Stacy Summary: From what I can tell looking at history, all peoples of every empire at its peak, just before its imminent collapse, belligerently maintain their lifestyles at all cost to their own wealth and their own chance of survival. For a number of reasons, you cannot talk them into saving themselves.
While thousands upon thousands of hours are spent in America, for example, trying to prove that spewing exhaust and carbon into the air is, in fact, perfectly natural with zero cost and that there is, also, in fact, (according to one Big Oil study) enough fresh water, fertile land and oil to provide for a doubling of the global consumer class for thousands of years into the future, Americans (most who, by the way, believe the Earth is only a few thousand years old) continue to insist with an almost religious fervor on getting from point A to point B in the most inefficient manner.
Again, from my reading of history, it is impossible to fight this sort of end of empire bankruptcy of morals, wealth and, most importantly, ideas. The American empire and her citizens want to blow it on oil, so that’s how they will do it. No amount of science or reasoning can stop them. And as they will use any means necessary to get whatever oil remains, it makes no sense to try to develop your own economy using a resource that the Empire has devoted all their military might toward securing. The British, Dutch, French, Germans and other Europeans did not dare stand in the way of Spain’s maniacal quest for gold in the New World; instead, they took the gold-less lands and with them developed manufacturing and trade routes in sugar, cotton, wheat, fur, etc.
For those not emotionally attached to the old ideas and decaying lifestyle of empire and her oligarchies, there is actually amazing opportunity to build your own systems. So here are some articles on progress at the edge of that empire. As you can see, it is still trial and error phase. Many will fail, but something new will emerge to lead us to the next phase of human history. Notice in many of the articles, Germany and China are the barbarians at the gate in terms of dominating the manufacturing of new technologies, while the US is often seen buying in technologies. The Spanish at one time had practically all the gold in the world, but had to spend that gold on buying goods from the British, Dutch, French, Germans, etc – i.e, those nations that could not afford to indulge in such violence and stupidity.
Hertz is increasing the size of its fleet and adding more mid to large-size luxury vehicles. Apparently the company thought consumers would want more small compact vehicles over the summer. Instead they got tons of complaints. He said rental customers doesn’t worry about mpg; they want to enjoy themselves.
Meanwhile, China is spending $221 billion of its $586 billion 2009 stimulus package on renewable energy and other clean technologies, and is poised to overtake Germany and Japan to become the world’s largest alternative energy producer. Another spur to development is a 2007 policy requiring large utilities to produce 3 percent of their power from renewable sources by 2010 and 8 percent by 2020, excluding hydroelectric (20 percent by 2020 is proposed in the Clean Energy and Security Act). China’s five-year plan that starts in 2011 will include even higher standards and subsidies to support clean energy development.
Though aspects of it may violate the WTO, China has a coherent industrial policy to capture global leadership, while US initiatives are fragmented. China recognized that the real economic development potential in renewable energy is in manufacturing, which comprises 70 -75 percent of the jobs in solar, and now has more than 100 solar companies that account for one-third of global solar component production.
Following European producers, China’s largest solar panel producer, Suntech Power Holdings, will soon build a plant in the United States. The company plans on selling panels at below cost in order to build market share. The New York Times reports that the factory, which will employ 75 to 150 workers, will be located in the Southwest. Other Chinese manufacturers will follow. States will no doubt compete in offering subsidies to attract these plants.
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Thanks, stacy you triggered an interesting debate. I could not join earlier, you see, because I had to teach (it seams to me that you havel some real professional bloggers at you site that respond full-time).
Empires rise and fall and there are common things that can be observed. But I do think with frances and others that this time it is really different, because the fall of the republic is a CONTROLLED DEMOLITION!
We tend to focus to much on nations (US falling, means China rising) You know it is about a bankers-ruling-class that has learned already for many times to think globally an internationally. They set up, together with the monarchs, several shadow governments like the Bilderbergers etc. to work out these secret global plans for almost a century (it is important to see who they ex-cluded…).
They have differences but they are very much unified in looting the worker/peasant class: it is us against them! Sure they will loot some “minor elite” but they will prevail pretty much over national entities like China, USA etc. There is an occult side to this story as well which is very interesting……..
