FUUUUUck the earth and healing it…..the earth will be just fine when we are all long gone, dont you worry your pretty little green shoots on that my friend. All we can do is adapt or piss off at this point….there is no reverse gear…much like Evel Knievel racing toward the ramp when he knows deep inside that at the most critical point something has gone awry and there is a high probability that death is certainly better than 50% ……………he punches the throttle and has the last option of eyes wide open/shut to make….this seemingly trivial choice at the time may be the only thing that when crossing to the other side will give him the smallest chance in hell to make it out alive.Ladies and gents this is the stark reality we have before us as our betters floor the peddle……leaving us with the remnants and its those with eyes open that will determine the future course ….we must make certain that the old agendas are put to rest and not sent to the emergency room.
Here I am, Dedo. And do I have a special on holy water this week! Straight from the pissing boy fountain in Brussels and packaged for shipping out right quick. Will absolve you from your “sins” of heretical climate scoffing, but may not prevent starvation if you insist on the “right road here on out”.
Ignorance is bliss, that’s why so many people on this blog and other sites go down that happy route.
@NicAbbot:
So much for dialogue, eh? Just kick the heretical out of the ‘bright people’ grouping. And how would you know if ignorance is bliss if you haven’t tried it?
Good morning, Phil!
Yes, quite. And did you read the article by Ambrose about China and their refusal to float the yuan? Messy.
But IMO the IMF were not about making the sdr fully convertible to currency. They want a basket of privilege, like king of the currency mountain, to ride into the new financial order.
Either the Chinese are playing along for fun, or we are in for a tad bit of trouble. And Obama looked like he swallowed a toad from the photos with his ‘friends’ in China.
It is sad about the human rights records of the Chinese; especially Tibet.
@NicAbbo77 …. future civilisation puzzling over a really thin strata in the rock and thinking “whatever caused this tiny layer of high carbon and all manner of heavy metals and toxins”
I always think about some future civilisation puzzling over a really thin strata in the rock and thinking “whatever caused this tiny layer of high carbon and all manner of heavy metals and toxins” LOL
“I think it would be best to kill anyone who has even been closer than 2 km from the Fed and Ford Knox or the GS builing on Wall st. (for good measure). It would hurt some, Obama would have to visit the cemetary int the rain, but in the end it’s the best for America.”
@MotherEarth:
@Phil,…..re-read your post,..have a look at the culture creation department of any society.
Do a study on the types of folk running “Countries” and then, get back to me! : )
I only meant that we don’t know how much damage we’ve done. It could be far worse than the worst simulation. What is known is that it cannot be good. It’s not as absolute as turning a steering wheel, because we’ve never driven down this distructive road before and we don’t even know what is around the next bend. But we know it’s going to be bad.
It’s great that you are standing up to the false-doctrines and psuedo intelligence. Keep up the good work.
actually, dolphins/orcas have been observed to kill seal pups and use them for games – they bounce the dead seal between them like a soccer ball on the open sea. saw it on a documentary once. they just bounced it between themselves (dead) like ping pong, and left it there without eating it
You call Al Gore a “climate change activist”? He’s the worlds first climate change billionairre! Activists do what they do for whats right, for whats true – they aren’t swayed by mere money. Al Gore has a decided conflict of interest. For him, convincing people that climate change is a danger translates into a billion dollar income. Thats like calling Goldman Sachs a “banking regulation reform” activist, or praising Lloyd Blankfein for “doing God’s work”
This isn’t activism. This isn’t philanthropy. It’s profiteering.
@Dedo .. “Man” isn’t the problem IMO,.just a few of them,..
I’m not so sure !
It’s not just PTB types, but also the small people. Cruelty to animals seems normal for Vietnamese and Japanese for example. Warring tribes WW thought nothing of massacring their enemy’s children etc. The Americans thought nothing of destroying the bison herds to 99.9% just to kill off the Indians. etc. etc.
There are very few cultures that are innocent IMO.
We buy our meat in the supermarkets and think nothing of how it got there. If we had to raise and then slaughter these animals ourselves, I guess we would eat more consciously !
In “Nature”, animals kill what they “need” and when they need it. They do not kill for sport or fun .
Oh well … as I said, nature will have the last say, and the human race is it’s own worst enemy , i.e. doomed IMO !
I’m an optimist by nature BTW !
@Phil,..Yep,..you might have a point.
I must admit, I haven’t a clue how oil is refined, nor do I make any profit from it’s extraction or use.
