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So is this why we have an increase in troops in Afghanistan?
8 Stocks to Gain on Obama’s Afghan Plan: Analysts
http://www.cnbc.com/id/34223569/site/14081545
No more Plastic cards.
Money, Credit will be held and used from your mobile phone.
Just another application.
New Zealanders can relate to a ‘rusty spoon’ better
Oh gotta a lotta things to see and hear now
Jon Stewart
Alex Jones
And now Stacey & Max as well
@ Mini US
I heard China or Japan Started that some 3 years back
On thier metros just Slide your phone over the counter and then You get Charged
Man Hackers are gonna be the Next Billionares
Scoty Go Long on Hacker’s
Scoty “Errr emmm Bonn how do I do that ?”
RODFL
“The US money center banks are wielding weapons of financial mass destruction”
http://bit.ly/8J6Wvq
Hey Stacy.
I know those winemakers! The Family Dudes.
We are doing videos for them because they are pissed off at being marketed as 7 pound Aussie wine.
They are some of the guys we filmed on ‘Journey into Wine’ UK Travel Channel.
http://www.travelchannel.co.uk/series-info.asp?series=Journey+Into+Wine-+Australia&ID=1192
In the Eye of the Storm: Updating the Economics of Global Turbulence, an Introduction to Robert Brenner’s Update
“he blowing of asset bubbles is not an unfortunate side effect of regulatory capture or Wall Street’s greed. It was the only way governments could keep economic growth from falling below politically dangerous levels once traditional Keynesian methods of fiscal stimulus through deficit spending were no longer adequate to compensate for the sclerosis at the heart of the advanced capitalist economies: “worsening difficulties with profitability and capital accumulation.” Brenner labels this bubble-blowing “stock market Keynesianism” referring to deliberate measures by governments to steer credit into equity markets”
http://tinyurl.com/yg25ybo
Just wait until they realize they goit a biofuel surplus..
I hope the guardian succeeds in uncovering the mystery of Blair’s finances.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/dec/01/mystery-tony-blair-finances
Lol Jon says Dubai may have to change its name to “Du-sell” ROFL
Sprint’s 50 Million Customers Have Been Geo-Tracked 8 Million Times–in the Last Year
http://tinyurl.com/yawaypd
from the comments
“So, as they dust the powdered sugar from their jelly doughnuts off their fingers, the pair of officers sitting in their patrol car fire up the laptop and see where their wives/girlfriends are. Where that babe who came to the station last week spends her days or nights. And anything else they might find amusing.
And there’s NO requirement for a judicially-approved warrant?? Just go to the “law enforcement enabled” website, click, and snoop?
OK, Pandora; let’s see you get this one back in the box.”
@Mini US – are you ‘Wonderwoman?’ . . . the programme looks interesting, will check it out if I can; did you ever see Mondovino? Fantastic documentary.
Anyway I can short one of the pirate companies?
Some of these Somali companies have little to no business ethics – it might come back to bite them.
So there’s a huge shortage in clean water: http://www.who.int/mediacentre/news/releases/2004/pr58/en/index.html We have huge ice cubes floating in the oceans that obstruct transportation: 1 + 1 =. The logistics aren’t easy moving huge blocks of ice; maybe melt it partially store it in tankers for transportation? There are no problems only opportunities and solutions. but maybe it is god’s will that billions of people starve/have no acces to water?
@Joe – LOL, wait til they start getting hassled by the shareholder activists demanding they get some morals; or get hit with a hostile takeover and then the whole Somali pirate community gets saddled with debts . . . oh dear, they have opened a can of capitalist worms
Tony Blair, dead ringer of Prince Andrew?
Tony Rothschild Blair, that is.
Starting to see a pattern here with all the actors out there? The world is run as a family business, even though some of the players don’t know.
BTW that “Jewish” thing with the Rothschilds is a joke. They’re a different species, but like hiding behind convenient shields. At the top, they’re all related, Catholic, Muslim, whatever. (Like, Queen Victoria, 3/4 Rothschild, always hanging out at the Rothschild homes, but still reputed to be anti-semitic. The waters are so muddy.)
http://www.whale.to/b/hallett_b2.html
HOW TO TAKE OVER THE WORLD A Right Royal Con
a book by Greg Hallett.
The media is a Counter-Intelligence organisation. The media backs every war. The role of the media and embedded historians is to surround the truth with a bodyguard of lies.
Most of the British Royal family are illegitimate, including Queen Victoria, Prince consort Albert, King Edward VII and his son Winston Churchill. Winston Churchill was first cousin with Adolf Hitler’s father and uncle to Anthony Blunt, King Edward VIII and King George VI. Adolf Hitler’s grandfather ran the Rothschild Bank, the Bank of England, and was the first Jewish MP in British Parliament.
Prince Albert was also the son of a stable boy. Close to bankruptcy, the British Royal family were saved by another stable boy, John Brown, who went on to marry Queen Victoria after Albert ‘died’.
The British Royal family are a subset of the Rothschild family and the Rothschilds control all the wars and finances of the British monarchy. The British Royal family declare war as soon as the Rothschilds have completed their preparations.
Gotta stop playing here. Here’s a Blair hint:
http://www.whale.to/b/hallett_b2.html
Oops doubled up. Really gotta get away from this computer.
01 December 2009
Baltic Dry Index (BDI) -51 3836
http://www.dryships.com/pages/report.asp
Butterflies might make a comeback in the forest Max but honey bees wont!I suggest everyone goes long honey bees as the world is on the edge of a catastrophe.The end of the european honey bee thru a parasite will lead to starvation,actually might be a good idea as the californian almond crop wont get pollinated .Hence no more candybars.Max you’ve spoken about suicide bankers ,how about suicide bees?yep that’s right everyyear billions of aussie bees get sent to the US on a one way trip to pollinate their orchards due to the collapse of the US bee stock.Seems good old OZ is the only country left that has bees without the parasite.Probably Goldman Sacks parasite looking for a free ride?I’m betting on a new bee backed currency!Hell honey is sweeter than gold or wine for that matter!Check out a great doco that screened on Aussie tv here last night about the impending bee collapse,SBS tv at 830pm,bzzzzzzzing good!
@stacy
Hahah – they don’t know what they are getting into – Thug killers of Somalia want to resemble the Vampire Squid blood suckers (Goldman Sachs). – Either way they are stealing to make a profit.
Nice! the economy is a subset of ecology – i liked that.
A lot of anger towards Neo-liberalism European central banking fractional reserve system of credit expansion and environmental ‘rape’. Down with the central bank!
“It is not necessary to change. Your survival is not mandatory.” – W. Edwards Deming
@Stacy
Hahaha I had a crush on Wonderwoman when I was a little kid
Our French presenter on JIW said pretty much the same. Most of the mass produced Aussie wine is plonk. Its the good stuff that gets lumped in with it we want to change the image.
I’ll check Mondovino out, thanks.
You hit the nail on the head there Max. All your British listeners are piss drinking wankers.
The Hidden Cost of White-Collar Crime
http://tinyurl.com/yam8k9m
Just found out – The U.S. has 8,133.5 metric tonnes of gold (it is the world’s largest holder)
Well if you like Ice bergs ….. you’ve got some more comming
I remember an episode of a show called Salvage1 starring Andy Griffiths in the late 70′s or early 80′s in which they tried to steer an iceberg to a city that was in drought by putting a rocket mounted on top of the berg! needless to say it failed.But that was hollywood!NASA well that might be a different story.
The bankruptcy of the United States is now certain http://bit.ly/5vQk3S
@Joe
Yep saw that number too but it’s probably all replaced by tungsten by now – If you can’t Make it Fake it is the motto of the American economy.
LOL i was searching for a Vid on carry trade
LOL found max
http://www.daxdesai.com/2007/08/19/iceland-interest-rates-and-the-carry-trade-video/
@Stacy
Tomorrow Wonderwoman interviews the Dalai Lama.
That should be a cack
A new study by Fairness & Accuracy in Reporting reveals pro-war voices outnumbered anti-war ones by a huge margin — Democracy Now — http://bit.ly/7HLu9t
Media helping beat the war drum
@Joe – yes I watched that; NYTimes had 5 to 1 slant to pro-war commentary, while Washington Times had 10 to 1 ratio; the entirety of the NY Times anti-war commentary, however, came from one single source, Bob Herbert
Australia –> Emissions Trading Scheme gets voted out by the Aussies part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBzOpC5BBHE&feature=sub
Hi Stacy,/Max,
Could not agree more about the guys at financial sense.
During a period of change there are those who promote change on the basis of the status quo being unfair. however some of them are not for change, all they want it is that they themselves want the power, and don’t want a fair and free system. these guys are just self servicing wannabe bankers.
S.
PS@Australia –> Emissions Trading Scheme gets voted out by the Aussies part 1
The German Govt. has installed a variety of green taxes since years already.
RSA Audio: First as Tragedy, Then as Farce: the economic crisis and the end of global capitalism
http://tinyurl.com/yzv95o4
Friends of the Earth: cap and trade is a terrible idea.
http://tinyurl.com/yktbmds
@Stacy
Is Bob your brother? Are we talking media conglomerate conspiracy here? Alex Jones!! Or are you a Herbert evil pacifist communist pain aux chocolat conspiracy denier?!
@stacy
I think we need to implement some type of War tax or something to shutup these talking heads who have never seen war before but are willing to send the middle/lower class families kids off to war now that they cant find jobs…
Who Knows Who is Channel 4’s new website which shows who is connected to who in public life. You can help us build a network to show where power really lies in the UK
http://tinyurl.com/ygot4fr
A good wine is a wine that sells.
@Troy Ounce
“A good wine is a wine that sells” !???
Indeed the Barbarins ARE here! LOL
This might be interesting to some, obvious to one ! : )
http://www.tpuc.org/node/367
Jesse Ventura on Larry King 11-30-09
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_lprLC7Upk
Just maybe Just maybe
New Pres & CEO of General Motors: Prediction
Maryanne Keller [links below] who has been involved in the auto industry for over 40 years. She is also a “hard-ass” and has called correctly the decline in the industry for years, She would have not problem firing the entire current GM crew but most of all would tell the government czar to fuck-off.
Max will know exactly who she is as she was “the premere” auto analyst on Wall Street for years.
Link from her current company:
http://mkellerco.com/?page_id=2
To show the level of her thinking here is an old article from the Washington Post called “Dull At Any Speed”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/11/AR2005061100180.html
Better see it befor CNN says Copyright Infringement
John Exter’s Golden Pyramid
Tuesday, March 11, 2008 by Range Rider
John Exter worked for the New York Federal Reserve’s gold department long ago and he used the model of an inverted pyramid to explain the unwinding of money. Here’s the basic model.
Click On Image To Enlarge
http://rangerider.blogspot.com/2008/03/john-exters-golden-pyramid.html
Link courtesy of Nick :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gm7WK0UCYlU&feature=sub
The New Face Of The GOP : Finally a new leader emerges
http://tinyurl.com/yk6dcw8
Yes, let’s hope that de-globalization does continue. If it doesn’t, we’re going to be SOL when we are forced to attempt to pick up the slack of the ecosystems that provide $33 trillion annually in free services for us.
About species coming back, I wonder how much slowing down of trade it would take for that to happen. The other day, I watched Ed Norton’s Strange Days on Planet Earth; global warming aside, it’s really crazy how easy it is for globalized “invaders” to take down species.
Yes, and trees live of off what? CO2
So we are trying to starve nature
How arrogant of us humans
you still confuse CO2 and pollution
increase CO2>increase vegetation
Can the carry trade be quantified?
