Morning Golden Jibber Jabber

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  1. I use technical analysis to identify trends.

    My long term USD indicator has been giving BULLISH warnings for a while and I am expecting a USD rally.

    My indicators can identify trend changes before they occur.

    They warned me of an impending market crash back in early *2007*

    The VIX continues to give bullish warnings as well.

    The primary trend for stocks remains down, is the current bear market rally ending ?

  2. @Will

    The Daily Bell article re: the destruction of civil liberties

    This describes exactly what I have been seeing, feeling and dreading for months.

    There is an obvious mad rush to pass through massive illegitimate mandates at unprecedented speed. This is a huge Warning sign….Red Flags everywhere! The target date appears to 2010.

    In addition, legislation and mandates that are written in convoluted, long legalese, which makes it difficult to impossible for the average person to sift through, is another sign that something wicked this way comes…..and soon if we don’t rise up.

    I do not believe as Mother that this is in anyway a benevolent NWO to promote a world group hug or in anyway to benefit the people. This is a massive attempt at a power/ wealth grab never before seen.

  3. PS: Hey Aunt Stacy:

    Was that you walking with your back to the camera with Uncle Mad Max in the hotel in Italy in the CIA conviction video?

    By the camera angle you looked a foot taller than Uncle Max in those black boots…

    You are either going to have to go with flats… or we need to get Uncle Mad Max some lifts for Christmas. I know a guy, he’s whole sale…

  4. Uncle Mad Max is solid in Gold!

    Hey Uncle “Daddy Warbucks” Mad Max:

    Mail me a Krugerrand for Christmas.

    Love your nephew, PI.

  5. TSGordon – Maps

    Links, post links please!

    Here’s one of my favorites:

    http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/index2.php

    Click on the little widgets for info on what’s happening.

  6. Jeroen Nouwens

    Hurrah!

  7. Where will they get all the $ for this?

    Chanos says dump munis as distress mounts and ratings attacked

    It’s not just the recession, which has reduced tax receipts. Rather, he says the poor economy “is masking real problems in municipal cost structures.” The big problem, he says, is “the platinum-plated health-care and retirement benefits” given to state and local workers. “It’s all coming home to roost” as boomers start to retire.

    http://www.creditwritedowns.com/2009/11/chanos-says-dump-munis-as-distress-mounts-and-ratings-attacked.html

  8. @max power
    dustbins… classic!

  9. Note to all GOLDMAN Employees:

    With the purchase of your New $100.M. private Yacht, we will be placing 1 free Kilo of GOLD in the ballast ! …ditto those interested buying a full-priced (LOL) flat in central London, or Hong Kong!

  10. @Will: That article about anti-democratic conditions in Europe is profound–if just because so few Americans are even aware of any potential conflict in the Main.

    “(This) could end in tears, or worse.” -Like, duh, dude!

    One of my favorite graphics of late is a map that shows flames in various parts of france where riots have broken out. Soon, you could paint a fairly accurate picture of Modern England by pulling plates out of Charles Dickens books, and simply adding video CAMERAS to each of the street views.

    Still, as long as the NYT has a great ‘ARTS’ -section, and plenty of haute couture, who cares?

  11. “Dollar drops against (other) currency (ies)” -that’s about all the news you are likely to see, with the UDS loosing an average of 12% over the past 45 days, in Central America. (For a year it’s been fetching about 583 Colones):
    _ _ _

    Dollar Drops Almost ¢9 Colones Overnight

    The Us dollar dropped almost ¢9 colones overnight, dropping to ¢554.38 for the buy and ¢563.23 for the sell against the Costa Rican Colon. The exchange rate on Tuesday was ¢564.39 and ¢573.03, respectively, dropping ¢8.64 colones overnight, as published by the Banco Central de Costa Rica (BCCR).

    It was evident before the banks closed for business on Tuesday that a sharp drop was coming overnight, when some banks, like Scotiabank, were posting their rates at ¢554 for the buy and ¢562 for the sell.