We live in a culture that has been monopolized by a few, to the detriment of the many. “Man” isn’t the problem IMO,.just a few of them,.. http://www.anwr.org/features/oiluses.htm
I remember when I was 10 yrs. old, looking at the soot and smoke being churned out of the cars of the 60′s and thinking “this is wrong”.
I suppose when you are younger – and smaller, you are closer to nature; the plants, the weather, the animals.
As we get older, we move to the concrete jungle and forget the environment as we have less “time to think and reflect” when doing battle to try and (hopelessly) keep ahead of the Fiat rat race.
The planet earth probably sees the human race as a parasite that destroys every other life form. Shameful !
Let come whatever comes … I believe in nature ( rather than G*d or whatever ), and mother nature will as usual have the final word on where we are in 100 yrs.
If we ignore nature’s rules, we will pay .. it’s that simple.
whoops,.silly me,.did i say prophets,.
I meant profits,…hmm,..I’m going to have to get my alzheimer’s seen to,…any one know where the nearest pharmacy is?
“Humanity is sitting on a time bomb. If the vast majority of the
world’s scientists are right, we have just ten years to avert a
major catastrophe that could send our entire planet’s climate system
into a tail-spin of epic destruction involving extreme weather, floods,
droughts, epidemics and killer heat waves beyond anything we have
ever experienced – a catastrophe of our own making.”
- Al Gore,
An Inconvenient Truth
oh, and BTW,..(I do love this weather change game)
“I believe it is appropriate to have an ‘over-representation’ of the facts
on how dangerous it is, as a predicate for opening up the audience.”
- Al Gore,
Climate Change activist
“It doesn’t matter what is true,
it only matters what people believe is true.”
- Paul Watson,
co-founder of Greenpeace
LOL,…from the mouths of prophets,..
PS – It’s going to take us a long time just to heal our soil, so everybody do yourselves and the rest of us a favor and start seeking out local organic farmers to buy from and support.
I care rather a lot. I simply think that the direction of resources should go towards technologies and behaviours that actually count, and not lining Al Gores pockets, or allowing the “developing world” to burn exactly the same amount of carbon (tax free) that the western world would have anyway, at the expense of the peoples of the western world.
The point isn’t subtle. Remember – deep breath, big picture.
@ Mother Earth – Bookmark the documentary I linked to on the last thread & watch when you get a chance. Cuba has some good lessons for us re: how to adapt to peak oil. There is no doubt that we WILL have to adapt; I find some comfort in the thought that the changes that the majority of us will be forced to make out of absolute necessity will help the environment heal.
Nothing has changed for millenia, the arrogance of folk with the propensity to know the meaning of life and all it’s variables is astounding.
Where’s my frickin’ Priest when I need him,…
(It’s great to have so many belief systems out there though, huh!) What a choice.
Audit the FED!!
If the theory of evolution was fact,.and mans extinction was a necessary step,.. hmmm,..
Right and wrong,….up or down,..all a matter of perspective me thinks!
Audit the Fed!,. haha, very funny,..I love this site, full of funny stories.
I have not stated my views on plant species survival, so please, don’t put words in my mouth. I merely made the point that blaming global warming and CO2 on humans exclusively is intellectually disingenuous, and out of line with available facts.
The cap and trade/carbon swap legislation proposed and advocated by many governments does nothing to solve the underlying problem, yet conveniently makes a lot of money for a select group of individuals (who happen to be pushing the “man made global warming” psuedoscience). Clearly, what we need to do is bomb the Sun, and teach it a lesson for warming the Earth up so much, rather than accept the fact that some things are going to happen to the planet that we simply cannot change, and should simply learn to cope with as a species.
Take a step back. Take a deep breath. Look at the big picture. And you may in fact find that your reality does not, in fact, parrallel the absolute.
Yes we do. People never doubt what will happen if they turn the steering wheel in their car, or if they sit in an airplane, or open a can of coca cola, that’s all be though out by engineers, profesionals, scientist etc. isn’t it. Yet if they come out with a prediction on the climate everybody says ‘its only a prediction’. That is moronic. That is like that fat man screaming to get a hamburger.. But I’m wasting my time answering on an individual basis..
I come here with a tinge of bitterness, though i endeavor towards positive thinking. I just went through an unreal beatdown in Literati, leaving me with a rating of 2250.
