Placebos are getting more effective

Stacy Summary:  Interesting story.  I wonder if it relates to how effective Big Pharma has been at selling the population on the idea of needing a drug for every single vaguely bad feeling, itch in the leg or slight sniffle.  Because so many people have faith in and believe that there is a drug to cure them of anything and everything, then maybe that’s why the placebo effect is getting more powerful?

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  1. Mike2liverpool

    Feeling a bit down myself today
    :(
    Mike

  2. Well, for £2.60 I will send you one super powerful anti-depressant. It tastes a lot like sugar and it comes wrapped in a sugar wrapper, but I have to pay for all the R&D to learn that it worked so well.

  3. @Stacey .. talking about sugar….

    I advised a ( overweight) friend of mine to replace his sugar with a plant leaf which has zero calories and tastes the same.
    He is still using it .. and has lost some weight already.

    STEVIA REBAUDIANA – STATT ZUCKER – 0 KALORIEN – 0,25 g
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    PS: you only need a TINY amount !

  4. Mike2liverpool

    Watching GB & the numbers of what America owe are shocking………no way it can service that debt!
    Mike

  5. Must watch!!!

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2502546838698762400

    Gary Null’s magnificent doc. Prescription for Disaster:

    “Prescription for Disaster” is an in-depth investigation into the symbiotic relationships between the pharmaceutical industry, the FDA, lobbyists, lawmakers, medical schools, and researchers, and the impact this has on American consumers and their health care.”

  6. @Stacy Summary – just shows how powerful the mind is !
    i.e. self-suggestion.

    I’m sure there will soon be Ad-Agencies saying “Our Placebo is better, brushes even whiter ” etc.

  7. There is plenty of literature out their to edify folk on how their minds operate,..etc etc,….but if most folk choose to be ignorant, let them pay inflated prices for sugar cubes. If it works, don’t knock it!

  8. Create a dis-order and then find a relief for the symptoms (not cure),…quite the money spinner.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mental_disorders_as_defined_by_the_DSM_and_ICD

  9. @Stacy

    Didn’t know you’d fit in a wrapper ;-)

    We had a psychology professor in university that wrote that if you get depressed you should eat pasta, as it drives the serotonin up (just like Prozac and icecream). He must have run out cause he committed suicide in the end..

  10. As if the capitalists haven’t harmed the environment enough, now the workers are threatening to do so, in France.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/aug/20/france-transport-river-seine-pollution

  11. @ Stacy

    I thought you’d like to know that it is actually ‘unethical’ (code for you’ll lose your job and be blacklisted) for a doctor to prescribe a placebo without the patients knowledge…. kinda defeats the purpose if they know!

    I bet a placebo really used to come in handy for doctors. It’s the most effective way to show people that THEY are in control of their own minds, and all they needed was a sugar pill to feel better.

    Alas… big pharma is the main beneficiary of this rule.

  12. I might start selling some state of the art placebos, they work better than standard placebos because they are state of the art, but you must pay for it.

  13. placebos aren’t often placebos this days. Big Pharma uses chemical substances that are not neutral but are specially designed ad controlled by scientists

  14. All those placebo’s haven’t even been approved!!

  15. Take care with your analysis … have a look at the following from Mindhacks,

    http://www.mindhacks.com/blog/2009/08/placebo_has_strength.html

  16. Anyone else notice that the MSM in the US is telling Americans to cut back on sugar? How eerie that I’ve been reading a lot of reports as of late that sugar production would be dampened this year due to bad weather…thus expect higher prices. Is this government’s attempt to blunt hysteria? Makes you say hmmmm…

  17. Chinese Menace

    Due to my extensive use of Big Pharmas antidepressive and other medication, I think I can say like this:

    Nothing wrong with medication and science about how the mind works, much wrong when the lust for money is combined with this science. That is why I think China and Cuba will pirate these medicines (They are outright like robbing the blind in price), and make their own cheeper and better ones. Happy and blissful cuban and chinese people will take over the world and turn McDonalds-sign at the restaurant down so it becomes a W and serve better food there with robots as servants, and the food will be for free, a free lunch if you will. Everything will be great and the Chinaman will rule the world wisely.

  18. In my opinion there is a FREE remedy for everything in that wooded area behind your house. Be it minerals or extracts in trees, plants, rivers, etc.

    A bit of research and a few home brews could put Big Pharma out of business! muahahahaha

  19. “Government” is a placebo,….everyone believes “it” can help!

