Mr. Turk says [paraphrasing] the US has to move from an economy of consumption and debt to one of production and savings. Look at the US tax code..what is taxed, production [income] or consumption [debt]? You can deduct your mortgage interest but anytime you produce something for profit you are taxed. The tax code + the federal reserve fiat currency coup are designed to enslave a society into debt slavery. Throw out the income tax, replace it with a value added consumption tax, go to a currency system which is not fractional reserve based and you have your utopia. Well….at least better than this.
excellent OTE episode again. thanks Max and Stacy.
yes. i read some of that article on blankfien thinking he’s doing gods work earlier this week. it gives you a bit of insight into the mentality of the parasitic scum that is goldman sachs and it dosn’t surprise me that they abandoned the kittens.
Related to the article that max posted, on Wednesday, November 11, 2009, a new fund of junior gold mining shares began trading called Junior Gold Miners ETF (GDXJ) The basic idea is that smaller companies tend to be more volatile than larger ones, and therefore GDXJ will usually experience greater percentage moves in both directions than GDX. I know that max, and manyof the readers of this site are not fans of etfs, but as the article states, I think accurately, etfs is where the money will flow when the gold market goes parabolic.
Blatant lies:
“Although antiviral medications are most effective when used within 48 hours after symptoms start, Dr. Shindo said the drugs should be given even after that if a person is very sick.”
“In Ukraine, it appeared to take about two weeks from the time the first deaths were reported in October for the authorities to link them to the H1N1 flu.”
The WHO is disappointed that Ukranian ‘protocol’ meant a reduction in their ability to push Tamiflu:
“The new guidelines say that anyone with flu-like symptoms for three days, along with people in several high-risk groups — pregnant women, children under 2 and people with underlying respiratory problems — should not wait for laboratory tests to confirm the diagnosis but should be treated right away with drugs like Tamiflu.
Although Tamiflu had been stockpiled, protocol required doctors to prove a patient had H1N1 with laboratory testing before prescribing the medicine, said Nadezhda Rudnitskaya, the chief of pulmonology at Lviv Medical University.”
HINIA/swine/whatever is become resistant to Tamiflu, and (IMHO) most probably always was because of the HINIa component. The WHO wants to pedal Roche drugs without restrictions.
@Mep – depends on what the dollar does and whether or not all currencies are tumbling, what’s happening in the global market, etc; and even if it hits $8000 USD, then it might not be hitting say 5000 EUR if it is just a dollar phenomena; will talk about this on one of our shows in next few days
@ bonn – Just finished watching, myself. I had no idea that there was such a thing as vegetable libel laws (or cloned meat). Monsanto needs to be taken down. That’s all there is to that. Unfortunately, though, Mr. Obama is on the side of A href=”http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_19436.cfm”>complete Monsanto domination.
Sustainable agriculture should definitely be pursued as a strategy for economic recovery. We need more people being able to make a living growing good food. The farmer I buy from wants to expand a little bit to meet the demand of new customers, but he said the bank loan was too much of a burden. Seems that farmers don’t even consider asking customers to invest in their farms. That’s an idea I’d like to see catch on. Cut out the banks, the factory farms, the chemical companies, and the seed Nazis.
@ Max – What’s your guesstimate for a high? Do you think that 8,000 is feasible?
@ Mep
What i saw was enough though
Man 4 Large Corperations Running the Whole Show
Then You have Monsanto.
and the Technology front
if you Check the OEM- Original Equipment Manuf.
there are Just Probably 3 to 5
Nokia and LG and 2 other Cellphone MAnufacturers RODFL Housed in the same Building
These Elites are Like Viruses they get into every facet of your Life
I’m still confused about the swine flu. The US has reportedly had 20 million swine flu cases already; 4,000 people have died. However, my fiance was told by a student of his–who had been treated for swine flu–that they’re really not even testing for swine flu b/c it’s so expensive to run the tests. So I wonder if docs are just calling regular flu swine flu if it seems like a more severe case of the regular flu?
@ bonn – Good for you. Don’t know if I could give up meat entirely, but I’ve cut way back and get my meat now from a local organic farmer.
I didn’t realize when I posted the link to the doc. that there is a bandwidth limit and that once its hit, you have to wait a certain time to finish watching . . . bummer.
“The existence of even a single case of pneumonic plague in a non-endemic area
should raise suspicion of an act of bioterrorism and requires further investigation.”
Either the stories are lies or the stories are true but they are lying about the causitive agent.
I think I first gonna wait for more info on the Ukrain pandemic and wi’ll read your stuff with it later.
I think my first hunch was right that it wasn’t simply the relative harmless H1N1 virus also because no further harmfull mutations were reported and that in fact the pandemic already had reached it’s peak in October or so I believe.
All we know from the Ukrain case is that it probably is a Mixed types of parainfluenza and influenza A/N1N1, that’s all, no further specifics.
Well I was just concerned that some of you veggies might end up like Hitler It seems It makes you very agressive not eating meat at least I get very agressive without meat.
You must realise that N1H1 or A/N1N1 is just a global type name with many variations. Spanish flu was a virulent and deadly influenza A virus strain of subtype H1N1 indeed -> A/N1H1
Nomi Prins, a former Wall Street worker who created the CDSes airs Wall Street Dirty Laundry. She says the securities and derivatives were created out of thin air and are not based on anything tangible. She also discusses the motivations of Wall Street workers. IT’s all about ego!
Youri:
I spent some time looking for the AN1N1-California flu information. The Mayo clinic does not even publish the AN1N1-California flu in its list. The sites I search interchange the name H1N1a/swine flu with AN1N1-California which makes me think the N1N1 marker is the trait for spanish flu. The stories out of Ukraine are indicative of pneumonic plague. Your news link is not verifiable beyond rumour.
Hopefully this is just a scare but I would treat the causitive agent as bacterial not viral based on the evidence from what we know now. It surely looks like pneumonic plague if the stories are true. (IMHO!!!)
but be aware that if you wonna be sure to get the same nutrcians from the veggies you must eat a lot of other beans and stuff. Be sure you informe yourself well about the veggie food cause otherwise you’ll get sick.
If I where to be the Doc I would try heavy antibiotics anyways.
Much less harmfull than all of those toxic Injection Vaccins and certainly Tamiflu, I would never take that. That would mess up your whole bodely immum sytem.
The virus, which causes death, is very aggressive, it does not strike the trachea, but immediately gets into the lungs and causes heavy swelling and solid hemorrhage. MIXED TYPES of PARAINFLUENZA and INFLUENZA A/N1N1 lead to this state. This is a VERY TOXIC STRAIN, which has NOT YET ANSWERED TO THE TREATMENT of the Ministry of Health”,- said Viktor Bachinsky.
Viktor Bachinsky noted that the virus is extremely toxic, it is able to penetrate not only through respiratory apparatus but also through the eyes.
“Early treatment of pneumonic plague is essential. To reduce the chance of death, antibiotics must be given within 24 hours of first symptoms. Streptomycin, gentamicin, the tetracyclines, and chloramphenicol are all effective against pneumonic plague.”
On November 2, Infowars Ireland reported that authorities in Kiev were spraying of “aerosolized medication” by aircraft over city.
Reports of helicopters and light airplanes spraying aerosols over Kiev, Lviv, Ternopil, and other cities throughout Ukraine are tonight flooding online forums and websites, hundreds of people have verified the reports with their own eye-witness accounts. http://tinyurl.com/ykd7wzh
Pneumonic plague results in a severe fulminant illness that develops with associated high fever, chills, headache, productive cough, chest pain, hemoptysis, extreme malaise, myalgias, tachypnea, tachycardia, and pneumonia. GI symptoms, including nausea, vomiting, abdominal pain, and diarrhea are also commonly seen. If not treated within 24 hours of onset, pneumonic plague rapidly progresses to acral cyanosis, respiratory failure, septicemia, circulatory collapse, and death. Untreated, the mortality rate is 50-90%. With treatment, the rate is 15%.
Just learned about the term “pneumonic” a couple of days ago but they say not.
Doctors learned why Ukrainians dying!
* total destruction of the lungs
* cardiogenic shock is developed, which causes cardiac standstill and death
* mixed types of parainfluenza & influenza A/N1N1, very toxic strain
* able to penetrate not only through respiratory apparatus but also through the eyes
All victims of the virus in Bukovyna (22 people at the age of 20-40) died NOT from bilateral pneumonia, as was previously thought, but as a result of VIRAL DISTRESS SYNDROME, i.e the total destruction of the lungs.
Our wise guy and absolutely marvelous U.S. Treasury Secretary Timmy The G. told us this morning the economy needs more time to rebound. No Kidding. The last time we went through this mess it lasted from 1929 to 1954 for the stock market recovery. This time it’s infinitely worse times ten. We might all die of old age before the next recovery in mainstream shares. The stocks today (excluding precious metals and a few others) are just where they were in the year 2000. Consequently those holding from there to here had a wonderful exercise in brain damage and futility. So much for buy and hold forever.
Key Points To Ponder On Our Conclusions.
Bond markets are overbought.
Junk bonds and municipal bonds are going very scary.
Japan’s bond pile is so enormous it simply cannot go on much longer.
Since U.S. bond markets are 70 times larger than the shares, when this baby pops it could be financial Armageddon.
Equities have gained nothing for a decade. They gave it all back.
Gold has tripled in less than ten years and is rising even faster.
Consumer confidence is at new lows.
Real estate foreclosures were reported up 18% this morning. It’s getting worse.
Billionaire Wilbur Ross posted an extreme warning on commercial real estate. We said the same thing many months ago. Insurance companies holding this paper are going down, too.
Moody’s is going to report stuff ever faster; each month instead of intermittently. They do not intend to take more extreme criticisms on all of these bank and corporate failures.
The stimulus in the U.S. has stopped having any effects. Now the political manipulation idiots want another one. More paper printing and dilution with inflation and hyper-inflation results.
One of the last remaining sources of investment bank income, trading, is being capped by a federal dolt restricting pay. The good traders are going overseas. Adios bank income. All they need is Glass-Stegal and reasonable SEC enforcement. They won’t do it.
China has five big bubbles in progress. Watch for them to pop individually or collectively-credit, shares, housing, banks and real estate.
Financial stocks are headed south again after the bear market dead cat bounce and free taxpayer cash.
Bank credit is as scarce as hen’s teeth. These guys are working the spread on free government cash and not lending. New loans are pure fiction.
Borrowers qualified to borrow are cutting back credit lines and hunkering down with cash. Smart ones are shunning debt for liquidity. They know what’s coming.
GE is having a fire sale to off-load as many divisions and assets as possible to raise cash. Being a big bank (not in name but as GE Capital) they are in deep you know what. We think they could potentially fail and we give it one out of three. That would really dump ALL the markets.
CIT, the premier lender for medium and small businesses went bankrupt. Yes, they will reorganize but with what tiny previous percentage of loans being originated? Small business is credit dry as CIT funded receivables.
Dollars are oversold and will bounce a little. For the longer pull they get cut in half again.
The Canadian Dollar is rising on commodities and a government with a much better balance sheet. For the shorter term it could correct mildly but then should rise in value beyond the US dollar. Canada is best situated to weather the storm in our view.
The Swiss Franc is another fiat currency. However, it is sounder than the others and is still perceived as being a “safe and secure currency”…a place to park some cash for a rainy day.
The Euro is overbought and should be selling back to some place lower. Recently it’s been an inverse dollar trade in rallies.
Barter has begun in earnest with crude oil. Producers are finally skipping the interim paper cash or bond route as currency. China can buy oil with trade goods and so can others. Look for barter to spread rapidly.
In summary
Since USA consumers are 70% of the American economy and this economy is the world’s fiscal driver with our failing dollar covering 80% of the world’s reserves; think about this nasty combo.
U.S. consumers are saving not spending.
Consumers are unemployed to the tune of 20% in USA. It’s going to 30-35%.
Since credit is terribly expensive (29.99% on credit cards) and not available for the most part, the American economy is stalled and frozen.
Stocks are flat to down and have earned nothing for a decade.
Where is the engine of growth? Who has credit? Who has money to spend?
U.S. Dollars are sliding in value as shares are peaking and selling-off.
We are toast and the worse hits in 2010-2012; then comes World War III.
U.S. Dollar index supports at 75.00. After a return to 78.50 selling resumes.
