Stacy Summary: h/t @Richard S. A third grader could have figured this out. And, of course, however, mom and pop marijuana growers are also threatening the profits of a certain ahem intelligence agency.
The shifting economics of the marijuana trade have broad implications for Mexico’s war against the drug cartels, suggesting that market forces, as much as law enforcement, can extract a heavy price from criminal organizations that have used the spectacular profits generated by pot sales to fuel the violence and corruption that plague the Mexican state.
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The cocaine importation agency?
No stopping the escalation and violence in Mexico. I was in Tijuana last November. Gee, I thought this is what our cities in the US will look like in 50 years (maybe less)
Stacy
We had alsort of attacks on shop keepers because the “Normal” drugs trade has hit the buffers.
Mike
You would have to be desperate to buy Mexican weed, its crap.
I want to meet with that 3rd grader, Stacy. I’ll put him to work in my company. =)
You would think the dummies could put 2 and 2 together and understand that there is no Al Capone today because alcohol is legal, if you made hamburgers illegal than Max would would be dealing burgers on the corner(what cha need man i got a quarter pound fo yo ass!) supply and demand, government cuts the supply and someone somewhere will always take a look at risk reward and do what they need to do. Just decriminalize it to misdemeanors and no public highification and the drug lords would drop the guns and have to pick up a hammer or a lawnmower to make a living, no prejudice intended.
@Ingvend Storrs – hey, I also have a first grader who could work for you; same qualifications
This struggle stands as a testiment of the life and times of Canadian Marc Emery, whom attempted to overgrow the government by selling marijuana seeds to Americans. He claimed he went to war with the U.S. DEA over draconian marijuana laws, and attempted to empower people to do their own planting.
The Vancouver Police Department raided his political headquaters in Vancouver in 2005, and brought him into custody to have him extradited to the U.S.A. as per the D.E.A.’s request. All this government heavy handedness, when Marc was filing his taxes to Revenue Canada, declaring exactly how much income he earned and how much was donated to various other political causes geared toward ending prohibition of marijuana. The Canadian government has its hands in the cookie jar all along.
If Marc had been charged in Canada of the same crime, he would receive a $200 fine.
Critical point today.
DJIA, NasDaq and S&P are all at the moment of truth IMO.
Either we have another mini-rally or it’s down down down.
CIT BK on Sunday could be a trigger !
Will the FED’s ( now secret ) PPT rescue the market before EOD ?
The Buds of Wrath
http://miller-mccune.com/business_economics/the-buds-of-wrath-1506
Sonoma County California Is the place you want to be
@Photoconception: very funny…as a former home grown farmer and a former importer…yes Stacy…some of us countercultural folks have a varied history…I might agree…but when I resided in Humbodlt in the early 1980′s I found some of the growers were refugees from areas where the fed refused them family welfare benefits ( and just that area permitted such a benefit>>herding the sheep??? ) and so the cycle existed where a poor family merely persisted on monthly payments during a recessionary period and when the harvest manifested..well the law enforcement ( OPERATION C.A.M.P ) folks empties the woods of many crops…so if unsuccessful an indentured serfdom continued into the winter awaiting yet another chance to break the poverty cycle the following spring…But I digress…the Mexican trade began when Southern California surfers migrated to the Baja and upon meeting growers there…who wanted Uncle Pepe smuggled into the trunk on their way back to the USA ( payment being weed) so the marijuana trade began….But Again I digress…the $200 million found in a room recently belonging to the meth lab chemical supplier is one example of goverment (federales ) involvement in the drug trade..Mena,AR here in the states is another and Miami, Florida and TX, AZ, NM import sites( and the caves that cross the border ) are notorious…yet the prison system is the product of a war against this countercultural import and domestic economy….Years ago the hippies traveled the world educating the “farmers”on better growing methods…When I was in AZ a potential billionaire flew away from his harvest when the federales discovered it and he had 1000 campacinos as harvesters each responsible for 1000 plants…you do the math…Also recently the most vocal advocate of Canadian weed was sent to US prison for exporting hemp seeds to the US…60-70% of all the 2.2 million prisoners are non violent offenders…they might include some of America’s least known entrepeneurs….all unemployed and now made unemployable….Whether the Bush Crime Family believes they can survive without weed is clearly the focus now that they control all coca and poppy production…weed was always the lesser profitable substance…it weighed too much for the profit received( and the $$$ laundering was more difficult too )..many folks have and will continue to suppliment their income by growing the weed plant…I look forward to doing that gain
@Stacy: you have a first grader????didn’t know..thought you were san children
Here at Marc Emery central, most back yard gardens have at least three or four Marijuana plants. Must be something in the climate here, because some of this stuff is enough to put a bull moose to sleep. And if you are so inclined, just take a walk out in the woods and I’ll garantee you’ll come across a bush grow of sorts. Pot is a plant. It grows everywhere. Even on some peoples balconies. All of this information is from one of my friends of course as I would never smoke pot.
