nerves, causing paralysis and inability to breathe, and can be fatal.
The letter, sent to about 600 neurologists on July 29, is the first sign that there is concern at the highest levels that the vaccine itself could cause serious complications.
For more than six months now, various reports primarily from alternative media have been sprouting with information on the ineffectiveness of vaccines in handling any flu, not just the H1N1 flu. Mihalovic agrees, “It offers no protection whatsoever from any virus. If anything, it will only create disease either immediately, or within a person’s lifetime.”
From: Vaccines Are Producing The Pandemic, Not The Flu http://tinyurl.com/p4e9hu
Vaccines Are Producing The Pandemic, Not The Flu http://tinyurl.com/p4e9hu
Me: “I’ll put in for a Stacy video. I need to know that its gonna be funny and damaging to Goldman Sachs!”
Stacy: “No problemo”
Ooops
The link…..
http://www.youtube.com/user/PeterSchiffChannel
These guys are awful commentators.
All of a sudden Peter Schiff is a guru again. He’s been saying the same for 5 years.
They laugh at him when the market goes up, then when it drops 2% they love him.
They JUST DON’T GET IT.
At least this episode they are letting him talk and have started to listen….until the stock market goes up again – Then they will start laughing again.
The guy at the end blames his clients for making him a dickhead. Ha!
Fickle Fuckers!!!
I’d like to help finance projects. Will it be possible to use a bank debit card (interac) to do so or will I need a credit card?
After all my griping about people financing their enemies, it’ll be nice to be able to help finance a vid of Max’s.
Re Vaccine.
The ‘powers that be’ are just laughing at us.
“Hey, the general public are so stupid lets inject them with poison – Watch them lap it up”
The scary thing is that mostly they are correct!
@Giuseppe Bagodonutti
Don’t know. I am still studying this subject among many others so I am slowely gaining knowledge. I’ve talked to a dude who works in the medicine making Industry so I could catch up a little.
Thimerosal is used as a conserver of the Vaccin but also had a second reason which I learned from my “medicine man.”
Sometimes the eggs in which the make some vaccins where contaiminated themselves with some undisirable bacterie, virus, disease like Salmonella for instance. To be sure to kill off those undesirables they decided to use Thimerosal. This shows that they themselves admit it’s a poison.
These medicie man make a lot of these kind of desicions like “OK, it’s poiseness but at least it’s clean of other Virusses.” Nowadays they could produce Vaccins whitout the poiseness Thimerosal but that’s more expensive so that’s why mainly in the huge stocks of Vaccins like anti-flu and very common Tetanus vaccins you’ll still will find this Thimerosal adjective. In Sweden they’ve completely banned out vaccins containing Thimerosal.
In fact it’s perfectly normal, acording to my source, that a produced vaccin is conteminated with a lot of undesirable visrusses bacteries and what do you have’s. That’s why, my source told me, that they developed a literally golden Nano filter which no virus is small enough to pass.
Interview with Dr. Russell Blaylock on devastating health effects of MSG, aspartame and excitotoxins http://www.naturalnews.com/020550.html
Merk drug company vaccines admits injecting cancer viruses
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=327_1195303011
David Cameron: ‘British Government could default on its debts’
Gordon Brown is running the risk that the British Government will be unable to pay back the money it is borrowing from international investors, the Conservative leader said.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/david-cameron/6050271/David-Cameron-British-Government-could-default-on-its-debts.html
Democracy is dead in Wall Street’s new ‘Socialism for The Rich’
This is a historic government coup: The GOP created a new “American Socialism” that resembles Russia under Putin, with its bizarre blend of socialism plus just enough hint of capitalism to keep a steady flow of kickbacks to a corrupt dictator and his moneyed cronies.
