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“Aint got no money” Justin T feat. dunno who love u’all going to Sleep
Hey Stacey n Max if ya ever land up in Bangalore give me a call we’ll play golf at KGA :-;
Doomsday Vault Protects World’s Seeds on “60 Minutes”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXW_vzQppGI
Doomsday Seed Vault, SkyNews
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUlToC4lxX8
http://tinyurl.com/some-how-didntwork
Interesting link dunno of its authentcity
http://www.stewwebb.com/Satanism%20Rockefeller's%20NWO%20Agenda.html
LOL I’am like horton hears a who
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01184/arts-graphics-2008_1184641a.jpg
RODFL Hic
Peak – Bulshit PMSL Esp seeing the last 10 years LOL
Like I said Throw History 101 outta the Window too
And I said it once before I wonder how the Events of Sept 9/11 will be written in History books
Along with Economics 101
Just add 4 Large Corporations for all Industries
Food Industry , OEM’s hmmm errr Pharma hmmm
Oks I’ll go a step futher
I have lottsa Info.
A flight over Chowpatty that made history
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/msid-890055,prtpage-1.cms
http://www.gaudiya-repercussions.com/index.php?showtopic=2138
@ Bonn
Perhaps the people who think you’re nuts are more integrated into their received, standardized belief system. Now that the media has become BB, people sincerely believe that everything they need to know is out there in the general or “alternative” media. There has also been quite a campaign to marginalize dissenting voices and anyone who dares question authority.
In science, even when a particular branch is in shreds, nobody’s game to say so. There’s too much at stake. Young researchers who are aware of the problems only whisper about the cracks in the edifices; retired scientists tend to be a little bolder. Those who do speak out get slaughtered, sometimes physically and not just in terms of their careers.
Fomenko’s books look like fun. I haven’t read them yet. The pan-Russian pitch is not a problem. We have to use some discernment and go from there. Sometimes the craziest claims are closest to the truth. The bridges have been burnt so we can rarely leap across the chasms.
http://www.bookmasters.com/marktplc/01098.htm
@Stacy:
we know that space can travel faster than the speed of light
Space travel of what relative to the speed of light?
When i went ranting about the craters and how Illogical it is that meteors are very selective where they land People thought I was nuts.
@ anything but green.again
I dont post stuff cause people think I am Looney
Yes i’ve seen that a year or so back.
So I am happy to be content with my own Beliefs.
Oops, Bonn, just checked your links. The quote’s there. Sorry.
” When asked in an interview at Rochester University seven years after the Alamogordo nuclear test whether that was the first atomic bomb ever to be detonated, his reply was, “Well, yes, in modern history.”
@ Bonn
“When Oppenheimer saw the huge cloud rising over the desert, he later reported, a passage from the Bhagavad Gita came to him: “I am become Death, the shatterer of worlds.” ”
What are the odds of a scientist knowing such Indian texts off by heart?
Do you remember how he corrected a reporter’s reference to the bomb being the first ever? He said something like “The first in OUR time.”
thanks StayC….keep it real.
Mike
http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/view/68842
http://www.zenzibar.com/news/article.asp?id=1768
We’ll have to start living the Armish way helping everyone in the community RODFL
And I do believe “Free Energy ” exists
Hic
But ramifications of letting that outta the Closet means
Loss of Power , Status etc Everyone becomes Equal
@ Stacey
You know me I belive that a Nuke war took place long time ago so you’ll probably think I ‘am Looney
There’s Just too much Evidense
The amount of Inventions in the last 100 years is just not feasable someones helping or some book was found some where
Like I said before If you told me 20 years back that I could Interact with anybody on the Earth Intantly as we do here I woulda called you Looney.
@Bonn – we know that space can travel faster than the speed of light, and right now galaxies are moving away from each other at faster than the speed of light; I believe that E=MC2 & quantum mechanics run into a problem past the event horizon and into the black hole . . . they are searching for an answer via quantum gravity
All you’d achive is Equivalent to a Camera Recording LOL thought about this a lot Hic
Yup E= MC Square is in Question now by scientests
they are saying at the CERN – The Large Hadron Collider
that you can go faster than the speed of light
And now come to think of it saying time travel would be possible if you go faster than light is Baloney
@Stacy
Ah, so we do see eye to eye on something!
The divisions are artificially created and well-tried tools for herding us. If you whore around the sites without regard to political or religious affiliations, you can discover some amazing stuff.
BTW, Einstein was an artificially created “hero” set up to stymie scientific research in the commoners’ world. Sorreeeeeeee.
@Phil – where I grew up in Connecticut, we were so far from anything, including our school, so I had to wait for bus at 7.15am!!! And our driveway was really long, so I had to leave at like 6.45 (a bit of an exaggeration); you can imagine I was the crankiest 10 year old on planet; the funny thing though is that I would wake up at like 6.43, take a one minute shower and then dress quickly, and run out the door; so in the winter, my hair would usually freeze by the time I got to the bus stop
@anything but green.again – I know we don’t see eye to eye on anything but it is good to have you here; I don’t like group think and excluding differing opinions; I do notice that many US based blogs fall rigidly into that right/left, red state/blue state, Dem/Republican thing and each side just shouts down the other; I think that is ultimately dangerous; and even if it seems like I am 100% certain of some of my opinions, I am fact only ever about 95% convinced, I like to leave at least some small margin of doubt in my own mind; Einstein is my hero for the way he dedicated much of his life to proving that some of his theories were wrong!
@Joe .. wow you are>/b> up early !
Washington DC – right outside it
@Stacy
Still up then. Shall look forward to it.
Really enjoy your appearances. Hope you’re on.
Just because we don’t see eye-to-eye on practically anything doesn’t mean I don’t love ya.
@Stacy … waking up.
Yeah .. I hate mornings.
My wife has to get the kids to school at 8:00 … in winter when it’s dark , it’s really depressing.
WhyTF doesn’t society “wake up” and get up as the sun rises … like humans have been accustomed to do for thousands of years.