(pants are now on fire)
At last…some good news
European Socialists give thumbs down on Phony Tony Blair EU Presidency. Blair only has the support of Europe’s leading neocons, bankers, and Zionists.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/8333192.stm
@Richard@lattitude30N – No, no, I have a very sweet nephew in the first grade who could work out the above economic situation and he would, therefore, qualify for that job on offer
Maybe the teachers pension should buy a pot farm?
Illinois Teacher Fund Confronts $35 Billion Unfunded Liability
The Teachers Retirement System for the State of Illinois finished its year ended June 30 with an unfunded liability of $35 billion, according to the report. Fund assets declined to $28 billion from $38.4 billion a year earlier, while the value of benefits due reached $73 billion, according to the report.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=atzvnSNhv8ig
My turn : ‘Impossible’ Device Could Propel Flying Cars, Stealth Missiles
http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2009/10/impossible-drive-designers-dream-flying-cars-stealth-missiles/
To Alex Jones, Max Keiser and Stacey Herbert,
Food for thought ROFL PMSL I just figured out they already have the Global Currency it’s the Euro.
They spread that rumor about the Amero just to throw us of track. See Columbus did not discover USA (Well West Indies cause he was searchin for India)until until 1492 A.D. plus people thought the world was flat so they called the world Europe I think.
Well it makes sense now. So after crashing the Dollar they just adopt the Euro , Plus that’s faster than creating a new currency. (world Currency). And if you’ve noticed the Dollar and Euro have almost been on par with each other more a less OFC the Euro has always preformed better than the Dollar that’s because Europe had better work ethics because A> they seen a WAR ,B> Like we all know they have a manufacturing Economy unlike the US which is Consumption Based. Plus 15 % would be military based .So you got I guess 15 % of real manufacturing.
So I feel the super Ultra Rich are secretly buying Euros. Also Saddam Hussain Figured this out and started selling Oil in Euros that’s the main reason why he got invaded and ofc Haliburton. Euro’s = UN. = IMF.
CHEERS ROFL PMSL
Bonn.
Mish : Spotlight on Eastern European Currencies and Gold
http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2009/10/spotlight-on-eastern-european.html
I’d agree that nobody has been talking about European banks for a while … I wondered as well, considering the eastern Blocks chaos !!
Ahhhh! I was joking about the first and second grader. @Ingvend . . . you don’t happen to own a blueberry farm? http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/young-children-working-blueberry-fields-walmart-severs-ties/story?id=8951044
But on the Contrary they would wanna fleece Europe to so Greedy bastards but the anyway in Charge of the Euro so as once one of em said once u control the money u control the country plus if they introduce something like “Earth Dollars” People would raise eyebrows ROFL PMSL i Love to Argue with myself
ROFL and to all the people i invest only in Land not appartments and houses . thats what i meant by real estate.Sorry for miss information but Land comes under Real estate
but then again :_) n in my opnion Gold and Silver is a Scam still it wil always be. I havent used Gold or Silver in my 33 years of existence
@Bonn .. Land
Well, you’re lucky you don’t own any in Germany, the Church now owns 1/3rd. .. or is it 2/3rds. of all German land.
My farmer friend asked me last year whether he should sell a plot of land …I told him to keep hold of it .. as good as gold; better than paper money in the bank !
I am amused to see these articles, as I live right in the middle of the major growing regions. There are, in fact, cannabis “grows” all over Northern California these days. The county here has a moratorium on the opening of new dispensaries. Cannabis is probably saving the region from slipping into a complete depression.
The locals are indeed upset with the Mexican cartel growers, because the latter invade our public forests, and make a mess there. Their growing practices damage the environment, and the product is (I am told) inferior.
