@snoots…..exactly…what is held as truth from the establishment changes from day to day yr to yr. etc….and sadly we have to operate in that system depite what each of us hold to be true as individuals….only those that can endure the vasilating public truths with as much of themselves intact will prosper. Waterboarding is what waterboading is to you madame….waterboading cant take anything away from me that I dont allow to be.
What up again with Gold? Futures chart looking like buyers came in big over in Europe and elsewhere right at open. Anyone have some news or is this just the way its going to be from now on? Who knows?
Please i need ideas on whether to take possession of the precious metal I buy or just have GoldMoney store it in their vault. Some say only take delivery but then the problem of the U.S. government confiscating the bullion. Any comments on this would be most welcome. I do not like paying high premiums on vintage coins and think that a racket. I do not like having to find my own vault since who do you trust in the event of a government confiscation. But without delivery and with all the tungsten out there how do you know if what you are buying is the real deal.
@tofu cholly
I was a bit tired to appreciate your link last night… I checked it more closely and I saw youri and Mother Earth with xmas hats on eating dinner in the background, remember in 2000 there was some mad shit going down!!!
I like Frances perspective on life,..let it be.
To many control freaks out there IMO.
The thing is though,..”freedom” in a structured society is the antithesis of the system.
Which is why, those who crave it, should just keep quiet and get on with it.Try not to rattle the cage, cause the animals will get restless, and realize they are in a cage. They will claw and fight and spit, to bring you back in. : )
So to all you animals out there (you know who you are) just keep grazing. Baa baaa baaaa http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6QXQSSTJuU
just due to his erratic and single minded posts…like a stressed federal witness popping in and out of his room to get the latest update….is it here yet?
Max: Mike King Look-a-like
Stacy: cute Doe with a temper
Phil: Rock of Gilbraltar
Youri Carma: Pacific Ocean
Dedo: Shamrock
Supergeek: Emphemeral cloud
Guiseppi: Dove
MotherEarth: Staghorn deer
OP: Pit Bull
Gordo: Beach Peep birdie
WL:Fox
Will: Robin
MiniUS: Passenger Pigeon
BF.Skinner: Barn Owl
………jim………well……..mule donkey……..what else?
Mr.Cork: Draught of Ale
Dante: Hawk
Mongo: Silver-earringed Pirate
Fibon11235: Constellation
Bonn: South America tree toad
DanValley: Desert fox
JustGetItRight: Exclamation Point
Alister: Spanish Dancer
ScottfromOregon: Snowflake
Photoception: Raindrop
AdamC: Bison
Zero interest only means you don’t need to pay for your money. The fed still requires you to put up some assets for your money, but in an age of derivatives I guess that is not that hard. Inflation is caused but the increase of the money supply, not only by the availability of the money at no cost.
Brzezinski is right, I suspect the appraoch to war in Afganistan has another motive which is to disable the convetional warfare option. But a smart president that does his job right will make a deal to use the nuclear fule for domestic purposes, instead of waging war with it..
PS my comments may not have been directly attributed to the show as I only started listening… but also in relation to some of the other comments in other shows in the last few weeks. So apologies if it is a bit off! I’m continuing to listen to the show as we speak now…
You have a great show! Been listening to you guys for 2 years now. One of the only beefs I have with what you guys say is in regards to global warming… you guys are quite influential and I don’t know it’s because you guys just want to focus on finance and markets but your comments on global warming – i believe can be more constructive. The media tries to divide the camps into deniers and believers – but the crux of the scientific debate is in regards to anthroprogenic global warming and CO2 – and not those who believe or don’t believe global warming is happening. It might be… it’s not good to waste! But getting into a draconian CO2 tax – which is essentially a tax on breathing – is not going to help fund research into less poluting sources of energy – it is merely going to line the pockets of the bureacracy that levies the tax at the expense of everyone else in the name of the environment.
It’s very different to the defacating in the room analogy which though hillarious I find misleading. There is incentive for all to have a sewerage system as a means of waste disposal. There is no incentive for all to have a carbon tax as only those who can afford it will survive – a further tax on energy – READ the money powers – with more giant financial industries to support the bureacracy (at the expense of the real economy). It is not designed for the well being of the people – it is designed for the well being of the environment. Actually no – it is made to look like it is designed for the well being of the environment.
Also as you correctly point out that the whilstle is being blown on (to use a phrase you like to use) “rigged” science.
What has happened in the world of “rigged markets” and finance in the last few years and what you have helped deconstruct and explain so eloquently is now happening to the world of rigged science (and politics).
Yes its’ not good to waste. Yes coal isn’t very “clean”. Yes, petrol may be running out. But to condemn the technology and call it a pollutant when it was what has increased standards of living in the world is to bite the hand that feeds you (e.g. coal). Let’s also ask – what is the cost of not using it?
Every human innovation and invention has gone through a phase of failure. I’m sure if we keep thinking in a constructive way we can still solve our energy dilemma. Will there be failure along the way, that I’m sure. But they didn’t build the 747 overnight.
Sometimes people get caught up with good intentions and can then be easily manipulated. Let’s not confuse the environmental movement and the push for cleaner energy with climate change and a rationale for a tax on breathing. We should not scrap technology that has helped power the last century without finding the alternative for this century. More and more, it’s the same type of fear mongering that Paulson and his gang used to extort their 23 trillion from congress. Let’s not let the UN and some political, pseudo-scientific organization use the same fear mongering to extort the last remains of our freedoms and sovereignity.
Just because good feelings accompany an idea does not make it a good idea. The road to hell is paved with good intentions and history is littered with many such examples. Or maybe it was always propaganda? We’ll never trully know.
The devil is ALWAYS in the detail. There’s a financial side to this Max & Stacey – the proposed carbon taxes. I’m sure if you delve deep enough to the financial mechanics you may find the true finance, markets and scandal in this topic.
ZERO Interest is INFINITE…no beginning, no middle,no end)no hinges)…no present, no past
thats under Ideal Conditions
Unit of time is never taken into consideration
which throws Math 101 otta the window too
Inflation on 0 % interest
I mean thats what all of us are trying to preserve
“Buying Power” . Did I have more of it last year ?
RODFL PMSL
@youri
A billboard or a basic bit of software would do a better job… like I said robots… use all that time you save to actually do something more productive… get over yourself mate… you aint that special… and people aint that stupid… youri… we have an expression in my country you are just wanking off!!!
Repeat myself….I will repeat myself as much is needed to be sure that everybody gets the big picture. Donnow who was in here when I talked about it before? To reach new people you have to repeat yourself, that’s the only way.
Glad you apreciate it cause it was a lot of work. These people are realy crazy and the lie is big enough (like Hitler said) to make it very difficult to convince anybody that they are actually acting out these develish plans. The economic chaos is just one part of it unfortunately.
So, tryingb to find out who’s trying to kill you also a waste of time? Quess not. Let me be clear hear. The satanist are acting out the self fullfilling provecy of the many 2012 conspiracies.
Not only will millions of people die of hunger starvation but at the same time the evil satanist are spreading weaponized virusses all over the globe. If you don’t believe me now you will later.
So we’ve got a collusion of a global financial melt down together with genocide true the virusses and starvation which later will completed with the start of WOIII in order to conflict maximum chaos and death.
Frances…Berbarians can’t find MERCY…only MURDER….they are de-generate…they are dis-possessed…de-filed..de-faced/////worst of all; they are dis-joined…NOT GROUNDED in the JOY of the MYSTERY.
“And these new and old mayor powers face still yet another novel reality in some respects unprecedented.
And it is that while the lethality the lethality of their power is greater than ever.
Their capacity to oppose control over the politically awakened masses of the world is at A historical low.
I once put it rather bundchendly and I was flattered that the British foreign secretary repeated this, as follows;
Namely in earlier times it was easier to control an million people literally it was easier to control an million people than physically, to kill a million people.
Today it is infinitely easier to kill a million people, than to control a million people.
It is easier to kill than to control.
(Brzezinski breaths-sniffs true is nose inside; sniffffff)
And of course that bears directly on the use of force particular by societies that are culturally alien over other societies.”
a few things things that IMO strike me as a bit of a waste of time and are indicators of other problems…… bonnie and clyde logic…. 1776 and all that…. 50 year old men worrying about theiir hair… being too tight to have kids er and obsessing about money/gold… oh and spending too much time on the internet!!!
oh and spending too much time on the internet!!!
oh and spending too much time on the internet!!!
thats true if you are one of the guys atrributing to 70% of internet traffic
But to just say spending too much time on the internet and thereby insinuating its stupid is so so emm err full of nonsense
The internet has been one of the most revolutionary inventions of all time
U got a desease Google it
U got a lawsuit Google it
People use to charge Fee for advice like that
@jim
a few things things that IMO strike me as a bit of a waste of time and are indicators of other problems…… bonnie and clyde logic…. 1776 and all that…. 50 year old men worrying about theiir hair… being too tight to have kids er and obsessing about money/gold… oh and spending too much time on the internet!!!
And Frances fox Fourier Series all that is nonsense all misleading esp. Calculus God damn they made Tintin with calculus ROFL and by todays stds Accounting 101 hmm err throw that also outta the window if insider tradin is involved
Like I said Frances… Flannery you ain’t…and that reference to Fake-ner the other day was ,…well…quite over the TOP….your balls are growin’…but it’s drainin’ your soul fast.
@Youri
I suppose the phrase ‘getting your own house in order’… oh nevermind… youri IMO most of europe is just like a living in a pringles commercial… I would worry more that your country and a lot of others in europe just seem to breed boring predictable unimaginative robots!!!
No, I don’t see him…wait…he’s here! OMG. IT’S JIM.
Do you think he’ll sign this piece of paper? I could give him a dollar.
No, he doesn’t talk to just anybody. Says the world’s full of “idiot savants” pretending to have read something. My my, I never thought I’d see the day to get up close and see him!
Well, I don’t care if he never talks to me. Just being in the same arena with his….intellectual…what’s the word…..majesty. Yes, that’s it. MAJESTY.
I knowhowyoufeel, Ruby. I get the shivers when I think how ding-dang smart he is!
OMG. He’s getting ready to talk….shhhhh….aren’t you glad he’s not a woman! Couldn’t really listen to a woman talk and respect it quite the same!
What’s wrong, Ruby? I think they got the mike switched off. All I can hear is a rumble noise like some rocks dropping.
Oh. That. He talks with periods all over, and they do run. But he says that is what makes him distinctive. Superior like.
Super Geek…you, like me been HAD…that’s what we got in common…it’s like a real PLATONIC UNIVERSAL…fuck, that rusty nail-driver from Nazareth….what does He know about MONEY and real happiness…right Francis???
@phil
when I was about nine we got split into a top and ‘bottom’ maths group and the same with english… I always wondered what ‘the chosen (mathys) ones’ were doing behind that classroom door and why I wasn’t privvy to all that secret knowledge and learnin’… I realised by the age of fourteen the schools standards weren’t that important because I had found lots of things that I could be good at… but it is amusing to see so many people old enough to know better expressing those same kind of feelings about bankers and money… if you get my drift???
GOOD LORDY, JIM. DOES THAT MEAN YA DON’T WANT ANY PIE? CUZ WEZ GOT PIE!!! GOT BLOOBERRY, AND PEACH, AND STRAWBERRY RHUBARB. MOVE OVER, CYLIS. SHOOT, YA’S THINK THAT BENCH WAS JUST MADE FOR YUR ASS. THAT’S RIGHT, JIM. GOT COFFEE TO GO WITH THAT PIE AS WELL. YOU BE TAKIN CREAM WITH YUR COFFEE. THINK I BETTER DOUBLEDOSE ON THE SUGAR CUZ YOU DON’T LOOK TOO SWEET. THAT’S A JOKE, JIM. GET IT?