  20. Chinese Menace

    @Colin I agree with you. Jesu Sirach 38:4 “The Lord hath created medicines out of the earth; and he that is wise will not abhor them.”

    I regret btw writing about wise chinaman taking over earth, – I regret it and therefore will take my medicine right now.

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    Arnie Plans Great California Garage Sale
    By © Sky News 2009

    As the state finances in California crumble, Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger is holding a “car boot” sale on eBay to try to get some more money into the coffers.

    http://uk.biz.yahoo.com/090827/140/iptn5.html

  22. Tyler Durden on AIG

    AIG : The Next Volkswagen

    http://www.zerohedge.com/article/next-volkswagen

  23. AIG : closing 50$ today ?

    Everywhere I look, people are shouting “this is crazy”.

    I guess that WS simply doesn’t care any more about what people think … they just do their scams in the open now … before it’s too late I suppose !

  24. http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=14912
    The Pope speaks of the Church, but what he is saying contains a message for all of mankind. If taken seriously, the encyclical is potentially revolutionary. Its message is diametrically opposite to that of the “New World Order” espoused by the international financial elite as their primary method of enslaving mankind to a secular ideology of materialism. The Pope implies, by stating that “the environment is God’s gift to everyone,” that the materialistic ideology is rooted in the evil of the privatization of resources that really should belong to the public commons. He also mentions the traditional Catholic position on debt by stating that, “The weakest members of society should be helped to defend themselves against usury,” though he does not get specific enough to question the fact that the world monetary system is collapsing because it is based on the creation of money through bank lending.

  25. @ Colin

    Agreed. Because even if it isn’t chemically effective it may just be a great placebo!

    @ EVERYONE

    The truth is, big pharma has been using a “placebo” on us for a VERY long time. Hypochondria and placebo effects are really two sides of the same coin. An unbelievable amount of these “mental diseases” are completely misdiagnosed, and that’s supposing that they actually exist in .0001% of the population!

    So you see, through commercials and big pharma doctors, who will throw a pill/bill at anything that moves, it becomes obvious that with 50% of Americans taking a prescription pill at least once a week that mass hypocondria and its consequent – prescription pill addiction – have completely have subsumed the American people.

    No wonder they can’t see the forest from the trees.

  26. @AIG –> 20:1 reverse split

    Aha … maybe that’s the new US$ rate ? … 1:20

    ….” cnbc , guy said aig worth $200-$300 ” ….
    http://www.thelion.com/bin/forum.cgi?tf=wall_street_pit&msg=1734686&cmd=r&t=

    Makes sense … if AIG holds most of the Bank’s Reinsurance and the US “has” to rescue AIG to save the system, then inflating AIG’s price to 300$ ( post reverse split ) would fit in nicely with a currency re/devaluation.
    ;-)

    Just “half” joking of course …. but who knows !

  27. @All…………………..Is it at all possible that the president of the US is against the NWO? A few weeks ago I wouldn’t have asked this question but I’m now beginning to think that he could be working against the NWO. Sure, he has to do somethings they want as he has only been in office for 6 months and can’t change everything straight away. It maybe that he couldn’t do anything about Afghanistan or the bail outs right away, the big things will take time to change and he will need to go slowly if he wants to change anything that isn’t part of the agenda. Cap and Trade does not show him in a good light so not sure about where he’s coming from on that. But he has now surrounded himself with Tzars (mainly radicals and unionists – one of whom claimed that wealth does not trickle down, it trickles up). These people don’t seem to have come from the usual places. Also, Israel is completely against him and are trying to rally support. Also the Rothschilds are against him (they even appeared on TV in order to try to descredit him). Now we have Fox News (Glenn Beck) doing everything they can to turn the country against him and if he had the backing of the NWO would Fox be able to do that? It seems to me no one has had the power and the means previously to attempt to turn the country against the president in the way that Fox is now doing – why were there no real attempts when Bush was in office?
    The US president is also very keen on renewable energy – could this be against the oil interests? It could be that the healthcare bill is what Americans need and they just don’t realise it (sorry frances) because they are so used to deciding their own healthcare and can’t see that healthcare for all requires a standard for all.
    The US president admits he was a Marxist when he was young, maybe he still is – is that a bad thing? I suppose it depends on whether you buy the propoganda in relation to Marxism. It’s certainly anti-capitalist and that’s no bad thing imho.
    Wasn’t it also the US president who enabled the release of the torture memos? And now he is taking away the CIA’s investigation powers and handing it over to another group in the Whitehouse – very interesting as we know the CIA is right in there with tptb. Then of course we have Dick Cheney popping up every now and again, speaking against Obama and trying to defend the record of the Bush administration. We also have a call to audit the fed which seems to be getting somewhere (this didn’t happen before), and yes I know that we still have Timmy and Benny at the helm, but as I say he can’t do everything straight off. He did say that he wanted a sweeping overhaul of the regulation system and Biden is on tape saying that we should be saving capitalism from the capitalists. It’s too easy to smear all of this and call it socialism or communism, that’s the trick the NWO use to show that anyone against their agenda is the enemy, it works very well because anyone moving off the agenda can be labelled in this way – very effective, ie. if it ain’t capitalism well then it must be socialism or communism which is bad! Not really, it depends how you apply it, but this sort of tactic ensures that we are stuck with capitalism because we’ve been brainwashed to believe that the alternatives are even worse – clever huh? Anyway, they’re calling him anti-capitalist and yet it was the previous administration who ensured that most American industries and jobs were shipped overseas. Could it be that he is doing the best that can be done with the mess left behind, the best being to go against the capitalists and the NWO? To redistribute the wealth – this is a good thing no?
    I could go on but this post is already long enough.

