Comments on: [OTE30] On the Edge with Max Keiser . . . and Sarel Oberholster http://maxkeiser.com/2009/12/04/ote30-on-the-edge-with-max-keiser-and-sarel-oberholster/ Financial War Reports Thu, 24 May 2012 09:07:43 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Ismael Ken http://maxkeiser.com/2009/12/04/ote30-on-the-edge-with-max-keiser-and-sarel-oberholster/#comment-57923 Ismael Ken Mon, 07 Dec 2009 22:01:58 +0000 http://maxkeiser.com/?p=3959#comment-57923 Another good show. Aside from that, I am having some difficulties reconciling some of your views in on the edge, keiser report and truth about markets. If you can get to this during the truth about comments please do. You have mentioned that Health care is something that should be government run, while other things such as personal computers should not. I am unclear as to the reasoning for this. I understand France has a quality health care system...however, I am not sure of the cost. But if you could specifically address the following: 1) If a service is "free" and provided by the Gov., what is to prevent folks from "overusing" this service? Then this would eventually drive up cost no? If folks have already paid taxes for health care, would they not go for every sniffle? What is the definition of health care then, would I be able to get any neew treatment for "free?" 2) What would be the incentive to provide quality care if they are not competing with others? I think that is a big problem today. Insurance companies are limiting our choices. I recall as a kid the doctor coming to the house to treat me for Hepatitis b and he was paid directly that night by my parents (in Tunisia in 1980 where I was born). You have mentioned economies of scale for cost savings, but if we would, as the french say do a "demonstration par l'absurde" or take this to its logical conclusion, why should the government not provide food, clothes, computers, etc...for this very same reason? I think because choice and competition is always good. Is not the problem that the government is corrupt along with big business? At any rate, I assure you that my question is to get a better idea of your reasoning behind this thinking. I agree with much what you and Stacy say and truly enjoy the entertainment value. I just can not reconcile this particular view. Would things be ok if the powere of the FED were in treasury for example? I am also an internal government auditor et mon dieu can I tell you that I have rarely seen a government program done well or at a savings. ok...hope you can take the time to educate me on this. Pax e Caritas. Another good show. Aside from that, I am having some difficulties reconciling some of your views in on the edge, keiser report and truth about markets. If you can get to this during the truth about comments please do.

You have mentioned that Health care is something that should be government run, while other things such as personal computers should not. I am unclear as to the reasoning for this. I understand France has a quality health care system…however, I am not sure of the cost. But if you could specifically address the following:

1) If a service is “free” and provided by the Gov., what is to prevent folks from “overusing” this service? Then this would eventually drive up cost no? If folks have already paid taxes for health care, would they not go for every sniffle? What is the definition of health care then, would I be able to get any neew treatment for “free?”

2) What would be the incentive to provide quality care if they are not competing with others? I think that is a big problem today. Insurance companies are limiting our choices. I recall as a kid the doctor coming to the house to treat me for Hepatitis b and he was paid directly that night by my parents (in Tunisia in 1980 where I was born).

You have mentioned economies of scale for cost savings, but if we would, as the french say do a “demonstration par l’absurde” or take this to its logical conclusion, why should the government not provide food, clothes, computers, etc…for this very same reason? I think because choice and competition is always good. Is not the problem that the government is corrupt along with big business?

At any rate, I assure you that my question is to get a better idea of your reasoning behind this thinking. I agree with much what you and Stacy say and truly enjoy the entertainment value. I just can not reconcile this particular view. Would things be ok if the powere of the FED were in treasury for example? I am also an internal government auditor et mon dieu can I tell you that I have rarely seen a government program done well or at a savings.

ok…hope you can take the time to educate me on this. Pax e Caritas.

]]> By: Eric Zimmerer http://maxkeiser.com/2009/12/04/ote30-on-the-edge-with-max-keiser-and-sarel-oberholster/#comment-57116 Eric Zimmerer Sun, 06 Dec 2009 00:18:37 +0000 http://maxkeiser.com/?p=3959#comment-57116 Sarel Oberholster is misinformed on two KEY facts: 1) When banks loan money, they create it from nothing. They are not using someone's savings when they make a loan. 2) The Federal Reserve is a PRIVATE CORPORATION. The power to print money was delegated to this PRIVATE CORPORATION by Congress in 1913. Since then the FED has been giving orders, not taking them. Since Sarel hasn't figured these two things out, it is hard to take him seriously on anything else he says. Sarel Oberholster is misinformed on two KEY facts:
1) When banks loan money, they create it from nothing. They are not using someone’s savings when they make a loan.