All that being said, I go to maxkeiser.com and see that Gold went up a tad; a perfect salve.
Where’s Bonn with the Indian mythology science fiction lesson that he teaches at the Learning Annex?
You’ll never kick the psuedo-intelletuals out of their 4x4s, let alone kicking politician out of their saddles. Ignorance is bliss, that’s why so many people on this blog and other sites go down that happy route. Man’s greatest and most dangerous experiment with his own life support system will continue.
Six degrees is a big problem, sure enough. I have a lot of time for the arguements @BIll Stewart. We don’t know what will happen. This experiment could punge us into an ice age, for example. Who knows. As Bill says, don’t mess with a stable system. Too late. We broke it.
If insulting you would make you shut up it would be worth it. Apparently you have no concept of your personal dependency on plant species survival. Do you think the affected people will stay where they are? Wake up that insulted brain of yours and start living in reality.
Nice to see that my congressman is supporting the audit-the-fed bill. Too bad I’ll never vote for the fool again because of his Yes vote on the resolution to urge Obama and Sec. Clinton to view the Goldstone report as a worthless, biased POS undeserving of anyone’s further consideration.
I’ve got some great news!!,…
I’ve stopped farting,.and I’ve also decided to stop jogging or cycling to help prevent expelling any more CO2 than is absolutely necessary.
I figured, if we all refrain from eating anything high in fibre, we could make a marked improvement on the weather,..and unpleasant smells, phew!
I’ve also decided to discourage folk from bringing any more life into this world,..for the planets sake of course. (oh,.cause there’s a resource shortage also)
So, if any of you see an emaciated man walking the streets espousing the virtues of not farting and eating beans,…
Punch him in the face,..cause he’s been infected with man made weather change syndrome!! : )
Data exists that shows that thousands of years ago, the Earth was much warmer than it is now, with much higher CO2 levels than we have now, and that such phenomena have nothing to do with human activity, but rather, to do with the natural carbon and solar cycle.
It is intellectually offensive to me personally that people such as yourself decide to attribute the climate exclusively to human activity, while ignoring such evidence, and then, just to insult me a little bit more, you go along with such things as cap and trade, carbon swaps etc which are clearly – clearly! – designed to suck wealth out of people rather than adress a problem demonstrably caused by humanity.
@ME
you are a worse than moron if you think getting excited about money… isn’t a form of hell… oh yeah I forgot the money you spend goes straight to heaven!!!
========
Six degrees temperature rise is extremely likely, because of the bank supported non-cooperative commercial morons the world has so much of. That means all the extreme scenario’s will happen, and life on earth will basically become impossible..
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I am a firm believer in Global Warming in general — but there are some problems that must be understood:
Climate simulations, even the best ones — only account for 15% of the undersea volcanoes — huge CO2 emitters in their own right.
Surface volcanoes are only very recently simi-accurately accounted for.
CO2 absorption by the Sea is at best sill poorly understood, and climate simulations are out of touch ere.
The Sulphur cycle in the climate system is poorly understood.
Ten other gases, man-made — are not tracked by a single climate change simulation.
Solar forcing, and the upper atmosphere to the ionosphere is poorly accounted for in climate simulations — mainly not at all. Aroara Boaralis for example break apart NO2, N2 and O3 …
There has been no push for ‘best recommended practices at lowest cost’ — this is a potential problem of implementation regardless of what the treaties say. There is enough climate simulation data for implimentaition of 50% of best practices (below 50% costs) but this is not happening.
It is hard to make a proper call on what will happen with the climate in general, but human forcing of a quasi stable system may have unforeseen outcomes.
As a general rule, you do not perturb quasi stable systems…
Am I right that people in other currency zones, if their currency is not being destroyed, still profit from the increasing demand for gold and silver of those holding dollars. Gold prices in Kroner should really start to rise if the Swedish central bank starts buying gold.
Could there be a fallback if the dollar really goes (if you no longer can buy anyting with them?)
The funny thing about silverprice is that I am buying it with swedish krona and when silver rises dollar goes down so silverprice has been fairly stable, perhaps up a little the last days but hey Ben, keep up the dollar pounding!
Six degrees temperature rise is extremely likely, because of the bank supported non-cooperative commercial morons the world has so much of. That means all the extreme scenario’s will happen, and life on earth wil basically become impossible..