We are expecting a mild markets’ move on technical signals at this date. Could it become more extreme? Yes, it could but it increasingly appears we get a mild correction followed by a new shares rally in precious metals and mainstream shares. We would be PM shares buyers on our technical confirmation.
Financials crashed in fall, 2008 with Lehman. Recovery began with TARP in May, 2009: During November, 2009, we’re ending a dead cat bounce with mild toppy selling this month. Precious metals and their shares are still peaking on this November 11, 2009; for the shorter term. This week most trends are in reverse and then later move to rallies. Between now and then some selling and corrections should appear. We are at a turning point in most markets with lots of choppy, sideways trading.
Keep in mind, if you own paid for stuff it will most likely remain in your hands; not in somebody else’s. That includes gold and silver. Do not get tangled-up in daily noise. Keep studying the larger view and buy precious metals after each profit-taking correction. Headwinds are building into an economic hurricane. Take care of business right now.
My dire prediction might surprise us and arrive at any time. Selling is mild now. But next summer could be the large crash. In the coming middle, look for more buying on most everything. Our personal trading year to date is up nearly 100%. Markets are giving.
Personally, I can see unbelievable opportunities to trade that we would never see again for many years. Turn these problems into opportunities. Those on the right side of the trade might get rich. Those on the other side are just victims. Stay Alert
“Pneumonic plague occurs when Y. pestis infects the lungs. This type of plague can spread from person to person through the air. Transmission can take place if someone breathes in aerosolized bacteria, which could happen in a bioterrorist attack. ”
I’m SO excited! Just found Food Inc. online! Theaters around here didn’t play it when it first came out. If anyone wants to watch it, it’s here: http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/food-inc/
@ Youri Carma
I think i mentioned this before Kings and previous Rulers Figured out u could TAX the Public upto 70 % before you’d get over thrown or have a Revolution
So now they are Broke in terms of Running a Govt. they gotta pay thier Luetents. so
Its Almost a Stale mate
Now is the time its gonna get interesting over the next 2 years
‘Yesterday it was my birthday
I hung one more year on the line
I should be depressed
My life’s a mess
But I’m having a good time
Oo, I’ve been loving and loving and loving
I’m exhausted from loving so well
I should go to bed
But a voice in my head
Says “ah, what the hell”
Have a good time
Have a good time
Have a good time
Have a good time
Paranoia strikes deep in the heartland
But I think it’s all overdone
Exaggerating this and exaggerating that
They don’t have no fun
I don’t believe what I read in the papers
They’re just out to capture my dime
I ain’t worrying
And I ain’t scurrying;
I’m having a good time
Have a good time
Have a good time
Have a good time
Have a good time
Maybe I’m laughing my way to disaster
Maybe my race has been run
Maybe I’m blind to the fate of mankind
But what can be done?
So God bless the goods we was given
And God bless the u. s. of a.
And God bless our standard of livin’
Let’s keep it that way
And we’ll all have a good time’
If I were Iran or North Korea I Would immediately annonce Allegance to China or Russia and loose All Sovernity to China or Russia RODFL Hic
Then I wonder what USA would do
RODFL
And RODFL i would Announce it as soon as the first sight of the False Flag operation.
And the two twixt the 2
RODFL
COMPLETELY INSANE – The Netherlands: From every liter that we pay 60% is Government Tax! Now they wonna install an extra Tax on top of that for every kilometer that you drive while in fact we already pay a kilometer Tax, the 60% on gasoline. Later we get the Carbon Cap and Trade on top of that.
The Netherlands pledged late on Friday to scrap the road tax but this tax is already low cause this was already lowered in the past when they begun to tax the gasoline very heavy 70% in the past now 60%.
If Obama Truly followed a Policy of Transparecy
Bush & Cheny Shoulda been on Death Row in the First week of his Office
Hes Part of the Same bunch of Senile Idiots.
Michele Obama oooh my blood Curls when i see her
Because these Senile Idiots Bush Obama and the sorts they think they are playing a board game like monopoly Dumb Nitwits could’nt pass 5th grade.
RODFL i wonder how they gonna announce this NWO
I mean who gets up in the morning and a light bulb triggers lets Rule the world.
Why is there this urge too Rule over people.
Any Quack out there that can help me hmm err Decompose RODFL Disect this Behavior ??
Sexual Inaduqacy ,,, Impotence ?????
Has to be Inferirity Complex
Lets See they named themselves “freemasons”
So they werent free in the first Place
Hmm eerrr they were the Slaves of the Egyptian Pharos
Hmm Ahh that makes Sense
LOL i Wonder how they’ll write the History Books for Kids Explaining Sept 9/11
Well Hyn the 3 rd Plane went into a Garbage site and Dissapeard into the Ground.
RODFL
And the Pentagon had just one Camera hunni bunni
and the Pentagon Released only 5 frames Hunni bunni
RODFL
Peter Schiff is like a tube of toothpaste which was always rolled up correctly before squirting. BORING. Max thinks we are all ants in an ant farm. Are we?
Protesters Plan Huge Anti-Goldman Rally In Washington, DC
Following Massive Showdown in Chicago…
Hundreds of Taxpayers to Converge on Goldman Sachs DC Headquarters Monday
National Mobilization Continues to Demand End to Multi-Billion Dollar Bonuses at Bailed Out Banks and the Too Big To Fail Doctrine, Calls for Congressional Action Now
Oh i always watch Shiff
Hope he gets Elected
I Like the way he says
“This is JUST NONSENCE”
RODFL he is very carefull RODFL n his Dad is in Jail because he refuses to pay TAX his dad says its un-constitutional True Patriot
@ Mike
Oh n just Watch out as part of thier End Game they Gonna Kill a Whole Lotta People Dont Know How
These Senile Eugenists have fun doing that
I Suspect thier H1 N1 Flu Vaccination was a Flop
So hmmm errrr they must be in a Think Tank mode now
at midnight.. just got back from dinner. bout to head to the bars down in DC – just checking up on the convo while waiting for my ride lol take care again guys
@Snoot
Love to hear your perspective on things. Gold is valuable in a system and world that doesn’t completely go to hell. Water/Food/ Ammo are the real tangible assets that will get anything in a world gone to sh**. But Gold has always been held a valuable means of exchange and I will always bet on gold
@ Mike
Very Small group of people with one goal. WORLD DOMINATION
AAAAwwe Mike Dont worry these guys are Sterile
A Bunch of Dumb Nitwits
They just Senile n we gonna have a hearty Laugh when all this is over.
I Just hope we can Lynch em first.
RODFL
I live here in New Jersey amongst hundreds of banker; Max is 100 percent correct in his analysis! Paul Krugman is a puppet like Obama, both working for a Very Small group of people with one goal. WORLD DOMINATION!
Isn’t that what Hitler wanted? Maybe he’s still alive? (In spirit?)
@Justget it right – You’re welcome. The book is incredible. I learned a whole lot of new stuff. Had a lot of fun reading it, too: i read it out loud to my guy in front of campfires on vacation, and finished reading it aloud during the 4 hour drive home. It’s definitely a book to be shared.
@ Phil – if you let that 2nd Rushkoff video keep running, there are a series of little video snippets between 5 second breaks . . . good stuff in there on currencies, free markets, etc.
@ Phil – Yep . . . disgusting as hell. It was the first I ever heard of the Supreme Court ruling in favor of dispossessing people of their homes for the express interests of private development. It’s a disgrace that that ever happened. Something needs to be done, though, about corporate welfare at the state level, about tax abatements, and about all of the other loopholes that exist for corporations.
I have to give another plug for Douglas Rushkoff’s book Life Inc. . Max is right that we all need to be immediately concerned about net neutrality and copyright issues. We also need to be concerned about corporations continuing to plunder our communities. Rushkoff is a master at discussing the history of corps. and corporatism. It’s a history that everyone should know about so that we can figure out ways to start taking back our power, communities, and culture. ( Some video.)
I don’t know. Do you want to incorporate our names? WE could sell handbags for really dumb people.
*Get the latest in essential fashion handbags from the only exclusive outlet for those nay-saying bimbo dumbass stupid people like yourselves!*
DORK AND SNOOT
Proceeds from sales to benefit the FMBA (fascist mini-blight-association) for American OIL and natural GAS as well as COAL
Purveyors of fine fashion apparel since the Mini-Blights won American Idol!
“But it is really wanting to appear super dumb if you pretent the world will end if you are not allowed to burn stuff (oil, gas) anymore. ”
Hello? Yes, this is the hotline for the institutionally stupid. What, I’m putting you on hold. Please be sure to keep hold of the receiver and speak into the mouthpiece when my voice returns….
(soft rock music plays while the sound of mouth-breathing whisps past the mouthpiece)
I’m back. There seems to be a flux of calls at present.
Yes. HELLO? YES. HELLO? I’M CALLING TO ASK WHY WE HAVE TO STOP USING OUR HUMMER. I SAVED MY WINN DIXIE STAMPS FOR THREE YEARS TO GET THE DOUGH-RE-MEE TO PAY FOR THE SON-OF-A-BITCH VE-HICK-CLE.
Yes, well. There have been numerous Scientific Studies done showing the Greenland Ice Shelf is detaching and may splash into the ocean at any moment. Do you read?
YES. HELLO? I READ PEOPLE MAGAZINE WHEN MY AUNT BEATRICE IS DONE WITH’IT. WHAT? GREENLAND? IS THAT NEAR MEMPHIS? THEY GOT PROBLEMS WITH THEIR REFRIGERATION, MY UNCLE MERVIN GOTS HIM A BUSINESS FIXING RE-FRIG-ER-ATURS!
Sigh. I am afraid the time allotted to super dumb people is up. We gave you a few more seconds than normal, seeing as you are really quite stupid. But not institutionally stupid, you are free to continue watching whatever t.v. shows you like riddled with fascist mini-blights like yourself.
WELL. YOU DIDN’T ANSWER MY QUESTION, BUT YOU TALK A MIGHT PERTY. GUESS I’LL RUN OFF’S TO WATCH GLENN BECK. BYE!
Gold, Always believe in,,,, You got the power to know , Something I’ve could have learned. Your Indestructible, Always believe in, Gold! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OMyuyurFW0
Granted, there where famines etc. That had a lot to do with lack of industrialization and technical advances. But it is really wanting to appear super dumb if you pretent the world will end if you are not allowed to burn stuff (oil, gas) anymore. The fact is that if you thought about it one second more you’d be condemning the oil companies and industry for not switching away form burning stuff in engines, just like you might condem a smoker for increasing your medical insurance cost because they can’t beat their habit and will need treatment later.
I am diversified and gold is in the mix. You fail to recognize the optionality. It is not all or nothing here. Gold alone may not save you, but it is part of the emergency kit. BTW, I do not expect or desire an official gold standard.
@WL:
Because, WL, I don’t think you can keep your investment against the onslaught of civil-rights violations, the hoards of starving Zombis, and the perpetual sweep of plagues.
I’d stock on ammo and guns and food and water. Go down like the Alamo with some self-respect. Not malinger over gold bars in a bestered-than-the-brightest hope.
The big boys mean business: they always have. Think of Cambodia. We are stastical blops that have been marked off.
I’d imagine Goldman’s were unhappy about the publicity the abandonment got them following The Villager’s original report.
It suggests investment banks are sensitive to any bad publicity in terms sufficiently simple to be understood in the popular press.
That’s why the Giant Vampire Squid image hit home and led to a PR counter-offensive, and now they seem to have been obliged to respond to the kitten story.
Perhaps the lesson is criticism of banks has to be both visual and emotive to gain traction in mass media.
@WL:
Why do you ask for answers from within the gold arena? WE can only hope for rectitude from you the Golden Ones after all the torrid abuse you have suffered in defense of the divine gold ideal!
@MotherEarth:
I’m not against a post-industrial world. I adore John Ruskin. I think fossil fuel reliance is dirty. So, I’m in agreement with you in principal. The problematic for me is the corruption, the wars, the dirty deals: the hypocrisy of those melding politics to ecology (as Scott from Oregon put it so well). The end to me doesn’t justify the means. The end could be had through integrity to self. Why the rush willy-nilly into perdition?