(stacy, I liked the gold/oil south/north conquista story)
Alais, her nemesis arrives, like a thief in the night!
PLEASE PLEASE, gimme a break on the idiot Americans seek to burn their oil ad infinitum speeches. Need anyone be reminded of the Electric Cars that were CONFISCATED and DESTROYED in the U.S.?? Let’s cite some research around patents for non-fossil fuels, tires that never wear out, car chassis that don’t rust, the list goes on. Let’s quote the folks who have been close to the oil reserves in the U.S. that are CAPPED (National Security anyone??), oil reserves the U.S. guv’ment has. Let’s look at some new energy options AGAIN… cold fusion anyone??? This is nonsense. I’ll give you that 80-90% of U.S. population are dithering idiots and it is difficult to argue with the eugenics movement in many cases HOWEVER, I will not concede that there were no viable alternatives sought, found and in many cases implemented before they were thwarted, buried, bought or burned. Let’s remember who the true enemy is here please….. We are to trust this guv’ment with cap and trade legislation, the same one we trusted with Medicare, Medicaid, SS and bailouts???? We entrust them to lead us into a new lifestyle….do the research on their track record, show me their wins, with the documented research available, I’ll show you 100x’s their losses…..
@Mother earth
I’m listening to that cspan link. about 6 min. the lady says “10 of the 12 hottest years since 1880 occured between 1997 and 2008.”
That’s true, but avoids the fact that 1998 was the hottest year and the temperature has leveled off since then (http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/climatechange/policymakers/policy/slowdown.html). Which is important because the models did not predict this phenomenon.
I also think it’s a bit naive to think that government spokespeople wouldn’t have an agenda, just like oil company funded research. Especially considering the stupidity of the ‘enron solution’ (cap n’ trade), administered by goldman sachs, that’s currently on the table.
Technologies the Chinese are rumoured to have duplicated from the Europeans vs the Americans you might stereotypically think of:
ALLISS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_1iOqxcx5M
However, this may only amount to one as of yet contracted — but not built module for Cuba.
The Russians aka USSR never went in big for rotatable HRRS type antennas (ALLISS modules are a subclass of these antenna systems) — as real estate aka Crown Land was readily available.
Some countries like Australia could at best afford 3, if they tweaked around their defence spending some.
The US never went in big for the rotatable technology either, like the UK.
Why the UK fought the Falklands War, no BBC WS Relay Station to claim the land …
http://hireme.geek.nz/fk-SW-dbu.png
Yes, I do technically offer ALLISS consultation — but unless you have about 26m EUR Thales will not speak to you about these modules.
I believe the cheapest module is 15m EUR, but with cheap labour it may be possible to do one as cheap as 9m EUR.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eBk7vwivvQ
PS: One ALLISS module cost = RNZI funding costs for 12 years, including all Plant and Equipment…
Stacy: Guess you haven’t seen this yet: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zOXmJ4jd-8
Nor THIS one true REAL way for us to actually grow the f*** up as humanity and take care of our weakest sickest and most desperate:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7065205277695921912
PLEASE watch it Stacy I beg you..
I’d like to quote comedian Joe Rogan after you’ve watched Zeitgeist Addendum, where he says; “those who care more about animals or the environment [over the survival of our worst off fellow human BEINGS] are fucking traitors..”
Thanks for reading xx
Warming or cooling of a planet with an atmosphere is based on this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albedo
What planet in the solar system has one nearest to Earth?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uranus
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_of_Uranus
The total power radiated by Uranus in the far infrared (i.e. heat) part of the spectrum is 1.06 ± 0.08 times the solar energy absorbed in its atmosphere.
In fact, Uranus’ heat flux is only 0.042 ± 0.047 W/m², which is lower than the internal heat flux of Earth of about 0.075 W/m².
The lowest temperature recorded in Uranus’ tropopause is 49 K (−224 °C), making Uranus the coldest planet in the Solar System, colder than Neptune.
Determining the nature of this seasonal variation is difficult because good data on Uranus’ atmosphere has existed for less than 84 years, or one full Uranian year.