  28. @frances…………..I’m trying to re-post but it won’t work. I’ve taken out the presidents actual name and replaced it with US president. I also changed NWO to oligarchs. Don’t know what the problem is with it. I’ll try posting it in two parts, see if that works.

  29. PART 1:-

    @All…………………..Is it at all possible that the president of the US is against the the oligarchs? A few weeks ago I wouldn’t have asked this question but I’m now beginning to think that he could be working against the them. Sure, he has to do somethings they want as he has only been in office for 6 months and can’t change everything straight away. It maybe that he couldn’t do anything about Afghanistan or the bail outs right away, the big things will take time to change and he will need to go slowly if he wants to change anything that isn’t part of the agenda. Cap and Trade does not show him in a good light so not sure about where he’s coming from on that. But he has now surrounded himself with Tzars (mainly radicals and unionists – one of whom claimed that wealth does not trickle down, it trickles up). These people don’t seem to have come from the usual places. Also, Israel is completely against him and are trying to rally support. Also the Rothschilds are against him (they even appeared on TV in order to try to descredit him). Now we have Fox News (Glenn Beck) doing everything they can to turn the country against him and if he had the backing of the oligarchs would Fox be able to do that? It seems to me no one has had the power and the means previously to attempt to turn the country against the president in the way that Fox is now doing – why were there no real attempts when Bush was in office?
    The US president is also very keen on renewable energy – could this be against the oil interests? It could be that the healthcare bill is what Americans need and they just don’t realise it (sorry frances) because they are so used to deciding their own healthcare and can’t see that healthcare for all requires a standard for all.
    The US president admits he was a Marxist when he was young, maybe he still is – is that a bad thing? I suppose it depends on whether you buy the propoganda in relation to Marxism. It’s certainly anti-capitalist and that’s no bad thing imho.
    Wasn’t it also the US president who enabled the release of the torture memos? And now he is taking away the CIA’s investigation powers and handing it over to another group in the Whitehouse – very interesting as we know the CIA is right in there with tptb. Then of course we have Dick Cheney popping up every now and again, speaking against the current president and trying to defend the record of the Bush administration.

  30. Nope, still not working. This is truly pathetic!

  31. frances snoot

    @Phil:
    Here’s some news from FDIC. This isn’t the report we are waiting for though.
    http://www.fdic.gov/news/news/press/2009/pr09153.html

  32. frances snoot

    @Sharon:
    Do you have that Rothschild link about discrediting Obama?

  33. Holy sh*t! It looks like my post finally made it…..complete anti-climax now of course.

    Anyway:-
    @Phil…………STEVIA REBAUDIANA – STATT ZUCKER – 0 KALORIEN – 0,25 g
    Is that the name I would use to order it in from an English site? Is that possible?

    @Dedo………..re: the Pope’s speech. Took his flipping time didn’t he? Actually I think certain people are now coming out with this stuff coz certain powers are losing powers. I could be wrong but that’s the impression I get.

