Stacy Summary: Anyone have any idea why we are in Afghanistan?
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William Engdahl has an idea, but it doesn’t make sense to me. He doesn’t mention the words “Freedom” or “Getting Free” or “Makin’ People Really Free, Ya See,” anywhere in it.
http://www.engdahl.oilgeopolitics.net/Geopolitics___Eurasia/Afghanistan/afghanistan.html
@Illya, Afghanistan war plans were on Bush’s desk on 9/9/2001
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4587368/
@g
Already been there, brother. And I have been ‘mad’ since I was 13 in 1973.
“Probbaly no one will read this since it’s way down the front page but my cousin in Oz is good friends with a number of Oz ex-SAS guys: they were contracted out TWO MONTHS BEFORE 9/11 to go into Afghan to take out select targets.
If you need any more proof that 9/11 was an inside job then this should seal the deal.
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You’re totally right on that. They were also drilling the invasion of Afgh. before 9/11. No doubt they targeted Moussud from the northern allience because as a nationalist. They blamed it on “al-qaida” but I think we all know who they are.
@Illya, chech this out, I’m sure you’ll find it interesting. Its an old militay insider telling the story of how it really was in the post WW2 America.
http://www.ratical.org/ratville/JFK/ST/
Also check out Tarpley’s work on GHW Bush if you want to get really, really mad.
tarpley.net
Let me know if these were useful to you, cheers.
Probbaly no one will read this since it’s way down the front page but my cousin in Oz is good friends with a number of Oz ex-SAS guys: they were contracted out TWO MONTHS BEFORE 9/11 to go into Afghan to take out select targets.
If you need any more proof that 9/11 was an inside job then this should seal the deal.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4QpobQtbhw one more
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaDC9rVRZpA ciao
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T79sGu_Ir7o time to sign off back to work of sorts , good luck with the gold everyone ! , jim, keep writing !
To keep it out of the SCO, and .create a second flank against Iran. US black ops need those for poppies as a funding multiplier. And there’s the possibility of a pipeline.
People Like Cristiana Amanpour I bet her childeren & grand childeren are gonna ask her WTF were u doing u were a reporter why did’nt u ask the right Questions Like Why was Daniel Pearl Killed what whas he finding out ?why are we in Concentration camps mum / grandmum ?werent you a prominent Reporter?
ROFL
And its as broad as Daylight the First world Country’s Labs have produced products like Cocaine & Heroin. If CNN or BBC’s gonna tell me an uneducated Afghani invented Heroine and all these Class A drugs Like Crystal Meth ROFL me not buying that load of Garbage. LMAO one Sergant from the US was Saying that CNN uses footage that was shot 3 months Ago and used it to garner support more troops in Afganistan This was in 2002 . All a bunch of Liars.Like i said Bad Plubicity is also ADVERTISEMENT thats why that behind the scenes crap in Columbia was played on CNN within Columbias drug lords/fights Anyone with Half a brain can figure out these Lunatics
David Ickes got em pinned on the floor
Case in Point Watch
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4Q_36iSCKo&feature=related
@stacyherbert
Hi Stacey yeah thanks for correction though i dont do any of the stuff . So not Knowledgeble about it either my poison is Whysky n i love it ROFL. One thing is for Sure in the Last 100 years no country has ever invaded US. But its been in all countries. If your Countrys Rich in Menerals or Resurces Like Drugs I the US can Garuntee u i am gonna be there not for my cut but i want the Whole dam thing Cause i am Greedy and u dont deserve to Live.
@Bonn – you mean heroin? US produces their cocaine in Colombia
Anyone involved in drug trafficking on CIA turf is going to be alive only if they are made man. It doesn’t really take rocket science to figure that out.
correction : meta data
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FOAtxafuK0 for the amateur futurologists out there like myself . Bruce Sterling author talking about splimes , fields of meat data accompanying each and every future object , sterling suggests that this will change the way we think and interact with objects in our everyday life with meat data existing for objects that do not yet exist , with design dissolving into our behavior , objects in a world as print outs ,made possible advances in future technology that are now beginning to emerge , objects as a shadow of its platonic ideal being something more real than the object itself . he seems like an interesting sort of person with something to say. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vU6Fc2TBeOY
thanksgiving. where they stuff their fucking faces while the rest of the world starves.
there wont be much of that going on soon though when they cant afford or even get food
still. it brings the family together. that’s a good thing
illya. great comment. true drug money and oil but it also feeds the war industry
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4Y8WnSKvC8 the clever person in this video has made their own 3D printer , the end of consumer society or very beginning of something else ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uys1uZZ1krw how about a pair of these ? strike it rich while you’re out walking Hammacher Schlemmer Metal Detecting Sandals
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCbx5Z84I_0 Metal Detecting Softball Fields September 15th 2009 ,this guy seems to be awefully lucky ? , max ,stacy, ,ever thought of metal detecting ?, Jardin du Luxembourg ? or Lachaise Cemetery Paris . ? you never know. http://www.subwayhotels.com/blog/wp-content/jardin_du_luxembourg.jpg http://jkneilson.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/grave_of_proust_pc3a8re-lachaise_cemetary_paris.jpg
those gamming Software can so easliy be adapted to a Squadron of Drones
@Illya Kuryakin
There is a lot more going on in India than u Think Illya the whole crap is super top secret.And trust me Our Pilots are one of the best in the world.and the Age of Dogfights is gone. The next generation will be pilotless aircrafts. So a kid who is good at gamming probably will be enrolled in the military,ROFL in charge of a Squadron.
A) he has no Clue about world Politics
B) They wont/cannot show Remorse cause there brain aint fully developed.
C)the pilotess aircraft with the best Radar and best Fire and Forget missile is gonna win
@Stacey Cocaine is it that hard to figure that out. the CIA and the US military are Probably Air Lifting it straight into US and Europe .there was a General who was gonna blow the wistle in the late 90′s i think .They just Killed him
To fulfil the prophecy and surround the ancient holy land!
IRAN!
Breaking . . . deadly attack on UN in Kabul:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20091028/as-afghanistan/
@Ilya: the F-22 & F-35 are the same basic design…yet I did view a F-22 @ Maxwell AFB doing slow turns with a F-15 as a chase plane….wasn’t impressed with the maneuver..I guess that’s what you suggest when you say slow deployment….BTW the chinese subs were “bumping” US naval vessels in the So. China Sea…nothing was really made of the proximity of the chinese at that time…On the radio news…a human rights advocate says the drones used to take out individuals may violate international rules of war…HUH!!! I still wonder what mischief all those covert (ex) employees ( retirees ???) are up to…the NSA, Delta Force, Navy Seals and other hit squad types really never quit…
yip its gotta be heroin and gas
smallest opium crop was in 2000 under tailban
largest opium crop in world history was in 2007,in that year afghanistan produced 93% of the worlds opium .
turkmenistan has the second largest proven reserves in world.the gas either goes out through russia, iran or afganistan.
as we all know it’s the right thing to do and it’s for the children [of 0.001% of the people]
@g
Raptor is actually quite capable and is designed for dogfights as well as BVR
Is that right? In optimal conditions the F-22 takes at least ten seconds to deploy it’s internal AAMs; it’s radar is one half the size of a typical Russian fighter/bomber. The SU-30 is by far the most maneuverable aircraft on the planet – there is simply no dispute about this, not even in the Pentagon. That means any US jet is likely to get shot down 100km before it even sees an SU or MiG coming. And if you actually read the article I linked you will understand that Russian AAM’s are far superior to anything the US has – a single SU can deploy 8 different AAM technologies, the US uses only one.