    The dollar has dropped more than ¢30 colones since the middle of September, when the buy was ¢585.87 and sell ¢595.59 on September 18.

    The BCCR (Central Bank) says the changes are based on supply and demand, based on the excess or lack of dollars in the market.

    Today’s exchange rate is slight above the rate on November 11, 2008, when the buy was ¢551.18 and the sell ¢560.98.

    Experts say that the fall could continue as more dollars in the market place and lower demand means a drop in price. Other experts say that this could also be a sign of a permanent condition, while others say that there could be greater volatility in the coming weeks that in the past eight months.

  12. A Rock-Solid Case for Gold Reserves

    By Fabrice Taylor
    The Globe and Mail, Toronto
    Wednesday, November 11, 2009

    http://tinyurl.com/yddvb3c

  13. Sociopolitical pressure is building everywhere. Here are some more ominous but ignored signs from the EU (excerpts). At some point gold will reflect this by popping quickly even higher.

    http://www.thedailybell.com/586/EU-Attacks-British-Civil-Liberties.html

    Free-Market Analysis: Of all the things going on in the world today, the steady encroachment on civil liberties by the European Union is one of the most puzzling to decipher. It would be a little easier to understand if it were happening pre-Internet. But in fact it is happening in plain view of the world, especially the Western world – especially America – because the Internet is cataloguing every bit of the profoundly anti-democratic changes that are being made…At every level, we would argue, the EU is moving too fast and without proper care. It is most surprising. It illustrates, we believe, the compulsion the monetary elite seems to feel to consolidate gains in wealth and power in a post-Internet world. This is not an indication of strength, in our opinion.

    Those leading the EU are taking a very big gamble. No sociopolitical power of this size has ever been erected so swiftly, absent violence. And it is taking place in a Europe that seems tranquil on the surface but is actually a seething hotbed of tribal loyalties and ancient cultures that go back in some cases to nearly the Stone Age. Without an animating dominant social theme in place, with the Internet cataloguing virtually every aspect of the EU’s illegitimate actions, we begin to get a feeling that the elite steering the ship has left it on autopilot. There is no plan B. Just consolidate with maximum haste. Unless this course is modified, we have to believe this latest experiment in a greater Europe will end in tears, and worse.

  14. Acts of war which are largely unnoticed right now because of all the other more amusing circuses.

    http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/afp/091111/world/mideast_conflict_israel_iran_weapons_2

    JERUSALEM (AFP) – Israel released documents and pictures on Wednesday which it said provided proof that a massive arms shipment seized at sea last week came from Iran.

    Israeli commandos intercepted the Antigua-flagged “Francop” near the coast of Cyprus, claiming it was taking the weapons to Syria en route to the Lebanese Hezbollah militia….”Hidden among the dozens of other containers on board, and disguised as civilian goods, the ship contained a consignment of 36 shipping containers with 500 tones of arms en route via Syria to the Hezbollah terrorist organisation in Lebanon,” the army and foreign ministry said in a statement. “A total of about 9,000 mortar bombs of different types were seized, along with about 3,000 Katyusha artillery rockets, 3,000 recoilless gun shells, 20,000 grenades and over half a million rounds of small arms ammunition,” the statement said….Among the weapons seized were 2,124 Iranian-made 107mm artillery rockets and thousands of AZ111-A2 fuses manufactured only in Iran, the statement said.

  15. http://www.cnbc.com/id/33850971

    China Hints at Yuan’s Departure From Dollar Peg
    Published: Wednesday, 11 Nov 2009 | 7:53 AM ET

    China sent its clearest signal yet that it was ready to allow yuan appreciation after an 18-month hiatus, saying on Wednesday it would consider major currencies, not just the dollar, in guiding the exchange rate.

    In its third-quarter monetary policy report, the People’s Bank of China departed from well-worn language on keeping the yuan “basically stable at a reasonable and balanced level.” It hinted instead at a shift from an effective dollar peg that has been in place since the middle of last year.

