somthing stinks -
The UN climate talks in Copenhagen descended into acrimony overnight after the leaking of a draft “Copenhagen Agreement” that would require developing countries to take on targets as the world cut emissions in half by 2050.
Drafted by the Danish Government after talks with the so-called “circle of commitment”, including Australian Prime Minister Kevin Rudd, the document said global emissions should peak by the end of next decade but did not include any emissions targets for 2020 or specific proposals for the creation of a green fund to help the most vulnerable. Control of climate change finance would be passed to the World Bank.
Just when you thought we were rid of one criminal.
Pimco Hires Former Bank Bailout Chief Kashkari in Equities Push.
“Kashkari will join on Dec. 14 and work in Pimco’s headquarters in California. He will be responsible for new product development and client management.”
I though belly button lint was the real Afghan in terms of smoking..
Why would you store your money so it would become worth less (I assume there are transaction fees). Germany has boatloads of privately owned gold, even gold vending machines. Ebay shows a small drop in price.
@Stacy
I read a story about a greek guy that was checking out a (vulcanic) eruption..He and his men ended up sintered by a pyroclastic avalance..
Was helping a friend with the restructuring of her mortgage. The salesmen now ask flat or hourly fees instead of taking comission. That is until you read the fine print and it says only no comission in the first year. Hourly fee 175 Euro (est. 24 hours)or lump sum 4200 Euro. Not a bad job if you can get it..key concepts are closed market and price fixing.
sorry in advance if I’m wrong but I would bet a dime that’s the case ron ron.
I even heard Stacey defending the millions Gore made out of it. You see, most well-meaning ecologists become confused thinking that the “climate change”(sic) agenda has anything ecological when it’s all political. The “common interest” required to create a calculated “unique response”.
@nick
You could be right – they seem to be about to suck the remaining cash of the planet into their trasuries
During the last great depression the USA was the major surplus country (Like China is today) yet the States suffered the biggest fall – The British empire only declined slightly relatively to America (The British could be compared to the USA today)
@frances
so this is really pointing out to a possible date (next year) where everything crashes? – better to have your money somewhere safe then where it can be sucked away?
Lee Eung Baek, head of Bank of Korea’s reserve-management department claims that central banks just buy gold and don’t sell it for a profit even if prices rise. That there is no cash return and “There’s an illusion in gold”.
A couple obvious issues with his views are the fact that buyers who don’t/won’t sell are a bullish indicator.
And, why wouldn’t a central bank be able to sell a portion of their gold reserves later at a profit if they wanted to? He’s implying that they are bound to follow past practices which simply isn’t true.
It’s so illogical it’s as if Jon Nadler wrote it.
If he’s going to discount concerns about significant monetary debasement he’d better have more to bring to the table than ‘Slim Chance’. If that were the case then Gold wouldn’t be at the price it’s at currently.
well the comme party might be in a bit of trouble which is why they are spending there cash now to keep the show going…….. for now
I guess the captains of Industry in the states of the 1930s new the peasants would not rebel so they kept their cash in treusuries and off shore gold
@Joe:
I think the basel mandates are going to kill capital investment in 2010. So in a deflationary enviro, people are looking to hold their money safe-like. US banks aren’t a good bet. I don’t see gold crashing below 850 until the IMF finishes setting up their sdr-jacks game. And the euro/dollar/pound/krona/yen/loonie basket will set those currencies until the time comes to crash out that basket. Sdr weighting will be an indication of the way things are going: that should be re-weighted sometimes in mid 2010. Right now it is the euro/dollar/yen/pound. The currencies outside the fence are going to be toasted first.
Did you read Leap 2020? They have consistently pointed to the sovereign default dominos, calling it geopolitical dislocation: http://www.leap2020.eu/English_r25.html
When everything falls down, one will see the skeleton remaining of the new international financial system. It is in place, with regulatory agencies set to rule after the collapse. I think the sdr-bond game is the kicker for the power vector.
$11.6 million in stock was purchased by insiders, while a whopping $957 million was sold. And somehow pundits are still spinning this mass orchestrated sell into the bid by those in the know as a bull market.
@Dork:
I can’t believe how screwed up central banks make their countries. It is incredible. And the regulatory agencies just do their job…just do their job. Ya think someone would scratch their head and say, Huh?
@danialS
it strikes me we have a full scale assult on the price of gold from the vasel states – It may be the last throw of the dice
- you never know the gamblers may win again
All this stuff happened after a meeting with the Japs last week!
@Off-topic – email privacy. If you’re wondering how hard it is to get your emails or other info from ISPs, telephone network providers, etc., check out this page: http://cryptome.org/0001/yahoo-cryptome.htm
This is interesting stuff!
Sprint Nextel provided law enforcement agencies with its customers’ (GPS) location information over 8 million times between September 2008 and October 2009. This massive disclosure of sensitive customer information was made possible due to the roll-out by Sprint of a new, special web portal for law enforcement officers.
This Post came on Zero Hedge by Anonymous -Could not agree with his assessments more.
on Tue, 12/08/2009 – 16:52
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Bingo. The system broke…they strung together a whole year for cashing out and bonuses…then it’s off to the bunkers and the whole thing burns.
I figure a lot of the banksters had a lot of property and bonds to get rid of, plus needed time to make exit plans.
All exit plans should now be in place.
Only question is, do they hand off the whole mess to govts/chumps/taxpayers in an orgasmic spasm or do some try to stay private and keep on milking? I bet it’s the parlor conversation of the century in certain steam rooms.
“THE CIA is to be given broad access to the bank records of millions of Britons under a European Union plan to fight terrorism.
The Brussels agreement, which will come into force in two months’ time, requires the 27 EU member states to grant requests for banking information made by the United States under its terrorist finance tracking programme.
In a little noticed information note released last week, the EU said it had agreed that Europeans would be compelled to release the information to the CIA “as a matter of urgency”. The records will be kept in a US database for five years before being deleted.
Critics say the system is “lopsided” because there is no reciprocal arrangement under which the UK authorities can easily access the bank accounts of US citizens in America.”
Remember when it was leaked, that Blair and his cronies secretly set an agenda to increase immigration for the UK, well, read below,..frickin’ priceless!!
“Putting it another way, with its 2003 footprint of 5.6 gha/cap a sustainable population would be only 17 million people. This means that the UK has currently 43 million more citizens than can be sustained in the long term http://www.ukcolumn.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/HowManyPeople.pdf
What’s the mantra ! 1,2,and a 3,. “Problem, Reaction, Solution” . ; )
Developing countries react furiously to leaked draft agreement that would hand more power to rich nations, sideline the UN’s
negotiating role and abandon the Kyoto protocol
@Stacy – In case you missed it in the last 200 plus responses to your last posting, I bring to You Bush Days of Christmas –
• In the past administration George Bush gave to me –
TSA agents groping,
FISA search for snooping,
Torture for detainees,
Florida hijacked voting,
Patriot Act against me,
Phone calls for spying,
Wall Street bailout billions,
PRIVATE MERCANARIESSSSSSSS,
4th amendments gone,
Unlimited detention,
Wars to escalate,
And some bombs for the Iraqis.
CHICAGO—Looming behind the 17 million jobless tsunami hitting the country is another disaster: over $180 billion in accumulated budget deficits set to devastate state governments, according to a new study by the Pew Center for the States.