All to do with keeping the debt salves working methinks !
@ Stacey
these Citys are mainly Export oriented
Ludhiana Sports Goods
Bangalore – IT S/W, and I am Jobless RODFL not dishing your Site LOL
Pune IT S/W textiles Jewelry
Mumbai- Our Stock Exchange,
New Delhi – Well Power House of India so
Chennai, Hyderabad – IT S/W
@anything but green.again – set your alarm for two hours from now when I will be posting next episode of the Keiser Report! Guest is Matt Taibbi and it’s a fun one.
@Phil – it’s only 10.45 in Paris, 9.45 in London . . . that’s not so late to be waking up
‘Morning, Stacy.
Some of us are far, far away from where you are. I’m supposed to be sleeping when things get lively your end.
@Joe .. just woke up ?
Where are you geographically ? Atlantic Ocean ?
stacyherbert
Dec 3, 2009 at 2:40 am
Stacy, soon the entire wrold will be tuning in to your stuff. Being right does count for something. If just 2% tune in of the 6.8 billion people on earth, that will make 136 million on your computer.
Hope your servers can take it. That should make Max/Stacy the largest media outlet in the world. Poor Rush Limbaugh and American Idol.
@ stacey
70 X 100 = 7000 ok I’ll add 70,000 out of how many
70,000
1,200,000,000 people
but then a gain I think only some 2 % will probably have Net accesss Will go and Check on those Figure’s
@ Bonn
They are all on very short leashes.
“His wife, Carol is a member of the Velasco Order of the Eastern Star and maintains her membership in the Freeport area lodge.
Their daughters, Lori and Joy, were both Rainbow girls, another organization associated with Freemasonry.”
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread354189/pg1
That means at least three generations, and heavily worked over mentally/emotionally. Heard his granpa was a Freemason. The actors are bound to obey orders on pain of death, and are generally controlled by blackmail (mainly for pedophilia and worse, photographed or filmed–that’s how Hunter S. Thomson rose up the ladder, making snuff films starring prominent politicians–it’s one of the functions of the Bohemian Grove, to get all the busy bees into compromising situations–they throw all their cares away, remember?).
@ stacyherbert
Bangalore is probably because of me RODFL
But Actually most business in India are’nt listed on the Stock Market So we are relatively safe even if there is a Global Financial Melt down
We’ll Just have to Looking Inwards here In India and concentrate on the markets in India
@Bonn – we had visits from 70 cities in India in the past 30 days; these are the top cities in order of traffic and all had over 100 visitors: Ludhiana, Bangalore, Pune, Mumbai, New Delhi, Chennai, Hyderabad
@Bonn
People who follow MSM investments and advice will get screwed again when this market goes down. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. I remember mid-summer early fall 2007 when MSM and government officials were chattin about how strong the economy was and how it had perfect fundamentals (Bernanke infamous quote)
do you people sleep?? I just woke up to see this convo still going strong – Love it!
@dan valley – re: the next bottom in gold; ugh, I don’t know as I don’t read charts; when I find a good article that gives a number, I will post it for you; but I would suspect that it won’t go below $1000 before April 2010; I can’t recall seeing any 20% corrections at this time of the year; there have been one or two 50% corrections, but those happened between April/May and August; so if gold is at $1400 by April/May, then a 50% correction would be $700 . . . but, again, I don’t do charts, so take this with a grain of salt . . . or a shot of whiskey
@Bonn … MSNBC / From Global warming –> Climate change –> Earth could plunge into sudden ice age
Yes, volatility in the climatic cycles could cause such an action ; especially if the Gulf Stream pump stops suddenly.
One can just hope it doesn’t happen too soon.
@ Bonn
They are all pirates, on board. Otherwise they are jailed or Wellstoned. RP’s just the false hope, the distraction, the energy sink.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_x6inINzThw
@ Phil
That vid is one of my favorite funnies.
@ Phil
There are very few People in India who know who Peter Schiff is or Max or Ron Paul
I gather not more than 100 People
Plus I dont tell anyone iether
tried to warn my Bro whos in Detroit, But he seems Oblivious and belives MSM , Anyway I got his Arse covered too in case of a Financial Meltdown.And that idiot is Older than me.
Wow , great mix of geographies on this board.
Bangalore, Bangkok + Australia, NZ, France, Germany , UK, US, Canada etc. etc.
Im in Bangkok…so I know corruption
@ Phil
Yes have been to Goa twice
and Bangalore has a AC kinda Climate Summers reach 28 degrees Celcius Bangalore is 3000 Feet above Sea Level its 20 degrees i Guess now
PS@currencies
Courtesy of “couplover” @IV Precious Metals
NK – Chaos Reigns after Currency “Trick”
http://www.dailynk.com/english/read.php?cataId=nk01500&num=5721
Vietnam Devalues Currency and Raises Interest Rates
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/26/business/global/26devalue.html?_r=1
North Korea Revalues Its Currency
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/02/business/global/02korea.html
@ Dan
No man it ‘s prity cool to live here
You can have servants 500 $ a month will get yo 3 of em
You can Drink and Drive
Hell people Kill people while Driving under the Influence
and get off Scott Free
We have Corruption from the Grass roots here
RODFL
It’s not like our politicians are full of s..t or anything, I mean, sheesh! :-p
@Bonn .. Bangalore
Wow .. must be hot !
Have you been to Goa ?
@ bonn…you poor bastard
@ Dan
Yup Me an Indian in Bangalore India
I guess this is the breaking NEWS for Today
Parliament Runs Out Of Toilet Paper
http://www.officialwire.com/main.php?action=posted_news&rid=48580&catid=8
RODFL
@ bonn…your in india?
And I belive the Sky high Salaries people were demanding is gone South now
Man the Real estate buble here had gone astronimical
1500 Sq feet appt was going at 250 K $ 3 years back.
So we should see the Bubble burst there are many Ghost Appt complex’s here in Bangalore
@ Bonn while you wait check this out……
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8957268309327954402&hl=en#
Quiet indeed. Near total blackout on the biggest financial story in history. Shhh…
Remember, we have to confine comments on you-know-what to this corner:
http://maxkeiser.com/2009/11/30/climate-change-denying-jibber-jabber/#comments
I’ll post something about that sudden ice age story in the deniers’ corner.