    “Following the principles of initiative, controllability and gradualism, with reference to international capital flows and changes in major currencies, we will improve the yuan exchange rate formation mechanism,” the central bank said in a 46-page monetary policy report.

    The comments, published just days before a visit to Shanghai and Beijing by U.S. President Barack Obama, set out the possibility of a return to exchange rate appreciation that began with a landmark July 2005 revaluation.

  16. The following op-ed is from the Fiji Times online this morning. It’s a good summary argument for owning gold, which many people who don’t know anything about it need to hear. Link to entire article & excerpts below.

    http://www.fijitimes.com/story.aspx?id=133347

    Gold glitters again
    T.K. JAYARAMAN November 11, 2009

    The American dollar is not dazzling any more. The euro is yet to shine ever since its birth ten years ago. On Wednesday, November 4, gold hit a high at US$ 1,097.25 an ounce. No doubt, the spurt in price was attributed to the sale of 200 tonnes of gold out of the planned figure of 403 tonnes to Reserve Bank of India by the International Monetary Fund (IMF).

    Is gold a better substitute for holding your money? Which is the reserve currency for more fortunate countries like China with export surpluses for putting away their foreign exchange earnings?

    Freedom of choice

    Choice of reserve currency, metals or even holding oil reserves anticipating future gains due to inflation is part of economic freedom. Alan Greenspan, a former chairman of the US central bank did not hide his preference, when he noted “An almost hysterical antagonism toward the gold standard is one issue which unites persons of all persuasions. They seem to sense… that gold and economic freedom are inseparable.”

    So switching on to gold, ditching the American dollar in bad times is also part of the freedom of choice.

    That made the yellow metal glitter again early this month. The price of gold has been climbing for last six months. The highest peak was recorded at US 2,350 an ounce in 1980, when the world was reeling under inflation.

    The modern theory of asset demand comes into play. Relative returns and risk are some important aspects of the theory. Viewed in the light of these, following are the reasons for the rise in price of gold.

    The currently prevailing low interest rates on US dollar deposits and rising budget deficit in the US have made holding dollars less attractive. The big institutional holders of US dollars, such as hedge funds now look to gold as investment. Much of the world is in the grip of deflation. What is now affecting markets is speculation, thriving under uncertainties. When speculation is rife, investors look to durable assets. Gold has been the evergreen favourite among all assets for hedging against inflation and volatility in prices.

    David Ricardo, the first among the most ardent advocates of free trade, knew the value of gold in his times, the 19th century, much more than anybody else. He wrote: “Gold, though of little use compared with air or water, will exchange for a great quantity of other goods”.

    Associate Professor Jayaraman teaches economics at the University of the South Pacific. Views expressed are his own and do not represent those of USP.

  17. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703932904574511942676683258.html#articleTabs%3Darticle

    The Wall Street Journal sat down with Mr. Ruppert to discuss oil, Wall Street and the “imminent collapse of human industrialized civilization…”

  18. US economic statistics that cannot be counterfitted, usable as alternate ways of tracking an economy:

    Families liquidated due to debt, re — mass killings + suicide
    – Coupled with conditions of debt and unemployment

    The special debt conditions in the US make this a very good measure, and one that can be tracked back as far as 50 years. I assume the FBI has some nationwide stats on this dating back to 1955.

    I am not being unrealistic, as there are other mechanisms that have been or are used:

    Sales of men’s underwear — used by Buffet and others

    What people are throwing away in public dustbins, a favourite of Tojo and like Generals from the Empire of Japan during WWII.

  19. Many trillions of them so I hear?

  20. @stacyherbert

    Maybe this is the reason for gold spike today?

    Oil slides below $79 on mixed China data http://tinyurl.com/y9csfc7

  21. @Mep

    Nighty night and sweet dreams…..

    @The Man from Glad

    ’bout: Willen Buiter

    Indeed Gold has many Industrial use. In every computer there is gold for instance and in Germany you’ve got a company which profitably gets it out again. Think about the dental gold or the gold plugs for high end audio etc…

    Buiter seems to be a extremist FIAT currency believer and calls the Intristique value of gold “a believe”? That’s what extremist usually do cause there “God” is always better.