Is the rise in gold and lack of a rise the US$ after the Dubai news a “TELL” that the safety trade run o the US$ is false and really the safety run will be to gold?
IMO, the dramatic rise in the US$ in 2008 was actually driven by Bernankes 600 billion emergency swap with foreign central banks and not a safe haven trade as most claimed.
@ Youri Carma
Is a wine that does not sell a good wine?
Who decides? The Producer? The Consumer? The connoisseur? You?
@ gonzomarx- Hilarious!
@ WL – Yes, trees absorb co2. And we’ve never before required that so few of them absorb so much. It sounds like you think we should do our best to increase co2 in the atmosphere even more so that we’re feeding them properly.
@ Youri Carma .. French Wine
The Classing System for wine is “still” over 100 years out of date. There were protests in France about those vinyards keeping their “Grand Cru” ratings when their certificates are over 100 years old.
I steer clear of most French red wines , except the Medoc region and my #1 favourite, whichI can thoroughly recommend to everyone is St. Emilion. Margots are very very nice , but way too expensive.
I was delighted to see a German TV documentary dedicated to St. Emilion – their closing words were “Perfection itself ” .. although it’s still a matter of taste for many people.
With a St. Emilion, you can almost taste the gravel !
Sorry to keep on raving about St. Emilion , but please go out and buy one – 6 yrs. old with a good harvest will set you back ca. 30 Euros. Younger bottles are of course much cheaper, but you have to store them properly before drinking. Also … Medoc is ready to drink after ca. 6 years.
The TV documentary was very interesting.
The St. Emilion region belonged to the British Royalty in ca. 800 AD. The “water” was transported back to London for Royalty to drink. The town St. Emilion is sitting on a massive Wine Cellar – also ca. 1200 years old. There are daily inspections to make sure the supporting walls are OK !
Again, sorry about the rant, but I love St. Emilion and Medocs.
Chelsea Clinton Engaged to Goldman Sachs Man
Bill and Hillary Clinton’s daughter Chelsea is engaged to Goldman Sachs man Marc Mezvinsky.
Between 2007 and 2008, he donated $4,800 to Hillary’s presidential campaign.
http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2009/11/chelsea-clinton-engaged-to-goldman.html
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Chelsea Clinton Engaged
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/11/chelsea-clinton-engaged.html
Another of the same –>
China to increase gold reserves to 10,000 tons
http://www.commodityonline.com/news/China-to-increase-gold-reserves-to-10000-tons-23405-3-1.html
From Jim Sinclair : http://jsmineset.com/
@Max and Stacy
You claim the government is as efficient as Walmart > fail
While the economic theory of of volume purchasing is valid. Do you have any examples of the governmanet actually adhering to those principles and reducing overall costs?
Economic principles in government programs are a joke.
Conspiracy theory airs tonight on TruTV – Jesse Venturas new show
@WL
thats right – especially the US government – the efficiency is soo poor and a lot of money gets lost in translation.
@Troy Ounce
Yep I decide which wine is good. You can sell snake oil but that doesn’t mean it’s good.
@Phil
The problem with the good French wine is, and I agree there is a lot of bad French wine as well, that it’s exported to the countries with the hardest valuta which used to be the U.S.
Here in the Netherlands you couldn’t get any descend French wine for quiet some while. This changed with the weakening of the dollar when suddenly you could get the better wines here.
Same happened with fish. All the good fish went to Japan for a while and you couldn’t get it here. This has changed too.
@mep
No, just that CO2 has been falsely demonized as danger
@WL
Lets take a look at college tuition costs also government assisted mortgage costs – loans provided cheap by the federal government helped spike prices to unsustainable levels – defaults or 30 yrs worth of debt are now what people/consumers face now due to the loans. Now look at efficiency in social security, FDIC, ect… all of them now bankrupt – MAYBE if we(the US) wasn’t on a spending crusade across the wolrd in war we could finance these programs – but the fact is there is a lot of money wasted in these programs. France, Germany, ect. can finance universal healthcare and such also because they have a much smaller population and land area. Id like to see a state offer its citizens universal coverage(it is legal within the state to due so now) — if it works then thats great!
@maxkeiser.com
cheers for the show… listening as I type!!!
@Joe
I am waiting fo examples from Max and Stacy of a large scale US gov program that saved money…
I’ll go put on strong pot of coffee…or two
Maybe I am a “denier”
@Phil
Yeah, bet Chelsea Clinton likes smokin the GS cigar too and no being married t(here), “passing the Dutchie to the left hand site” – but not inhaling ROFL
Wow
Gold movin like Climate Scientists from their data
Goldman Sachs are said to have ‘loaded up on firearms’ in case of uprising ( check out the pic on this one !)
http://news.hereisthecity.com/news/business_news/9634.cntns
Treasury Said To Have Seized RBS Bonus Pool
http://news.hereisthecity.com/news/business_news/9635.cntns
And we’ve never before required that so few of them absorb so much.
@Mep:
How do you know that? Aren’t you discounting volcanic emissions? No one knows the answer to the question of what C02 levels existed prior to our records: the records themselves of course are subject to human error and manipulation.
Stacy,
Doncha know!
Those icebergs melting off of Antarctica are really just pieces of styrofoam painted to look like icebergs by the evil climate scientists and Al Gore, just to make it look like Antarctica is melting.
These are the same people who are hiding the Larson B ice shelf, by covering it up with a huge ocean-colored tarp they stole from Christo. Larson-B is really still there!
@WL @Joe – Yes, the NHS pays far lower prices than the US health care system; the UK has the second most expensive health care system after the US, but its costs are about 50% of US system
The Bigger Picture – PART 4 of 11
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJPVeyF0fTk&feature=related
@Y’all
scraping the bottom of the barrel???
Eskimos don’t really have 100s of names for snow.
http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/000405.html
Hitchins claims in this video that the church in Australia is selling redemption again.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tEJ9hbEpDI
Starts here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgH4BnXo0KM
@stacy
your right on with that – but remember the US also is the most unhealthy population in the world – mostly heart disease. Not to mention many exemptions baring interstate competition in the healthcare industry. No doubt the system needs reform. IMHO government run program is just a bad idea. Incentives to become healthier (and yes most Americans need an incentive to become healthy lol) would be a good idea – also many other ways.
Climate-change scientist Phil Jones steps down in e-mail row inquiry
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article6940704.ece
On the Health Care topic – I woud also like to point out that a Pharmaceutical plant about 3 miles form my house has grown exponentially over the past 5 years. Its about the size of my whole neighborhood. Its insane.
@ Youri
For the Brits & Dutch a good wine must firstly be cheap.
If the wine does not kill them instantly it is regarded
as a bonus.
Stacy
Your flaw is in the outcome. what is size of the NHS bureaucracy. What is it second only to the Chinese RED ARMY. While they might save costs on some things overall the service declines and the overall expense rises and sucks up any gain. This is true of all gov programs.
I am in Canada, the system is going broke, the costs are rising far faster than inflation, the service level is dropping, the nickel and diming is increasing, taxes and fees going up > thank god we save a little on cheaper meds due to gov.
It is a great system if you break your arm, everyone is treated but for anything complex and serious, you are delayed and rationed unless you are well connected to the system.
Incidentally, I have to go to the US for treatments due to the rationing here in Canada at my expense while paying gov medical premiums in Canada getting no service. If i did not go to the US I would be in a living in a FREAKIN wheelchair.
I don’t defend the status quo in the US, but you two are dead wrong on this healthcare bill.
Where are the next cluster of Gold Option Limit orders?
1500?
2000?
@WL – healthcare costs in the US have also been rising more than inflation, by double digits for most of the Bush years; you also say that you go to US for treatment; I am sure, however, there are far more Americans that travel to Canada for drugs and procedures; I have never heard of bus tours taking groups of Canadians to the US for treatment, I have heard of bus tours going from US to Canada or from US to Mexico; in terms of making comparisons to costs, you would be better to compare costs within the US, overhead and bureaucracy in the private health industry amounts to 30% of costs; whereas with Medicare it is less than 3% of costs; I have used both NHS and the US private medical system, paperwork in NHS – zero, paperwork and calls to bureaucrats for approval – a lot; I lived in UK for over 10 years and used many doctors and several hospitals and one of my best friends nearly died from meningitis/septicaemia and was in hospital for 3 months, all the service was always great, no hassle about paperwork or identity from me; I was refused treatment at LA hospital for not having insurance (the only 3 months of my life I have not been covered and I got severely dehydrated from bad food poisoning, I couldn’t even walk or talk, lost all muscular function and a friend carried me into hospital); I currently use the French system which is rated best by WHO, I can call right now and have an appointment within half an hour with any doctor I want for almost any procedure I want; BUT, by the way, we have never ever said we support Obama’s ‘healthcare’ bill, which is not the correct word for it, it is another fascist transfer of wealth to a few well connected businessmen; I don’t believe either of the two parties in the one party state are any different in always acting to transfer money to a select few; with the Dems it goes to bankers and big pharma; with the Repubs it goes to bankers, big oil and military contractors; you get to choose where you want your money going, big deal
@WL gold
Yep, almost if somebody took the lit off after the bet was won he didn’t care anymore seeing the flat line. Indeed because of the low volume it is possible to manipulate with relative small amounts.
@Troy Ounce
Yeah lol! We have a Dutch proverb sort of: “Wijn na bier geeft plezier, bier na wijn is venijn” Translated:
“Wine after beer is Fine but beer after wine is swine”
So first a couple of beers so you don’t get the taste of the cheap wine for the booze.
US personal income rose in October. But it was boosted by government benefits, says David Rosenberg. Take away the free money from the feds and income actually went down.
Income has been going down for a long time in the US. English colleague Brian Durrant wonders why there is no revolution:
“Consider a country. For the top 20% of the population real incomes have increased by 60% since 1970. But for the other four-fifths real income has fallen by more than 10%. Am I talking about Guatemala or Bolivia? These sorts of inequalities have in the past provoked resentment sometimes articulated through revolutionary movements and social unrest. But I am not talking about a tiny Latin American state; these figures apply to the US. How can this be? Middle class America is surely better off compared to 1970; if you look at higher car ownership, better housing, more white goods and gadgets. The answer is debt. No wonder the politicians are frightened of it contracting!”
http://bit.ly/4tx2CP
How the US healthcare system became this way–
Customs at the Canadian/US border are said to confiscate this book. Mullins is the real deal.
http://www.whale.to/a/mullinsbk_m.html
Eustace is wrong wrong wrong about HIV=AIDS but that’s understandable… he probably has a different position now.
http://vodpod.com/watch/1514490-eustace-mullins-murder-by-injection
Since the icebergs were mentioned, hope this is helpful.
http://globalfreeze.wordpress.com/category/antarctica/
RE:sugarhigh ….
go sugar !
@Stcy
You err in the details
The bus tours are for Americans to purchase drugs that are cheaper in Canada than the US. THAT IS NOT HEALTHCARE. I know that most drugs are cheaper in Canada but not all, however, many newer drugs are not even available here. So we have limited access to some cheaper meds. I know many people that go to the US for treatment based on either denial or delay in Canada. There is a defacto systemic death panel via rationing, I have family members that died from it.
Why are US healthcare costs rising, Government regulation plays a big role. Medicare, Medicaid broke.
Like I said simple healthcare is great, but when you have a serious health issue, the system will fail you through rationing, bureaucracy and incompetence.
I am not defending the US system as it is, but to claim the Government can save money like Walmart via the power of bulk buying is void of all in depth analysis. Any savings will be sucked up and exceeded by bureaucracy and service will be reduced, inevitable. A complete oversimplification of a complex issue.