Scuse me for a sec.
Oh my Grand Dad’s brother still tills the farm in Punjab
Always wanted to get away from the Rat race and go and join him after setting up a small Gym there
Just good old organic food and Clean air and Gym
I hope i can get to do that some point in time
Man I am planning to shift to Linux but i think I’ll buy another Comp. Wanna get into annimation . I wanna do a 2 hr annimation on 9/11 a step by step annimation starting from 2000 till 2004 or so
things are rolling here but I suspect they will drop off end of the month…never to return…..Im seriously looking into farmland.
@ Dan
Nothing much Whisky every night
just wondering it is un-usually Calm generally world wide.
still no Jobs here People ar hiring only very specialist guys and me friend lost his Job in CISCO meaning he was forced out of his Job so he put in his papers.
soooo hows things bonn?
@ Dan
They probably asleep
But Stacey should be online any moment
@Sax and Macy…where is the next bottom in gold and when do you see it happening?
Helloooooooo?
@ Stacey & MAx
“Things seem to have suddenly gone Quite Quiet”
What around the corner ? Any Clues
O´ mama: Alfred Nobel stated that the ones who should be awarded the prize should be those “who have worked most or best for the people’s brotherhood and the abolition or reduction of standing armies”.
Considering how relatively isolated N Korea is from the world economy, you would think that the country should not be having any problems.
However, this only seems to apply best to the more tropical Cuba.
As Korea has had many eras of two kingdoms, it will be interesting to see who ends up being better off in the long run. North Korea was traditionally the winner in the 17th, 18th, and 19th centuries.
Scientist in climate flap to step down for now
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34239169/ns/us_news-environment/
@Sax and Macy…where is the next bottom in gold and when do you see it happening?
From Global warming –> Climate change –> Earth could plunge into sudden ice age
Experts: ‘Big Freeze’ about 12,800 years ago happened within months
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34242705/ns/technology_and_science-science/
Yet another piece of advice. Characters should be Ben Bernanke vs Max Keiser
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5h5cwCOWCOg
Yea !!!!!
Found another copy of The Gamble from “The Muppet Show.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxTmOOvigJY
New YouTube link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kn481KcjvMo
Too bad as the above link was Kenny Rogers doing The Gambler on “The Muppet Show.” Removed for copyright stuff, was good and funny as can be.
Madmen, Gamblers, Alcoholics, the US Dollar and Gold
http://www.321gold.com/editorials/hera/hera120209.html
Good article if you haven’t read it already. As the famous Kahn Noonien Singh [Racardo Mantalban] said on Star Trek, “I grow fatigued.”
I myself grow fatigued of all this crap and probably should take a vacation somewhere where there is no TV or internet. Just invest some gold profits in some fun.
With all this stuff, there is no way gold will ever go down again.
Owning this stuff IS A LOCK or if you prefer Texas Hold’em THE NUTS or this advice is good also:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu5W9G8s9YQ&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fjsmineset%2Ecom%2F&feature=player_embedded
@MEP – Regarding the Mark Ridley-Thomas (city council member) budgeting and spending $700,000.00 on a new office renovation
As I posted earlier today, California has become a kakistocracy, a keptomanic’s foolocracy.
All levels of government, from local city hall, county boards, and state executives/board/legislature are an international laughing stock.
These people are sociopaths…they have no conscience and express no remorse.
Barclays bankers to get 150pc pay rise
Barclays is set to award its 22,000 investment bankers pay rises of up to 150pc in an effort to beat Government moves to clamp down on multi-million-pound bonuses.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/banksandfinance/6712983/Barclays-bankers-to-get-150pc-pay-rise.html
@ Hop hop hope
Because I do it with one small ship, I am called a terrorist. You do it with a whole fleet and are called an emperor.
- St. Augustine of Hippo (from City of God, 5th century)
What a lame ass dumass St A was did he ever Question where his funds came from RODFL
The y fund Both Sides wake up
@ Jim ODonnell – Good one!
Stacey,
Greetings from snow besotted Anchorage .enjoying the Kiwi
show and ” Yes ” get Max some headphones.
Well, south america does have many chilena and argentina
marcas (labels). They are roughly equivalent to the french plonck you and the brits drink in Paris. What can I say ? I drink roughly the same. In SoCal it is ” Two Buck Chuck ” or Charles
Shaw Merlot, Beaujolais, Petite Sirah or the like. What the fuck ?
We are broke, Madame !
Brazil is my adopted homeland when I am not freezing my
…. off in Anchorage. The brazilians have no clue how to make wine, in spite of millions of italian, croatian and german immigrants. Their wines are absolutely awful..and expensive.
However, brazilians have other virtues to compensate for the
dearth of drinkable grape. ( Just don’t get your butt resculpted
there…could be fatal…ha ! ha ! Keep up the good work !
Take Care, Ron J
http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig8/sheehan-f3.1.1.html
Great Bernanke Rant…
@ Majestic – You got it. She sure is one phenomenal human being.
@ those of you who live in CA – what’s your opinion on this bit of LA news: http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=news/local/los_angeles&id=7148171&rss=rss-kabc-article-7148171
??
Report From The Future: Dateline – World Financial Center
As many will remember it was only a few years ago that 10 members of this sleepy, little Mississippi town pooled their gold coins and purchased New York City and had it moved their to area be the new financial capital of the world.
As NYC long ago became bankrupt it agreed immediately to the deal. Most of the current new residents are prospering as they now work for the most successful brokerage company in the world: Brooks, Dunn & Larry.
This firms fortune was made and continues to make markets primarily in Pork Bellies, Cotton and Gold. Most are happy working for their new employer although they complain that the only radio station in town is the clear-channel: All George Jones All The Time – 1 billion watt powerhouse.