Obviously there is a reason why the US has gone this sorry route: they only attack countries that cannot defend themselves.
Do your own research – not the Pentagon-funded “History” Channel – and you will see that since WWII approximately 4,000 to 6,000 US fighter jets have been shot down by Russian air defence systems while less than 50 Russian planes have been shot down by US air defence systems. Undisputed facts.
What I don’t get is how do the Taliban fund their own forces if it’s the CIA,etc that controls the drugs trade? I would’ve thought both sides have a hand in it, and that a large part of the conflict in itself is about control of the poppy fields. I imagine the Taliban use it as a means to an end (getting rid of the occupiers). When the foreign forces are gone, they’ll once again brand heroin ‘un-Islamic’.
And then there’s the notion that China & Russia voted for ISAF deployment to lure the enemy into a trap. But if this is the case why don’t they give the Taliban some proper modern military hardware? Seems they have to rely on IEDs, RPGs, assault rifles and the odd Strela-2 here and there.
there are still great traditions in the US
Like?
Ilya cool it now! No need for that sort of belligerance. Raptor is actually quite capable and is designed for dogfights as well as BVR, its highly touted by APA you just mentioned.
You must make a distinction between The US and the Anglo-Americans. Most people in the US are brainwashed for the most part but there are still great traditions in the US.
@Illya:
I must say, Illya. Quite an elucid post.
Article: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/28/world/asia/28intel.html?_r=1
Shocker: New York Times reporting tonight that President Karzai’s brother is on the CIA payroll and has been for the past 8 years!!!!
Anyone have any idea why we are in Afghanistan?
Sure, it’s no big mystery.
Opium is a trillion dollar a year industry. ALL of that money get’s laundered through Wall Street. It keeps the US ‘economy’ economy afloat. When the US was in SE Asia 100% of the world’s opium came from SE Asia. Now it comes from Afghan. 1+1=2.
Then there is the matter of oil and gas pipelines that bypass Russia. Exactly how the fuck these morons think they’re going to go into Russia’s backyard and steal their market share is a mystery for the ages. It’s simply imperial overstretch: if Russia wanted to they could simply supply the Afghan Freedom Fighters with MANPADS and all of this would be over in a few months. No one would SFA about it. Well maybe Glenn Beck would but who the fuck cares what he says?
Nope, much better to let the Idiot Empire dig their own grave.
Russia has 200,000 km of pipelines in the region; Nord Stream will be on line within 24 months; South Stream will be on line in 36; Gazprom is already staked their claims in Venezuela, Bolivia, Ecuador, Canada, Africa, even the fucking USA. UNOCAL is a “pipe dream”. Nabucco is stillborn.
Afghan was all for naught. Even if the Empire establishes permanent bases in Af-Pak, they are precarious at best: they will spend more time defending them rather than using them. Besides, they’re only an Iskander tactical nuke away.
The US, just like Rome, have left the homefront undefended: a Russian sub can easily park itself 100 nautical miles from DC and simply launch. Game over. In two minutes. Their ABMs don’t work. If the US wants to park 90% of their resources in faraway nowheres, subject to easy sabotage, let them!
The recent India-US war games saw Russian SU-30′s taking out F-15′s and F16′s at an offical TEN to ONE rate in pro-USrigged,/i> exercises. The reality is probably twenty to one – and that’s with poorly trained Indian pilots!
And please, don’t even talk to me about F-22′s and F-35s: they are NOT designed for actual dogfights, but for scenarios where F15′s clear the airspace for unimpeded bombing runs. Both of them take a full 15-20 seconds to even deploy their AAM’s. They are sitting ducks. Any country that buys this dogshit technology is fucking insane. That’s why Gates put the kibosh on future orders. “5th generation” my ass. They couldn’t even take on a 30 year old SU-25. Don’t believe me? Take it from your own “allies”, the equally deluded Australians,
http://www.ausairpower.net/APA-Rus-BVR-AAM.html
When, not IF, the US gives Colombia the green light to engage Venezuela, you will see for yourselves how 36 SU-30′s completely take out the entire US-equipped and trained Colombian military apparatus.
“Why is the US in Afghanistan?” To get their asses handed to them.
My post is being moderated…. Hear Hear,,, the following,,,if this gets posted..
http://heliologue.com/2007/02/16/christopher-hitchens-on-free-speech/
General Petreus say there blessed with minerals. USGS says expensive and rare kinds.
Lets not forget about the opium.
Silk road for petro pipeline routes to Asia.
Brzezinski’s Grand Chessboard + peak oil + Israeli dual citizens setting policy for the US gov’t + the old military industrial complex
Drawing more lines with a video and a spooky readme.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiLixwNkur8
http://alexconstantine.blogspot.com/2009/10/microchip-implants-mind-control-and.html
@Phil thx 4 appreciating.
@post… advancing the use of RFID of course! Getting the kids use to human thermal fingerprinting and self-assembled photonic antenna…http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2009/06/inside-the-militarys-secret-terror-tagging-tech/
Hey, war there collapsed the Soviet Union, why not the US?
The answer is here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TA_mu9v9iJs
@Karl Marx .. Malalai Joya
Thx
Troops In Afghanistan Outnumber Taliban 12:1
Afghanistan
Read more at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/
Let’s see now… to keep fighting the proxy army of Pakistan, the Taliban… to keep the CIA proxy army of Al-Qada busy… and to generally rape and pillage the country like a good neighbor. Conflict is good for the war business.
And like LA says, to keep testing new weapons on the brown people.
Stacy, you do of course know about the pipeline?
Strange with this swine flu/state of emergency/internet thing….
The internet may not work during a pandemic!
http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSN2620750120091026?pageNumber=1&virtualBrandChannel=0
The country Afghanistan is rich with resources such as oil, opium, cannabis, amoung other things. The corporations in Afghanistan are liquidating the resources, just like they do back home in Canada.
Why – for Taser practice
Target practice with the Taser XREP. It delivers a similar Neuromuscular Incapacitation effect as the handheld Taser X26, but it can be delivered from a distance, combining the charge with blunt impact force.