The Economic Policy Institute (EPI) says in addition, city and town governments are expected to have deficits of $100 billion over the next two years.
This threatens a calamity like the one playing out in California. Many states face horrendous cuts to education, health care, mass transit and other human service programs, skyrocketing taxes and fees that will severely slow any economic recovery … //
The debt burdened west will self-destruct under its own weight….
Some two decades ago, it was decided by the global financial elites that the framework for the global economy shall consist of:
1) A global derivative-based financial system, controlled by the US Federal Reserve Bank and its associate global banks in the developed countries.
2) The re-location from the West to the East in the production of goods, principally to China and India to “feed” the developed economies.
The entire system was built on a simple principle, that of a FED-controlled global reserve currency which will be the engine for growth for the global economy. It is essentially an imperialist economic principle.
Zero Hedge: Huge Japanese GDP Miss: 1.3% Revised Versus 4.8% Preliminary, 2.8% Consensus.
And so Goldman will be forced to start revising its forecasts ever lower. Revised GDP came out at 1.3% versus preliminary annualized numbers of 4.8%. Now that’s a miss that would make even the BLS and the D.C. propaganda bureau blush. Expectations were for 2.8% GDP.
Bloomberg: Japan’s Economy Grows Less-Than-Estimated 1.3% as Capital Spending Slides http://tinyurl.com/yhsvfkz
@chris
I also thought of a possible alternative – possibly un-subsidizing oil would let the public bear the burden of the true cost – making renewable alternatives more cost effective. If it is produced by economies of scale then that would be a viable solution. — Just a thought.
Pay day for the gangsters at Blood & Gore. Strange how silent the media is. about the nice fat commissions these two crooks will be receiving from all these carbone credit indulgences. Next step ? If you cannot pay your carbone credits they cut your lungs out.
The photo of the drone in Afghanistan has raised questions about why the United States would be operating a stealth unmanned aircraft in a country where insurgents have no radar systems, prompting speculation Washington was using the drones for possible spying missions in neighboring Iran or Pakistan.
Yeah lol, the case of “Killing the useless marathon man” cause they breath too much. No more jogging obesity is good ( as long as they are not heavy breathers.)
this is what I wrote to my senator who just emailed me email pushing insurance company bailout healthcare.
I don’t care if you make it so I have to pay 50 dollars a month. I can’t afford any mandatory health care. If I die just bury me where I fall. To hell with the insurance companys and government mandatory health care. Let goldman sachs pay for it. They stole all our money and jobs anyway.
For all of you Beatles fans out there, I’ve been listening to a fantastic interview with John Lennon from 1970. Altogether it’s about 2-1/2 hours long.
Stacy:
It is a book review, but I thought Fish glanced over her resignation as governor a little to easily. THAT is the most telling part of the book about ‘who Sarah Palin is to presenting herself to be’. How come she is still a viable candidate?
She is being rewarded, and the Fish essay was just one of those perks of doing ‘a good job’ for the big boys.
I did not realize how easy they made this program to profiteer by,,,
Head of California’s Cap and Trade Offsets Program: Cap and Trade Won’t Work for Climate, It’s a Scam
Specifically, they point out that:
* Cap and trade was tried in Europe, but ended up raising energy prices, creating volatility, produced few greenhouse gas reductions, but made billions for the financial players
* Even the guy who invented the cap and trade concept doesn’t think it will work in regards to climate change (see this and this)
* Carbon offsets – which are part of the cap and trade plan – increase pollution
* One reason that offsets lead to more pollution is that investors fight to keep toxic chemicals legal, so they can make more money off of trading the offsets
* Like subprime mortgages and other creative financial instruments which brought us the economic crisis, carbon offsets lack integrity and don’t work (see this)
IPCC Lead Author: ‘We will continue to create and tell new stories about climate change and mobilize them in support of our projects.’
Dr. Richard Lindzen notes some inconvenient quotes from Michael Hulme’s book, Why We Disagree About Climate Change:
“The idea of climate change should be seen as an intellectual resource around which our collective and personal identities and projects can form and take shape. We need to ask not what we can do for climate change, but to ask what climate change can do for us.
……
Because the idea of climate change is so plastic, it can be deployed across many of our human projects and can serve many of our psychological, ethical, and spiritual needs.
…….
We will continue to create and tell new stories about climate change and mobilize them in support of our projects.
…….
These myths transcend the scientific categories of ‘true’ and ‘false’” .
And the alarmists tell us they have no political agenda, and that their only desire is to turn down the earth’s thermostat a bit? Please.
Whenever you scratch around, you find the same old game, or some weird blanks.
Ron Paul’s wife is Eastern Star, which means he’s at least third generation and his wife was chosen for him. His daughter is a Rainbow Girl. He would have been worked over heavily from a very young age. To be chosen as the False Hope for the Masses, he would be very high up the ladder and have a strong pedigree, grafted to the main trunk a long time ago.
Good entertainment, though. Many of the links here are to “Freedom Watch”– sad how people’s instincts have been so blunted that they can’t see all the shows as just that–shows, and military ops in fact; the fake heroes are military weapons just as surely as the physical kinds are, but ultimately far more lethal.
@anything
Ron Paul was groomed from an early age to be a fake leader? He was early on working in the fields of obstetrics/gynecology. His political career wasn’t some Manchurian candidate scheme. Im sorry but Im not buying into any of that for one second
No Ron Paul has a problem with is hands …broken or somtin. Ron Paul comes from a dairy farm and is one of the true ol Americans, hard working and using his sane mind.
Youri, I think the whole ‘dairy-farmer’ thingy is a mythology. Perhaps you are referring to the goose that laid the golden egg, with Ron Paul being the Goose?
Ex-Fed chief Paul Volcker’s ‘telling’ words on derivatives industry
Paul Volcker, the chairman of President Obama’s Economic Recovery Advisory Board, stunned a business conference in Sussex yesterday, saying there is “little evidence innovation in financial markets has had a visible effect on the productivities of the economy”.
By Louise Armitstead
Published: 9:41PM GMT 08 Dec 2009
The former US Federal Reserve chairman told an audience that included some of the world’s most senior financiers that their industry’s “single most important” contribution in the last 25 years has been automatic telling machines, which he said had at least proved “useful”.
Echoing FSA chairman Lord Turner’s comments that banks are “socially useless”, Mr Volcker told delegates who had been discussing how to rebuild the financial system to “wake up”. He said credit default swaps and collateralised debt obligations had taken the economy “right to the brink of disaster” and added that the economy had grown at “greater rates of speed” during the 1960s without such products.
When one stunned audience member suggested that Mr Volcker did not really mean bond markets and securitisations had contributed “nothing at all”, he replied: “You can innovate as much as you like, but do it within a structure that doesn’t put the whole economy at risk.”
He said he agreed with George Soros, the billionaire investor, who said investment banks must stick to serving clients and “proprietary trading should be pushed out of investment banks and to hedge funds where they belong”.
Mr Volcker argued that banks did have a vital role to play as holders of deposits and providers of credit. This importance meant it was correct that they should be “regulated on one side and protected on the other”. He said riskier financial activities should be limited to hedge funds to whom society could say: “If you fail, fail. I’m not going to help you. Your stock is gone, creditors are at risk, but no one else is affected.”