In market trading today gold rose for the 5, 357th straight day to yet another record close of $138, 595.42 the ounce.
Great article by Elizabeth Warren, Mep. Thanks
More on the CFPA:
http://www.gop.gov/general/09/10/13/the-consumer-financial-protection-agency
@wl – I left a comment a while back on Taibbi’s blog about Froman. I’ll have to email him and see if that had anything to do with his research. He’ll probably say it wasn’t. I have had an email exchange with him before. Anyway, here is the link to the comment…
My comment on Taibbi’s blog
He also mentions Michael Froman in that article. Froman is interesting because he has worked for former Goldman Sachs CEO Robert Rubin. He also knew Obama from working on the Harvard Law Review. According to Cockburn, Froman introduced Obama to Rubin. That’s interesting because that may have been the beginning of the Obama-GoldmanSachs connection. It’s no secret that GS was one of Obama’s biggest political campaign contributors early on.
[...]
Froman’s current position is Deputy Assistant to the President and Deputy National Security Adviser for International Economic Affairs. According to the “Who Runs Gov” website Froman hooked up with Obama back in 2004 when he was running for the Illinois Senate. I guess when you’ve been around that long you get paid off with two jobs instead of one.
“In 2004, Froman heard his long-lost buddy was planning to run for the Illinois Senate. Froman called up Obama and offered his help, which Obama accepted.
The offer of assistance would continue throughout the 2008 presidential campaign, as the Citigroup manager had a long list of New York finance friends who would be willing to part with some cash for the right cause. Froman helped to get Obama in the door, and even persuaded certain financiers, who had strong ties in the community, to support Obama.”
hey, as long as the big wig ivy leaguers have control of the corporate empire and rape us for everything why should we average peons worry about it. Its all good. They’re filthy rich off the sweat of the average working person. Just like our fathers had. Its hereditary or just the way its supposed to be.
“A controversial bill to create a vast and duplicative regulatory agency that would stifle business lending cleared its final committee hurdle this week and is heading to the House floor. The U.S. Chamber is calling on its grassroots network to get involved in stopping the bill.
More than 200 small businesses owners and local chamber representatives participated in an October 29 conference call to discuss the unintended consequences of the Consumer Financial Protection Act (CFPA), which was passed by the House Energy and Commerce Committee on October 23. The Chamber opposes the bill because it would create a monster regulator with ill-defined, sweeping powers and responsibilities and without the appropriate checks and balances.”
http://www.uschambermagazine.com/article/chamber-calls-on-members-to-oppose-cfpa-bill
The CFPA bill tootled by Warren is being called a monster which would cut off funding for independent business!
“The goal of the CFPA legislation is to address the flaws in the regulatory architecture that have inhibited effective responses to the substantive problems, rather than mandate specific new substantive consumer protection laws.”
This is about regulatory architecture not consumer protection of the middle class!
http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:OegqbVkGNtEJ:www.pewfr.org/admin/task_force_reports/files/CFPA-FINAL.pdf+Consumer+financial+protection+agency+OCC&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&lr=lang_en&client=safari
@Mep – Great article!
“the wages of the average fully-employed male have been flat since the 1970s.”
Dual income families have hidden the true situation, just like cheap Chinese imports. We’re losing the rat race.
Oh its on ZH as well
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/matt-taibbi-exposes-obamas-wall-streets-inner-circle-pays-particular-homage-robert-rubin
Wow, Tiabbi new must watch Obama inner circle
Rubin is puppetmaster full of Progressives, must watch Wall St connections
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4it-Fs8RLw
@Mep – America Without A Middle Class.
That’s what I’ve been saying is the Elite’s goal. It’s no coincidence that this is happening. The Middle Class was placated by cheap trinkets from China. So that they didn’t realize that inflation was rising and their standard of living was evaporating. Look at the cost of a College Education, for example.
The financial crisis, free trade, WTO are all part of it.
@Mep:
Warren is trying to sell this:
Consumer Financial Protection Agency (CFPA)
The middle class part was to draw us all in for the sell.
I don’t believe that new agency will bring roses and daffodils for the common man. The agencies that are meant to protect against fraud are actually the failsafe for the fraud. This one sounds like a different beast though.
Scrap that idea!
A fantastic piece by Elizabeth Warren: America Without A Middle Class.
.humanity isnt worth what we think it is
@DanV:
You never asked me what I thought it was worth!
Death pathway. You know it’s coming. An ideal UN citizen is a good producer and consumer. Does that mean anyone else is unsustainable? Someone remarked that designs for Disney towns only accommodated working people.
http://hotair.com/archives/2009/09/03/the-nhs-death-pathway/
Proof of the hatred and endurance rule…in the modern day one needs only to look at israel and its war of atricion…..
@ snoots….humanity isnt worth what we think it is…its always developing…in order to do so you need endurance…cause you will never completely overcome…overcome obstacles or lies…thus as I stated before endurance is more important than truth or victory.
@ Frank…..Hatred ……the only thing that lasts.
@ Frank Hope
It’s the “through a screen darkly” situation.
We have to use discernment. It takes time. And while we’re scurrying around looking for nuggets, the machine rolls on.
That link is from Alan Watt’s site. AW (who’s address seems to be on or adjacent to a NORAD facility) tries to give the big picture. He shot himself in the foot years ago by not crediting Glen Kealey as the source of his printed material. Glen Kealey borrowed liberally from other sources that he didn’t credit, so he’s not complaining. The most interesting sources were a couple of Freemasonic sci-fi writers who trotted out a lot of useful rarely exposed stuff mixed up with mole people and troglodytes.
@all
Because I do it with one small ship, I am called a terrorist. You do it with a whole fleet and are called an emperor.
- St. Augustine of Hippo (from City of God, 5th century)
@anything but green.again – thanks for the link. I’m reading it.
@ Depression Alert
“Pyongyang is a test zone for how people will react to this same thing (currency devaluation) in other countries. TPB, use human guinea pigs as labratory test subjects all the time.”