At high levels the game reminds me of Bush looking deep into the Putin’s eyes and getting “a sense of his soul” (the “soul” of a former KGB agent and communist enemy of America?) Just as Bush failed to see the true “soul” of Russia’s boss, Congress and today’s Main Street America cannot see the hidden “soul” of the new “American Socialism” being created by the Goldman Conspiracy, banks and their political pawns.
http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/08/goldman-sachs-american-socialism-manifesto/
This from Mark Denninger. I thought you’d all really appreciate this so I’m pasting the lot. This guy is super bright and he’s pleading with America here. He’s clearly had enough.
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Will It All Come Tumbling Down?
Let’s juxtapose two stories. First, from Bloomberg:
Aug. 14 (Bloomberg) — More than 150 publicly traded U.S. lenders own nonperforming loans that equal 5 percent or more of their holdings, a level that former regulators say can wipe out a bank’s equity and threaten its survival.
Ok. Now how about this one?
WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) — Delinquency rates for loans and leases at U.S. banks increased to a record 6.49% in the second quarter from 5.58% in the first quarter, the Federal Reserve announced Monday.
So let me see if I get this right.
At 5% of non-performing loans a bank is at risk of being insolvent.
But the entire banking system in The United States had its non-performing loan ratio increase from 5.58% in the first quarter to 6.49% in the second, a record, and higher than the 5% level at which the survival of a bank(ing system) is threatened with collapse.
Hmmmm…. So should we take from this that the entire US Banking System is about to collapse?
This much we know for certain – you’re being screwed – systematically – to cover the sins of these banksters who made loans to people who they had no reason to believe could pay:
Being in debt is about to get a lot more expensive for millions of Americans. Credit card issuers have been rushing to raise rates in advance of this Thursday, when the first provisions of the Credit Card Accountability Responsibility and Disclosure Act (CARD) will go into effect, with other protections starting in February 2010.
Right. Including those who are good credit risks.
This is the problem with allowing the blatant and outrageous fraud in our system to continue: Those who are prudent, who have done only good and not bad things, get reamed repeatedly and are forced, at gunpoint, to pay for the sins of those who committed that fraud.
Yet we, as Americans, permit this.
We absorb 20, 25, 30% interest rates (while the banks borrow at zero) so the bank executives who knowingly granted credit to those who could not pay, then sold worthless securities to investors, do not go to prison for fraud.
We pay more than $30 billion in overdraft charges and allow banks to “shuffle” deposits and withdrawals to generate the maximum in these fines so that the bank executives who are knowingly mis-marking “assets” at higher than their true values can “cover” their sin and do not go to prison for fraud.
We pay the FDIC “assessments” and “loans” from Treasury, as taxpayers and banking customers, so that the FDIC can repay depositors after it absorbs a loss that it should not have incurred – a loss that happened because OTS, OCC and the FDIC failed to close banks in a timely manner that were cooking the books when they either knew or will willfully blind to the control fraud taking place at these institutions.
The Fed says that:
Demand for loans continued to weaken across all major categories except for prime residential mortgages.
The American people are wising up, but only to a degree. They are refusing to take on new credit (as they should, seeing as they’re being charged not only for their own legitimate level of risk, but also for their next door neighbor who was intentionally given a loan that the bank knew he could not pay) and demanding in some small way that The Bezzle be eradicated.
The people recognize they’re being violated repeatedly by the scam artists on The Beltway and Wall Street, but they’re not quite sure how to stop it. Certainly, hollering at Congress hasn’t done any good. The Fed has refused to enforce consumer protections, as has Treasury, and both have done their damndest to overrule state regulations and even State Attorney Generals whenever possible.
Here’s reality folks:
The system still has too much non-performing debt in it, and that percentage is going up, not down.
It is getting worse, not better.
The only reason we have any “resemblance” of a functioning credit system at all at the present time is that the government and Fed are pumping upwards of $250 billion dollars a quarter – that is, $1 trillion a year – into the system to subsidize bad credit risks and keep those who have been and are getting screwed by these frauds – so long as they’re other banks and businesses – from having to bear the cost of these acts.
Instead of locking up the bank robbers (who wear a $3,000 suit instead of a kevlar vest and a gun) we are covering their theft with taxpayer money.