Frances…my point comes swingin’ out of some Darwinian, Benthemite grove of trees, just in time…in the form of MEP…where are my elves when I really need ‘em…..Feminine as BUREAUCRATIC-TECNNO-CRANKY NOISEE NONSENSE MEANT TO DIM & DIMINISH ALL SENSES BY THOSE OSCILLATING VENGEFUL OVERDOSES OF ESTROGEN in pursuit of yesterday’s NEWS.
@frances – Many thanks for the cream tip. The bruises aren’t bad as far as pain; I do have throbbing & radiating pain alongside the bone just below my right ear . . . it hurts a little just to turn my head. I didn’t know that I got hit there until I tried to go to sleep last night and couldn’t b/c it was throbbing so bad. The worst of it is coming to grips with who did it, and in knowing that she cares not at all that she terminated our relationship forever last night.
@ Phil – Thanks for the link about the grammar/comprehensive schools. I think it’s generally true that at all levels, class divisions are reproduced. To a certain degree, it’s inevitable. One of the biggest concerns that I have now for our education system is the push for more privatization. I think it’s unfortunate that Obama’s Ed. Secretary is a believer in transforming more public schools into charter schools. The guy has a BA in sociology, which leads me to believe that he had a pretty superficial education, himself, because I know very few sociologists or educators who think that further gutting public education is a good thing.
@ Supergeek – Don’t know what I’ve done to deserve being “the heartbeat,” but thanks for being sweet. I hope Don’s okay, too. Last I knew, he was thinking about letting his place go into foreclosure, and then either getting out of the country or trying to live in a mobile home somewhere.
@ all – The EPA found uranium in Nevada’s water wells:
The article says that nobody knows yet who will pay for the cleanup. Methinks the name of the polluter would be a good start, but then again, that’s just silly talk to expect that corporations be accountable for their actions.
@Jim
I don’t care about what country you do or don’t live in… though I do feel some places are less tainted by the west and solitude is still available if that is what you seek… I was only trying to make a point about people being in touch with themselves and being able to act on it!!!
Methinks you protest too much, Lord Jim. So? You do believe in a literal “hell” don’t you. All those who try to control the beliefs of others through a concensus called truth usually have a place to put those who are, er, difficult.
And if one always has full moons then there would be no descriptive term for full moon seeing as definitions are based on the reliance on the absence of the quantifier. We define day by the absence of night.
You represent the patriarchy which defines life through the death of the feminine. Your moon is always dark.
I’m not a tree nor a bee, and I think you’re full of it. Mercy deigned on us humans by whom? You’re denying others the agency of the imagodei and yet revel in your own pure science.
You most probably have some theorem for the rubbish bin of souls, eh? Some hot spot for those who dare to stand full tall to your imagined lord of the dance?
Humans are Principles; NOT agents. Imago Dei is Purpose; NOT WILL( craving//cunning). Only in moments of Mercy do we RIVAL(not OPPOSE) the Creator. Mercy is the Supreme Apprehension…Mercy underscores the Joy & Celebration in the inclusion(Gift) of the Mystery….Bees & trees don’t get THAT. Contradiction is the Consummate Non- Linear Logic(logos)….Billy Shakepierre Understood….very cata-holica.
Supergeek…assumes there are countries to leave and therefore; i.e.: countries to go to(like Max & Stacy)…. Eden on the left: Eden on the right…touchdown, touchdown…fight, fight fight…….more impressions & sentiments I suggest….or, at least strongly SUSPECT…(the usual idiot savant suspicions.)
The loss of 7.3 million jobs since the recession began in December 2007, the biggest drop of any postwar economic slump. More than 1 million people will run out of unemployment benefits in January unless Congress quickly extends federal emergency aid.
Mint calculates that 5% of US taxpayers account for 60.6% of all tax revenue; and 46.9% will pay no federal taxes in 2009.
A new study finds three-fourths of the young males in the United States are unfit to serve in the military. Around 90 retired officers put a report together called “Ready, Willing and Unable to Serve.” The report finds most young men in the country cannot serve because of obesity, poor health or education, or criminal records.
UAL Corp., US Airways Group Inc., and eight other companies paid executives $350 million in the five years before the United States was forced to take over their underfunded employee pension plans, a government report said. Executives Took $350 Million in Pay as Pensions Ended http://tinyurl.com/y8qfba5
One airline company missed $979 million in required pension contributions while its top three executives took $55.5 million in compensation, and another paid four executives $120.4 million amid two bankruptcies, a Government Accountability Office report found yesterday. Data including dates of the pension terminations, stock awards, and pay levels show the unnamed companies were UAL, the parent of United Airlines, and US Airways.
Benefits to retirees were cut in some cases by as much as two-thirds, as executives got salary increases, stock awards, retention bonuses, and other pay, the GAO said in a report that studied pension takeovers from 2002 through 2005.
@Y’all
after reading nearly every comment made in the first say six months of this site… I had a thought… the heartbeat and soul of this site IMO are and always will be, Mep = Heartbeat and Don = Soul… after that who I don’t really give a shit…I don’t always agree with either of them very much and Don very rarely. in fact he used to frighten the life out of me a lot… I respect Mep because she actually rolls up her sleeves and trys to deal with real life with the real people on the ground in the ‘war’… and Don because love him or hate him, he was as truthful as the day is long and a true american… and a pioneer who knew when to leave his country behind and head to the jungle… so wherever he is best of luck… same to you too Mep!!!
Grand unified inflation/deflation theory. So what you’re saying is that the macro trend is global cooling; and although there was (is? according to anecdotal evidence of shorts in Nov. in Paris) evidence of global warming, it’s just a blip in the overall trend?
So is Gold deflating? Or are prices just deflating in gold prices?
Max: Mike King Look-a-like
Stacy: cute Doe with a temper
Phil: Rock of Gilbraltar
Youri Carma: Pacific Ocean
Dedo: Shamrock
Supergeek: Emphemeral cloud
Guiseppi: Dove
MotherEarth: Staghorn deer
OP: Pit Bull
Gordo: Beach Peep birdie
WL:Fox
Will: Robin
MiniUS: Passenger Pigeon
BF.Skinner: Barn Owl
………jim………well……..mule donkey……..what else?
Mr.Cork: Draught of Ale
Dante: Hawk
Mongo: Silver-earringed Pirate
Fibon11235: Constellation
Bonn: South America tree toad
DanValley: Desert fox
JustGetItRight: Exclamation Point
Alister: Spanish Dancer
ScottfromOregon: Snowflake
Photoception: Raindrop
AdamC: Bison
Frankly I dispise the Dutch cause they are much more ignorant MTF’s than even the Americans. They wouldn’t even notice enetring into the gas chambers they are so fuckin stupid. They havn’t got the slightest idea what is going on now in the States and they will never find out cause by that time they will all die from their freaken vaccins and stuff.
Phil: You made some comment about how great grammar schools are…
… You then went on to explain building pressure in society at that time to create equal opportunities for others, and your resentment of that due to a perceived injustice.
What you experienced is the flip-side to a coin which those excluded from the grammar school system endured far longer. Hence – in the sixties, things boiled over.
Good luck to you…. I am not jealous. And, by the way, I just lurve books too… all learning in fact. Reading is not an exclusive pastime for the noble elite. And yes comprehensives are a bit rough, some kids do not adapt well to the pressures of having to compete for everything at a ‘street’ level.
However, segregation is wrong in all walks of life and grammar schools did not provide a fair or equal method of education. It nurtured flaneurs and factory workers. Officers and squaddies. A corrupt mentality.
Amerikans are people who, at first ,took the opportunity to break the “jail’: shortly thereafter, they learned they had an even bigger opportunity to run the “jail”..Soo tragic, soo disgraceful…EXPLOITERS; NOT LOVERS. CALGARY STANDS.
Well of cause when I say Americans I mean the criminal American government. But in the news and blogs we use this simplification, needless to say but necessary this time it seems.
When they say Dutch this and that in the news I don’t feel it as a personal thing.
@phil
ex pats talking about the old country and the labour party… give me break… you wanted to leave.. but there you are still stuck in the past… life moves on and so did you… let it go… as for ‘bettering yourself’ when talking about money… c’mon… ooh working class made good there is another sad expression!!!
@Youri:
The world’s seems to be turning so it thinks it can see the dark side of the moon. Well, Youri Carma. If it makes you feel righteous and you’ll sleep better go ahead and label me barbarian, American, or a joint-killer of Iraqis. I won’t be much but dust soon anyway, so when I blow past your window I’ll be sure and say, “booh”.
@SG .. if I’m supposed to take your remarks seriously, well, I suppose I’d better continue…
a) I have known a lot of snobs and I am not one of them
b) I have “earned” every penny and have never been privileged except by the people that trusted my work and paid me for it
c) I have lived in rough areas and prefer not to go back there
In the 60′s in the UK, there was a lot of “anti snobbery” around , propagated especially by the Labor Party. Anyone who wanted to get on was considered a snob and was mobbed or beaten up if he was in the wrong school. It was very much a case of everyone preferring their neighbour to be one of the “have nots” or else he was suspicious and disliked because he/she tried to get on. Pseudo-communism if you like.
This was not just the case in schools, but also in British companies where there was “them” and “us” segregation.
A little story…
I worked on an assembly line at IBM in South England for a while on a 6 month contract. Some of the guys were on heavy drugs, and I remember always giving a particular druggie called “Tom” some of my “assemblies” so that he didn’t get sacked … he introduced me to Joni Mitchell for which I am eternally grateful. Our particular line-manager was very narrow mined and got a lot of contra from me , because I always stuck up for the workers on the line that were IMO treated with a lack of respect. One day, that manager called me into his office 1 month before my contract was due to end, and started off with “Phil, you’re a very intelligent guy, so …..” — the rest I knew before he said it. I told him what I thought about his management style, and got sacked with 4 weeks free pay , i.e. he wanted me off the site before there was a revolution caused by my presence.
By coincidence, at the same time while I was working there, I used to play squash with the managing director, a very nice guy … he told me a few months later that the assembly line guys had gone on strike and as a result , the manager had been “re-deployed” elsewhere.
I also applied for a programming job there afterwards. The interview that the personell department gave me was like a police interrogation. It put me off completely , and thought “What a bunch of w*nkers”.
Their pathetic aptitude test, I passed with 100% BTW .. it was I that said no to them .
Glad I didn’t take the job, because I would othersie missed a very inetresting career path afterwards.
If you want to be one of the “have nots” , best of luck.
If you want to get on in life, it doesn’t make you a snob does it !
ZERO Interest is INFINITE…no beginning, no middle,no end)no hinges)…no present, no past, no future—the ABYSS….NO REALITY. Infinite will DEVOUR FINITE, obviously…This all remains strictly POLITICAL….Math beats back the on-surge of the Masses. After this Surreal feature exhausts itself…LOOK OUT.
It’s true that there is a system of importance everywhere and that education plays into that system. But that doesn’t make education bad. A gun is not the murder weapon: it is a man pulling the trigger. As long as one is free to better oneself then one should take advantage to do so: be it reading, or sports, or art, or music, or just nature loving. That’s easy.
What’s hard is allowing the bitterness to go away for wanting to be important. Important is nothing really except a chance to stand uptop a dirt mound for a bit and shout. No one is going to care when the stander is just as much dust as the mound.
And being thankful is more important than having a lot of nice stuff. Being free is most important of all: more important than living even.
@Supergeek:
Books are nice. The nice part about books is they don’t hurt you. They are friends in fair and foul.
If I have put myself over anyone due to liking to read, then forgive me. But I think it is a good thing to go to college to learn other people’s perspectives. If college is a free environment to speak, that is.