Here’s a nice Ruskin passage:
And thus, in full, there are four classes:
the men who feel nothing, and therefore see truly; the men who feel strongly, think weakly, and see untruly (second order of poets); the men who feel strongly, think strongly, and see truly (first order of poets); and the men who, strong as human creatures can be, are yet submitted to influences stronger than they, and see in a sort untruly, because what they see in inconceivably above them. (this last is the condition of prophetic inspiration). (pg 68) John Ruskin: Selections from His Writings
@r Unemployed
I was taken aback by that comment also. Before max had arrived at the end of the sentence, I had already formed an image of chocolate licking virgins.
I remember even 20 years ago trying to get a MC68020 motherboard made in Germany. The only German company that could do any thing near what we wanted also did a lot of work for Siemens.
After the “electronic validation” , only 3 of the prototypes of 12 made in through the test. The German manufacturer said he had never had such a complex motherboard before.
He said the “Feinleitertechnik” ( Fine wire technology ) was only possible in Taiwan , and no German company can do it.
To this day, I very much doubt if there is a Co. in the West that has the required equipment to do this.
… and we’re talking about 20 years ago.
FWIW
Re: Bernie the socialist, the GOP NEVER refers to him as a socialist or attacks his positions in any way. IMO, they don’t do so, b/c they don’t want the public to have an accurate sense of who “socialists” are, what they believe, or what their positions are. If all of the country knew that the Independent from Vt. was a socialist, they might have a much better opinion of democratic socialism.
@motherearth
no they did not people had nasty short brutal lifes
indeed the decade before the 1850s was marked by a famine of biblical proporations in the land of the rednecks.
in responce to frances I weigh 180ib so you can multiply that by the spot price in gold
Are we repeating 1923 Germany? It is very hard to sort through the tons of rhetoric that that LaRouche uses to what kind of end. Some of the problems defined are accurate, some of the solutions are accurate, but these factors would be identified by anyone with an objective view of the problems. The whole point might be to put Lyndon LaRouche at the center of the universe. In terms of crisis, symptoms , and solutions he (in part) stands correct. But everyone that is awake can see the same things.
@ Max – honest question about the “Dear Leader” comment: Can you think of any dear leader (besides maybe Chavez) who would’ve opted to DO God’s work (i.e. debt jubilee) by wiping out the $11 trillion?
I’m still listening to the show . . . my dog was very interested in the noises coming out of your bag o’ cats.
I understand the what the IMF is up to and agree with you. That doesn’t preclude myself from storing a portion of my wealth in gold among other things.
If i were to liquidate my gold now, what do you suggest I do with the proceeds? serious answer
Remember, opportunity exists between perception and realty…
WL:
That is an interesting statement coming from a person who is ducktaped inside a gold box without light. The system of exchange is about to completely change. The point being, you should peek out a bit and look at what the IMF are really up to.
is it just me or do you think Mark Faber once worked for spectre
-or parhaps he keeps a white cat in one of his lairs
maybe thats where the goldman kittins come from
What? We have a IEFPEGCF party in the US they call themselves the Congressmen, Senators and Lobbyists.
Of course, Pez. I wouldn’t want our politicos to feel left out! But they haven’t really had as good a chance when up at bat like these guys are gonna get.
I also have iron ore and fertilizer investments but they are not portable like gold. I am researching heavy rare earth investments now. That will be huge if you find the right investment vehicle.
I have argued with people since I started buying it around 2001 and $275 gold. People either get it or they don’t. Most just want to convince you that they are smarter by not holding gold. They have closed minds, no matter what you say.
OTOH, why do I bother ! .. as WL rightly said.
Bon(n) Voyage !
Just be Safe People Peace Out 8th Large down
“Gold the 6,000 year old SCAM”
Invest in Stuff people use everyday
Not a Diamond Company or Else u’ll Be like Leanardo De Caprio “TIA” = Tihis Africa
Yes, because their leaders take on loans and bribes to build their palaces and infrastructures while burdening the country with foreign fiat debt. The US Cos, make off with hefty profits leaving the unrepayable debt.
The debt may originally not look too bad, but cumulative fiat interest makes it everntually unrepayable. So the Creditor asks for his pound of flesh … military bases, taking their natural resources for a pittance price, control of usually a dictatorship that is hooked on US$s.
OTOH, why do I bother ! .. as WL rightly said.
Bon(n) Voyage !
to all gold nonbelivers out there – gold is a monetary asset or currency . I do believe it has only limited industrial use but people and central banks consider it a valuable unit of exchange(except that American gentleman who refused to buy a maple leaf for $50)
I can never imagine myself going to my local store with daisy the cow in tow but parhaps I lack imagination or parhaps soon shops won’t exist , if so we are truely in the manure.
Unfortunately we can not buy automatic wepons where I come from ,indeed the Police force itself is in the main unarmed so I will have to reley on the christian decency of my fellow man…
@ Phil
Heres a useless product come to a thirdworld country use it
People are Diein of Starvation starvation not a DIET starvation n u think they care about GOLD it was fun till now
But u can continue
my sole arguement was “better invest in Steel Cement or a food company” these are things people use
RODFL
Carry on on GOLD
“You can’t forge it
You can’t make it
You can’t “really” destroy it
It is non corrosive which is why is always shines
& last but not least : Everbody wants it”
Well, your whiskey is liquid, but I think the only thing this really applies to is water.
Now the really smart fuckers are the ones gonna tax people to breath and then tell them to drop dead when they complain. Cuz if you ain’t a’gonna pay, might as well drop dead. Pay up or don’t breath.
And no use anywhichway cuz water ain’t gonna be free either.
Sure, some people’s is gonna haffa die. That’s life when you’re controlled by ignoramus Eurosocialist freeloading parasitical elite genocidal control freaks.
@wh
Where I come from we don’t even use the word… it’s bad luck, long tails lor ong tailed uns… what about the phrase ‘lower than a snakes ass’ come to mind… or should that be lower than a snakes ass and twice as twisted… maybe not!!!
The Day i see any sense in GOLD is the the day i go COO COO invest in Steel or Cement or something that will be used LAND Gingas Khan thouth it was good so did lotta rulers like USA illegal War in Iraq Hmm err perhaps
All rulers want is LAND
You can’t forge it
You can’t make it
You can’t “really” destroy it
It is non corrosive which is why is always shines
& last but not least : Everbody wants it
“and why is it that we don’t care about a “rat’s” ass. why not some other rodent? if the goal is to express how little we care, why not select a life form that has even a smaller ass than a rat?”
@WhiteHunter:
Well, I don’t give a worm’s behind about gold.
I know, I just wanted to flush out environmentalist assassins desire that those who have a different opinion should die. They claim morality and demonize dissent.
Whats-that-you-say Pa? Crabs is at the creek. You needin some for supper?
No, Steller. I’m a’lookin at this poem and is says the Eur-O-pee-uns wear cravats. That there Eu-ro..did that feller ever give you a call bout them dollars?
Pa. You done told me to give-er-up, so I did. I don’t care a’tall bout money. You’z been a’workin honest yur whole life an whatz you got to show fur it? A mule, a trailer, and Grannie’s teeth. Seems likely that’z gonna be all as well.
Well, I reckon the South gonna rise again, Sweet Pea. Them Eur-O-pee-uns ain’t so much better’n the rest of us round here. I’m gonna get me a cravat and wear’it fur supper. No run down creekside and get us some crabs! Ma’z fixin to make some okra s’well with the cornbread.
and why is it that we don’t care about a “rat’s” ass. why not some other rodent? if the goal is to express how little we care, why not select a life form that has even a smaller ass than a rat?
Hey bonn, you make a good point about the non utility of gold, but it doesn’t matter. Historically, man has coveted gold. This covetous nature may be psychological, I don’t know. I suspect that it is archetypal. It don’t really matter why man whores after gold; the main point is that, until the nature of man changes, he will continue to do so in varying degrees.
@y’all
Hey Joe… where ya goin’ with that… wait… Happy Birthday!!!
although I already wished Danny happy birthday in advance… Happy Birthday!!!….DANNY!
Dedo… a big slobbery wet kiss and a yard of tongue… HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!… and I aint sayin anutha word to ya … cos I bet you know what I’m thinking anyaway!!!
You are stoked up bruddah, and I am rollin on the floor
GOLD , can we eat it, drink it, wipe your ass with it?
Man, I am stackin up on things that I can eat, drink,
keep warm, and wipe with. LOL
Sure its ok to have gold, but …
Bonn, i agree with ya dude. Have another drink and
keep um commin. HA!
Catherine Austin Fitts and News & Commentary, July 1, 2009 at 8:07 am
If you think the housing and credit bubble diminished your financial security and your community, or the bailouts, or the rising gas prices did as well, hold on to your hat. The worst may be yet to come. Carbon trading is gearing up to make the housing and derivatives bubbles look like target practice.
Here are some comments on H.R. 2454, the American Clean Energy and Security Act of 2009:
“economic colonization of the heartland”
-Rep. Geoff Davis (R-Kentucky)
“a scam”
-Rep. Devin Nunes (R-California)
“massive transfer of wealth”
-Rep. James Sensenbrenner (R-Wisconsin)
“Carbon markets can and will be manipulated using the same Wall Street sleights of hand that brought us the financial crisis.”
-Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-Ohio)
And from Elizabeth Kolbert’s New Yorker interview with James Hansen, NASA’s climate expert:”Hansen pointed out that the bill explicity allows for the construction of new coal plants and predicted that it would, if passed, prove close to meaningless. He said that he thought it would probably be best if the bill failed…”
“a coin with a tungsten center and gold all around it could not be detected as counterfeit by density measurement alone… We are well accustomed to exploit more innovative applications of tungsten products. Gold-plated tungsten is one of our main products.” http://www.tungsten-alloy.com/en/alloy11.htm
Remeber the ol James Bond move “Goldfinger” (1964) in which evildoer Goldfinger tries to detroy all the gold in Fort Knox so that his gold would increase in value. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0058150/
This is the reverse Goldfinger making more fake gold to decrease it. Could this be the truth? “Gold Finger – A New Take On Operation Grand Slam With A Tungsten Twist” http://tinyurl.com/yetz6qm
GOLD in my opinion = Carbon credits SCAM like Al Gore
I dont use Gold n i have never used Gold other than a decorative item
Blimey people are insane
@ Stacey @ Anyone
“Could u live without Gold ?”
Was throwing a bag of kittens in the river a reference to Sartre’s La Nausee?
I’m not surprised Bernie Sanders would have a capitalist solution to the banks. Socialists understand the dynamics of capitalism, while actual capitalists only seem to understand the size of their bank accounts.
Regarding Paul Krugman, although I do read him and often like what he has to say politically, he is entrenched in a very defined set of economic possibilities. I read his long overview of the divide between economists within the US regarding what went wrong with the economy that appeared in the NY Times Magazine awhile ago (saltwater versus freshwater economists). I found it remarkable and deeply disturbing that he did not include any ideas outside of the capitalist paradigm. How do you critique something without looking at ideas outside of that particular structure? It’s intellectually weak.
Finally, I would like to hear something from you two about counterfeiting of gold bars. What do you think of this?
@Phil:
The world is not an ant farm. We do no exist for the interests of bankers: European or American. The Anglo-Dutch empire is doomed to fail because men invest in that which has no value, deferring that which meads value to the earth and it’s inhabitants. The words are meaningless because the actions are selfish and evil.
Hope is not an essense, an idea, a promise: it cannot be bought and sold. Hope is the way we live our lives daily: and to make the choice to align our actions with the ethics which we know is true brings joy to fruition.
What makes you tick, Phil? Why do you mead action to impulse?
So, the US moves to energy Independence only to find itself in rare earth dependence on China who controls 80% of world production. Heavy Rare Earths are needed for ‘green’ technology.
How is that going to work for the environmental suicide bombers
@frances … “”Why don’t you ever pick on European bankers,”
Are there actually any left ?
The US$ is currently the WW reserve currency and the FED controls the value of this – i.e. it’s the core of the Fiat system and the right place to start. All other Fiat currencies relate ( Xrate ) to the US$ as the clearing currency WW.
While watching financial terrorists, Max and Stacy have enabled environmental terrorists to gain a mindhold by extorting global rents on life itself through “carbon taxes”. If you don’t pay the world will burn up in a warming hell.
Hank Paulson, Bernanke and Geithner are no different than the environmental terrorists extorting human productivity. In fact, some of them are the same actors, like Goldman Sachs and its interests in the carbon trading scheme or scam.