    I think Willem Buiter believe system has been shattered and it’s at that point people get angry and that’s good for him cause it would mean he’s on the right track of acknowledging of what’s realy going on here. He should realize that the dollar officially has been declared “Toast” and come to grip with it.

    So, come on Willem get yourself together and illuminate us again with some well founded sane reasoning again. Nobody is perfect. We don’t talk about the gold anymore we’ll just buy it.

  22. =====
    Justice Dept. Asked For News Site’s Visitor Lists
    http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/11/09/taking_liberties/entry5595506.shtml?tag=mncol;txt
    =====

    Assuming you have no sensitive internal files, most reasonably well trafficked websites should give some details of visitor origins or visitor patterns.

    Websites that are already open in this way attract less suspicion as well as make people wanting to put ads on the site more aware of its utility to them overall.

  23. Have to go to bed. Happy St. Martin’s Day to all who are lucky enough to celebrate it!

  24. Thanks, Youri. I didn’t know if it sold yet. That Daily Show segment was hilarious.

  25. Yawn.
    Zzzzzzz.
    Tell me when it is 4096 NZD.

  26. @Mep

    Prior to assuming his post with the Obama Administration, according to records Geithner and his wife purchased a five bedroom house near leafy Larchmont for $1.602 million in 2004, and in 2009 he tried to sell his home for $1.635 million after the U.S. real estate market collapse. After being on the market for months the price of the home was reduced to $1.575 million.

    After further lack of interest the home was rented for $7,500 On May 21, 2009 according to Scott Stiefrater of Stiefrater Real Estate and Debbie Meiliken of Keller Williams Realty, New York.

    The Jon Stewart Show recently created a segment examining the financial acumen of Timothy Geithner for actually asking more than he paid for the house in a depressed real estate market. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_Geithner

  27. @youri . yes ,that is what i like about Greece too. that Homeric guest friendship thing is really big throughout the Mediterranean and Middle East in general. you have to be very careful before complimenting someone . i have some local friends from Iraq if you say that you ‘like the watch that they are wearing ‘ ,they will simply take it off and give it to you, no matter how expensive it is, no matter how little money they earn . .the polite thing do in that case in just to say..” that it looks better on you my friend.,Thankyou.” it is disgraceful what has happened too so many people in Middle East in the name of ‘war on so called terror.’ we have much to learn from these Highly Civilized and Truly Cultured People. no matter how little money these people earn they manage to send some home every month, for years at a time . they seem to have some of the best values that we have lost.

  28. @ Phil – You’re welcome. The whole media-being-fired thing was pretty odd, though. Wonder what that was all about?

  29. @Mep ..Thx .. I realized that after reading the same comments.

  30. Richmond Federal Reserve President Jeffrey Lacker told CNBC that the risk of deflation had diminished substantially, but cautioned the nation could see a growing risk of inflation over the next few years.

    “As the economy proceeds, maybe not next year, we could see could see a growing risk of significant increases in inflation.”

    Fed’s Lacker says U.S. in “good place” with inflation: report http://tinyurl.com/yf5vvyx

  31. Gold is going to 1275 but in two steps most likely, unless there is an end of year meltdown in US equities. The Fed is obviously creating an asset bubble in stocks through the Wall Street banks. Sheila Bair of the FDIC expressed a similar concern yesterday, so it might not so easily be written off as a conspiracy theory. They have stuffed the banks with liquidity, provided a guaranteed payment on excess reserves, and provided Goldman Sachs the gambling bank with no loans or depositors as a role model. How anyone can believe they are achieving a near perfect trading record in a ‘free market’ is beyond me.

    http://jessescrossroadscafe.blogspot.com/2009/11/long-term-gold-chart.html

  32. @ Phil – commenters on that video said that it’s years-old news that those countries have stopped accepting dollars and were preferring euros. (flashbacks of Max’s “death of the dollar” video come to mind–especially the scene with the cabbie talking about the sick dollar.)