This US healthcare bill is not about providing healthcare to Americans, it is all about increasing a union workforce paying back SEIU for support. A useless bloated bureaucracy will be the result. Of course, they will all vote for the DEMS.
Oops Typo
@Stacy
Mission Creep an animated map of US troop levels around the world since 1950.
http://tinyurl.com/oa3afe
@WL
Im definitely with you on this one.
How Safeway Is Cutting Health-Care Costs
Market-based solutions can reduce the national health-care bill by 40%. http://bit.ly/hRhE1
@Stacy …. healthcare costs in the US have also been rising more than inflation
Yep .. I agree , NHS is excellent even although it’s underfunded. IMO, the US system is a fascist ( corporate ) system and for me .. one big bad joke !
@Next The Truth About Comments
Is there a chance in hell of continuing the short conversation on pure electronic money/virtual money and explore further?
Gold / US$ / Euro
To me , it looks like the Euro and other currencies are devaluing against Gold whilst the US$ remains stable.
The Euro price moved from 660 a few months ago and is now 800 Euros.
Makes the US$ move from 1100-1200 look really tame !
@doomandbloom
Barack Obama commits 30,000 troops to Afghanistan http://tinyurl.com/yezkqkp Hadn’t seen the vid ride away but how amazing? Obama calls sending 30,000 troops to Afghanistan
“An exit Strategy” !!!???
@WL – while it is a fact that 100% of people die so the presence or lack of presence of a doctor can be coincidental, but, with that, the death panels notion is totally bogus; first of all, I would have died in US as a 22 year old just out of university if it had not been for someone who was willing and able to pay the $1200 (in 1991) to get me into emergency room and onto the IV for half an hour; the death panel at the front desk would not allow me in without cash up front from someone and all it took was a frigging bag of sugar – you will NEVER EVER find a story like that in Paris in London in Berlin in Amsterdam, but you will hear many many like that in LA, NY and across the states; I am sure there are AT LEAST fifteen Americans (in their 20′s or 30′s) who die due to insurance company death panels to every 80 year old Canadian who dies for lack of hip replacement; and in terms of cost, you can walk into any emergency room in Paris with any nationality and it will set you back $400 at most (at the American Hospital) including tests; you can also walk into any doctor’s office anywhere in Paris as any nationality and it will cost you just $100; my friend pays cash for her doctor in US and she pays well over 4 times what any doctor will cost you here, so why if the state is involved here, is it a fraction of the cost?; our neighbor just died two months ago at 95 years old, she spent the last 8 months in hospital in her own room and they performed multiple surgeries on her over the last two years of her life, where was her death panel? Why did they treat her so quickly and expensively for her liver cancer? The state must have spent hundreds of thousands on her last few years.
This Vid: 8 Stocks to Gain on Obama’s Afghan Plan: Analysts http://www.cnbc.com/id/34223569/site/14081545
@Stacy:
Realistically, health care will be rationed under any government program:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/19/magazine/19healthcare-t.html
Here is an example of where we are headed:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/14/health/policy/14medpac.html
Stacy, are you an Max just a couple of tail end boomers who want everything they can get? I don’t mind if you are, just be honest.
French health care system not sustainable:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2043071/
Yea, I was interviewed for that new Jesse Ventura show – talking about goldman sachs, etc.
we did it using Skype and the connection got cut off every 20 seconds so i don’t know if it’ll ever get on the show.
@max
Just ondering, why use Skype?
@Stacy
Another benefot of the care for the elderly is that it creates a reserve of medical employees. It is being erode by the insurance companies big time (all spontaneous care is discouraged). The US is almost a suicidal nation it seems..
Venezuela: Bankers back closure of troubled banks (????)
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Venezuela-Bankers-back-apf-921597883.html?x=0&.v=1
Some nice links on Zero Hedge – Frontrunning: December 2 http://www.zerohedge.com/article/frontrunning-december-2
Ahmadinejad taunts Israel, says Iran will enrich uranium to 20 percent
…The building of two new plants will begin in two months.
Deliberately taunting Israel, he said in a speech from Isfahan broadcast live by state television: “The Zionist regime is nothing. Even its masters cannot do a damn thing.” For Tehran the nuclear issue is “over.” The Islamic republic will “not back down from its rights.”…
http://www.debka.com/headline.php?hid=6399
One has to wonder what he’s got behind him ?
China ? Russia ?
+ maybe the whole of the Middle East outside the obvious US outposts?
Just posturing .. or really looking to cause a crisis that would make the West’s oil price triple ?
@ WL – This US healthcare bill is not about providing healthcare to Americans, it is all about increasing a union workforce paying back SEIU for support.
And just how is this POS bill “increasing a union workforce”? In case you haven’t noticed, unions are under assault here. We do need to increase the number of unionized workers here, but it’s not going to happen because our political leadership is too ignorant to understand why it’s needed and too corrupt to care.
About coming to the US for health care, you should consider yourself lucky that you have the privilege to access care that tens of millions of Americans can’t, and that your government pays for you to jump the queue here.
I won’t comment on what you think you know about our system or the savings we’d have under a Medicare-for-all system; it’s just all too frustrating.
PS@Just posturing .. or really looking to cause a crisis that would make the West’s oil price triple ?
Maybe WS is in on this ?
( I doubt it )
80% Odds of Stock Market Crash Within the Next Year http://bit.ly/74ziCU
@snoot
Unions are under attack but they became corrupt when they became too powerful and politicized – take a look at Californians state employees – not one has been fired yet (fire department workers make close to $150,000 a year) the state is bankrupt yet state employees still receive amazing benefits.
@ Palantiri
“Is there a chance in hell of continuing the short conversation on pure electronic money/virtual money and explore further?”
I second that motion. The cashless society is a must-be. And everything will be tagged and tracked, with underground economies stamped out. They’re starting to train the herd with pre-paid credits for phone calls, transportation, etc. Where I live there are incentives to switch to personal pre-paid cards that serve for transportation, restaurant payments, and so forth. If you don’t get the “personal” card with your personal data registered, then you don’t get the appreciable discounts. There is a big incentive campaign at the moment to get everyone using GPS in their vehicles.
Slowly, like the Fabian tortoise.
@snoot sorry – good god i always mess up the directions
@MEP – that was directed towards you sorry
To answer your question about Chilean wine Max; an average fob price for a bottle of Chilean wine is USD2.00. Then you have the cheap wine that is exported in these huge bags to be bottled in destination with the importer’s brand. This cheap wine is treated with radiation instead of chemicals to stop the yeast, and also they add sugar sometimes for the flavour.
So there are a lot of wine consumers that really don’t have a clue what they are really drinking. The same goes for food and other drinks.
@Phil:
It’s just a rumour yet, Phil:
“It was unclear whether the cabinet had already taken a formal decision on enriching uranium to 20 percent, as on Sunday Ahmadinejad announced his government would meet on Wednesday to consider such a proposal.”
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5hLfSJCVkkdNSjG5LA-oogmnfbr2Q
@Crumpet Muncher – I’m not a boomer, I’m a Generation X; I have actual real live experience of paying taxes and using health system in US, UK and France; I can tell you where I faced most bureaucracy was the allegedly free market system of US; I would rather pay 3% toward bureaucracy than 30%; and I would rather have the administrators of health system collecting average salaries rather than millions of dollar salaries; and I would rather not have to call a insurance call center to ask some minimum wage employee whether or not I am allowed a certain procedure; I have spent most of my time in French and UK systems, however, and while they are drastically different from each other, I have never had paperwork to fill or permission to seek; I have never been put on a waiting list and I have never been denied anything;
@frances snoot – I have not seen health care rationed here; in the UK emergency care is not rationed, the only waiting lists I have heard of are for things like hip replacement, but I believe they have taken these days to sending patients to France to get treatment faster
@Stacy
I am not defending the US system as it is. Rationing is a defacto systemic Death Panel. Basic economics tells you that there is really only one “HEALTHTAX” payer.
Whenever the gov enters a service the costs rise and the service drops, always.
Your horrible experience in the US may only be replaced by someone else who may die waiting for a brain scan.
Unions are under attack but they became corrupt when they became too powerful and politicized – take a look at Californians state employees – not one has been fired yet (fire department workers make close to $150,000 a year) the state is bankrupt yet state employees still receive amazing benefits.
@Joe:
I think you are addressing WL or Mep?
I didn’t write anything about unions. I think unions are good.
@Phil
Ahmadinejad was the point man for Poppy Bush during the Iran hostage performance. If you dig around enough you might find some info on that. They always have their own actors in the key positions.
“I have not seen health care rationed here”
No, but it seems inevitable in future as the G20 is set to colonize the world for corporate/elite profit. sad.
Health care should not be denied the poor, the weak, or the aged. I’m sure we agree on that! But the Obama White House group seems to deem some citizens as unnecessary.
If we could pattern health care after France and end the stupid wars then we would all live happier lives.
@WL – “Whenever the gov enters a service the costs rise and the service drops, always.” That’s simply not true if you look at France compared to US. Like I said, the cost argument doesn’t add up as the costs are lower here. And I have not witnessed any bad service here. Or in the UK.
@Phil
Debka news has to be taken with a little salt since they proved not to be very good at translating the Farsi, I mean Iran never said theu would destroy Israel that was al part of a propaganda campain.
Israel is ready to bomb Iran though but later March 2010 is the prediction. So this is the propaganda machine gearing up – more to follow undoubtedly.
@Stacy
How much do you pay for healthcare in France. The total in your taxes and fees etc.?
About 35% of our Federal income tax payment go to healthcare, plus for two $125 per month, that is going up and many small fees and pay for your own drugs. While the service declines.
damn it; google working with murdoch to restrict news acces: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8389896.stm it is just another pathetic attempt to restrict access to information. (masses are easier to control by withholding patented technology/knowledge) Something else; gold is trough the roof again. http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601081&sid=a6Ad2JhedubE guess the days of the $ are really numbered.
@WL – I don’t know, but it’s less than that; private insurance costs €2000 / year and that covers 80% of any doctor or dental costs, 100% of emergency; also, what if you lose your job, say like in America where the U6 number is nearly 20%, how much do you have to pay then? my friend is currently unemployed in the US and he pays $500 / month for that Cobra insurance, but it is pretty much just catastrophic insurance and so he has to pay fees to visit the doctor out of his own pocket; that’s the other thing about the US system is that someone can be paying into a health insurance plan for 40 years and then they get sick and then they lose their job and then they lose their cover and they are uninsured, but they may have paid tens and tens of thousands over the years but then get nothing when they need it
@Stacy
Several years ago we were considering a move to the US, I compared US Private insurance costs vs all the Money that we paid toward healthcare (all in taxes and fees) and it would have been cheaper to buy insurance in the US vs the Canadian single payer gov system. At the time we were making average income. I have no doubt that the US healthcare would have been better.
@ Joe – No state employees have been fired in CA?
http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/2009/02/17/in-deepening-recession-california-begins-laying-off-20000-state-employees.html
I’m sure there have been a lot more than that–either laid off completely or furloughed. Additionally, many unionized teachers and health care workers have been laid off in CA, too.
On unions becoming too powerful and corrupt: in case you’ve forgotten, the most shared prosperity this country has seen in the past century occurred at the peak of unionization. Powerful unions are GOOD for us and the long-term health of the economy as a whole. Pretty sure it can be argued that union “corruption” has never had as negative of an effect on the country as a whole as corporate corruption. Even at their peak of power, unions never wrote legislation that was detrimental to the majority of the nation and then bribed Congress to pass it. They never had the CIA start wars for them. Never engaged in such wide-scale fraud that they took down the global economy. Never put the lives of Americans or our national security on the line in the name of short-term profits.