I’m gonna tell you a story. It’s about what makes a lie happen.
You have got to suck up all the spit in your mouth and just let it rip straight out onto the dust that’s a-layin about your feet. That’s the start of a lie: spit an dust. Right up against the tongue it begins to form: eating its way into the world of words to land, coy-like, with all the other stories that’s waiting to be sold.
Lies just one of those stories. Laying around in the dust with its own pool of spit, waiting for someone to take notice of it. Seems sometimes it resembles the dust so much that it seems unlikely it will get a notice.
But up comes the salesman. He’s a’wearing long his sinews like a stringed-instrument ready to twang. He’s looking to turn a profit on words, and he’s hoping to find just the right combination of spit-dust to take home the bacon. And, Yes Sir, he finds that one left last Sunday between the combine and the collard patch: good and ready-to-go-to the market. He bundles the lie up like a wet fish in a wad of paper and sells if for a quarter or a dollar, depending.
You might be reading a lie right now. You never can really tell.
All senators and congressmen are actors performing their parts, and on very short leashes. They generally have skeletons in the closet, and are thus subject to blackmail. When things go wrong, there will be broken bones/careers, jail sentences, or plain old Wellstoning.
Washington and his English opponent (General Cornwallis) were wont to meet in one or the other’s tent for a nice cup of Freemasonic tea after a days “battle”. Things haven’t changed.
Well, the official story is a smokescreen, but slowly a clearer picture is being given to us. Bradford-Smith is, sorry to say, another gatekeeper. Doesn’t mean that gatekeeper info is not worth reading. That’s about all we’re given.
All the royals are Rothschilds. And yes, they do kill their own. And they are about as “Yewish” as the average Catholic is a trained “Yesuit” assassin. Organized religions are created by the same elite. Their own religion is more akin to Hinduism and Kabalah. They’re very into reincarnation but not the kind they sell to the masses. It’s a high-tech effort–life sciences, eugenics, etc. Why is a can-nighthood such a sought-after reward by all the low-life busy bees?
I’m in California. I’m going to try to stick it out here with cows, goats, and chickens, but when we are trading shotgun shells for roasted lizards, I’m going to be looking for a sponsor for NZ or OZZ.
I’ll labor and tell you Mad Max stories of the Great Depression, Santa Barbara chapter.
Joe. Can no honest person make it to washington at all?
I mean, I hear you on the psy ops cable programming. Watch 30 Rock for a few episodes with the realization that it’s owned by General Electric. Anyone with a liberal education and a newshound streak can see it.
But regarding all the anti federal reserve rogues, we sometimes see on TV, do yo really have a ton of data to suggest that Ron Paul is really has his hand in the shadow-bank cookie jar?
I understand that Fox News is trying to position itself to appeal to the War Mongering rednecks of the USA, while coddling intellectual libertarians at the same time.
But I don’t think that supports an argument which suggests a devious Ron Paul leading conservatives down a path to socialist hell….. like, say ORiley
We are not privy to the real genealogies of these families, but they go back a loooong long way. The history we are taught is of course bunk. One thing’s for sure, we are run by a tightly controlled pack of international pirates who truly believe they are a different species. Their destructive marauding is about to step up a notch; their war against poverty will be the war against the poor; their war to “save the planet” will sound the death knell to nature as we know it. Stick around. It’s going to get interesting.
Oh, and as parenting becomes licensed, watch how they weed out the independent thinkers from our “gene pool”. It’s the Age of Aquarius, you know.
@Zach — Am in the process of setting up a nice camp for American regufees in Auckland… all the first world amenities that Americans have come to enjoy — except no dental hygenist on site, no wet-wipes in the bathroom etc…
Should be ready to receive our first batch late next year. You’d be welcome to apply but political dissidents will get first dibs
The “breakthrough” is that opening up Medicare for people aged 55-64 is on the table, as is expanding Medicaid and ditching the near-worthless public option for something worse: a privatized public option.
Progressives may think at first blush that the expansion of Medicare is something to cheer. I am sure that some people in that 55-64 age category would be happy to buy in to Medicare (it would be a buy-in; people would pay premiums), but . . . . According to census data, the 55-64 age bracket was projected to include 17.4 million people by July 2008. Not an insignificant number; however, we know that Medicare already covers the most expensive people, so by expanding the program to allow the next most-expensive age group to buy in, we’d really be helping out the insurance cartel.
Worse than that, there are rumors that the 55-64 age group will be cherry-picked so that not all of the approx. 17.4 million can buy in to Medicare– just the poorest and sickest amongst them. And it wouldn’t even be Medicare, it would be “Medicare”: a Medicare-like program that will disappear in 2014 when the new health insurance exchanges, consisting of private health insurance “options” will be made available to some small businesses as well as all who are uninsured (at least those are the only groups that were previously spoken of as being allowed into the exchange).
This whole thing was a complete giveaway to the insurance cartel before. Remarkably, the Senate has found a way to make the deal an even better one for them. All of the details aren’t out yet, of course, but what it sounds like is that the government is going to help the private insurers rid themselves of even more costly people by as early as 2010 (which will be good for profits) before putting the exchange system in place (by 2014) that will mandate that everyone who is not on real Medicare, Medicaid, or some other gov’t program (i.e. Tricare for the VA; SCHIP) buy private insurance–with subsidizes going to those who can not afford it. Got it? The gov’t will still cover the poor so that private insurers don’t have to (poor people cost a lot of $!) and will force all others who are uninsured and not poor enough (yet) onto private insurance. There is no cost-control mechanism, because there will be no genuine competition and nothing in place to prevent private insurers from raising premiums even more. It’s beyond being a nightmare. Pay attention to health care stocks in the next few days; the cartel & Wall St. are going to love this disgrace.
Sorry if you were offended by my mentioning Ron Paul’s loyalties.
The U.S. is the outcome of the Rosicrucian agenda; you can see the evidence everywhere. Albert Pike called the lower level masons “useful idiots”. Life begins at 40, the 40th degree, but you have to belong to special bloodlines to get above the 33rd degree. The 33rd degree is honorary.
Freemasonry is just one of many occult societies, organized to help push the industrial revolution forward. It will be dismantled before long, and the useful idiots processed.
1. No person or entity on Earth should be buying any Sovereign bonds that are beyond the 7 year accounting window. All of these bonds should be rated CCC or even DDD by default.
2. The US federal bond rates should be at -26% at least, whatever the highest permissible interest rate is for credit cards.
3. Even if the above were followed, there are still trillions of USD bonds that need to be spent or converted to 7 year or less timeframes — and in the bigger picture this will only fix about 10% of the US part of the global finance crisis.
No Comment
Phase 2 indeed. It’s like we fell from space and only bounced off the clouds last time.
And the winner is… me!
missed it by that much
We’re moving into phase two now – but how many phases are there???
Greek Fiscal Situation Continues Slow Boil
http://www.fundmymutualfund.com/2009/12/greek-fiscal-situation-continues-slow.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+FundMyMutualFund+%28Fund+my+Mutual+Fund%29
@ Frank Hope
Would you believe by 2 comments?
now that’s saving ladies and gentlemen.
@ronron
Savings? I think they might just as well de-list the word from the dictionary. I think that is the goal. Force everyone into speculation.
somthing stinks -
The UN climate talks in Copenhagen descended into acrimony overnight after the leaking of a draft “Copenhagen Agreement” that would require developing countries to take on targets as the world cut emissions in half by 2050.
