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Out here in West Texas I have my laying hens, couple of angus (cows for you city folk), few goats and a pretty decent garden and a way to defend them thats what the price of gold, bailouts and a corrupt goverment tells me. I listened to Jim Rogers, Peter Boy among others along with a tad of common sense have lead me down this path. The US ,2010 and a weak leadership = chaos fairly soon.
**UK Ground Zero is North Wales**
The last line is the clincher.
……….
Bird lovers and exhibitors watched in horror as 38 prize budgies keeled over and died during a show.
Owners and organisers rushed about getting their cages outside into the fresh air as the budgerigars began plummeting from their perches.
Fanciers feared a gas leak caused the tragedy.
But after investigations by plumbers, gas workers, fire authorities and environmental health officers, there was no explanation for what happened at the village hall event in Gwynedd, North Wales.
Retired pet shop owner Dave Cottrell, 55, who lost 10 birds at the show, said: ‘I was preparing the certificates as the birds were being put in order when a steward came over and said he had a dead one.
‘Then another steward came over said he had two or three dead.
‘And within seconds a third steward said he had more dead.’
Mr Cottrell, who has 200 birds and been a fancier for 35 years, thinks a boiler or oven flue could have been temporarily blocked, forcing out fumes.
Robert Hughes, 34, – who organised the annual Gwynedd Budgerigar Society Open Show – said: ‘The birds were spread across the hall.
‘Five minutes after the first one died eleven more had gone, one was mine.
‘We made the decision to get everything out of the hall because we had 350 cages so we saved a lot of birds.’
Small birds are especially vulnerable because of their tiny, sensitive respiratory systems.
Canaries were traditionally used by miners to test whether there were dangerous levels of carbon monoxide below ground.
Mr Hughes said: ‘Nobody in the community has seen nor heard anything like this before. The hall has been given the all clear.
‘It’s bizarre. It has been really difficult to get over it.
‘It takes a year to organise the show and it’s a lot of work – but that’s nothing compared to how you feel for some of the people who lost birds.’
A vet carried out checks on two casualties revealing they died from congestion and haemorrhaging of the lungs.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1228218/Fumes-riddle-prize-budgies-drop-dead-perches-horrified-judges.html#ixzz0X3RxvdR1
Thanks Merci!
@everyone
other thread (obama and chinese students) has story about small birds in UK dying of a hemorrhagic lung disease
Uh oh
I do have 2 finches so I won’t be needing to borrow any small animals.
@frances
de nada… pic of cover!!!
http://tinyurl.com/ygwqhyf
@marietta
Here’s Jane Burgermeister on a 10 minute youtube….. no mention of UFOs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rq7VTqZBLnI&feature=related
@SupergeeK
Thanks ever so much for the lovely recording.
I’ve reconsidered about venturing out of the Florida country: so we’z darn near ready to comeover to the JollyOle’ for tea: yes, me and my clan!
Just a’gettin ready to fire up the ve-hick-cle.
http://www.joe-ks.com/archives_aug2009/RedneckFamilyCar.jpg
@frances
er… dug this out a couple a nights ago but kept missn’ ya!!!
The Nonsense Verse Of Edward Lear (mp3)
http://tinyurl.com/ya9um5v
@marietta “I would say buy a small animal, tie it arount your neck. If it dies, start taking antibiotics”
yeah! LOL mouse organ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9nGyPz9uT0
@Supergeek:
Shoot. Nothing doing. You’ll start a’throwin’ slops again.
I’ve got four small dogs, Marietta, and two cats. You wanna borrow one? Not to mention Cleetus’s pigs.
@y’all
‘I have beer, I have soup… come over later I’ll wait’
hey… you can even bring a friend!
SUmmary of pneumonic plague:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=3996711&mesg_id=3997911
I would say buy a small animal, tie it arount your neck. If it dies, start taking antibiotics
@marietta
yeah… I haven’t got anything against people trying to protect themselves… however they see fit… but I don’t think it’s a time time to feel smug yet!!!
Link for Infowars article:
http://www.infowars.com/a-tale-of-two-stories-the-european-biowar-outbreak-and-the-censoring-of-it-by-the-mainstream-news-media/
Why did the interviewer have to mention UFOs in this interview??? I was going to show it to my husband but he ruined it.
Is camelot really working for the wrong side so they can discredit legit opinion? they always bring up ufos!!
Infowars is spreading the disinfo about the mysterious illness out of Ukraine: labeling the pathogen a virus: antedotal evidence:
“The biggest story on the Planet today is the outbreak of a very serious Advanced Biological War virus in Europe.”
right off the bat: virus
next:
“We do NOT know what disease the people were/are coming down with. We do know that doctors are describing the disease as Pneumonic Plague, or as some type of hemorrhagic fever, or as hemorrhagic influenza, or as hemorrhagic pneumonia. We know that the illness, whatever it is, does not appear to be A/H1N1. We do not know if the disease is a recombination of A/H1N1 with other viruses or some totally different virus or if it is in fact a virus. We know that the World Health Organization (WHO) has had several days to sequence the genes of the disease but has failed to release this data.”
This article was supposedly written by a doctor, but if the doctors in Ukraine labeled the pathogen as pneumonic plague, then it is caused by a bacterial agent. The paragraph combines information in an obfuscation of real medical reality. Why label the pathogen in the first paragraph as a virus and then relay no surety of the label in this paragraph?
But the most ridiculous sentence:
“We do not know what effective treatments are for this illness”
Really?
I have the jane burgermeister interview playing in the back ground and i want to crawl under the floor boards
@supergeek
You are soooo right. I cant’ wrap my head around dual discussions of 90% lethal govt. sponsored bioterrorism and the best way to invest in gold. This is how people go insane.
@Y’all
Yay I just made some more money, gold is great… whooo my money feels ‘awesome’ yeah… making money is ‘exciting’ er… doesn’t sound much different from the sad bankers with their… greed is good bullshit!!!
Can recovery and credit crunch coexist? James Saft Reuter columnist http://tinyurl.com/y9slm6t
thanks Stacy, as we speak Gold is impulsing upwards again on 1 and 5 minute candles. A significant target of 1173 area awaits now. My problem is if I don’t take delivery of gold I only hold a certificate with numbers on it as a guarantee and if I take delivery I have the insurance and storage problem. I will take the plunge no doubt but right now we should get a pullback after 1170 area methinks. Too much chatter, too much frenzy, should mark a temporary top.
Food short for 14.6 pct of U.S. households: gov’t http://tinyurl.com/ybdbhrs
INterview with jane burgermeister by camelot:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PelTWCUmTsU
Sorry if already discussed
U.S. economists cut H1 2010 growth outlook: Fed survey http://tinyurl.com/ydrofm6
Fed’s Hoenig says significant weakness in economy http://tinyurl.com/y8ulq6g
@Super,……damn,…now you tell me!!
@s.herbert
yeah…. and spit don’t make babies!!!
Regarding the price of gold, to me it is one hard asset of many, albeit an exciting one. The question is, are other metals and commodities also increasing in price?
- Copper has doubled in price over the past year.
- Nickel has doubled over the past year but is recently down.
- Silicon is the same as it was 6 months ago but over last year.
- Aluminum is a little above where it was a year ago.
- Iron ore is down from a year ago.
- Wheat is the same as a year ago.