Having watched several relatives drink themselves to death, I have never understood the contention that cannabis is dangerous. So far as I know, there has never been a case of someone dying from an overdose of weed, unlike alcohol.
N i would’nt be suprised if the King of Saudi was given Gold free to use in his Palace to PR Gold as well as dubai burj al arab Advertisement of Gold ooooo its so sexy every one wants it every one needs it all load of horse shit in my opnion And that color looks so Gaudy and repulsive in my opnion but very hard to reproduce i could just imagine if Humans were color blind like dogs are supposedly color blind ROFL PMSL
@Phil – did you see this from the Showdown in Chicago:
http://www.energybulletin.net/50527
A small farmer talks about the industrial farmers that are not only hollowing out the soil and communities; but are also using huge leverage and that they could be the next too big to fail
Loss of control…sounds somewhat similar to the N. Dakota State Bank (state governed) vs. central banks (federal reserve?) situation only for different reasons.
I’ve often wondered what % of our fictitious economy is based on illegal drugs? Maybe the CIA or FBI has an answer.
“We might be early watching these Eastern European Currencies but this is clearly a potential flashpoint, one that few others are watching. A strong move in the Forint, Krona,or Zloty could put pressure on the euro and in turn push the US$ higher if a European banking crisis ensues.”
Phil:
From the Mish link you provided. The Eastern European Currencies are in the dollar valuation basket. How would a spike affect the dollar?
“There is seldom a mention of the problems in European banks who foolishly lent money to the Baltic States in Euros or Swiss Francs and now those Baltic country currencies have collapsed and the loans cannot be paid back.”
The money involved in the Baltic banking subprime lending fiasco was in the basket, so as to say. The IMF is moving in for the kill: essentially filling the gap between the default and any risk to the lender.
Do you understand what Mish is on about?
I meant are NOT in the basket the Eastern European currencies…typo-ed.
Nobody comented on my Euro as the global currency
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtVAMNivQMk&feature=player_embedded#at=38
Cop smokes pot, gets paranoid…
Bonn:
I will if you don’t use the ROFL PMSL cap-diss for one day.
@ frances snoot
Latvia has taken money from German an swedens banks n now they refusing to pay though i think i heard it from Max lol
The Euro is not really an independent currency as it is linked in a valuation basket with the dollar, pound, yen, krona, and loonie. It’s fate seems quite tied to the other currencies in the basket: that is why the Euro-Socialcrats were so miffed about the dollar fall. That is why I don’t understand the Mish post as the Eastern European currencies are really inconsequential to the Europeans being untied to original loan and the IMF loan. The IMF did the same shit as our .gov: came in and hit the BAILOUT button and then put the citizens on the responsible parties line. Congress seems almost to be WORKING for the IMF at times. It’s uncanny.
@Stacy .. Thanks … very interesting :
…
“I’m here to talk to you today about the long-term effects of the decisions that the dishonest Wall Street bankers have done to my community,” Huelskoetler said. “Like in many rural communities, family farmers in my area are struggling and having a difficult time with the decisions made by the people on Wall Street.”
“I’ve been farming for 37 years, and 7 years ago a Wall Street investor came and bought the farm that my family has farmed for 50 years. I then talked to the investor. He said, “Give me an extraordinarily high rent and you can continue to farm.” I said, “I can’t give you that kind of rent and do the job right.” He said, “Too bad, I’ll bring in a mega-farmer.” “…
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“The mega-farms have extended credit that family farmers can only imagine, and they are leveraged to the hilt. But now they are facing a crisis of falling crops. The outlook is not good. The warning sounds are all around us. Just look at the fall of the housing industry and the disaster in the auto industry. We need to prevent this from happening in central Ilinois and all through the Midwest.”
“We need to break up the big banks. We need banks that understand good farming practices, soil stewardship … and look at the long-term picture for the good of the environment and not just short-term profits.”
The Wall Street Journal also reported that Garry Klicker, who is with the Iowa Citizens for Community Improvement, took time away from harvesting his corn and soybeans in Bloomfield, Iowa, to voice his anger at the protests against the ABA. “This is not a financial system,” he said. “This is a financial disaster.”
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I watched ( yet another ) excellent TV Doc. on German TV last night ( is for me 2am-4am ) about Australian Famers and their problems … slightly different from the above.
It seems that due to the droughts, they are having to sell their sheep at auctions rather than watching them starve and thirst to death. The Farmers spend a lot of time searching for and removing the dead sheep from their farm land.
