Stacy Summary: Thanks all who sent this to me and posted in comments! Yes, this is the most important story I have read in all the years that Max and I have been making films about the Death of the Dollar. And it is because the author of the article, Robert Fisk, who will not only be very well connected in the region, doesn’t often (if ever) write about finance or commodities, he’s not going to have any particular position to promote.
- The Demise of the Dollar (Robert Fisk)
Stacy: Here’s the money quote from Fisk’s article. To me, it sounds like China is vocally drawing a line in the sand. After this, I don’t think there can possibly be any carpet bombing of Iran where China has major oil investments.
Against the background to these currency meetings, Sun Bigan, China’s former special envoy to the Middle East, has warned there is a risk of deepening divisions between China and the US over influence and oil in the Middle East. “Bilateral quarrels and clashes are unavoidable,” he told the Asia and Africa Review. “We cannot lower vigilance against hostility in the Middle East over energy interests and security.“
Stacy: Fisk’s conclusion sounds an awful lot like some statements in Death of the Dollar made in 2006.
Iran announced late last month that its foreign currency reserves would henceforth be held in euros rather than dollars. Bankers remember, of course, what happened to the last Middle East oil producer to sell its oil in euros rather than dollars. A few months after Saddam Hussein trumpeted his decision, the Americans and British invaded Iraq.
At the time we made Death of the Dollar 2, I spoke to an oil analyst at a major oil research firm who told me that pricing oil in dollars wouldn’t matter if it were only Iraq or only Venezuela, for example; it would only matter, he said, if all nations move away from pricing in dollars. This opinion is echoed in Death of the Dollar 2 by Dr. Manouchehr Takin, former Senior Officer at OPEC, who says if oil were traded in other currencies but the dollar, then, of course, it would mean there would be less demand for dollars. Dr. Gerard Lyons, Chief Economist at Standard Chartered, also points out that they were advising Gulf nations to move away from the dollar and what the implications then would be for both the Gulf and the US. And then Dr. Paul Craig Roberts talks about the ‘exorbitant privilege’ and why it is important. And I am quite certain you could find headlines from early 1900′s through 1945 as sterling was losing its status as reserve currency. (It’s a multi-decade volatile process . . . but today no other single nation wants to take on the mantle of reserve status for along with the ‘exorbitant privilege’ comes apparently the ‘exorbitant burden’ of deficits).
Just as the US demonstrates overwhelming force against tiny nations like Haiti, Honduras or Cuba when they exhibit the smallest sign of defiance or independence, so too the US does the same with Middle East countries. It is not that they matter in any but the smallest of trade with the US, it is the precedence of defiance and independence that the US tries to nip in the bud before it spreads. It’s like Guiliani’s ‘broken window’ shock and awe policing.
The Original Death of the Dollar:
Death of the Dollar, Part 2 (stay tuned til the last few seconds when Max whistles in the graveyard!):
Updates: Gold 1026.90 1028.60 1030.10 1035.60
- Saudi Bank Governor Denies Talks to Replace Dollar (no denial yet from France)
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@Supergreek
This article sent a chill up my spine. I’ll leave it at that for now, off to slaughter, i mean work, like a good little lamb.
@y’all
I need a break from all this WAR…pronounced…WHOAAH!!!
from chicago….illinois.
Hypnotic Brass Ensemble – War.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ospt8g4i-9k
@Ilya. Russia’s participation in these talks would be crucial for its role as a military deterrent against insane reactions on the US’ part. OPEC probably wouldn’t have to nerve to try this w/o Russia backing them up. That one of the reasons this overall scenario sounds so plausible.
@y’all
typos:america is and will become ungovernable…and also ‘Talk of WAR.
@illya
Link…please!!!
@larry – would love to talk to Fisk . . . anyone have his email or mobile number?
@Stacy. Maybe you could reach him through one of these addresses:
* News Desk: newseditor@independent.co.uk
* Foreign Desk: foreigneditor@independent.co.uk
* Features: features@independent.co.uk
I could be wrong, but my feeling is that the markets would not have responded in the way they have today if oil trading in something other than dollar were no big deal.
@y’all
for any interested….who don’t know about ‘vic tanny’…read the wiki excerp on this page…IMO a great analogy for america’s situation…and a great visual…coincidence!!!
@y’all
oops!!! Victor ‘vic’ Tanny…link.
http://www.scripophily.net/victaeninde1.html
@Stacy. It looks like either Mish or a lot of forex traders have OPEC’s oil-for-USD policy wrong. Judging from how many USD OPEC nations accumulate, it appears to mean what it says. OPEC nations get paid for their oil in USD. So at least as many petrodollars need to be in circulation as OPEC sells oil for.