I don’t believe that education is an indicator of intelligence. Education is a tool.
If you want to learn things, Supergeek, then do it. You don’t have to go to school to read books. And saying books are bad is really a sad choice.
@Y’all
No compute… y’all gonna tell me how superior you were to at school again or maybe your qualifications or chosen field…. fuck school fuck your degrees and fuck your profession… just get to the point…formal education… don’t seem to have done all Y’all any good… some of you can’t even listen to a song or hear a joke without worrying what it’s supposed to mean… or trying putting your stamp on it and usually being wrong… hey but that’s just my opinion…. don’t let me stop you from bangin’ on your drums and recommending or hiding behind the same three books over and over!!!
Some of us are awake, some of us are asleep , some of us just don’t care and like being used and abused.
All politicans are the same. If they begin their careers with good intentions, they are bought out of their moralistic ventures with cold hard cash , if this does not work, they are killed or inlfected with a well known deadly disease.
The system as a whole must be destroyed, not one part of it is viable.
True capitalism, socialism, communism no longer exits. All that exists is corporatism , corruption, false statistics , and twisted markets. This is all sprinkled in with media propoganda barrages, mass ugenics programs and greed.
The WWF is more real than what many of us take for reality.
“Is it realistic to expect a bunch of 18 year old people just entering college to assemble in protest of a war?”
The Iraq war began in 2003. That would mean the 18-year-olds were 12 at the time the war started. But maybe those 12-yr-olds were born to Americans who might have protested: perhaps they did. But even if the 18-year-olds did not have an opportunity to protest they would be called into guilt under a system of collective scapegoating run by the Eurocrats.
It makes you wonder why Stacy and Max refuse to address the UN mandates which have prolonged the Iraq war. That would mean all of Europe lies in collective guilt seeing as the Security Council is represented by:
“There are 15 members of the Security Council, consisting of five veto-wielding permanent members (China, France, Russia, United Kingdom, United States) and ten elected non-permanent members with two-year terms. This basic structure is set out in Chapter V of the UN Charter.”
@phil
maybe nine and a half… who’s counting (other than you) it don’t mean anything to me the fact that is all you can pick up on shows a real lack of imagination on your part and confirms you are a snob IMO!!!
@Y’all
‘Peace OK…I don’t play’…. except… with squaddies… here is this years fave game… example… yesterday two sqaddies walked past me in uniform… just as they started to pass… I clapped my hands loudly by deh ears and shouted “BOOM!… the next time you hear that sound will be before you DIE MURDERING SCUM!!!”… IMO… I find sometimes you gotta just roll up your sleeves and take it to the street… and it’s also great for focusing Mind and Body which is more important the older you get I find… never let an oppurtunity pass you by lifes too short and the work is long Y’ALL!!!
Probably relvant to your question: I wonder why the young are so disenfranchised in society. Why can’t 12 year olds vote? Why could they not object to the war? They function as an exploitation tool to get to the income of the parents, and are used as cannon fodder in unprovoked wars, then (if they are smart) made hostage of ant university system, to start working out of debt. It seems virtually every avanu of exploitation of the young is covered..
Those that debate within a system, about the system, are bound by it’s rules, and are lost forever in its absurdity.
Only a few dare walk on the grass! : )
@spellchecker
I could smell hypocrites and liars by the time I was seven… and another advantage of taking care of yourself at that age was after two years of school at most… I was expelled at the age of ten I think… and I never went back or looked back… yeah even then… I would fuck with anything that moved if it bullshitted me!!!
@phil
seperate em all I say… rich and poor… labour and tory…. boys and girls… black and white… maan you are one fucking stuck up, snob, showing your true clours eh…BLUE???
“I also agree with Bill Moyers that a draft should be reinstated.”
Right. A draft will end the war. And destroying villages is the way to make em grow. And Bill Moyers is important so he can spout the lies and kill the young with his influence.
But, Frank. You should take care for your own words are a’slayin the young as well.
Bonn, real estate and land are leveraged assets that could see their prices fall regardless of sentiment due to an erosion of banks’ deposit bases forcing further credit contraction. There is no motive to keep fiat currency in bank accounts at no interest.
Less than a quarter percent of Americans owning gold is even worse than I suspected. Sounds like extremely easy pickings for the government to me. Considering what they did after their little Sept 11th slight of hand, in the rubble of busted banks, unions, pensions, and safety nets, Americans should be expecting another New Deal type theft. Except in this age, hiding gold ownership will be far more difficult and dangerous. If a digital currency is brought in, good luck getting fair value for criminally owned gold.
You put that turkey in the deep fryer yet? I’m a’mixin up the cornbread and the snap peas is setting to cool.
Ma! I’m a’skeered of that hot fat! Seems likely to spill. Why don’t we just put this’n here de-feathered mon-stro-sity in the bakeoven?
Stella! That’s how them Yankees cook’n their birds. Seems fine nuff to take some heat out’er the house rather than bring more in!
Okay, Ma, But I don’t know why we celerbrate Thanksgiving anyhoot. Seems like the world is a nasty place an all. What we got to be THANKFUL fur?
Pa! Ya done heard it?
Steller-whatz-fur-Sam-hills-gotten-into-ya?
Pa. Why DO we gotta eat turkey deep a’swimmin in it’s own pool of fat?
Come here, Peanut. Thanksgiving is bout family and being thankful. That ‘air turkey ain’t family, is he?
Nosir.
Stella. When the ocean meets the sky, what you call it?
Don’t rightly know, Pa. Wet?
Yep, Peanut. It’s gonna rain sure nuff. When Thanksgivin comes round here we meetin with yur Aunt Lucy-Mae, Billy-Bob Junior, Dexter, Abacus, RonPaul Sr., Jesse, and StacyLuHu, and MaxLeeJr. It’s sure nuff rainin family!
Shoot, Pa. If’n we skip outter here, maybe I don’t have to sit next to Billy-Bob. He chews louder than Bounteeful eating sugar cubes.
You be a’thankful you gotz a family, Stella-Jean-Louise. Seems like yer a might darn uppity with that there schoolin you brung to home. Whatz important in life is family, and THAT’S Thanksgivin ferya.
Okay. But Pa? I’m settin to be a vegeetariun after this lump-of-fat-fried-fowl.
@ frances snoot – Yes I was totally against Iraq and the Banker Bailout. I called my representatives in Congress and would have been happy to have participated in protests, but none happened.
I also agree with Bill Moyers that a draft should be reinstated. That would keep the US out of these foreign wars. In addition there should be a ban on the use of contractors by the military. This is another way that the human cost of war is kept from impacting US society, which serves to make it more palatable. The result is the War Profiteers can continue to pilfer the US taxpayer.
I cannot believe that the argument persists big-upping segregated education.
The failure of the comprehensive system was due to many ex grammer school types wanting to keep the great unwashed in the dirt.
The notion that grammer schools were open to all is also untrue. Despite my folks passing 11+, they had to forego that ‘elite’ pathway due to family poverty and enter the workplace early. A comprehensive system would have ensured they got good qualifications prior to entering the workplace.
There was a huge outpouring against the banker bailout in America. The switchboards at the Congressional offices were brought DOWN by the number of calls nine to one against. The House voted no first, then the Senate took the bill and added it as an amendment to another bill. So the bailout was not constitutional when it passed because it did not clear the House.
“I have to agree with Max with his lack of sympathy for the students in California who have been hit with a large tuition increase. The time to protest and take over buildings was as Max says when the war in Iraq was launched. It was also when the Banker Bailout was proposed”
@FrankHope:
You and Max were out protesting for both the war and the bailout, right? If not, then how can you possible be so heartless for the youth who are trying to better themselves only to make a decent wage?
@Mep:
I think the best approach at present here in the US against the Afghan war or the Pakistan war of the anything other war is to show the people that America is fighting for the UN mandates and resolutions coming out of the Security Council and administered through NATO juridiction.
Stacey, I have left comments for Max on Facebook but I do not know if he has seen them. This is an unrelated story but it could be something he can discuss on the show. http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article14996.html (“Gold Finger – A New Take on Operation Grand Slam with a Tungsten Twist” by Rob Kirby). The atricle tells how China took physical delivery of gold bars from a US bank. The Chinese had some the bars drilled and found tungsten inside. Note that tungsten has approximately the same density as gold. More fraud by the banksters? Maybe. See if Max can take a look at this and possibly discuss this on the show.
@Mep .. found a link / Grammer versus Comprehensive Schools
Page 131 : …
The grammar school, which had no class barriers and provided equal opportunity for all who were capable of profiting from it, was one of the most potent democratic influences in society … A neighbourhood comprehensive school which abandoned intellectual segregation would put social segregation in it’s place .
…
@Mep … Today’s universities have become just another part of the plantation landscape
How true .. and that’s without even considering whether the UCLA students were protesting the protesters .
The education system has had some serious ” dumbing down ” it seems … from primary school onwards.
Sad !
PS:
I went to 3 senior schools in total in the 60′s.
I passed my 11+ exam and would have normally gone to a grammar school, but there wasn’t one in the area where I lived at the time .
The order was :
a) a comprehensive school
b) a grammar school
c) a grammar school that turned comprehensive while I was still there
I discovered that the segregation of pupils worked best.
The academics who all wanted to learn got on well together.
The secondary school pupils were more or less more interested in handy-work professions – mechanic, plumber etc. and they all got on very well together.
Mixing the two together was a disaster, such that the almost class warfare developed — the academic class versus the practical class.
I discovered recently via an Internet article , that a member of the Labor Government of the time had had such a hatred of the “academic class” that he vowed to destroy every grammar school in England …and he won it seems !
Maybe I’ll go and look for that article .. it was pretty shocking !
The Fed’s balance sheet swelled to its largest point since December as its holdings in agency and mortgage-backed securities increased, data released.
Balance sheet liabilities had expanded to $2.19T as of Nov. 19, the highest point recorded since liabilities hit $2.25T on Dec. 31, 2008. The Fed’s holdings of mortgage-backed securities increased to $847B, from $776B a week earlier, while its agency debt ownership rose to $153B from $150B.
The Fed has said it will continue its support for markets with ongoing purchases of securities, buying $1.25T worth of mortgage-backed securities and $175B in bonds issued by Fannie Mae ( FNM), Freddie Mac (FRE) and the Federal Home Loan Bank System.
Mortgage backed securities are OTC derivatives. Wonder who will get banged here???
@ Phil – I wondered the same thing when I heard Max say that. At any rate, he’s right about universities needing to be changed. Today’s universities have become just another part of the plantation landscape. (See The Neoliberal University”: http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=11223 )
@ Stacy & Max – Sound quality was tops . . . must’ve been that chocolate syrup and honey that did the trick.
Max, according to my sister-turned-belligerent monster (thanks, US military!), the kids with their faces in the dirt over in Bangladesh are happy to have their faces there, and people such as yourself have no right to speak of it because you are not directly affected in any way. I was naked during you guys’ show, too–listening to part of it in the bath; I’m still finding bruises on my legs, neck, behind my ears–in places where I don’t recall being hit. She’ll likely be among the crowds gathered early on Black Friday outside Wall-mart. Peeps better hope that they don’t grab the last of whatever piece of plastic is in this year from her. Giving cheap plastic shit to her kids is the only way she knows of to show love, and she needs to buy a whole lot of it to try to make up for being an abusive tool.
On Friday, November 20, 2009 Commerce Bank of Southwest Florida, Fort Myers, FL was closed by the Florida Office of Financial Regulation, and the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC) was named Receiver. No advance notice is given to the public when a financial institution is closed.
Here is Gerry Celente— The Great Depression of 2012
The greatest bank robbery in world history, but the banks are the thieves. A big currency crisis will happen by late March 2010. Anti-immigration, becomes big issue next year.