Instead of removing the embezzlement from the system and forcing fraud into the open, we are sweeping it under the rug.
Instead of demanding that people do business honestly and punishing those that refuse, we are allowing them $100 million dollar bonuses – after they run the price of your Granny’s Heating Oil up once again.
Tired of it yet?
It appears not.
But there is a mathematical limit to this sort of papering over of control frauds. It cannot go on forever; we do not have the ability to tax or borrow an infinite amount of money. Unemployment will not ease and true production and consumption cannot resume at a normal level when a trillion dollars or more is being stolen every year to cover up these scams.
Ultimately the tax base and borrowing capacity will both collapse.
We will come to the end of this rope, and before we do we had better flush the system of these shysters and con artists or our economy will disassemble itself in a spectacle far worse than what you saw last fall and into March of this year.
Of that I am certain.
16% of our working-age population is unemployed but looking for work. Nearly 30% of people 16 to 19 years of age are out of work but desire a job.
Why aren’t those people in Washington DC? Whether they have to hitchhike, carpool, take a bus – why aren’t they on the steps of the Capitol? Why aren’t they on The Mall? Why have these millions of individuals who have been screwed, blued and tattooed by the thieving ways of the banksters and fraudulent accounting that our government and “business interests” have engaged in not shown up to press their demand for redress of grievances?
Have we really turned into Prozac Nation? Is American Idol really that powerful? Have we become so immune to being ripped off over the last 30 years that when a bank re-orders our transactions to turn a $30 overdraft charge into $300 worth of fees on $50 worth of checks we’re willing to simply bend over the table, place a stick between our teeth and take it, then ask “please Sir, may I have another?”
Or will we witness America turn to something more destructive – events that I’m hearing about more and more – civil unrest?
This has not yet turned to rioting, but in Chicago neighborhoods there are now crimes happening in areas – such as Lincoln Park – that were unheard of just a year or two ago (and when I lived there) – men being mugged, from behind, by gangs, being robbed and severely beaten (hattip Janet Tavakoli for bringing this to my attention.)
There are a few people who are taking notice. Like this gentlemen:
No, that’s not someone about to commit an act of lawless violence. It is a man exercising his lawful Second Amendment right in a state that recognizes same – the right to keep and bear arms. He demonstrated, lawfully, while President Obama gave a speech in Phoenix. There was no violence, no shooting, just free speech coming from signs and mouths – and a polite society in which ideas were exchanged, backed up by the indelible yet unspoken statement: This demonstration WILL be and remain peaceful and I pledge my honor and, if necessary, life to guarantee every man and woman’s right to same.
As expected “the mainstream media” considered this gentlemen “a threat.” Perhaps he is, but not in the way they’d like you to believe. Certainly, he’s a threat to anyone who might commit an act of random (or not-so-random) violence in that crowd! Certainly, he’s a guardian of freedom and the right to peaceable assembly and speech. Would you try to mug him walking down a street in Lakeview? Oh hell no. But you’ll never see that gentleman in the Lakeview neighborhood in Chicago because Chicago, unlike Phoenix, refuses to recognize your right to defend not only yourself but others as well, and as a consequence only the criminals are armed.
Certainly this gentleman is a threat – to a government that would run roughshod over people and ignore The Constitution and the lawful limits to its power, to a corporatist culture that has become imbued with fraud, deceit and lies, and to the heathens in Washington DC, all of them, who have knowingly and willfully cooperated with the lawless behavior of those who not only got us into this mess but refuse to this very day to put a stop to it.
Folks, wake the hell up. If you’re going to get mad and swear to “get even” with “the man”, do so in a constructive fashion and channel that anger where it will do some good!
Do you want an America where your children cannot go to college without taking on $100,000 in debt? Where you can be taxed not by a government but by a bank to cover your neighbor’s bad loan – when the very same bank gave him that loan knowing he couldn’t pay it back? Where so-called “regulators” actively conspire to cook the books of a major thrift (IndyMac) which then fails, costing you – via FDIC assessments – billions of dollars? Where none of these acts of control fraud are prosecuted and in fact they are defended by our government going to court to block state law enforcement from protecting your rights?