Bernanke has drawn a line in the sand over this. Paul himself has said that so many Congressmen have signed onto the bill not because of an awakening of conscience on their part, but because of increased pressure from their constituents. It would be a huge upset if Bernanke, or Frank working at his behest, didn’t manage to sabotage this somehow.
I honestly think that I used better tactics, and told better lies, to my teachers in grade school about why I didn’t do my homework, than the stuff coming out of the Fed and their bought off cronies.
Stealing my money by counterfeit is one thing, but insulting my intelligence with these crummy tactics…that’s just going too far.
I think it would be best to kill anyone who has even been closer than 2 km from the Fed and Ford Knox or the GS builing on Wall st. (for good measure). It would hurt some, Obama would have to visit the cemetary int the rain, but in the end it’s the best for America.
Maybe the solution is to make all Fed documents, transactions and other minutiae subject to a 50 year or even 80 year secrecy prevision.
I would assume the blanket application of “Top Secret” would have to be the lowest grade of secrecy permitted — even if it is for stationary orders or internal research documents checking to see that supervisors have larger desks than those they supervise.
Poof!
No audit problem.
To be blunt, in this kind of global finance crisis situation — only 80 year blanket secrecy will do. This way any and all so called “Top Secret” document producers will have died and their children will have died.
FUUUUUck the earth and healing it…..the earth will be just fine when we are all long gone, dont you worry your pretty little green shoots on that my friend. All we can do is adapt or piss off at this point….there is no reverse gear…much like Evel Knievel racing toward the ramp when he knows deep inside that at the most critical point something has gone awry and there is a high probability that death is certainly better than 50% ……………he punches the throttle and has the last option of eyes wide open/shut to make….this seemingly trivial choice at the time may be the only thing that when crossing to the other side will give him the smallest chance in hell to make it out alive.Ladies and gents this is the stark reality we have before us as our betters floor the peddle……leaving us with the remnants and its those with eyes open that will determine the future course ….we must make certain that the old agendas are put to rest and not sent to the emergency room.
@ME
‘But I’m wasting my time answering on an individual basis’
DOH!!!
Ahhh, That’s more like it!
@Frances,…..Good mornin’ to you this fine day my liege,..what bid you my master! : )
Where’s my frickin’ Priest when I need him,
Here I am, Dedo. And do I have a special on holy water this week! Straight from the pissing boy fountain in Brussels and packaged for shipping out right quick. Will absolve you from your “sins” of heretical climate scoffing, but may not prevent starvation if you insist on the “right road here on out”.
Ignorance is bliss, that’s why so many people on this blog and other sites go down that happy route.
@NicAbbot:
So much for dialogue, eh? Just kick the heretical out of the ‘bright people’ grouping. And how would you know if ignorance is bliss if you haven’t tried it?
Good morning, Phil!
Yes, quite. And did you read the article by Ambrose about China and their refusal to float the yuan? Messy.
But IMO the IMF were not about making the sdr fully convertible to currency. They want a basket of privilege, like king of the currency mountain, to ride into the new financial order.
Either the Chinese are playing along for fun, or we are in for a tad bit of trouble. And Obama looked like he swallowed a toad from the photos with his ‘friends’ in China.
It is sad about the human rights records of the Chinese; especially Tibet.
Al “Carbon” Gore is a pig.
“oh yeah I forgot the money you spend goes straight to heaven!!!”
No, Supergeek. That is only Lindsey William’s privilege. But if you take William’s advice on gold, you get a special dispensation.
@frances .. yes, we have an unstable equilibrium right now in the currency markets IMO.
As a general rule, you do not perturb quasi stable systems…
And as a specific rule don’t perturb quasi unstable ones either.
@NicAbbo77 …. future civilisation puzzling over a really thin strata in the rock and thinking “whatever caused this tiny layer of high carbon and all manner of heavy metals and toxins”
Exactly !
“Could there be a fallback if the dollar really goes (if you no longer can buy anyting with them?)”
The currency cartel will have to nixey the dollar from the currency valuation basket for this item to be a go. Europe isn’t going down with the ship.
@ Phil
I always think about some future civilisation puzzling over a really thin strata in the rock and thinking “whatever caused this tiny layer of high carbon and all manner of heavy metals and toxins” LOL
@just George,……I didn’t call him anything,….it was a cut and paste op’,..but I get what you’re saying : )
“I think it would be best to kill anyone who has even been closer than 2 km from the Fed and Ford Knox or the GS builing on Wall st. (for good measure). It would hurt some, Obama would have to visit the cemetary int the rain, but in the end it’s the best for America.”