Is there a system developed and developing calling forth statis truth in service to the EU superstate? In what position would Max and Stacy place themselves in regard to the truth promoted in the interests of the European banking elites?
Won’t the carbon credit system Max promotes as good and necessary to the ecology promote the interests of the European bank investments?
TimesOnline – Mortgage rescue programme has helped only 92 families
… Grant Shapps, Shadow Housing Minister, said in a statement that the low take-up had “little to do with a lack of necessity, with almost 11,000 approaches made to local authorities by families since January. However, even the most vulnerable are being neglected by the scheme with just one in 30 approaches by those in ‘priority need’ receiving assistance…
@Max:
Why don’t you ever pick on European bankers, like Trichet? Is Trichet innocent? Why do you assign all the evils of the world to Wall Street?
The blogging typing bit was a little blatant as well: do you really only consign value to bloggers who agree with your limited viewpoints? Are you god?
Iran to supply 5m new coins to gold market
Tehran: 9 hours and 27 minutes ago
Iran’s central bank plans to inject 5 million newly-minted gold coins into the domestic market in order to control rising gold coin prices, according to the official IRNA news agency.
At Thursday’s price of 2.8 million rials (about $280) for a standard gold coin in Iran, the total value of the planned intervention would amount to $1.4 billion, Irna reported on Thursday.
The price of gold coins in Iran has risen sharply in line with developments on international markets where gold bullion has risen 28 per cent this year to a record high $1,122.85 an ounce.
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RODFL PMSL Max u are too good I cant get enough RODFL I bet we are gonna be Laughing at this 10 years down the line HopeFULLY after we indicte them cause Surely they also have no CLue what they Doing cause all of em have BROWN noses
How do u get a Brown nose RODFL ask a Dog
You Lick ASS
HAPPPPY BIRTHDAY TOO YOU DANNY
Congrates
OFC i dont like birthdays it just reminds me how much time i got and post 30 really sucks Joints get weak
Man i use to bench press 160 pounds so easily when i was 23 now i doubt i can do 10 push ups
@Phil – there will be lots of those tungsten like stories, the higher gold goes / dollar sinks; some of them will be real though; all bull markets bring out the con men and unfortunately there are very few barriers to entry in defrauding most markets these days
@Danny – yes! I’m so sorry; happy birthday!!! We were at studio all day today doing three interviews! Plus prepping for recording the first Keiser Report on Monday, lots of new equipment, booking guest, etc. But I did think of you on your birthday, thought rising gold price was your present
Mr. Turk says [paraphrasing] the US has to move from an economy of consumption and debt to one of production and savings. Look at the US tax code..what is taxed, production [income] or consumption [debt]? You can deduct your mortgage interest but anytime you produce something for profit you are taxed. The tax code + the federal reserve fiat currency coup are designed to enslave a society into debt slavery. Throw out the income tax, replace it with a value added consumption tax, go to a currency system which is not fractional reserve based and you have your utopia. Well….at least better than this.
excellent OTE episode again. thanks Max and Stacy.
yes. i read some of that article on blankfien thinking he’s doing gods work earlier this week. it gives you a bit of insight into the mentality of the parasitic scum that is goldman sachs and it dosn’t surprise me that they abandoned the kittens.
it was a good article woth reading…
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article6907681.ece
DUDE YOU HAVE THE MOST AWESOME BLOG ON THE INTERNET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I love it dipped in chocolate and licked head to toe by Allen Greenspan!!!!
Doing God Work
Tie weights around Goldman Sachs Traders/ Banksters legs and see if they float!!!!!
IF THEY FU#$%^ FLOAT I”LL AGREE THEY WORK FOR GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Related to the article that max posted, on Wednesday, November 11, 2009, a new fund of junior gold mining shares began trading called Junior Gold Miners ETF (GDXJ) The basic idea is that smaller companies tend to be more volatile than larger ones, and therefore GDXJ will usually experience greater percentage moves in both directions than GDX. I know that max, and manyof the readers of this site are not fans of etfs, but as the article states, I think accurately, etfs is where the money will flow when the gold market goes parabolic.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/13/world/13flu.html
Blatant lies:
“Although antiviral medications are most effective when used within 48 hours after symptoms start, Dr. Shindo said the drugs should be given even after that if a person is very sick.”
“In Ukraine, it appeared to take about two weeks from the time the first deaths were reported in October for the authorities to link them to the H1N1 flu.”
The WHO is disappointed that Ukranian ‘protocol’ meant a reduction in their ability to push Tamiflu:
“The new guidelines say that anyone with flu-like symptoms for three days, along with people in several high-risk groups — pregnant women, children under 2 and people with underlying respiratory problems — should not wait for laboratory tests to confirm the diagnosis but should be treated right away with drugs like Tamiflu.
Although Tamiflu had been stockpiled, protocol required doctors to prove a patient had H1N1 with laboratory testing before prescribing the medicine, said Nadezhda Rudnitskaya, the chief of pulmonology at Lviv Medical University.”
HINIA/swine/whatever is become resistant to Tamiflu, and (IMHO) most probably always was because of the HINIa component. The WHO wants to pedal Roche drugs without restrictions.
wow, wall street heaven is being licked head to toe by greenspan. he is a ugly mug. i think i would rather shovel shit in hell. pg
Thanks, Stacy. I rely on you and Max very heavily for my understanding of markets. Just a rookie, I am.
@Mep – depends on what the dollar does and whether or not all currencies are tumbling, what’s happening in the global market, etc; and even if it hits $8000 USD, then it might not be hitting say 5000 EUR if it is just a dollar phenomena; will talk about this on one of our shows in next few days
@ bonn – Just finished watching, myself. I had no idea that there was such a thing as vegetable libel laws (or cloned meat). Monsanto needs to be taken down. That’s all there is to that. Unfortunately, though, Mr. Obama is on the side of A href=”http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_19436.cfm”>complete Monsanto domination.
Sustainable agriculture should definitely be pursued as a strategy for economic recovery. We need more people being able to make a living growing good food. The farmer I buy from wants to expand a little bit to meet the demand of new customers, but he said the bank loan was too much of a burden. Seems that farmers don’t even consider asking customers to invest in their farms. That’s an idea I’d like to see catch on. Cut out the banks, the factory farms, the chemical companies, and the seed Nazis.
@ Max – What’s your guesstimate for a high? Do you think that 8,000 is feasible?
Gold Bull Market Not Yet Manic
http://www.forbes.com/2009/11/12/gold-mining-stocks-personal-finance-investing-ideas-dollar-index.html?partner=yahootix
@ Mep
What i saw was enough though
Man 4 Large Corperations Running the Whole Show
Then You have Monsanto.
and the Technology front
if you Check the OEM- Original Equipment Manuf.
there are Just Probably 3 to 5
Nokia and LG and 2 other Cellphone MAnufacturers RODFL Housed in the same Building
These Elites are Like Viruses they get into every facet of your Life
I’m still confused about the swine flu. The US has reportedly had 20 million swine flu cases already; 4,000 people have died. However, my fiance was told by a student of his–who had been treated for swine flu–that they’re really not even testing for swine flu b/c it’s so expensive to run the tests. So I wonder if docs are just calling regular flu swine flu if it seems like a more severe case of the regular flu?
@ frances – I was just curious.
@ bonn – Good for you. Don’t know if I could give up meat entirely, but I’ve cut way back and get my meat now from a local organic farmer.
I didn’t realize when I posted the link to the doc. that there is a bandwidth limit and that once its hit, you have to wait a certain time to finish watching . . . bummer.
Choosing my religion 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uq11_In9h6Q&feature=channel
“The existence of even a single case of pneumonic plague in a non-endemic area
should raise suspicion of an act of bioterrorism and requires further investigation.”
Either the stories are lies or the stories are true but they are lying about the causitive agent.
@frances snoot
I think I first gonna wait for more info on the Ukrain pandemic and wi’ll read your stuff with it later.
I think my first hunch was right that it wasn’t simply the relative harmless H1N1 virus also because no further harmfull mutations were reported and that in fact the pandemic already had reached it’s peak in October or so I believe.
All we know from the Ukrain case is that it probably is a Mixed types of parainfluenza and influenza A/N1N1, that’s all, no further specifics.
Wait and see….
I meant to link this, but linked twice:
http://cstsonline.org/csts_items/CSTS_CME_RUSH_USU_pneumonic_plague.pdf
Can a law be written that allows stealing to be legalized?
Yes and here’s the proof.
http://www.counterpunch.org/andrew11112009.html
@Youri:
I didn’t know that. Thanks.
Do you understand the bacterial markers gram positive or negative?
http://www.ajtmh.org/cgi/reprint/78/6/868.pdf
http://www.ajtmh.org/cgi/reprint/78/6/868.pdf
http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:p9sedpmeOeoJ:www.bt.cdc.gov/agent/plague/trainingmodule/ppt/lesson_3_diagnosis.ppt+pneumonic+plague+is+gram+positive&cd=5&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&lr=lang_en&client=safari
@snipertrader
Well I was just concerned that some of you veggies might end up like Hitler
It seems It makes you very agressive not eating meat at least I get very agressive without meat.
@Bonn:
Guess you don’t want a BLT anymore.
http://sydl3t.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/blt.jpg
@frances snoot
You must realise that N1H1 or A/N1N1 is just a global type name with many variations. Spanish flu was a virulent and deadly influenza A virus strain of subtype H1N1 indeed -> A/N1H1
Nomi Prins, a former Wall Street worker who created the CDSes airs Wall Street Dirty Laundry. She says the securities and derivatives were created out of thin air and are not based on anything tangible. She also discusses the motivations of Wall Street workers. IT’s all about ego!
http://www.askbutwhy.com/2009/11/nomi-prins-motivations-on-wall-street.html
@Youri Carma
There are a whole host of vegetarian ppl living on earth…all hale and hearty.
@Supergeek:
VERY funny the grey guy and the NWO.
@ dan valley
thanks for that synopsis: confirms my gut reaction.
Oh the India cusine has Lotta vegtable dishes we have obese vegetarian here namely the Brahmans the use to be the High priests of Ancient India
Youri:
I spent some time looking for the AN1N1-California flu information. The Mayo clinic does not even publish the AN1N1-California flu in its list. The sites I search interchange the name H1N1a/swine flu with AN1N1-California which makes me think the N1N1 marker is the trait for spanish flu. The stories out of Ukraine are indicative of pneumonic plague. Your news link is not verifiable beyond rumour.
Hopefully this is just a scare but I would treat the causitive agent as bacterial not viral based on the evidence from what we know now. It surely looks like pneumonic plague if the stories are true. (IMHO!!!)
@Bonn
TnX Bonn ….
but be aware that if you wonna be sure to get the same nutrcians from the veggies you must eat a lot of other beans and stuff. Be sure you informe yourself well about the veggie food cause otherwise you’ll get sick.
@Y’all
one more…. grey bloke learns about the NWO.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmToueIgoNY
@frances snoot
If I where to be the Doc I would try heavy antibiotics anyways.
Much less harmfull than all of those toxic Injection Vaccins and certainly Tamiflu, I would never take that. That would mess up your whole bodely immum sytem.
@ Youri
Yeah n i believe that Organic Vegtables will Keep anything these Idiots throw at as at bay
So yup
You can have my share of meat
@Bonn “Man i am turning Vegitairian”
Are you sure? Cause if you are sure I am sure I can eat some extra meat.
Clusterf#@k to the Poor House – Wall Street Bailout
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-february-11-2009/clusterf–k-to-the-poor-house—wall-street-bailout
One of my Fav Moments TOOO Funny
RODFL
@ Mep
Man i am turning Vegitairian
http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/food-inc/
I wanted to Puke Oh Lord where and how did we come to this
@frances snoot
The virus, which causes death, is very aggressive, it does not strike the trachea, but immediately gets into the lungs and causes heavy swelling and solid hemorrhage. MIXED TYPES of PARAINFLUENZA and INFLUENZA A/N1N1 lead to this state. This is a VERY TOXIC STRAIN, which has NOT YET ANSWERED TO THE TREATMENT of the Ministry of Health”,- said Viktor Bachinsky.
Viktor Bachinsky noted that the virus is extremely toxic, it is able to penetrate not only through respiratory apparatus but also through the eyes.