  33. @doomandbloom

    A) If I read the same article that Stacy mentioned about demand destruction, it mentioned that, yes, US exports HAVE increased, but imports are declining b/c people here aren’t buying.

    B) We care that other countries think that we care about them.

  34. @stacyherbert

    Maybe it does Stace, we’ll see ….

    @Phil

    That’s why I like Greece people cause they show you their not about money but about human live. If I miss 10 cents here in Holland they led you unload your shoppery not in Greece or Turkey for that matter.

  35. Man tries to sell $1100 one ounce gold coin for $50; no takers

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gk5aRIz17fk

  36. Speaking of Geithner, does anyone know if he sold is house yet?

  37. questions….

    a. doesnt US want a weak $…to improve exports. I read yest that exports have increased significantly from the US.

    b. a strong $ is required by other countries who hold $ denominated debt…but does the US really care about other countries?

  38. @ Stacy – Geithner had affirmed a lot. Let’s see if his actions track his words.

    @ PatrickEA – It makes sense in the context of the book where people were purposely kept stupid, poor, and overworked in order to maintain the hierarchical class system.

  39. @stacy

    Quick wheres my iphone, Geithners lying, gotta zap him!!

  40. This could be cause of gold’s morning rally

    Geithner Affirms Strong Dollar Policy

    http://bit.ly/3cHaI0

  41. In a book about Napleon in Egypt (funny, recommended) I read that:

    “September 2nd 1792 The crowd paraded the breast and other parts of Princesse de Lamballe on pikes through the streets of Paris”

    More gory details..

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marie-Louise,_princesse_de_Lamballe

    Lets see what happens to Obama and Geithner..

  42. @Youri – perhaps the move to $1117 during Asian day signals China trying to catch up to India . . .

  43. Being too comfortable does not make you intelligent. My own personal experience shows the opposite in fact.

  44. @ Danny – For fun, demand destruction + disaster capitalism rolled up in one Orwell paragraph:

    The essential act of war is destruction, not necessarily of human lives, but of the products of human labor. War is a way of shattering to pieces, or pouring into the stratosphere, or sinking into the depths of the sea, materials which might otherwise be used to make the masses too comfortable, and hence, in the long run, too intelligent.

    Elsewhere: The primary aim of modern warfare is to use up the products of the machine without raising the general standard of living.

  45. Gold rallies to record high as dollar slips ( Reuters) Nov. 11 http://tinyurl.com/ydsexvt

  46. PS@Nov. 10th. …

    Sounds like he says Greece, Bulgaria, Armenia … accepting only Euros from what I understand.

  47. Nov. 10th. – **Breaking** US Dollar Not Being Accepted Overseas & MSM Shutting Down

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0ZX_fKnfoI&feature=sub

    Bad audio … no MSM backing AFAIK !

  48. @Mike2liverpool – morning! what’s sterling doing this morning? i’m hoping it’s at parity with euro by mid December . . . please, please, please

  49. “Demand destruction” has become a priority not only to mitigate Peak Oil but also to mitigate global warming. The United States, with 5% of the world’s people, consumes (wastes) 25% of the world’s energy. How do you destroy demand? You collapse the economy. Homeless, unemployed “refugees” (what a cold, depersonalizing term) don’t buy gas, take trips, fly on airplanes or buy consumer goods (made with energy and requiring energy to operate). They don’t use air conditioning because they can’t afford it. They are the embodiment of Henry Kissinger’s infamous term “useless eaters,” a phrase from the Nazi vocabulary. If energy demand destruction, as acknowledged by the Bilderbergers and the CFR, is a priority, then the only – I repeat only – beast that must be tamed is the United States.” (Mike Ruppert, 2005)

  50. Mike2liverpool

    Morning Gang
    Mike/Liverpool

  51. @Danny – this past weekend on financialsense news hour they mentioned demand destruction; while demand is down in US, it’s up by even more in the developing world . . .