@MotherEarth:
What about Texas?
@Phil,…..re-read your post,..have a look at the culture creation department of any society.
Do a study on the types of folk running “Countries” and then, get back to me! : )
@Mother
I only meant that we don’t know how much damage we’ve done. It could be far worse than the worst simulation. What is known is that it cannot be good. It’s not as absolute as turning a steering wheel, because we’ve never driven down this distructive road before and we don’t even know what is around the next bend. But we know it’s going to be bad.
It’s great that you are standing up to the false-doctrines and psuedo intelligence. Keep up the good work.
@ Phil
actually, dolphins/orcas have been observed to kill seal pups and use them for games – they bounce the dead seal between them like a soccer ball on the open sea. saw it on a documentary once. they just bounced it between themselves (dead) like ping pong, and left it there without eating it
@ Dedo
You call Al Gore a “climate change activist”? He’s the worlds first climate change billionairre! Activists do what they do for whats right, for whats true – they aren’t swayed by mere money. Al Gore has a decided conflict of interest. For him, convincing people that climate change is a danger translates into a billion dollar income. Thats like calling Goldman Sachs a “banking regulation reform” activist, or praising Lloyd Blankfein for “doing God’s work”
This isn’t activism. This isn’t philanthropy. It’s profiteering.
@Dedo .. “Man” isn’t the problem IMO,.just a few of them,..
I’m not so sure !
It’s not just PTB types, but also the small people. Cruelty to animals seems normal for Vietnamese and Japanese for example. Warring tribes WW thought nothing of massacring their enemy’s children etc. The Americans thought nothing of destroying the bison herds to 99.9% just to kill off the Indians. etc. etc.
There are very few cultures that are innocent IMO.
We buy our meat in the supermarkets and think nothing of how it got there. If we had to raise and then slaughter these animals ourselves, I guess we would eat more consciously !
In “Nature”, animals kill what they “need” and when they need it. They do not kill for sport or fun .
Oh well … as I said, nature will have the last say, and the human race is it’s own worst enemy , i.e. doomed IMO !
I’m an optimist by nature BTW !
@Phil,..Yep,..you might have a point.
I must admit, I haven’t a clue how oil is refined, nor do I make any profit from it’s extraction or use.
We live in a culture that has been monopolized by a few, to the detriment of the many. “Man” isn’t the problem IMO,.just a few of them,..
http://www.anwr.org/features/oiluses.htm
@Dedo
I remember when I was 10 yrs. old, looking at the soot and smoke being churned out of the cars of the 60′s and thinking “this is wrong”.
I suppose when you are younger – and smaller, you are closer to nature; the plants, the weather, the animals.
As we get older, we move to the concrete jungle and forget the environment as we have less “time to think and reflect” when doing battle to try and (hopelessly) keep ahead of the Fiat rat race.
The planet earth probably sees the human race as a parasite that destroys every other life form. Shameful !
Let come whatever comes … I believe in nature ( rather than G*d or whatever ), and mother nature will as usual have the final word on where we are in 100 yrs.
If we ignore nature’s rules, we will pay .. it’s that simple.
whoops,.silly me,.did i say prophets,.
I meant profits,…hmm,..I’m going to have to get my alzheimer’s seen to,…any one know where the nearest pharmacy is?
“Humanity is sitting on a time bomb. If the vast majority of the
world’s scientists are right, we have just ten years to avert a
major catastrophe that could send our entire planet’s climate system
into a tail-spin of epic destruction involving extreme weather, floods,
droughts, epidemics and killer heat waves beyond anything we have
ever experienced – a catastrophe of our own making.”
- Al Gore,
An Inconvenient Truth
oh, and BTW,..(I do love this weather change game)
“I believe it is appropriate to have an ‘over-representation’ of the facts
on how dangerous it is, as a predicate for opening up the audience.”
- Al Gore,
Climate Change activist
“It doesn’t matter what is true,
it only matters what people believe is true.”
- Paul Watson,
co-founder of Greenpeace
LOL,…from the mouths of prophets,..
PS – It’s going to take us a long time just to heal our soil, so everybody do yourselves and the rest of us a favor and start seeking out local organic farmers to buy from and support.
@ Mother Earth
I care rather a lot. I simply think that the direction of resources should go towards technologies and behaviours that actually count, and not lining Al Gores pockets, or allowing the “developing world” to burn exactly the same amount of carbon (tax free) that the western world would have anyway, at the expense of the peoples of the western world.