    BTW……..haven’t you all heard?……….The British gov. or some Lord has stated that all London Stock Exchange transactions should be taxed. This is headline news here. Of course the bankers are not happy and have come out with a few derogatory comments to which members of the general public have responded with even more derogatory comments about the bankers. The gov must know that anything negative they do to the bankers right now will have the full support of the public!

  34. Don’t know if this post came up before (can’t remember what I’ve posted now).

    Have you heard about the company that runs Britain?

    It inspects schools, trains our armed forces, helps protect our borders, maintains our nuclear weapons, runs our trains and operates our prisons.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/f…s-Britain.html

  35. frances snoot

    @Stacy:
    What about vaccinations? Doesn’t that kill the placebo argument…people wouldn’t know they were exposed to the virus yet the vaccine prevent resurgence of viral diseases…?

    I believe that vaccines do prevent resurgence and have a place in medicine, but not the overwhelming totalitarian place.

  36. Actually it’s the chairman of the FSA (financial services authority) – Lord Turner. He says the bankers should be there to serve the public not rip them off. Also the mayor of London says the bankers should be made to give back their bonuses or give them to charity. Looks like the knives are coming out.

  37. It’s called a TOBIN tax.

    @frances……..can you confirm if my long post re: Obama and Glenn Beck has shown up.

  38. frances snoot

    Sharon:
    To redistribute the wealth – this is a good thing no?

    That depends on whether you believe that the ends justify the means. I don’t. The problem is the corrupt middle men. Forcing the rich to give a toll for those who can’t or won’t creates two classes of people: the indolent poor and the parasitical politician.

    It is one thing to volunteer to give. Instead, we have the IRS syphoning money to the private bankers who hide behind the facade of institutions that reek of waste, corruption, and lassitude.

    Stealing is stealing even under the auspices of a yes-we-can cuddle-me circle-of-trust group of never-had-to-work-a-day-in-my-life do gooders.

  39. frances snoot

    @Sharon:
    Yes. I hope my sardonic reply is confirmation enough.
    :)

  40. Thanks Phil. BTW can you confirm if my post came up re: Obama and Glenn Beck?

    My frustration on the moderation rule comes about as a result of how the world treats us nowadays. I expect that from gov and corporations, etc. But when you find an outlet with like-minded people it’s a relief, and then………………

  41. @frances………I agree with you but I think you’re missing my main point which was to question whether Obama could be trying to do something good and we have only seen a few examples so far because he can’t yet tackle the bigger issues – that would take time. I’m just not buying the whole Fox News/Glenn Beck turn around. It’s a case of my enemy’s enemy is my friend. Time will tell.

  42. anything but green

    @ M

    Thanks for the promotion to CHIEF Clogging Officer.
    Am offline a lot now, but will try to check in every other day or so. The comments and links are as enjoyable as ever.

  43. @sharon / Obama + NWO

    …” Could it be that he is doing the best that can be done with the mess left behind, the best being to go against the capitalists and the NWO? “…

    LOL .. you seem to be as confused as I am … “knowing what to think” !

    Bluff / Double Bluff / Double Double Bluff … etc.

    You have to wonder what they’re up to given that the mess of WS and Govt. corruption is so great and being flaunted in front of everyone’s face.
    Sure looks likes a recipe for disaster !

    If – as you postulate – Obama is on “our” side – then he could be deliberately trying to crash the system , without allowing it to “look deliberate”.
    Where’s Biden’s … “I promise you in 6 months ” event ?
    Was the event to crash the financial system and reboot it – after a US$ devaluation and maybe a touch of RonPaul’s honest money policy ?

    One really wonders whether it’s Bluff / Double Bluff / or Double Double Bluff …
    … or is it really as bad as it looks ?

  44. @Sharon,
    Thanks for getting into this subject.

    There’s no doubt that no-one has a clue about who and what Obama is. I think that’s because he’s a nothing. He’s ‘song and dance man’. And that is what makes him dangerous. He says one thing and does another.

    When a nation has been driven to a crisis it looks for a saviour. It got it. He was whatever you wanted him to be.
    It doesn’t matter who criticises him as that can just mean that they put him there as a target. You talk about the CIA. What is the CIA? Is it an instrument to deflect you from realising that it’s the army behind it all? Are the marines mob hitmen? Does the US indulge in arms/drug dealing via its wars and funnel the money to the mob and Israel? How can you say that the Israelis are against him when the man who minds him is Rahm Emmanuel? This guy’s father was part of the Zionist terrorist ogranisation that blew up the King David Hotel and set up the forerunner of Lekud Party and Mossad. He’s Obama’s right-hand man. The grew up politically in gangland Chicago. You can’t get to the Pres unless you go through him.