What sort of nation do you tolerate, America? What sort of nation are you willing to live in?
Will you finally rise from your chair and demand that it stop when unemployment reaches 20%?
30%?
When you have no food in the pantry and no money to buy some?
When you are mugged and beaten, with the thieves stealing your cell phone and a mere $20 while walking home from the subway stop, or as you leave your local watering hole after a friendly drink? Or will you wait until you’re walking home from the corner grocer with a loaf of bread, purchased with your last $2, and are mugged by marauders who are hungrier than you – in a city that refuses to recognize your right of self-defense.
How high does your interest rate have to go on your credit cards – while your bank borrows the money it lends you at zero percent – before you cut ‘em all up and send ‘em to the bank with a picture of your erect middle finger instead of a payment?
How long will you sit while both Democrat and Republican lie to you about how the “bailouts” and “handouts” will help the economy. Has all this grift helped? Did the “stimulus” keep unemployment from going higher as was promised? Did you really get help with your mortgage or were you offered a scam “forbearance” that amounts to the back-end loading of your balance, turning it into a balloon note or worse? Have you enjoyed watching JP Morgan and other big banks that got tens of billions of taxpayer dollars lease tankers and then bid up the price of oil – causing it to double – with your tax money? How about The Fed and Treasury funneling tens of billions in taxpayer money through AIG to a literal “who’s who” of big banks so they could in turn pay billions in bonuses?
All of this obviously meets with your approval as demonstrated by your actions: You still sit back and pop a beer, you go about your daily routine, you refuse to rise from your chair and demand: STOP THE LOOTING AND START PROSECUTING, finally willing to back that up with your sacred honor – or more.
Sometimes I wonder what our nation will stand for – exactly where the breaking point is where we finally force the right things to be done. The right choices. Whether the time will come where we force the barons both inside the beltway and out to face the music for their sins.
Is it 10% unemployment? 15? 20? 1/3rd of our nation out of work and hungry?
Is it 2 million foreclosures, three, six, ten, thirty?
Is it credit card rates at 20%, 30, 50?
Will we submit to the jackbooted foot of the scammers and frauds on our collective necks, both in business and in DC, until our children starve and our grandmothers, mothers and fathers are shoveled in the hole, dead and cold?
Does America still truly have the capacity, as a people, as a nation, to get angry? To demand redress of grievance? To call, support, and honor a general strike? To take up, keep and bear arms not to commit violence but to stand shoulder-to-shoulder as our Constitution recognizes as our God-given right to prevent violence against not only ourselves but our neighbors – any and all of them? To peacefully occupy The Capitol and shut it down – not to loot, pillage or destroy, but to force the cessation of all commerce in an unmistakable and singular statement: This far you have gone, and you shall take not one step further until each and every guilty man and woman is under indictment, the institutions and businesses responsible are closed, and the ill-gotten gains returned.
Do we still have what it takes to make that happen? Do we have any more Rosa Parks’ in America? Any Dr. Kings?
Or is all we have left in us a descent into random lawlessness – civil unrest, or even full-scale riots where the looting and burning is not of the banks and others who have robbed America, but of the random store-owner, house or car – simply because it’s there?
I fear for my nation and her future.
I fear we have too few men like that gentleman in Arizona and too many muggers in Lakeview.
We live in a nation where our government’s founding documents formally recognize the supremacy not of the government, but of the people. Where government exists only by the consent of the governed.
Not of, by and for the corporation, but of the individual.
Not by the rule of man, but the rule of law.
http://market-ticker.denninger.net/
But those are just words on parchment, over 225 years old.
Does the will and the desire to bring those words to life still exist? To render them something more than dry, old, cracked ink?
233 years ago there was.
Does it still exist in America today?
@youri
Any idea what TYPE of vaccine they are trying to “fast-track” ?