The guy who was arrested” JOSEPH MOSHE”, is not a Mossad Agent, and he is not “mysterious” or “missing” like many people online have been parroting.
JOE MOSHE is sitting in a jail in Los Angeles county right now you fools.
His BOOKING Number is 2019293 . He is being held at the Twin Towers Correctional facility (yes weird name but true) located at 450 Bauchet Street in Los Angeles.
You can even call to confirm with the clerk that he’s there.
Phone number is 213-473-6080.
Joseph Moshe DOB:12/5/1952
Arresting agency LAPD- Metro division. Booking location 4273.
If you think I’m full of crap, try looking up the info yourselves. Next time do research before you panic and post false info. Snap out of it Infowars.
Another enjoyable and edifying hour spent in the company of Stacy and Max.
I have to agree with Max with his lack of sympathy for the students in California who have been hit with a large tuition increase. The time to protest and take over buildings was as Max says when the war in Iraq was launched. It was also when the Banker Bailout was proposed. The students need to make the connection between the current government crisis and the transfer of funds to the Banksters and the War Profiteers. This is not Capitalism – this is Welfare for the Rich.
As Stacy says, this is the new Feudalism. Or as I stated back in October 2008:
Another way of looking at this is that America will become a colony of the International Bankers. And we will be forced to pay tribute in the form of taxes and inflation and usage fees for the highways and airports that we used to own. The thing that makes this such a diabolical scheme is that the average American will never realize that he or she has become a slave and especially won’t realize who his or her master really is. We will blame the government, but the government will be powerless to make any changes or to defend us.
Wow it takes sooo long to catch up with all the posts especially with a bad head from too many beers:
My take is this:
Climate change – invented by Evil power hungry bastards
Financial system – invented by Evil power hungry bastards
Suppression of the people – invented by Evil power hungry bastards
Wars – invented by Evil power hungry bastards
Laws – invented by Evil power hungry bastards
Religion – invented by Evil power hungry bastards
Hey guys i was hoping around the web and found ‘ THE SECRET OF OZ’ movie and i just ordered it. The thing is Amazon kicked him off there site once they realized what his movie was about. Come to find out the founder of Amazon Had worked for Banks in the past and started up some derivatives for those banks go figure. But it would be cool if Max would either talk about the movie or label it on your site so people could find out about it. just a thought.
@M and S
I have been a regular visitor to the website for what would seem an eternity. Posting on very few occasions. I do not know what has happened but it would seem I have fallen onto some sort of “Moderation list.” I have heard of this happening before to another regular/multi poster. Any thoughts/explanation. My post are not offensive IMHO but who knows. Thin skinners abound. I will continue to read as alot of the posters links are invaluable. Good luck in the future.
n from what i gather Silver didnt follow Gold cause it has Industrial use plus da da da da …… do the math ……….Eco down Common sense again been carpet bombed
Did you know there is a coastal town in Wales called Mumbles … in fact they have their own bay – Mumbles Bay.
I won 2 of the 5 national championship races ( sailing ) there in 69. ca. 250 boats and Force 8 winds.
Dressed up in drag for the local disco.
Greta place Mumbles !
my advice to this Site has always been invest in Steel Cement or food products Screw GOLD personally i invest in Real Estate or land the things i mentioned are things people use
Where has the archive link gone? GOTTA HAVE TAM IN MY IPOD!
Did anyone catch this gem….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2MO7tIaAto&feature=fvst
Naturally it had all the major douchbags and even a surprize appearance by John Mack.
I find waterboarding rather puts me in a zen state …lol
Oh, Dan Valley, I only meant I couldn’t be strong through waterboarding: it breaks the spirit.
But one hopefully avoids those unpleasant moments!
@snoots…..exactly…what is held as truth from the establishment changes from day to day yr to yr. etc….and sadly we have to operate in that system depite what each of us hold to be true as individuals….only those that can endure the vasilating public truths with as much of themselves intact will prosper. Waterboarding is what waterboading is to you madame….waterboading cant take anything away from me that I dont allow to be.
@DanValley:
Don’t think I’d survive waterboarding with my soul intact.
Endurance is more important than truth.
Truth is what is true to you, DanValley!
What up again with Gold? Futures chart looking like buyers came in big over in Europe and elsewhere right at open. Anyone have some news or is this just the way its going to be from now on? Who knows?
Please i need ideas on whether to take possession of the precious metal I buy or just have GoldMoney store it in their vault. Some say only take delivery but then the problem of the U.S. government confiscating the bullion. Any comments on this would be most welcome. I do not like paying high premiums on vintage coins and think that a racket. I do not like having to find my own vault since who do you trust in the event of a government confiscation. But without delivery and with all the tungsten out there how do you know if what you are buying is the real deal.
Comments invited, best, bb
@ snoots….what do you see yourself as….tough one right?….I only need the essentials to survive aS we all do,my mantra is:
Endurance is more important than truth.
@ Warburg Sidney
Thanks for the links. Indeed, it is a very odd story. What are we now at, three conflicting tales.
1. A nutty, abusive real estate agent.
2. Someone who threathened to blow up the White House (from LA)
3. A secret Mossad agent spilling the beans.
Things that make you go hmmmm indeed.
I just cannot wait to see what comes up next on the myriad of disinfo sites.
@TBone
Great comment.
DanValley:
Never thought WW2 for you but of you being clever and capable of surviving without essentials.
The federal witness metaphor was toooo funny.
Just stumbled across this blog post examining the economic crisis by the BBC Newsnight Economics editor. Thought it may be of interest to people here.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/newsnight/paulmason/2009/10/eighty_years_after_wall_street.html
Also his more recent piece on rare earth
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/newsnight/paulmason/2009/11/rare_earth_the_new_great_game.html
@tofu cholly
I was a bit tired to appreciate your link last night… I checked it more closely and I saw youri and Mother Earth with xmas hats on eating dinner in the background, remember in 2000 there was some mad shit going down!!!
I like Frances perspective on life,..let it be.
To many control freaks out there IMO.
The thing is though,..”freedom” in a structured society is the antithesis of the system.
Which is why, those who crave it, should just keep quiet and get on with it.Try not to rattle the cage, cause the animals will get restless, and realize they are in a cage. They will claw and fight and spit, to bring you back in. : )
So to all you animals out there (you know who you are) just keep grazing. Baa baaa baaaa
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6QXQSSTJuU
just due to his erratic and single minded posts…like a stressed federal witness popping in and out of his room to get the latest update….is it here yet?
how about now?
when do you think it will get here
lol
But if I it was my list I think mie from liverwurst would most definitely be a Chihuahua
@Jeemobon …that post was from snoots originally
dan you forgot mike in liverpool
@ Frank snoot….you see me as …Erwin Rommel…..
Sunday evening here and quite chilly an odd chilly actually …..mirrors the political environment to be honest.
In other news….END THE FED! SUNDAY Nov 22 – Nationwide Action Day
You forgot yourself…………..
Maxkeiser.com Metaphoria
Max: Mike King Look-a-like
Stacy: cute Doe with a temper
Phil: Rock of Gilbraltar
Youri Carma: Pacific Ocean
Dedo: Shamrock
Supergeek: Emphemeral cloud
Guiseppi: Dove
MotherEarth: Staghorn deer
OP: Pit Bull
Gordo: Beach Peep birdie
WL:Fox
Will: Robin
MiniUS: Passenger Pigeon
BF.Skinner: Barn Owl
………jim………well……..mule donkey……..what else?
Mr.Cork: Draught of Ale
Dante: Hawk
Mongo: Silver-earringed Pirate
Fibon11235: Constellation
Bonn: South America tree toad
DanValley: Desert fox
JustGetItRight: Exclamation Point
Alister: Spanish Dancer
ScottfromOregon: Snowflake
Photoception: Raindrop
AdamC: Bison
whew did I forget someone?
@Tofu Charlie – WTF?
@Mep – I hope you are alright? Was the fight with your sister over her right to cheap shopping stampedes?
two more links (Ukraine)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/14/man-suspected-of-making-t_n_259330.html
http://vactruth.com/2009/09/19/joseph-moshe-mossad-microbiologist-“swine-flu-vaccine-is-bioweapon”/
where is the one where the called actually in that show?
the story of Moshe/ Deagle (Ukraine flu) gets weirder
http://crazymotion.net/dr-joseph-moshes-wife-sets-the-record-straight/w5PaXjoQ4akUjAy.html
interesting blog about Moshe/ Deagle story (Ukraine flu)
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread520295/pg1
Eh,
Zero interest only means you don’t need to pay for your money. The fed still requires you to put up some assets for your money, but in an age of derivatives I guess that is not that hard. Inflation is caused but the increase of the money supply, not only by the availability of the money at no cost.
Brzezinski is right, I suspect the appraoch to war in Afganistan has another motive which is to disable the convetional warfare option. But a smart president that does his job right will make a deal to use the nuclear fule for domestic purposes, instead of waging war with it..
Instead of debating youri´s god or godlessnes it is wiser to go over what that Brzezinski guy really is saying!
PS my comments may not have been directly attributed to the show as I only started listening… but also in relation to some of the other comments in other shows in the last few weeks. So apologies if it is a bit off! I’m continuing to listen to the show as we speak now…
Cheers!
Max & Stacey,
You have a great show! Been listening to you guys for 2 years now. One of the only beefs I have with what you guys say is in regards to global warming… you guys are quite influential and I don’t know it’s because you guys just want to focus on finance and markets but your comments on global warming – i believe can be more constructive. The media tries to divide the camps into deniers and believers – but the crux of the scientific debate is in regards to anthroprogenic global warming and CO2 – and not those who believe or don’t believe global warming is happening. It might be… it’s not good to waste! But getting into a draconian CO2 tax – which is essentially a tax on breathing – is not going to help fund research into less poluting sources of energy – it is merely going to line the pockets of the bureacracy that levies the tax at the expense of everyone else in the name of the environment.
It’s very different to the defacating in the room analogy which though hillarious I find misleading. There is incentive for all to have a sewerage system as a means of waste disposal. There is no incentive for all to have a carbon tax as only those who can afford it will survive – a further tax on energy – READ the money powers – with more giant financial industries to support the bureacracy (at the expense of the real economy). It is not designed for the well being of the people – it is designed for the well being of the environment. Actually no – it is made to look like it is designed for the well being of the environment.
Also as you correctly point out that the whilstle is being blown on (to use a phrase you like to use) “rigged” science.
What has happened in the world of “rigged markets” and finance in the last few years and what you have helped deconstruct and explain so eloquently is now happening to the world of rigged science (and politics).
Yes its’ not good to waste. Yes coal isn’t very “clean”. Yes, petrol may be running out. But to condemn the technology and call it a pollutant when it was what has increased standards of living in the world is to bite the hand that feeds you (e.g. coal). Let’s also ask – what is the cost of not using it?
Every human innovation and invention has gone through a phase of failure. I’m sure if we keep thinking in a constructive way we can still solve our energy dilemma. Will there be failure along the way, that I’m sure. But they didn’t build the 747 overnight.
Sometimes people get caught up with good intentions and can then be easily manipulated. Let’s not confuse the environmental movement and the push for cleaner energy with climate change and a rationale for a tax on breathing. We should not scrap technology that has helped power the last century without finding the alternative for this century. More and more, it’s the same type of fear mongering that Paulson and his gang used to extort their 23 trillion from congress. Let’s not let the UN and some political, pseudo-scientific organization use the same fear mongering to extort the last remains of our freedoms and sovereignity.
Just because good feelings accompany an idea does not make it a good idea. The road to hell is paved with good intentions and history is littered with many such examples. Or maybe it was always propaganda? We’ll never trully know.