    Obama is not going to go against the man. He has no politics, he simply seduces. Who is his boss? That’s the question. At the end of the day, I think it’s the mob. The mob are in Wall St and in Washington and in the army. It’s all about money and getting as much of it as possible before the other mob outfit gets it.

    When the country has no wealth left – what happens? Who cares. They’ll run it as a cheap labour camp. I think they may be in for a surprise when they realise that a lot of elite military turn out to be patriots. Some of these know how to take out a coup. And there’s a lot of bright Americans out there who’ll throw a spanner in the works.

    Obama? Don’t hold your breath.

  45. Hey,….the CCO’s back in town : )

  46. @Black Douglas

    … ” Obama is not going to go against the man. He has no politics, he simply seduces. Who is his boss? That’s the question. At the end of the day, I think it’s the mob. The mob are in Wall St and in Washington and in the army. It’s all about money and getting as much of it as possible before the other mob outfit gets it. ” …

    Yes .. you are right IMO !

    What we ( sharon ) were discussed was the “chance” that Obama may be a “nice guy” after all.
    OTOH, I suppose we have to be realistic .. it’s all about money in the end !

  47. @All,…….I’ve just had confirmation from the top,…what’s happening now is meant to drive any sane person insane,…the new system that is coming, is going to be so radically different , if you went away and came back in twenty years, you wouldn’t recognise it!…..over and out (crackle,crackle, wirrr)

  48. @Dedo — “is meant to drive any sane person insane,”

    LOL , well said

    And here’s an extension of your thoughts…

    The Metastasis of Moral Hazard and its Effect on Gold
    http://news.goldseek.com/GoldSeek/1251266760.php

    … “As the existing system destroys itself, the question becomes, “how will wealth and financial freedom be defined in the future?” Today, we say that dollar millionaires and billionaires are wealthy. They used to say that about those who possessed millions or billions of Zimbabwean dollars. But that fiat currency is now dead and its possessors are penniless. History is absolutely categorical: fiat currencies are immoral, and because of that, they fail, without exception. Repeat: without exception, as documented throughout all of time. The new wealth will be measured in something different, most likely gold. There are only 5 billion ounces of it on earth, or roughly 0.75 ounces per capita. The supply grows at less than 2% per year, a fraction of world fiat money growth. Much of it is not and will not be for sale; the amount available to the market is less than 0.25 ounces per person. As gold takes its rightful place of honor as the people’s reserve currency, demand for its limited supply will continue to grow. Tomorrow’s billionaires will be those who prepare today for the coming, inevitable monetary paradigm shift. Those who acquire gold now, while it is still available and inexpensive, will create for themselves a future that is secure, free and rich with opportunity.”…

  49. frances snoot

    I’d rather kiss the south-end of a mule than live in any state that Obama proclaims “good”.

  50. GEORGE: Why would I spend seven dollars to see a movie that I could watch on TV?

    KRAMER: Well, why go to a fine restaurant, when you can just stick something in the microwave? Why go to the park and fly a kite, when you can just pop a pill?

  51. frances snoot

    Chief Clogging Officer:
    Good to hear you are still clickety-clacketing.
    Awaiting your curbside rhetoric.
    Regards
    M

  52. frances snoot

    @Dedo:
    Was that a tin-foil hat transmission?

  53. @Phil,….Great article!,……@Frances,…why you no risten,..it’s a copper hat!

  54. frances snoot

    @Sharon: (IMHO)
    Obama to me seems brutal and brittle. Brutal in his absolute resolve to complete a work irregardless of the human suffering he invokes. Brittle in his vulnerable need to be adored, to be center, to be venerated. In my opinion both these traits do not make for a good leader.

    Granted he did inherit a bankrupt, corrupt, and divided country. But the staged propaganda (the Lincoln parady on the trainwide to Washington for the inauguration, the photos of Obama with halos as a god-like apparition, the proferring of Biden as sacrificial scapegoat), bespeak of a tyrannical whimlike nature.

    He wishes to set up a law based upon the caprice of man. He claims that our new legal framework will rely on values and-the-constitution. He defers to claim allegiance to legal contractual precident.

    The NWO is here. It is Obama and more of the same.