The natural reaction to being hit like this is to grab for the projectile after impact, which provides an additional shock when touched and completes a circuit through the body, explained one representative.
Juxtaposition:
The innocence of a summer day and poppies:
The culpable soldiers as caretakers of death.
And Youri! Isn’t it always so with war? Isn’t it always so?
Malalai Joya: ‘A Woman Among Warlords’ speaks to NPR and they not only broadcast her but also post the audio!
Downthemall!
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=114207995#
@frances snoot
An other two for ya….Opium Harvest
http://aotearoaawiderperspective.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/afghanistan-opium-fields.png
http://markdowe.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/british-soldier-helmand.jpg
Why art we in Obama land. Isn’t it obvious. They make really good meat grinders there. It’s a Corporation US tradition to steal the most well intention and brain washed young men and women from their families and put them in a meat grinder. When I was in Nam in 69 they had good meat grinders there too. We have some very sick people running things in America. Wake up.
I’ve added some pics of the people who haunted me the most after receiving the photos.
http://twitpic.com/n71th
This is the 1st time I’ve ever put pics on the net, so I’ll have to find something else besides Twitter in order to share entire folders of pics.
Why of course Stacy,
This whole system is one creeping coup, an insurrection against constitution and law from beginning to end.
@Youri:
Excellent Photo!!!!!!
Thanks, Mep!
People want to hide from some unpleasant truths that they need to see. It’s good for them to take their hands offen their eyes.
@ frances – I worry about posting some of the more gruesome ones. Some are straight-up trophy pics. (I was given discs full of pics from my now former brother-in-law, who was in Afghanistan at the start of the war.) I’ll put up some others, though.
@Mep:
Please post the pictures!
I’m sorry if I was rude earlier. Accept my humble snooty pologies.
@Mep
Yep, our boys are treated very well in Afghansistan and they deserve it http://www.rawa.org/temp/runews/data/upimages/us_opium.jpg
Alec Phillips, an economist based in Goldman’s Washington office, said in an Oct. 23 note to clients. “Our working assumption is a further 5 percent to 10 percent decline by mid-2010.”
Goldman Sees ‘False Bottom,’ Merrill Sees ‘Treat’ http://tinyurl.com/yg2jchy
I have hundreds of war pics from Afghanistan. I’m worried about posting some of them, but I posted a couple just to show that the Afghans treated our kids very well at the outset:
http://twitpic.com/n6vtp
Karl Denningere on the Darkpools and skimming practices:
“Goldman’s argument that retail investors are “helped” or “benefit” from dark pools and other means of obscuring price discovery is a flat-out lie. ” http://market-ticker.org/archives/2009/10.html
Course,..word of the day,.!
@ g — yeah, Tarpleys great as a historian and journalist. I’ve listened to his podcast (link below) a few times and he’s started to weird me out with some of his “populist” left-Democrat rhetoric… some of the things he says — like the frequent rants about “Chicago schoolers”, “Austrian Schoolers” and insane baby-eating, privatizing “Hyena Hedge Fund Managers” without offering his listeners any analysis beyond this — seem pretty shallow and ideological. I do agree with him that the most effective criticism of Obama comes from the left, “exposing his false left-liberal cover.”
http://gcnlive.com/podcast/world_crisis/pcast.php
@Adam.C ,.RE: Manufacturing Money and Global Warming
When you add that to the limits that are going to be put on each region (reduced emissions 95% by 2050), the credits will be of course rationed, all to save the planet of course.
What a RUSH!! wow,..
CNBC Viewership Plunges 50% In October http://tinyurl.com/yl3zhcs
I think that the question
“Anyone have any idea why we are in Afghanistan?”
Is made complex on the surface due to the events of 911(Controlled demo). i.e. Osama Bin Laden… yada yada yada. Little brown people, hidden in “them thar hills”
In the words of the late great John Wayne
“I don’t feel we did wrong in taking this great country away from them. There were great numbers of people who needed new land, and the Indians were selfishly trying to keep it for themselves.”
John Wayne
Perhaps that is all, the only reason under the sun or there are huge reserves of oil and other minerals that have been litterally untouched by man over the years and the gringos know something no one else does. I remember meeting two pilots in this remote back water in Peru some years ago. Both were Americans and so I made conversation with them. they told me that they were performing aerial surveys using Thermal graphic imagery, a technique that allows geologist to interpret the presence of large bodies of oil as well as geologic anomalies.
I have since gone to college and made geology my major. Everything those two pilots told me down in Peru was correct.
Back to Afghanistan, We might consider the question “why did Russia invade Afghanistan?” Have any Russian political science folks come out of the wood works after the fall of the wall or ex Kgb spooks written books about the ,motives of the USSR’ invasion of Afghanistan?
Surely there is a reason. But what?
Regards to all,
Don
“well, lahdeedah . . . when are you going to marry your cousin then?”
I AIN’Ts gonna now, sincet I’z a Royal Blue Blood. Gonna leave this’n here trailer and makes my way out with the hoity-toity see’en since weez family and all!
Shucks. Might even get to PARIS!
Ya’ll better watch out. I just might shinny up next to y’all at that cafe! Youz’all know me by my fancy-to-gettin out shoes!
@Tofu Charlie
Do you listen to Webster Tarpley?
PS: Max and Stacy, you should have him on the show.
PS2: Whats the deal with “Where’s Kenny Boy/” is there still and investor who wants to buy up the remaining PC?
Opportunity creates the crime, perhaps the ‘mythical’ view of geopolitics allows pockets of territory to be designated testing grounds.
Nicely put!
I found this on Lew Rockwell. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/hp/ssi/wpc/ResignationLetter.pdf
Talking about strawberrys, that reminds me i haven’t had desert, thanks snoot!
@frances snoot – well, lahdeedah . . . when are you going to marry your cousin then?
And Balochistan’s rebel BLA (Buguti minority separatists) operate out of Kandahar — where they keep in touch with their CAII/Blackwater handlers, and go bowling together.
@Stacy:
Thanks. It’s due to my scarlet/pink hair net. Also, I was told today (mind-you-I’m-not-one-to-brag) that I’m a royal!!!
You wouldn’t care for some Salisbury steak? Fresh outa the steamer bin where it oozes that gelatinous shine!
shoot. Where’s them yeller gloves…..
@Chalcie:
Only thing better than wine is strawberry rhubarb pie.
Listen to this
http://www.achieveradio.com/archplayer.php?showname=Cash%20Flow%20with%20James%20Martinez&ShowURL=http://audio.achieveradio.com/cash-flow/Oct-27-2009-at-12-00PM—Cash_Flow.mp3
Discover card telling their clients to eat at their church and send their food money to pay off their card, or sell their blood for money and send that…
no shit.