Or in the UK.
I lived through my appendix operation in the UK but left the hospital the day after as it was filthy, and I was put in a mixed ward with a curtain and a bed not less than six feet from my own one. The man on the bed leered happily at me until I left. It was like not nice.
@stacy
Somehow, I don’t think there are any economies of scale where insurance is involved. I remember in 1967 or so when Medicare started up, the price of a bed at our local hospital went, overnight, from costing $64 per night to over $250.
Congress is owned by health care lobbyists, so there is no effective agent interested in protecting taxpayers from excessive charges.
@WL – until you get sick that is because that is when they start denying you; Harvard Medical did study that found not only were over half of bankruptcies in the US caused by medical costs, but most of those medical bankrupts actually had health insurance; the health insurance industry is run by the same financial industry that crashed the global markets with fraudulent products; Harvard’s conclusion was that because of the practice by insurance companies of denying many procedures and then dropping patients with chronic or terminal illness, most people in the US would be better off NOT having any insurance and instead putting aside the $10,000 per year into a health savings account and then using that to cover medical bills when they got sick (the only problem with this method, of course, is when something catastrophic happens when you are in your twenties or early thirties)
Whenever the gov enters a service the costs rise and the service drops, always.
That’s exactly what happens when governments allow services to become privatized. Even some of my Republican relatives are starting to understand that.
ha ha ha Me thinks a things are speeding up ?
When will the quadrillion derivative death star, or upside down bullshit pyramid be reduced to a shriveled walnut of equitable value, and fliped the correct way up.
When will price discovery be permitted by our collective of most trusted of governments via currency devaluation?
Wake up, its time! and its happening now!
I’m a physician in California.
With this state government holding a negative $21 BILLION dollar balance, the state is seizing the day to take every penny out of our economy.
@Max – I really appreciate your videos and commentaries. It’s been very educational and I hope you guys keep cranking out the video’s out.
@Stacey – I’m also Gen X and also have international perspective. The situation in California is in my opinion rather dire. Food production is low. The stupid state limited water to their own crop producting farmland.
Is there a vocabulary word for the state consuming itself with self-destructive behavior?
Suicide is taking your own life.
Fratricide is taking your brother’s life.
What’s it called when the state government kills its own financial life?
If there is no word, perhaps we can follow “kakistocracy” with “foolocracy”, but there seems to be no English word to describe a government which creates policies that deliberately implode their own legitimacy.
@MEP
interesting link – I had heard previously twice from two Gerald Celente videos otherwise. I do not think unions are bad at all – actually in fact i support them – but my whole premise was based off the fact of the information I heard from those videos – if it is untrue like you have shown then i have no beef. But i was hearing not one state employee was laid off which would obviously make the case on why california is broke (along with not raising taxes)
Greece seeks to reassure investors, vows reform
http://www.reuters.com/article/asianCurrencyNews/idUSGEE5B11N320091202
@ Stacy – I’m going to get my teeth cleaned tomorrow. I don’t have insurance now and when I had it through the university, it didn’t cover dental. It’ll be over $100 just for a regular cleaning.
Actually, another thing I want to point out re: health care; and this is just based on my own personal observation of friends & family in US compared to Europe, and that is, about 99% of my US friends/family are terrified of losing their health insurance, and so absolutely petrified of losing their jobs or trying to start up a business on their own; obviously, the fear of losing health care doesn’t enter the equation here, so I haven’t ever seen that as a motivating factor for someone staying in a job or trying something new
@MEP
I dont agree with that about business’ becoming privatized costs go up. If and when thats the case its because of excessive regulations burdening actual competition or entrance into the business. Like i said earlier – look at mortgages – prices skyrocketed when government programs were introduced – also college tuition costs skyrocketed (rising more than twice as high as inflation) … these are all government induced
@Mep – thanks for that price info! I get mine done in UK just because that is where I have a dentist I have always used is; it costs £40 for teeth cleaning, which is $66; I don’t know if it is less elsewhere, this doctor is in ‘posh’ area of Hampstead
Well,
I think Mep and WL are both right.
Malalai Joya is an Afghan politician who has been called “the bravest woman in Afghanistan.”
http://therealnews.com/t/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=4506
@Stacy … terrified of losing their health insurance, and so absolutely petrified of losing their jobs or trying to start up a business on their own
Agree 100%
.. and that is why Health Care should be made affordable and free to those that cannot afford like in the UK.
I can NOT remember my parents ever talking EVEN ONCE about the cost of the NHS .. in 50+ years !
The US system is IMO a cow to be milked by the Corporate Elite and the legal system.
What no one is addressing is the obvious end to the US economy based on securitization. The citizens will die in the streets if something isn’t done.
@Stacy:
Do you think Stella should lose a few pounds for her health?
@ Warren – “Healthcare lobbyists”
You need to be more specific. There are lobbyists in Wash DC who represent just about any group you can imagine. These “lobbyists” are essentially third-party people that work between the offices of elected officials.
The elected official says one thing publicly and tells staff to move forward with the agenda. The staffer then meets with a lobbyist. The lobbyist then goes to another staff in another office to build “consensus”. The lobbyist then goes back to the “constituency”, which is the party paying for them.
In the case of healthcare, the big “donors” are the publicly traded insurance carriers (i.e. Wall Street $$$), the publicly traded drug companies (i.e. Wall Street $$$), and the hospitals (some publicly traded).
These companies funnel money to their industry political action committee which then pays the lobbyist to get their “agenda” through the Congress and White House.
The highly paid lobbyists are the people with high connections and “influence”. This influence can be garnered through either controlling information which is embarassing to the candidate/office holder and then is unleashed on the person when they don’t comply with demands.
So, my guess is that the media is going after Tiger Woods because he didn’t succumb to some extortion plot.
It’s just too much like the David Letterman thing.
The thing is that these extortion plots, lobbying tactics, and political posturing really amount to a big distraction from the reality.
The reality is that the kleptocracy and kakistocracy is obvious to the planet and amazingly most of the citizenry seems oblivious.
@Gordo .. Malalai Joya
Yep .. posted a month ago.
Respect !
@ Joe – It’s actually silly to lay them off. Something should have been figured out to cut their hours back or something. That way, they could still make some money and have it to spend in the local economy. Sounds like we’ll soon face a similar situation in NY due to cuts that the governor is going to make. Federal stimulus money going to states to help keep people in their jobs doesn’t amount to much when those people end up being fired, anyway, due to state cuts (and then can’t buy anything, can’t afford bills, lose their homes, and have to be thrown on the public dole).
@frances snoot – Stella?
@ Cali Doc
That would be called financial coup d’etat.
http://solari.com/blog/?p=3292
@california Doctor – you don’t mention anything about your experience with the health insurance industry; my impression is that it is a vast bureaucracy and all sorts of denials, forms, etc for doctors to fill out? do insurance companies force you to have to deny necessary treatment to patients who need it? etc
@stacy
Stella is her gravitar
@Stacy
Your issues with the current US system is valid.
To claim that the gov buying power will reduce costs without reducing service is completely false. It has never been demonstrated.
California Doctor has nailed it. California is the result of the moronic government interventions in the marketplace. As they go so does the country. The utopia will fail. It is corrupt to the core. The social entitlements cannot be paid for. You guys blame corporations when it is really corporatism.
The entire system is imploding and gov policies are accelerating it.
“Californicide”
Denninger –> The Last Word On Bernanke: FAIL
http://market-ticker.denninger.net/archives/1687-The-Last-Word-On-Bernanke-FAIL.html
Two more reasons why investors shouldn’t trust governments
…And it’s one reason that we do like gold. As my colleague Dominic Frisby regularly points out, unlike paper money, gold’s value isn’t dependent on a government promise. Gold’s rising price is largely because investors are concerned, not about inflation or deflation as such, but about the undermining of paper currencies….
http://www.moneyweek.com/investments/what-you-can-learn-from-investors-in-dubai-and-rbs-94909.aspx?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Money%2BMorning
@Stacy:
Goodness, You don’t know Stella? She’s a part and parcel of those long-winded redneck rants of mine. Her photo is my avatar at present.
She’s says, Howdy, Hi Ho! Been busy a’readin all the posties, and she’s setting ready to take a ride on Bounteeful, her mule. Bounty says “heh” and so does Cleetus.
@Marietta:
Thank-you fur the look-see fur Steller. She says “heh”!
@frances snoot – oh that Stella . . . well, I guess she could stand to lose about 75 or 100 pounds; might do her some good, but heck lots of guys like big boned gals
@ Stella
When’s the last time ye had yer teeth cleaned Stella?
As a Canadian I can vouch for WL on his assessment of our medicare system. He’s right on the money about this. Especially about de facto death panels. I’ve been subject to it. Fortunately I’m young enough to have been deemed “useful to society” — a paraphrased quote from my cardiologist — but that doesn’t prevent me from having to volunteer as a guinea pig in an American drug study to maintain full and continued treatment. Additionally, I have two other medical clusterf*ck narratives relating to my grandchildren that would be detrimental to my condition if I was to communicate them in writing, so, as to prevent my becoming an even greater burden on our socialized system, I will refrain from doing so.
@WL i.e. broken arms etc, — even that is becoming in doubt. Last week a good friend of mine’s life was in risk from blood loss (this confirmed by a physician) because he had to go to the emergency at three different hospitals to receive treatment. He was finally stitched-up a full 24 hours after he had what most would consider a relatively minor accident with a knife at a construction site. In all fairness though, it appears this extreme incident was directly related to, and caused by, non-medical armed security personnel acting as triage and a swamping of available services by mothers with crying babies because of the fake H1N1 pandemic.
@Stacy — the Americans you give account of coming to Canada for medical treatment must be traveling on black helicopters, not buses, because I can assure you; people would look at you as being a conspiracy theorist if you espoused such nonsense up here.
@Stacy:
Yep. She’s conseedering seeing as that wide man couldn’t set proper in the airo plane-seat and became famous for being big-boned and all. Kinda embarrassing when a person gets stuck in the door of the trailer, too. Meets a wind coming out, but Cleetus done pushed, and she got through. Probably slacking on that sweet tea do her some good.
@ california Doctor
What you’ve described is byzantine corruption.
In my boyhood, the local doctor charged low fees, yet made more money than anyone else in town. This was the 1950-60s. When medicare and health insurance came into fashion, he retired because he didn’t want to maintain an office full of people to process insurance forms.
@SKlein:
Teeth?
Lost them last winter.
@ Stella
Sorry to hear about them teeth. I was wonderin how much cleaning woulda set you back. I just paid all of 72 dolla. I hear Stacy just paid $66. Right convenient losing those teeth.
Wow so many comments I was at the Bar having me whisky and by the way I hate Wine Wine sucks 2000 year old nonsense Vodka again Euro Crap Rum well iether you become a Rum drinker or a Whisky drinker eventually cocktail’s are for gays RODFL though i like the women kind
Bitter drinks tsoooo gooot
Whisky Rules !!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
Glen is my fav though I cant afford it
It seems Medicare began here when the people of color were given basic rights. If we take away other people’s rights, then we shouldn’t complain about not having any ourselves.
@ 13blackcats – Could be that the buses Stacy speaks of are mostly filled w/ Americans looking for more affordable drugs, but she’s definitely 100% correct about Mexico:
Americans, Not Canucks, Are the Real Medical Refugees.