- Crude oil is down.
http://www.steelonthenet.com/commodity_prices.html
http://www.metalprices.com/FreeSite/metals/nickelalloy/nickelalloy.asp
http://futures.tradingcharts.com/chart/CW/W
@buddhabob – well I forget in which vault CEF metals are held; but it is in Canada and they have never confiscated gold before; of course past performance is no guarantee of future performance; with goldmoney, you can take physical delivery of your gold, you should have to pay the fabrication fee; their gold is held in either London or Zurich, your choice
thanks Stacey, I didn’t know that but should have. It is a decent trading vehicle with relatively low beta compared to GDX and UGL. I will buy in very soon as once price is discounted it should play catchup soon enough.
I have a friend who buys only CEF because they actually own the precious metal and he feels it is easier and as good as a certificate of ownership with say a goldmoney or some other outfit. I am not so sure about that. What happens in the event of an implosion or a price run in Gold to 3,000. would the banksters possibly step in and attempt to halt trading in a CEF, could they try to launch an attack on it? Is it that much different from owning the real stuff ?
any comments anyone? best,bb
I learn more in 15min on this site…. WOW
@Y’all
new show told ya maaan!!!
@Y’all
ecological too!!!!…. wish in one hand and shit in the other… and see which one gets filled first!!!!
Marietta,
Ask your husband about Aqua Regia. If anyone is worried about their gold being seized, you can dissolve it in Aqua Regia, then put it on the shelf & no one will notice. This worked against the Nazis: two chemists hid their Nobel Prizes this way.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aqua_regia#History
@buddhabob – CEF sank because they announced a new offering last week; every time they offer new shares, it sinks in such a way that it trades at a discount; they use the proceeds from sales to buy new gold and silver
@Frances,…You can pay by installments apparently !
And you’ve a choice,..silver, gold or platinum,…: )
good huh ?
@Stacy:
Ellohay omfray ethay “agdray ueenqay”!
CEF behaving strangely today. It should be way up but is lower than when price of both gold and silver was lower 10 days ago. They must also hold a hedge on their physical holdings and may have gotten caught on the boner up in price today.
I sold silver this morning and am waiting for a rinse down. Who knows? I am just Robin Hooding the treacherous financial markets and then reinvesting in the real stuff. I hate the banks so trading in gold and silver is an excellent way to move against them if one is lucky and nimble but it is not easy. We could see a move very soon to 1173 area and if this is the case than silver could quickly move up again as well, all depends on the close today if they hold these levels.
Ultimately for all the blogging and the rage, the very best way to hurt the banksters and end their reign of terror is to buy and own precious metal. It is Kryptonite to their demented Superman.
@frances snoot – I guess you could call it a trip; we recorded first ep of new show; it airs on thursday . . . will fill you in on the backstage stuff this weekend; I did notice your new hairdo earlier . . . looks hot
Is the WHO panicking?
http://theflucase.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1825%3Ais-who-panicking-signs-of-growing-instability-and-uncertainty&catid=1%3Alatest-news&Itemid=64&lang=en
if it just the 400oz gold then the rest of our gold should go up in value unless there is some among us holding 400ozers….
anybody?
@STACY:
We missed you!!! Were you on a trip?
@Dedo:
Do I haffa pay for the brain implant cuz these boob implant….the cost almost knocked my nuts off!
@Marietta:
Yes, the authoritahs have been a little odd.
But the sad thing is that the WHO has had their way with Africa for decades. We just don’t want to take the same medicine/poison.
And i’m probably using the word “hedge ” improperly. I just mean that if all the gold is counterfeit, at least there is silver . The fund can’t go to zero.
(unless the silver is counterfeit too) Gulp!
@phil
you are correct
We just bought a new clothes washer with a 1 oz silver bar in it to act as an antibacterial. This is expected to last 3000-5000 wash cycles.
It actually works well
Thanks stacy.
That goes to show you how good i am at financial things!
Maybe I should stick to the microbiology.
@marietta – CEF is not an ETF; it is a fund that buys and holds physical gold and silver (it also holds some cash)
@Zebra .. “How does its cost compare to antibacterials though?”
Peanuts !
2 x 1 gram anode/cathode wil last for years !
Buy some books and check out my links posted earlier.
@marietta … LOL , your disclaimer !!!
Yes, we are of course only talking about CS for experimental use .. not as an antibiotic !
And CEF is hedged with about 50% silver
interesting point about colloidal silver.
Apparently it is used sometimes still in bandages for burn victims as a non-specific anti-bacterial.
How does its cost compare to antibacterials though? Especially as the price of silver is going to the moon!
Carbon credits are the commodification of life itself.
The ultimate usury system for the oligarchs and governments. Complete control over life to be harvested.
It not about saving the planet, it is about enslaving the planet.
@Dedo – you mean that @frances hasn’t had her chip implanted yet? I guess the pink hair gives her away . . .
someone mentioned etfs earlier. I put some money in CEF, a gold and silver etf from Central Fund of Canada. Gold bugs on the net actually said it was an ETF of precious metals that you could trust.
I do have an email to them (Friday )where I ask if they have checked their holdings for tungsten . haven’t heard back yet
@Frances,..I don’t know why you keep grumbling,. I mean,.once you’ve got your brain chip implanted, you’ll be right as rain!! : )
@Youri:
Well, carbon credits aren’t absolutely nothing as much as the space for something which hasn’t yet been created: a debit.
“This is who is behind it all! This is yet another MASSIVE PONZI SCHEME! The exact same global financial criminals will be selling absolutely nothing (carbon credits?)”
It’s based on something which is the appropriation of man’s breath. Nasty. (Oh and animal-based food production and industrial output)
Really interesting links!!!
Live spot gold, silver, platinum. palladium and oil breaking out higher
http://www.usagold.com/live.html
Do realize that I would use CS as a last measure. Stock piling antibiotics would be best and use them as long as they are effective. if no longer effective, and only thing left is CS vs. death then of course go with CS.
Disclaimer: (like they do at CNBC)
I am not an MD. These are personal thoughts not to be taken as advice!
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@dedo
you missed the part where I bent over and kissed my arce goodbye!
DOW is almost at 10,400 . . . all hail the “economic recovery”!
@WL … Silver short squeeze
Thx for the link.
Rothschild, E3 launch carbon credit investment fund (Reuters) http://tinyurl.com/ylrncny
Global warming scam, Rothschild to take the lead in carbon credit trading http://tinyurl.com/yhfw6cp
Silver short squeeze
One need look no further than the Silver futures to see just how strange the markets are right now.
October Bank Report – 2 US Banks are short 38,375 Silver Contracts. This is 29.1% of all Commercial Short Positions (91,723). Total Contracts: 131,801. Why does this matter?
1. Traders are supposed to be limited to 6,000 total positions in the futures market. Even if you divide the contracts evenly, both banks (which of course remain unnamed by COMEX) would be short 19,000+ or more than 3 times the position that “normal” traders can possess. That gives these two banks three times the clout that you or I could possibly possess.
2. Short position is 191 Moz of Silver sold short. That is almost a third of the entire YEARLY world production of silver sold short by two US banks. You decide what kind of an effect that would have on prices.
3. Total Contracts cover 659 Moz of Silver. World Production last year was 670 Moz.
4. Commercial Short Position of 91,723 is 458 Moz. Commercial Shorts were 82.4% of all short positions in the COMEX. If that doesn’t represent manipulation, I’m not sure what does.
5. The Bank Participation Report is an increase of 8500 contracts short in just 30 days. That’s 42 Moz of Silver sold short at a time when Silver went from $16/oz to 17.63. I think that would qualify as applying the brakes on prices.
http://seekingalpha.com/article/167773-silver-futures-show-markets-are-acting-strangely
@marietta … ” how to convert elemental silver to a salt of silver ”
The concentration is pretty important.