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/australia/TNO47C7JO30RGR0JO
“Early treatment of pneumonic plague is essential. To reduce the chance of death, antibiotics must be given within 24 hours of first symptoms. Streptomycin, gentamicin, the tetracyclines, and chloramphenicol are all effective against pneumonic plague.”
http://www.bt.cdc.gov/agent/plague/factsheet.asp
On November 2, Infowars Ireland reported that authorities in Kiev were spraying of “aerosolized medication” by aircraft over city.
Reports of helicopters and light airplanes spraying aerosols over Kiev, Lviv, Ternopil, and other cities throughout Ukraine are tonight flooding online forums and websites, hundreds of people have verified the reports with their own eye-witness accounts. http://tinyurl.com/ykd7wzh
Youri:
I said: the controversy is whether the CAUSITIVE agent is viral or bacterial.
http://stanford.wellsphere.com/healthcare-industry-policy-article/mrsa-versus-the-plague/238282
Pneumonic plague results in a severe fulminant illness that develops with associated high fever, chills, headache, productive cough, chest pain, hemoptysis, extreme malaise, myalgias, tachypnea, tachycardia, and pneumonia. GI symptoms, including nausea, vomiting, abdominal pain, and diarrhea are also commonly seen. If not treated within 24 hours of onset, pneumonic plague rapidly progresses to acral cyanosis, respiratory failure, septicemia, circulatory collapse, and death. Untreated, the mortality rate is 50-90%. With treatment, the rate is 15%.
http://www.logicalimages.com/publicHealthResources/pneumonicPlague.htm
We had better hope it is A/N1N1
@frances snoot
Just learned about the term “pneumonic” a couple of days ago but they say not.
Doctors learned why Ukrainians dying!
* total destruction of the lungs
* cardiogenic shock is developed, which causes cardiac standstill and death
* mixed types of parainfluenza & influenza A/N1N1, very toxic strain
* able to penetrate not only through respiratory apparatus but also through the eyes
All victims of the virus in Bukovyna (22 people at the age of 20-40) died NOT from bilateral pneumonia, as was previously thought, but as a result of VIRAL DISTRESS SYNDROME, i.e the total destruction of the lungs.
@Youri:
There is controversy over whether the causitive agent is viral or bacterial.
Our wise guy and absolutely marvelous U.S. Treasury Secretary Timmy The G. told us this morning the economy needs more time to rebound. No Kidding. The last time we went through this mess it lasted from 1929 to 1954 for the stock market recovery. This time it’s infinitely worse times ten. We might all die of old age before the next recovery in mainstream shares. The stocks today (excluding precious metals and a few others) are just where they were in the year 2000. Consequently those holding from there to here had a wonderful exercise in brain damage and futility. So much for buy and hold forever.
Key Points To Ponder On Our Conclusions.
Bond markets are overbought.
Junk bonds and municipal bonds are going very scary.
Japan’s bond pile is so enormous it simply cannot go on much longer.
Since U.S. bond markets are 70 times larger than the shares, when this baby pops it could be financial Armageddon.
Equities have gained nothing for a decade. They gave it all back.
Gold has tripled in less than ten years and is rising even faster.
Consumer confidence is at new lows.
Real estate foreclosures were reported up 18% this morning. It’s getting worse.
Billionaire Wilbur Ross posted an extreme warning on commercial real estate. We said the same thing many months ago. Insurance companies holding this paper are going down, too.
Moody’s is going to report stuff ever faster; each month instead of intermittently. They do not intend to take more extreme criticisms on all of these bank and corporate failures.
The stimulus in the U.S. has stopped having any effects. Now the political manipulation idiots want another one. More paper printing and dilution with inflation and hyper-inflation results.
One of the last remaining sources of investment bank income, trading, is being capped by a federal dolt restricting pay. The good traders are going overseas. Adios bank income. All they need is Glass-Stegal and reasonable SEC enforcement. They won’t do it.
China has five big bubbles in progress. Watch for them to pop individually or collectively-credit, shares, housing, banks and real estate.
Financial stocks are headed south again after the bear market dead cat bounce and free taxpayer cash.
Bank credit is as scarce as hen’s teeth. These guys are working the spread on free government cash and not lending. New loans are pure fiction.
Borrowers qualified to borrow are cutting back credit lines and hunkering down with cash. Smart ones are shunning debt for liquidity. They know what’s coming.
GE is having a fire sale to off-load as many divisions and assets as possible to raise cash. Being a big bank (not in name but as GE Capital) they are in deep you know what. We think they could potentially fail and we give it one out of three. That would really dump ALL the markets.
CIT, the premier lender for medium and small businesses went bankrupt. Yes, they will reorganize but with what tiny previous percentage of loans being originated? Small business is credit dry as CIT funded receivables.
Dollars are oversold and will bounce a little. For the longer pull they get cut in half again.
The Canadian Dollar is rising on commodities and a government with a much better balance sheet. For the shorter term it could correct mildly but then should rise in value beyond the US dollar. Canada is best situated to weather the storm in our view.
The Swiss Franc is another fiat currency. However, it is sounder than the others and is still perceived as being a “safe and secure currency”…a place to park some cash for a rainy day.
The Euro is overbought and should be selling back to some place lower. Recently it’s been an inverse dollar trade in rallies.
Barter has begun in earnest with crude oil. Producers are finally skipping the interim paper cash or bond route as currency. China can buy oil with trade goods and so can others. Look for barter to spread rapidly.
In summary
Since USA consumers are 70% of the American economy and this economy is the world’s fiscal driver with our failing dollar covering 80% of the world’s reserves; think about this nasty combo.
U.S. consumers are saving not spending.
Consumers are unemployed to the tune of 20% in USA. It’s going to 30-35%.
Since credit is terribly expensive (29.99% on credit cards) and not available for the most part, the American economy is stalled and frozen.
Stocks are flat to down and have earned nothing for a decade.
Where is the engine of growth? Who has credit? Who has money to spend?
U.S. Dollars are sliding in value as shares are peaking and selling-off.
We are toast and the worse hits in 2010-2012; then comes World War III.
U.S. Dollar index supports at 75.00. After a return to 78.50 selling resumes.
We are expecting a mild markets’ move on technical signals at this date. Could it become more extreme? Yes, it could but it increasingly appears we get a mild correction followed by a new shares rally in precious metals and mainstream shares. We would be PM shares buyers on our technical confirmation.
Financials crashed in fall, 2008 with Lehman. Recovery began with TARP in May, 2009: During November, 2009, we’re ending a dead cat bounce with mild toppy selling this month. Precious metals and their shares are still peaking on this November 11, 2009; for the shorter term. This week most trends are in reverse and then later move to rallies. Between now and then some selling and corrections should appear. We are at a turning point in most markets with lots of choppy, sideways trading.
Keep in mind, if you own paid for stuff it will most likely remain in your hands; not in somebody else’s. That includes gold and silver. Do not get tangled-up in daily noise. Keep studying the larger view and buy precious metals after each profit-taking correction. Headwinds are building into an economic hurricane. Take care of business right now.
My dire prediction might surprise us and arrive at any time. Selling is mild now. But next summer could be the large crash. In the coming middle, look for more buying on most everything. Our personal trading year to date is up nearly 100%. Markets are giving.
Personally, I can see unbelievable opportunities to trade that we would never see again for many years. Turn these problems into opportunities. Those on the right side of the trade might get rich. Those on the other side are just victims. Stay Alert
For more Info: A/N1N1 Pandemic Toxic strain; Doctors learned why Ukrainians dying http://tinyurl.com/yjpgyb3
“Pneumonic plague occurs when Y. pestis infects the lungs. This type of plague can spread from person to person through the air. Transmission can take place if someone breathes in aerosolized bacteria, which could happen in a bioterrorist attack. ”
http://www.bt.cdc.gov/agent/plague/factsheet.asp
@Youri:
The rumour is that the killing agent in Ukraine is the pneumonic plague. Just saying.
@Mep:
@ frances – Remind me . . . where do you live?
I live in Florida. Why, Mep, do you ask?
We have now A/N1N1-California strain. Before that, “Mexico” strain H1N1 and few years ago, “Brisbane” strain:
31 October 2009, New cases of influenza virus A/N1N1-kaliforniya among Ukrainian http://tinyurl.com/ylaaass
H1N1 Tamiflu Resistance Linked to Brisbane Strain http://tinyurl.com/3ual9n
February 25, 2009: Bobby Jindal’s Republican Response
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-february-25-2009/bobby-jindal-s-republican-response
Bobby Jindal responds to Barack Obama’s speech by addressing Americans like children.
RODFL
WELCOME TO THE NEW WORLD ORDER
Doctors learned why Ukrainians dying! “A/N1N1 ” ???? http://mignews.com.ua/en/categ408/articles/378759.html
@ Mep
I’m SO excited! Just found Food Inc. online!
Thanks Mep the world is truely Free RODFL
Nice got something to watch now
Hey Dedo H’bday
Dedo, too?! Happy birthday, Dedo!
I’m SO excited! Just found Food Inc. online! Theaters around here didn’t play it when it first came out. If anyone wants to watch it, it’s here: http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/food-inc/
@Y’all
We’ve all been there!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IDWCXd8B_4
@ Youri Carma
RODFL nice one
Brown Pelicans LMAO
To Dedo:
Happy Birthday!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3lndvRhS_M
@ Youri – Cute. I’m psyched for the brown pelicans.
@ Youri Carma
I think i mentioned this before Kings and previous Rulers Figured out u could TAX the Public upto 70 % before you’d get over thrown or have a Revolution
So now they are Broke in terms of Running a Govt. they gotta pay thier Luetents. so
Its Almost a Stale mate
Now is the time its gonna get interesting over the next 2 years
The Good News
Cartoon JPG http://tinyurl.com/y94cf2y
@Y’all
I Hope Danny and Dedo are still celebrating somewheres!!!
Paul Simon – Have A Good Time (mp3)
http://tinyurl.com/yl4qp6p
‘Yesterday it was my birthday
I hung one more year on the line
I should be depressed
My life’s a mess
But I’m having a good time
Oo, I’ve been loving and loving and loving
I’m exhausted from loving so well
I should go to bed
But a voice in my head
Says “ah, what the hell”
Have a good time
Have a good time
Have a good time
Have a good time
Paranoia strikes deep in the heartland
But I think it’s all overdone
Exaggerating this and exaggerating that
They don’t have no fun
I don’t believe what I read in the papers
They’re just out to capture my dime
I ain’t worrying
And I ain’t scurrying;
I’m having a good time
Have a good time
Have a good time
Have a good time
Have a good time
Maybe I’m laughing my way to disaster
Maybe my race has been run
Maybe I’m blind to the fate of mankind
But what can be done?
So God bless the goods we was given
And God bless the u. s. of a.
And God bless our standard of livin’
Let’s keep it that way
And we’ll all have a good time’
Words & music by paul simon
If I were Iran or North Korea I Would immediately annonce Allegance to China or Russia and loose All Sovernity to China or Russia RODFL Hic
Then I wonder what USA would do
RODFL
And RODFL i would Announce it as soon as the first sight of the False Flag operation.
And the two twixt the 2
RODFL
COMPLETELY INSANE – The Netherlands: From every liter that we pay 60% is Government Tax! Now they wonna install an extra Tax on top of that for every kilometer that you drive while in fact we already pay a kilometer Tax, the 60% on gasoline. Later we get the Carbon Cap and Trade on top of that.
The Netherlands pledged late on Friday to scrap the road tax but this tax is already low cause this was already lowered in the past when they begun to tax the gasoline very heavy 70% in the past now 60%.
http://www.newscred.com/article/show/title/dutch-propose-full-scale-road-pricing-system-4afde54724440/2273311
This is Fucked Up:
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/251/story/78818.html
If Obama Truly followed a Policy of Transparecy
Bush & Cheny Shoulda been on Death Row in the First week of his Office
Hes Part of the Same bunch of Senile Idiots.
Michele Obama oooh my blood Curls when i see her
Youri:
Sorry. Won’t ask, won’t tell.
TFHL
???
The Fucking Hockey League
The Fruity Halfwit Laughs
The Frog Has Legs
To Free His Lordship
I like the last one. Thanks!
@Youri How the US Funds the Taliban
makes one broil, seeing how the oligarchs
spend tax dollars. Have you watched the
movie Syriana?
