Comments on: [1076] The Truth About the Sea Shepherd, Oma Tuna & Somali Pirates

By: Carmen Azul

Carmen Azul — Sun, 15 Nov 2009 16:04:55 +0000

I wonder if things would be different if Ady Gil had bought a ship for the Somali fishermen before they discovered pirating.

By: frances snoot

frances snoot — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:25:12 +0000

MIssed this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ikr5_QpdQpY&NR=1

By: frances snoot

frances snoot — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:23:05 +0000

@Jeemobon:
I love South Park.

By: Jeemobon

Jeemobon — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:10:50 +0000

Well, I have no opinion about the whale wars thing having never seen it, but I found a couple clips here with the bits about paul watson.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dRbzjUNG2Y

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPwsND3vGNY

By: frances snoot

frances snoot — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:37:56 +0000

“(Remember, too, that only something like 34% of the US population believes in evolution.)”

Belief in evolution is a faith-based choice, a way of seeing, a perspective. One can make perfectly rational and excellent choices, pursue a livelihood, reproduce, and die without ever hearing the word ‘evolution’. One is not a better person, a better citizen, or a better member of ‘the club education’ for an adherence to a perspective. To say so is an attempt to marginalize perspectives that do not agree with one’s own personal biases.

By: frances snoot

frances snoot — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:30:35 +0000

What is meant by the term “magical thinking”? To me this sentence encapsulates the phraseology:
“We are leaving the era of fiat currency and entering the era of hard currency backed by gold.”

According to Wiki:
“In anthropology, psychology, and cognitive science, magical thinking is nonscientific causal reasoning that often includes such ideas as the ability of the mind to affect the physical world (see the philosophical problem of mental causation), and correlation mistaken for causation.”

Taking Wiki’s definition and extending it to economics, the statement that we are leaving one realm and entering another cannot be made by any means except by a wish to call into being the next realm through words or faith in words. The correlation of gold in a previous world where gold played a role as a medium of exchange should not be substituted for causation: there is not now any developed nation relying upon gold as a means of exchange. Indeed, the basis of the exchange system now in operation is reliant upon the leadership and regulatoin of a bank, the IMF/BIS/WorldBank, which uses a currency basket, the sdr, as its basic reserve unit. There is no causal indication presently in occurrence which would substantially back the belief that the era ending will be followed by gold-backed hard currency because the event *worldwide abandonment of fiat for gold-backed exchange* has not taken place and has never taken place unto this date in time.

It is not errant to facilitate belief through the reliance on magical thinking, but one must remain firmly in the realm of religion and not export a hope to others that reality may bend to suit one’s passion or dementia.

Unless Max is a wizard, the hope for a gold-backed substance to currency exchange in future must needs remain at present a hope, and nothing more.

By: david

david — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:04:09 +0000

You would think in this day and age that the Japs would have gotten around to ‘farming’ whales, a Japanese friend of mine who got married had as part of the meal a whales penis which all the guests got stuck into, they regard them sort of like swimming cows, I eat animals (particularly fond of lamb) who am I to disagree.

By: suanna

suanna — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 22:52:33 +0000

@max. If the gold price reflected it`s true value today the gold mining industry would have enough of it`s profits available for investing in the moral environmental clean up criteria regulated by the gold mining industry .
But this is not the case as we all well know. The availability of unlimited dollars and manipulation by central banks has effectively stopped the price discovery of gold.
When a company ( gold mining / producer ) has a product that sells at below REAL value they cut corners. The first area of the mining business to be CUT is the environmental clean up ( as well as R & D in this area ) as regulators can be encouraged to turn a blind eye.
So, what have we got ? An industry ,that has to realise a profit ,with the true value of it`s product being suppressed . Hence limited resources going into being ecologically sensible.
If ( and when ) true price discovery materialises, the industry will not be vilified as a polluter of the environment but a environmentally sensible contributor to our planet.
Also as gold becomes the true monetary standard this unlimited printing of fiat currencies will cease and the true price of…. well……everything will be reflected in the things we consume , thus slowing down the over-consumption of the global consumer as prices would reflect the availability of all products ( refer to whale and tuna discussion )
Anyway I just don`t see this ( suppression ) ending any time soon

Enjoy the show and vids,

Cheers

By: Mep

Mep — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:07:38 +0000

I know that I’m a pain in the ass . . . just have to say that I think the “magical thinking” exists, in part, because of the level of inequality we have in this “rich” country of ours. Increasing inequality generally coincides with increased political division. And as we see, EVERYTHING has become political in the US. If one party takes one stance, then the other automatically assumes the other, and the loudest voices prevail (like in ancient Sparta). Those at the top, of course, want to hold onto their power and their wealth, and the least educated amongst us are precisely those who believe most in the myths spun by the corporations. From what I can see, the US is #1 when it comes to corporate PR firms, think tanks, etc. finding new and improved ways to dictate the terms of debate and brainwash the public. And these days, public distrust of government and corporations only HELPS the corporations, because every potential reform is understandably seen as another way to hoodwink and rob the public.

(Remember, too, that only something like 34% of the US population believes in evolution.)

By: Chris

Chris — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:58:07 +0000

M&S, When I put on my Sea Shepherd Conservation Society shirt this morning I had no idea I’d get to hear them covered on your show today. Thanks. I’m excited about the new ship also. That’s right it can travel fast enough to catch the “hunter” ships, which SSCS has been unable to do previously. They just had to go after the slaughterhouse ship Nisshin Maru.

Like Karmabanque, Watson is trying to destroy Japanese whaling via economics. Sending a fleet of ~8 whaling ships to Antarctica costs something like $1 million per week. By depriving the whalers of 50% + of their catch, they can hopefully bankrupt the gov’t backed company supporting the whaling.