There is special equipment on Ebay … costs ca. 80 Euros.
25 ppt is the norm … the “size” of the colloids is important.
Here’s a tester for 20$
http://cgi.ebay.com/HANNA-TDS1-TDS-PPM-WATER-TESTER-IONIC-SILVER-COLLOIDAL_W0QQitemZ300313917533QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item45ec1ab85d#ht_762wt_973
And here’s a generator form80 Euros in Germany
http://cgi.ebay.de/Silbergenerator-Kolloidales-Silber-colloidal-silver_W0QQitemZ400059572182QQcmdZViewItemQQptZNahrungserg%C3%A4nzungen_Wellness?hash=item5d25689fd6
What’s UP with silver?
@Dork form Cork,….someone should tell this guy, he’s got the wrong hat on!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=me1PlL7uSWE
@phil
The retail gold buyer may buy based on that tungsten gold article, but they don’t drive the price.
I don’t know if it is true, but it sure makes sense.
Even the Romans shaved their coins.
Tungsten is easily seperated from gold, just melt it, gold melts first..400 oz bars, who can even get their hands on them?
I humbly ask for pictures of bars with tungsten in them here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEgBd0YuHxc
@y’all
Max and Stacy…. recording a show, they do so many these days!!!
PhD economist Marc Faber predicts that the U.S. will launch a war to distract people from the bad economy http://tinyurl.com/ygqmnwk
I bought silver. Can I just suck on one of my bullion coins and protect myself?
Actually, my husband is a chemist and he would know how to convert elemental silver to a salt of silver
When Max wears a gold headband it is time to sell all your gold.
@dedo
things are not so bad – the possibility of global thermonuclear warfare was much higher in 1965 then today , but hey you never know
just remember to duck and cover.
@WL .. only 560 hits in last 24 hours
“tungsten filled gold”
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=opera&rls=en&as_q=tungsten+filled+gold&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&num=10&lr=&as_filetype=&ft=i&as_sitesearch=&as_qdr=d&as_rights=&as_occt=any&cr=&as_nlo=&as_nhi=&safe=images
WL
Nov 16, 2009 at 8:33 am
“Gold breakin to all time high again just like the 1970’s
Secret Max and Stacy vid
http://bit.ly/5Dnr7
”
Now I know why they are semingly absent from the forum today, they are out about Paris and doing Max’s teenage dance steps and drinking various Veblen spirits. All for a mere worthless ounce of gold.
Is there a consensus on this site that all government is corrupt, MSM are part of the machine.
Fiat money is a scam, and most education is a farce.
Quite the pickle, I’d say !!
Anyone fancy dancin’ in the street ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4XsHhPUr2Q&feature=related
@phil
No I don’t but I’ll certainly be looking into it! I’ll go through my old micro text books and let you know if they say anything about it. I don’t remember any mention but I got my degree in 1985. that’s a long time ago!
The tungsten filled gold 400oz bars story is everywhere…
http://www.financialsense.com/fsu/editorials/kirby/2009/1112.html
@marietta … ” Also, themore “basic” the antimicrobial, the much, much less likely microbes will become resistant. ”
I agree 100%
Are you aware of CS … i.e. know much about it ?
The Egyptians used it for storing their water – antibacterial !
Apparently Buffett loves WFC Bank.
I don’t !
But isn’t it strange how “his” stocks always seem to go up when they should really IMO be going down !
I meant earlier in the comment thread . . . not a comment earlier. I need sleep.
@phil
I would not doubt that there is something to silver. It would act as a nonspecific antibacterial which is more helpful when you don’t know what strain you are dealing with. Also, themore “basic” the antimicrobial, the much, much less likely microbes will become resistant.
@Y’all TnX for all the info and links.
This new Ukrainian outbreak confirmes what I already have been feeling in my gut for some time namely that they would do a viruus outbreak follow up on the harmless H1N1.
It’s strange all together if you think about the fact how much the relative harmless H1N1 has been hiped for months by the MSM like Reuters for instance and now, what seems to be a real severe pandemic case, not much is heared frrom the MSM? Very strange?
@Gold … my sister is probably kicking herself !
Normally I don’t hear from her for a while if I’ve proven her to be wrong .. she bought UK Savings Bonds when Gold was at 15000 GBP per Kilo. Now it’s nearly 22K !
@ frances – And the WHO is not acting in a scientific way. No, it’s not. They even changed the definition of what pandemic means. If you didn’t check out the videos of the nun/doctor from Spain that I linked to a comment earlier on this thread, you should. She talks ONLY about what the facts are. Check her out.
@marietta .. Oops .. ” I have written by a Dr.”
I have “read” .. of course !
@marietta …. New Answers …
How about the “old answers” like Colloidal Silver.
From the books I’ve read and some local success stories, it seems that colloidal silver attacks bacteria at the bio-chemical level rather than at the cell level. Some 600 cures are known with CS… at least, in the main book I have written by a Dr.
The fact that German hospitals are now painting their walls with silver paint ( anti-MRSE ) tells me something !!
The only sane people in this crazy world are the Keiser people!
Well kind of.
I’ve also lost 15lb. without trying
@Frances
I was operating in what I thought was a sane world, being a scientist. The irrationality of govt. policy/health policy over the last year is what sent me to the web to find new answers. That’s when i started to open my eyes. I’ve been scared sh*tless since early this summer.
Anyone have thoughts on the current Chinese lien application at the World Court on Nov 11 09? The aggrieved parties of the lien listed on Steve Quayle’s site are the Chinese authorities and Elders, and the British Monarchical Power.
http://www.stevequayle.com/News.alert/09_Money/091113.CH.lien.on.US.html
Originally, this tip came from this site:
http://www.worldreports.org/news/246_matters_come_to_an_explosive_head_for_everyone
I’m doing more research today on this tidbit.
the gold market is manipulated heavily by central banks…there is usually a drop off around 12 EST prior to the opening of the European markets…as well as 9 EST prior to the US markets opening… as matter of fact there is a chart that shows this behavior over the past 10 years…but it has been declining in strength more and more as the Central banks seem to running low on physical ans starting to have to buy more themselves as we have entered the period of the dollars fall as the world’s reserve currency.
@Marietta:
Good! We have an expert in microbiology! YES!
It could be a way to really scare us or it could be real. The point is the Global Research site should not give out medical advice. period.
And that video Youri linked is disturbing. Yes it is a huge stretch to correlate the sickness in the Ukraine and the video symbols: but it is strange that they seem so like. And to think that there really are that kind of evil people in control of things. And the WHO is not acting in a scientific way. I mean: that coroner from the Global Research article, did he shake the bones to get his answer?
@WL … Secret Max and Stacy vid
Wow …Classy … !
Gold breakin to all time high again just like the 1970′s
Secret Max and Stacy vid
http://bit.ly/5Dnr7
@frances
The spookiness of this whole thing is creeping me out too.
But there would be other species that would be effected by a bacterial strain. Bacterial strains are just not as specific as viruses.
For what it’s worth, I have a degree in microbiology.
That said, I would say definitely cover our collective asses for both scenarios regardless.
@ME
Edward J. Epstein explains the Diamond Racket and how De Beers and others Managed its Trade
http://thedailybell.com/575/Edward-Epstein-the-De-Beers-Diamond-Racket.html
Personally, I think any source assuming or reporting the assumption that the pathogen is viral and not bacterial at this point is suspect.