As this problem is wide-spread, the Auction prices are now well under 1$ per sheep, whereby normally they would fetch 40$s !
As to the above article, which is more wilful destruction due to fianancial greed rather than the natural disaster in Australia, I can only say … Strike … and see if the Banksters themselves want to work on the land !
Here is a guy who knows about homegrown. One of the best in the musical business. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6F2qExLsic
@Bonn .. Euro as Global or Reserve currency ?
Neither will happen IMO !
/ frances explained to some extent.
@Phil:
Please do elaborate.
RED ALERT
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/nyse-update-getting-scary-out-there
Citi Bust?
Mike
Is it because the reserve currency designee is stuck with escalating inflation and capital drain? Which made China an apt victim, er partner, for trade? Enabling a war in Iraq which was not approved by the EuroSocialcrats but which they sedaciously allowed?
Keep Laughing i have taken a 11 year sebatical from work though i am a computer Science Grad with a questionable MBA but i dont work cause i i have always invested in land
@frances .. Euro
You implicity explained a major root problem with the Euro … the fact that it represents a mix of cultures that do not belong together.
The Eurocrats forced the Euro upon us without even asking .. just like they forced the Lisbon Treaty on us in the same way.
I do not know any private people that like the Euro , that includes people from … Germany, UK, Italy, Spain, France, Belgium, Holland, Portugal … and Italy, Spain & Portugal in particular.
In a way, the Euro’s arrival did have one good reason for coming into existence : it made people aware of how “fiat money” is created and manipulated by their Governments such that the daily struggle of “keeping up” with your daily running costs becomes more difficult as time goes on.
What I found flabbergasting is the way the EU rewarded Ireland by letting them just hide their “debt” in SPVs…. as if the Maastrich Treaty (63%) meant nothing, which of course it did ( mean nothing ).
Parrrrrrrrrrrrrrty!
@Mike/Liverpool … NYSE : RED ALERT
LOL … they always seem to do that when trade volume increases on down days … so they can “stop out” your stop losses … and you only find out afterwards !
Phil:
Who are the Eurocrats who played this hand on Germany?
Lets face it if u gonna tell Europe theres this new currency they gonna say F##k you
I’m sorry, Bonn. Please use your ROFL PMSL! I am missing it already.
Bonn! Europe has everything to gain from the sdr-valuation scheme!
What if the next Agenda is to crash the POUND ?
The dollar has already lost 10 % of it value aginst the Indian rupee in the last 6 months or less
@frances … Kohl
Merkel was his protogee.
BTW , during a recent interview ( show on Frontal 21 ), a dutch journalist asked Schauble ( Interior minister now to become Finance Minister ) and Merkel about a sum of 100,000 Euros for weapons deals .. “where was the money”.
Schauble & Kohl were blood brothers and Kohl was hauled in front of the highest German court and refused to let them search his house ( in front of 30 mio. viewers). Kohl won.
The weapons dealer “Schreiber” , who was recently hauled back to Germany just before the elections (Munich), was a supposed to become a key witness in the Kohl and CDU weapons case. Strangely, the politicians must have reached – yet again – some back-door agreement, because we’ve heard nothing since … and the elections are now over !
My guess .. the SPD was planning to use him to smear the CDU just before the elections, but discovered they’d themselves were probably also implicated .. therefore nothing came out … Just guessing of course !
LOL @ Ratigan as Thomas Jefferson:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/30/dylan-ratigan-dresses-as_n_340166.html
Happy Halloween!
ROFL PMSL i just heard in INDIA on CNN Dast is CNN ( looks like more of Hitler ) ROFL Why tf are the saying that to Indians dunno if u guys heard it. that is pure German LOL did a few courses on german language the Lunacy continues ROFL with permisision of Illya n Phil i think
Pretty interesting interview with Murray Pollitt..
Part 1 Part 2
http://www.beearly.com/
and
October 24, 2009: MEMORANDUM FOR THE PRESIDENT: FROM: Arthur F. Burns; June 3, 1975 – NEW… MUST READ
http://www.beearly.com/pdfFiles/Burns1975.pdf
How is everyone going to go shopping for Christmas?