(it wasn’t mentioned in the article)
If it’s just another variety of the egg-based vaccines, then WHAT DA FUQ are they doing????
They should be fast-tracking the VLP vaccines, if anything (no mercury, no RNA, no Bullshit)
Of course, the Big Pharma Lobbyists won’t let upstarts like Novavax or Medicago get in there with their NEW-science, until they kill off a few million people first….
gotta protect the profits of Glaxo et al.
Those ignorant scumbags!!!!!!!!!!
A pox on their house of ill-repute!!!!
What was that Zappa lyric… Oh yah
ALL YOUR CHILDREN ARE POOR UNFORTUNATE VICTIMS OF SYSTEMS BEYOND THEIR CONTROL
A PLAGUE UPON YOUR IGNORANCE & THE GRAY DESPAIR OF YOUR UGLY LIFE
–”What’s the ugliest part of your body”
from “We’re only in it for the money”
I think God is a passive investor…
probably puts Hir money on the 3x Bear Humanity ETF
(and the Tent-City REIT)
@Youri:
Paul Krugman is a fundamentalist who adheres to Keysnian economics. Keysnian economics is insane.
Leaked letter reveals neurologists concerns over Swine Flu vaccine http://tinyurl.com/nd63yl
Swine Flu vaccine already linked to a deadly disease http://tinyurl.com/nem6ek
“Vanderbilt H1N1 pediatric vaccination clinical trial will start August 19. http://tinyurl.com/mxg3n3
Please read, send, and forward..if you agree:
A Letter To Chairman Shapiro Of The SEC
http://jsmineset.com/2009/08/18/a-letter-to-chairman-shapiro-of-the-sec/
@All, Anything but Green
Screw those stupid americans. Screw the climate discussion. We are morons for wasting any more webactivity on them. Runaway global warming is now a fact of life.
http://tinyurl.com/mnl3jb
It can only be stopped by a nuclear winter combined with serious carbon reabsorption, or truly concerted effort in greening and algae production. Either impossible or unlikely.
Prepare for a dry world without fish or most other species, all because todays commercial interest has our governments by the balls. We fead dominance of other countries? Who cares! Ban fossil fuels now. Stop burning biomass. I’m as disgusted about this as Max is about GS..
Prove that Americans got completely crazy:
Should 3-Year-Olds Take Antidepressants? http://tinyurl.com/qovlk9
Brad Neely, America, Now – Topic: Health
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQ0Sys0ySkE
Polio surge in Nigeria after vaccine virus mutates http://tinyurl.com/luof36
Paul Krugman Is Insane (Above)
http://www.lewrockwell.com/daughty/mogambo23.1.html
@Wake up everyone …. where are you ?
Moon Landing Hoax – Wires Footage
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdMvQTNLaUE&feature=rec-HM-fresh+div
Seems purely stupid articles are popping up all over today:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/19/education/19college.html?ref=us
@danny…good article..thanks
Cleetus don’t done gut it: he’un drinks Mountain Dew and spits. If’un you can spit, den yaz alright!
@Sharon:
Purely stupid article, isn’t it?
Spelt: Alimentarius.
@frances……..that’ll be one of the lead-ups to Codex Alimintarius!
Have ya’ll seen any Orthorexia nervosa sufferers? I haven’t seen tainy round here!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2009/aug/16/orthorexia-mental-health-eating-disorder
Nationwide revolt against mass swine flu vaccination accelerates (United Kingdom)
The nationwide revolt against government plans to implement a mass swine flu vaccination program in the United Kingdom has picked up steam, with a poll revealing that a third of NHS nurses will refuse to take the shot.
http://news.uk.msn.com/uk/article.aspx?cp-documentid=149226602
http://www.prisonplanet.com/nationwide-revolt-against-mass-swine-flu-vaccination-accelerates.html
Old Senate Document on the Banking System (1939)
National Economy and the Banking System. BY ROBERT L. OWEN Former Chairman, Committee on Banking and Currency, United States Senate
also called, Senate Doc. 23, 76th Congress, 1st Session.