The point isn’t subtle. Remember – deep breath, big picture.
@ Mother Earth – Bookmark the documentary I linked to on the last thread & watch when you get a chance. Cuba has some good lessons for us re: how to adapt to peak oil. There is no doubt that we WILL have to adapt; I find some comfort in the thought that the changes that the majority of us will be forced to make out of absolute necessity will help the environment heal.
Nothing has changed for millenia, the arrogance of folk with the propensity to know the meaning of life and all it’s variables is astounding.
Where’s my frickin’ Priest when I need him,…
(It’s great to have so many belief systems out there though, huh!) What a choice.
Audit the FED!!
@Mother Earth @just george
You two should just go have a beer, and I mean one beer and two straws.
@Just George
You don’t care, that is what it is..You will care one day.
If the theory of evolution was fact,.and mans extinction was a necessary step,.. hmmm,..
Right and wrong,….up or down,..all a matter of perspective me thinks!
Audit the Fed!,. haha, very funny,..I love this site, full of funny stories.
@ Mother Earth
I have not stated my views on plant species survival, so please, don’t put words in my mouth. I merely made the point that blaming global warming and CO2 on humans exclusively is intellectually disingenuous, and out of line with available facts.
The cap and trade/carbon swap legislation proposed and advocated by many governments does nothing to solve the underlying problem, yet conveniently makes a lot of money for a select group of individuals (who happen to be pushing the “man made global warming” psuedoscience). Clearly, what we need to do is bomb the Sun, and teach it a lesson for warming the Earth up so much, rather than accept the fact that some things are going to happen to the planet that we simply cannot change, and should simply learn to cope with as a species.
Take a step back. Take a deep breath. Look at the big picture. And you may in fact find that your reality does not, in fact, parrallel the absolute.
@Nic
“We don’t know what will happen”…
Yes we do. People never doubt what will happen if they turn the steering wheel in their car, or if they sit in an airplane, or open a can of coca cola, that’s all be though out by engineers, profesionals, scientist etc. isn’t it. Yet if they come out with a prediction on the climate everybody says ‘its only a prediction’. That is moronic. That is like that fat man screaming to get a hamburger.. But I’m wasting my time answering on an individual basis..
I come here with a tinge of bitterness, though i endeavor towards positive thinking. I just went through an unreal beatdown in Literati, leaving me with a rating of 2250.
All that being said, I go to maxkeiser.com and see that Gold went up a tad; a perfect salve.
Where’s Bonn with the Indian mythology science fiction lesson that he teaches at the Learning Annex?
@Mother
You’ll never kick the psuedo-intelletuals out of their 4x4s, let alone kicking politician out of their saddles. Ignorance is bliss, that’s why so many people on this blog and other sites go down that happy route. Man’s greatest and most dangerous experiment with his own life support system will continue.
Six degrees is a big problem, sure enough. I have a lot of time for the arguements @BIll Stewart. We don’t know what will happen. This experiment could punge us into an ice age, for example. Who knows. As Bill says, don’t mess with a stable system. Too late. We broke it.
@Just George
If insulting you would make you shut up it would be worth it. Apparently you have no concept of your personal dependency on plant species survival. Do you think the affected people will stay where they are? Wake up that insulted brain of yours and start living in reality.
Farting and jogging and angels- oh my!
Nice to see that my congressman is supporting the audit-the-fed bill. Too bad I’ll never vote for the fool again because of his Yes vote on the resolution to urge Obama and Sec. Clinton to view the Goldstone report as a worthless, biased POS undeserving of anyone’s further consideration.
I’ve got some great news!!,…
I’ve stopped farting,.and I’ve also decided to stop jogging or cycling to help prevent expelling any more CO2 than is absolutely necessary.
I figured, if we all refrain from eating anything high in fibre, we could make a marked improvement on the weather,..and unpleasant smells, phew!
I’ve also decided to discourage folk from bringing any more life into this world,..for the planets sake of course. (oh,.cause there’s a resource shortage also)
So, if any of you see an emaciated man walking the streets espousing the virtues of not farting and eating beans,…
Punch him in the face,..cause he’s been infected with man made weather change syndrome!! : )
@ ME
Data exists that shows that thousands of years ago, the Earth was much warmer than it is now, with much higher CO2 levels than we have now, and that such phenomena have nothing to do with human activity, but rather, to do with the natural carbon and solar cycle.