Here is one: and note the repetition of the word virus:
http://socioecohistory.wordpress.com/2009/11/03/ukraine-what-deadly-virus-is-gripping-the-nation-pneumonic-plague-typhus-ebola/
@ME … The same goes for diamonds doesn’t it? Hey?
NO !
Be careful with diamonds. There was a report from DailyBell recently that the diamond market has a massive surplus, but the main miners/suppliers keep the prices high by keeping that secret.
@Marietta:
It depends on whether the pathogen finds other mammals as a good host.
And I am responding at this point to the articles from our trusted sources that are completely fucked up.
That’s spooky.
@Frances,….I didn’t even read the article,..but I wanted to contribute to the frenzied activities of this forum,..: )
I don’t go a lot on middle men/women!
I think there is not enough gold and supplies are dwindeling, therefore its unwise to invest in it. The same goes for diamonds doesn’t it? Hey?
@frances
Have there been reports of dead animals in Ukraine? That would tell you if a bacterial agent was being sprayed.
Silver moving like Chris Dodd to a lobbyists dinner
$18.18
SHORT SQUEEZE
@Dedo:
So, sorry to go on about this but the article address real stupid people that believe viral diagnosis is made after the body is french-fried by disease and then only through relying on the advise of a coroner.
Here’s an article on how rapid diagnosis of viral agents is captured:
” Potentially, the benefits include the follow-
ing: (i) collection of epidemiological information for disease
control and vaccination; (ii) infection control (9); (iii) guidance
in the use of antiviral therapy (1); and (iv) the impact of a
precise etiologic diagnosis on other aspects of patient manage-
ment, e.g., antibiotic use.
The introduction of a rapid viral diagnostic service for re-
spiratory (and other viral) infections at a tertiary-care univer-
sity teaching hospital provided an opportunity to assess its
impact on clinical care. The hypothesis was that the introduc-
tion of rapid diagnosis of respiratory viral infection would
affect patient care outcomes, such as duration of hospital stay,
antibiotic use, and laboratory utilization, and would be cost-
effective even for patients not having an underlying disease.
The Queen Mary Hospital in Hong Kong is a 1,350-bed
tertiary-care and university teaching hospital with 130 acute-
care pediatric beds serving a population of 1.3 million. Pedi-
Rapid diagnosis was performed by detecting viral antigens in
nasopharyngeal aspirates by immunofluorescence techniques
(4, 10) with commercially available reagents from Dako Diag-
nostics Ltd., Bucks, United Kingdom, and Chemicon Interna-
tional Inc., Temecula, Calif. Virus culture was performed by
conventional techniques (15) at the Government Virus Unit of
the Department of Health, Hong Kong, a central public health
virology facility serving the whole of the Territory of Hong
Kong. Nasopharyngeal aspirates were inoculated onto MDCK,
HEp-2, LLC-MK2, and Vero cells and observed for 7 to 10
days for cytopathic effects or hemadsorption activity, as appro-
priate.
In a questionnaire survey, pediatricians were asked to score
the impact of viral diagnosis on clinical management on a scale
from 0 (no impact) to 9 (high impact) during year 1 compared
to during year 2 in relation to “discharging patients more
confidently” and “stopping or reducing the use of antibiotics.”
The responses were analyzed anonymously. ”
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov:80/pmc/articles/PMC229791/pdf/351579.pdf
Now, something is off when the pathogen is not only not diagnosed but face masks are advised as the preventive measure. WHO swept the antibiotics off the table, refused to test for the pathogen, and now we the bleary-eyed public are treated to outright obfuscation of truth by our trusted alternative news outlets.
@ Mongo – No!!! Fallout is a time-zombie. That game never ends! It is a good game, though.
It’s good that its up again, though the shares are still where they were when gold was $1050. Yukon-Nevada hit $0.40 a month ago and is back at $0.26 without any negative news that I’ve seen. Might have to wait for gold to consolidate at these higher levels before the shares make another decent move higher.
@Boys:
flutter flutter
What’s up with tihs? Gold.
Frankie,
Looks like you have a following.
For anybody interested in how the future plays out.. buy and play the game Fallout 3. The best real world simulator for the world in 20-30 yrs ahead!
Doomandbloom funny that I too find myself inexplicably drawn to Frances…
@DoomandGloom:
Er, Frank. That would be. Phil told me I was a “drag queen” and I decided to step out from behind my, er, limitations.
@Dedo:
Please point to me where the “virus” is identified in the article you linked. It is not.
But this medical advise is given:
“Antibiotics definitely should not be taken. Antibiotics are the reason we have such a high mortality and infection rate in this country, because people go to the pharmacy, describe their symptoms to the pharmacist and ask for drugs. They buy antibiotics, take them, this lowers their immune system and as a result they become sick. If prescriptions were required to buy these medications, like in other countries, this would not have happened. It is the ability to buy antibiotics over the counter without a prescription which has done so much harm to the State.”
Unbelievable.
“This is a viral attack that destroys the lungs.”
Dedo:
You are believing this is a viral agent because of one coroner’s report from Ukraine or because you trust the website Global Research where it was posted? The article has several inconsistencies:
Based on autopsies, we have come to the conclusion: it’s not pneumonia, but cardiopulmonary insufficiency and cardiogenic shock
That is what kills people with the pneumonic plague: caused by a BACTERIAL agent:
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/plague/DS00493/DSECTION=symptoms
“Pneumonic plague progresses rapidly and may cause respiratory failure and shock within two days of infection. If antibiotic treatment isn’t initiated within a day after signs and symptoms first appear, the infection is likely to be fatal”
It is called black death. Youri linked that video with the blacked corpse. The only way it could cause such an outbreak is through aerial transmission of the bascillis.
The blood sputum is red. That horrid video has red dancers around that women. It is freaky.
“Because people are going to pharmacies to get medicine instead of going to their doctors to be treated … No it is not pneumonic plague. It’s all nonsense … antibiotics do not help”–global research
” If antibiotic treatment isn’t initiated within a day after signs and symptoms first appear, the infection is likely to be fatal.” (Mayo clinic)
BLOODY BULLSHIT. He prescribes face masks. And it is a rumour to believe this man’s fucking word on this:
“The question of how to treat this virus is not up to me. I am a pathologist. I just found out what it is and made an exact diagnosis. It is important to provide the correct treatment based on diagnosis.” global research
IDENTIFY THE PATHOGEN FIRST.
Here are the antibiotics which work against pneumonic plague:
Streptomycin and gentamicin are the most effective drugs against plague. Other alternatives include intravenous doxycycline (Vibramycin) and chloramphenicol (Chloromycetin).
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/plague/DS00493/DSECTION=treatments-and-drugs
THe flashmob is a great way to spread a pandemic…
cant take my eyes of Frances…
There’s a systemic collapse of the financial world,.millions of folk are being killed in wars all over the world,..viruses are being developed to reduce the population further, food and water and other commodity shortages across the planet,..and folk are dancing in the street!!,..fkin’ priceless
This is sick. This online game allows you to design and then release a bioweapon. Then you watch how it spreads and how many people it kills:
http://www.addictinggames.com/pandemic2.html
If its almost too late.. then it is too late.
@pez
Laughing! Small mammals clearly confuse me!
@Y’all
watch and learn… if it aint too late!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EYAUazLI9k
just watched Dannys little vid……..