“It wasn’t scary at all.”
Goldman Sachs COO Gary Cohn on the plunge in Goldman’s stock price from $207.78 in February to $47.41 in November 2008 as reported in the latest Vanity Fair.
Must have already cashed out.
@SKlein:
WE triez to find wayz to be grateful to baby jesus fur the simple things we DO get. But getting teeth-cleanin is beyond most folk round here. We ain’t got much problem with spitting the tobacco toothless: still shoot clean to Sunday on one go.
Wanna demonstration?
Cash only doctors’ clinics. Low prices.
http://www.aapsonline.org/freemarket/berryoral.htm
@staceyherbert. max hit the nail on the head. the planet will save itself. the trouble with the warming gods is that they will take the money and do nothing for the planet. another tax that never finds it’s purpose.
Go own Stella!!
I am convinced that the cost of Healthcare in the US is due to corporatism not capitalism. The government is just as complicit in the current situation and more government will not solve it.
I don’t know about France and corporatism but I bet you pay far more than you think via gov taxes and fees.
Maybe fuel tax fees subsidize the healthcare in the dark world of government books and when we all get rid of our cars there goes the subsidy.
The costs always paid by the individual, it is just semantics as to gets the a slice on the way back in form of service.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDmX9Wr49_Y
intersting words
@ yall
Just buy a mountain bike or Join a gym
U dont need medicare then
The reason you have excess adrinalin roush B/W the age of 13 – 26 well for me it lasted till 30
Is that u realize these are the ways you can Die
So dont be a stupid ass RODFL
@marietta
Lol if i told me grand dad about medicare he’d be like What get a manhood child Excercise why ya wanna pay some one on the premise you’d fall sick every year
That essentially means ya have no Confidense in your own health RODFL
Man Shit ass interesting times we live in
So many huge scale Scandals so many indictments required
Hangings
@SKlein:
Shoot. Ma sayz I can’t spit on utube. She sayz it ain’t proper fur a lady. And she sayz she don’t want me takin proud bout a dirty-low habit like’n Pa gotz. So, sorry Mr. Klein sir. But I took first in a contest here back o’ Billy-Bobs with Cleetus. Sure nuff hit the beer bottle right square center: dead to rights!
errrsplatz! There, it makes like a ringin sound ya getz it right. Don’t go tellin, Ma.
I’d be happy to pay higher taxes if it meant that everyone had access to high-quality health care, education, infrastructure, water, transportation, and public spaces. (I left out food, b/c if we really got serious about our health care crisis, we’d also fix our disgusting food system.)
Congrats!
My lips are sealed.
@ Mep
You are what you eat.
Until the food system is changed here in US health will fail.
Monetization of healthcare and food destroys health of all.
Health industry is 18% of the US economy–Big business has destroyed all health here.
@Mep:
I take it you’re not a fan of Spam?
Geithner says $700B bailout program will end soon
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Geithner-says-700B-bailout-apf-1142100119.html?x=0&sec=topStories&pos=3&asset=&ccode=
$hit what is there to end they $ucken stole the money
The Elites have forget to notice the human body is all powerfull it mutates Obviously we the smartest living organisms on earth
So unless they go Bio we kinda safe
Tiger Woods admits “transgressions”, apologizes
http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSN3051777520091202
@ frances – If you really want to know, I actually like the taste of Spam! My folks used to buy it every once in a while when I was growing up. However, I don’t eat it now . . . think I fried some up with onions and made a sandwich (topped with spicy mustard, of course) oh, 6 or 7 years ago. The jelly always creeped me out, but I enjoyed the taste of it.
bio-matter
@stacyherbert – about the health insurers…
Since you and Max talk straight, let me be blunt, honest, and clear about my experience with the medical insurance carriers.
Over the past ten years it is clear that the medical insurers have total control over the medical decisions occurring.
These controls exist in a variety of fashions, if you want me to be specific, I can cite specific names and dates in California.
California’s insurance commissioner is an elected official, but his conduct was to announce on election evening that he wanted to prosecute doctors. Well, in the last four years, I’ve seen doctors who are great professionals close their doors for good and move out of the United States entirely.
I’ve also seen situations where the insurance carriers directly interfered with the diagnosis and treatment of people with lifethreatening illnesses including delays in treatment for heart disease, vaccine delivery, cancer surgery, and more.
The claims denials are the tip of the iceberg.
You need to look at Express Scripts, Caremark/CVS, and other publicly traded “benefits management” firms. These guys are making money from just trading the private information of citizens.
There is NO medical privacy in this nation and this pantomime of HIPAA this and HIPAA that is utter nonsense.
One easy example of how this works is that the Insurance Carriers pay CVS/Caremark to write the menu of drugs that can be prescribed in various tiers. The doctor then must pick the drug based upon the economic situation of the patient, the disease, and then the tier of the drug on the insurance company formulary.
So, Coventry Healthcare hires CVS/Caremark to set their formulary. The patients do not realize that their drug choices have been punted from the doctor to the publicly traded “Pharmacy Benefits Management” company. The PBM basically writes the list of drugs (setting tier 1, 2, and 3) based on the kick-backs and bribes from the drug manufacturers.
If CVS – Caremark doesn’t get their kick back, they punt the drug to a lower tier (higher cost to the patient with higher co-pays).
If CVS gets a big kickback from Teva Pharma, then the generic Amoxicillin and other drugs from Teva get boosted on the racks in all CVS stores and elevated as the “preferred” Tier 1 generic.
So, the decision of which medication is best becomes based on the kick-back from Teva to CVS rather than the best interests of the patients first.
@Mep:
LOL!
@ sklein – You’re right. It struck me as *interesting* that while Obama is generally really good at linking things like energy and healthcare to the economy, he totally blew it on the food system–>health care–>economy equation. The meat industry, Monsanto/agrichemical industry, biotech. industry, etc. must have clouded his thinking.
I side with California Doctor also.
I think we have a vast history of government intervention with medical care as it is.
If there was a healthy track record of social plans to support “free” care I may feel differently. Medicare, Medicade, Social Security, have all failed. How are we to believe another will be any better?
Year after year we have seen a greater degree of government tinkering in healthcare, and all it does is get more expensive. Also, the government is behaving like a pack of uzbeki ex KGB scumbags. How the hell are we to trust any last one of them?
All the programs they launch are an excuse to embezzle our tax money, not provide service.
Being on the ground floor of the scene, and a staunch libertarian, the anti obama care protests reflect a total disillusionment with government, and a deep conviction that they can’t tempt us with “free” candy anymore. We ain’t getting near the black NSA van that says “social welfare” on the side.
@ frances –
Btw, I didn’t mean that I enjoyed the taste of the jelly; rather, the fried spam, itself.
Take a look here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODshB09FQ8w
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Kissinger is one MF that needs to die
control oil– you control nations
control food– you control people
control money– you control the world
@ Stacy
+1 for Australia’s universal Health Care too (called “Medicare” over here)
Not perfect, but rated highly. Very popular with the electorate here. [The previous right-wing government had to go into the past (twice removed) election promising not to touch it in order to get in.]
http://themessthatgreenspanmade.blogspot.com/
Ben’s Senate date…
@WL – “Californicide”
That’s an excellent thought for a new word, but other states like New York, Florida, Arizona, and others have similar budgetary imbalances occurring.
The social handouts by state government are a form of control on the populace. Instead of the populace just buying their own food, medical care, drugs, and water; the government requires the business to comply with their demands first.
The irony is that as California legislators pay themselves more, they withdraw more from my paycheck.
In auditing the federal medical appropriations, the billions of dollars appear to hit the California general fund and then are “reallocated” by the state.
Then, the doctors get sent IOU’s (general warrants) from the state because there is no money to pay.
Colleagues in Illinois state that they have not been paid from State of Illinois for much of 2009. In fact, some are complaining about not being paid for visits from 9 months ago.
The situation is the same in many US states and across the private healthcare system.
The payments from the private insurers and the public agencies are all tied up and slow.
Unemployment has undermined the number of people who can be in a private insurance system. Therefore, they’ve shifted to publicly funded systems. But, the state is broke also.
Meanwhile, the California legislature will be raising taxes AGAIN on small businesses.
@Stella
They just pulled two back tooths a couple of days ago – still a little dizzy
“Is it Safe?” the dentist asked before he pulled the first
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dG5Qk-jB0D4
@maxkeiser.com
erm… the volume on max’s has been fine… honest… but I never noticed a problem in the first place!!!
@ sklein – Fail to plan for peak oil, I say you lose that power. How can politicians realistically control us or anyone else when the entire system that enriches the elites comes crashing down? Why, they won’t even be able to deliver corporate talking points on Capitol Hill and pretend that those are their own words anymore. As well, they will no longer have giant corporate masters to dump $ into their campaign coffers. They will have to learn how to govern; they will have to deal with the public and prove their legitimacy as “public servants.”
Dear Stacy, Please surprise Max with this in the next On The Edge show: Liz Cheney said Dick Cheney should run for President in 2012. Tell him that a listener wants him to attend and report on an Americans Abroad for Cheney meeting in Paris provided Interpol War Crimes warrants do not force its cancellation . In case of indictments they might have to meet at Ken Lay’s hideout in Paraguay..
@Bonn
Have you seen “Trials of Henry Kissinger”?
9 parts
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=93C52FE0E6BB7F27&search_query=trials+of+henry+kissinger
OMG!! I would say that you all wouldn’t believe this, but I’m afraid that it won’t be so shocking to most here . . . the USDA has classified PETA as a terrorist threat!!!!!
@Mep:
How about this?
http://static.open.salon.com/files/98_main_11245803119.jpg
(I love spam this way!)
@mep
I’d be happy to pay higher taxes if it meant that everyone had access to high-quality health care, education, infrastructure, water, transportation, and public spaces.
I don’t disagree with your ideals, however the “IF” in your statement sums it up. Replacing a broken corrupt system with another corrupt incompetent one won’t help anyone.
I fear you and your American friends will be very disappointed if this goes through. Costs will rise, service will fall for those who need it. Corruption will continue. Look at medicare fraud now.
Right problem, wrong solution.
Ahhh terrorist is such a broad term – kind of like how the Nazi’s said interrogation instead of torture… unbelievable – yet very believable – PETA has some nut cases in it but wowww
@Mep:
Janet Napolatino’s face is the terrorist threat!
Look!
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_nWpwm6lhWUs/Se9Tp9jZ1vI/AAAAAAAAIEk/tn2UiJh52kE/s400/Janet+Napolatino.jpg
She makes Stella look like a dream date!
sorry, Stella
@MEP
did you not agree with my earlier post about business privatization?
@ marietta
@Bonn
Have you seen “Trials of Henry Kissinger”?
9 parts
Trust me he’ll get off
did’nt see what u posted also wont I know the end result
They go scott free
USA needs to be ignored for 30 years or so I hope that happens
Uh, oh – raw data in New Zealand tells a different story than the “official” one. http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/25/uh-oh-raw-data-in-new-zealand-tells-a-different-story-than-the-official-one/
and more or less USA is being ignored I Love that
@ frances – Looks tasty!
@ WL – Yes, I meant “if” to be the operative word. I’ve said a lot about health care reform here in the past, but just to remind you, I do not support the pending legislation. The original articulation of the plan (where the public option would have been accessible to over 100,000,000 people), yes, but not this PhRMA/insurance cartel giveaway. I’m a single payer/Medicare-for-all person. The strong public option was the compromise I was okay with. What we have pending now is pathetic.