  55. @AIG + C

    Both have roughly the same trade revenue today :

    AIG : 100 mio. x 50$
    C : 1000 mio x 5$

    FWIW

  56. China urges US to end coast surveillance http://tinyurl.com/ngj647

  57. @Phil………….I’m definitely confused! I thought I sort of knew what was going on, now I’m not so sure. As you say: bluff/double bluff.

    @Black Douglas…………good post! Re: the Israelis being against Obama – it’s what’s been published in papers in Israel and apparantly they’re setting up a propoganda machine against him (they’re good at propoganda – it’s their bread and butter). I agree it’s unlikely that ANY president would do something good solely for the people, something just doesn’t add up!
    Also you said: “It’s all about money and getting as much of it as possible before the other mob outfit gets it. ” …
    You see this is even more confusing coz I think we all thought that it was just like it is here in Britian, ie. doesn’t matter whether you vote tory or labour – they both report to the same oligarchs. A 2 headed………. (whatever the expression is?)

    @frances…..I surrender! If I had to put money on it I’d go with your summation. As I said before..something doesn’t add up. When the msm turn on someone it usually means the guy they’re turning on is the good guy. Remember that vid Phil posted: Everything is a lie? It shows you that if you apply the opposite to what you’re being told then you can find the truth – it works in my experience, I’ve been doing that little experiment for a good few months now – works everytime!

    @Dedo….shut up! (only joking)

  58. anything but green

    @ Team

    Shall be inactive for a while, but since you missed me sooo much, here’s a little fun. The bankers groomed Adolf to be Germany’s Stalin (and assigned him Trotsky’s former handler) but had to switch from Communism to National Socialism when the Munich residents put up a fight. It’s all in the family. Fast forward to the present.

    http://www.whale.to/b/hallet_b.html

    http://www.whale.to/b/hallet_b.html

  59. @ABG .. LOL .. pretty good.

    BTW… Martin Bormann
    I actually met a Mark Bormann who was in Hitlers V3 ( personal body guard ). He escaped to Canada for 40 years and came back to Germany about 15 years ago.
    ( He had the usual Gold Watch with Hitler’s Signature )

    He wanted to write a book .. but haven’t heard anything since … may have left us already , as am no longer in touch.
    It was very interesting talking to him I must say.

  60. Just been watching Channel 4 news and the story about Lord Turner’s suggestion to tax transactions in the markets so that bankers don’t get as much money. The response from bankers & traders:-
    “Don’t pander to the masses!”
    “If you do it we’ll leave!”

    My response (excuse the language):-

    It’s the masses, you parasitic cockroach f*ckhead, who pay your wages you utter gobshite! And please do feel free to f*ck off – we’ll be so much better off if you do.

  61. Phil…..tell us what he said, go on, go on.

    @ABG……..Spot on! WWII – not at all what people think!

  62. @sharon .. what a refreshing change !

    Such “clean” cut language in contrast to the unclear, ambiguous empty polititalk !
    ;-)

  63. @Sharon,……just read your post,.LOL,….you must have watched exorcist!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5-xa3jQ5nc

  64. @sharon

    Beck is now the Anti MSM. All other MSMs are Obama propagandists. ABC news is now called the Obama network. Power, money, influence peddling, same same.

    Infaltion Alert – Aren’t we in deflation??

    Haircut up 25% >hasn’t changed in 10 years
    House Insurance up 55% >same coverage, no claims

  65. frances snoot

    @Sharon:
    YES!
    Uttergobshites one and all those banksters!

  66. @Sharon,

    The response from bankers & traders:-
    “Don’t pander to the masses!”
    “If you do it we’ll leave!”

    Where the f&ck are they going to go? There’s no jobs statside and nowhere else in the English speaking world either. They’ll be looking for jobs with other untrustworthy scumbags and Asia won’t trust them.

  67. @Phil…..now wouldn’t you rather they spoke like that? At least we’d know where we stood. And actually I think it’s far less offensive that the language they come out with (they being the establishment, media, etc). Who was it that said ommision is a far greater lie?

    @Dedo…….gosh, there is a bit of a resemblance isn’t there? Wonder if that’s why I got divorced…ha!ha!

    @Black Douglas….no jobs to go to. Of course, you’re right.

    I think we should all join Dedo’s elite squad with our 1st mission being to remove all personnel from Threadneedle street and Canary Wharf.
    I say ‘remove’ but you know what I mean. How are those mortar rockets coming along Dedo?