This guy knows,
youtube.com/watch?v=QxlmHabxfXA
Opportunity creates the crime, perhaps the ‘mythical’ view of geopolitics allows pockets of territory to be designated testing grounds.
@WL — “We” are the Anglosphere’s passive imperialists!
@WL – US, Italy, Canada, Germany, UK, France etc.
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/KE09Df03.html
Balochistan is totally under the radar of Western corporate media. But not the Pentagon’s. An immense desert comprising almost 48% of Pakistan’s area, rich in uranium and copper, potentially very rich in oil, and producing more than one-third of Pakistan’s natural gas, it accounts for less than 4% of Pakistan’s 173 million citizens. Balochs are the majority, followed by Pashtuns. Quetta, the provincial capital, is considered Taliban Central by the Pentagon [...]
Gwadar – a port built by China – is the absolute key. It is the essential node in the crucial, ongoing, and still virtual Pipelineistan war between IPI and TAPI. IPI is the Iran-Pakistan-India pipeline, also known as the “peace pipeline”, which is planned to cross from Iranian to Pakistani Balochistan – an anathema to Washington.
Re: Brezinski, from what I’ve seen posted of the disappearing videos, they contain the exact same info as Brezinski’s paper:
http://www.chathamhouse.org.uk/files/13106_85_1brzezinski.pdf
One of the most interesting nuggets to me was this one:
Both for strategic and for historical reasons,
neither the United States nor the EU can be indifferent to what transpires in the
relations between Russia and these two countries. Last but not least, neither the
United States nor the EU can lose sight of the fact that if the Georgian government
were to be overthrown (and both Putin and his foreign minister, Lavrov, have
spoken openly of that being their desire), the strategically vital access of the West
to Azerbaijan, to the Caspian and to Central Asia would be cut, to the detriment
of our collective interests.
Money management and peak oil.
“I would suggest as others have, to those like Mr. Grantham who have attempted to proffer these ideas, that the audience at this point in history is still very much steeped in an economic paradigm that unknowingly derives its assumptions from the era of energy abundance. The modern economist is not likely to understand or even care, therefore, about the power density of oil–and that this makes his theories possible.”
http://gregor.us/psychology/professional-money-management-and-peak-oil/
Good takeaway
Who is the “we” in the question re Afganistan
In no particular order:
- Heroin as a weapon, as cashflow
- Pipelines / energy access, profit & control, zero-sum gameplay
- Aggressive geopolitical strategy vs. Russia, China. Also Iran, Pakistan… lots of options, e.g. “supporting” Balochi independence — pressure on China’s Gwadar port in Pakistan, etc
- Military-industrial profiteering
- Reinforce culture of permanent low-fi war, harden troops
- Politically troublesome to admit defeat
- Hospitable and deadly locals, “potential for growth”
- Hubris
Have you heard of Gerald Celente, the man whos predicted everything since Jesus Christ?
@Daniel S – we’ve always been at war with Eastasia
why we are in Afghanistan?
- Encirceling Iran and provoke China in a strong foothold in Asia from East of Suez to West of India.
- Opium to pay the Blackwater mercenaries and other black projects
- Prevent Oil pipeline from China to Iran
America needs war in general:
- America needs wars to keep it’s Industrial war Complex happy
- Population reduction of the Americans – the meatgrinder. And Afghanistan is the perfect country for that purpose with 8 year war already. Slowly the shallow graves are building up.
U.S. official resigns over Afghan war http://tinyurl.com/ygnt32q
@frances snoot – looking hot in that new picture
30 page pdf. Well worth a read.
Manufacturing Money and Global Warming
“Banking is a con that is, not coincidentally, just a little too complicated for the average person to grasp unless they really try… If everyone understood what really goes on, who are the winners and who are the losers, it would be outlawed in an instant. The newest game by the banks is carbon emissions trading. The plan is to manufacture emission credit certificates out of thin air, trade them between big financial companies, and compel the rest of us pay for them by producing real goods and services. The new financial slavery. Carbon emission permits are the latest paper currency, brought to you by the same crowd who profited from the world’s largest financial bubble. Same structure, same modus operandi, same beneficiaries, same exaggerations, half-truths, and tricky government statistics. Banks want carbon trading. They do not make a profit from a carbon tax, which would be fairer and simpler. Governments are not offering a carbon tax, only cap and trade. Ever wondered why?”
http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/originals/manufacturing_money_and_global_warming.html
@Marietta – Merci bien!
Just in case anyone wants to go down this gruesome thread, here’s a list of (mostly) government-caused megadeaths during the 20th century:
http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/warstats.htm
Note that this author quotes another of Zbig’s books, Out of Control: Global Turmoil on the Eve of the Twenty-first Century. Chapter 1 of this book covers megadeath, and it’s interesting to see that many times during the 20th century governments just executed millions of their citizens. Zbig puts the total number due to wars and governments at somewhere between 167 and 175 million people! Also note that Professor Rudolph J. Rummel in his book: Death By Government puts the total at over 258 million.
That’s why we’re in Afghanistan – to liquidate people.
A dumb nut dude at work went and had the Swiney vaccination last week (oh he wasn’t sick). He has now taken indefinite sick leave as he’s come down with a mystery illness. Some people deserve to pick a bail of cotton…
Geopolitics is basically angermanagement for hyperparanoid megaloman psychopaths. The dumb testosteron driven military evolved from being a serf with an inferiority complex to becoming a sociatal leech without a face. It is expected to eat itself on command, but it eats new recruits to keep itself alive. Then there is the commercial branche. Xe roaming freely in the US I would consider a terrorist organization. We are talking legaly immune massmurderers for hire.
The way Sbigniew Brezinshite defines the eternal struggle is nonsense. The only point in it is that you have to start somewhere. Then you have to hope people orginaize and move, which they will according to natural obastacles (between them and resources f.i.). His mythical insights have not prevented the US from being completely demoralized and corrupted and on the brink of collapse.
That said any kid can see that the multitrillion dollar nuclear arsenal must have appealing properties in the current situation.
WATCH
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http://www.zerohedge.com/article/computer-glitch-halts-trading-ing-stock-euronext-after-volume-spike
Mike
Sub Prime Carbon is Coming
“Carbon credits are a fiat currency, the market will have the same players and similar rules: governments decree everyone must pay tax in dollars and… trade in carbon credits. The units are worthless without government backing. It’s a “free market” but at the point of a gun.”
http://joannenova.com.au/2009/10/sub-prime-carbon-is-coming/
Manufacturing Money and Global Warming
http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/originals/manufacturing_money_and_global_warming.html
@Will
Was able to find transcript of videos that were removed from Utube:
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=77745.msg433328#msg433328
Scroll down about 1/3 of the page and you will see them.
@stacy- how do I add a picture to a comment? Is it possible in wordpress?
http://liberty.hypermart.net/cgi-bin/blogs/media/du-8.jpg
you can have a look what depleted uranium is doing in Afganistan.