Cause the world is recognisising if we go along wit the US its downfall peeps aint stupid 40 % obesity
Cummmmon what can a fat guy do before he says his heart’s giving him problems
Lets not forget that Americans are much more physically sick than many other peoples.
If the tax burden of medical care was 3x the amount in Germany or Switzerland you may see some fiscal issues.
Also, what of the millions of illegals in California alone? Are they exempt? Even if so, will they be turned away from the clinic? America has issues many botique euro countries have the luxury of avoiding. Which would also be either under Nazi control, and/or suffering from a decade of USSR domination.
If I remember correctly, there were US tanks there kicking out German “National” Socialism, and keeping out Communism.
I think Max should have an economic debate with Peter Schiff entirely on public healthcare. My two favorite philosophs in the pit!
@california Doctor
Californicide – Self inflicted death by socialism
You just can’t expand a social utopia without real productivity paying the way. The bills come due and nobody is producing anything. The US middle class has been gutted and now the wealthy professional class is under attack. Socialism, the lowest common denominator approaches zero.
When you take away the incentive to succeed you remove motivation.
I don’t see any way of turning the US Titanic around.
Move to Canada we need docs and will fair far better. You get paid in Beavers and gold.
@Zach
Exactly what I mentioned earlier and I think MEP mentioned – Americans are the most unhealthy country in the world any type of single-payer or free-health care would not solve this problem. The highly processed and fatty foods that the average American eats makes regular hospital visits more frequent and costly.
again – Market-based solutions can reduce the national health-care bill by 40%. http://bit.ly/hRhE1
In reality costs will still rise due to the unhealthiness and obesity problems that have a direct correlation to heart disease. I would love to see everyone covered – but costs would have to go down because in the long run taxes would have to go up to pay for a continued unhealthy population.
@ Joe – I don’t agree where things like utilities, education, health care, waste removal, and to a large degree, media is concerned.
I especially am against privatization of the military and of the government!
@ frances – LOL! Just yesterday, she was on TV talking about terrorist threats and mentioned that we have citizens here who “share the same kind of ideology as the Taliban and Al Qaeda.” To me, this looks like the beginning of attacks on activists–especially anti-corporate ones. Soon, fellow citizens will be called “domestic terrorists.”
A similar thing is happening in Canada where they are trying to pass bylaws that will make it a crime to carry signs that are anti-Montreal Olympics (people caught will at least have to pay a fine and possibly be arrested), and they are going after various activist groups.
Its just untrue to say that the government can offer overall lower costs than a truly competitive market. The more you manipulate the market (via gov through excess regulation) the more the price reflects this.
@Zach OBrien
Correction Dutch are the most sick they don’t know their head from a hole in the ground. Their one bunch of overly sick bitches.
They gonna put a GPS in every fuckin car to tax on the mile for god sakes they are the sickest NWO basterds.
@ Joe – If we had single payer, there would be an incentive to focus on actual health care instead of sickness care. Our food system would have to eventually be debated and practices reformed.
@WL
“Whenever the gov enters a service the costs rise and the service drops, always.”
If the USPS did not exist we would be paying UPS and FedEx expeditionary rates for the delivery of mail right now.
That is what we are now doing with health care.
It is pure MYTH government is somehow less able than the private sector.
@Mep:
It’s horrible! I always loved activists: and PETA is against the factory farming. The new ‘criminal’ is the extremist. It makes you wonder whom they are persecuting in Afghanistan and Pakistan.
I was disappointed in Jon Stewart for having her on his show.
The whole DHS department should be disbanded. What a waste of money!
extremist=someone who gets in the way of corporate profit
@@Zach OBrien
Notin about Climategate in the MSM, makes me sick….bloody sick NWO basterds. Hopefully they start nuking The Netherlands first when the shit starts hitting the helter skelter fan. Hope they all drawn dum stupid MTFs.
@Youri:
NO NOT SAFE!
Gold @ $1200 TOO RICH for China
http://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/story.html?id=2293716
Mike
The world cannot move foward unless 9 /11 is brought out in the open Period yes I am a guy who has periods
@Mep
I agree to an extent but Im not sure a centrally planned US would help lower costs – it would be easier to scale it down to the states. I think if a state wants to offer free-health care and other things then it could attempt it through VAT taxes and such. D.C. planning the economy from the white house is just not going to work. Besides education in the united states has been getting progressively worse even though the government keep throwing billions towards it (maybe its just the culture that kids have grown up in). It’d be easier to let communities/ states deal with it since they have more information and ideas how to plan. The government has created monopolies in certain areas of the economy – look at Goldman Sachs monopoly on plundering
Whoo hooo i work 2 extra hours dunno why but me boss said so
@Bonn … yes I am a guy who has periods
Is that “every day” ?
… sometimes one wonders !
@Frank Hope
your blog is going viral today on twitter FYI…
I’ve got to run and take care of some things, so don’t think I’m just ignoring you @ frances and @ Joe.
Coke Zero – Facial Recognition for fun. More proof AI’s claims are true. http://www.cocacolazero.com/facialprofiler.jsp
@ Phil
@Bonn … yes I am a guy who has periods
Is that “every day” ?
… sometimes one wonders !
LOL P just laughing at the state of afaires the amount of monys going into personal pockets is unprecidented (i am sure i got the spellin wrong)
@ Mep
“A similar thing is happening in Canada where they are trying to pass bylaws that will make it a crime to carry signs that are anti-Montreal Olympics (people caught will at least have to pay a fine and possibly be arrested), and they are going after various activist groups.”
Amy Goodman was arrested and interrorgated on the way to BC last week. They were wondering if she was going to speak out against the Vancouver Olympics.
@Gordo
If the USPS did not exist we would be paying UPS and FedEx expeditionary rates for the delivery of mail right now.
That is what we are now doing with health care.
It is pure MYTH government is somehow less able than the private sector.
Your example is false, the USPS has a gov monopoly on door to door addressed mail subsidized by taxdollars. Fedex and UPS must charge a higher rate by government mandate. If there were no gov legislative or financial support the private sector would compete and the costs would go down. I must stress that it is a corrupt process of corporatism that causes these distortions in the marketplace.
Just like the banking fiasco, corporatism has created the problem, let them fail and don’t allow monopolies.
The government has tilted the playing field toward the corporations rather than evened the playground with the individual.
We Are Not Yet Buying Into The Idea Of Recovery http://www.theinternationalforecaster.com/International_Forecaster_Weekly/We_Are_Not_Yet_Buying_Into_The_Idea_Of_Recovery
@Y’all
I reckon it must hard enuff… for the little wood spirits… without having Max Keiser bad mouth ya… on one of his financial shows… godfrey daniels is nothing sacred…. what are you…F.. F.. Fanatics!!!
@WL
on the ball today – couldnt agree more
What i was driving at is we dont brush 9/11 under the carpet
Which seems to be done now
N i feel 9/11 was thier biggest blunder lets see what Copenhagen has in store RODFL
These guys had a better chance remaining behind the scenes RODFL dummasses they were any which way in control RODFL but by exposing them selves we now know who they are RODFL
@Mep — “similar thing is happening in Canada … signs that are anti-Montreal Olympics”
Mep, can you post a link to this if you have one handy. btw, did you not mean to say the Vancouver Olympics?
In regards to Americans traveling to Canada… drugs yes, I’m aware of that. To Mexico… I’d always wondered if that wasn’t in fact happening. During this whole debate it seemed to me that proponents of changing the system were dropping the ball by not countering the “Canadians fleeing to the US for care” meme as such. Certainly you’re aware that I’m not inclined to give tips to the socialists, but this point was a curiosity to me.
@Youri:
Is it safe?
@13blackcats
Im pretty sure everyone is a proponent in changing the health care system – its just a difference in which direction the change should be.
Bye, Mep! Enjoyed reading your imput!
@13blackcats
Vancouver and 2010 Olympics detained and quetioned
http://www.democracynow.org/2009/11/30/amy_goodman_detained_at_canadian_border
@Bonn
You may find this read interesting.
http://www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmith_Rothschild.htm
Man gettin refucked by another chick RODFL
So long as i keep my assets a secret I am safe
@All
Re healthcare
Take a look at cosmetic surgery, the costs have been falling in the US while the areas with government involvement are rising dramatically.
Plastic surgeons must compete between themselves, that drives down costs.
In all other areas the government interferes in the marketplace costs rise because the incentive to be efficient and innovate are removed. The service provider does not pay the expense or for failure.
I don’t suggest a completely free market system as there must be minimum quality standards in place..
Please no Plastic surgery jokes…
@ Justget Itright
Been through that a year back I know what i am up against and Gaurding me Wealth
@WL
in this current pending bill they would tax plastic surgery operations as part to finance costs – lol costs going up across the board.
@Joe
heh. Perhaps I should have worded that as “proponents of adopting the proposed…”
@Gordo
Merci beaucoup
N i aint Gung hoe over Gold will never be cause i think its a Scam and I think I am the only person in this Forum who says so , Its cool I dont mind being called an idiot as long as 50% plus feel Gold is the way to go u’ll be safe ti moment it go’s below 50% which can happen onernight wen u asleep hmmm errr
“extend and pretend” or “delay and pray” http://bit.ly/7eJK92
Bo Cutter’s Indictment of the Finance Industry http://bit.ly/7ZqkeS
@ 13blackcats – Ah, sorry, yes, I did mean Vancouver. Here is a video for you from Democracy Now!:
http://www.democracynow.org/2009/11/30/amy_goodman_detained_at_canadian_border
Doesn’t sound good.
@ frances – Had to come back . . . it occurred to me that by calling PETA and those other animal rights and environmental activist groups “terrorist threats,” the USDA could have shut them all right down. I mean, if I were to sign up for PETA or give them a donation, wouldn’t that make me either a terrorist or a funder of terrorism? And aren’t all of those groups international? Does that mean that all other countries have to treat those groups as terrorist organizations, too?! If any of that is the case, that is really super disturbing instead of just really disturbing. (Scroll down here to see names of corporations that might have an interest in shutting these groups down.)
@yall
I know you have gone through this already but how do you add a picture to your posts?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00p2z8g/Thinking_Allowed_02_12_2009/
Anthropology in an unusual setting: Wall Street. Laurie Taylor talks to the anthropologist who gave up her academic life for over a year to become an investment banker in order to study life on Wall Street. She explains why she immersed herself in the culture of high finance, high risk and high reward and why she thinks it was the culture of Wall Streeters which brought the world’s financial system to the edge of catastrophe.
TY, Gordo.
@ Joe- Go here: http://en.gravatar.com/site/signup It is pretty self-explanatory.
Gold I need it RODFL like hell i need it what for ???????????????????????????????????????????
As a heat dissipater in a Mc Laren F1 car that i cant afford
TY @Mep
@ WL
You might have a point on that but it never works out that way.
Do you have any proof that :
“Fedex and UPS must charge a higher rate by government mandate.”
@Joe
create an account!!!
http://en.gravatar.com/
Till now nobody’s given a valued argument on Gold
@Bonn
I guess I have not said it in so many words but yes I think it is a scam also.
@Bonn
I think its because its always been a valuable means for exchange and has held that value since people started trading goods – it was posted on here before and is a valid argument
My 100% advice is invest in the health industry
U gonna see bigger returns on that for sure
@bonn
investing in the HC industry will net you more worthless currency in the end that will continue to decline. In terms of pricing the stock market relative to gold the market has not risen but fallen overall – I dont own any gold but it is in my opinion a better investment
@ Joe
I give up if ya think Gold is the way to go go ahead
I would rather advice on stuff people actually use to safe gaurd themselfs like health or real estate ( but the Real estate thingy u gotta enter early otherwise u a done deal as in u wont make the $$$$$$$$$) Copper Iron so many options out there
Re: Amy Goodman story — “their car was gone through by armed border guards”
The agents responsible for protecting our border have guns now? Who knew?
