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	<title>Comments on: Craig Murray:  &#8216;Raped with broken bottles&#8217; for Enron [UPDATED]</title>
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		<title>By: advocate001</title>
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		<dc:creator>advocate001</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 21:42:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We incinerated millions of people in WW2- innocent civilians. Eisenhower starved a froze 2million german POW&#039;s. The american GI committed more rape than any other army- thats per the US army&#039;s records. We dropped atomic bombs on innocent civilians.  Yet we are surprised that some Uzbekis are torturing Uzbekis under Us command? Really? Read some history folks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We incinerated millions of people in WW2- innocent civilians. Eisenhower starved a froze 2million german POW&#8217;s. The american GI committed more rape than any other army- thats per the US army&#8217;s records. We dropped atomic bombs on innocent civilians.  Yet we are surprised that some Uzbekis are torturing Uzbekis under Us command? Really? Read some history folks.</p>
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		<title>By: AM</title>
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		<dc:creator>AM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 07:29:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The guy has a point that the pipeline wasn&#039;t the main reason; there were many reasons for staging 9/11 and invading afghanistan and iraq; a lot of profits to be made, the pipeline is just icing on the cake. the main reason was the philosophy/history of neo conservatives; yet how much says the word neo con if a fake liberal like obama does exactly the same. But these debunkers should be busy investigating all criminal activity of the government not attack those who are willing to stick their neck out (like that ambassador) and pretend as if war is justified.  (killing over a million iraqi&#039;s; but i guess debunking WMD&#039;s/al CIAda in iraq isn&#039;t as much fun as &quot;debunking&quot; a pipeline) As if i would waste my time on someone that has no idea how geo politics work, and ask him my questions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The guy has a point that the pipeline wasn&#8217;t the main reason; there were many reasons for staging 9/11 and invading afghanistan and iraq; a lot of profits to be made, the pipeline is just icing on the cake. the main reason was the philosophy/history of neo conservatives; yet how much says the word neo con if a fake liberal like obama does exactly the same. But these debunkers should be busy investigating all criminal activity of the government not attack those who are willing to stick their neck out (like that ambassador) and pretend as if war is justified.  (killing over a million iraqi&#8217;s; but i guess debunking WMD&#8217;s/al CIAda in iraq isn&#8217;t as much fun as &#8220;debunking&#8221; a pipeline) As if i would waste my time on someone that has no idea how geo politics work, and ask him my questions.</p>
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		<title>By: Viriathus</title>
		<link>http://maxkeiser.com/2009/11/05/craig-murray-raped-with-broken-bottles-for-enron/#comment-44009</link>
		<dc:creator>Viriathus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 22:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is just an appetizer. There will be more noxious courses to be served yet. All of them will be ignored by the Casino Gulag media, but kudos to TRN for trying. It might be enough to force the Mockingbird gatekeepers to mention it once, with dispassion, before being tossed down the memory hole. My apologies if I&#039;m just stating the obvious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is just an appetizer. There will be more noxious courses to be served yet. All of them will be ignored by the Casino Gulag media, but kudos to TRN for trying. It might be enough to force the Mockingbird gatekeepers to mention it once, with dispassion, before being tossed down the memory hole. My apologies if I&#8217;m just stating the obvious.</p>
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		<title>By: klaos</title>
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		<dc:creator>klaos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 20:56:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve got to side with Dailykos on this one (words I&#039;d never thought I&#039;d ever write).

&#039;The Israel Lobby&#039; by Mearsheimer and Walt makes a compelling case that invading Iraq was actually against the interests of Big Oil.  

Afghanistan is about interfering with the Shanghai Co-op&#039;s oil supply,  isolating Iran, and the &lt;i&gt;other&lt;/i&gt; black tar; black tar heroin.  Afghanistan&#039;s location is just far too strategically valuable to remain non-aligned the way it was under the Taliban.  