Drafted by the Danish Government after talks with the so-called “circle of commitment”, including Australian Prime Minister Kevin Rudd, the document said global emissions should peak by the end of next decade but did not include any emissions targets for 2020 or specific proposals for the creation of a green fund to help the most vulnerable. Control of climate change finance would be passed to the World Bank.
http://www.smh.com.au/environment/climate-change/copenhagen-climate-summit-in-disarray-after-document-leak-20091209-ki29.html
people are saving thank you notes instead of buying gold. you can’t make this shit up.
Just when you thought we were rid of one criminal.
Pimco Hires Former Bank Bailout Chief Kashkari in Equities Push.
“Kashkari will join on Dec. 14 and work in Pimco’s headquarters in California. He will be responsible for new product development and client management.”
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aViR4zT_CpKE&pos=4
oh don’t forget this one…
Another hidden bailout for AIG courtesy of Bernanke…
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/grayson-rips-bernanke-over-latest-aig-bailout-insinuates-attempted-irs-fraud-grossly-illegal
How much gold does Greece have?
http://www.usgold.com/world-gold-holdings/
@WL, about 4billion dollars of gold, or 112 tonnes?
I though belly button lint was the real Afghan in terms of smoking..
Why would you store your money so it would become worth less (I assume there are transaction fees). Germany has boatloads of privately owned gold, even gold vending machines. Ebay shows a small drop in price.
@Stacy
I read a story about a greek guy that was checking out a (vulcanic) eruption..He and his men ended up sintered by a pyroclastic avalance..
You win the climate babe award today !!
Was helping a friend with the restructuring of her mortgage. The salesmen now ask flat or hourly fees instead of taking comission. That is until you read the fine print and it says only no comission in the first year. Hourly fee 175 Euro (est. 24 hours)or lump sum 4200 Euro. Not a bad job if you can get it..key concepts are closed market and price fixing.
@Gordo. you probably right. the big money is being dumped on the dupes as we speak. there buying gold with thank you notes.
@Gordo. i think the dupes are the pension funds.
@gordo – Would you believe by 2 comments?
No? Would you believe about Gordo and Photoception are really botnets that implanted my computer with a “comment delay virus”?
How about Max Keiser is really Maxwell Smart in disguise and Stacy is really the lovely Agent 99?
I uh, hope I wasn’t out of line with that crack about that Max and Stacy.
Time to use the Cone of Silence.
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Get_Smart
@Gordo. remember the brithish gold exchange offering 1350.00 if you did not take delivery. we live in interesting times.
@FrankHope. 1′st means not having to make a living.
What is this nonsense about “Phase Two” – I’ve just heard Obama on the radio saying the financial crisis is coming to an end…
Perhaps he is just talking about the USA?
N.
@ gb
No chance.
Max and Stacey are bought into the Climate Change hoax. And not willing to confront any reality coming trough. Not noble enough to rectify I’m afraid.
Goldman Sachs: Tell Us More
http://action.seiu.org/page/speakout/tellusmore
@ronron – 1’st means not having to make a living
… and loving it!
i thought max and stacey were more along the lines of peak oil and resources. when did they mention global warming. i must have missed that class.
@FrankHope. i’m a pretty good judge of character.
@ ron ron
sorry in advance if I’m wrong but I would bet a dime that’s the case ron ron.
I even heard Stacey defending the millions Gore made out of it. You see, most well-meaning ecologists become confused thinking that the “climate change”(sic) agenda has anything ecological when it’s all political. The “common interest” required to create a calculated “unique response”.
@nick
You could be right – they seem to be about to suck the remaining cash of the planet into their trasuries
During the last great depression the USA was the major surplus country (Like China is today) yet the States suffered the biggest fall – The British empire only declined slightly relatively to America (The British could be compared to the USA today)
The adventures of Max and Stacy alias Maxwell Smart and Agent 99…
Agent 99: Oh, Max, how terrible.
Maxwell Smart: He deserved it, 99. He was a Kaos killer.
Agent 99: Sometimes I wonder if we’re any better, Max.
Maxwell Smart: What are you talking about, 99? We have to shoot and kill and destroy. We represent everything that’s wholesome and good in the world.
yes yes i remember the defense of al but the new information is only 2 weeks old. ask them what they think of the new information.
I’m wishing for them to come clear and apologise if needed but as I said I’m afraid they`re bought into it.
phase 2 (strike two)– three strikes & were all up shit creek
this thread is over the kuckoos nest. bye ya’ll
The 10 Countries Most Likely To Default
http://www.businessinsider.com/the-worlds-greatest-sovereign-risks-2009-12
Cumulative Probability of Default
Lebanon 17%
California 18%
Lithuania 19%
Iceland 23%
Dubai 29%
Latvia 30%
Pakistan 36%
Argentina 49%
Ukraine 55%
Venezuela 60%
Well, UK, Ireland & Greece are EU countries, maybe that is why they were excluded ?
@DorkfromCork:
During the last great depression the USA was the major surplus country (Like China is today)
And what if China follows the same scenerio the US did in the depression?
Treasuries at 0% this is insane… why would someone want to put money into something that earns no interest.
Treasuries at 0% this is insane… why would someone want to put money into something that earns no interest.
@Joe:
Bill Gross says, “a return of my money, not on my money” for these times ahead. Like yaghts all lining up to at anchor to ride out the storm.
@frances
so this is really pointing out to a possible date (next year) where everything crashes? – better to have your money somewhere safe then where it can be sucked away?
Bloomberg Article
“Bank of Korea Sees ‘Illusion’ in Gold, No Cash Return”
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601080&sid=ag2cRG2_O1Jk
Lee Eung Baek, head of Bank of Korea’s reserve-management department claims that central banks just buy gold and don’t sell it for a profit even if prices rise. That there is no cash return and “There’s an illusion in gold”.
A couple obvious issues with his views are the fact that buyers who don’t/won’t sell are a bullish indicator.
And, why wouldn’t a central bank be able to sell a portion of their gold reserves later at a profit if they wanted to? He’s implying that they are bound to follow past practices which simply isn’t true.
It’s so illogical it’s as if Jon Nadler wrote it.
If he’s going to discount concerns about significant monetary debasement he’d better have more to bring to the table than ‘Slim Chance’. If that were the case then Gold wouldn’t be at the price it’s at currently.
@francessnoot
well the comme party might be in a bit of trouble which is why they are spending there cash now to keep the show going…….. for now
I guess the captains of Industry in the states of the 1930s new the peasants would not rebel so they kept their cash in treusuries and off shore gold
@Joe:
I think the basel mandates are going to kill capital investment in 2010. So in a deflationary enviro, people are looking to hold their money safe-like. US banks aren’t a good bet. I don’t see gold crashing below 850 until the IMF finishes setting up their sdr-jacks game. And the euro/dollar/pound/krona/yen/loonie basket will set those currencies until the time comes to crash out that basket. Sdr weighting will be an indication of the way things are going: that should be re-weighted sometimes in mid 2010. Right now it is the euro/dollar/yen/pound. The currencies outside the fence are going to be toasted first.