The devil is ALWAYS in the detail. There’s a financial side to this Max & Stacey – the proposed carbon taxes. I’m sure if you delve deep enough to the financial mechanics you may find the true finance, markets and scandal in this topic.
Keep up the good work nonetheless.
Cheers!
Do i need more
Join the rat race for the cardiac arrest at 58 RODFL
ZERO Interest is INFINITE…no beginning, no middle,no end)no hinges)…no present, no past
thats under Ideal Conditions
Unit of time is never taken into consideration
which throws Math 101 otta the window too
Inflation on 0 % interest
I mean thats what all of us are trying to preserve
“Buying Power” . Did I have more of it last year ?
RODFL PMSL
what’s that? a visitor from Spiegel, the middlebrow infotainment weekly & organ of BND disinformation?
Axel Brot in his epic three-part article on German realignment highlighted the ignominious role of Spiegel–
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article19491.htm
for an example of what Spiegel is all about, see:
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,553724,00.html
@youri
or… don’t confuse quantity with quality!!!
@youri
A billboard or a basic bit of software would do a better job… like I said robots… use all that time you save to actually do something more productive… get over yourself mate… you aint that special… and people aint that stupid… youri… we have an expression in my country you are just wanking off!!!
Youri…you have been conceived in LOVE:…regardless of circumstances. The Sermon OnThe Mount was about Spirits ; NOT about Stomachs.
What is the US really doing with Iran’s “frozen” assets?
http://joshfulton.blogspot.com/2009/11/what-is-us-doing-with-irans-frozen.html
@Supergeek
stretch out a bit…. I agree
Repeat myself….I will repeat myself as much is needed to be sure that everybody gets the big picture. Donnow who was in here when I talked about it before? To reach new people you have to repeat yourself, that’s the only way.
Youri…nothing can be done to you to ever remove the gift that you have been given.
You belong to the Gods, Youri…Not to Mankinders.
@jim
Fear is a natural reaction to warn you and to protect you from danger you just have to handle it and trust will help you.
@youri
stretch out a bit…. because you don’t half repeat yourself!!!
@frances snoot
Glad you apreciate it cause it was a lot of work. These people are realy crazy and the lie is big enough (like Hitler said) to make it very difficult to convince anybody that they are actually acting out these develish plans. The economic chaos is just one part of it unfortunately.
Youri…Fate is Superstition….Superstition is FEAR…Faith is Trust.
@Y’all
IMO the internet is what it is… sometimes an idiot magnet… sometimes quite useful… how much is too much???
So, tryingb to find out who’s trying to kill you also a waste of time? Quess not. Let me be clear hear. The satanist are acting out the self fullfilling provecy of the many 2012 conspiracies.
Not only will millions of people die of hunger starvation but at the same time the evil satanist are spreading weaponized virusses all over the globe. If you don’t believe me now you will later.
So we’ve got a collusion of a global financial melt down together with genocide true the virusses and starvation which later will completed with the start of WOIII in order to conflict maximum chaos and death.
Frances…Berbarians can’t find MERCY…only MURDER….they are de-generate…they are dis-possessed…de-filed..de-faced/////worst of all; they are dis-joined…NOT GROUNDED in the JOY of the MYSTERY.
@Jim:
Berbarians can’t spell.
@Youri:
Thanks for the link for the text!
Youri…barberians…should be BARBARIANS.
Head of the Barberians Zbigniew Brzezinski
Brzezinski: “Its easier to kill a million people…than it is to control them” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKzEpQc-yo8
“And these new and old mayor powers face still yet another novel reality in some respects unprecedented.
And it is that while the lethality the lethality of their power is greater than ever.
Their capacity to oppose control over the politically awakened masses of the world is at A historical low.
I once put it rather bundchendly and I was flattered that the British foreign secretary repeated this, as follows;
Namely in earlier times it was easier to control an million people literally it was easier to control an million people than physically, to kill a million people.
Today it is infinitely easier to kill a million people, than to control a million people.
It is easier to kill than to control.
(Brzezinski breaths-sniffs true is nose inside; sniffffff)
And of course that bears directly on the use of force particular by societies that are culturally alien over other societies.”
Transcript: http://tinyurl.com/nroq58
“a few things things that IMO strike me as a bit of a waste of time and are indicators of other problems”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQrJ3a3UD_M
a few things things that IMO strike me as a bit of a waste of time and are indicators of other problems…… bonnie and clyde logic…. 1776 and all that…. 50 year old men worrying about theiir hair… being too tight to have kids er and obsessing about money/gold… oh and spending too much time on the internet!!!
oh and spending too much time on the internet!!!
oh and spending too much time on the internet!!!
thats true if you are one of the guys atrributing to 70% of internet traffic
But to just say spending too much time on the internet and thereby insinuating its stupid is so so emm err full of nonsense
The internet has been one of the most revolutionary inventions of all time
U got a desease Google it
U got a lawsuit Google it
People use to charge Fee for advice like that
Super Geek…AMEN!!!…get thee to Calcutta(Soho).
@jim
a few things things that IMO strike me as a bit of a waste of time and are indicators of other problems…… bonnie and clyde logic…. 1776 and all that…. 50 year old men worrying about theiir hair… being too tight to have kids er and obsessing about money/gold… oh and spending too much time on the internet!!!
Refreshing indeed!
Potential of sixth sense technology …
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrtANPtnhyg&feature=player_embedded#
And Frances fox Fourier Series all that is nonsense all misleading esp. Calculus God damn they made Tintin with calculus ROFL and by todays stds Accounting 101 hmm err throw that also outta the window if insider tradin is involved
Like I said Frances… Flannery you ain’t…and that reference to Fake-ner the other day was ,…well…quite over the TOP….your balls are growin’…but it’s drainin’ your soul fast.
@Youri
I suppose the phrase ‘getting your own house in order’… oh nevermind… youri IMO most of europe is just like a living in a pringles commercial… I would worry more that your country and a lot of others in europe just seem to breed boring predictable unimaginative robots!!!
Is he here yet?
No, I don’t see him…wait…he’s here! OMG. IT’S JIM.
Do you think he’ll sign this piece of paper? I could give him a dollar.
No, he doesn’t talk to just anybody. Says the world’s full of “idiot savants” pretending to have read something. My my, I never thought I’d see the day to get up close and see him!
Well, I don’t care if he never talks to me. Just being in the same arena with his….intellectual…what’s the word…..majesty. Yes, that’s it. MAJESTY.
I knowhowyoufeel, Ruby. I get the shivers when I think how ding-dang smart he is!
OMG. He’s getting ready to talk….shhhhh….aren’t you glad he’s not a woman! Couldn’t really listen to a woman talk and respect it quite the same!
What’s wrong, Ruby? I think they got the mike switched off. All I can hear is a rumble noise like some rocks dropping.
Oh. That. He talks with periods all over, and they do run. But he says that is what makes him distinctive. Superior like.
Gotcha, Ruby. Aint’ it great to be alive!
Super Geek…you, like me been HAD…that’s what we got in common…it’s like a real PLATONIC UNIVERSAL…fuck, that rusty nail-driver from Nazareth….what does He know about MONEY and real happiness…right Francis???
Frances…you & your type don’ cut it..no Cool Hand Lucy anywhere close….Norman Rockwell knew but couldn’t SAY.
@phil
when I was about nine we got split into a top and ‘bottom’ maths group and the same with english… I always wondered what ‘the chosen (mathys) ones’ were doing behind that classroom door and why I wasn’t privvy to all that secret knowledge and learnin’… I realised by the age of fourteen the schools standards weren’t that important because I had found lots of things that I could be good at… but it is amusing to see so many people old enough to know better expressing those same kind of feelings about bankers and money… if you get my drift???
It’s going to be a Bermuda Triangle!!!
I think my compass is spinning… Is the next Golden Compass movie out yet?
GOOD LORDY, JIM. DOES THAT MEAN YA DON’T WANT ANY PIE? CUZ WEZ GOT PIE!!! GOT BLOOBERRY, AND PEACH, AND STRAWBERRY RHUBARB. MOVE OVER, CYLIS. SHOOT, YA’S THINK THAT BENCH WAS JUST MADE FOR YUR ASS. THAT’S RIGHT, JIM. GOT COFFEE TO GO WITH THAT PIE AS WELL. YOU BE TAKIN CREAM WITH YUR COFFEE. THINK I BETTER DOUBLEDOSE ON THE SUGAR CUZ YOU DON’T LOOK TOO SWEET. THAT’S A JOKE, JIM. GET IT?
Youri..the US is a Norman(Anglo-Dutch) PRODUCT…take some ownership before some US sponsored DEFORMITY makes you cry WELFARE for my MAMA.
Barberians move into South America
US builds up its bases in oil-rich South America http://tinyurl.com/yaw67wk
Frances…my point comes swingin’ out of some Darwinian, Benthemite grove of trees, just in time…in the form of MEP…where are my elves when I really need ‘em…..Feminine as BUREAUCRATIC-TECNNO-CRANKY NOISEE NONSENSE MEANT TO DIM & DIMINISH ALL SENSES BY THOSE OSCILLATING VENGEFUL OVERDOSES OF ESTROGEN in pursuit of yesterday’s NEWS.
News From The Barberians
Forced labour and rape, the new face of slavery in America http://tinyurl.com/yzjebdx
Report: CIA torture prison found in Lithuania http://tinyurl.com/yjd3p5a
As deaths in Afghanistan rise, so does the growth of opium http://tinyurl.com/yjd3p5a
Lacrimosa. The most delicate.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqPz5B-TA1w
@Mep
No probs….er… for want of a better expression…. you keep it real… I love jibber jabber, chit chat… etc… but ultimately talk is cheap!!!
WELL, Jim. At least Idiot Savants have fun.
Here’s heaven, Jim:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Gx-N-kdIXk
@frances – Many thanks for the cream tip. The bruises aren’t bad as far as pain; I do have throbbing & radiating pain alongside the bone just below my right ear . . . it hurts a little just to turn my head. I didn’t know that I got hit there until I tried to go to sleep last night and couldn’t b/c it was throbbing so bad. The worst of it is coming to grips with who did it, and in knowing that she cares not at all that she terminated our relationship forever last night.
@ Phil – Thanks for the link about the grammar/comprehensive schools. I think it’s generally true that at all levels, class divisions are reproduced. To a certain degree, it’s inevitable. One of the biggest concerns that I have now for our education system is the push for more privatization. I think it’s unfortunate that Obama’s Ed. Secretary is a believer in transforming more public schools into charter schools. The guy has a BA in sociology, which leads me to believe that he had a pretty superficial education, himself, because I know very few sociologists or educators who think that further gutting public education is a good thing.
@ Supergeek – Don’t know what I’ve done to deserve being “the heartbeat,” but thanks for being sweet. I hope Don’s okay, too. Last I knew, he was thinking about letting his place go into foreclosure, and then either getting out of the country or trying to live in a mobile home somewhere.
@ all – The EPA found uranium in Nevada’s water wells:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/21/epa-uranium-from-polluted_n_366529.html
The article says that nobody knows yet who will pay for the cleanup. Methinks the name of the polluter would be a good start, but then again, that’s just silly talk to expect that corporations be accountable for their actions.
then Frances…both Heaven & Hell would Eternally DISAPPOINT>…more broken dreams…like I told Ya’…Impressions, Sentiments & a room full of Idiot Savants.
@Jim:
What if my heaven is to make your hell?
“Before the sand runs out.”
Silica is the most abundant mineral on the earth. Not much danger of that.
I love Glenn Campbell!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JoXKpHKgUg
Frances…get a wife…get a life.
GET REAL>>>>Before the sand runs out.
Frances..my HELL…is//would be listen’ to you more than once a day.
Why must you wallpaper me with labels? Am I a pickle jar? Screw Descartes.