The proposed route for the pipeline would logically follow the easiest terrain, and probably runs parallel to roads.  Which would explain why the bases are on the route.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve got to side with Dailykos on this one (words I&#8217;d never thought I&#8217;d ever write).</p>
<p>&#8216;The Israel Lobby&#8217; by Mearsheimer and Walt makes a compelling case that invading Iraq was actually against the interests of Big Oil.  </p>
<p>Afghanistan is about interfering with the Shanghai Co-op&#8217;s oil supply,  isolating Iran, and the <i>other</i> black tar; black tar heroin.  Afghanistan&#8217;s location is just far too strategically valuable to remain non-aligned the way it was under the Taliban.  </p>
<p>The proposed route for the pipeline would logically follow the easiest terrain, and probably runs parallel to roads.  Which would explain why the bases are on the route.</p>
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		<title>By: naomi</title>
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		<dc:creator>naomi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 19:13:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s why the internet is so feared by these people.  

Yes, &quot;they&quot; put out disinformation, make 911 truth movement a joke, but eventually, people start thinking.  Once they start thinking they are able through the internet to communicate.  Uh oh..........

Think about the power of communication in regard to the Banking fraud, Goldman Sachs, wallstreet....etc.,  HUGE TURN AROUND IN HOW PEOPLE ARE UNDERSTANDING WHAT&#039;S IS REALLY GOING ON.  

Dangerous.  Must be stopped.  Can&#039;t assassinate them all, makes them into cult personalities.....just dry up the communication line. 

There you go.  Now, scare the hell out of them.  Remove all rights.......submit them to curfews, yada yada.... 

You&#039;re right Mep.  Once the lid is totally off, it&#039;s over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s why the internet is so feared by these people.  </p>
<p>Yes, &#8220;they&#8221; put out disinformation, make 911 truth movement a joke, but eventually, people start thinking.  Once they start thinking they are able through the internet to communicate.  Uh oh&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>Think about the power of communication in regard to the Banking fraud, Goldman Sachs, wallstreet&#8230;.etc.,  HUGE TURN AROUND IN HOW PEOPLE ARE UNDERSTANDING WHAT&#8217;S IS REALLY GOING ON.  </p>
<p>Dangerous.  Must be stopped.  Can&#8217;t assassinate them all, makes them into cult personalities&#8230;..just dry up the communication line. </p>
<p>There you go.  Now, scare the hell out of them.  Remove all rights&#8230;&#8230;.submit them to curfews, yada yada&#8230;. </p>
<p>You&#8217;re right Mep.  Once the lid is totally off, it&#8217;s over.</p>
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		<title>By: naomi</title>
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		<dc:creator>naomi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 19:04:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>meant to say you&#039;re.  

By the way the Carlin piece on youtube regarding saving the planet is just sooooooo funny.  Thanks to who ever posted it.  

Laughter keeps you from going nuts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>meant to say you&#8217;re.  </p>
<p>By the way the Carlin piece on youtube regarding saving the planet is just sooooooo funny.  Thanks to who ever posted it.  </p>
<p>Laughter keeps you from going nuts.</p>
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		<title>By: naomi</title>
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		<dc:creator>naomi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 19:03:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your right Mep.</description>
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		<title>By: Mep</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 18:44:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Murray&#039;s theory about the use of torture, I would add that we likely severely tortured those with links to 9/11 (e.g., KSM) so that their brains would be so scrambled that nobody would ever be able to get accurate info. out of them re: who was giving them orders, where the funding was coming from, etc. Murrray says we were torturing people for false confessions so that al Qaeda appeared to be a mammoth group, and we could justify our war &lt;b&gt; of &lt;/b&gt; terror.  Terror/torture has historically been used to subdue populations; when they don&#039;t slink away and decide to fight back, this also works to the benefit of the REAL terrorists, because it provokes more chaos and destabilization... hence justifying increased military and private militia presence. 