Did you read Leap 2020? They have consistently pointed to the sovereign default dominos, calling it geopolitical dislocation:
http://www.leap2020.eu/English_r25.html
When everything falls down, one will see the skeleton remaining of the new international financial system. It is in place, with regulatory agencies set to rule after the collapse. I think the sdr-bond game is the kicker for the power vector.
Equities are at risk too from the China banking crisis just kicking off. The same ratios will be instituted in US banks this next year. It is a global cross-border standard:
http://business.globaltimes.cn/industries/2009-12/490423.html
This is all my OPINION, Joe.
$11.6 million in stock was purchased by insiders, while a whopping $957 million was sold. And somehow pundits are still spinning this mass orchestrated sell into the bid by those in the know as a bull market.
@Dork:
I can’t believe how screwed up central banks make their countries. It is incredible. And the regulatory agencies just do their job…just do their job. Ya think someone would scratch their head and say, Huh?
American tax dollars at work in Iraq
Picture link:
http://tinyurl.com/yjd2ly9
Discussion at reddit.com:
http://tinyurl.com/ygk32ny
@frances
Thanks for the info- checking out your links now
@danialS
it strikes me we have a full scale assult on the price of gold from the vasel states – It may be the last throw of the dice
- you never know the gamblers may win again
All this stuff happened after a meeting with the Japs last week!
@francessnoot
Huh…. I’m just doing my job in the free market , what do I know
@Off-topic – email privacy. If you’re wondering how hard it is to get your emails or other info from ISPs, telephone network providers, etc., check out this page: http://cryptome.org/0001/yahoo-cryptome.htm
This is interesting stuff!
@Frances,….”This is all my OPINION, Joe.”
You don’t say,..nothing like stating the obvious! ; )
YouTube – The Huge Mistake – Climate Change Solutions 2009 http://bit.ly/4BTnW1
Copenhagen climate summit in disarray after ‘Danish text’ leak
The draft hands effective control of climate change finance to the World Bank.
http://tinyurl.com/yary4sr
Robert Fisk – Obama is a Disaster
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vl5iocwXTUE
“(Afganistan is) the graveyard of empires”
So right Robert. My man!
This Post came on Zero Hedge by Anonymous -Could not agree with his assessments more.
on Tue, 12/08/2009 – 16:52
#157044
Bingo. The system broke…they strung together a whole year for cashing out and bonuses…then it’s off to the bunkers and the whole thing burns.
I figure a lot of the banksters had a lot of property and bonds to get rid of, plus needed time to make exit plans.
All exit plans should now be in place.
Only question is, do they hand off the whole mess to govts/chumps/taxpayers in an orgasmic spasm or do some try to stay private and keep on milking? I bet it’s the parlor conversation of the century in certain steam rooms.
climate cops and Goldman sacstroopers…..a brave new world indeed.
http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,1481988,00.jpg
Brussels gives CIA the power to search UK bank records
http://tinyurl.com/ygzy3j8
“THE CIA is to be given broad access to the bank records of millions of Britons under a European Union plan to fight terrorism.
The Brussels agreement, which will come into force in two months’ time, requires the 27 EU member states to grant requests for banking information made by the United States under its terrorist finance tracking programme.
In a little noticed information note released last week, the EU said it had agreed that Europeans would be compelled to release the information to the CIA “as a matter of urgency”. The records will be kept in a US database for five years before being deleted.
Critics say the system is “lopsided” because there is no reciprocal arrangement under which the UK authorities can easily access the bank accounts of US citizens in America.”
Remember when it was leaked, that Blair and his cronies secretly set an agenda to increase immigration for the UK, well, read below,..frickin’ priceless!!
“Putting it another way, with its 2003 footprint of 5.6 gha/cap a sustainable population would be only 17 million people. This means that the UK has currently 43 million more citizens than can be sustained in the long term
http://www.ukcolumn.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/HowManyPeople.pdf
What’s the mantra ! 1,2,and a 3,. “Problem, Reaction, Solution” . ; )
Copenhagen climate summit in disarray after ‘Danish text’ leak
http://tinyurl.com/yary4sr
Developing countries react furiously to leaked draft agreement that would hand more power to rich nations, sideline the UN’s
negotiating role and abandon the Kyoto protocol
American tax dollars hard at work in Iraq
Picture:
http://i.imgur.com/7KqxY.jpg
Discussion:
http://tinyurl.com/ygk32ny
@ Frank Hope
Would you believe about Gordo and Photoception are really botnets that implanted my computer with a “comment delay virus”?
Not when I have a vast Climate changing fan installed at the north pole.
@ Stephen
climate change/agreement/usary will be the impetus for ww3
We are now seeing unfold before our very eyes the domino effect of Sovereign Debt default.
Lyndon Larouche warned about this a long long time ago and is the only one with a plan to bring us out of the onsrushing
breakdown crisis.
Mr. Larouche has the only plan, which includes a 4-powers agreement between the U.S., China, India, and Russia, and
a return to a Glass-Steagall standard for the rebirth of a Constitutional Sovereign Credit-System anchored by a return
to a Bretton Woods fixed-exchange rate system.
I suggest we do what we can to get Larouche’s plan implemented before it’s too late.
Otherwise welcome to a New Dark Age of Neo-Fuedalism and Serfdom where the British Empire of Worthless Derivatives
collaterized by carbon-backed securities will create a bubble that will wipe out 70 to 80% of mankind by fraudently making
carbon dioxide and air itself a ‘scarce commodity’.
“Tiny Tim” wants to extend TRAP till OCT next year!
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=a0U1v7iV0Gt8&pos=2
Mike
why do economic threads turn to verbal diaria.yes were out of fricken oil. this is a investment thread.
@Dedo:
Well, I might be accused of being a bit of a know-it-all. Just hedging.
@Stacy – In case you missed it in the last 200 plus responses to your last posting, I bring to You Bush Days of Christmas –
• In the past administration George Bush gave to me –
TSA agents groping,
FISA search for snooping,
Torture for detainees,
Florida hijacked voting,
Patriot Act against me,
Phone calls for spying,
Wall Street bailout billions,
PRIVATE MERCANARIESSSSSSSS,
4th amendments gone,
Unlimited detention,
Wars to escalate,
And some bombs for the Iraqis.
CHICAGO—Looming behind the 17 million jobless tsunami hitting the country is another disaster: over $180 billion in accumulated budget deficits set to devastate state governments, according to a new study by the Pew Center for the States.
The Economic Policy Institute (EPI) says in addition, city and town governments are expected to have deficits of $100 billion over the next two years.
This threatens a calamity like the one playing out in California. Many states face horrendous cuts to education, health care, mass transit and other human service programs, skyrocketing taxes and fees that will severely slow any economic recovery … //
The debt burdened west will self-destruct under its own weight….
Some two decades ago, it was decided by the global financial elites that the framework for the global economy shall consist of:
1) A global derivative-based financial system, controlled by the US Federal Reserve Bank and its associate global banks in the developed countries.
2) The re-location from the West to the East in the production of goods, principally to China and India to “feed” the developed economies.
The entire system was built on a simple principle, that of a FED-controlled global reserve currency which will be the engine for growth for the global economy. It is essentially an imperialist economic principle.
http://blog.heidi-barathieu-brun.ch/wp-archive/2688#more-2688
Zero Hedge: Huge Japanese GDP Miss: 1.3% Revised Versus 4.8% Preliminary, 2.8% Consensus.