THE END IS NIGH
Douchebag Reps and Dems who got on the House floor and repeated the drug companies’ talking points in the floor speeches are being called out on Ratigan’s show.
@danny
no wonder your country is in so much trouble… that was shite!!!
@ Danny – That was fantastic! Definitely the best thing I’ve seen in a while.
Reports of night-time spraying operations in Poland and Austria.
http://theflucase.com/
Just wait until Goldfinger “Nukes” all the gold in Fort Knox. Then you’ll see the price REALLY jump!
The real danger for the euro is if indivduals/institutions borrow in the weaker states of the union in the hope that they will eventually devalue into their national currency and deposit their money in Germany/France knowing that will remain in the core currency area – however the ECB seems to be doing a good job turning off the credit spigot in the weaker euro currencys.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=16088
That’s life Jim,..but not as we know it!
Flashmob in my hometown of Cork – enjoy!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utdKjUZz-o0
A doctor in Western Ukraine who did not want to be named, said:” We have carried out post mortems on two victims and found their lungs are as black as charcoal.
“They look like they have been burned. It’s terrifying.”
Interesting Twist, UKRAINE PLAGUE – LADY GAGA I L L U M I N A T I CONNECTION: This was filmed BEFORE the OUTBREAK!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMwQUHknUgI
At the end of the vid Lady Gaga is sitting next to an outburned corps and look at her chest BURNING SPARKLES!!!!!!
Recap: Baxter: Product contained live bird flu virus, 5 March 2009, by Helen Branswell (The Canadian Press) http://www.infowars.com/baxter-product-contained-live-bird-flu-virus/
Baxter Sent Bird Flu Virus to European Labs by Error (Update2), 24 February 2009, By Michelle Fay Cortez and Jason Gale (Bloomberg) http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aTo3LbhcA75I
NEWS – GOLD OUTFLOWS indicate DOLLAR COLLAPSE since 2007
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URIhhyhmI-8&feature=sub
4:45 minutes
“My guess it’s just a new way of playing for time”
My guess is that the aquarium water is being changed from fresh to salt water and the sdrs are a way of emptying the tank without killing all the fish. Once the salt water is in the tank the fish will die due to a lack prescribed by the owners of the tank. Some fish will be bright enough to jump out of the tank: but of course the death from exposure will kill them. Then there are the fish who do jump into another viable tank called carbon credit exchange: but unfortunately the system of exchange is new and perhaps wobbly and many will not make it.
The few surviving fish were moved by the tank owners to a new tank for ‘special pretty useful’ fish, where they will delight their owners will fin wagging and coy bubble-blowing.
On November 2, Infowars Ireland reported that authorities in Kiev were spraying of “aerosolized medication” by aircraft over city.
Reports of helicopters and light airplanes spraying aerosols over Kiev, Lviv, Ternopil, and other cities throughout Ukraine are tonight flooding online forums and websites, hundreds of people have verified the reports with their own eye-witness accounts.
http://theflucase.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1548%3Apanic-in-ukraine-as-martial-law-looms-reports-infowars-ireland&catid=41%3Ahi
@y’all
er double dutch… that’s about right… the award for the most repitition and not reading the comments is split between two people from the same part of You Rope!!!
@PaulH … As ironic as it sounds, China and Russia may our allies.
I was thinking the same .
Russia + Europe + China = older and wiser nations with long histories and experience of wars on their own soil
America … the “New Rich” … that have not yet had a taste of the experience of their country becoming demolished by needless wars. ( the War of Independence was mild compared to the terrors of war that the “old world” has experienced )
@A new vaccine we haven’t heard of? I believe colloidial silver is our best bet.
Yes .. I’m into CS as well.
Banned in Germany , so that the Pharma Industry can sell their “expensive” antibiotics etc.
I’d use the word fungible but MotherEarth sprouts nosehairs over that word for some reason.
“I thought I’d just explained that ?”
@Phil:
Well, no. You said that the assets in Germany became priceless (in Reichmarks) during the hyperinflationary event preceding the second world war. At the time the international monetary system was not collapsing. According to George Soros (eeech) the international financial system is moribund.
Are you indicating you disagree with George Soros? If not, then my question is this:
What will the liquidity (exchange within an international system of exchange outside barter) of gold be in a new system of exchange where forex reserves are modified through sdrs and the unit of exchange is the carbon credit?
I’m also checking out the Ukraine situation. A couple of things:
1) not buying the whole Joseph Moshe story yet. The scientist, Moshe Bar-Joseph is retired. Here is a side-by-side picture of him and the guy, Joseph Moshe, who was caught by the FBI/Secret Service: http://i31.tinypic.com/23kwu1c.jpg (Moshe Bar-Joseph would be the fella who looks like a retiree.) Unless the scientist fled from the car (there was one report of somebody bailing out of the car at one point during the chase), I see no reason to believe that the captured Moshe is, indeed, a MOSSAD microbiologist. The professor’s professional page is here: http://www.agri.gov.il/people/856.aspx
2) A timeline is needed to see whether the rumors about a “bioweapon” emerging from Ukraine really started before or after the ferrets died in the Czech Republic after receiving the vaccine materials from the Baxter lab in Ukraine. Haven’t looked into it a whole lot yet, but it looks like the ferrets died around the same time that Moshe allegedly called into that radio station (there is NO recording of this call to the station, just claims about it) to warn of a bioweapon being manufactured in Ukraine.
3) I’m listening to a nun/doctor talk about the whole swine flu and Baxter story. People here who are interested in the topic would probably wants to listen to her. Videos here: http://www.unfictional.com/joseph-moshe-mossad-bioweapon-swine-flu-vaccine-westwood
@Phil, China will have one or two things to say about the oil in the middle-east. If I live to see the days it would be interesting to see China take a whacking on the US..
@frances …The question being will the dollar collapse bring down the Euro?
Yes .. the Euro has a more precarious standing than the US$ IMO .. but for different reasons: no allegiance by the “common” people.
@And what ARE the IMF scoundrals up to with the sdr-game?
My guess it’s just a new way of playing for time .
i.e. same fiat system, just another dimension on top.
It may subdue “international discontent” between superpowers for a while, but for how long ?
Copyright exploitation will take a hit soon http://tinyurl.com/yjagm53
@Phil
IMO anyone with links to the Bilderberg Group, the Council of Foreign Relations and The Trilateral Commision are in the know.
As ironic as it sounds, China and Russia may our allies.
PS. I’ve read a few reports that this new respiratory illness has a 100% fatality rate. The question I have is ‘what are ‘they’ taking to protect themselves?’ A new vaccine we haven’t heard of? I believe colloidial silver is our best bet.
@frances snoot … What’s the use of storing anything if the dollar pricing system is going to be whacked?
I thought I’d just explained that ?
During the Cuba Crisis, jokes were going around like “If it goes nuclear, dig a hole and get in it. It won’t protect you but it’s much tidier afterwards”.
Well, we’re still here .. and whether our digital or paper money gets destroyed, it is unlikely that Gold will disappear.
Did Boris kill the squirrel? Bullwinkle’s gonna be mad.
Just look at German HI in 1923 … everything was priceless
I think the term here is not priceless but demonetized assets. At least in Reichmarks.
The question being will the dollar collapse bring down the Euro?
And what ARE the IMF scoundrals up to with the sdr-game?
Top US intelligence teams in Israel to discuss Iran
DEBKAfile Exclusive Report
November 16, 2009, 9:31 AM (GMT+02:00)
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… Sunday, Nov. 15, President Obama and Russian president Dmitry Medvedev said in Singapore that time was running out for diplomacy to resolve the crisis over Iran’s nuclear program. Medvedev added that if discussions failed to yield results, “other means” could be used.