I have a glass of wine!
That was a compliment.
@ Snoot
You do have the gift of gab.
@Chalcie:
shucks
And you probably have nicer things to eat than the Salisbury Steak.
The thing that’s quite annoying to me about Zbig saying that it’s easier to kill people than to control them is that it makes me wonder how out-of-control things would have to get before governments start acting on that dictum. It’s obvious that we’re getting quite a show of their attempts to control us, with all the new non-lethal weaponry being tested on protestors.
It takes a really special kind of guy to think about things like that, let alone to say them.
{Hypothetical conversation}
O: “Hey, Zbig! Yo, things are gettin’ to be kinda funky, even outta control. What do ya say, zbig guy, whaddya think we oughtta do?”
{long silence}
Z: “Well, as I have observed in the past, it is easier….”
….Nah, that could never happen.
@ Snoot It is evening here.
Chalcie:
We could put you on the free-and-reduced pay lunch plan. Would that help? I won’t tell anybody. Did you want the Salisbury steak?
Mabel says the last one went hours ago. Sorry!
The drugs man, the drugs: http://www.google.com/search?q=afghanistan+%2Bherion&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official
@Chalcie:
Did you choose your lunch yet? Huh? I wanna make a good go at my new, er, position. I seem to have earned the honour by posting so many smart-arse comments!!!
Pastor just said the Constitution was a God given document. Now, does everyone get the problem. The Nordic-Semitic joining; for the strongest Blood of ALL.; yields bleeding after bleeding; funeral after funeral.
sorry about that – it didn’t work – have been trying to put an image in the comment
Why we are in Afghanistan?
@Snoot
You’re smarter than I am.
School lunch?
A. http://keetsa.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/school-lunch.jpg
B. http://brainporno.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/schoollunch.jpg
C. http://www.thenewgreenblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/school-lunch.jpg
Brenda’s waiting. And she’s not patient. So choose!!!
1) because it’s close to the oil countries without actually being an oil country
2) Because if the Taliban is in charge, there won’t be any poppy plants growing there, and the CIA couldn’t have that
Ok, I just listened to this clip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKzEpQc-yo8
Yup, he really says it during the last minute. “Today it is infinitely easier to kill a million people that it is to control a million people.”
Also see Zbig’s Wikipedia article:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zbigniew_Brzezinski
He definitely knows better than God about how to run your life. Mine, too. In fact, he probably even knows which people should live and which people should die.
@Dedo:
That would be Brenda, now. I’m going for my dream: Lunch Lady Icon.
We need a war that lasts forever in Afghanistan to justify our “failure” to stop the opium growing that incidentally results in illicit heroin cash flows through Wall Street. The power of controlling hidden leveraged cash flows in a market like Wall Street must be immense. You can create and time pump and dumps or accentuate them, manipulate policy, subsidize anything, crush competitors, suppress or support technologies, and manipulate perspectives / paradigms.
Then there are the usual benefits of traumatizing portions of societies and raking money and influence in for the war industry.
Either that or it has something to do with not caring about genocides, independent self-rule by democratic government, or children stepping on land mines, but caring a lot about women being able to wear pants and girls getting pencil crayons and going to school.
A while back we were discussing vaccines for girls against papaloma virus. Someone put up a link about pregnant Natives being vaccinated. These vaccinations caused miscarriages. I can’t remember where these women were(Asia, I think) but I’d like to get that Utube link.
Thanks.
@Mike RE Zerohedge Citi post
As the first comment on that Zerohedge article states, that is standard practice to offer a reduced settlement of around 60% on a defaulted credit card before selling the debt to a Debt Collection Agency. A DCA will typically buy these debts for about 30% of the value owed before persuing you for the full amount (often illegally through harassment and without correct documents for owning the debt).
It would only be relevent if the defualt / delinguency was recent, say a few months, which isn’t indicated.
Yeah,..thanks Will, haven’t read that beauty yet!!
@Phil – You’re welcome!
While looking up stuff about Zbig Brother, I ran across a question on answers.Yahoo!com that was posted about a week ago and then quickly removed. It was still in the Google cache, and I’m reposting it here. Note that all the videos have been removed from YouTube, too. I have no idea about what was in the videos, but FWIW…also, here’s another YouTube (really just an audio track) which indicates that Zbig really did say that!
What a great guy!
@Phil,.To use the term “conspiracy theory” is meant to be derogatory, so as the masses laugh and point.
Say it like it is,..an open conspiracy, everything that is going on has been planned behind closed doors, and also published in full view for everyone to see,.who have eyes to see,.isn’t that right Frances?
PS; I know you were only writing it with tongue in cheek,.but it gave me a chance to make a point,.lol,.bring it on,.
Thanks, @Will!!!
@WIll .. Thx for the PDF link /Brezinski
Danny
Oct 27, 2009 at 12:03 pm
Irish Las Vegas Song
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dL_PXBt85rY
Great all the lassies running around in little green dresses bringin’ you yar Jamieson on the rocks while you lose your ass.
Just don’t locate it in Washington DC.
You can download The Grand Chessboard here:
(MS Word format, 320K) http://www.augu51.dsl.pipex.com/mmedia/Grand_Chessboard.zip
(PDF format, 2.8 MB) http://www.4shared.com/file/91375831/b991fe8b/Zbigniew_Brzezinski_-_The_Grand_Chessboard.html
‘Irish Las Vegas’ planned
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/21/20091027/tuk-irish-las-vegas-planned-e1cd776.html
@Phil
Don’t ya just love the cheesy Italian guy representing the Illuminati (I think he’s italian)
@marietta .. thanks for the link (WFC)
@Will … Bresinksi
Yes… Obama’s closest adviser !
Confessions of a Wells Fargo Banker:
http://www.youtube.com/user/BackBurnerNews#g/c/43042B668775A115
She’s preparing for the collapse. Stocked her swimming pool with fish.
Confessions of a Wells Fargo Banker:
http://www.youtube.com/user/BackBurnerNews#g/c/43042B668775A115
This woman worked at WF and explains how she was trained to pressure people into loans, make loans specifically ot non- citizens, and how her job was at risk if she didn’t.
Also says that everyone she knows in banking is preparing for the colapse and that they all know it’s coming. She has stocked her swimming pool with fish.
They need to protect their stash man.
Presumably the US military presence in Afghanistan continues to generate money for war contractors, and positions the military for attacks on Iran and Pakistan and the states of Central Asia = more money. Not difficult to understand.