Ditto
Correction:
In a previous post I said Queen Victoria was 3/4 Rothschild. Incorrect. Her children were 3/4 Rothschild. Some if not all of the progeny had the same father and grandfather, thus the typical inbreeding defects. (Her stud might have faked his own death and continued the same breeding program; Greg Hallet talks about all that.) Albert had no children with his mistress; he was infertile.
http://greghallett.com/
Slowly they’re leaking info about themselves, although maintaining some of the Big Lies. They seem to be trying to convince the public that they have a divine right to rule (through vehicles such as “The DaVinci Code”, Sitchin’s phony works, talk shows and books pushing New Age alien stuff).
Curious how they’ve declassified the fact that Mussolini and Hitler were British Agents. It’ll be interesting how they spin it over the next few years.
Take a look at the Gold chart. It’s busted through 1220!!!
Go Team Gold!
@Frankly:
You don’t know pig latin, do you?
Do you want me to teach you?
Then you’d have anger and hope which about the way things are really. Anger would extinguish hope who would end up sobbing it out in a darkened room somewhere whilst anger went on pillaging.
I mean really. Hope should never have named her daughters that!
What about: Moon and Dew? Or Peace and Happiness?
@frances
You are too clever for your own good.
- your mother
@frances – I wonder what Obama will say in his Nobel Peace Prize acceptance speech.
I chose to run for the presidency at this moment in history because I believe deeply that we cannot solve the challenges of our time unless we solve them together – unless we perfect our union by understanding that we may have different stories, but we hold common hopes; that we may not look the same and we may not have come from the same place, but we all want to move in the same direction – towards a better future for our children and our grandchildren.
- Barack Obama
@Frank:
What if anger fights courage and leaves hope with only one daughter?
For: frances
Hope has two beautiful daughters. Their names are anger and courage; anger at the way things are, and courage to see that they do not remain the way they are.
St. Augustine of Hippo
the question is.
Why is gold going up. Probably a couple of reasons. dollar is seen are really becoming worthless. And dollar becoming worthless.
I still rememeber when greenspan accidently said the dollar will be worthless. And then had to come back and explain what he meant.
@FrankHope:
Sure enough!
@DanValley:
Faulkner has some good points in the speech about humans. He’s right about the writing bit: look at how Shakespeare is still so relevent today.
Is this all blahblah blahblah to you, DanV?
Pyongyang is a test zone for how people will react to this same thing (currency devaluation) in other countries. TPB, use human guinea pigs as labratory test subjects all the time.
@DanValley:
I liked the bit about “I decline to accept the end of man”. And it is not that easy to write noble speeches: you try it.
Personally, though, I am not that sappy. And Faulkner usually isn’t, but he said he would never write a speech and then did. We should stick to our convictions.
@frances
“Lord save us all form a hope tree that has lost the faculty of putting out blossoms.”
Thank you for the gift of this Twain quote. I will always treasure it.
@sklein
“That Muslims are the latest group to be chosen as scapegoats so they can be detained, dehumanized, demonized, and exterminated.”
I thought it was something like that. This implies that society has a need for such a group. Perhaps as a unifying force. A common enemy.
In US history we have had Indians, Blacks, Nazis, Communists. Then briefly Hispanic Drug Dealers. And most recently Muslims.
I guess society always needs some group to blame for its problems. And someone lower down on the totem pole to turn around and kick when we have been kicked by the person above us.
@ Frank Hope
On transferring economic power to China;
Kevin Rudd speaks fluent Chinese. That gives you a clue about the orchestration involved.
At a meeting of the RIFA in Sydney in 1938, they discussed moving industry off to China and thus GATT was rammed through a few decades later.
http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com/transcripts/Alan_Watt_Blurb_GreatBritainEmbryoOfWorldGovernment_May042007_M.html
There should be an audio archive of this show somewhere.
thanks!
@ Snoot…on faulkner….and jesus wept.
Faulkner on Acceptance of the Nobel Prize:
“I feel that this award was not made to me as a man, but to my work–a life’s work in the agony and sweat of the human spirit, not for glory and least of all for profit, but to create out of the materials of the human spirit something which did not exist before. So this award is only mine in trust. It will not be difficult to find a dedication for the money part of it commensurate with the purpose and significance of its origin. But I would like to do the same with the acclaim too, by using this moment as a pinnacle from which I might be listened to by the young men and women already dedicated to the same anguish and travail, among whom is already that one who will some day stand where I am standing.
Our tragedy today is a general and universal physical fear so long sustained by now that we can even bear it. There are no longer problems of the spirit. There is only one question: When will I be blown up? Because of this, the young man or woman writing today has forgotten the problems of the human heart in conflict with itself which alone can make good writing because only that is worth writing about, worth the agony and the sweat. He must learn them again. He must teach himself that the basest of all things is to be afraid: and, teaching himself that, forget it forever, leaving no room in his workshop for anything but the old verities and truths of the heart, the universal truths lacking which any story is ephemeral and doomed–love and honor and pity and pride and compassion and sacrifice. Until he does so, he labors under a curse. He writes not of love but of lust, of defeats in which nobody loses anything of value, and victories without hope and worst of all, without pity or compassion. His griefs grieve on no universal bones, leaving no scars. He writes not of the heart but of the glands.
Until he learns these things, he will write as though he stood among and watched the end of man. I decline to accept the end of man. It is easy enough to say that man is immortal because he will endure: that when the last ding-dong of doom has clanged and faded from the last worthless rock hanging tideless in the last red and dying evening, that even then there will still be one more sound: that of his puny inexhaustible voice, still talking. I refuse to accept this. I believe that man will not merely endure: he will prevail. He is immortal, not because he alone among creatures has an inexhaustible voice, but because he has a soul, a spirit capable of compassion and sacrifice and endurance. The poet’s, the writer’s, duty is to write about these things. It is his privilege to help man endure by lifting his heart, by reminding him of the courage and honor and hope and pride and compassion and pity and sacrifice which have been the glory of his past. The poet’s voice need not merely be the record of man, it can be one of the props, the pillars to help him endure and prevail.”
http://www.rjgeib.com/thoughts/faulkner/faulkner.html
@Frank:
Here’s Twain on hope:
“Lord save us all form a hope tree that has lost the faculty of putting out blossoms.”