The #1 reason that I fear a police state is because  the truth about all of this is going to come to the surface faster than some people wish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Murray&#8217;s theory about the use of torture, I would add that we likely severely tortured those with links to 9/11 (e.g., KSM) so that their brains would be so scrambled that nobody would ever be able to get accurate info. out of them re: who was giving them orders, where the funding was coming from, etc. Murrray says we were torturing people for false confessions so that al Qaeda appeared to be a mammoth group, and we could justify our war <b> of </b> terror.  Terror/torture has historically been used to subdue populations; when they don&#8217;t slink away and decide to fight back, this also works to the benefit of the REAL terrorists, because it provokes more chaos and destabilization&#8230; hence justifying increased military and private militia presence. </p>
<p>The #1 reason that I fear a police state is because  the truth about all of this is going to come to the surface faster than some people wish.</p>
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		<title>By: Mep</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 18:27:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jerome a Paris conveniently fails to mention that our bases in Afghanistan ended up right on the proposed pipeline route. (See 55:00 - 1:01 in video &lt;a href=&quot;http://pakalert.wordpress.com/2009/10/14/video-the-untold-history-of-the-project-for-the-new-american-century/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. )

He completely leaves all of the geopolitics out of his analysis--including our previous funding/support of the Taliban, whom we had hoped would become more like &quot;our&quot; Saudi Arabian oil friends once the Taliban gained control of Kabul in 1996:

http://www.beyondleftright.com/topics/terrorism/1587

And he says nothing at all about 9/11--supposedly the reason we went to war.  Seems to me that we have every reason to suspect that &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO111A.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;9/11 was an intelligence operation&lt;/a&gt;. What was the goal of 9/11?  I think the answer lies in what has happened since and who has benefited.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jerome a Paris conveniently fails to mention that our bases in Afghanistan ended up right on the proposed pipeline route. (See 55:00 &#8211; 1:01 in video <a href="http://pakalert.wordpress.com/2009/10/14/video-the-untold-history-of-the-project-for-the-new-american-century/" rel="nofollow">here</a>. )</p>
<p>He completely leaves all of the geopolitics out of his analysis&#8211;including our previous funding/support of the Taliban, whom we had hoped would become more like &#8220;our&#8221; Saudi Arabian oil friends once the Taliban gained control of Kabul in 1996:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.beyondleftright.com/topics/terrorism/1587" rel="nofollow">http://www.beyondleftright.com/topics/terrorism/1587</a></p>
<p>And he says nothing at all about 9/11&#8211;supposedly the reason we went to war.  Seems to me that we have every reason to suspect that <a href="http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO111A.html" rel="nofollow">9/11 was an intelligence operation</a>. What was the goal of 9/11?  I think the answer lies in what has happened since and who has benefited.</p>
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		<title>By: naomi</title>
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		<dc:creator>naomi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 18:13:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jerome Paris is a fool.

@Fibon

Your comment about trying to remove oneself from the action set in motion by a Government that has acted in your name, is really terrifying.  

Rather like the Iraqi people being blown up, tortured, maimed, poisioned by depleted uranium all because they are unlucky enough to have government doing business with the US and the deal turns sour.  

When are the American people going to feel the terror of missles, helicopter fighters hovering over their homes?    The hammer will come down.  

Our government will be hiding in Paraguay.  That&#039;s why the Bush Crime Family&#039;s compound is so huge.......also the land is sitting over one of the last largest natural water acqufiers in the world.  Coincidence?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jerome Paris is a fool.</p>
<p>@Fibon</p>
<p>Your comment about trying to remove oneself from the action set in motion by a Government that has acted in your name, is really terrifying.  </p>
<p>Rather like the Iraqi people being blown up, tortured, maimed, poisioned by depleted uranium all because they are unlucky enough to have government doing business with the US and the deal turns sour.  </p>
<p>When are the American people going to feel the terror of missles, helicopter fighters hovering over their homes?    The hammer will come down.  </p>
<p>Our government will be hiding in Paraguay.  That&#8217;s why the Bush Crime Family&#8217;s compound is so huge&#8230;&#8230;.also the land is sitting over one of the last largest natural water acqufiers in the world.  Coincidence?</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 17:42:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So Jerome a Paris thinks that its just too much bother to go and get that worlds 4th largest gas reserve.   When have American and British oil and gas companies ever taken a pass on any large reserves anywhere?  The methodology by which such things are accomplished was described well in John Perkins book,  Confessions of an Economic Hit Man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Jerome a Paris thinks that its just too much bother to go and get that worlds 4th largest gas reserve.   When have American and British oil and gas companies ever taken a pass on any large reserves anywhere?  The methodology by which such things are accomplished was described well in John Perkins book,  Confessions of an Economic Hit Man.</p>
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		<title>By: norcalkid</title>
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		<dc:creator>norcalkid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 17:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blowback, another word for karma.   