The chickens are starting to flee the State Department on Afganistan.
http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/041132.html
Zbigniew Brzezinski lays out the reasons for the US being in Afghanistan in the book The Grand Chessboard. Here are some great quotes from it; I’m sure you can connect the dots:
“Ever since the continents started interacting politically, some five hundred years ago, Eurasia has been the center of world power.”- (p. xiii)
“It is imperative that no Eurasian challenger emerges capable of dominating Eurasia and thus of also challenging America. The formulation of a comprehensive and integrated Eurasian geostrategy is therefore the purpose of this book.” (p. xiv)
“How America ‘manages’ Eurasia is critical. A power that dominates Eurasia would control two of the world’s three most advanced and economically productive regions. A mere glance at the map also suggests that control over Eurasia would almost automatically entail Africa’s subordination, rendering the Western Hemisphere and Oceania geopolitically peripheral to the world’s central continent. About 75 per cent of the world’s people live in Eurasia, and most of the world’s physical wealth is there as well, both in its enterprises and underneath its soil. Eurasia accounts for about three-fourths of the world’s known energy resources.” (p.31)
“Never before has a populist democracy attained international supremacy. But the pursuit of power is not a goal that commands popular passion, except in conditions of a sudden threat or challenge to the public’s sense of domestic well-being. The economic self-denial (that is, defense spending) and the human sacrifice (casualties, even among professional soldiers) required in the effort are uncongenial to democratic instincts. Democracy is inimical to imperial mobilization.” (p.35)
“The momentum of Asia’s economic development is already generating massive pressures for the exploration and exploitation of new sources of energy and the Central Asian region and the Caspian Sea basin are known to contain reserves of natural gas and oil that dwarf those of Kuwait, the Gulf of Mexico, or the North Sea.” (p.125)
“The attitude of the American public toward the external projection of American power has been much more ambivalent. The public supported America’s engagement in World War II largely because of the shock effect of the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor.” (pp 24-5)
“For America, the chief geopolitical prize is Eurasia… Now a non-Eurasian power is preeminent in Eurasia – and America’s global primacy is directly dependent on how long and how effectively its preponderance on the Eurasian continent is sustained.” (p.30)
“To put it in a terminology that harkens back to the more brutal age of ancient empires, the three grand imperatives of imperial geostrategy are to prevent collusion and maintain security dependence among the vassals, to keep tributaries pliant and protected, and to keep the barbarians from coming together.” (p.40)
“Henceforth, the United States may have to determine how to cope with regional coalitions that seek to push America out of Eurasia, thereby threatening America’s status as a global power.” (p.55)
[Referring to an area he calls the "Eurasian Balkans" and a 1997 map in which he has circled the exact location of the current conflict - describing it as the central region of pending conflict for world dominance] “Moreover, they [the Central Asian Republics] are of importance from the standpoint of security and historical ambitions to at least three of their most immediate and more powerful neighbors, namely Russia, Turkey and Iran, with China also signaling an increasing political interest in the region. But the Eurasian Balkans are infinitely more important as a potential economic prize: an enormous concentration of natural gas and oil reserves is located in the region, in addition to important minerals, including gold.” (p.124)
“The world’s energy consumption is bound to vastly increase over the next two or three decades. Estimates by the U.S. Department of energy anticipate that world demand will rise by more than 50 percent between 1993 and 2015, with the most significant increase in consumption occurring in the Far East. The momentum of Asia’s economic development is already generating massive pressures for the exploration and exploitation of new sources of energy and the Central Asian region and the Caspian Sea basin are known to contain reserves of natural gas and oil that dwarf those of Kuwait, the Gulf of Mexico, or the North Sea.” (p.125)
“Once pipelines to the area have been developed, Turkmenistan’s truly vast natural gas reserves augur a prosperous future for the country’s people.” (p.132)
“For Pakistan, the primary interest is to gain Geostrategic depth through political influence in Afghanistan – and to deny to Iran the exercise of such influence in Afghanistan and Tajikistan – and to benefit eventually from any pipeline construction linking Central Asia with the Arabian Sea.” (p.139)
“Turkmenistan… has been actively exploring the construction of a new pipeline through Afghanistan and Pakistan to the Arabian Sea…” (p.145)
“It follows that America’s primary interest is to help ensure that no single power comes to control this geopolitical space and that the global community has unhindered financial and economic access to it.” (p148)
“America is now the only global superpower, and Eurasia is the globe’s central arena. Hence, what happens to the distribution of power on the Eurasian continent will be of decisive importance to America’s global primacy and to America’s historical legacy.” (p.194)
“Without sustained and directed American involvement, before long the forces of global disorder could come to dominate the world scene. And the possibility of such a fragmentation is inherent in the geopolitical tensions not only of today’s Eurasia but of the world more generally.” (p.194)
“With warning signs on the horizon across Europe and Asia, any successful American policy must focus on Eurasia as a whole and be guided by a Geostrategic design.” (p.197)
“That puts a premium on maneuver and manipulation in order to prevent the emergence of a hostile coalition that could eventually seek to challenge America’s primacy.” (p. 198)
“The most immediate task is to make certain that no state or combination of states gains the capacity to expel the United States from Eurasia or even to diminish significantly its decisive arbitration role.” (p. 198)
“Moreover, as America becomes an increasingly multi-cultural society, it may find it more difficult to fashion a consensus on foreign policy issues, except in the circumstance of a truly massive and widely perceived direct external threat.” (p. 211)
@Chalcie:
So you think the guys are double-dealing each other? China, Russia, and the US voted in the Security Council to mandate the armed forces in Afghanistan in 2001, then renewed the obligation year/byyear. Wouldn’t that be called joint-looting?
“Speaking before the vote, the representative of the Russian Federation said his country had traditionally supported ISAF and the continuation of its mandate as the Force continued to be important in combating the terrorist threat posed by the Taliban and Al-Qaida. However, the Russian delegation had abstained in the vote because the new issue of maritime interception had yet to be clarified.”
http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs/2007/sc9122.doc.htm
UK deposit box raid by police is worrying.
Protesters are labeled terrorists?
Next thing is they will test you if you are a meat eater and declare you an enemy of the people.
Ah, also a paedophile test even if you are not working with children http://is.gd/4EDIP
Is this a trend of an increased tendency of control by government?
“Technical problems” *cough* with ING shares on AEX
Trading stopped.
Well, China and Russia are our competition. The Gov. has nice big C5s…. Who knows what the cargo is. Also, being close, you can see how big Americas muscles are….
@ Phil,
Benjamin Fulford has saved the world from the Illuminati! Didn’t you know this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqPg-mc1CIQ
He is a nutter!
Private interests as usual (drug trafficing & MIC mafia).
Pipelines and poppies?
To be closer to China and Russia
Why, Chalcie?
To feed Americans
For the the Sandwichis there.
To be closer to China and Russia…
From ZH
Sprott Dead Gov Walking report
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/sprott-surreality-check-part-two-dead-government-walking
Gerald Celente on Russia Today
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bvc9tcJk3bw
Sheesh .. this is one hell of a Conspiracy Theory website
Check out the articles by Ben Fulford !