Because these Senile Idiots Bush Obama and the sorts they think they are playing a board game like monopoly Dumb Nitwits could’nt pass 5th grade.
RODFL i wonder how they gonna announce this NWO
I mean who gets up in the morning and a light bulb triggers lets Rule the world.
Why is there this urge too Rule over people.
Any Quack out there that can help me hmm err Decompose RODFL Disect this Behavior ??
Sexual Inaduqacy ,,, Impotence ?????
Has to be Inferirity Complex
Lets See they named themselves “freemasons”
So they werent free in the first Place
Hmm eerrr they were the Slaves of the Egyptian Pharos
Hmm Ahh that makes Sense
LOL i Wonder how they’ll write the History Books for Kids Explaining Sept 9/11
Well Hyn the 3 rd Plane went into a Garbage site and Dissapeard into the Ground.
RODFL
And the Pentagon had just one Camera hunni bunni
and the Pentagon Released only 5 frames Hunni bunni
RODFL
@frances
‘don’t life my writing’ mmmmhhh… nice slip… it aint the TFHL… too pretty better complexion… that sangin’ woman is quite cute!!!
@frances snoot
Can’t tell cause don’t want to get any satanistic spell. Gotto keep the upper hand in the spiritual fight. The crazies read this to you know.
OH GAG bonn.
Peter Schiff is like a tube of toothpaste which was always rolled up correctly before squirting. BORING. Max thinks we are all ants in an ant farm. Are we?
@ Danny and Joe: Happy Birthday!
@Supergeek:
That’s the tin-foil hat lady!!!
If there was a NWO i would Like Max n Peter Schiff to run it I would trust these guys Hic !!
@frances
DD disappointed dunsky…. I like your songs better!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTh3O0nTnQI
How the US Funds the Taliban http://tinyurl.com/yev8jx3
Do you think Lloyd will be there?
Protesters Plan Huge Anti-Goldman Rally In Washington, DC
Following Massive Showdown in Chicago…
Hundreds of Taxpayers to Converge on Goldman Sachs DC Headquarters Monday
National Mobilization Continues to Demand End to Multi-Billion Dollar Bonuses at Bailed Out Banks and the Too Big To Fail Doctrine, Calls for Congressional Action Now
http://tinyurl.com/yeqrxy7
* Schiff (correction)
Oh i always watch Shiff
Hope he gets Elected
I Like the way he says
“This is JUST NONSENCE”
RODFL he is very carefull RODFL n his Dad is in Jail because he refuses to pay TAX his dad says its un-constitutional True Patriot
Now I know Dedo’s.
hahahaha
Youri Carma:
What is your star sign. You pooped out and didn’t tell.
@Supergeek:
So who cares if you life my writing or not?!
For those who watch Schiff
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFv5lsQmazs&feature=player_embedded#
@ Joe
Happy Birthday
All the Best in Life & I hope luck favors you always.
Ding Ding Bring the Party on. Hic !!!! Cheers
Counterfeit gold coins:
http://www.canadian-goldcoins.com/millions-lost-from-counterfeit-coins
WE ONLY SEE JOE “HAPPY BIRTHDAY JOE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F55Ta7itFCY
@Joe
Congrats on your B-Day … do not forget to take the “DD”.
(designated driver)
You do not want to get the wrong present.
@Joe
Yeah Happy Birthday from the the gang here at maxkeiser.com.
http://tinyurl.com/yc7jydn
Trade Deficit in U.S. Increases by Most Since 1999 http://tinyurl.com/yab5n5l
HAPPY DAY JOE
@ Mike
Oh n just Watch out as part of thier End Game they Gonna Kill a Whole Lotta People Dont Know How
These Senile Eugenists have fun doing that
I Suspect thier H1 N1 Flu Vaccination was a Flop
So hmmm errrr they must be in a Think Tank mode now
at midnight.. just got back from dinner. bout to head to the bars down in DC – just checking up on the convo while waiting for my ride lol take care again guys
Joe, is it your birthday?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNiAAiSMu9Y&feature=player_embedded#
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mwFwEkYZVs&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEtqPBEpt5M&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cS6UApZHsW8&feature=player_embedded
@Snoot
Love to hear your perspective on things. Gold is valuable in a system and world that doesn’t completely go to hell. Water/Food/ Ammo are the real tangible assets that will get anything in a world gone to sh**. But Gold has always been held a valuable means of exchange and I will always bet on gold
U.S. Economy: Consumer Sentiment Unexpectedly (??? Yeah sure…) Falls http://tinyurl.com/yjd3qnn
Bair Says Using TARP as Capital Fueled Public Outrage http://tinyurl.com/ydrlkj7
Yuan ‘Straitjacket’ Risks Inflating China Bubbles http://tinyurl.com/ydf2hzz
Illya is busy digging up the endless source of abiotic oil … HAHA… hopefully Russia doesn’t believe this non-sense
@ Mike
Very Small group of people with one goal. WORLD DOMINATION
AAAAwwe Mike Dont worry these guys are Sterile
A Bunch of Dumb Nitwits
They just Senile n we gonna have a hearty Laugh when all this is over.
I Just hope we can Lynch em first.
RODFL
Mackenna’s Gold – O Ouro de Mackenna – The Movie 05/13
Tis is even funnier RODFL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y32JLpjf6L8&feature=related
I live here in New Jersey amongst hundreds of banker; Max is 100 percent correct in his analysis! Paul Krugman is a puppet like Obama, both working for a Very Small group of people with one goal. WORLD DOMINATION!
Isn’t that what Hitler wanted? Maybe he’s still alive? (In spirit?)
@Mep
watched the remaining short vids, … very good!
He has the right perception, imho.
Thankx again.
@Youri
Spandau Ballet – Gold
Oh……. that is great song! Thanks for posting that.
Went on the way back machine in my mind.
*sigh*
@Justget it right – You’re welcome. The book is incredible. I learned a whole lot of new stuff. Had a lot of fun reading it, too: i read it out loud to my guy in front of campfires on vacation, and finished reading it aloud during the 4 hour drive home. It’s definitely a book to be shared.
@ Phil – if you let that 2nd Rushkoff video keep running, there are a series of little video snippets between 5 second breaks . . . good stuff in there on currencies, free markets, etc.
Thanks again Max and Stacy, and Stuart of course for his marvellous work on the special effects.
“US trade gap widens unexpectedly”
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8359198.stm
Who’s doing the ‘expecting’ here. Not MSM economists? What the hell do the know?
Is Obama going to China for a beating?
Spandau Ballet – Gold
RODFL Where did u find this Song LOL
” But it is really wanting to appear super dumb if you pretent the world will end if you are not allowed to burn stuff (oil, gas) anymore. ”
MotherEarth:
Who won’t allow it?
@Mep Rushkoff is a master at discussing the history of corps
nice perceptive video … Thankx
“Old Turkey Buzzard Flying High” Chicken Turkey People RODFL
Mackenna’s Gold – O Ouro de Mackenna – The Movie 03/13
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwp09rU9W7s&feature=related
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA hic Ha
@ Phil – Yep . . . disgusting as hell. It was the first I ever heard of the Supreme Court ruling in favor of dispossessing people of their homes for the express interests of private development. It’s a disgrace that that ever happened. Something needs to be done, though, about corporate welfare at the state level, about tax abatements, and about all of the other loopholes that exist for corporations.
I have to give another plug for Douglas Rushkoff’s book Life Inc. . Max is right that we all need to be immediately concerned about net neutrality and copyright issues. We also need to be concerned about corporations continuing to plunder our communities. Rushkoff is a master at discussing the history of corps. and corporatism. It’s a history that everyone should know about so that we can figure out ways to start taking back our power, communities, and culture. ( Some video.)
Another 2 bitten by FDIC, banks really are a blight on humanity.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Regulators-shut-2-Fla-banks-apf-1446391981.html?x=0
I’m sorry, Paul.
I was poking fun at being called Super Dumb by Mother Earth.
It was a stab at humour.
@f snoot
Once again your exoteric ways baffle us. You clearly post for yourself.
@Mr.DorkFromCork:
I don’t know. Do you want to incorporate our names? WE could sell handbags for really dumb people.
*Get the latest in essential fashion handbags from the only exclusive outlet for those nay-saying bimbo dumbass stupid people like yourselves!*
DORK AND SNOOT
Proceeds from sales to benefit the FMBA (fascist mini-blight-association) for American OIL and natural GAS as well as COAL
Purveyors of fine fashion apparel since the Mini-Blights won American Idol!
“But it is really wanting to appear super dumb if you pretent the world will end if you are not allowed to burn stuff (oil, gas) anymore. ”
Hello? Yes, this is the hotline for the institutionally stupid. What, I’m putting you on hold. Please be sure to keep hold of the receiver and speak into the mouthpiece when my voice returns….
(soft rock music plays while the sound of mouth-breathing whisps past the mouthpiece)
I’m back. There seems to be a flux of calls at present.
Yes. HELLO? YES. HELLO? I’M CALLING TO ASK WHY WE HAVE TO STOP USING OUR HUMMER. I SAVED MY WINN DIXIE STAMPS FOR THREE YEARS TO GET THE DOUGH-RE-MEE TO PAY FOR THE SON-OF-A-BITCH VE-HICK-CLE.
Yes, well. There have been numerous Scientific Studies done showing the Greenland Ice Shelf is detaching and may splash into the ocean at any moment. Do you read?
YES. HELLO? I READ PEOPLE MAGAZINE WHEN MY AUNT BEATRICE IS DONE WITH’IT. WHAT? GREENLAND? IS THAT NEAR MEMPHIS? THEY GOT PROBLEMS WITH THEIR REFRIGERATION, MY UNCLE MERVIN GOTS HIM A BUSINESS FIXING RE-FRIG-ER-ATURS!
Sigh. I am afraid the time allotted to super dumb people is up. We gave you a few more seconds than normal, seeing as you are really quite stupid. But not institutionally stupid, you are free to continue watching whatever t.v. shows you like riddled with fascist mini-blights like yourself.
WELL. YOU DIDN’T ANSWER MY QUESTION, BUT YOU TALK A MIGHT PERTY. GUESS I’LL RUN OFF’S TO WATCH GLENN BECK. BYE!
*Click*
@Mep
Illya may be in the bars, not the the drinking type though.
@Mep ….. Eminent Domain Outrage in Connecticut: Pharmaceutical Giant Pfizer to Leave New London, Site of Major Housing Battle
http://www.democracynow.org/2009/11/13/eminent
Disgusting .. Thx , just unbelievable !
Bank-Closure Fridays :
Only 2 Banks this evening it seems …
Orion Bank Naples FL 22427 November 13, 2009 November 13, 2009
Century Bank, F.S.B. Sarasota FL 32267 November 13, 2009 November 13, 2009
http://www.fdic.gov/bank/individual/failed/banklist.html
Gold, Always believe in,,,, You got the power to know , Something I’ve could have learned. Your Indestructible, Always believe in, Gold! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OMyuyurFW0
I miss Illya . . . Illya where are you?!
Jamie Dimon op-ed: We must end too big to fail, “but that does not mean that we must somehow cap the size of financial-services firms.”
@Dork and Snoot
Granted, there where famines etc. That had a lot to do with lack of industrialization and technical advances. But it is really wanting to appear super dumb if you pretent the world will end if you are not allowed to burn stuff (oil, gas) anymore. The fact is that if you thought about it one second more you’d be condemning the oil companies and industry for not switching away form burning stuff in engines, just like you might condem a smoker for increasing your medical insurance cost because they can’t beat their habit and will need treatment later.
Casey Research : Seeds of Crisis
Featuring “Basil the Rat” from Fawlty Towers
http://www.caseyresearch.com/displayCdd.php?id=276
@ f snoot
With respect to malingering…I finally see where you’re coming from and I respect your stance.
@frances
I am stocked up and i am not in the US.
I am diversified and gold is in the mix. You fail to recognize the optionality. It is not all or nothing here. Gold alone may not save you, but it is part of the emergency kit. BTW, I do not expect or desire an official gold standard.
It is already there, defacto.
I gotta go create some CO2, its too cold.
@Y’all
but really they are so
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ru5t5fx6Hiw
@Y’all
yeah… they think they are so http://tinyurl.com/ykktwrb
Chris – Thanks . . . signed it twice and am sending it off to family and friends.
