Shoddy Jibber Jabber

Posted on December 30, 2009 by stacyherbert| 32 Comments

Stacy Summary: I believe many of us were complaining about the shoddy nature of many products in the shops these days. Well, apparently, manufacturers are moving production back to UK due to the shoddy quality and high freight costs.

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32 Responses to Shoddy Jibber Jabber

Hamster Cheese | December 31, 2009 at 1:41 am |

Well, all I can say is i’ve had a few beers and life is much better now. AND…I have a lava lamp. You have one? A lava lamp? Check it out…moving to and fro… what ever the hell fro means…anyway, things CONSTANTLY change…and therein lies the art of observing the lava lamp after a couple beers. Unpredictable…fluid….ever changing….Max go ding.!
Bill Stewart | December 31, 2009 at 12:47 am |

American Imperialist credit bureaus, somehow pure evil and not helping with the finance crisis …

Abolish the Credit Bureaus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2UNBtm0t4k
California Doctor | December 30, 2009 at 9:57 pm |

Look at this crapola…
TSA is now getting courts to issue subpoenas on bloggers!

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2009/12/30/us/politics/AP-US-Airliner-Attack-TSA-Supoenas.html
California Doctor | December 30, 2009 at 8:40 pm |

http://www.kitv.com/politics/22094469/detail.html

Rush Limbaugh has been taken by ambulance to Queens Hospital, Oahu, Hawaii.

He apparently was suffering from chest pain and now will be receiving emergency care for chest pain.

It is more than ironic that the portly (if not obese) conservative propagandist is going to be receiving emergency medical care in the ONLY state in the United States that has near universal healthcare.

After railing, criticizing, and sometimes using absolute flat-out lies to mischaracterize the healthcare systems recommended by the Democrats during the recent heatlhcare debate, Mr. Limbaugh will now be benefiting from THAT EXACT SYSTEM!!!

Hawaii has nearly the entire population covered with health insurance due to employer mandates, universal requirements under regulatory review by the state, and a hospital and physician compensation system which is also under tight state scrutiny.

I suppose we will find out later tonight whether or not Mr. Limbaugh has had a heart attack, but the reality is the same.

He will owe his health to the very system that he has been criticizing most profoundly.

And, one other item of interest, why is the man in Hawaii anyway?

I thought he lived in Florida where he often broadcasted from… is he following Obama or something?
Depression Alert | December 30, 2009 at 5:35 pm |

Run From The Cure – The Rick Simpson Story
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjhT9282-Tw
Dan | December 30, 2009 at 4:29 pm |

First we had the Goldman boss who said he was “doing Gods work”, now we have….

Danish Newspaper Says – “Obama Greater Than Jesus: The U.S. President — the practical saviour of our times.”

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tim-graham/2009/12/29/rotten-denmark-danish-newspaper-says-obama-greater-jesus

Dan
A G | December 30, 2009 at 12:46 pm |

MSM become more and more of a joke.

Prudence Brown’s New Year’s message to us (UK tax paying wage slaves) we have 10 years of prosperity ahead of us.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/6907037/Gordon-Brown-promises-decade-of-prosperity-for-2010s.html

“Sling the b’stards out, and get in fresh blood” so we can be screwed over yet again by a blue blooded Eton and Oxford educated Tory… Democracy working at its very best!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Cameron
California Doctor | December 30, 2009 at 11:21 am |

@Giuseppe Bagodonutti
Please post some URL’s for the formulas you describe.

It would not be unusual to see similarity between a true physical science like electromagnetics and basic physics and the macrobehavior of an economy.

Both are formulaic expressions of a dynamic relationship.

If possible, it would be a fun exercise to compare the economic curves to the electronic physical science analogies.

The curves are approximations anyway. When you get sophisticated, you start needing the differential calculus and matrices.
Phil /Germany | December 30, 2009 at 9:25 am |

@Giuseppe Bagodonutti … Debunking Economics ?