Absolutely beautiful shot, Photoception!!! Thanks for the link!
@Frank Hope
@sklein – “Muslims are the new Jews, we just don’t know it yet.”
I’m curious. Please explain what you mean by this.
That Muslims are the latest group to be chosen as scapegoats so they can be detained, dehumanized, demonized, and exterminated.
Marc Faber on Bloomie yesterday
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ue82o6BVhVE
frances-
I saw it in a very old forest here in the northeast. Its so rare around here because the forests are patchy, surrounded by developments.
It was near this place: http://photoception.deviantart.com/art/Not-Ours-71391568
@frances – thanks for the chinese pearls of wisdom
I am long on hope. But that is a very long term investment strategy. I expect lots of volatility between now and 2012. The trend in the last few decades has been down, but I think we are close to reaching a bottom. There was a brief rally of hope in 2008 associated with Obama’s Presidential candidacy, but that has dissipated. There is lots of upward resistance at this time.
The good news is that unlike oil, there will never be peak hope – because “hope springs eternal”.
The rumor is that Hope will be featured in the new Paris fashion collections this Spring.
Hope which was once thought to be extinct, was spotted briefly by an expedition in the Amazon.
A recent space probe detected underground Hope in the polar caps of Mars, from which some scientists have concluded that there once was intelligent life on the Red Planet.
A new source of energy has been discovered by scientists in Russia. In an article in the Russian Journal of Science they describe how they have successfully fused Hope and Love, resulting in a large release of energy. They also claim to have created a micro black hole in the process although this has not been confirmed by other scientists.
I am a gold bug and a hope fool.
Taiwanese reenactment of Tiger Woods incident
@WL:
Good one. LOL!
@frances
Our cat Meoww Tse Tongue
Peter Schiff on cnbc today
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKyXnUQ8N9Y
@WL:
Well, who wrote that Chinese scrip for you then?
Here’s one:
http://bna.birds.cornell.edu/bna/species/552/galleries/photos/JJ_Akikiki_adult/image_preview
Here’s another:
http://bna.birds.cornell.edu/bna/species/312/galleries/photos/JJ_Anianiau-male/image_column
(from Alakai)
@frances
I dunno, I can’t read Chinese
GOLD WTF
WLism
@Photoception:
Yes. Could you tell me about when you saw the tanager? You should link some more of your photos!
I loved robins in England! On Kauai we saw rare birds in the Alakai swamp that are found nowhere else. I never have seen a tanager, though. Here is Florida we have Everglades birds with backward tread to their walk. They look primordial!
Perhaps a new world currency could be introduced via a pegging of all existing currencies. That way people would, at least for a while, be spending currency they are used to, and acceptance would be more forthcoming.
@frances
Is the bird in your avatar a Scarlet Tanager? I’ve only seen it once before, in the woods. They’re brilliant.
@Franky Hope:
Ellohay! Ohway arehay ouyay? Arkmay Waintray isway ymay erohay. Idday ouyay annelchay imhay orway arehay ouyay eadday?
@WL:
It said something about gold up ur anus? Hope you aren’t too uncomfortable!!!
here’s the link without comment
http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n06/john-mearsheimer/the-israel-lobby
The Israel Lobby
@ frances
愿在天王星附近的圆环由金子制成
Chinese proverb
Gravatar?
@Phil:
Did you retype J+ewish for the word in the article? It will get through if you do that I think.
@Frank:
Yes. Well. It was meant to be a proverb about a chicken carrying a sack of gold and clucking about riches and then being hit by a San Francisco street car and dying a painful and agonized death with the gold hanging about its neck.
The moral punch in Chinese was something like hang your hopes on that which one doesn’t have to lug about and protect from robbers, or something. But I’m not long hope anyway.
I guess you are (longhope) since your name is Hope.
@phil – thanks for the links. I’ll check them out.
There are 1 hour speeches by Kinsella and Hoppe that I think will change the way any sane minarchist (is that a contradiction?) thinks forever.
Hans Hoppe – Protection and the Market for Security
Stephen Kinsella – The Intellectual Property Racket
Despite the names, these are 2 powerful cases for anti-minarchy, and ultimately for anarchy.
http://www.lewrockwell.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2009-08-19_131_the_intellectual_property_racket.mp3
http://mises.org/MultiMedia/mp3/MU2009/MU2009_Hoppe_07-31-2009.mp3
PS@Frank
AU 1223.23
AG 19.43
http://www.xe.com has a RT currency pairs graph
Look under : Tools / Currency Charts
Set Time Scale & Period to 1 minute or tick-by-tick
@Frank
1.50300 /Euro to now 1.50771 /Euro for example.
Normally happens after market close, until Japan etc. open.
http://www.xe.com/
http://www.finviz.com/forex.ashx
Now 1.50785 /Euro
.. Gold price adjusting correspondingly = 1222.94
ronron: there are lots of idiots to go around
oh yes…. an abundance
@frances – “Gold is hanging in the neck” according to Google Translate
@phil – “the US$ always drops between markets.”
That’s interesting. What do you use to chart the dollar? I was going to say that it was because after New York closes, than the dominant traders are in the Far East. And that India and China are driving up the price of Gold.
@WL;
A wise Chinaman once told me this on the London Tube:
黃金是在脖子絞刑
@sklein – “Muslims are the new Jews, we just don’t know it yet.”
I’m curious. Please explain what you mean by this.
@WL:
He who owns the rules breaks the people– Snootism
@sklein …Why does gold take off in after hours trading?
It’s normally because the US$ always drops between markets.
Curious. That’s happened for the past few days.
It happens often .. my guess is you probably only looked recently because of “suddenly” watching the high gold price !