Not sure if this has been posted but you can sign Sanders’ petition here:
http://sanders.senate.gov/petition/?uid=c53f1aca-5881-403e-928b-a25980cb4e0c
I’d like to see Ron Paul get behind this also.
@ frances – Remind me . . . where do you live?
@WL:
Because, WL, I don’t think you can keep your investment against the onslaught of civil-rights violations, the hoards of starving Zombis, and the perpetual sweep of plagues.
I’d stock on ammo and guns and food and water. Go down like the Alamo with some self-respect. Not malinger over gold bars in a bestered-than-the-brightest hope.
The big boys mean business: they always have. Think of Cambodia. We are stastical blops that have been marked off.
Article on Wall Street conspiracies:
http://www.thebigmoney.com/articles/judgments/2009/11/12/biggest-wall-street-conspiracies
@frances
Why don’t you answer my question re gold?
You seem to drift when gold is discussed.
@ stacy,
yotube playlists! …would get all parts in one object and play them back to back.
You might have been aware of Goldman’s reversal of their junk kitten trade:
http://ftalphaville.ft.com/blog/2009/11/12/82986/goldman-sachs-saves-kittens-really/
I’d imagine Goldman’s were unhappy about the publicity the abandonment got them following The Villager’s original report.
It suggests investment banks are sensitive to any bad publicity in terms sufficiently simple to be understood in the popular press.
That’s why the Giant Vampire Squid image hit home and led to a PR counter-offensive, and now they seem to have been obliged to respond to the kitten story.
Perhaps the lesson is criticism of banks has to be both visual and emotive to gain traction in mass media.
@WL:
Why do you ask for answers from within the gold arena? WE can only hope for rectitude from you the Golden Ones after all the torrid abuse you have suffered in defense of the divine gold ideal!
“ugg, sorry for so many typos. i am in the dark in my gold box”
That’s okay. At least your the smart one, WL!
Yes, and then would they see truly?
“men who do not feel and see truly”
I disagree with Ruskin here. I think he speaks of the clear-eyed vision that results in the rational attainment of evil.
@MotherEarth:
I’m not against a post-industrial world. I adore John Ruskin. I think fossil fuel reliance is dirty. So, I’m in agreement with you in principal. The problematic for me is the corruption, the wars, the dirty deals: the hypocrisy of those melding politics to ecology (as Scott from Oregon put it so well). The end to me doesn’t justify the means. The end could be had through integrity to self. Why the rush willy-nilly into perdition?
Here’s a nice Ruskin passage:
And thus, in full, there are four classes:
the men who feel nothing, and therefore see truly; the men who feel strongly, think weakly, and see untruly (second order of poets); the men who feel strongly, think strongly, and see truly (first order of poets); and the men who, strong as human creatures can be, are yet submitted to influences stronger than they, and see in a sort untruly, because what they see in inconceivably above them. (this last is the condition of prophetic inspiration). (pg 68) John Ruskin: Selections from His Writings
Which men stand to lead us into the next age?
Do not men fear to feel?
@r Unemployed
I was taken aback by that comment also. Before max had arrived at the end of the sentence, I had already formed an image of chocolate licking virgins.
W.E. Pollock : Lack of machine tools
I remember even 20 years ago trying to get a MC68020 motherboard made in Germany. The only German company that could do any thing near what we wanted also did a lot of work for Siemens.
After the “electronic validation” , only 3 of the prototypes of 12 made in through the test. The German manufacturer said he had never had such a complex motherboard before.
He said the “Feinleitertechnik” ( Fine wire technology ) was only possible in Taiwan , and no German company can do it.
To this day, I very much doubt if there is a Co. in the West that has the required equipment to do this.
… and we’re talking about 20 years ago.
FWIW
Re: Bernie the socialist, the GOP NEVER refers to him as a socialist or attacks his positions in any way. IMO, they don’t do so, b/c they don’t want the public to have an accurate sense of who “socialists” are, what they believe, or what their positions are. If all of the country knew that the Independent from Vt. was a socialist, they might have a much better opinion of democratic socialism.
@motherearth
no they did not people had nasty short brutal lifes
indeed the decade before the 1850s was marked by a famine of biblical proporations in the land of the rednecks.
in responce to frances I weigh 180ib so you can multiply that by the spot price in gold
ugg, sorry for so many typos. i am in the dark in my gold box
New Marti Armsrong $5000 gold – I haven’t read it yet
http://www.scribd.com/doc/22417671/GOLD-5000-11-11-09
Decoding Lyndon LaRouche
Are we repeating 1923 Germany? It is very hard to sort through the tons of rhetoric that that LaRouche uses to what kind of end. Some of the problems defined are accurate, some of the solutions are accurate, but these factors would be identified by anyone with an objective view of the problems. The whole point might be to put Lyndon LaRouche at the center of the universe. In terms of crisis, symptoms , and solutions he (in part) stands correct. But everyone that is awake can see the same things.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_nBsdELNBs&feature=sub
Decoding Lyndon LaRouche
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_nBsdELNBs&feature=sub
@mother earth
And they would have killed off the whale population
@ Max – honest question about the “Dear Leader” comment: Can you think of any dear leader (besides maybe Chavez) who would’ve opted to DO God’s work (i.e. debt jubilee) by wiping out the $11 trillion?
I’m still listening to the show . . . my dog was very interested in the noises coming out of your bag o’ cats.
@frances
I understand the what the IMF is up to and agree with you. That doesn’t preclude myself from storing a portion of my wealth in gold among other things.
If i were to liquidate my gold now, what do you suggest I do with the proceeds? serious answer
Remember, opportunity exists between perception and realty…
@Snoot
People did pretty well without fossil fuels until halfway the eighteen hundreds…
from today’s OTE:
“… covered in chocolate and licked from head to toe by Alan Greenspan.”
Thanks for the disturbing visual, Max.
@maxkeiser.com
all this rubbing and blubbing… It is a good thing gold doesn’t tarnish… why not rename the site goldmartyrs.com!!!
They have closed minds, no matter what you say.
WL:
That is an interesting statement coming from a person who is ducktaped inside a gold box without light. The system of exchange is about to completely change. The point being, you should peek out a bit and look at what the IMF are really up to.
I am thinking of putting all my money in manure myself.
any idea of the cost per ton?
@Mr.Dork:
That first one is a rather unfortunate sentence. Reading into the second one is apt to ask you how much you weigh.
is it just me or do you think Mark Faber once worked for spectre
-or parhaps he keeps a white cat in one of his lairs
maybe thats where the goldman kittins come from
What? We have a IEFPEGCF party in the US they call themselves the Congressmen, Senators and Lobbyists.
Of course, Pez. I wouldn’t want our politicos to feel left out! But they haven’t really had as good a chance when up at bat like these guys are gonna get.
I am thinking of putting all my money in manure myself.
any idea of the cost per ton?
krugman sucks
on the edge rocks
on the edge is miles and miles and miles and miles ahead of krugman / nytimes
off topic … site to improve chat room aptitude
http://www.web-friend.com/help/lingo/chatslang.html
@Phil
I also have iron ore and fertilizer investments but they are not portable like gold. I am researching heavy rare earth investments now. That will be huge if you find the right investment vehicle.
I have argued with people since I started buying it around 2001 and $275 gold. People either get it or they don’t. Most just want to convince you that they are smarter by not holding gold. They have closed minds, no matter what you say.
Ignoramus Eurosocialist freeloading parasitical elite genocidal control freaks party?
What? We have a IEFPEGCF party in the US they call themselves the Congressmen, Senators and Lobbyists.
OTOH, why do I bother ! .. as WL rightly said.
Bon(n) Voyage !
Just be Safe People Peace Out 8th Large down
“Gold the 6,000 year old SCAM”
Invest in Stuff people use everyday
Not a Diamond Company or Else u’ll Be like Leanardo De Caprio “TIA” = Tihis Africa
@ Bonn
We get it. Now get off it.
@Bonn … people are dying in poor countries
Yes, because their leaders take on loans and bribes to build their palaces and infrastructures while burdening the country with foreign fiat debt. The US Cos, make off with hefty profits leaving the unrepayable debt.
The debt may originally not look too bad, but cumulative fiat interest makes it everntually unrepayable. So the Creditor asks for his pound of flesh … military bases, taking their natural resources for a pittance price, control of usually a dictatorship that is hooked on US$s.
OTOH, why do I bother ! .. as WL rightly said.
Bon(n) Voyage !
to all gold nonbelivers out there – gold is a monetary asset or currency . I do believe it has only limited industrial use but people and central banks consider it a valuable unit of exchange(except that American gentleman who refused to buy a maple leaf for $50)
I can never imagine myself going to my local store with daisy the cow in tow but parhaps I lack imagination or parhaps soon shops won’t exist , if so we are truely in the manure.
Unfortunately we can not buy automatic wepons where I come from ,indeed the Police force itself is in the main unarmed so I will have to reley on the christian decency of my fellow man…
how much is a AK47 on the black Market?
@ frances snoot
Crap i must be Stupid i retired at 28 playing Golf every day SUCKER
@Supergeek:
Oh.
@ Phil
Heres a useless product come to a thirdworld country use it
People are Diein of Starvation starvation not a DIET starvation n u think they care about GOLD it was fun till now
But u can continue
my sole arguement was “better invest in Steel Cement or a food company” these are things people use
RODFL
Carry on on GOLD
@Phil
Don’t tell people about gold, if they don’t get it or want it they don’t deserve it
I am still accumulating
It is useless, it should be discarded immediately
@Bonn:
“You can’t forge it
You can’t make it
You can’t “really” destroy it
It is non corrosive which is why is always shines
& last but not least : Everbody wants it”
Well, your whiskey is liquid, but I think the only thing this really applies to is water.
Now the really smart fuckers are the ones gonna tax people to breath and then tell them to drop dead when they complain. Cuz if you ain’t a’gonna pay, might as well drop dead. Pay up or don’t breath.
And no use anywhichway cuz water ain’t gonna be free either.
Sure, some people’s is gonna haffa die. That’s life when you’re controlled by ignoramus Eurosocialist freeloading parasitical elite genocidal control freaks.
@frances
er… whatever d3do said earlier…bout you being wasted… or too good or whatever… god do I have to draw you a frikkin diagram!!!
who said that everybody wants it Blimey I dont want it
Get Real give me a real argument !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
@Bonn .. “who said that ?”
I did .. just now !
You obviously took your eye off the ball.
@ Phil
Everbody wants it
Who said that
@ Phil
You can’t “really” destroy it
Really Who told u that ???
@wh
Where I come from we don’t even use the word… it’s bad luck, long tails lor ong tailed uns… what about the phrase ‘lower than a snakes ass’ come to mind… or should that be lower than a snakes ass and twice as twisted… maybe not!!!
The Day i see any sense in GOLD is the the day i go COO COO invest in Steel or Cement or something that will be used LAND Gingas Khan thouth it was good so did lotta rulers like USA illegal War in Iraq Hmm err perhaps
All rulers want is LAND
Miasma !
Awesome word.
@Bonn .. why is Gold so precious ?
You can’t forge it
You can’t make it
You can’t “really” destroy it
It is non corrosive which is why is always shines
& last but not least : Everbody wants it
OK ?
“These are ecofundamental extremists. Terrorists.”
There, There. It’s not all that bad. I’m sure MotherEarth would step over your dead carcass instead of tramping on it!
careful bonn, you might need that liver
“and why is it that we don’t care about a “rat’s” ass. why not some other rodent? if the goal is to express how little we care, why not select a life form that has even a smaller ass than a rat?”
@WhiteHunter:
Well, I don’t give a worm’s behind about gold.
Hi Everyone!
Great show Max and Stacy.
Love your work.
lol one of the movies here in india the Hero said
” i dont Care a tiny Ass of an Alligator”
RODFL Goodnite me 8 larges down i am an Alcoholic
@frances
I know, I just wanted to flush out environmentalist assassins desire that those who have a different opinion should die. They claim morality and demonize dissent.
These are ecofundamental extremists. Terrorists.
Hedge a % your cash with gold and …
this list was posted here in the past,
might want to save it, just in case.
http://thepowerhour.com/news/items_disappearfirst.htm
@Supergeek:
How do I know what I ain’t all that of when you ain’t told me what that is that I ain’t.
Does he wear ‘cravats’ Sweet Pea?
Whats-that-you-say Pa? Crabs is at the creek. You needin some for supper?