Thanks for the tip.
I was given “Too Big to Fail” for Xmas, wondering whether to swap it !
( I prefer reading books about the profound fallacy of Economics than the Crooks Antics on WS .
OTOH, if anyone has already read TBTF, then let me know if I should read it !
TIA
Giuseppe Bagodonutti | December 30, 2009 at 9:15 am |

Speaking of Steve Keen,

Has anyone else picked up his book
Debunking Economics ?

It is pretty good… I’m only on chapter 3, but he already has exposed many holes in the Demand graphs used (without question) by most neo-classical economists…

The part that is causing my brain to do flips is how these graphs (such as indifference and Engels Curves) have many parallels to graphs of TRANSISTORS (such as gain and Hfe plots)
I’m still trying to figure out exactly WHERE I used this math in electronics, but I do remember using it for something…

It reminds me of Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars and how electronics theory can be applied to economics…

Anyway, I highly recommend the book (it is not SIMPLE reading, but it is understandable)
Daniel S | December 30, 2009 at 9:08 am |

Canadian hospitals aren’t really free given that we have a shortage of doctors by design, long waiting lists, and many people without doctors who can’t even get on waiting lists. People resort to going to an Emergency room to see a different doctor every time for consultation and treatment or cancer for example.

An oddity here is that they’ll spend ANY amount of money on medication, but spend about as little as possible on food. They serve things like potato powder that is reconstituted into “mashed potatoes”, battered fried fish, french fries, hamburgers (really rubbery patties), single variety vegetables that have been boiled to death served dripping in water, etc. And if you want better nourishment, they’ll offer you a multi-vitamin pill in a can of soy derivatives, milk derivatives, and sugars, called Boost, or Ensure. Of course it’s no oddity if you consider it as a pill and surgery business that depends on a chronically ill public. No drug company makes money on real food or healthy people. (Monsanto should merge with Bayer and put pills in our food along with their pesticides and herbicides)

Anyways, Canada’s system is so broken I’m not pursuing a surgery I need. I was wondering if the comparison between France’ and US’ pricing on finger attaching is fair given that so many people die of surgical complications in the US.
stacyherbert | December 30, 2009 at 8:28 am |

Speaking of shoddy, here is a comparison between US and France of the cost of re-attaching finger:

http://www.whytraveltofrance.com/2007/07/13/the-cost-of-re-attaching-2-fingertips-in-france/
Depression Alert | December 30, 2009 at 8:09 am |

propoganda
Danny | December 30, 2009 at 7:11 am |

@david
I was actually wondering if you were still around. I didn’t see that documentary but I have it qued up ready to watch now
Daniel S | December 30, 2009 at 6:29 am |

Perhaps a new trend will be local production with foreign workers. In this way some standards can be held higher, upfront costs can be lower than with local labor (especially unions), and the wages paid to foreigners can largely be raked back via various scams.

P.S. regarding Made in Germany. We bought pots branded Zwilling J.A. Henkels, but nowhere do they specifically say “Made in Germany”. In fact only the knife that came with them actually says Germany on it anywhere. I suspect they’re made in Southeast Asia or elsewhere. It’s odd. People tell me, they’re made in Germany but if Addidas just said Addidas and not where they were made wouldn’t people say the same thing? Of course Addidas aren’t made in Germany.
paganrongs | December 30, 2009 at 5:47 am |

@phil
Why not make a bit extra for silver by selling Trodelmarkt stuff on Ebay? Cant say the second hand stuff here in the uk is quality…
david | December 30, 2009 at 5:36 am |

@Danny, some promising signs (perhaps) from this septic isle, credit card debt is down with more people paying them off then taking new ones out, also the amount of mortgages taken out has dropped for the 8th month running. Has the penny finally dropped.
BTW did you catch that RTE doc on the bankers, insightful albeit 7yrs too late.
Phil /Germany | December 30, 2009 at 4:44 am |

@Danny … people in the UK, Ireland and the US are out buying their 20th pair of shoes !

LOL .. good one !