2) The Federal Reserve is a PRIVATE CORPORATION. The power to print money was delegated to this PRIVATE CORPORATION by Congress in 1913. Since then the FED has been giving orders, not taking them.

Since Sarel hasn’t figured these two things out, it is hard to take him seriously on anything else he says.

]]> By: hamster cheese http://maxkeiser.com/2009/12/04/ote30-on-the-edge-with-max-keiser-and-sarel-oberholster/#comment-57114 hamster cheese Sun, 06 Dec 2009 00:15:56 +0000 http://maxkeiser.com/?p=3959#comment-57114 Max, thanks for introducing all of these personalities on your show. You are a great resource for finding rational thinking people in this relm. Max, thanks for introducing all of these personalities on your show. You are a great resource for finding rational thinking people in this relm.

]]> By: jack frost http://maxkeiser.com/2009/12/04/ote30-on-the-edge-with-max-keiser-and-sarel-oberholster/#comment-57088 jack frost Sat, 05 Dec 2009 20:48:59 +0000 http://maxkeiser.com/?p=3959#comment-57088 speaking of Bernanke, here is a clip off of CSPAN showing Jim Bunning ripping Bernanke a new one. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQs0NVrWTt0 speaking of Bernanke, here is a clip off of CSPAN showing Jim Bunning ripping Bernanke a new one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQs0NVrWTt0

]]> By: Lloyd http://maxkeiser.com/2009/12/04/ote30-on-the-edge-with-max-keiser-and-sarel-oberholster/#comment-56947 Lloyd Sat, 05 Dec 2009 11:57:11 +0000 http://maxkeiser.com/?p=3959#comment-56947 Obama should sell his war escalation as economic stimulus. That would neutralize 'progressive' opposition to his war. On the one hand, war is bad ... on the other hand, as 'progressives' know, massive gov't spending is good. Obama should sell his war escalation as economic stimulus. That would neutralize ‘progressive’ opposition to his war. On the one hand, war is bad … on the other hand, as ‘progressives’ know, massive gov’t spending is good.

]]> By: Bonn http://maxkeiser.com/2009/12/04/ote30-on-the-edge-with-max-keiser-and-sarel-oberholster/#comment-56912 Bonn Sat, 05 Dec 2009 09:38:09 +0000 http://maxkeiser.com/?p=3959#comment-56912 Oh god here we go again I wish the Voting was limited to ages B/W 28 and 58 all over the world plus ya can only serve the military if you are in this age bracket and bollocks to the chain of command If ya have an opnion ya should be allowed to voice it Ooo Marc Fabers words are comming true Hitler's looking more and more like a Saint compared to these lunatics Oh god here we go again
I wish the Voting was limited to ages B/W 28 and 58 all over the world plus ya can only serve the military if you are in this age bracket
and bollocks to the chain of command
If ya have an opnion ya should be allowed to voice it
Ooo Marc Fabers words are comming true
Hitler’s looking more and more like a Saint compared to these lunatics

]]> By: Ptah http://maxkeiser.com/2009/12/04/ote30-on-the-edge-with-max-keiser-and-sarel-oberholster/#comment-56911 Ptah Sat, 05 Dec 2009 09:37:44 +0000 http://maxkeiser.com/?p=3959#comment-56911 Dedo: Why is it so inherent, that folk lean on others for their destiny,..hummmf,..always bothered me,..anyone care to explain? I would say it is because it is economical to do so. Dedo: Why is it so inherent, that folk lean on others for their destiny,..hummmf,..always bothered me,..anyone care to explain?

I would say it is because it is economical to do so.

]]> By: Bonn http://maxkeiser.com/2009/12/04/ote30-on-the-edge-with-max-keiser-and-sarel-oberholster/#comment-56910 Bonn Sat, 05 Dec 2009 09:27:49 +0000 http://maxkeiser.com/?p=3959#comment-56910 Chuckle useless metal ;-) used only in a Mc Laren F1 and around necks LOL zzzeee Elegant Noose RODFL ;-) Chuckle useless metal ;-) used only in a Mc Laren F1 and around necks LOL zzzeee Elegant Noose RODFL ;-)

]]> By: Bonn http://maxkeiser.com/2009/12/04/ote30-on-the-edge-with-max-keiser-and-sarel-oberholster/#comment-56909 Bonn Sat, 05 Dec 2009 09:13:43 +0000 http://maxkeiser.com/?p=3959#comment-56909 Hey what happened to Gold ? Hey what happened to Gold ?