  52. @y’all

    Heard two terms last night, demand destruction (in relation to oil/peak oil) and disaster capitalism.

    Discuss….

  53. What did I say? Gold’s going up like crazy! 1,117!

  54. Gold batteling for 1,115 right now!

    Live Gold (JAVA): http://www.goldprice.org/live-gold-price.html

  55. Willem Buiter (London School of Economics, advisor to the BoE) Apparently Does Not LIke Gold, and Why

    “I suspect that commodities such as oil and gold are giving many western economists with official ties to government monetary committees a stomach ache these days.”

    http://jessescrossroadscafe.blogspot.com/2009/11/unberable-lightness-of-thinking-like.html

  56. @Hawkeye – thanks for that link! Everyone should watch the video as it really explains the big problem with High Frequency Trading. As Max developed the virtual specialist technology which involves market making, I will get him to address this video in Saturday’s Truth About Markets. And perhaps even here today after we record OTE.

  57. Credit card issuer Advanta files for bankruptcy http://tinyurl.com/y9hdjbe

  58. Timmy is talking out of his little neck hairs again by saying he supports a strong dollar while exactly the opposite is happening also in his politics naimly; not cutting any deficits by sustaining the costly stimulus and war budgets. Army effords where even increased in Afghanistan!?

    You can’t have it both ways Timmy!

    Geithner: wants strong dollar, will tackle deficit http://tinyurl.com/yjr8jhp

  59. World Bank President Robert Zoellick said on Wednesday that the U.S. dollar’s role as a reserve currency was “relatively secure”, but the Chinese yuan will provide an alternative over time.

    “Over the next 10-15 years, you will firstly see renminbi to be internationalised and provide an alternative,” he said at a World Bank conference in Singapore.

    Zoellick also said the U.S. should not be complacent about the dollar.

    World Bank: yuan to become alternative reserve currency http://tinyurl.com/ykun97q

  60. A spokesperson of the dutch goldbank http://www.hbu.nl/ says gold will go over $1250 soon..

  61. U.S. policymakers, therefore, must recognize that large external deficits, the dominance of the dollar, and the large capital inflows that necessarily accompany deficits and currency dominance are no longer in the United States’ national interest.

    CFR forecasts declining dollar and pushes for a global currency system http://tinyurl.com/yg269pd

  62. @ Stacy

    Not had time to properly view these yet (I have a day job y’know!), but does this mean that fringes of the MSM are picking up on the dark underbelly of HTF?

    http://www.ft.com/cms/4683c1ac-71fd-11de-b7e1-00144feabdc0.html

  63. U.S. dollar depreciation orderly so far: Fed’s Fisher http://tinyurl.com/yedosy3

  64. Gold going parabolic can only mean one thing.. Timmay has wet his pants!

  65. China Welcomes Geithner & Obama

    New stats out this AM show that China will “Bury Them.”

    No apoligies to Nikita Kruchev for stealing his line.

  66. WOAH!

    .. Tim calling Ben.. “Mission success”

  67. Only have a small silver position but I feel it in my bones that today is

    SILVER’S DAY

  68. Indy Media, a news site in US, received a grand jury subpoena from the US Justice Department to provide details of all readers of their site on a certain day.
    Today in the US, tomorrow knocking on your door.
    Be careful what you write
    http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/11/09/taking_liberties/entry5595506.shtml?tag=mncol;txt

  69. I have a serious question (drink your coffee first):

    With the difference in price between the Comex and Hong Kong and increasing tensions in a real market for gold, will the price benchmark of the Comex break? Ebay for instance is a free market, its prices are higher, After Brent Crude will the US based standard be abandoned?

  70. Stacy

    Your HTML doesn’t work, but as gold is making new highs, just put in a new chart.

    HA ! ! ! ! !

  71. @Stacy

    You post looks a bit htmly, was that your intention? ;-)

  72. Gold doth nay rust.