@sklein – 1970 is around the time I attribute as the start of this conspiracy by the Elite to sell out the American middle class. The catalyst was the pending death of Mao. That was the time when Kissinger (Rockefeller acolyte) secretly visited China and soon after Nixon struck a deal with Mao. This was “the other Great Game” – scrambling for control of a crumbling China. Most people here are already familiar with my articles on this subject, but I don’t know if you are. So here are the links again.
The International Banker’s China Syndrome
David Rockefeller, China, Free Trade, the WTO and the New World Order
Take a careful look at the two timelines in the two articles. They are similar, but I included slightly different events in the 2nd one.
Can you believe this shit…..wolf blitzer at the big board showing the police diagram of tiger woods crash…..please
@mike – thanks for the China link. In that link it doesn’t say $1200 specifically but does say they are leery of a bubble.
Joe, good link, fuckin’ hell north Korea, and I thought I had problems.
“Muslims are the new Jews, we just don’t know it yet.”
–a wise twenty something in the last 24 hours.
and here is the problem. your helping the planet money will be stolen. no doubt about it.
Why does gold take off in after hours trading? Curious. That’s happened for the past few days.
@Frank Hope
that is quite a quote from ZB.
You’re welcome. Some long term planners. It’s been hard to watch over these last 46+ years.
call it fredfreds if you must.
after all were all ronrons.
no frogs. no ronrons.
@california doctor – I agree that 1200 is not a ceiling. Gold looks like it wants to keep rising. It is like a juggernaut that keeps running into a brick wall. It smashed through one wall only to run into another wall behind it.
The first wall was 1000, then 1100, then 1200. Currently it has run into a wall at 1215. That’s where the enemy army has amassed and is putting up a heavy resistance. I expect Gold to smash through this line of infantry as well. I don’t know when it will finally run out of steam at this point.
Go Team Gold!
[Guilty as charged of mixing metaphors
]
we have ruined the best 3 swamps around stratford ontario canada. mike harris doubled the chlorine in our water over walkerton. this shit is bad. yes we are frigin up the planet. but the tax will be stolen. frickin cork suckers.
Spam buster again .. my post on “The Israel Lobby”
… is awaiting moderation !
New Book – The Israel Lobby
John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt
… A key pillar of the Lobby’s effectiveness is its influence in Congress, where Israel is virtually immune from criticism. This in itself is remarkable, because Congress rarely shies away from contentious issues. Where Israel is concerned, however, potential critics fall silent. One reason is that some key members are Christian Zionists like Dick Armey, who said in September 2002: ‘My No. 1 priority in foreign policy is to protect Israel.’ One might think that the No. 1 priority for any congressman would be to protect America. There are also Jewish senators and congressmen who work to ensure that US foreign policy supports Israel’s interests….
…
http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n06/john-mearsheimer/the-israel-lobby
Good read BTW !
the good thing is that we could have frogs back in stratford ontario canada.
@Mike/Liverpool … Holy Sh*t ! The Borad of RBS say they ALL RESIGN en MASS if they are not paid their “Bonuses in full!
LOL … my sister that bought UK Savings bonds when gold was 15000GBP ( against my advice ) is a friend of a new RBS board director. I wonder if she got her advice from him ? I guess he’ll be leaving soon !
They all threaten to quit on Mass? are they jokers or somthing? that would be the greatest blessing for the world to have leechers out of action for any amount of time.
the middle thinkers, think that if things become more local it is doable. we are going back to the 50′s kicking and screaming.
@Mike/Liverpool
They can move right into prison..
ODD-SPOT Breaking News
Shoe thrown at Iraqi shoe-thrower
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/12/02/2759180.htm
“Television reporter Muntazer al-Zaidi was in Paris to promote his campaign for the “victims of the US occupation in Iraq” when a fellow Iraqi critic [who defends US policy] turned the tables on him, shouting: “Here’s another shoe for you.” ”
A little bizarre confontation to say the least
@ Pteh & ronron
“The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits.”
– Albert Einstein
@Pteh. there are lots of idiots to go around.
Mike: Nice link… looks like a win-win situation for taxpayer…. it would take an idiot of epic proportions to screw this one up….
@everyone. thanks for the links on this thread. well done.
Holy Sh*t !
The Borad of RBS say they ALL RESIGN en MASS if they are not paid their “Bonuses in full!
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Business/RBS-Board-Threaten-To-Quit-Over-Governments-Proposed-Crackdown-On-Bonuses/Article/200912115485684?lpos=Business_Carousel_Region_0&lid=ARTICLE_15485684_RBS_Board_Threaten_To_Quit_Over_Governments_Proposed_Crackdown_On_Bonuses
Mike
World Trade Organization Risks Financial ‘China Syndrome’
on 10th Anniversary of the Battle in Seattle
Bankers’ scheme to re-open finance casino worldwide
Monday, November 30, 2009
by Greg Palast for Ring of Fire
http://tinyurl.com/yds8d2r
He who owns the gold makes the rules
Chinese Proverb
He who makes the rules owns the gold
US proverb
@WL. he had a prior condition so the insurance company shot him on sight.
Anyone know what exactly caused that devaluation in N Korea??
@WL. i heard the poor short man that finally got one to hit him in the mouth died in 11 minutes.
China buying gold with U.S. dollars just devalues there enormous reserve holdings of dollars further. — What is really to watch is how they get out of this trap by(what is currently being postured) – financing 3rd world countries to buy their exports – to pay back at a a later date.
@China gold
A rat who gnaws at a cat’s tail invites destruction.
Chinese Proverb
Dig the well before you are thirsty.
Chinese Proverb
Man who waits for roast duck to fly into mouth must wait very, very long time.
-Chinese proverb
It must really suck to have your money become worthless in 72 hours….especially when the government tells you that you’re worth $50 now…not a millionaire in local currency.
It will also suck to be a USD millionaire if the US gov’t defaults on debt payments.