Someone called the area &quot;Pipelineistan&quot;.  

I always thought it was about oil, nat. gas, and opium.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blowback, another word for karma.   </p>
<p>Someone called the area &#8220;Pipelineistan&#8221;.  </p>
<p>I always thought it was about oil, nat. gas, and opium.</p>
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		<title>By: naomi</title>
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		<dc:creator>naomi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 17:36:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, I&#039;d like to know what the take is of Mr. Paris on Daily Kos the author of the pipeline article has to say about the revelations of the UK ambassador to Uzbekistan.  

Often, people tend to look at these machinations from only one angle and over a short time from the &quot;market&#039;s point of view&quot; which Mr. Paris is one.

 Yes, Karzai is now the president of Afhganistan, his brother works for the CIA.  The election was contested, the other candidate dropped out (after he was made an offer he couln&#039;t refuse) 

Karzai met with the then Gov. GW Bush putting together a deal for the pipeline.   Bush was making a nice deal for Enron.

Next we have the stealing of the 2000 election, Bush is put into the office, he&#039;s ginning up for war before his sorry shoes hit the floor in the Whitehouse.  

Next, we have a false flag operation called 911.   Which helped demonize Islam and muslims.  We have torture programs that turn normal human beings into pure hatred.......now they have the scenario  the PNAC has been planning.  World dominance by the US.   (&quot;the Muslims are coming for us&quot;)  

Pipleline:  expensive, what is Goldsachs doing?   How much you need for a pipeline.....to keep the Golden Goose alive for the sake of the ruling elite?  

Real question is, it will take three countries to agree on the pipeline and not sabatoge it.  How they are going to do that, I don&#039;t know.  Just sayin.

We, the United States, through the CIA signed off on boiling people alive and being raped with broken bottles, children being tortured..........do we believe in Karma?   Fortuna,? Divine retribution?   

I&#039;m afraid the Western world is going to reap a whirlwind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, I&#8217;d like to know what the take is of Mr. Paris on Daily Kos the author of the pipeline article has to say about the revelations of the UK ambassador to Uzbekistan.  </p>
<p>Often, people tend to look at these machinations from only one angle and over a short time from the &#8220;market&#8217;s point of view&#8221; which Mr. Paris is one.</p>
<p> Yes, Karzai is now the president of Afhganistan, his brother works for the CIA.  The election was contested, the other candidate dropped out (after he was made an offer he couln&#8217;t refuse) </p>
<p>Karzai met with the then Gov. GW Bush putting together a deal for the pipeline.   Bush was making a nice deal for Enron.</p>
<p>Next we have the stealing of the 2000 election, Bush is put into the office, he&#8217;s ginning up for war before his sorry shoes hit the floor in the Whitehouse.  </p>
<p>Next, we have a false flag operation called 911.   Which helped demonize Islam and muslims.  We have torture programs that turn normal human beings into pure hatred&#8230;&#8230;.now they have the scenario  the PNAC has been planning.  World dominance by the US.   (&#8220;the Muslims are coming for us&#8221;)  </p>
<p>Pipleline:  expensive, what is Goldsachs doing?   How much you need for a pipeline&#8230;..to keep the Golden Goose alive for the sake of the ruling elite?  </p>
<p>Real question is, it will take three countries to agree on the pipeline and not sabatoge it.  How they are going to do that, I don&#8217;t know.  Just sayin.</p>
<p>We, the United States, through the CIA signed off on boiling people alive and being raped with broken bottles, children being tortured&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.do we believe in Karma?   Fortuna,? Divine retribution?   </p>
<p>I&#8217;m afraid the Western world is going to reap a whirlwind.</p>
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		<title>By: stacyherbert</title>
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		<dc:creator>stacyherbert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 16:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Crumpet Muncher - sure did!  Howdy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Crumpet Muncher &#8211; sure did!  Howdy!</p>
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