OMG !
http://fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/
To clean-up the mess Bush admin started
The Carlyle-Hali oil gang wanted a clean pathway from the Caspian Sea to the Persian Gulf, free from USSR influence, so we could get oil and natural gas to the gulf.
Perhaps more importantly, now that we know the Caspian Sea is not a huge reserve; is the opium interest. The Taliban were eradicating opium because it was “un islamic.” Little did they know that eradicating opium is very un amarican… So before all the opium fields were gone, we did what any redneck superpower would do: Whacked back some cold ones and butchered the enemies of heroin-freedom.
If we can’t power those carriers and C 130′s with our own oil we’re gonna have to have some killer smack to trade for it!!
I think oil and opium made Afganistan a prime starting point for taking over the Middle East because the loot may pay for the occupation itself. Off the books of course. On the books it needs to look bad to fleece the taxpayer. Two for one baby. If Iraq could stabilize and the US could pump oil, Iraq would be self sustaining as well, but the locals are privy to this. And so the US turns that problem into a solution as well:
We fleece the taxpayer for more money by getting a steady amount of taxpayers children killed. “Just one more trillion peasants, than all the towel-heads will be subjugated like you. You will be secure. No more terror. We will have won.”
Is it rude to discuss the UN Mandate?
http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs/2001/sc7248.doc.htm
I’d hate to be indelicate.
Its part of a struggle to rule the world. Encircling Russia and trying to prevent any attempts of the great Eurasian powers to start cooperating. But I think the USA is failing. Jekaterineburg may have been the first meeting showing what awaits us in the future.
Heroin and oil is part of the motive too.
“Who rules East Europe commands the Heartland; Who rules the Heartland commands the World Island; Who rules the World Island commands the World.”
Why, Here’s another comment from Grayson!
http://rawstylus.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/hippo.jpg
A Must Read
Posted on an earlier thread :
DR.M.A. Rose
Oct 27, 2009 at 10:35 am
I assumed this enclosed link
http://fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/government/new_world_order/news.php?q=1256575557
was drivel until I saw your comment Stacey
BAC and WFC !!
@y’all
Q: why are we in aghanistan?
er…. coz all the other major battlefields were being used!
Grayson could be in the Macy Day Parade this year for his propensity to float as a patriotic hot air idiom whilst serving banker interest and remaining bound to earth only by the lassitude of his intellect. What a feat!
like this number:
“Here I am the only member of Congress who actually worked as an economist, and this lobbyist, this K Street whore, is trying to teach me about economics,” he said.”
@Mep
…Unocal connection
There’s been much debate over Karzai’s alleged consultant work with Unocal (Union Oil Company of California), since acquired by Chevron in 2005. In 2002 when Karzai started getting heavy media coverage as one of the front runners to lead Afghanistan it was reported that he was a former consultant for Unocal.[51][52][53] Spokesmen for both Unocal and Karzai have denied any such relationship, although Unocal could not speak for all companies involved in the consortium.[54] The original claim that Karzai worked for Unocal originates from a December 6, 2001 issue of the French newspaper Le Monde.[54] Barry Lane UNOCAL’s manager for public relations states that, “He was never a consultant, never an employee. We’ve exhaustively searched through all our records.”[55][56] Lane however did say that Zalmay Khalilzad, the U.S. ambassador to Afghanistan, was a Unocal consultant in the mid-1990s.[57]…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamid_Karzai#Unocal_connection
@Mep .. Karzei
IIRC, either M.Ruppert or Schwarzbuch USA mentioned it !
I think it was the former.
Canada’s pension system in complete Chaos.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/retirement/
Main reason for Afganistan is the same as for Iraq, Iran, Bosnia, a lot of -stans and bunches of other places in which we interfere or want to.
They are “semi-independent” and have different policies which “need to be changed or else” to please our corporate masters.
This would also apply to Russia and China but we are chickenshit about being nuked or invaded by 5 million armed Chinese.
India is not on the list as their food is no good.
someone tell AJ that 50% of the “Primary Dealers” are Foreign Banks….someone also mentioned that Foreign banks have “financed” this country since before the “beginning”….most of the Gold deposited in this country…came//comes from overseas….think of “us” as the praetorian-merc(NWO -Hessian) safety-deposit box….that’s what the aircraft carriers are for.
@M,..Apparently it all started approx’ two yrs ago, same time the financial system was demolished,and offshore accounts seized,..go figure!
Ilya was saying plans don’t work,.well I’m seeing one right in front of my eyes unfold, bit by bit every frickin yr since a long time ago,…
As Frances pointed out,..it doesn’t take a rocket scientist,.BTW speaking of rocket scientists, do you know where I can buy one,..I’m gettin’ the fk out of here!!
OT – Am I the only person who didn’t know that Grayson used to work as an economist?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/27/grayson-calls-linda-rober_n_335447.html
@ Phil – I thought the claim about Karzai came from only 1 source: a French newspaper.
@M … ” Anyone have any idea why the UK police is massively raiding safe deposit boxes!”
Because they ( the Govt. ) can !
A Government is the only institution that can “legally” use force on the people !
Great Eh ?
Jamie Dimon live on bloomberg now
What a lying piece of crap
The Banker meets Congress
…Remake of ‘The Joker’ from Dark Knight.
‘The Banker’ confronts Congress with the truth about his plan – to use the hidden timebomb of derivatives as regular shock treatment to illicit further bailouts.
Apologies for the dreadful accent.
…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eZpE3RhLFQ&feature=sub
Video from flaskofcoffee !
Anyone have any idea why the UK police is massively raiding safe deposit boxes!
Guess I’ll have to start hiding my gold in my arse…
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/moslive/article-1222777/The-raid-rocked-Met-Why-gun-drugs-op-6-717-safety-deposit-boxes-cost-taxpayer-fortune.html
I learned form someone at Shell that the Kaspian oil and gas reserves pose a problem because they are under enormous pressure. Like some forms of geothermal heat (in Australia) that can not be used safely, and the recent mudwells in Indonesia that nobody has been able to stop and like nobody wants to drill in the Yellowstone Caldera because it may explode and destroy life as we know it, Shell people think that opening up those reserves may simply be to dangerous for the regions stability..
Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bombistan…Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, Bombistan… Oh Bombistan…we’ll rape your land, we got you rockin’ and a shockin’, DU bombs a sockin’ …Bombistan bomb bomb, bomb Bombistan…
It’s called, in PR parlance, “softening up the market”…in this case, oil fields, gas pipelines, opium/heroin markets, just those things that we’d love to control.
@WL,..Must be this “new” definition of freedom Bush junior was talking about,.huh
@Mep … It’s questionable whether Karzai was a UNOCAL consultant
That is a well known fact AFAIK !!
