Comments on: Craig Murray: ‘Raped with broken bottles’ for Enron [UPDATED]

By: advocate001

advocate001 — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 21:42:39 +0000

We incinerated millions of people in WW2- innocent civilians. Eisenhower starved a froze 2million german POW’s. The american GI committed more rape than any other army- thats per the US army’s records. We dropped atomic bombs on innocent civilians. Yet we are surprised that some Uzbekis are torturing Uzbekis under Us command? Really? Read some history folks.

By: AM

AM — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 07:29:33 +0000

The guy has a point that the pipeline wasn’t the main reason; there were many reasons for staging 9/11 and invading afghanistan and iraq; a lot of profits to be made, the pipeline is just icing on the cake. the main reason was the philosophy/history of neo conservatives; yet how much says the word neo con if a fake liberal like obama does exactly the same. But these debunkers should be busy investigating all criminal activity of the government not attack those who are willing to stick their neck out (like that ambassador) and pretend as if war is justified. (killing over a million iraqi’s; but i guess debunking WMD’s/al CIAda in iraq isn’t as much fun as “debunking” a pipeline) As if i would waste my time on someone that has no idea how geo politics work, and ask him my questions.

By: Viriathus

Viriathus — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 22:28:22 +0000

This is just an appetizer. There will be more noxious courses to be served yet. All of them will be ignored by the Casino Gulag media, but kudos to TRN for trying. It might be enough to force the Mockingbird gatekeepers to mention it once, with dispassion, before being tossed down the memory hole. My apologies if I’m just stating the obvious.

By: klaos

klaos — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 20:56:07 +0000

I’ve got to side with Dailykos on this one (words I’d never thought I’d ever write).

‘The Israel Lobby’ by Mearsheimer and Walt makes a compelling case that invading Iraq was actually against the interests of Big Oil.

Afghanistan is about interfering with the Shanghai Co-op’s oil supply, isolating Iran, and the other black tar; black tar heroin. Afghanistan’s location is just far too strategically valuable to remain non-aligned the way it was under the Taliban.

The proposed route for the pipeline would logically follow the easiest terrain, and probably runs parallel to roads. Which would explain why the bases are on the route.

By: naomi

naomi — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 19:13:25 +0000

That’s why the internet is so feared by these people.

Yes, “they” put out disinformation, make 911 truth movement a joke, but eventually, people start thinking. Once they start thinking they are able through the internet to communicate. Uh oh……….

Think about the power of communication in regard to the Banking fraud, Goldman Sachs, wallstreet….etc., HUGE TURN AROUND IN HOW PEOPLE ARE UNDERSTANDING WHAT’S IS REALLY GOING ON.

Dangerous. Must be stopped. Can’t assassinate them all, makes them into cult personalities…..just dry up the communication line.

There you go. Now, scare the hell out of them. Remove all rights…….submit them to curfews, yada yada….

You’re right Mep. Once the lid is totally off, it’s over.

By: naomi

naomi — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 19:04:55 +0000

meant to say you’re.

By the way the Carlin piece on youtube regarding saving the planet is just sooooooo funny. Thanks to who ever posted it.

Laughter keeps you from going nuts.

By: naomi

naomi — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 19:03:08 +0000

Your right Mep.

By: Mep

Mep — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 18:44:13 +0000

To Murray’s theory about the use of torture, I would add that we likely severely tortured those with links to 9/11 (e.g., KSM) so that their brains would be so scrambled that nobody would ever be able to get accurate info. out of them re: who was giving them orders, where the funding was coming from, etc. Murrray says we were torturing people for false confessions so that al Qaeda appeared to be a mammoth group, and we could justify our war of terror. Terror/torture has historically been used to subdue populations; when they don’t slink away and decide to fight back, this also works to the benefit of the REAL terrorists, because it provokes more chaos and destabilization… hence justifying increased military and private militia presence.

The #1 reason that I fear a police state is because the truth about all of this is going to come to the surface faster than some people wish.

By: Mep

Mep — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 18:27:42 +0000

Jerome a Paris conveniently fails to mention that our bases in Afghanistan ended up right on the proposed pipeline route. (See 55:00 – 1:01 in video here. )

He completely leaves all of the geopolitics out of his analysis–including our previous funding/support of the Taliban, whom we had hoped would become more like “our” Saudi Arabian oil friends once the Taliban gained control of Kabul in 1996:

http://www.beyondleftright.com/topics/terrorism/1587

And he says nothing at all about 9/11–supposedly the reason we went to war. Seems to me that we have every reason to suspect that 9/11 was an intelligence operation. What was the goal of 9/11? I think the answer lies in what has happened since and who has benefited.

By: naomi

naomi — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 18:13:17 +0000

Jerome Paris is a fool.

@Fibon

Your comment about trying to remove oneself from the action set in motion by a Government that has acted in your name, is really terrifying.

Rather like the Iraqi people being blown up, tortured, maimed, poisioned by depleted uranium all because they are unlucky enough to have government doing business with the US and the deal turns sour.

When are the American people going to feel the terror of missles, helicopter fighters hovering over their homes? The hammer will come down.

Our government will be hiding in Paraguay. That’s why the Bush Crime Family’s compound is so huge…….also the land is sitting over one of the last largest natural water acqufiers in the world. Coincidence?