No, Steller. I’m a’lookin at this poem and is says the Eur-O-pee-uns wear cravats. That there Eu-ro..did that feller ever give you a call bout them dollars?
Pa. You done told me to give-er-up, so I did. I don’t care a’tall bout money. You’z been a’workin honest yur whole life an whatz you got to show fur it? A mule, a trailer, and Grannie’s teeth. Seems likely that’z gonna be all as well.
Well, I reckon the South gonna rise again, Sweet Pea. Them Eur-O-pee-uns ain’t so much better’n the rest of us round here. I’m gonna get me a cravat and wear’it fur supper. No run down creekside and get us some crabs! Ma’z fixin to make some okra s’well with the cornbread.
@frances
you aint all that… and d3do is just a creep!!!
I use GOLD every day it helps my Family RODFL
and why is it that we don’t care about a “rat’s” ass. why not some other rodent? if the goal is to express how little we care, why not select a life form that has even a smaller ass than a rat?
Hey bonn, you make a good point about the non utility of gold, but it doesn’t matter. Historically, man has coveted gold. This covetous nature may be psychological, I don’t know. I suspect that it is archetypal. It don’t really matter why man whores after gold; the main point is that, until the nature of man changes, he will continue to do so in varying degrees.
N fuck the gays i care a rats arse about em too
Buy a hard asset which will be USED or turn Gay and produce a Clothing Line up Called Fashion
@y’all
Hey Joe… where ya goin’ with that… wait… Happy Birthday!!!
although I already wished Danny happy birthday in advance… Happy Birthday!!!….DANNY!
Dedo… a big slobbery wet kiss and a yard of tongue… HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!… and I aint sayin anutha word to ya … cos I bet you know what I’m thinking anyaway!!!
@Bonn
Forgot one more persuader, stock up on da ammo tooooo!
@WL:
Translation service free from Snoot Inc.
“If you are upset about carbon tax, then just stop emitting carbon dioxide..”
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@Bonn —–
how many whiskeys have you had today?
You are stoked up bruddah, and I am rollin on the floor
GOLD , can we eat it, drink it, wipe your ass with it?
Man, I am stackin up on things that I can eat, drink,
keep warm, and wipe with. LOL
Sure its ok to have gold, but …
Bonn, i agree with ya dude. Have another drink and
keep um commin. HA!
GOLD gonna crash ike CRAP
Invest in steel Food or cement
I dont need Gold it doent help me
The Next Really Scary Bubble
Catherine Austin Fitts and News & Commentary, July 1, 2009 at 8:07 am
If you think the housing and credit bubble diminished your financial security and your community, or the bailouts, or the rising gas prices did as well, hold on to your hat. The worst may be yet to come. Carbon trading is gearing up to make the housing and derivatives bubbles look like target practice.
Here are some comments on H.R. 2454, the American Clean Energy and Security Act of 2009:
“economic colonization of the heartland”
-Rep. Geoff Davis (R-Kentucky)
“a scam”
-Rep. Devin Nunes (R-California)
“massive transfer of wealth”
-Rep. James Sensenbrenner (R-Wisconsin)
“Carbon markets can and will be manipulated using the same Wall Street sleights of hand that brought us the financial crisis.”
-Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-Ohio)
And from Elizabeth Kolbert’s New Yorker interview with James Hansen, NASA’s climate expert:”Hansen pointed out that the bill explicity allows for the construction of new coal plants and predicted that it would, if passed, prove close to meaningless. He said that he thought it would probably be best if the bill failed…”
Continue reading ‘The Next Really Scary Bubble’
http://solari.com/blog/?p=3360
a simple question
How do use GOLD anybody ?
@Mother earth
That makes no sense
@MAX
hahahahahaaaa…..your graphics slay me.
once again Max…..your innovations are ahead of the curve.
Its a fuckin Irony that the eiltes found a product that we dont use to back a Currency RODFL
@WL
If you are upset about carbon tax, then just stop emitting carbon dioxide..
@youri
Goldfinger was the hero and James Bond was the western financial hegemony.
No, Mr US Bond. I want you to die…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1TmeBd9338
Gold buyer today are goldfingers.
N the guys making all the money is ……. is …… is …………….
Goldman Sacks
Con Job of the whats the word bigger than century
Millinum
Fake gold bars?
http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article14996.html
“a coin with a tungsten center and gold all around it could not be detected as counterfeit by density measurement alone… We are well accustomed to exploit more innovative applications of tungsten products. Gold-plated tungsten is one of our main products.”
http://www.tungsten-alloy.com/en/alloy11.htm
interview today with Mr Gold Jim Sinclair
http://www.kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/Broadcast/Entries/2009/11/13_Jim_Sinclair.html
Remeber the ol James Bond move “Goldfinger” (1964) in which evildoer Goldfinger tries to detroy all the gold in Fort Knox so that his gold would increase in value. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0058150/
This is the reverse Goldfinger making more fake gold to decrease it. Could this be the truth? “Gold Finger – A New Take On Operation Grand Slam With A Tungsten Twist” http://tinyurl.com/yetz6qm
GOLD in my opinion = Carbon credits SCAM like Al Gore
I dont use Gold n i have never used Gold other than a decorative item
Blimey people are insane
@ Stacey @ Anyone
“Could u live without Gold ?”
Who becomes an so called “Expert” which metal becomes so called “Precious” All FUCKIN nonsence
Hi Max and Stacy,
Was throwing a bag of kittens in the river a reference to Sartre’s La Nausee?
I’m not surprised Bernie Sanders would have a capitalist solution to the banks. Socialists understand the dynamics of capitalism, while actual capitalists only seem to understand the size of their bank accounts.
Regarding Paul Krugman, although I do read him and often like what he has to say politically, he is entrenched in a very defined set of economic possibilities. I read his long overview of the divide between economists within the US regarding what went wrong with the economy that appeared in the NY Times Magazine awhile ago (saltwater versus freshwater economists). I found it remarkable and deeply disturbing that he did not include any ideas outside of the capitalist paradigm. How do you critique something without looking at ideas outside of that particular structure? It’s intellectually weak.
Finally, I would like to hear something from you two about counterfeiting of gold bars. What do you think of this?
If it was so precious Why not sell evrything n buy it
Its going up right bbbbbbut u dont know if it is a scam
RODFL
Have a good weekend fellas keep up the good fight.
Why is GOLD ooooo so precious
Please tell me why JUSTIFY too
Hmmm errr just warning people better invest in FOOD STEEL CEMENT rather than a useless metal and the HEALTH INDUSTRY
@Phil:
The world is not an ant farm. We do no exist for the interests of bankers: European or American. The Anglo-Dutch empire is doomed to fail because men invest in that which has no value, deferring that which meads value to the earth and it’s inhabitants. The words are meaningless because the actions are selfish and evil.
Hope is not an essense, an idea, a promise: it cannot be bought and sold. Hope is the way we live our lives daily: and to make the choice to align our actions with the ethics which we know is true brings joy to fruition.
What makes you tick, Phil? Why do you mead action to impulse?
Death is a living thing.
GOLD RODFL u cant use it for anything LMAO PMSL
Max lets Narrow down the problem You , Me Satcey n another chap on the Planet Earth.
how does gold decide everyting
HUH
So, the US moves to energy Independence only to find itself in rare earth dependence on China who controls 80% of world production. Heavy Rare Earths are needed for ‘green’ technology.
How is that going to work for the environmental suicide bombers
‘Oligarchs’ of Investment Banks Block Break-Up Moves, Kay Says http://tinyurl.com/ylokyvz
@frances … “”Why don’t you ever pick on European bankers,”
Are there actually any left ?
The US$ is currently the WW reserve currency and the FED controls the value of this – i.e. it’s the core of the Fiat system and the right place to start. All other Fiat currencies relate ( Xrate ) to the US$ as the clearing currency WW.
@Danny what a coincidence its my birthday as well. Happy birthday
While watching financial terrorists, Max and Stacy have enabled environmental terrorists to gain a mindhold by extorting global rents on life itself through “carbon taxes”. If you don’t pay the world will burn up in a warming hell.
Hank Paulson, Bernanke and Geithner are no different than the environmental terrorists extorting human productivity. In fact, some of them are the same actors, like Goldman Sachs and its interests in the carbon trading scheme or scam.
Tell the people
Tell the people
Is there a system developed and developing calling forth statis truth in service to the EU superstate? In what position would Max and Stacy place themselves in regard to the truth promoted in the interests of the European banking elites?
Won’t the carbon credit system Max promotes as good and necessary to the ecology promote the interests of the European bank investments?
GOLD the 6000 year old SCAM
Like i said Max n stacey where do you use gold in your daily life
Copper or Cement people still need houses STEEL
TimesOnline – Mortgage rescue programme has helped only 92 families
… Grant Shapps, Shadow Housing Minister, said in a statement that the low take-up had “little to do with a lack of necessity, with almost 11,000 approaches made to local authorities by families since January. However, even the most vulnerable are being neglected by the scheme with just one in 30 approaches by those in ‘priority need’ receiving assistance…
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/construction_and_property/article6914899.ece
Man i am betting Gold is a Farce
I would invest in Steel thats gonna be used
@Max:
Why don’t you ever pick on European bankers, like Trichet? Is Trichet innocent? Why do you assign all the evils of the world to Wall Street?
The blogging typing bit was a little blatant as well: do you really only consign value to bloggers who agree with your limited viewpoints? Are you god?
N u – tube it hmm err can i Copyright that sentance RODFL
@ Stacey @ MAx
Google Obama without a teleprompter during Election Capain “Breath analizer” RODFL
ROFL PMSL Cat Killing Graduate LOLOLOL
Iran to supply 5m new coins to gold market
Tehran: 9 hours and 27 minutes ago
Iran’s central bank plans to inject 5 million newly-minted gold coins into the domestic market in order to control rising gold coin prices, according to the official IRNA news agency.
At Thursday’s price of 2.8 million rials (about $280) for a standard gold coin in Iran, the total value of the planned intervention would amount to $1.4 billion, Irna reported on Thursday.
The price of gold coins in Iran has risen sharply in line with developments on international markets where gold bullion has risen 28 per cent this year to a record high $1,122.85 an ounce.
…
…
http://www.tradearabia.com/news/newsdetails.asp?Sn=ECO&artid=170337
While u seek Power your nose beomes Brown RODFL then it becomes Black eventually Diein inside a Black Hole RODFL High FIVE
Do slaves hate free men? Do they hate gold?
@Chalcie:
Gold does not make men free.
LOLOLOLOL that was great if i say so my self RODFL
RODFL PMSL Max u are too good I cant get enough RODFL I bet we are gonna be Laughing at this 10 years down the line HopeFULLY
after we indicte them cause Surely they also have no CLue what they Doing cause all of em have BROWN noses
How do u get a Brown nose RODFL ask a Dog
You Lick ASS
Do slaves hate free men? Do they hate gold?
@ Stacey
@Bonn – you are supposed to save that for deep Armaggedon
HUH ?? didnt get you
HAPPPPY BIRTHDAY TOO YOU DANNY
and post 30 really sucks Joints get weak
Congrates
OFC i dont like birthdays it just reminds me how much time i got
Man i use to bench press 160 pounds so easily when i was 23 now i doubt i can do 10 push ups
@Phil – there will be lots of those tungsten like stories, the higher gold goes / dollar sinks; some of them will be real though; all bull markets bring out the con men and unfortunately there are very few barriers to entry in defrauding most markets these days
@Max&Stacy .. nice show .. James Turk, good guest.
( saw it already on YT )
He reckons it is “private” investors buying the physical stuff ?
Nice trend .. hope there’s nothing left for the banks !
PS: @Max
Do you believe those Tungsten stories ?
Designed to make people sell their Gold in panic maybe ?
@Bonn – you are supposed to save that for deep Armaggedon; @Phil – I think Danny said he was 24!!!! Must be nice.
Hi y’all on my 5th Large of Whiskys hic
@Danny – yes! I’m so sorry; happy birthday!!! We were at studio all day today doing three interviews! Plus prepping for recording the first Keiser Report on Monday, lots of new equipment, booking guest, etc. But I did think of you on your birthday, thought rising gold price was your present
@Danny .. Happy Birthday .. how old are you now ?
James Turk – cool.
Hey Stacy, didn’t even get a happy birthday!? C’mon!