Tehran delivered its comeback the same day: Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad declared grandiloquently: “Iran is a great world power whose strength is unlimited and on whom no other state would dare impose sanctions,” while parliament speaker Ali Larijani blasted America whom he accused of backing the Saudi bombardments killing Muslims (Shiites in Yemen). Obama is worse than George Bush, said Larijani: “His promise to change US policy toward Tehran amounts to nothing.” He flatly rejected the latest Western proposal to resolve questions about Iran’s nuclear program (overseas processing of enriched uranium) as “unimportant” and “irrational.”
@Phil:
What’s the use of storing anything if the dollar pricing system is going to be whacked?
It is okay to sit and listen to the musicians play Mozart while the Titanic sinks: but no one should charge admission.
Weekly Analogous Gold Chart
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=$GOLD&p=W&b=5&g=0&id=p34298577235&a=156853006&listNum=2&listNum=2
F6
@Fibon11235 … Bit disturbing this bio war possibilities? Whats your take on it?
Just some quick thoughts !
These are not accidents …
- Destruction of the Financial System
- 9/11
- Swine Flu Panic
- Foreign Wars
- Destruction of Civil Liberties
- etc. etc. etc ( the list is long )
…. neither are they coincidences IMO.
I’m still only at page 200 of Crossing the Rubicon ( after many other book distractions ), but from what I’ve read so far, nothing surprises me in terms of what the US MIC is capable of.
I think people like CA Fitts, Mike Ruppert, William Black, Celente and Max & many others we know of are on the right track.
Whether the PTB intends a total Armagheddon … I doubt it, but just enough to secure total power over the world’s resources and to make sure the Empire remains in place. Their progress is only possible with the help of US Corporatization and corrupt Monopolies.
The next 5-10 years will be extremely interesting and hopefully not as bad as it looks like it’s going to be.
My thoughts are :
- how far and wide does this Web of Corrupt extend .. WW ?
- are politicians of other nations “in the know” or simply naive ?
- how extreme will the WW polarization into US , Europe and Asia become ?
- will Russia become the (short term) energy King for Europe as well as Asia ? ..
- … or will the US suceed in this chess game ?
( I am presuming that the US will proclaim most of the ME Oil as it’s own territory soon, except Iran maybe )
@Frances @Merci
It has begun. Preparation is vital.
Their hand has been show. The vaccine test that killed the squirrel showed their hand.
The plan was to make sure that key medical staff went first (compulsary vaccinations to lower their immune system with squalene). This is the viral component.
Then realease the plague (bacterial). Even without a lowered immune system the plague will devastate.
Man-made global warming is real. They’ve know that for decades. A planet of 7 billion people cannot lower carbon emissions.
A planet of 500,000 can – and they can then use gold as a new currency.
My approach for survival is two-fold.
1. Don’t die. Boost your immune system as much as possible. Cut out sugar and take viamin D3 supplements. Then fight the plague with colloidial silver (scientifically proven to work). Colloidial siver has been called ‘a second immune system. You can take it every day – and it can be given to someone who has already fallen ill to make them better. Their is a reason the upper classes were healthier than most of their population in the old days – they drank and ate from silver cups, plates and knives. Taken in too large quantities it turn the blood a silvery colour. Hence ‘blue-blood..Colloidial silver is safe. It’s simply been treated the same way as hemp – an enemy of industrial profits. You can make it yourself if you have pure silver – http://bit.ly/3KHvr4. Do NOT use sterling silver as it has nickel in it, which is toxic.
2. Stay alive. Supermarkets will empty quickly when panic sets in. Start storing that will last and consider plans to move to an unpopulated area where you will be less exposed to infection and rioting. Buy a fishing rod. You will be living off-grid.
If hoping that they won’t come visiting afterwards to shoot me.
I watched 2012 yesterday. State-of-the art PR. The fundies get rapture, the new-agers get mayan prophecy. Everyone else runs around disease-ridden and hungry.
‘They’ are sociopaths who want the world to themselves.
Prepare!
H1N1 UKRANIAN MUTATION – THE FULL STORY – H1N1 VACCINE IS A BIOWEAPON http://eclipptv.com/viewVideo.php?video_id=8239
Youri:
Did you read any of the comments on your ‘russian flu’ link… quite a lot of dissenting voices…
For perspective, the mortality rate for plague is 60%. The moretality for this condition was 100%, so millions infected can’t be the deadly strain, its the mild h1n1..
Have there been any reports of animals dying from the epidemic? That would give you a hint that it’s bacterial. If there was aerosol spraying and infection was via the lungs, animals would not be spared.
@phil
Bit disturbing this bio war possibilities? Whats your take on it?
Welcome to the New World Order
MILLION HIT BY ‘PLAGUE WORSE THAN SWINE FLU’ http://tinyurl.com/yhkxdst
@Merci:
Note how most news sources, even alternative, insist on labeling the causative agent viral. Here’s an alternative view (rumour perhaps):
http://www.kavkazcenter.com/eng/content/2009/11/02/11155.shtml
@frances … Isn’t it true that price is no longer an indication of value for gold?
Do you mean it’s “priceless” ?
Just look at German HI in 1923 … everything was priceless , and fiat money was burnt to keep warm … “solid wood” cost a fortune in Reichmarks.
Whther the PTB keep the old system or bring a new, my guess is that the “risk” of holding Gold as opposed to anything else is pretty small. Or, do you want to store 1000 Oil Barrels in your garden ?
It’s DEFLATION! Ha ha ha ha ha.
(But if you own gold it is deflation, everything is getting cheaper in terms of gold.)
@Phil:
Isn’t it true that price is no longer an indication of value for gold?
The new Health Bill will not allow people to be treated in Emergency Rooms for the flu: control will be with those agents deigned agency by WHO and the CDC.
“Something is very wrong here.”
Bingo. Ding ding ding ding.
Did you read this Poe story, Merci?
“And now was acknowledged the presence of the Red Death. He had come like a thief in the night. And one by one dropped the revellers in the blood-bedewed halls of their revel, and died each in the despairing posture of his fall. And the life of the ebony clock went out with that of the last of the gay. And the flames of the tripods expired. And Darkness and Decay and the Red Death held illimitable dominion over all.”
http://www.online-literature.com/poe/36/
illimitable dominion: that’s about right
re: Ukranian flu
I think the only thing the daily express article proves is how crap MSM is. We all know how rushed and inaccurate most MSM articles are, so to attempt to analyze them critically is to risk madness! In most cases this is not because the paper is trying purposefully to mislead, but is a natural consequence of their aim to provide the “news” that is most likely to increase their sales / entertain. If they were told be several “sources” that it is a triply mutated frankenstein flu, then that’s what they’ll report as “truth”. Contradictory, but less interesting, statements will be ignored so as not to confuse the “story”.
Language is a virus.
Why did the first paragraph of the article state boldly that this is “a cocktail of 3 flu viruses reported to have mutated into a single pneumonic plague”?
@Merci:
Because we need to trust the WHO and Tamiflu and just get our damned vaccine. Else we are ‘conspiracy nuts’ who have a hard time understanding why Roche profit margins are so important to the nwo.
@Mother Earth
“mygodlprediction.com” ???
My prediction is god will be rising up, very soon… the apocalypse is upon us!