Russia surpassed Saudi Arabia as the world’s largest oil producer last month. Russia increased its output 1.7 percent to a post-Soviet high in September from a year earlier, after OAO Rosneft starting pumping from a new field in August. Production rose to 10.01 million barrels a day from 9.84 million, the Energy Ministry’s CDU-TEK unit said Oct. 2.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601081&sid=aLe2iy5N5eZs
https://newsclient.omxgroup.com/cdsPublic/viewDisclosure.action?disclosureId=330200&messageId=396592
Alliance Oil Company Ltd. (formerly West Siberian Resources Ltd) (the “Company”)
announces that it has launched an offering of US$ 225 million principal amount
of convertible bonds (“Bonds”) due 2014 (the “Bond Offering”) and US$100 million
in newly issued shares in the form of Swedish depository receipts (“SDRs”)
listed on Nasdaq OMX Nordic (the “Equity Offering”). The proceeds from the
offerings are intended to be used to further strengthen the Company’s balance
sheet and liquidity position, to reduce short term debt and to provide
additional flexibility for both organic growth opportunities and potential
acquisitions.
http://www.allianceoilco.com/?p=start&afw_lang=en
Russia Today on the Independent story:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mezD3f9QjD0
Prediction!
Any chance (which was probably slim anyway) of Peter Schiff winning just evaporated. In this video he tells Saudis how they can tank the dollar. They just have to buy gold. I can see the campaign commercial: “Schiff plots with Saudis to topple America!”:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0Weo7X3Y0U&feature=related
FRANCES !!! where you bin,.?
Re; trying to contact Fisk. Don’t bother. I tried and was told they don’t forward mail to him.
As for Shedlock, he’s saying that Fisk is either lying or being set up? This brings up a few possibilities:
He either does lousy research. Or has no idea of Fisk’s solid reputation in the Middle East, his extensive connections and more.
We didn’t invade Iraq because Sadaam wanted to switch from dollars to euros? There’s a ton of reputable sources that say he’s wrong. Which means Shedlock is showing his neocon bias?
Why would Fish make this up? Also, assume for a second that he is being set up by someone (ala Judith Miller formerly of the NYT)? What would that accomplish.
Looks like the “economic pundits” are really bored right now.
@Stacey
You might be able to reach him through Alan Bock of antiwar.com., I know they’re in touch,
abock at ocregister dot com
@Dedo:
Thought I’d learn more if I talked less.
Been reading y’all though.
Dedo:
Looks like oil will be sold through Kasakastinitintan or whatever. Free’s up Iran for the looters.
Interesting too how the bonds were sold as sdr-denominated financial instruments.
@Frances,…I wish you wouldn’t,…I love reading your comments,…the most informative on the site, might I add!
(I’m not frikin’ brown nosin’ either) : )
@T:
No one is doing anything without an UN security council mandate. So unless the neocons want to fight the allied NATO forces ‘we’ operate out of the insanity of the UN.
EU banking regulation hegemony is coming as well:
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601102&sid=aoK0x3qYrfCI
http://www.reuters.com/article/pressReleasesMolt/idUSTRE58O6DA20090925
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/banking_and_finance/article6846072.ece
http://www.bis.org/publ/bcbs162.pdf?noframes=1
The spigot will be turned off completely: Basel Committee’s putting a kink in the hose.
Thanks Dedo: IF ONLY THE WORLD SAW OUT OF YOUR EYES.
But really, I could polish up my q’s and p’s a bit when it comes to rant-free writing!
Dedo, Did Mike King really disappear? *POOF* We will CARRY ON THE TRADITION OF OUR CAPtain.
That’s some of the best reporting on our situation I’ve seen anywhere.
Thank you for telling it how it is with Obama. This is a welcome balance to Stacy’s Utopian, dreamy delusions about Obama. Poor girl.
Why is it that the younger generation in the West, mainly US, seem to understand how system works, and the older generations are blind and oblivious?
http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-25578-Cincinnati-Economy-Examiner~y2009m10d6-Revisiting-the-Inflation-vs-Deflation-Argument
@Frances, The US never got that mandate it wanted to invade Iraq.
@TheManFromGlad:
Looks like they want sanctions first, as in Iraq.
@Ilya:
That can’t be you, is it? The picture of the Russian babe avantar?
I thought this resembled you:
http://monstermonday.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/monster-monday-2008-12-14.jpg
@T. The Independent might not forward e=mails, but they might be willing to facilitate an interview with one of their reporters.
@Frances. Trade sanctions against OPEC?
@TheManFromGlad:
Oh. The UN Security Council has ballied about the trade sanctions against Iran for a time now:
http://www.dailypress.com/news/world/sns-ap-eu-iran-nuclear-talks-sanctions,0,6454093.story
In his own opening remarks, President Obama said today’s resolution represented agreement on a broad framework of action to end the complex dangers posed by nuclear weapons in the post-cold-war world. To that end, he pledged that the United States would host a Summit in early 2010 and pursue deeper cuts in its nuclear arsenal, as well as agreements with the Russian Federation towards the total elimination of nuclear weapons. He said the resolution also emphasized the Council’s authority to respond to violations of its resolutions, including those on Iran and the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea. “The world must stand together and demonstrate that international law is not an empty promise,” he added.
http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs/2009/sc9746.doc.htm
Iran seems willing to comply as evidenced by their agreement to stop enriching uranium. But the Anglo/Dutch interests see Iran as an occupied or heavily influenced country.
http://www.globalsecuritynewswire.org/gsn/nw_20090917_3617.php
@Frances. I see what you’re saying. The UN probably will try to appease the US over Iran, up to a point. I was wondering how the US might respond if OPEC started selling oil for something other than straight USD. Not even very many members of the coalition of the willing would be willing to stop buying oil from the rest of OPEC.