As to CBC, the biggest propaganda mouthpiece in this country, making this a free speech issue — that’s rich. But notice they don’t report on who the players behind the Olympic movement are, and why border police are protecting the interests of those people, or that a large segment of the population, for various reasons, are dead set against hosting the Olympics…
@frances snoot “Ist it Safe”
Yes, it safe.
Than you supose to pull my tooth and because I don’t know the answer and are in a terrible pain I begin to change my answer to see what the reaction of my Nazi torturers is.
No, its not safe
Cause you (playing the torturer) don’t trust my answer anymore you think, he lets torture this guy some more to get the right answer (Problem: I don’t know the right answer) so
You pull my second teeth aaaaaaahhhhh!!!!!!!
Cause I am in such pain and don’t know what to answer is but only want to stop the pain a change my story again.
Yes it’s safe, it’s safe aaaaaaahhhhh stop the pain.
AAAAAAAAAAHHH!!!!!
Ok, it’s not safe, it’s not safe
(Watch the move The Marathon Man http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074860/ )
A perfect good example why torture is Bogus and is only succesfull to get false statements.
This pain btw was the only reason why I go to those Nazi dentist in the last place. I don’t like dentist they are not human. they can’t be trusted.
I am 0.025 % invested in Gold or Stock market
Dont trust those bitches
@california Doctor – thanks for that, yes, I thought it was this way but you don’t hear much about this in the health care debate; for some reason, many Americans don’t seem to mind private insurance company and private pharma selling data back and forth to each other . . . strange that, but there you go; also don’t seem to mind private death panels, maybe that is what it all comes down to, do you want a private label execution squad or not?
“In the technotronic society the trend would seem to
be towards the aggregation of the individual support of
millions of uncoordinated citizens, easily within the reach
of magnetic and attractive personalities effectively exploiting
the latest communication techniques to manipulate emotions
and control reason.”
—Zbigniew Brzezinski,
National Security
Advisor to
Jimmy Carter.
@stacy
The choice is either reform the corporate pigs in health care in order to make it a truly fair-market or you align with a plan offered by the war mongering, imperialist, corrupt government. In either case nothing comes ‘free’
@Joe – you think it is the government that is war-mongering? And not the Military-Industrial Complex? These are private corporations, not the government. See earlier link to CNBC pushing 8 shares that will do well with increase in Afghanistan troop levels.
All stocks are too volitile to bet on
OFC u know I am a guy who belives in a nuke war that happend in our past so plz dis regaured me cause me insane RODFL
@Youri:
Good explanation: forgot the Nazis are sadistic so your pain is always their pleasure.
@stacy
great point! – I also think that with that fact Obama and company are genuinely worried of Pakistani nukes falling into the Taliban’s hands along with trying to save face. No doubt though im sure the military industrial complex’s private interests outweigh the other concerns.
I just am not sure that a single-payer system is economically sustainable in the long-run. But there have been some good points otherwise.
Dentists are there to take away your pain: trust them, Youri. Trust….just breath deeply….this won’t hurt a bit….go to sleep….YANK.
What amazes me is that we all so freakin scared of a Nuke war that we cant think it happend before RODFL
Shut down Globalization?
That would be un-AMERICAN
Yes y’all me heading towards the Craters again
RODFL
Selective astroids huh ?
@ Joe – Obama was fearmongering last night to scare Americans into uniting behind a bad decision to escalate. Other sources say the nukes are safe. If the Taliban or AQ got their hands on nukes, it would be because we sold them the parts and the technology.
@frances snoot
“Good explanation: forgot the Nazis are sadistic so your pain is always their pleasure.”
Yep, that’s why these Nazi’s can always be found in the front rows for enlisting the dentist class. Than they can inflict pain legaly and put that big interogation spotlight in your face. And they know that you will always be laying there with your your eyes closed so you won’t notice their sic sadistic pleasure snauts.
I am an Anti-Dentite
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ythrdCsOFJU
Inflation/deflation debate was also big in the 1930′s.
Some Nazi’s dentist even convert to Judiesm to hide their wicked ways http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mV7m6IIN_tI
@stacy
Exactly! Governments are run by lawmakers, in the US that means lobbyists, which means corporate lawyers. Governments are merely the vehicle, how it is driven is up to those who pay to be in the driver’s street, this is why paticipatory democracy in america is first ignored, then ridiculed, and then deemed a ‘threat’ if need be.
@ Joe – YW. Nice pic.
Sometimes I don’t know whether to post in the jibber jabber section or not, b/c it seems like everyone has left there . . . this is a piece of jib jab about surveillance:
Sprint fed police customer GPS data over 8 million times!
Incredible! I’m just about ready to stop using my phone all together. We are definitely living in post-constitutional, post-democracy America.
@bonn
Gold bullion in your possession is the safest storage of wealth period. The other things you mention are good but all have a risk to them, deterioration, default, taxation, or regulation. Not that they are bad just different risks.
@Stacy
So now the government gets your personal data to sell, nice improvement.
@Joe
welcome to the virtual world
@All
Amy Goodwin
I cross that border all the time, the guards are mostly university students who can be overzealous, I have had my car car searched before, it is no big deal. The story is over hyped. The US border is far worse.
@Gordo
Here, I agree it can get ugly but government involvement drives up cost, instead they should be referee between the service provider and user, the problem is corporatism.
Private Express Statutes
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_Express_Statutes
@frances
I got nothing for ya
@Youri:
Ya know the difference between a dentist and a sadist, don’t ya?
Newer magazines.
HAHAHAHAHA
I got nothing for ya.
Well, do ya wanna hear a yo mama?
Yo mama’s so nasty, she went to a hair salon and told the stylist to cut her hair, then she opened up her blouse!!
HAHAHAHAHAHA
@WL:
I can SEE! I see GOLD!
http://www.itrush.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/night-vision-gold-rimmed-glasses.jpg
good LORDY. Now I GET IT.
@youri carma
‘A perfect good example why torture is Bogus and is only succesfull to get false statements.’
Yes torture is bogus, and produces many a fictional tale, but it is also quite succesful at controlling the greater population through fear, which historically has been its main purpose.
@frances
nice shades, I like yours better
http://www.fastfancydress.co.uk/templates/imagedirectory/gold%20star%20lg.jpg
Did you see my chart from yesterday
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=$INDU:$GOLD&p=D&yr=3&mn=0&dy=0&id=p42149338611
@WL – you make very good comments
@ StaceyHerbert – You are welcome.
The stuff I’m talking about is just the tip of the iceberg.
When you look under the berg, you see 90% more of the underwater and unseen garbage.
This underwater level includes contracts with doctors to NOT provide care (called capitation), contracts to deny payment for services, and contracts to foreign hedge funds.
I’ve had multiple doctors tell me about funds in foreign countries where the money goes to the foreign fund through an “insurance” contract or something like that.
During the Bush 43 Admin, the federal law enforcement and investigation process was dismantled with obvious impact in the financial services sector. But, healthcare was on the receiving end of a serious drain on the sector’s economics related to the same financial instruments.
It is not a coincidence that Max is talking about short sales on US citizen life insurance.
There is a peculiar lack of reporting of data from state and federal authorities related to the H1N1 epidemic. This is likely due to the fact that the information is not good.
I serve vodka with cornish pasties. I’ll drink Australian wine when I will be on wealthfare and the federal government will hand out Australian wine to dole recepients, along with yellow American cheese.
There is a peculiar lack of reporting of data from state and federal authorities related to the H1N1 epidemic. This is likely due to the fact that the information is not good.
@CaliDoc:
That’s quite an assumption.
I just think the H1N1 hoax just didn’t work, and now the stazi are marshaling around all the corporate fraud surrounding the gore greenshirt fascism.
@Zach:
Yes. The HINI ‘pandemic’ was pretty farcical.
frances
This is likely due to the fact that the information is not good.
what do you mean? worse to come?
Denmark approves new police powers ahead of Copenhagen
Controversial legislation gives police sweeping powers of ‘pre-emptive’ arrest and extends custodial sentences for acts of civil disobedience.
Danish police will be able to detain people for up to 12 hours whom they suspect might break the law in the near future.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/nov/26/denmark-police-powers-copenhagen
At this point the focus of the civil protest is immaterial. What ever the cause or issue, one’s right to simply participate in legal, civil protest is being eroded. We are now at the “pre-crime” Orwellian hour.
Whether one supports or opposes a cause, civil protest has always played a key role in balancing perspectives and encouraging further dialogue.
@Warburg:
I think the sars epidemic and the hinia swine epidemic both were simular. Both featured draconian measures instituted through WHO for a nebulous danger. This is science? We get rumour, no testing for the virus, and a prescribed antiviral which is a known neuropsychotic danger to teens and which Oxford University declared more risk than benefit for the ‘swine flu’ pathogen.
Worse yet to come? Ukraine was a good example of what WHO is capable of. The pathogen in the instance was not even isolated and yet declared to be viral when the symptoms were persuasively bacterial (pneumonic plague).
Hi California Doc, I am on the other end of the economic scale…any lower and I would be sleeping under a bridge.
I am one of those that went through medical bankruptcy; my late husband was a dialysis patient, and I was his sole caregiver. Something few realize- in California, if you use Medi-Cal, the state inherits your estate (if you have anything) as compensation. For many who are unemployed or working poor, they are required to spend down all their liquid assets to qualify for Medi-Cal. That means all retirement money one might have saved over their life, any life insurance, etc. is gone. So when my husband died, I was left penniless; I did get the house, but had to sign the paperwork saying the state will get it when I die. There is something wrong with a country where you must go broke and jump through a thousand hoops to get medical care.
Surprisingly, once in the system, however, the care my husband received was outstanding. The doctors made sure he got the treatments he needed, when they were needed. There were some screwups, but no great harm came from them.
The main problem with US medical system is it is designed to fix things after they break. There is almost no emphasis on preventive care, because there is no profit in it. If people had inexpensive access to regular simple medical checkups, many of the costly diseases could be prevented or treated very early. My husband and a close friend would still be alive today if they had been able to see doctors without going broke.
I am all for single payer. Screw the private insurance companies, they are incompetent and greedy. Screw having insurance tied to employment, that is so wrong. We are only as strong as the weakest in our society.
@norkalkid:
I agree completely with your post! Thanks so much for sharing that!
It’s only a paper spoon…
sailing over a cardboard sea.
I’ve always thought of It’s Only a Paper Moon as a leitmotif for FDR (in my screeenplay). “It wouldn’t be make believe if you’d beliefe in me.”
Paper spoon works well for Obama…
PS
One of the (many) reasons I love your shows is that you not only are interested in/telling the truth about the financial world but you understand that the economy world is only a subset of the ecology world.. Not very many get it right on both. (Al Gore did with his Earth in the Balance..most don’t realize that is a JOKE of his, what do you weigh the earth against?)
Max and Stacy,
Have you considered giving some time on one of your programs to the fraudulent leveraged ETFs? They are designed to go to zero over time; thus, there is no risk to the originators as long as they have the capital to whether any initial moves against them. How is such a trading vehicle legal? Is it that they are the equivalent to options with volatility substituting for time decay?
Goldman must be behind the origination of these things!
@MaxKeiser
Hey Max, you seem to be quite green in your thinking. Are you trading some of your Gold for carbon futures?