Woodrow Wilson’s famous quote is cited in there (search for Dominant Men, I believe page 100 on the document page numbers and 106 in the pdf)
http://www.archive.org/download/Nati…kingSystem.pdf
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/18/business/18taxes.html?_r=1&ref=business
Tax man.
@frances……….Re: @Dedo’s post: ……..Here’s my input,..
Never say what you can grunt. Never grunt what you can wink. Never wink what you can nod, never nod what you can shrug, and don’t shrug when it ain’t necessary. : )
No, he ain’t coming.I’d end up hitting him over the head with something!
Here’s my input,..
Never say what you can grunt. Never grunt what you can wink. Never wink what you can nod, never nod what you can shrug, and don’t shrug when it ain’t necessary. : )
Thanks Mother!
Cleetus he’un is my cuz. Got plenty of them round here: ain’t no forks in my family tree!
@frances……………who’s Cleetus? Don’t go inviting people without consulting me – this is a joint venture!
@Sharon
I could hook Dedo up with one of the local ladies that chew round here.
@Sharon
I’d say the mediterranean (cote d’azur) has a completely different outlook. Pretty dry, but still next to the sea..I’d look in to it..
You two and Cletus will make a great couple
@Sharon:
Aluminum changes ph in ponds(makes them acidic)…strange it’s in the vaccine…
http://www.springerlink.com/content/t7386725417162k5/
ph alkaline is a detriment to the growth of bacteria
don’t know just saying
@frances………….It’s my pseudonym. Should I get a copyright for it?
I knew you were a ‘she’, I wouldn’t have suggested it to a ‘he’ coz in my experience they’re a pain in the ass. It’s all in jest although I think we should take up Dedo’s offer of looking after the pigs coz he can be entertaining too. He could live in the sty with the pigs.
@Dedo:
Sorry, no can do. Cleetus is looking after the pigs.
Can’t answer for Sharon.
@Frances,…..and a partridge in a pear tree,.
Do a dedo,……I feel a song a comin’
Sorry Mother, last question on this. Will all of France escape the effects of climate change, or just the north?
@Sharon & Frances,…..can I look after the pigs for ya!!
It’s my pseudonym. Should I get a copyright for it?
@frances…Don’t do a ‘Dedo’ on me………(you’re confusing me), who is Mr Snoot?
@Sharon
‘Escape clmate change’, eh, yes. The only risk to nothern europe is a colder climate due to the stopping of the north atlantic conveyor belt…
You can still find nice places around Reims, but beware, it is very, very quiet
I’m curious about the plot of Stacys Road movie..something like Fear and Loathing?
@Mother Earth…..Wow! In Britain you’d be paying around 3000 euro for something similar. To buy a place with 4 acres would cost about 500k euro here in Britain. Will France escape the fallout from climate change in the same way as Britain apparantly will?
LOL
Sharon:
Froggie went a courtin:
http://lyricsplayground.com/alpha/songs/a/afrogwentacourtin.shtml
I’m afraid I cccccan’t run away with you. Mr. Snoot is a she! And she has five dogs, two cats, two birds, and a rump knee.
sigh
Copyright and patents take ideas and visions and turns them into property. Then you need to buy or rent it, even if it is not original or inventive. I’d say an inventor or artist deserves some credit for his/her creations, but that social/monetary reward is overrun by the copyright/patent laws that are made to protect and exclude market participants to the detriment of the creative proces and human technological progress.. Now if it wasn’t for the banks the competition would be a lot less fierce and all these sharky tactics wouldn’t even have to come into play..
@Sharon
You can rent the place
@Max
Re: PMF
Can you explain your copyright thing a little more? Also, where can I get info on how it works? I mean is PMF simply a place where people can invest in a film/documentary? Or, do they host the movie and take download/advertising fees or what? I need to understand the model.
Thanks
Hey frances, shall we go to France?