Frances…you keep this up… & soon,I’m goin’ to be chirpinn’ & shitten’ Glen Campbell.
Why skirt the issue, Jim? Is marginalizing my words by dressing them in tip-type minis aiding your escape?
I can imagine Jim’s hell. Full of hot rocks represented by periodic progressions into an eternity of boredom.
…..was….I …..right?
Frances…your ESTRANGEMENT,DISMEMBERMENT,HOMELESSNESS …courtesy of Stacy’s Mssr. Descartes is LITERAL, LIVING HELL enough (bastante) pour Moi.
Frances…you are a disgusting…girley want-to-b-a-lawyer fer ETERNITY typed.
BTW…your scientism is weak & embarrassing.
And why do you assume I adhere to Rand? Ayn Rand and I are not even acquainted: she desecrates free thought through her rationalism and materialism.
Oh, no. Mustn’t think that. Might not be rational. Oh and that exists outside myself because we all agree it does. Even though no one can agree on we.
@Jim
I don’t care about what country you do or don’t live in… though I do feel some places are less tainted by the west and solitude is still available if that is what you seek… I was only trying to make a point about people being in touch with themselves and being able to act on it!!!
Bobby Rubin’s Welt is packed with Full-Moons as WELL…..it’s that Emerson in ‘im me guess.
Methinks you protest too much, Lord Jim. So? You do believe in a literal “hell” don’t you. All those who try to control the beliefs of others through a concensus called truth usually have a place to put those who are, er, difficult.
And if one always has full moons then there would be no descriptive term for full moon seeing as definitions are based on the reliance on the absence of the quantifier. We define day by the absence of night.
You represent the patriarchy which defines life through the death of the feminine. Your moon is always dark.
Frances…another read: Eric Voegelin.
Frances…who are you shitin’???…you incinerate Spirits…with cans of RAID….or Rand…or, whoever’s up next in the Humanism CHAMBER.
Frances…..Amout Sui…as Amour Dei…Feminista Gnosticism…quit your bitchin’ & get back in the kitchin’….
Frances..you are one pissed-off[ed] PAGAN…..be glad to meet you next to that whispering pine…three-deep in the land of the perpetual full-moons.
Bees & trees don’t get THAT.
I’m not a tree nor a bee, and I think you’re full of it. Mercy deigned on us humans by whom? You’re denying others the agency of the imagodei and yet revel in your own pure science.
You most probably have some theorem for the rubbish bin of souls, eh? Some hot spot for those who dare to stand full tall to your imagined lord of the dance?
Humans are Principles; NOT agents. Imago Dei is Purpose; NOT WILL( craving//cunning). Only in moments of Mercy do we RIVAL(not OPPOSE) the Creator. Mercy is the Supreme Apprehension…Mercy underscores the Joy & Celebration in the inclusion(Gift) of the Mystery….Bees & trees don’t get THAT. Contradiction is the Consummate Non- Linear Logic(logos)….Billy Shakepierre Understood….very cata-holica.
Most of what//that transpires as human action(agency) is nothing more that than cheap, very worn SEDUCTION.
Sensuality as opinion…now that’s truly Perverse(inverted).
Supergeek…assumes there are countries to leave and therefore; i.e.: countries to go to(like Max & Stacy)…. Eden on the left: Eden on the right…touchdown, touchdown…fight, fight fight…….more impressions & sentiments I suggest….or, at least strongly SUSPECT…(the usual idiot savant suspicions.)
The loss of 7.3 million jobs since the recession began in December 2007, the biggest drop of any postwar economic slump. More than 1 million people will run out of unemployment benefits in January unless Congress quickly extends federal emergency aid.
Mint calculates that 5% of US taxpayers account for 60.6% of all tax revenue; and 46.9% will pay no federal taxes in 2009.
About 7 million properties are destined to go into foreclosure. One in 7 U.S. mortgages foreclosing or delinquent http://tinyurl.com/yj7j7qt Commercial Real Estate Will Collapse http://tinyurl.com/ykdyu65
A new study finds three-fourths of the young males in the United States are unfit to serve in the military. Around 90 retired officers put a report together called “Ready, Willing and Unable to Serve.” The report finds most young men in the country cannot serve because of obesity, poor health or education, or criminal records.
UAL Corp., US Airways Group Inc., and eight other companies paid executives $350 million in the five years before the United States was forced to take over their underfunded employee pension plans, a government report said. Executives Took $350 Million in Pay as Pensions Ended http://tinyurl.com/y8qfba5
One airline company missed $979 million in required pension contributions while its top three executives took $55.5 million in compensation, and another paid four executives $120.4 million amid two bankruptcies, a Government Accountability Office report found yesterday. Data including dates of the pension terminations, stock awards, and pay levels show the unnamed companies were UAL, the parent of United Airlines, and US Airways.
Benefits to retirees were cut in some cases by as much as two-thirds, as executives got salary increases, stock awards, retention bonuses, and other pay, the GAO said in a report that studied pension takeovers from 2002 through 2005.
From: Fed Threats To The Dollar, Real Threats To Your Life by Bob Chapman http://tinyurl.com/yat6uu2
@Y’all
after reading nearly every comment made in the first say six months of this site… I had a thought… the heartbeat and soul of this site IMO are and always will be, Mep = Heartbeat and Don = Soul… after that who I don’t really give a shit…I don’t always agree with either of them very much and Don very rarely. in fact he used to frighten the life out of me a lot… I respect Mep because she actually rolls up her sleeves and trys to deal with real life with the real people on the ground in the ‘war’… and Don because love him or hate him, he was as truthful as the day is long and a true american… and a pioneer who knew when to leave his country behind and head to the jungle… so wherever he is best of luck… same to you too Mep!!!
Jim is the god of the missing chalkboard.
MEP!!
Might I say you seem to me to be the mirror image of Stacy!
Opportunity is the forged land of Impressions & Sentiments.
Nicely put!
Books are written by those who know little for those that think they know even less. Both//either need to believe Something(imitate Something).
Darwin: the god of the missing fossil record.
Marx: the god of the missing factory floor.
Freud: the god of the missing bedroom.
Histoouy is mostly about BETRAYAL & INCEST.
Opportunity is the forged land of Impressions & Sentiments.
@Max,
Grand unified inflation/deflation theory. So what you’re saying is that the macro trend is global cooling; and although there was (is? according to anecdotal evidence of shorts in Nov. in Paris) evidence of global warming, it’s just a blip in the overall trend?
So is Gold deflating? Or are prices just deflating in gold prices?
@frances snoot
Ahahha! Like that. I am very bad at “reading” someones temper – from the blogs I mean. But now I see you discribe it I think it’s true.
Better Frances?
Yes, OP. Nothing that a good wine won’t cure.
@y’all
grammer schools are still around…. they just went private that’s all… same game with another name!!!
Maxkeiser.com Metaphoria
Max: Mike King Look-a-like
Stacy: cute Doe with a temper
Phil: Rock of Gilbraltar
Youri Carma: Pacific Ocean
Dedo: Shamrock
Supergeek: Emphemeral cloud
Guiseppi: Dove
MotherEarth: Staghorn deer
OP: Pit Bull
Gordo: Beach Peep birdie
WL:Fox
Will: Robin
MiniUS: Passenger Pigeon
BF.Skinner: Barn Owl
………jim………well……..mule donkey……..what else?
Mr.Cork: Draught of Ale
Dante: Hawk
Mongo: Silver-earringed Pirate
Fibon11235: Constellation
Bonn: South America tree toad
DanValley: Desert fox
JustGetItRight: Exclamation Point
Alister: Spanish Dancer
ScottfromOregon: Snowflake
Photoception: Raindrop
AdamC: Bison
whew did I forget someone?
@Supergeek
Stupid questions – Stupid answers.
Frankly I dispise the Dutch cause they are much more ignorant MTF’s than even the Americans. They wouldn’t even notice enetring into the gas chambers they are so fuckin stupid. They havn’t got the slightest idea what is going on now in the States and they will never find out cause by that time they will all die from their freaken vaccins and stuff.
Phil: You made some comment about how great grammar schools are…
… You then went on to explain building pressure in society at that time to create equal opportunities for others, and your resentment of that due to a perceived injustice.
What you experienced is the flip-side to a coin which those excluded from the grammar school system endured far longer. Hence – in the sixties, things boiled over.
Good luck to you…. I am not jealous. And, by the way, I just lurve books too… all learning in fact. Reading is not an exclusive pastime for the noble elite. And yes comprehensives are a bit rough, some kids do not adapt well to the pressures of having to compete for everything at a ‘street’ level.
However, segregation is wrong in all walks of life and grammar schools did not provide a fair or equal method of education. It nurtured flaneurs and factory workers. Officers and squaddies. A corrupt mentality.
Saint Nicholas – Sinter Klaas (Sint Nicolaas- Sinter Claes)- Santa Claus http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Claus
Better Frances?
Amerikans are people who, at first ,took the opportunity to break the “jail’: shortly thereafter, they learned they had an even bigger opportunity to run the “jail”..Soo tragic, soo disgraceful…EXPLOITERS; NOT LOVERS. CALGARY STANDS.
The Bears and Banana Slugs Have Awoken !
Kids on the west coast stepping up to the plate
over 32% increase in tuition.
http://cbs2.com/national/UC.berkeley.protesters.2.1325672.html
@youri
er thanks for the history lesson… not!… if you have to ask such a stupid question… youri it don’t matter …wake up and try and get some sleep!!!
Santa Claus is a Sinterklaas derivative made up by Coca Cola who made Santa Great in the States – LOL
Tank tops, beujolais, mash potato and clememt Parisian evenings doesn’t get better much than that.
@Supergeek
Sinterklaas is the Baas and I am gonna talk forever and ever about Americans. What about Sinterklaas anyways?
Your Coca Cola Santa is derived from our Sinterklaas – Santaclaus.did you know that?
btw: Love The Polar Express gonna look it again this X-maz and The Shining also.
@frances snoot
Well of cause when I say Americans I mean the criminal American government. But in the news and blogs we use this simplification, needless to say but necessary this time it seems.
When they say Dutch this and that in the news I don’t feel it as a personal thing.
@youri
what ya saying about xmas you gonna do something about your countries sinteraasklaas bullshit or maybe just shut up about americans forever???
the Zorastrians called Evil, Satan, Darkness, Death…the BIG LIE.
Max..your comments about “education” are so sadly, so threateningly…spot ON…..The Indoctrination to the Lie; the Immunization to the Reality.
@phil
ex pats talking about the old country and the labour party… give me break… you wanted to leave.. but there you are still stuck in the past… life moves on and so did you… let it go… as for ‘bettering yourself’ when talking about money… c’mon… ooh working class made good there is another sad expression!!!
@Youri:
The world’s seems to be turning so it thinks it can see the dark side of the moon. Well, Youri Carma. If it makes you feel righteous and you’ll sleep better go ahead and label me barbarian, American, or a joint-killer of Iraqis. I won’t be much but dust soon anyway, so when I blow past your window I’ll be sure and say, “booh”.
@frances snoot
Yep I have…’vgot my FREEDOM OF SPEECH. But a Barberian wouldn’t understand that. Killing a 100,000 Iraqies fals in the category Barberian.
@Super,……let it out,..just let it out,..: )
Demons BEGONE!!
Gold ETF Impact 5
Adam Hamilton November 20, 2009 3030 Words
http://www.zealllc.com/2009/gldetf5.htm
Talks about (physical) Gold and ( ETF ) GLD !
Just reading – Adam Hamilton is usually very good reading .