The latest Mintel data on credit card direct mail offers to consumers showing Q3 of this year against the preceding few years. The drop is … precipitous, from 2.1-billion a quarter in 2006 to 391-million in the most recent quarter.
http://tinyurl.com/ya386rd
Nice, pic, huh?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Vladimir_Putin_with_Helmut_Kohl-1.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qffxv3JWeI
It seems to me that it is the pharmaceutical companies and the war mongers that have the most to lose by legalizing marijuana….it’s hard to sell high priced anti-depressants if people can grow their own medicinal cures and it’s hard to wage war when all your soldiers just want to be creative and get along with others.
The people that sell it!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2K-_2AHYh0
@Jeff the kid heard the economy was going to pot…so he figured he would, too!
@Mep:
I don’t get it. Why the emphasis on ‘founding fathers’? It is a meme that has exploded in the ‘bad banks’ vs. honest government or honest money agenda.
I find it nauseating seeing as Ratigan is paid for by the corporate media. Who cares about George Washington? How is George Washington relevant to anything anymore? Or Jefferson? Might as well call up Mark Twain or Geranimo.
@Dante .. Thx .. DEclassified !
LOL … remember that “CLASSIFIED” video yesterday !
Ironic.
And yes, the FED rules the world, or think they should at least !
@ Dante
Maybe this will replace the crack-houses in your neighborhood.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T65gkx3rf9s
ooo i am so Drunk now 7 th large down of whysky i wish i could afford Glenfredige thats soooo smooth
The U.S Government has it figured out… TAX
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5q2-iF1YLI&feature=related
Extra income, work at home.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSCnhM1BHNs&feature=related
@y’all
‘Internet Addresses set for change’
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8333194.stm
@frances
is that like saying your great grandfather is worthless. Criticism is a sharp knife in some camps, and a weapon in others. HA
Fight the power. Stem the deficit. Grow your own.
@JustGetItRight:
I thought about it and wondered if it has to do with our money: the calling up of Jefferson’s bones. Guess?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nickel_(United_States_coin)
The Jefferson nickel. He’s quite familiar to us all. What does the nickel represent?
Any ideas?
Like a ‘your momma’ joke?
Idioms?
@y’all
maybe one of the best tunes ever written ’bout rockin’ the ganje….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUP4cyOjg4A
The Temptations – Take A Stroll Through Your Mind (mp3)
http://tinyurl.com/yaz8p8u
@sam53
cheers glad you liked the GSH!!!
‘how to eat your watermelon in white company.’
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mikt0j14yl8
@y’all
UK drugs tzar sacked today for telling the truth:
‘The professor said smoking cannabis created only a “relatively small risk” of psychotic illness.
and attacked what he called “artificial” separation of alcohol and tobacco from illegal drugs.’
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8334774.stm
@frances
a nickel is an illusion of value, which has substituted the transaction of barter. Does it matter which bust in on the devils advocate=money. I guess the choosing of famous people, is synonymous with the fight and spirit that built the US into a dominate society in our world.
Many famous people have paved the way to create civil advancement throughout history. Socrates, Karl Marx, Julius Caesar, Kublai Khan, Napoleon Bonaparte, Moses, Jesus Christ, Johann Sebastian Bach, William Shakespeare, Michelangelo, Steven Spielberg, Galileo Galilei, Sigmund Freud, Thomas Alva Edison, Christopher Columbus. So, what good did any of these dead souls mean for anything?
The men on money were pioneers for the betterment of civil being. It is the power of greed, an unbelievable power, that has changed the game. The men playing the game today, are tearing down decades of civil stability, world war is the next level.
Just not right to “dis” the men, that have advocated and so struggled for liberty frances.
@JustGotItRight:
Did I diss Jefferson? I hope not! I don’t mean to diss anyone: I just question things with words! What I meant by the “founding father’s meme” is the use of image to evoke emotion and sway opinion. My opinion is that those that issue money use the images on the money for their own advantage.
I like the way you put things: gently but with conviction.
cassetteboy says it like it is
http://www.youtube.com/user/cassetteboy#p/a/u/2/6QapZI2cLQQ
@y’all
all Y’all good luck with the swine flu, remember lotsa good food and exercise… garlic… etc.
Terry Callier – The Lazarus Man
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAfTI5vi5F8
@y’all
also… The Wire… pure funk!!!
The Wire – se04 montage.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-wjFGhqKQE
Golden brown…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmzkmqvuDiE
Coming Into Los Angeles…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsnUu71Viyo
Systemize and legalize.
Mejiko
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8335341.stm