Based on what Mother Earth says:-
Someone calculated one can live in the 4 acre farm in France for 200 Euro a month. And it has internet!
@sharon
Yes … although this may not happen for at least 50 / 100 years, my guess is that if the 3rd world countries also become “industrialized” with similarly hight pollution , we could reach a “tipping point” where the current “stable equilibrium” becomes an unstable one.
Mother Nature cannot be beaten by mankind’s pathetic ego.
BTW in Kenya, Lion’s due for extinction is 20 years .
Joni Mitchel : “We paved paradise … and put up a parking lot” !
@Snoot
It may depend on the tent lady as well, but I do prefer the (abundantly) fertile regions of the planet.. Someone calculated one can live in the 4 acre farm in France for 200 Euro a month. And it has internet!
@ Phil, so are you agreeing with my assumption of what you meant, ie. that there is no longer the means to make enough oxygen coz we’re killing the things that absorb CO2 and convert it into oxygen? And that although CO2 enables vegetation to flourish, which in turn would produce oxygen, the fact is that the vegetation can’t grow quickly enough?
Thanks for your insights, I just want to get my head around this one because I think you’re onto something. It makes more sense than most of what I’ve read/heard.
@Sharon:
Thanks!!!
You would be entertaining me though!
That vaccine sound gunky.
@frances…………..If you haven’t sold your house yet, perhaps you would like to swap me for mine?
No frances, sorry your gov is insane! I love America but right now I would not choose to live there coz the lunatics have taken over the asylum imho. However, if it gets really crazy you can come and live here – you could keep me entertained with your intellect.
@Dante:
“Ultimately the tax base and borrowing capacity will both collapse.”
Denninger’s right!
I’m a fan of road movies (quite literally)..Here, crossing the Alps along the Alexander the Great route (with music I first heart in Paris)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xt_bguIi5j4&feature=channel
@sharon … where’s Phil
Copied from older thread :
@sharon .. ” Hope this makes sense.”
Yes … we are destroying the CO2 entities like marshes, rain forests etc. etc. while our ozone protection diminishes killing plankton ( bottom of the sea’s food chain ).
I could imagine a stable equilibrium could become an unstable one at the rate things are moving – i.e. a sudden “flip” and a fast catastrophy.
BTW .. did you know that the oceans’ jellyfish population is literally exploding – thanks to pollution.
First H1N1 Vaccine Patent filled by Baxter in 2001
This invention describes an influenza virus vaccine containing an influenza virus antigen obtained from a cell culture, with an influenza virus antigen content between 1 g and 5 g per dose and aluminum as an adjuvant as well as a method for its preparation.
Inventors: Otfried Kistner, Noel Barrett, Wolfgang Mundt, Friedrich Dorner
Assignee: Baxter Aktiengesellschaft
Primary Examiner: Laurie Scheiner
Patent number: 6372223
Filing date: Jun 12, 2001
Issue date: Apr 16, 2002
Application number: 9/787,322
Go to
http://www.google.com/patents
And enter patent number 6372223 in the search bar.
Also check out# 5911998
Method of producing a virus vaccine from an African green monkey kidney cells
@AnythingbutGreen:
Eating his own words would make the best laxative.
@MotherEarth:
Sounds like heaven:
http://nikiraapana.blogspot.com/2008/12/diy-winter-camping-in-alaska-what-it.html
@ Frances Snoot
Oh, Frances, see what happens when curiosity gets the better of you? Sorry, but you’ve given me quite the laugh. You weren’t supposed to have bothered to whip out your red pen to tear those articles apart.
Poor Mr. Pouzzner..With a name like that, is it any wonder that he’s a bit clogged up? As you might suspect, the articles were suggested as short cuts for Phil and Sharon, given their interest in the 2012 op. I agree with the points you make (except the Plato one maybe), but hope those can be overlooked for the info provided.
In future I’ll try to select writers who have regular bowel movements.