And so Goldman will be forced to start revising its forecasts ever lower. Revised GDP came out at 1.3% versus preliminary annualized numbers of 4.8%. Now that’s a miss that would make even the BLS and the D.C. propaganda bureau blush. Expectations were for 2.8% GDP.
Bloomberg: Japan’s Economy Grows Less-Than-Estimated 1.3% as Capital Spending Slides http://tinyurl.com/yhsvfkz
Dr. Head, don’t forget throwing out habeus corpus, the beatiful gift. Won by a thousand years of struggle of men with kings.
@Dr. Richard Head
Very good for Bush, can you do one for Max?
..finally!!!!
AUS Demand for mortgages ease slightly
http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-business/demand-for-mortgages-ease-slightly-20091209-kite.html
@Frances,.Why don’t you start your own blog,.your writing is quite addictive,..huh ?
@Dedo:
I’m a creature of habit, Dedo. I’m addicted to y’all!
Besides, Stella wants to see if she can channel anybody other than Stacy.
Dedo:
Give me an idea all I’ll start writing a book! Whatya think?
High-stakes duel between Rep. Paul and Bernanke intensifies
http://thehill.com/homenews/house/71069-high-stakes-duel-between-paul-and-bernanke-intensifies
@Joe,
Thanks for posting that on the Huge Mistake.
ITs the best argument I’ve seen so far against Cap & Trade.
However I don’t see many opponents of Cap and Trade suggesting an alternative, that’s where this video is different.
You-all have me in tizzy, I called up the bank who sells this stuff direct to peeps. Sorry sold out! Been on order for two weeks.WTF!
Collapse In Tax Withholdings Refutes Improvements In Either Unemployment Or Corporate Profitability http://tinyurl.com/ykvqa37
Lady Gaga doing an Obama bow for the Queen of England:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/news/2009/12/08/lady-gaga-meets-the-queen-at-royal-variety-performance-115875-21881111/
@dan
thanks! Bernankes Fed is in trouble – Socialist politicians to far right republicans supper his bill. the fed is toast!
Gold I mean, Scotia Bank one of worlds largest dealers.
@chris
I also thought of a possible alternative – possibly un-subsidizing oil would let the public bear the burden of the true cost – making renewable alternatives more cost effective. If it is produced by economies of scale then that would be a viable solution. — Just a thought.
Buck stops here: Local currency in DC to ditch dollar?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACV0pAmWTHE&feature=player_embedded
@Joe…need to unsubsidize farms …that would be a huge step in limiting govt.
@Frances: I think you’d write a good book explaining “words” in a story form,..bit like Alice in Wonderland : )
Byrne takes naked shorters for another $5 million:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/12/09/overstock_settles_suit/
Pay day for the gangsters at Blood & Gore. Strange how silent the media is. about the nice fat commissions these two crooks will be receiving from all these carbone credit indulgences. Next step ? If you cannot pay your carbone credits they cut your lungs out.
Great idea, Dedo! Will think on that one.
@DAN
I live right by there! – Havent heard of it yet but need to change currencies
It would sell, Dedo, if Bonn could co-write it with me!!!
Always the same ol story with Bernhanke about rates:
“I do if I can but I won’t” and can’t but he doesn’t say that of cause.
Bernanke Signals Fed Will Keep Outlook for `Extended Period’ of Low Rates http://tinyurl.com/y9g7cun
US Air Force confirms ‘Beast of Kandahar’ drone..
The photo of the drone in Afghanistan has raised questions about why the United States would be operating a stealth unmanned aircraft in a country where insurgents have no radar systems, prompting speculation Washington was using the drones for possible spying missions in neighboring Iran or Pakistan.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20091208/pl_afp/usaviationmilitarydrones_20091208212912
@Frances,.. If Bonn were a character in Alice and Wonderland,..who would he be ? ; )
@Marc Authier
Yeah lol, the case of “Killing the useless marathon man” cause they breath too much. No more jogging obesity is good ( as long as they are not heavy breathers.)
No more Olympic games – to much CO2 produced
Al Gore…We Are Now in a Crucial Moment — It’s Time to Make a Decision……My investors need to know!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/al-gore/we-are-now-in-a-crucial-m_b_383058.html?alacarte=1
@Dedo:
WELL….
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3454/3987794241_185096505a_m.jpg
And he’d say:
“hi alice ten large down two to go…hic”
Here’s Youri!
http://www.shapingyouth.org:8000/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/cheshirecat.jpg
this is what I wrote to my senator who just emailed me email pushing insurance company bailout healthcare.
I don’t care if you make it so I have to pay 50 dollars a month. I can’t afford any mandatory health care. If I die just bury me where I fall. To hell with the insurance companys and government mandatory health care. Let goldman sachs pay for it. They stole all our money and jobs anyway.
Oh, The force of spirit
uniting one and all
the time is here
to thwart the divide
thrust upon us all
now strife shall arise alliance
firmly yearning again be free
from the evil clan
that seized our liberty
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEpX2BcB9As
@frances snoot
Yep, ahahahahhah! that sure feels like me http://tinyurl.com/ykh7two
For all of you Beatles fans out there, I’ve been listening to a fantastic interview with John Lennon from 1970. Altogether it’s about 2-1/2 hours long.
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/16313366/john_lennon_hear_his_rolling_stone_interview
Thanks, Youri! GREAT PHOTO! Here, it’s a compliment:
http://www.sabian.org/alice6mj.htm
Scroll down to the bottom for the cheshire cat!
@ Frank
Re the video you posted ““Free this town – New World Orders gotta die””
with the line
“like my boy Ron Paul”
We are being horned. Every hero and villain is given to us. It’s just a stage play.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_x6inINzThw&NR=1
@ Ptah
They have all their bases covered.
On the damage control “opposition”–Lord Monkton & Lord Lawson, for example, your link says it all.
For those who missed it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1cgFqhXCRk
@Phil/Germany- I am amused that California is listed as a “country”. We often think of ourselves that way.
@Stacy:
Thought you’d like to read this:
http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/12/07/sarah-palin-is-coming-to-town/
Stacy:
It is a book review, but I thought Fish glanced over her resignation as governor a little to easily. THAT is the most telling part of the book about ‘who Sarah Palin is to presenting herself to be’. How come she is still a viable candidate?
She is being rewarded, and the Fish essay was just one of those perks of doing ‘a good job’ for the big boys.
@anything but green
that Ron Paul video was weird as hell lol – Illuminati handsigns?
I did not realize how easy they made this program to profiteer by,,,
Head of California’s Cap and Trade Offsets Program: Cap and Trade Won’t Work for Climate, It’s a Scam
Specifically, they point out that:
* Cap and trade was tried in Europe, but ended up raising energy prices, creating volatility, produced few greenhouse gas reductions, but made billions for the financial players
* Even the guy who invented the cap and trade concept doesn’t think it will work in regards to climate change (see this and this)
* Carbon offsets – which are part of the cap and trade plan – increase pollution
* One reason that offsets lead to more pollution is that investors fight to keep toxic chemicals legal, so they can make more money off of trading the offsets
* Like subprime mortgages and other creative financial instruments which brought us the economic crisis, carbon offsets lack integrity and don’t work (see this)
http://tinyurl.com/ygxlvbz
Yup, they are really horning us. No wonder this is becoming a taboo topic.
http://algorelied.com/?p=3011
IPCC Lead Author: ‘We will continue to create and tell new stories about climate change and mobilize them in support of our projects.’