  68. @Market today

    Any one else get the feeling that the market is beginning to look SO GOOD , especially the financials , that the FDIC report must have been awe inspiring !

    While everyone is wondering where the crash is, WS is pumping everything upwards to make their balance sheets look better — totally decoupled from reality and the economy and making the Doomsayers look pretty stupid …. so far !

    I’ve heard people calling DJIA 11K EOY … man , you have to be insane to be sane !

  69. @sharon … ” now wouldn’t you rather they spoke like that? ”

    That was my point .. it’s music to my ears !
    .. a bit like when Max gets real emotional and hammers out the truth. BTW … I am really wondering how has not managed to get arrested yet !
    ;-)
    OTOH, maybe GS will offer him 1 Bio$ to STFU !
    .. ever thought of that ?
    ;-)

  70. @ WL……you maybe right. As I said: I’m confused, which is why I threw it out there to see if anybody else wasn’t confused. Fox News though? Although they do have Gerald Celente on, and isn’t Judge Neopolitano on Fox? How could Beck have got it so wrong with Bush though? Do you believe that?

  71. I read gravity is caused by a giant spinning reactor hidden in the dome of st. Pauls Cathedral, installed there by bankers to ensure creative destruction and subsequent profits for the glass industry and bone doctors and the bomb makers…

  72. @phil

    That is quite steep..

  73. @Mother Earth … ” That is quite steep..”

    It is only a small movement .. but I agree, it is a “sharp” drop !

  74. Okay, I know this is off topic,..and a bit sick,..but it made me chuckle,…they say laughter is infectious!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHvhFZOOXrs&feature=related

  75. Banking Collapse – Like a Thief in the night – Follow up to VisionVictory Bank Holidy Video

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7pqALsxNhA&feature=sub

    Reckons in 5 days ( now 4 ) : Aug 31st.

    AFAIK, the FED is currently appealing the order.
    Whether that adds on another week , who knows !

  76. GOLD: Russia’s Peter Hambro Mining boosts H1 profit fivefold http://tinyurl.com/ndrrd4

  77. Okay,..I know most of you are aware of this, but I thought it might be fruitful to post as a reminder.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ei7LqbYb8M

  78. frances snoot

    The real Glenn Beck:
    http://glennbeck.blogs.foxnews.com/2009/04/22/what-is-torture/

    Sick and twisted perspective.

  79. frances snoot

    @Sharon:
    So, Fox News decided to allow some esoteric news that many consider to be truth and put it on frontpage with a man that represents everything the progressives rightly despise about Bush. The patriots following Beck are as important to Beck as a piece of gum he will need to scrape off his shoe. Doesn’t he do “white” well; isn’t he coy?

  80. frances snoot

    @Dedo:
    The.video.he.speaks.so.slowly…I.am.one.with.the.universe.

  81. Sounded to fast for me,…: )

  82. @sharon

    The confusion you’re experiencing is cognitive dissonance. Don’t be too alarmed though, you seem to be working it out much better than most.

  83. Ref: Beck, Obama,..etc,.. These guys are professional script readers (actors) is why they’re so convincing. Wakey wakey wake, wak, wa, w , aaaa

  84. @Sharon

    Fox makes no distinction between facts and opinions, as long as it sells..

  85. Hey Dedo, is frances talking about the Plato cave vid when she says it’s too slow? I’m with you; I thought it was fast – Duh!

    @13 Black Cats…………..thanks for that!!

  86. @Sharon,…..Frances is just showing off,…as usual!!

  87. @francis snoot

    The torture issue is one that Beck is dead wrong. However, there are many that he is nailing. He is exposing issues that no other media is touching and you don’t have to agree with him to appreciate that. Frankly, I think he is as confused about the “system” as most are. They wake up from there mundane lives and sense that something isn’t right. Just can’t put a finger on it.

    Beck does more good than harm even though he may attract right wingnuts.

    Do you see any other MSM raising these and other similar issues?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4DzN07m3g4

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KFjR4f6TZk

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DPfKxOQGHU

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZsY5XbLinw

  88. @Dedo…………you crack me up!!

  89. frances snoot

    @Dedo:
    That’s why Angelina Jolie wants to run for president. She says, I can do that!

  90. ‘Moon rock’ in Dutch museum is just petrified wood http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090827/ap_on_re_eu/eu_netherlands_not_moon_rock

  91. frances snoot

    @WL:

    Beck does more good than harm even though he may attract right wingnuts.