@staceyherbert. new oligarks. same problem. gold. we live in interesting times.
@Mike – In your dreams that the PRC is halting on purchase of gold. They’re likely to be buying gold with USD and UKPounds.
I see no ceiling at 1200. The immediate curve is on a parabolic rise and has a bottom already in the high 1100′s. This curve is consistent with a constant depreciation of the USD, Euro, Yen, and UK Pound against the gold.
@staceyherbert. if iraq really did buy gold with us thankyou notes. i mean. bwa hahaha. how do you yanks like us now. bwa hahaha
@Joe:
Yeh. Kirk and Limbaugh look like two ferrets peeking up from their respective holes.
“…There is a cap of 100,000 won (£419) per family, which means that anyone with significant holdings of cash will have their savings wiped out…”
Gosh – I guess Gold owners breathe a sigh of relief when that news hit the public as they don’t risk loosing everything (if they can keep it secret that is).
A textbook example of why Gold, Silver or any other precious metal is so important to have.
Marc Faber says; says people should buy a little bit gold every month and become their own central bank.
China taking a break a 1200 is much to the delight of everyone else.
@Phil – here is the original Vanity Fair article on Erik Prick.
Tycoon, Contractor, Soldier, Spy
Frank
http://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/story.html?id=2293716
Mike
@all – Sorry I’ve been off line. I’ve written two articles in response to Obama’s Afghanistan speech.
This one is compendium of all of my comments regarding the speech right here on MaxKeiser.com.
Live response to Obama’s Afghanistan speech
This other one is me speaking as Mark Twain.
Mark Twain responds to President Obama on Afghanistan
I have seen some scoundrels in my day, but none smoother than Mr. Barack Obama – our President. It used to be when it was time to go to war, why we would just fire up the bands and make some big speeches about how our boys were going to whoop their boys and not make any bones about it. And we’d be sure to say that God was on our side, ’cause that made all the mothers feel better.
But nowadays I see you got this newfangled television thing and the President gets on and he’s not talking about blowing them to smithereens. He’s talking about how we’re doin’ it all for their own sakes. Well come to think of it, I heard much the same speech when they were sending the boys to the Philippines to kill the natives over there.
@phill
Awesome link,
I wonder how Erik’s god lovin’, govt. hating good old boys feel about their rebel leader being a double agent for the MAN?
Stacy: sorry for the off-topic excursion.
I’d like to have your (and Max’s) take on that:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiasso_financial_smuggling_case
It is almost 300 billion US$ in two different attempts of Bond Smuggling!!
Not exactly fresh news, though, the last arrest was in september.
There is one thing that is really critical !!
Among the two there was 55 years old Akihiko Yamaguchi is part of Tokyio Toshiro Muto (BoJ vice-governor) who resigned in the aftermath of the scandal.
@sklein – that is quite a quote from ZB. He is basically admitting the agenda of the David Rockefeller led wing of the Elite in open public. I don’t think I’ve ever seen this quote before, but it reflects perfectly what I think is happening in the world today. Thanks for sharing.
I dont think North Korea really has anything resembling an ‘economy’ this place is just one huge prison camp.
YouTube – Welcome to North Korea by Peter Tetteroo and Raymond Feddema / Documentary Educational Video http://bit.ly/fOlw
@frances
Rush limbo hahah – what an awkward set up with the chairs
Nothing to see here, move along now.. those SDRs aren’t the ones you are looking for…
@ Phil – He’s going to teach in HS? That creep does not belong around kids! Plenty of actual teachers are out of work now. Price should leave the country and stay gone.
Re: the CIA; that’s interesting. So now our CIA needs to have a private militia working alongside it? That’s why we’re being lied to about Blackwater/Xe’s presence in Pakistan–because they ARE there, only they’re considered as covert as the CIA and JSOC:
http://rupeenews.com/2009/11/26/blackwater-drone-attacks-not-cia-but-general-mcchrystals-jsoc-us-army/
This country has really gone to hell. Bush/Cheney did a lot of it, but Obama is allowing this BS to continue.
Why the fuss about Iraq. I mean it is a sovereign state is it not.
If on the other hand a advanced Europeon state such as Norway or even Ireland were to convert its pension fund to gold bullion that would be acceptable, right.
@stacy
Baltimore Jihads is at 109% . Will you be filming soon?
VF exclusive: Blackwater’s Erik Prince to step down, reveals CIA role
http://rawstory.com/2009/12/blackwaters-prince-cia-role/
Gold bubble not popping?!?!
“Today we are again witnessing the emergence of transnational elites … [Whose] ties cut across national boundaries …It is likely that before long the social elites of most of the more advanced countries will be highly internationalist or globalist in spirit and outlook … The nation-state is gradually yielding its sovereignty… Further progress will require greater American sacrifices. More intensive efforts to shape a new world monetary structure will have to be undertaken, with some consequent risk to the present relatively favorable American position.”
–Between Two Ages (1970)
— Zbignew Brzezinsk
Selective Astroids huh
Mep! Be brave: it’s only one minute of torture!
Is £419 per family peanuts for North Koreans? (I know nothing about the size of their economy or what the median income is there.)
@ frances – I can’t look at it.
@All:
Could the same thing–cash banned–occur in the western countries? Didn’t Stacy mention a card instead of cash? Is this prescient?
@Mep:
This will definately make you angry!
http://www.page2live.com/2009/12/02/capt-kirk-to-rush-limbaugh-ill-beam-your-health-care-up/
@ North Korea . . . holy crap!!! Those poor freaking people. They can’t make any transactions for a week and they’re going to have their savings wiped out if they have more cash than the cap? Wow.
I dont know much about North Korea thier financial system but why is this story not such a big deal? Was their system already tiny and irrelevant that 100:1 devaluation and no cash purchases literally make no difference or what?
Otherwise isnt it major news? shouldnt they be rioting.
@Mike – China not buying Gold @ more than $1200
Do you have a link for that?
China not buying Gold @ more than $1200……..They say.
Mike
Hi Stacy
Mike