It is intellectually offensive to me personally that people such as yourself decide to attribute the climate exclusively to human activity, while ignoring such evidence, and then, just to insult me a little bit more, you go along with such things as cap and trade, carbon swaps etc which are clearly – clearly! – designed to suck wealth out of people rather than adress a problem demonstrably caused by humanity.
@ME
you are a worse than moron if you think getting excited about money… isn’t a form of hell… oh yeah I forgot the money you spend goes straight to heaven!!!
@Supergeek
No, you start being harder on yourself..Do you want you or your children to live in a screaming hell ? Its time to kick the morons out of the saddle.
========
Six degrees temperature rise is extremely likely, because of the bank supported non-cooperative commercial morons the world has so much of. That means all the extreme scenario’s will happen, and life on earth will basically become impossible..
========
I am a firm believer in Global Warming in general — but there are some problems that must be understood:
Climate simulations, even the best ones — only account for 15% of the undersea volcanoes — huge CO2 emitters in their own right.
Surface volcanoes are only very recently simi-accurately accounted for.
CO2 absorption by the Sea is at best sill poorly understood, and climate simulations are out of touch ere.
The Sulphur cycle in the climate system is poorly understood.
Ten other gases, man-made — are not tracked by a single climate change simulation.
Solar forcing, and the upper atmosphere to the ionosphere is poorly accounted for in climate simulations — mainly not at all. Aroara Boaralis for example break apart NO2, N2 and O3 …
There has been no push for ‘best recommended practices at lowest cost’ — this is a potential problem of implementation regardless of what the treaties say. There is enough climate simulation data for implimentaition of 50% of best practices (below 50% costs) but this is not happening.
It is hard to make a proper call on what will happen with the climate in general, but human forcing of a quasi stable system may have unforeseen outcomes.
As a general rule, you do not perturb quasi stable systems…
@Mongo
Am I right that people in other currency zones, if their currency is not being destroyed, still profit from the increasing demand for gold and silver of those holding dollars. Gold prices in Kroner should really start to rise if the Swedish central bank starts buying gold.
Could there be a fallback if the dollar really goes (if you no longer can buy anyting with them?)
@ME
stop being so hard on yourself!!!
Mankind must be intrinsically suicidal..
The funny thing about silverprice is that I am buying it with swedish krona and when silver rises dollar goes down so silverprice has been fairly stable, perhaps up a little the last days but hey Ben, keep up the dollar pounding!
They can stop the audit but they can’t stop Gold from sounding alarms and setting new highs daily.
1146.80 now with it’s sights on 1150
What is happening to the gold? it’s rising almost straight vertically. it’s just USD $5 but still…
Six degrees temperature rise is extremely likely, because of the bank supported non-cooperative commercial morons the world has so much of. That means all the extreme scenario’s will happen, and life on earth wil basically become impossible..
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8364926.stm
Bernanke has drawn a line in the sand over this. Paul himself has said that so many Congressmen have signed onto the bill not because of an awakening of conscience on their part, but because of increased pressure from their constituents. It would be a huge upset if Bernanke, or Frank working at his behest, didn’t manage to sabotage this somehow.
Gold is at it again, above 1,146 [new record], silver moving also.
Option exparation doesn’t seem to be able to hold them down.
Question: Will gold ever trade down again, ha?
I honestly think that I used better tactics, and told better lies, to my teachers in grade school about why I didn’t do my homework, than the stuff coming out of the Fed and their bought off cronies.
Stealing my money by counterfeit is one thing, but insulting my intelligence with these crummy tactics…that’s just going too far.
Resistance is futile, you will be assimilated
I think it would be best to kill anyone who has even been closer than 2 km from the Fed and Ford Knox or the GS builing on Wall st. (for good measure). It would hurt some, Obama would have to visit the cemetary int the rain, but in the end it’s the best for America.
Maybe the solution is to make all Fed documents, transactions and other minutiae subject to a 50 year or even 80 year secrecy prevision.
I would assume the blanket application of “Top Secret” would have to be the lowest grade of secrecy permitted — even if it is for stationary orders or internal research documents checking to see that supervisors have larger desks than those they supervise.
Poof!
No audit problem.
To be blunt, in this kind of global finance crisis situation — only 80 year blanket secrecy will do. This way any and all so called “Top Secret” document producers will have died and their children will have died.
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Yeah,.I know!