@snipertrader, Silver is a commodity used widely for industrial purposes alongside investers positioning themselves with silver. A good comparison with silver is the copperchart which should be used in nonjuction with goldchart to map silverprice.
Silver will go upp for several reasons. One is that the world will stop when the derivative bubble blows. When that happens, miners will find it more expensive to mine (that is probably true for most commodities), industry will use less and silver will be more attractive for use as a currency or be part of one. Silver can only go up.
My point was that there is, of course, plenty of sample to conduct analysis. This obviously would constitute an emergency and would take precedence over other issues. There has been substantial time lapse and I can see no reason (other than lies and obfuscation) for the WHO to skirt the issues and put out contradicting information.
None of what was stated rings true. One can conclude that they already know all the what, where, whys and how to treat or are intentionally hiding something else. It would not take a complicated test to determine if the disease is viral or bacterial. If bacterial, antibiotics are cheap and widely available.
Why did the first paragraph of the article state boldly that this is “a cocktail of 3 flu viruses reported to have mutated into a single pneumonic plague”?
Where did that information come from if a) tests have not been conclusive and b) not enough sample is available?
The WHO state there is no time frame for the tests???? Then they state there have been prelims, but they won’t tell us the results?
It makes no sense unless you live in Oceania-Airstrip One.
Something is very wrong here.
snipertrader
Nov 16, 2009 at 4:45 am
“@ mongo – Its interesting to note that palladium and platinum are rising alongside gold. Only silver seems to be subdued.
Any thoughts ?”
This link gives a reasoned outlook on silver:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZtjLG6in78
He also cautions about trying to trade gold for what are really “peanuts.” He does not mention the proper name for this condition which is known as a “Sold-Out Bull”
Sold Out Bull: Is the most frightening condition known in all of “Finanical-dom.”
It occurs when a bull on a market [especially a gold bug] sells his postion hoping to buy it back at a somewhat lower price. Well it never happens as the market runs-away on the upside and away from him.
After making maybe 50 points on the move, the market doubles, triples or million-tiples and he never ever again is long for the rest of the move.
Beware this species of animal, and never ever remind him of this or he will kill you: Alas A Sold-Out Bull.
@Phil:
zero link
“First we need to take the lipstick off the falling dollar pig and understand what it means. If you have $100,000.00 in your account and the dollar falls in value that $100,000.00 might buy you only $25,000.00 worth of assets.”
Do you believe that gold is ratcheting up in dollar price AND value while the assets are ratcheting up in dollar price due to a value that is constant or falling?
Why would we cheer the gold price rise and boo the falling dollar?
“Inflation is defined as the size of the monetary supply.”
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
And I’ve also noticed some of the Interview’s on the CNN and BBC which are so called live or have been conducted on a particuular day is actually 3 days old on my CNN in India. So many times i’ve already seen it on the internet way before its aired here
Like that Peice on the Oil interview
From that link to ZeroHedge:
Phil:
The guy goes on about how corrupt officials are and how he doesn’t trust ANY msm news sources and then he uses the figures from the BIS and the Treasury concerning the derivatives. That’s rather silly.
It means nothing….not any kind of a trend or a sign (foot taping) I think it just means the economy is getting better because Americans must be buying more gold jewelry and Tiffany’s must be buying it. Yes, thats whats happening..and Walmart…Walmart must be buying for the holiday season..all the crosses in Gold they sell….yes…thats it.
Should I quote bid or ask prices?
I’m working on a function for mygold prediction where you can instantly see the USD value of your metals holdings gold, silver, platinum, palladium based on your alias on mygodlprediction.com
Last time I was in Kiev in 1993 there were 24 nuclear power stations.
Apparently they were pretty dodgy back then.
Maybe its nuclear leakage again.
Just a thought.
@MotherEarth:
The causitive agent in the Ukraine flu scare may be bacterial. Why are you ruling that out?
“Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko has been touring hospitals where victims are being treated and presidential elections in January could be cancelled .
Four men and one woman have died from the flu in Lviv, said emergency hospital chief doctor Myron Borysevych. Two of the dead patients were in the 22-35 age group, with two others over 60. He diagnosed the disease as viral pneumonia.
“We have sent the analyses to Kiev. We don’t believe it’s H1N1 swine flu. Neither do we know what kind of pneumonia it is.””
So why did the NYTimes report it as HINIaswine? And why did the Tamiflu Police from WHO whosh down on the country?
Screw WHO,
can’t believe this is a fundamental move in gold. silver and gold paper diverging; either they need to go up or gold needs to go down
@ jack frost – thanks for the link..
@ mongo – Its interesting to note that palladium and platinum are rising alongside gold. Only silver seems to be subdued.
Any thoughts ?
@Phil
“new European King will emerge from France”
Could it be….Max Keiser????
@merci … thankyou !
….”This is either really poor reporting or outright lies”…
Hopefully !
The article about the virus in Ukraine has many contradictions and doesn’t make sense (unless it is specifically written to confuse/deceive).
For example;
1) President of Ukraine calls in WHO and team of 9 specialists are “carrying out” tests in Kiev and Lviv to identify the virus.
Samples sent to London for analysis.
Ukraine doctor, Borysevych states samples were obtained and sent to Kiev for analysis.
Then further down the article it states:
2) The WHO has no time frame for the results (????) although preliminary results have been obtained, “we cannot tell you what they are”.
3) The next sentence then states they (WHO) does not have enough samples to conduct conclusive tests.
The above statement alone is ridiculous. Of course they have more than enough samples. A western Ukraine doctor has already conducted post post mortems.
How can anyone report that this is “a cocktail of 3 flu viruses that have mutated into a single pneumonic plaque if they claim they have not completed analysis and that they don‘t have enough sample to conduct conclusive tests anyway?
This is either really poor reporting or outright lies and something more nefarious.
@snipertrader, patience! Silver will go exponential on Ben Bernankes panties when he gives GS the “go” to release those CDO/CDS and other crap on the world. Will probably be after the GS bonus party.
@Bonn … yes, I’ve seen that one already .. pretty amazing !
Obama presses Iran on atomic deal, Tehran defiant
http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSLF22565720091116
If the US/Israel do decide to use nukes on Iran, they will be breaking a big taboo. … and all hell will be let loose IMO.
@ Phil
Battle at Kruger
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LU8DDYz68kM
I hope we team up like em Buffaloes
RODFL
Hello Max
I can see that the dollar is loosing its hedgemony as a global currency. Gold price is rising on a daily basis the fact is people globally are loosing faith in the dollar because it is based on nothing. My fear though Max this seems that world war III is brewing on the edge.If Shangi group including China, Japan,Middleeastern countries carried out this threath by dithching the dollar as they are planning privately. The economy will fall like a elephant with a belly full of lead and so will its military complex .US Will cease to be world power. They can only maintain that power through their domestic and global Ponzi Scheem
@ Phil
From what Knowlege i have this all dates back to the God Nimrod who is now potrayed as Jesus in christianity So what the Lunatics have done is created many religions many languages “Order out of Chaos”
and they are following the Bible to certain extent
So now the Armagedon(Death by any means at a high level WW3 or Bioweapons) is comming.
and most Religions have so called predicted this.
So now they go ahead with thier stupid plan
and the rest of the world is like “WOW”
and bang NWO
thats how Britain Ruled India for 200 years
By the way i am an atheist.And i would Vote for complete Trancperacy of all Govt. bodies.
like in a town of 100 people if everyone had a gun.
Nobody would Rob.