Syndicated columnist Robert Novak dead at 78
Ya MONEEEEeeeyy?!???
pirate my film is legal file sharing
it’s a way to push back against the copyright cartel
intellectual property rights is the most important of all social issues, imo
goldman sachs predatory algorithms are patented for example.. they have a patented bank stealing technology.. the best way to defeat them is to defeat them is to rewrite patent laws
fox news feeds their BS and frenzy based on monopoly rent from their copyright cartel position on films and TV.
defeeat Newscorp by re-writing copyright
join the pirate parites of UK and Sweden
beta.piratemyfilm.com is just a few hours into the beta test.. plenty of issues to resolve
BIG THANKS to ptah of the mkc community for helping me create pmf -
@Dedo:
Ah. You’ve sussed me out.
Since I now have the prerogative, might I mention Rednecks, door flying off like the Wizard of Oz during a hurricane, ground termites, toothless hags in shacks called houses, magic mushroom encounters, red ants that attack mercilessly, and drug lords dwelling in foreclosed homes.
Oh, and the Pillsbury dough-white sheriff that ticketed me on my birthday.
@Sharon:
If you haven’t sold your house yet, perhaps you would like to swap me for mine?
btw. prerogative is a bugger to spell
UK faces file-sharing crackdown
http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9595_22-332139.html
Peter Mandelson, UK’s secretary of state for business, innovation and skills, is planning a major crackdown on illegal file-sharing, according to reports over the weekend.
Why can’t that slug crawl under a rock somewhere and then we could surround it with salt so he doesn’t ever come back out?
@Danny – !!
e.g. ‘We’re all individuals!!’
@Snoot – I looked up YERT on Google, came up with a funny site.. http://www.yert.com/ So I tried to link my weekend impressions from the farm (lots of cows, buls, fresh fruit, nuts and veggies in beautifull france), but allas, I bought a crap camera that makes unappendable avis..
@Dedo – !!!
@Mike – ??
Where’s @Phil…I need him to answer my question on previous topic.
@frances re: Dedo’s post:………..@Frances,…….moan, moan,.moan….typical woman!!
Will you slap him or shall I?
@Mike,…..don’t go dude,….
@Frances,…….moan, moan,.moan….typical woman!!
Ok, whats going on? Is it the Michael Hudson article? – yeah its awesome!
I would like to thank Mr Max Keiser for his great insight into the financial markets and the open comments on his site.
Great job dude!!
However this will be my last post best of luck MAX!!!
Max Stacy Danny !!?
@Danny – !!
@Max – ??
@Mother Earth:
I intended to intent but ended up in a house instead with rising taxes, failing septic, sandy well water, cane toads, dusty roads, mosquitoes up the cazoo, and environmental pollutant scare! Where’s my yert?
@Danny – !!
the reserve bank of australia is apparently paying witches. and no i am not joking.
http://www.theage.com.au/national/witch-bank-the-reserve-of-course-20090818-ep49.html
looking good max and stacy.
The Specter of Debt Revolt Is Haunting Europe
Why Iceland and Latvia Won’t (and Can’t) Pay for the Kleptocrats’ Ripoffs
By MICHAEL HUDSON
http://www.counterpunch.org/hudson08182009.html
Guys,
Be sure to check out opensourcecinema.org which is a great movie project.
Also check out their critque on copyrighting in “RIP: a remix manifesto”.
http://www.opensourcecinema.org/project/rip2.0
I tried to sign in after signing up months ago but doesn’t recognise my email (??)
But its great to finally see it up. I’m all in for the ‘On the Road’ documentary– your name and reputation has increased ten fold over the last couple of months so i think it would be a worth while project. And its time I gave something back to you guys
Max
Why don’t you give that chap you bought those Philp Morris options a call, am sure he be delighted to hear from you.
Mike
@Snoot
Intented is a word, it means forced to live in a tent (city)
@PirateMyGranniesFanny
Great stuff! I want to launch my doc titled ‘How I fought the Energy Oligargy and Won!’, budget around 20.000..