Dr. Richard Lindzen notes some inconvenient quotes from Michael Hulme’s book, Why We Disagree About Climate Change:
“The idea of climate change should be seen as an intellectual resource around which our collective and personal identities and projects can form and take shape. We need to ask not what we can do for climate change, but to ask what climate change can do for us.
……
Because the idea of climate change is so plastic, it can be deployed across many of our human projects and can serve many of our psychological, ethical, and spiritual needs.
…….
We will continue to create and tell new stories about climate change and mobilize them in support of our projects.
…….
These myths transcend the scientific categories of ‘true’ and ‘false’” .
And the alarmists tell us they have no political agenda, and that their only desire is to turn down the earth’s thermostat a bit? Please.
Copenhagen climate summit in disarray after ‘Danish text’ leak http://tinyurl.com/yfq98qd
@ Joe
Whenever you scratch around, you find the same old game, or some weird blanks.
Ron Paul’s wife is Eastern Star, which means he’s at least third generation and his wife was chosen for him. His daughter is a Rainbow Girl. He would have been worked over heavily from a very young age. To be chosen as the False Hope for the Masses, he would be very high up the ladder and have a strong pedigree, grafted to the main trunk a long time ago.
Good entertainment, though. Many of the links here are to “Freedom Watch”– sad how people’s instincts have been so blunted that they can’t see all the shows as just that–shows, and military ops in fact; the fake heroes are military weapons just as surely as the physical kinds are, but ultimately far more lethal.
SAYWhat?
How do you know ‘his wife was chosen for him’, Anything?
What is a Rainbow girl/
@anything but green….youve posted this statement like a 100 times……
Climate through the ages. http://tinyurl.com/yhnzpug
@Joe…..no scissorjax needed…nice.
@anything
Ron Paul was groomed from an early age to be a fake leader? He was early on working in the fields of obstetrics/gynecology. His political career wasn’t some Manchurian candidate scheme. Im sorry but Im not buying into any of that for one second
@Joe
No Ron Paul has a problem with is hands …broken or somtin. Ron Paul comes from a dairy farm and is one of the true ol Americans, hard working and using his sane mind.
Someone posted about amy goodman being a leftwing gatekeeper…she remind anyone else of the landlord in the movie kingpin?
@ youri….dairy farm..yep the finger position is that of a milker.
Paul comes from a dairy farm and is one of the true ol Americans, hard working and using his sane mind.
Youri, I thought we were all war-monging barbarians?
Karl Denninger on the roque (again) and for good reasons:
See How They Lie (Again) – Biz Sentiment http://tinyurl.com/yc2thra
Loan Modifications: A JOKE http://tinyurl.com/yg7cuck
@frances snoot
Well as they say” “Excpetion makes the Rule”
Otherwise we wouldn’t be swimming in this Barbarian shit, would we.
@Youri:
Yes, but your exceptions are rather unruly.
Youri, I think the whole ‘dairy-farmer’ thingy is a mythology. Perhaps you are referring to the goose that laid the golden egg, with Ron Paul being the Goose?
RP, Freemason
If your wife is an Eastern Star, that means you’re at least third generation Freemason and that your wife was selected for you.
If your daughter is a Rainbow Girl, the same thing applies.
What is RP’s role? Is this so very difficult?
Why is it that Rudd (Oz) speaks Chinese? Just a coincidence?
Oh, about posting 100 times, I post in response to the RP accolades.
If you were the King of the World Chessgame, wouldn’t you set up the pieces on all sides before you begin the game?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/6764177/Ex-Fed-chief-Paul-Volckers-telling-words-on-derivatives-industry.html
Ex-Fed chief Paul Volcker’s ‘telling’ words on derivatives industry
Paul Volcker, the chairman of President Obama’s Economic Recovery Advisory Board, stunned a business conference in Sussex yesterday, saying there is “little evidence innovation in financial markets has had a visible effect on the productivities of the economy”.
By Louise Armitstead
Published: 9:41PM GMT 08 Dec 2009
The former US Federal Reserve chairman told an audience that included some of the world’s most senior financiers that their industry’s “single most important” contribution in the last 25 years has been automatic telling machines, which he said had at least proved “useful”.
Echoing FSA chairman Lord Turner’s comments that banks are “socially useless”, Mr Volcker told delegates who had been discussing how to rebuild the financial system to “wake up”. He said credit default swaps and collateralised debt obligations had taken the economy “right to the brink of disaster” and added that the economy had grown at “greater rates of speed” during the 1960s without such products.
When one stunned audience member suggested that Mr Volcker did not really mean bond markets and securitisations had contributed “nothing at all”, he replied: “You can innovate as much as you like, but do it within a structure that doesn’t put the whole economy at risk.”
He said he agreed with George Soros, the billionaire investor, who said investment banks must stick to serving clients and “proprietary trading should be pushed out of investment banks and to hedge funds where they belong”.
Mr Volcker argued that banks did have a vital role to play as holders of deposits and providers of credit. This importance meant it was correct that they should be “regulated on one side and protected on the other”. He said riskier financial activities should be limited to hedge funds to whom society could say: “If you fail, fail. I’m not going to help you. Your stock is gone, creditors are at risk, but no one else is affected.”
RP’s handshake… did he learn that milking cows?
Here’s another hero, eyeing the children.
David de Rothschild at Zeitgeist Europe 2007
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2ahWHbUVVU&feature=related
Disinformation out there? I hear SELL GOLD. RON PAUL ILLUMINATI AND HE IS A FALSE HOPE? Jesus christ. WTF??!!
One more torque of pressure in Mid East
Turkey; talks turkey to Israel …
http://www.politicaltheatrics.net/?p=1275
Stella’s gone A-Figurin’
I’m gonna tell you a story. It’s about what makes a lie happen.
You have got to suck up all the spit in your mouth and just let it rip straight out onto the dust that’s a-layin about your feet. That’s the start of a lie: spit an dust. Right up against the tongue it begins to form: eating its way into the world of words to land, coy-like, with all the other stories that’s waiting to be sold.
Lies just one of those stories. Laying around in the dust with its own pool of spit, waiting for someone to take notice of it. Seems sometimes it resembles the dust so much that it seems unlikely it will get a notice.
But up comes the salesman. He’s a’wearing long his sinews like a stringed-instrument ready to twang. He’s looking to turn a profit on words, and he’s hoping to find just the right combination of spit-dust to take home the bacon. And, Yes Sir, he finds that one left last Sunday between the combine and the collard patch: good and ready-to-go-to the market. He bundles the lie up like a wet fish in a wad of paper and sells if for a quarter or a dollar, depending.
You might be reading a lie right now. You never can really tell.
@ D R H—Disinformation out there?
might get a kick out of this … interesting history
http://www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmith_Rothschild.htm
Gold, TARP, jobs, politicians, senate race
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epe5OF-oyr4&feature=topvideos
http://freemasonrywatch.org/ron.paul.freemason.html
All senators and congressmen are actors performing their parts, and on very short leashes. They generally have skeletons in the closet, and are thus subject to blackmail. When things go wrong, there will be broken bones/careers, jail sentences, or plain old Wellstoning.