Nice show. I’m in Australia now… won’t be drinking any of their alcoholic sugar-water. Maybe I can find some Martinborough or Otago Pinot Noir over here…
@ I just think the H1N1 hoax just didn’t work, and now the stazi are marshaling around all the corporate fraud surrounding the gore greenshirt fascism.
Now now dont discount them so easily they did’nt think twice on Sept u have to watch out for these numbskulls
Hve been following the H1N1 since the beginning and it was hyped from the beginning with at least 2-3 articles a day in Reuters while there were just a vew casulties world wide. You wonder why?
At a certain point the WHO stopt counting while the virus season was just beginning. You wonder why?
Now there seem to be some serious cases in the Ukrane with a mutated version of the virus and you hear nothing? You wonder why?
Here’s an oversight from press releases by the CDC: http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/press/
Reports of Changes to the 2009 H1N1 Virus
November 24, 2009 6:00 PM ET http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/in_the_news.htm#c
2009 H1N1 Flu: International Situation Update November 30, 2009, 5:00 PM ET http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/updates/international/
2009-2010 Influenza Season Week 46 ending November 21, 2009 http://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/
Graphical Representations of a Generic Influenza Virus
http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/images.htm#3D
WHO: Pandemic (H1N1) 2009 – update 76
Weekly update
27 November 2009 — As of 22 November 2009, worldwide more than 207 countries and overseas territories or communities have reported laboratory confirmed cases of pandemic influenza H1N1 2009, including over 7820 deaths.
http://www.who.int/csr/disease/swineflu/updates/en/
The icebergs seem to be heading the wrong direction now due to winds, but there could be more on the way.
Yes New Zealand has a large wine industry now and produces some of the best wines in the world. Many vineyards were created over the recent boom years. Some contract growers have got in trouble with some of the wineries not taking their grapes or only taking much lower volumes than they hoped. Many had to cut back production to maintain price to avoid leaving a big glut on the market.
24 July 2009, The CDC said 43,771 cases of H1N1 influenza had been officially confirmed, with 302 deaths. She said the CDC would no longer report cases and was working on better ways to estimate how many people had been infected.
The pandemic spread globally in less than two months and has infected people in 160 countries, killing 800 people, the World Health Organization said. The WHO numbers do not include the latest CDC count.
20 August 2009: The World Health Organization declared H1N1 a full pandemic in June and it has now spread to some 180 countries, causing only 1,462 laboratory-confirmed deaths.
4 September 2009: H1N1 has killed 2,837, virus has not mutated -WHO, Geneva (Reuters) Virus circulating widely, has killed at least 2,837 * Genetic sequencing shows no virus mutation, WHO says.
22 November 2009: worldwide more than 207 countries and overseas territories or communities have reported laboratory confirmed cases of pandemic influenza H1N1 2009, including over 7820 deaths.
(normal) Seasonal flu kills between 250,000 and 500,000 people globally in an average year so what are we talking about here?
@James
Suggest you Kiwi’s ask compensation money from the IPCC. The wine farmers just have to say ” If it wasn’t for global warming I never would have stayed in the wine business”
We just go to AL Gores house and confiscate his wine, that should learn him. And at the same time ask the scamsters for Ski lesson money so you guys can switch your business to Ski Scholing. I demand Al Gore personaly that he keeps his Polar bears from my frond yard or I feed him to them….that should teach him.
LOve this song, can’t get it outtof my head Hide The Decline – Climategate http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEiLgbBGKVk
Donnow if I imagined it but I realy thought I just heard some goose flying over here. A sign that it’s getting cold in the North and some time later here.
@ Any & All
Australia increasing their bank reserve requirement from 9% to 15%…? Can’t find a link for this yet… anyone got anything?
Oh yeah, almost forgot — Wine Economist blog…
http://wineeconomist.com/
Wine is a significant export earner now for NZ – a recent article below.
NZ achieves $1 billion wine export milestone (16 September 2009)
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/BU0909/S00441.htm
An updated commentary on the wine industry, economy and surplus stock is due out in the media here on TVNZ morning business news.
It is really the dairy industry holding up the economy here at the moment – although a lower NZDUSD would help exporters more.
@Max – You are a hockey player and fan of the sport. I always knew that you had Canadian traits. Baseball and football are just fillers for the real sport – hockey
Maybe you can start a team with members of this site. We can form a team and take on the banksters!
@NorCalKid
I’m very sorry to hear of the loss of your husband. The Medi-Cal system is entirely corrupted.
I have also had a personal, family experience with a family member who had to lose everything they owned in order to provide care.
I have reached the conclusion that the absence of a single payor system is due to the banksters and political elite using the private insurance system to defraud the American people.
While the terms “privacy” are thrown around by the right wing pundits, the reality is that there is no “privacy” for any medical information.
Your husband likely passed from kidney complications from diabetes. These “end organ” complications are well understood and related to the lousy quality of food in California.
Because the food quality is poor in the grocery stores, the people are eating fast food rather than “whole foods”.
The end result is that your body degenerates faster from the lousy food and water quality.
H1N1 is for real.
It’s a new influenza strain that has pieces of swine, bird/avian, and human strains.
An Australian researcher claims that the most plausible explanation is that it is an escaped virus from a biotech facility.
On the other hand, some vets noted other triple reassortant viruses about 10 years ago, but those viruses never made it into the human population.
For the people claiming that H1N1 is a farce or somehow a joke, or overhyped…
1. The pandemic flu virus (pH1N1) is a new form of flu. There may be multiple different sub-clusters which have various mutations. These mutations in the H and N genes lead to the different clinical behaviors of the virus.
2. I am not totally discounting the media hype. There is clearly a hype process going on, but there is also a clear threat from the new virus. This threat is global and it is real.
Older adults may say that pH1N1 is no different from a regular flu, but that is false. The kids and pregnant women are dying from this virus at a much different rate than regular influenza.
@CaliDoc:
Do you have any links for your assertions?
@ frances snoot
Links?
I don’t need f’ing links when I’m the doctor making the diagnosis and treating the patients.
I certainly do not need a second rate public health system telling me I’m wrong when I’m the one with the license on the line.
Just because my facts do not align with your presumptions does not mean I need to post links.
Who the hell would you believe? The links from the CDC are six weeks behind or never publish the data we really need.
The links from the media are clueless. The media reporters working the H1N1 beat are clueless about what is really going on and they choose not to cover the real stories.
Do you honestly think that the information on the net is reflective of the facts in the doctor’s offices around the planet?
Hell no it’s not. The media messaging on this H1N1 epidemic has been horrible.
@CaliDoc:
Well, I ain’t yur patient. Why you losing yours?
Patience that is. And I was talking about reputable scientific links: the kind you doc types like up the ying-yang. Like here’s one a layman could to lay their hands on:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/swine-flu/6004014/Swine-flu-Tamiflu-harm-outweighs-benefits-for-children.html
Here’s the article from the University of Oxford itself:
http://www.ox.ac.uk/media/news_stories/2009/090810.html
Why is WHO ignoring this study? Why do the doctors continually push antivirals?
“Do you honestly think that the information on the net is reflective of the facts in the doctor’s offices around the planet?”
Well, I think the net is a handy tool for connecting to peer-reviewed journal articles or scientific studies from Universities. The doctors around here just follow CDC protocol mostly. I think one is better off with information from the net than from the spurious practices of the CDC in America.
It should be easy enough for you to link a scientific publication who has isolated the HINIa/swine virus as the pathogen behind the supposed pandemic. Why don’t you?
Mr. Cal Doc:
I honestly think that doctors have united to take one giant step backwards into the middle ages. If this IS the 21st century, why DON”T they publish a review on the isolated pathogens behind not only the swine flu scare but also the recent Ukranian mystery flu?
You should not be affronted in the least by anyone, especially a patient, who would to ask you for substance for your beliefs other than “practice”.
@snoot – go to medical school in the US and then come back and lecture me.
Go google H1N1 and have at it.
I’m not your personal doctor and have no desire to be.
i’m here for info on the financial reality of the econ, not to be lectured or grilled about my management of H1N1 in our area.
If you have such questions, call your doctor but don’t waste my time with BS links to various websites.
The CDC and Public Health are a part of the problem in the H1N1 response.
Not only is the epidemic severe, it is killing people every day in this country. We’re just now entering the flu season but have already surpassed the typical levels for the entire flu season (even before the season starts).
Beyond this info, do not ask me for a dissertation on the molecular basis of how influenza overrides your immune system.
If some people want to believe that H1N1 is not an issue, they should stay the hell away from offering medical advice on the internet.
CDC and public health damaged our response with the horrible distribution of the vaccines, which continues.
If you are so brainwashed to not want vaccine, I’m laughing at you. You were not selected for the vaccines because the “system” has routed the vaccines to the “chosen” in the “tribe”.
I guess its not “your tribe”.
go to medical school in the US and then come back and lecture me.
@CaliDoc:
Sorry. I don’t take advise from strangers.
If you have such questions, call your doctor but don’t waste my time with BS links to various websites.
@CaliDoc:
How do we know you’re a doctor? And I wasn’t questioning you as I really couldn’t care less what you think. You are rude and intolerably arrogant for no reason other than a species of pride or a threatened stance.
@CaliDoc:
It’s apparent that you have nothing to back your claims of the danger to public health concerning this undocumented viral agent other than your supposed medical practice. Your reaction to a legitimate inquiry was one of ostensive rudeness. I would never consider a doctor that treated me with disrespect for the desire to make an intelligent choice concerning my own medical treatment.
And if I choose or do not choose to vaccinate myself is really none of your business. I can’t imagine why you would insert such a ridiculous addition to your excessive rant.
Perhaps you are frustrated with life or your practice, but I would rather not be the outlet for your impudent aggression.
@Mr.WhositDoc:
You are the first person I’ve heard declare that Oxford University as a BS link.
@frances snoot -
Since google is available to you and you decline to use it, perhaps you should use bing instead?
You asked for more info. I have given you my opinion as a practicing physician at the epicenter of the epidemic.
The fact you choose to ignore me is only a reflection of your own issues, not mine.
Your attitude reflects the selfish, give-me-advice-for-free attitude of many around California. While they ask for your time, your health, and your life; you are convinced of a lie.
It’s kinda like your mortgage isn’t it sir?
That’s because its created by the same clan.
You asked for opinion. If you can’t hack it, get out of the blog.
You need to define your sources of credible medical information.
Otherwise, this discussion is a waste of my time.
Go troll in another thread.
I’m sure that Max and Stacey have a number of troll baiting agents. We’ve seen this behavior pop up whenever blogs start getting closer to the reality of the situation.
H1N1 is neither a fabrication nor a “normal” virus.
“Go troll in another thread.”
Your posts are so redundantly irrelevant and based on such fluff that I hardly feel obliged to protest that I might have ‘taken the bait’ as a ‘troll’ with your person.
Do you have such aspiration of nobility outside of medicine?
I can assure you, Mr. Anonymous Doctoral Disinclined, that I would rather die of some catastrophic calamity than be obliged to you for advise.
So. Did the doc tell you anything.
Well, I’m not sure he is a doc? He said something about being in the epicenter of a perceived threat and then refused to dialogue rationally.
Sure.
No, really. And then took such umbrage with me when all I asked was for some reading material. He said I should bing.
Bing?
Yes. Is that a dance?
Well, doctors don’t like to communicate. They spent all their youth going to school and then they think we should just trust them on principal. I think they assume we are stupid.
Oh. Well, no problems. I’m going to learn that bing dance and ignore the doctors instead!
AHHH. The bing dance:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqnDGRpxB4A