    Not when he scrapes the patriots off the bottom of his shoe.

  92. frances snoot

    WL:
    Okay, I’ll cede that Beck’s okay when he demonstrates that waterboarding isn’t torture by allowing himself to be waterboarded six times.

    In the interim I’ll continue to despise him.

  93. Mind blowing speech by Robert Welch in 1958 predicting Insiders plans to destroy America
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZU0c8DAIU4

  94. @Youri………….re: Robert Welch…….yeh, I saw that before – says it all really. I still find Kennedys’ speech one of the most enlightening when it comes to public figures.

    @frances………lol!

  95. MSM: Bailed-Out Financial Firms Forked Over $6 Million To Members Of Congress Since November http://bit.ly/m6ZaG

  96. @frances snoot

    Heard some rumours about Jolie and Illuminati stuff but when I hear Jon Voight (her father) i think is a oki doke.

    Is it Jon Jolie or Angela Voight?

  97. Angelina Jolie Backs International Court
    Saturday, November 1st, 2008 – by Terry Melanson

    William F. Jasper – 31 October 2008

    On October 17, the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) hosted a “Symposium on International Law and Justice” featuring actress Angelina Jolie, a Goodwill Ambassador for the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees and co-chair, with her husband, actor Brad Pitt, of the Jolie-Pitt Foundation. According to the CFR website, the symposium “was made possible through the generous support of the Jolie-Pitt Foundation.”

  98. Angelina Jolie Backs International Court

    http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/foreign-policy/477

  99. I l l u m i n a t i

  100. Ok Gotcha Max & Stace you censored the word I l l u m i n a t i ahhhh LOL

  101. @frances snoot

    Heard some rumours about Jolie and I l l u m i n a t i stuff but when I hear Jon Voight (her father) i think is a oki doke.

    Is it Jon Jolie or Angela Voight?

  102. Who would devalue their currency against a falling and fragile US … – PR Inside http://url4.eu/JtwN

  103. Possible Answer: The Chinese?

  104. That, and let’s not forget how easy it is to sell crap to people how pay no attention/interest to what you are selling them…

  105. THIS STACE IS WHAT YOU MUST LOOK AT IN CONJUNCTION WITH ABOVE!!! How well do they still work??

    In Limbaugh Land where any form of regulation is fiendishly un-American, the flow of dubiously supervised imported products soars.
    Another health relevant concern is the poison potential of unmanaged imported agricultural fertilisers, veterinary product, and animal feeds.

    SOME LINKS :
    1)Shoddy and fraudulent pharmacy products pose a growing threat : Gone are the days when Americans could unquestioningly trust in the quality and authenticity of their pharmaceuticals.
    EG: more than 1 million counterfeit OneTouch diabetes test strips, melamine tainted pet food and toothpaste made with diethylene glycol, http://health.usnews.com/articles/health/2007/10/05/are-your-drugs-safe.html

    2)FDA Scrutiny Scant In India, China as Drugs Pour Into U.S. Broad Overseas Checks Called Too Costly
    By Marc Kaufman Washington Post Staff Writer Sunday, June 17, 2007; http://www.nipcweb.com/FDA_Scrutiny_%20India_China.pdf

    3)From http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/statistics/product/enduse/imports/c5700.html
    In constant dollar terms the percentage change of US imports from China 2008 vs 2007 of the following items :
    Fertilizers, pesticides, and insecticides UP 84%, Industrial inorganic chemicals UP 56%, Industrial organic chemicals UP 77%, and Finally Medicinal, dental and pharmaceutical preparations UP 66%

  106. We are co-creators (of reality.) Take a look at the Sun losing its magnetic ‘shield’, Earth losing a significant portion of its magnetosphere, and the increased energies hitting us from the Galactic center. This alignment occurs periodically, the energy is cyclic, and human social cycles correlate with the galactic ones.

    Check it out – factual, science myth history prophecy all agree.

  107. @george mcclure …. Coincidence ?

    Just finishing watching this :

    SuperWave Theory 2012 Earth Changes 1 of 3
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIMYlKzYTig

    SuperWave Theory 2012 Earth Changes 2 of 3
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONKgTAmtWqY&feature=rec-HM-r2

    SuperWave Theory 2012 Earth Changes 3 of 3
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KaeoHFSyKM&feature=PlayList&p=5074E3A2BA24D7A7&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=21