@SG .. if I’m supposed to take your remarks seriously, well, I suppose I’d better continue…
a) I have known a lot of snobs and I am not one of them
b) I have “earned” every penny and have never been privileged except by the people that trusted my work and paid me for it
c) I have lived in rough areas and prefer not to go back there
In the 60′s in the UK, there was a lot of “anti snobbery” around , propagated especially by the Labor Party. Anyone who wanted to get on was considered a snob and was mobbed or beaten up if he was in the wrong school. It was very much a case of everyone preferring their neighbour to be one of the “have nots” or else he was suspicious and disliked because he/she tried to get on. Pseudo-communism if you like.
This was not just the case in schools, but also in British companies where there was “them” and “us” segregation.
A little story…
I worked on an assembly line at IBM in South England for a while on a 6 month contract. Some of the guys were on heavy drugs, and I remember always giving a particular druggie called “Tom” some of my “assemblies” so that he didn’t get sacked … he introduced me to Joni Mitchell for which I am eternally grateful. Our particular line-manager was very narrow mined and got a lot of contra from me , because I always stuck up for the workers on the line that were IMO treated with a lack of respect. One day, that manager called me into his office 1 month before my contract was due to end, and started off with “Phil, you’re a very intelligent guy, so …..” — the rest I knew before he said it. I told him what I thought about his management style, and got sacked with 4 weeks free pay , i.e. he wanted me off the site before there was a revolution caused by my presence.
By coincidence, at the same time while I was working there, I used to play squash with the managing director, a very nice guy … he told me a few months later that the assembly line guys had gone on strike and as a result , the manager had been “re-deployed” elsewhere.
I also applied for a programming job there afterwards. The interview that the personell department gave me was like a police interrogation. It put me off completely , and thought “What a bunch of w*nkers”.
Their pathetic aptitude test, I passed with 100% BTW .. it was I that said no to them .
Glad I didn’t take the job, because I would othersie missed a very inetresting career path afterwards.
If you want to be one of the “have nots” , best of luck.
If you want to get on in life, it doesn’t make you a snob does it !
@frances
typo: superconduit!
ZERO Interest is INFINITE…no beginning, no middle,no end)no hinges)…no present, no past, no future—the ABYSS….NO REALITY. Infinite will DEVOUR FINITE, obviously…This all remains strictly POLITICAL….Math beats back the on-surge of the Masses. After this Surreal feature exhausts itself…LOOK OUT.
YOU JUST LEFT ME A REAL POST AND NOT A BLANK ONE!
Supergeek! The horrid metallic conduit has delivered you from jinx!!!
my thoughts about what Super said
It’s true that there is a system of importance everywhere and that education plays into that system. But that doesn’t make education bad. A gun is not the murder weapon: it is a man pulling the trigger. As long as one is free to better oneself then one should take advantage to do so: be it reading, or sports, or art, or music, or just nature loving. That’s easy.
What’s hard is allowing the bitterness to go away for wanting to be important. Important is nothing really except a chance to stand uptop a dirt mound for a bit and shout. No one is going to care when the stander is just as much dust as the mound.
And being thankful is more important than having a lot of nice stuff. Being free is most important of all: more important than living even.
@frances
conduit!!!
@Supergeek:
Books are nice. The nice part about books is they don’t hurt you. They are friends in fair and foul.
If I have put myself over anyone due to liking to read, then forgive me. But I think it is a good thing to go to college to learn other people’s perspectives. If college is a free environment to speak, that is.
I don’t believe that education is an indicator of intelligence. Education is a tool.
If you want to learn things, Supergeek, then do it. You don’t have to go to school to read books. And saying books are bad is really a sad choice.
Once again…Ms. Stacy…INFINITE is Pure Descartes. The Seller of the OPTION has INFINITE RISK.n The buyer has Finite Risk.
No Math will allow the absurdity of Finite ==Infinite. Only a Cartesian Deformity(Imagination; just Desire).
Virtuality is Infinite
Reality is Finite.
Back //Forward to Eden is a Cartesian Impulse.
@Y’all
No compute… y’all gonna tell me how superior you were to at school again or maybe your qualifications or chosen field…. fuck school fuck your degrees and fuck your profession… just get to the point…formal education… don’t seem to have done all Y’all any good… some of you can’t even listen to a song or hear a joke without worrying what it’s supposed to mean… or trying putting your stamp on it and usually being wrong… hey but that’s just my opinion…. don’t let me stop you from bangin’ on your drums and recommending or hiding behind the same three books over and over!!!
Some of us are awake, some of us are asleep , some of us just don’t care and like being used and abused.
All politicans are the same. If they begin their careers with good intentions, they are bought out of their moralistic ventures with cold hard cash , if this does not work, they are killed or inlfected with a well known deadly disease.
The system as a whole must be destroyed, not one part of it is viable.
True capitalism, socialism, communism no longer exits. All that exists is corporatism , corruption, false statistics , and twisted markets. This is all sprinkled in with media propoganda barrages, mass ugenics programs and greed.
The WWF is more real than what many of us take for reality.
@Dedo:
Nope. Animal, not vegetable or mineral.
“Is it realistic to expect a bunch of 18 year old people just entering college to assemble in protest of a war?”
The Iraq war began in 2003. That would mean the 18-year-olds were 12 at the time the war started. But maybe those 12-yr-olds were born to Americans who might have protested: perhaps they did. But even if the 18-year-olds did not have an opportunity to protest they would be called into guilt under a system of collective scapegoating run by the Eurocrats.
It makes you wonder why Stacy and Max refuse to address the UN mandates which have prolonged the Iraq war. That would mean all of Europe lies in collective guilt seeing as the Security Council is represented by:
“There are 15 members of the Security Council, consisting of five veto-wielding permanent members (China, France, Russia, United Kingdom, United States) and ten elected non-permanent members with two-year terms. This basic structure is set out in Chapter V of the UN Charter.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council
@Frances,..Water?
@Phil
or maybe just insecure like all the other math and grammer POLICE!!!
I agree with Phil,…everyone learns at different levels, try not to take offense Super!
@Dedo:
Well?
@phil
maybe nine and a half… who’s counting (other than you) it don’t mean anything to me the fact that is all you can pick up on shows a real lack of imagination on your part and confirms you are a snob IMO!!!
@Y’all
‘Peace OK…I don’t play’…. except… with squaddies… here is this years fave game… example… yesterday two sqaddies walked past me in uniform… just as they started to pass… I clapped my hands loudly by deh ears and shouted “BOOM!… the next time you hear that sound will be before you DIE MURDERING SCUM!!!”… IMO… I find sometimes you gotta just roll up your sleeves and take it to the street… and it’s also great for focusing Mind and Body which is more important the older you get I find… never let an oppurtunity pass you by lifes too short and the work is long Y’ALL!!!
@SG .. I was expelled at the age of ten I think… and I never went back or looked back.
Impressive … age of 10 “I think” ? … so you hadn’t learned to count by then ?
PS: I’m not “stuck up” BTW !
@BF skinner
Probably relvant to your question: I wonder why the young are so disenfranchised in society. Why can’t 12 year olds vote? Why could they not object to the war? They function as an exploitation tool to get to the income of the parents, and are used as cannon fodder in unprovoked wars, then (if they are smart) made hostage of ant university system, to start working out of debt. It seems virtually every avanu of exploitation of the young is covered..
Is it realistic to expect a bunch of 18 year old people just entering college to assemble in protest of a war?
Those that debate within a system, about the system, are bound by it’s rules, and are lost forever in its absurdity.
Only a few dare walk on the grass! : )
@spellchecker
I could smell hypocrites and liars by the time I was seven… and another advantage of taking care of yourself at that age was after two years of school at most… I was expelled at the age of ten I think… and I never went back or looked back… yeah even then… I would fuck with anything that moved if it bullshitted me!!!
YOURI CARMA YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO GO ROUND CALLING AMERICANS BARBARIANS WHEN YOU EAT RAW MEAT FOR BREAKFAST.
@OP:
Can we see your pup bum-side-back now and face-side-forward? He’s cuter that way!
Tell em I said, Heh.
Glenn Beck’s Crocodile tears Exposed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kj4I2f0ZO6g
UK British Gas TV ad background message WTF!
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/d0204e96e2.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/user/britishgas
@phil
seperate em all I say… rich and poor… labour and tory…. boys and girls… black and white… maan you are one fucking stuck up, snob, showing your true clours eh…BLUE???
Yay! It’s a new show!
@Frances, TA, needed that
@ptah
ditto!!!
“I also agree with Bill Moyers that a draft should be reinstated.”
Right. A draft will end the war. And destroying villages is the way to make em grow. And Bill Moyers is important so he can spout the lies and kill the young with his influence.
But, Frank. You should take care for your own words are a’slayin the young as well.
It bears repeating as its the little things that offer the biggest insite….in hindsite naturally.
Oprah prepares to board escape pod ends show in 2011.
http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?rn=3906861&cl=16752264&ch=4226715&am
p;src=news
Or is it that she knows the fallout to come with regards to the current administration and fervent support there of.
People give up on power positions only in matters of self-preservation.
Bonn, real estate and land are leveraged assets that could see their prices fall regardless of sentiment due to an erosion of banks’ deposit bases forcing further credit contraction. There is no motive to keep fiat currency in bank accounts at no interest.
Less than a quarter percent of Americans owning gold is even worse than I suspected. Sounds like extremely easy pickings for the government to me. Considering what they did after their little Sept 11th slight of hand, in the rubble of busted banks, unions, pensions, and safety nets, Americans should be expecting another New Deal type theft. Except in this age, hiding gold ownership will be far more difficult and dangerous. If a digital currency is brought in, good luck getting fair value for criminally owned gold.
Stella!
Yes,Ma?
You put that turkey in the deep fryer yet? I’m a’mixin up the cornbread and the snap peas is setting to cool.
Ma! I’m a’skeered of that hot fat! Seems likely to spill. Why don’t we just put this’n here de-feathered mon-stro-sity in the bakeoven?
Stella! That’s how them Yankees cook’n their birds. Seems fine nuff to take some heat out’er the house rather than bring more in!
Okay, Ma, But I don’t know why we celerbrate Thanksgiving anyhoot. Seems like the world is a nasty place an all. What we got to be THANKFUL fur?
Pa! Ya done heard it?
Steller-whatz-fur-Sam-hills-gotten-into-ya?
Pa. Why DO we gotta eat turkey deep a’swimmin in it’s own pool of fat?
Come here, Peanut. Thanksgiving is bout family and being thankful. That ‘air turkey ain’t family, is he?
Nosir.
Stella. When the ocean meets the sky, what you call it?
Don’t rightly know, Pa. Wet?
Yep, Peanut. It’s gonna rain sure nuff. When Thanksgivin comes round here we meetin with yur Aunt Lucy-Mae, Billy-Bob Junior, Dexter, Abacus, RonPaul Sr., Jesse, and StacyLuHu, and MaxLeeJr. It’s sure nuff rainin family!
Shoot, Pa. If’n we skip outter here, maybe I don’t have to sit next to Billy-Bob. He chews louder than Bounteeful eating sugar cubes.
You be a’thankful you gotz a family, Stella-Jean-Louise. Seems like yer a might darn uppity with that there schoolin you brung to home. Whatz important in life is family, and THAT’S Thanksgivin ferya.
Okay. But Pa? I’m settin to be a vegeetariun after this lump-of-fat-fried-fowl.
Goldman Sachs Profits Don’t Ease Blog Problem
Goldman Sachs Wants Angry Blogger to Cease and Desist
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/Technology/story?id=7328093&page=1
@ frances snoot – Yes I was totally against Iraq and the Banker Bailout. I called my representatives in Congress and would have been happy to have participated in protests, but none happened.
I also agree with Bill Moyers that a draft should be reinstated. That would keep the US out of these foreign wars. In addition there should be a ban on the use of contractors by the military. This is another way that the human cost of war is kept from impacting US society, which serves to make it more palatable. The result is the War Profiteers can continue to pilfer the US taxpayer.