]]> By: stacyherbert http://maxkeiser.com/2009/12/04/ote30-on-the-edge-with-max-keiser-and-sarel-oberholster/#comment-56907 stacyherbert Sat, 05 Dec 2009 08:51:05 +0000 http://maxkeiser.com/?p=3959#comment-56907 @Mike/Liverpool - interesting re: BullionVault . . . I was recently wondering if something like that would happen if your only pool of buyers/sellers are mostly strong hands . . . will check into it @Mike/Liverpool – interesting re: BullionVault . . . I was recently wondering if something like that would happen if your only pool of buyers/sellers are mostly strong hands . . . will check into it

]]> By: L http://maxkeiser.com/2009/12/04/ote30-on-the-edge-with-max-keiser-and-sarel-oberholster/#comment-56906 L Sat, 05 Dec 2009 08:35:23 +0000 http://maxkeiser.com/?p=3959#comment-56906 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsOAkZgDXvQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsOAkZgDXvQ

]]> By: L http://maxkeiser.com/2009/12/04/ote30-on-the-edge-with-max-keiser-and-sarel-oberholster/#comment-56905 L Sat, 05 Dec 2009 08:34:16 +0000 http://maxkeiser.com/?p=3959#comment-56905 @youri ...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsOAkZgDXvQ england leid ,or ' England song ' a ww1 song about attacking England but adopted for ww 2 for propaganda purposes , dedicated to my my favourite people on this site : ' riotsmurph ; 'Jim ' Last of the anti moderns ' and 'supergeek ' ! . Thankyou ! @youri …http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsOAkZgDXvQ england leid ,or ‘ England song ‘ a ww1 song about attacking England but adopted for ww 2 for propaganda purposes , dedicated to my my favourite people on this site : ‘ riotsmurph ; ‘Jim ‘ Last of the anti moderns ‘ and ‘supergeek ‘ ! . Thankyou !

]]> By: L http://maxkeiser.com/2009/12/04/ote30-on-the-edge-with-max-keiser-and-sarel-oberholster/#comment-56904 L Sat, 05 Dec 2009 07:28:56 +0000 http://maxkeiser.com/?p=3959#comment-56904 & youri ! the esoteric thing in 3rd reich is very interesting , Ahnenerbe etc ., i have many documents from this period , many years ago i found a box of documents in flea market in Berlin [1990 ] from a golf club in southern germany and eastern europe from years 1927 - 1945 i had no idea that golf was such a popular sport in the 3rd Reich .]? where ever the nazis went they built golf courses and golf clubs [it was part of making making or building an egalitarian society ,absolutely true [ interestingly you got extra points deducted if your golf ball landed in a ' bomb crater' etc ] third Reichs fascination with golf is very little know aspect of the history of third reich, i have often thought that the subject of 'golf in the third reich 'would be a great subject for a book , maxs ' idea of 'golf shirted nazis ' in washington is actually very close to the truth . i sold the documents many years ago but wish i had kept them . & youri ! the esoteric thing in 3rd reich is very interesting , Ahnenerbe etc ., i have many documents from this period , many years ago i found a box of documents in flea market in Berlin [1990 ] from a golf club in southern germany and eastern europe from years 1927 – 1945 i had no idea that golf was such a popular sport in the 3rd Reich .]? where ever the nazis went they built golf courses and golf clubs [it was part of making making or building an egalitarian society ,absolutely true [ interestingly you got extra points deducted if your golf ball landed in a ' bomb crater' etc ] third Reichs fascination with golf is very little know aspect of the history of third reich, i have often thought that the subject of ‘golf in the third reich ‘would be a great subject for a book , maxs ‘ idea of ‘golf shirted nazis ‘ in washington is actually very close to the truth . i sold the documents many years ago but wish i had kept them .

]]> By: L http://maxkeiser.com/2009/12/04/ote30-on-the-edge-with-max-keiser-and-sarel-oberholster/#comment-56902 L Sat, 05 Dec 2009 07:08:52 +0000 http://maxkeiser.com/?p=3959#comment-56902 Heil ,max @ Stacy ! Heil ,max @ Stacy !

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