Washington and his English opponent (General Cornwallis) were wont to meet in one or the other’s tent for a nice cup of Freemasonic tea after a days “battle”. Things haven’t changed.
@ Justget Itright
Well, the official story is a smokescreen, but slowly a clearer picture is being given to us. Bradford-Smith is, sorry to say, another gatekeeper. Doesn’t mean that gatekeeper info is not worth reading. That’s about all we’re given.
All the royals are Rothschilds. And yes, they do kill their own. And they are about as “Yewish” as the average Catholic is a trained “Yesuit” assassin. Organized religions are created by the same elite. Their own religion is more akin to Hinduism and Kabalah. They’re very into reincarnation but not the kind they sell to the masses. It’s a high-tech effort–life sciences, eugenics, etc. Why is a can-nighthood such a sought-after reward by all the low-life busy bees?
Rothschilds are a bunch of inbred scum. Their original name of the German Jewish was family is BAUER http://tinyurl.com/yhzoo3b
But the Rockefellers are even more inbred degenerate psychopatic sociopathic scum, they’re even worse.
Rothschilds are a bunch of inbred scum. Their original name of the German Jewiz was family is BAUER http://tinyurl.com/yhzoo3b
But the Rockefellers are even more inbred degenerate psychopatic sociopathic scumbags, they’re even worse.
Hi.
I’m in California. I’m going to try to stick it out here with cows, goats, and chickens, but when we are trading shotgun shells for roasted lizards, I’m going to be looking for a sponsor for NZ or OZZ.
I’ll labor and tell you Mad Max stories of the Great Depression, Santa Barbara chapter.
@ Joe
Joe. Can no honest person make it to washington at all?
I mean, I hear you on the psy ops cable programming. Watch 30 Rock for a few episodes with the realization that it’s owned by General Electric. Anyone with a liberal education and a newshound streak can see it.
But regarding all the anti federal reserve rogues, we sometimes see on TV, do yo really have a ton of data to suggest that Ron Paul is really has his hand in the shadow-bank cookie jar?
I understand that Fox News is trying to position itself to appeal to the War Mongering rednecks of the USA, while coddling intellectual libertarians at the same time.
But I don’t think that supports an argument which suggests a devious Ron Paul leading conservatives down a path to socialist hell….. like, say ORiley
I take offense to the besmirching of Ron Paul’s good name.
@ Youri
We are not privy to the real genealogies of these families, but they go back a loooong long way. The history we are taught is of course bunk. One thing’s for sure, we are run by a tightly controlled pack of international pirates who truly believe they are a different species. Their destructive marauding is about to step up a notch; their war against poverty will be the war against the poor; their war to “save the planet” will sound the death knell to nature as we know it. Stick around. It’s going to get interesting.
Oh, and as parenting becomes licensed, watch how they weed out the independent thinkers from our “gene pool”. It’s the Age of Aquarius, you know.
How much do we know about the most famous figure in Western literature? Did he actually exist?
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7004942638729319523#
@Zach — Am in the process of setting up a nice camp for American regufees in Auckland… all the first world amenities that Americans have come to enjoy — except no dental hygenist on site, no wet-wipes in the bathroom etc…
Should be ready to receive our first batch late next year. You’d be welcome to apply but political dissidents will get first dibs
Is a person’s “good name” besmirched by pointing out that he is a Freemason?
Washington was a Freemason. It would be hard to find a prominent historical figure who was not in one of the fraternities.
@ anyone who is still paying attention to the health care debacle
Breakthrough in Senate health care talks.
The “breakthrough” is that opening up Medicare for people aged 55-64 is on the table, as is expanding Medicaid and ditching the near-worthless public option for something worse: a privatized public option.
Progressives may think at first blush that the expansion of Medicare is something to cheer. I am sure that some people in that 55-64 age category would be happy to buy in to Medicare (it would be a buy-in; people would pay premiums), but . . . . According to census data, the 55-64 age bracket was projected to include 17.4 million people by July 2008. Not an insignificant number; however, we know that Medicare already covers the most expensive people, so by expanding the program to allow the next most-expensive age group to buy in, we’d really be helping out the insurance cartel.
Worse than that, there are rumors that the 55-64 age group will be cherry-picked so that not all of the approx. 17.4 million can buy in to Medicare– just the poorest and sickest amongst them. And it wouldn’t even be Medicare, it would be “Medicare”: a Medicare-like program that will disappear in 2014 when the new health insurance exchanges, consisting of private health insurance “options” will be made available to some small businesses as well as all who are uninsured (at least those are the only groups that were previously spoken of as being allowed into the exchange).
This whole thing was a complete giveaway to the insurance cartel before. Remarkably, the Senate has found a way to make the deal an even better one for them. All of the details aren’t out yet, of course, but what it sounds like is that the government is going to help the private insurers rid themselves of even more costly people by as early as 2010 (which will be good for profits) before putting the exchange system in place (by 2014) that will mandate that everyone who is not on real Medicare, Medicaid, or some other gov’t program (i.e. Tricare for the VA; SCHIP) buy private insurance–with subsidizes going to those who can not afford it. Got it? The gov’t will still cover the poor so that private insurers don’t have to (poor people cost a lot of $!) and will force all others who are uninsured and not poor enough (yet) onto private insurance. There is no cost-control mechanism, because there will be no genuine competition and nothing in place to prevent private insurers from raising premiums even more. It’s beyond being a nightmare. Pay attention to health care stocks in the next few days; the cartel & Wall St. are going to love this disgrace.
@ Paul
Sorry if you were offended by my mentioning Ron Paul’s loyalties.
The U.S. is the outcome of the Rosicrucian agenda; you can see the evidence everywhere. Albert Pike called the lower level masons “useful idiots”. Life begins at 40, the 40th degree, but you have to belong to special bloodlines to get above the 33rd degree. The 33rd degree is honorary.
Freemasonry is just one of many occult societies, organized to help push the industrial revolution forward. It will be dismantled before long, and the useful idiots processed.
http://www.watch.pair.com/mason.html
Bob Chapman – Radio Liberty – Power Hour – Proof 7-8 Dec. 2009 (economical) http://tinyurl.com/yhpfygn
Iraqi resistance going strong–gov’t targets hit; 127 dead, over 500 injured:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20091209/ml-iraq/
Phase 2 starting to pick up?
Yes, I think so.
Phase 1 was characterised by shock. Phase 2 will be characterised by something more like disgust.
They’re here!;)
http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.vg.no%2Fnyheter%2Fvaer%2Fartikkel.php%3Fartid%3D596359&sl=no&tl=en
(google translation from Norwegian newspaper VG)
China readies to take-on BHP and Rio
http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-business/china-readies-to-takeon-bhp-and-rio-20091209-kjl2.html
1. No person or entity on Earth should be buying any Sovereign bonds that are beyond the 7 year accounting window. All of these bonds should be rated CCC or even DDD by default.
2. The US federal bond rates should be at -26% at least, whatever the highest permissible interest rate is for credit cards.
3. Even if the above were followed, there are still trillions of USD bonds that need to be spent or converted to 7 year or less timeframes — and in the bigger picture this will only fix about 10% of the US part of the global finance crisis.
Oslo – that contrail looks like rocket exhaust.
The plume is high and the green vapor trail is the result of a destruct sequence.