I figure give 5 nukes to all countrys RODFL
Future History books are gonna make USA look real bad.
@Crocsc .. 2nd picture
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01523/crocport_1523555f.jpg
Crocodile attacked and killed by angry hippos
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/wildlife/6579856/Crocodile-attacked-and-killed-by-angry-hippos.html
Amazing story … see pictures.
BTW, Crocdile blood is just as amazing … it kills even the most deadly bacteria and viruses . “Natural” Immunological development to perfection of millions of years .
@phil
The french surely are inoculated against submission…
@Bonn …Though one rule of thumb applies “Dont belive your Govt.”
Curiously, the coming near future is described by Nostradamus exactly as above.
His interpreted Quattrain states that people will lose faith COMPLETELY in their Govts. and Churches roughly from 2010 ( estimated). According to him, a new European King will emerge from France, turning Europe’s back on the US/UK powers.
We seem to be going that way if things continue down this road. Brezinski must be laughing right now.
@Bonn … well said !
@ Phil
“In this Day and Age You gotta be a Financial Expert to save your money, You gotta be a Historian to see what these Lunatics are upto you gotta be an Accontant to Know & avoid Co’s that are going belly up You gotta be a chemist and biologist (Basics at least) to Protect your Health”
Though one rule of thumb applies “Dont belive your Govt.”
RODFL
Gold again went up as USD went up.
Is Gold following Euro as USD becomes irrelevant, or maybe its on its own trajectory.
Speaking of Obama in China.
“Obama presses China over rights”
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8361471.stm
He says towards the end, that “governments should reflect the will of the people and respond to their wishes”
Come again?
@Bonn … yes, saw that video already, and yes, more than probable. I don’t possess france’s ability and vocabulary to describe the disgust I have for these bastards.
Pope
Nov 16, 2009 at 1:36 am
“Gold is gap up.”
If I remember my “Joe Granville Technicals” a breakaway gap up need not be filled in, especially when it is to prices which are to ALL TIME RECORD HIGHS.
We will see a lot more gold-gaps-up in the future, soon maybe, on the order of a hundred points, I hope.
soon snipertrader according to this guy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZtjLG6in78
@Mother,….You can run,..but you can’t hide! : )
H1N1 UKRANIAN MUTATION – THE FULL STORY – H1N1 VACCINE IS A BIOWEAPON
http://eclipptv.com/viewVideo.php?video_id=8239
Robbed Blind By A Lipstick Wearing Pig
… “No one in this world, so far as I know – and I have searched the records for years, and employed agents to help me – has ever lost money by underestimating the intelligence of the great masses of the plain people.”
~ H.L. Mencken
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Each and everyday I’m amazed by the sad amount of truth held within this statement.
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/guest-post-robbed-blind-lipstick-wearing-pig
@Phil
If it’s real I’m on a plane to Mauritania..
Who would of guessed http://www.independent.ie/business/irish/bailedout-anglo-needs-836457bn-cash-but-ec-eyes-winddown-1944369.html
not our fucking finance minister thats for sure, cunt.
@Mother earth … secondary bacterial infections due to late care seeking and unhygienic circumstances in Ukraine..
Yes, I agree … more than probable.
OTOH though … they’d still better get in under control !
@phil
I’m tracking that story online, it seems the baltimore chronicle picked it up, and then the dailymail, but it does not make the story more credible than one explanation I heard, namely secondary bacterial infections due to late care seeking and unhygienic circumstances in Ukraine..
@Mep/Mother .. food & animals
Yes, the greedy corporations continue to mess around with our food chain, thinking they can “better” mother nature.
It is clear to me that this will eventually kill us all – e.g. GM contamination WW. Feeding animals on “unnatural” feed is what is IMO weakening their and our immune systems.
I suppose you all know that in Norway, there is a R&D company trying to GM-modify Cod to grow as big as sharks.
Crazy, crazy , crazy !
Ukraine news finally reaching MSM ….
MILLION HIT BY ‘PLAGUE WORSE THAN SWINE FLU’
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/140492/Million-hit-by-plague-worse-than-swine-flu-
@ Mep
You’re right, food being so closely linked to oil prices. But all commodities are going up is the interesting point, or all currencies are falling, whichever way you want to call it.
Some fish feed, for fish farms, is made from other fish. A lot of waste fish products go into fish feeds.
@mep
I agree. Its sick nobody get the relationship between oil and food. At the same time overfertilizing and killing the ocean. But the consumerdepletion model (consumerextinction model) can’t work if it imagines a limit to its application…
One more food comment: one of the most disturbing things I learned from watching Food Inc. is that we’re teaching fish to eat corn.
Zzzzzzzz…..
Is the Dollar “Good as Tungsten”?
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One month later, on May 18, 1993, Alan Greenspan made an amazing statement at a Fed meeting that has only now come to light:
“I have one other issue I’d like to throw on the table. I hesitate to do it, but let me tell you some of the issues that are involved here. If we are dealing with psychology, then the thermometers one uses to measure it have an effect. I was raising the question on the side with Governor Mullins of what would happen if the Treasury sold a little gold in this market. There’s an interesting question here because if the gold price broke in that context, the thermometer would not be just a measuring tool. It would basically affect the underlying psychology.”
–Alan Greenspan (05/18/93)
Less than three months later, on exactly Aug. 5, 1993, the (c)overt gold manipulations begin:
The appearance of the intervention in NY, repeatedly led by principal actors JP Morgan Chase and Goldman Sachs, is so marked that a particular day August 5, 1993 can be identified as the date of onset of the anomalous downward trade in gold on the NY Comex. [1]
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http://fofoa.blogspot.com/2009/11/is-dollar-good-as-tungsten.html
“Bonuses getting converted to GOLD on the sly”
and then the new Currency
1 in 6 people living on the planet are hungry . . . another reason why Obama’s nominee for Chief Agricultural Negotiator for the Office of the US Trade Rep. needs to be blocked.
http://www.opednews.com/articles/Obama-Nominates-Monsanto-R-by-Gustav-Wynn-091114-137.html
He will try to solve the problem by foisting even more GM crops onto the world.
We should change our subsidy system and wipe out the illegitimate debts of poor countries so that farmers have a fighting chance and countries can start investing in their people.
http://www.academicearth.org/courses/the-rise-of-the-superclass
@ NicAbbo77 – Food prices will definitely be going up. The price of oil keeps inching up, and analysts at places like Bank of America are predicting $100 barrel oil by 2011.
“The combination of tighter physical oil supply and demand fundamentals, loose monetary policy, and a weaker U.S. dollar are creating a growing risk for oil prices to spike above $100 a barrel as we head into 2011.”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20091116/oil-prices/
Exclusive: A Forensic Reconstruction Of Goldman’s 2008 Prop Trading http://www.zerohedge.com/article/exclusive-forensic-reconstruction-goldmans-proprietary-trading-detail-throughout-2008
I’m sure it has something to do with Obama in China.
Gold is gap up.
just bought some gold ETF…not sure if this would be safe…..lets see how it goes..
… I’ve been shot by the sniper lol
I’ve been reading about food prices
“Economic revival carries price surge risk, says UN”
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/386775ac-d24f-11de-a0f0-00144feabdc0.html
http://www.euronews.net/2009/11/16/un-sounds-alarm-over-record-world-hunger-level/
Somebody dumping dollars for gold, might also reflect Obamas bagging and pleading in Asia recent days… He must obey his chineese masters!
1st
Gonna have to tell me what’s up with that graph.
hrmm…when will silver play catch up?