Have you read the Copenhagen Treaty ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuQ6TUuYYR8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gEpa0ygjuE&feature=rec-HM-fresh+div
Glenn Beck & Lord Monckton.
16 minutes.
I cannot believe that the argument persists big-upping segregated education.
The failure of the comprehensive system was due to many ex grammer school types wanting to keep the great unwashed in the dirt.
The notion that grammer schools were open to all is also untrue. Despite my folks passing 11+, they had to forego that ‘elite’ pathway due to family poverty and enter the workplace early. A comprehensive system would have ensured they got good qualifications prior to entering the workplace.
Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid (exploding train stunt) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lOSH2QMdqw
There was a huge outpouring against the banker bailout in America. The switchboards at the Congressional offices were brought DOWN by the number of calls nine to one against. The House voted no first, then the Senate took the bill and added it as an amendment to another bill. So the bailout was not constitutional when it passed because it did not clear the House.
@Max/Stacy
Can we do a gold prediction game with next weeks treasury auctions? Dollar should go up, gold down until the end of the week..
“I have to agree with Max with his lack of sympathy for the students in California who have been hit with a large tuition increase. The time to protest and take over buildings was as Max says when the war in Iraq was launched. It was also when the Banker Bailout was proposed”
@FrankHope:
You and Max were out protesting for both the war and the bailout, right? If not, then how can you possible be so heartless for the youth who are trying to better themselves only to make a decent wage?
Day After tanks giving: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlK62rjQWLk
@Mep:
I think the best approach at present here in the US against the Afghan war or the Pakistan war of the anything other war is to show the people that America is fighting for the UN mandates and resolutions coming out of the Security Council and administered through NATO juridiction.
Arnica cream is good for bruises.
Stacey, I have left comments for Max on Facebook but I do not know if he has seen them. This is an unrelated story but it could be something he can discuss on the show.
http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article14996.html (“Gold Finger – A New Take on Operation Grand Slam with a Tungsten Twist” by Rob Kirby). The atricle tells how China took physical delivery of gold bars from a US bank. The Chinese had some the bars drilled and found tungsten inside. Note that tungsten has approximately the same density as gold. More fraud by the banksters? Maybe. See if Max can take a look at this and possibly discuss this on the show.
@Mep .. found a link / Grammer versus Comprehensive Schools
Page 131 :
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The grammar school, which had no class barriers and provided equal opportunity for all who were capable of profiting from it, was one of the most potent democratic influences in society … A neighbourhood comprehensive school which abandoned intellectual segregation would put social segregation in it’s place .
…
http://books.google.com/books?id=kcsNAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA129&lpg=PA129&dq=how+the+labour+government+comprehensive+grammar+schools&source=bl&ots=YKgi2_2fsf&sig=6I81oGYchqgM1SfLbG6rEnwyHgQ&hl=en&ei=SmAIS-TfBZLz_Ab40PWSBA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=8&ved=0CCgQ6AEwBw#v=onepage&q=how%20the%20labour%20government%20comprehensive%20grammar%20schools&f=false
@Mep … Today’s universities have become just another part of the plantation landscape
How true .. and that’s without even considering whether the UCLA students were protesting the protesters .
The education system has had some serious ” dumbing down ” it seems … from primary school onwards.
Sad !
PS:
I went to 3 senior schools in total in the 60′s.
I passed my 11+ exam and would have normally gone to a grammar school, but there wasn’t one in the area where I lived at the time .
The order was :
a) a comprehensive school
b) a grammar school
c) a grammar school that turned comprehensive while I was still there
I discovered that the segregation of pupils worked best.
The academics who all wanted to learn got on well together.
The secondary school pupils were more or less more interested in handy-work professions – mechanic, plumber etc. and they all got on very well together.
Mixing the two together was a disaster, such that the almost class warfare developed — the academic class versus the practical class.
I discovered recently via an Internet article , that a member of the Labor Government of the time had had such a hatred of the “academic class” that he vowed to destroy every grammar school in England …and he won it seems !
Maybe I’ll go and look for that article .. it was pretty shocking !
The Fed’s balance sheet swelled to its largest point since December as its holdings in agency and mortgage-backed securities increased, data released.
Balance sheet liabilities had expanded to $2.19T as of Nov. 19, the highest point recorded since liabilities hit $2.25T on Dec. 31, 2008. The Fed’s holdings of mortgage-backed securities increased to $847B, from $776B a week earlier, while its agency debt ownership rose to $153B from $150B.
The Fed has said it will continue its support for markets with ongoing purchases of securities, buying $1.25T worth of mortgage-backed securities and $175B in bonds issued by Fannie Mae ( FNM), Freddie Mac (FRE) and the Federal Home Loan Bank System.
Mortgage backed securities are OTC derivatives. Wonder who will get banged here???
Trichet also spoke out over bankers bonuses.
“Profits earned should be used, as a priority, to build capital and reserves rather than to be paid out as dividends or undue compensation,” he urged.
“The financial sector must not forget that it is to serve the economy and not the other way round,” he concluded.
“Compensation and bonuses must remain contained.”
If he represents the european fed (does he?) then he at least makes the right noises..
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8371011.stm
@ Phil – I wondered the same thing when I heard Max say that. At any rate, he’s right about universities needing to be changed. Today’s universities have become just another part of the plantation landscape. (See The Neoliberal University”: http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=11223 )
@ Stacy & Max – Sound quality was tops . . . must’ve been that chocolate syrup and honey that did the trick.
Max, according to my sister-turned-belligerent monster (thanks, US military!), the kids with their faces in the dirt over in Bangladesh are happy to have their faces there, and people such as yourself have no right to speak of it because you are not directly affected in any way. I was naked during you guys’ show, too–listening to part of it in the bath; I’m still finding bruises on my legs, neck, behind my ears–in places where I don’t recall being hit. She’ll likely be among the crowds gathered early on Black Friday outside Wall-mart. Peeps better hope that they don’t grab the last of whatever piece of plastic is in this year from her. Giving cheap plastic shit to her kids is the only way she knows of to show love, and she needs to buy a whole lot of it to try to make up for being an abusive tool.
On Friday, November 20, 2009 Commerce Bank of Southwest Florida, Fort Myers, FL was closed by the Florida Office of Financial Regulation, and the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC) was named Receiver. No advance notice is given to the public when a financial institution is closed.
Here is Gerry Celente— The Great Depression of 2012
The greatest bank robbery in world history, but the banks are the thieves. A big currency crisis will happen by late March 2010. Anti-immigration, becomes big issue next year.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgJjr-kX7KI&feature=player_embedded#
anyway I´d like to see the link concerning that
warning concerning the Ukraine outbreak!!!
from AJ poster
The guy who was arrested” JOSEPH MOSHE”, is not a Mossad Agent, and he is not “mysterious” or “missing” like many people online have been parroting.
JOE MOSHE is sitting in a jail in Los Angeles county right now you fools.
His BOOKING Number is 2019293 . He is being held at the Twin Towers Correctional facility (yes weird name but true) located at 450 Bauchet Street in Los Angeles.
You can even call to confirm with the clerk that he’s there.
Phone number is 213-473-6080.
Joseph Moshe DOB:12/5/1952
Arresting agency LAPD- Metro division. Booking location 4273.
If you think I’m full of crap, try looking up the info yourselves. Next time do research before you panic and post false info. Snap out of it Infowars.
Another enjoyable and edifying hour spent in the company of Stacy and Max.
I have to agree with Max with his lack of sympathy for the students in California who have been hit with a large tuition increase. The time to protest and take over buildings was as Max says when the war in Iraq was launched. It was also when the Banker Bailout was proposed. The students need to make the connection between the current government crisis and the transfer of funds to the Banksters and the War Profiteers. This is not Capitalism – this is Welfare for the Rich.
As Stacy says, this is the new Feudalism. Or as I stated back in October 2008:
Another way of looking at this is that America will become a colony of the International Bankers. And we will be forced to pay tribute in the form of taxes and inflation and usage fees for the highways and airports that we used to own. The thing that makes this such a diabolical scheme is that the average American will never realize that he or she has become a slave and especially won’t realize who his or her master really is. We will blame the government, but the government will be powerless to make any changes or to defend us.
The International Banker’s China Syndrome
Oh and Majestic get your facts straight – drought = good wine
Wow it takes sooo long to catch up with all the posts especially with a bad head from too many beers:
My take is this:
Climate change – invented by Evil power hungry bastards
Financial system – invented by Evil power hungry bastards
Suppression of the people – invented by Evil power hungry bastards
Wars – invented by Evil power hungry bastards
Laws – invented by Evil power hungry bastards
Religion – invented by Evil power hungry bastards
Well this is IMHO anyway
haha,
A bit of a misunderestimation
I got the cache blues.
Can it be?
first??
Hey guys i was hoping around the web and found ‘ THE SECRET OF OZ’ movie and i just ordered it. The thing is Amazon kicked him off there site once they realized what his movie was about. Come to find out the founder of Amazon Had worked for Banks in the past and started up some derivatives for those banks go figure. But it would be cool if Max would either talk about the movie or label it on your site so people could find out about it. just a thought.
ZH output gap fallacy.
Further, productivity data measures include outsourced foreign production.
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/why-output-gap-inflation-model-may-be-fatally-flawed
re: dollar jab
You can’t call it a victory yet for gold, Max. The referee blocked the punch.
I think a dollar short squeeze would hurt the Dow more than Gold though.
@Max … is that true ?
…. UCLA Students were protesting against the “protesters against war ” …
Are you serious .. I must have missed that one !
@ Bonn
Gary Taubes writes that cancer is caused by our modern diet–mainly carbohydrate consumption.
Yeah, I always imagined that behind the scenes of TAM was something like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BK_0ONL17SE
Grand unified deflation inflation theory, cop out pick sides, you forget government debt increasing
The Grand eunuchfied theory, US$ is undergoing a controlled surgical castration.
Triffins dilemma. Kick the debt saturation game upstairs to the IMF, rinse repeat, debt peonage, ring around the rosie pocket full of ponzi
When will you have a live call in show sans honey and chocolate?
@M and S
I have been a regular visitor to the website for what would seem an eternity. Posting on very few occasions. I do not know what has happened but it would seem I have fallen onto some sort of “Moderation list.” I have heard of this happening before to another regular/multi poster. Any thoughts/explanation. My post are not offensive IMHO but who knows. Thin skinners abound. I will continue to read as alot of the posters links are invaluable. Good luck in the future.
n from what i gather Silver didnt follow Gold cause it has Industrial use plus da da da da …… do the math ……….Eco down Common sense again been carpet bombed
Mumble Mumble …
Did you know there is a coastal town in Wales called Mumbles … in fact they have their own bay – Mumbles Bay.
I won 2 of the 5 national championship races ( sailing ) there in 69. ca. 250 boats and Force 8 winds.
Dressed up in drag for the local disco.
Greta place Mumbles !
my advice to this Site has always been invest in Steel Cement or food products Screw GOLD personally i invest in Real Estate or land the things i mentioned are things people use
The Wall street poker story may just be a trick to get more job seekers into the poker rooms, very devious..
Hey all. Yep, the Great Global Warming Hoax is being brought into the light.
Strangely i was only taught history till Egypt when the Sumrians plus Incas no Incas were taught
Who is ” Nimrod ” peeps n who is her mum n stuff
Re; The Great Global Warming Hoax emails.
I love it when Saint Al Gore looks like a dick. Let’s not forget the rabid cultist.
I know Free Energy Exists Science is there
The Screw up is if it Exists “Every ones life becomes Free”
@maxkeiser.com
as always… cheers for the show… look forward to listening to it!!!
I am not special.