@Gordo …. “Legalize It: Insider Trading Is a Victimless Crime, Says James Altucher”
Altucher says it’s a matter of pragmatism, suggesting insider trading is:
A victimless crime
Almost impossible to prosecute
A big waste of taxpayer money
What an Effing Idiot !
Just legalize stealing .. it’s the same !
Let alone “Insider trading” I would BAN all Insider Stock and Options awards … period !
Why ?
a) it’s tax evasion
b) it’s diluting the “real” shareholder’s assets
c) it entices CEOs/CFOs to lie and cheat and commit fraud
You only have to ask where the cumulative profits ( over 10-2ß0 years ) of some big US Corporations are … in Management’s pocket , that’s where !
the overland pipeline route from the caspan oil and gas fields–ie a thumb on supply to china and ind india
AND now that were there, to share in the profits from the huge drug trade.
tell max as long as he laughs he is no threat to goldman etc–it works to disarm the reaction
@Phil,.I know, there’s double think for ya,..right in the face,with a baseball bat!!
The great game
….but for the yuppees…”USA! USA! USA!”
@ Richard – It’s questionable whether Karzai was a UNOCAL consultant. But Khalizad was:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zalmay_Khalilzad
@Dedo
Center for American Progress is a Soros propaganda front, among many.
control of the overland pipeline route to the oil and gas fields in the caspian basin—ie a thumb on supply to china and india—-and now that we are there include gaining the profits from the huge drug trade; yes, i said ‘gain’
This a–hole says that a boom is just ahead and that insider trading should be legal.
I probably could not make this up. Well I could but….
http://finance.yahoo.com/tech-ticker/article/361119/Legalize-It-Insider-Trading-Is-a-Victimless-Crime-Says-James-Altucher?tickers=spy,dia,qqqq,^dji,^gspc
http://finance.yahoo.com/tech-ticker/article/361005/Economy-and-Market-Going-to-Blast-Off-from-Here-Altucher-Says?tickers=^ixic,^gspc,^dji
thats an easy one. Insulation of the Military Complex and its complete and intimidation in Washington. Hopey McChange does not want the back of his head blown out like JFK. Hubris.
Heroin trade. Weak-ass geopolitical concept of ‘Russian encirclement’.
They know O Sama is long dead and there is no real Al Qaeda to speak of, its a nice Halloween story.
@Richard … I wonder why exactly Stacy asked this question
I think everyone was wondering !
@Dedo … ROTFLMAO … sounds more like the US !
Afghan Citizens Need Help
Poverty Is Widespread
Literacy Levels Are Inadequate
Life Expectancy Is Low
Unemployment Is High
Domestic Violence, Forced Marriages, and Roadblocks to Opportunity
Violent Attacks
Lack of Representation in the Police
Low Literacy and Education Rates
Poor Maternal Mortality Rates
Security Is Deteriorating and Insurgency Is Growing
Each Year Is Deadlier than the Last
US overpopulation, by about 200 million surplus people.
It was hoped that such a war might have 50 million casualties, but so far that plan has not worked.
The oil and gas pipelines have been and always will be pipe dreams.
This is not the Afghanistan of yore where the King could be bought off for Gold bars and the peace from that would be enduring.
You can have them, but at a cost of 35 million casualties as a bare minimum.
Mean while over at Citi:-
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/increasing-signs-stress-citi
@Phil: good day mate…one again your consistent posts reach deep into the morass and educate time and time again…yes…I wonder why exactly Stacy asked this question…..I recall something about Code Pink folks backing the war as a means to liberate the Afghani women..maybe she is wondering who is tuned into Code Pink??
Wall Street music chairs
It just amazes me that this market is not at ZERO … and is probably not because all the BigMoney Sharks represent probably 99% of all trades executed.
I do not believe that it is only 70% … that may be “just” the HFT … but the rest is certainly not retail or anything close !
I suppose they have to keep up the illusion …a Zero-WS would mean their certain death !
Had to share this piece of propaganda,.unbelievable ,..unfortunately not!
http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2007/12/40reasons.html
@Richard@lattitude30N … Yes !
It’s all about pipelines and keeping Russia/China out of the Middle East… not to mention the US drug trade !
A guy that worked for me in the 70′s (also called Richard ) was in Vietnam for 4 years … and told me all the stories about drugs there ..their main business !
UK’s Mail Online – The outrageous truth slips out: Labour cynically plotted to transform the entire make-up of Britain without telling us
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1222977/MELANIE-PHILLIPS-The-outrageous-truth-slips-Labour-cynically-plotted-transform-entire-make-Britain-telling-us.html#ixzz0V9bh0bXk
Answer to Why Afghanistan beginning at 54 minutes into video
http://republicbroadcasting.org/?p=4730
@ Dedo – Yeah, I wonder, too.
@Mep,….I wonder how many Afgan’s were killed ?
Probably none Mep. Remember, Obama’s not going to rush decisions to put troops in harm’s way, even if those troops would help those already in harm’s way.
Been a war in Afganistan since forever. All to do with resources, strategic location.
8 more US troops died today in Afghanistan. October has been the deadliest month to date for troops:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/27/8-us-troops-die-in-multip_n_335350.html
I wonder what affect that will have on the President of Peace’s decision to send more troops?
@Stacy: Serious???? Well, to begin with I am not in Afghanistan the NATO coalition of the willing is…The UNICAL oil firm mapped out a number of oil pipeline routes prior to the invasion…Kharzi is a former UNICAL exec…one of the routes reaches passes thru Afghanistan…secondly the VP energy meeting in early 2001 mapped out the global oil reserves and it is rumored that the Iraqi and Afghan fields were on the map…furthermore, poppies were almost eradicated at that point in 2001, and the Bush crime family are steeped in the global drug trades as is noted by C.A.Fitts and Gary Webb, and Eugene Hasenfus….and the Viet Nam era Air America plane fleet, and those flights exposed by D. Hopsicker…here in Florida….and oh well I got off my topic…it’s the spread global hegemony and Empire building…so..Stacy…why are we there?? to bring about a new age for female liberation and rights????
I do in fact. I conclude that it is for at least one of three possible reasons:
1. Create Chaosistan (waiting to ignite the pakistan india conflict) to allow easy domination of Asia.
2. To deplete the conventional army to a point where it becomes easier to sell the use the nuclear option. Conventional needs oil, so it can’t be dependend on.
3. To ignite the future conflict the moment americans get decimated as they try to withdraw from the battlefields without a acceptable currency. Retaliation will start WOIII.
@StacEy,.I didn’t know you were!!
Interesting . . . George Soros spending $50 million in an effort to reform free-market zealotry:
http://www.newsweek.com/id/219720
Heroin. Poppy seeds. Oil pipelines. Pakistan.
We are “spreading democracy” by trying to gain strategic control of oil pipelines.
It’s wonderful climate, excellent spas, and it’s to ‘die for fashions’.