A number of discoveries have however been made. Photometry over the course of half a Uranian year (beginning in the 1950s) has shown regular variation in the brightness in two spectral bands, with maxima occurring at the solstices and minima occurring at the equinoxes.
A similar periodic variation, with maxima at the solstices, has been noted in microwave measurements of the deep troposphere begun in the 1960s.
Stratospheric temperature measurements beginning in 1970s also showed maximum values near 1986 solstice.
Illya Kuryakin would so love to see my total cost to US Government at all levels …
http://cbc.am/Total-cost-to-goverment.ods
Also in the MS XLS format too.
It is not possible for me to legally work in the American Imperialist totalitarian oblasts, and this is irreguardless of my citizenship status.
You know an empire has beyond totally collapsed when you see my IRS payoff horizon in this 3D spreadsheet.
My example, albeit not perfect — has implications for probably 3 to 5 million actual Americans that have had related sociological outcomes to mine — but do not possess another passport.
Hi Stacy,
Thanks for the interesting topics about the fall of the empires. For the people who read the history, dept and the bad management is the main cause of falling apart of the empires.
Funny that the empires on the verge of collapsing do crazy and stupid things. For example USA announced a manned journey to the moon recently.
But US Government is not alone in this aspect. In the last years of the Ottoman Empire a beautiful palace called “Dolmabahce Palace” has been built. (between 1843-1856) Interior was decorated with antiques, gold, jewellery etc. Check the link for a virtual tour of what is a museum right now.
Same time the country was in dept up to its eyeballs and the most of the people was hungry, jobless, you name it. So beginning of 1900s’ it was all over for the Ottoman Empire.
The way it looks, USA is heading the same direction.
http://www.dolmabahce.gov.tr/source.cms.docs/dolmabahce.gov.tr.ce/dolmabahce.html
Oil is the best discovery in the history of the world. It has improved life for billions of people. The computer you are using to write/read this posting was made possible by oil. The clothing you wear, phone you use and clothing you wear are all made possible by oil.
Man made global warming is a fraud and a hoax. The “solutions” cause starvation deaths and impoverishes people all around the world.
The carbon trading system was “invented” by Goldmann Sacks and Enron. Two companies which only have the best for people and the environment at heart. Anytime you can side with Goldmann it must feel good.
The US has been giving away technology to China for decades. Giving, selling, handing over in a FRENZY of stupiidty .. it can’t be they REALLY believed China would open up its markets in some great love affair with ‘free market’ ideology. Just recently Obama Admin. followed all the others since Nixon .. and loosened technolgy for guided missile systems to the Chinese. Maybe it’s a bribe ..please don’t dump our lousey phoney money onto the world’s market. Chinese students and businessmen often refer to the US as the ‘golden mountain.” It is a belief that what the US has developed, and US taxpayers often paid for in RanD research belongs to the world. Dattssss nice. Wish my I, my parents, grand parents, great grandparents had realized that as they paid through taxes, blood, sweat, tears to advance our system to the world which would make it their OWN in their OWN way and not according to the way Americans :”think’ the world works. Years ago when I was at university .. era of JFK … an old US Navy admiral remarked to some students that Americans always think strategically in poker terms, nations like Russians or Chinese think in terms of chess. It was TRUE in 1960 and it is stil true today. In the case of the US strategic planners, or utopians, or greedy power brokers regardless of politics … we assume that everyone thinks the way we do, that all men or humankind want the SAME things forgetting that a nation like CHINA is 5000 years old and has adopted more ‘isms’ than you can count to its own civilization. As it is, the US Chamber of Commerce, the Nixonian or Bushites, or Clintonians or Obamicans are arrogant enough to think capitalism .. at least Anglo-American adversairal capitalism is the world order. Guess we will have to learn the HARD way as we watch the US collapse and fall into the waiting arms of the new managerial bureaucratic snooper nanny superstate. This effort goes beyone partisan politics .. it is a WAY of thinking of the elite for at least a hundred and 20 years .. a refuedalization of the West before the Age of Enlightenment .. which I am SURE THEY believe was an aberration and injustice for ‘thems what knows better’ than the rest of us. The deconstruction of the US economy went in tandem with the deconstruction of the political system by both parties and no party .. as frankly, the world’s elites are only about one party .. theirs.