Me? … I am not ashamed to say that my last 6 pairs of shoes cost roughly 6 Euros , except the new Stihl Chainsaw boots I paid 55 Euros for on UK-Ebay , rather than 200+ Euros in Germany.

Seriously folks, the German “Trödelmärkte” are a great source of buying “old quality” rather than “new trash” !!

The money I save ( 6 pairs of shoes@1 Euro = ca. 250 Euros saved ) goes only into serious things like silver, gold and materials for house maintenance.

BTW .. I – of course – use antiseptic/anti-bacterial spray if the shoes have been worn .. but often they are brand new !
Phil /Germany | December 30, 2009 at 4:39 am |

@Stacy … Corporations & Shareholders

Yes, I would agree with you there.

Basically it’s the question whether China also wants to give up it’s Sovereignty to Multinational Corporations … as well !

I posted 10 years ago that maybe “Corporate Quarterly Results” should be banned – only yearly results …. to slow down the WS Casino !

Of course, it wouldn’t work, as the MSM would continue their “Buy the Rumour” and “Sell the News” even more aggressively !
Danny | December 30, 2009 at 3:55 am |

@Fibon
Yeah, while the Chinese public are out buying gold in the Christmas sales, people in the UK, Ireland and the US are out buying their 20th pair of shoes!
Fibon11235 | December 30, 2009 at 3:47 am |

@Danny
“Gold jewelry sales jumped more than 30 percent over the weekend in Beijing, as bargain shoppers swarmed the city’s major jewelry stores on year-end promotions.”

Well this is interesting… were the Ying to Chinas Yang lol
Fibon11235 | December 30, 2009 at 3:36 am |

The worm turns,

The ponsi press defend London at the last minute by sweeping any manufacturing that they can back to defend the pound…

But VOTERS no matter where you or what ever you vote for, be reassure that your leaders wisdom and knowledge will ensure that the economic cleansing be so thorough as to guarantee manufacturing be welcome anywhere and everywhere for a lifetime to come as reality replaces fantasy.

Poor planet.. o the CO2 lies.. as if there were not real problems..
Danny | December 30, 2009 at 3:09 am |

Gold rush grips China as people on buying spree
http://www.commodityonline.com/news/Gold-rush-grips-China-as-people-on-buying-spree-24238-3-1.html
stacyherbert | December 30, 2009 at 2:58 am |

@Phil/Germany – I think ‘shoddy’ comes not necessarily from where the product is made; but has arisen because of shareholders and, in particular, shareholders during this new casino locust capitalism; over the past 15 – 20 years it seems that many brands emerged based on the quality of their goods, then the company behind the brand would go public, and then the shareholders would demand dividends and cost savings, which meant not only outsourcing but also cutting back on the quality of the materials that went into the product that brand was selling; this trend became faster and faster with the emergence of private equity that would do this to the company if the company didn’t do it for its shareholders first
Danny | December 30, 2009 at 2:50 am |

@Phil
LOL! I blood is boiling with all this pre-emptive war crap. How can the American public swallow this AGAIN!?

I think whats happening in Saudi Arabia needs to be watched very closely. ie. 25% world oil comes from there, oil price in dollars, and this defection talk from the US to Russian inside Saudi Arabia.
Phil /Germany | December 30, 2009 at 2:41 am |

@Danny .. nice comments .. LOL !

Yemen is the true home of Al-Qaeda (baloney)
Lieberman: The United States Must Pre-Emptively Act In Yemen (baloney)

LOL … Saudi Arabia is the TRUE HOME of OBL … well, why aren’t they invading Saudi Arabia ?
Oh .. of course, they are already there, protecting the Saudis !
ROTFLMAO !
Danny | December 30, 2009 at 2:33 am |

Morning Stacy

Re: Manufacturers returning to the UK. Have wages dropped to such a level in the UK that companies can now pay them slave wages? We get the “have to remain competitive” line all the time here in Ireland. Thats like getting that “can we just be friends” speech from your girlfriend. Pfffftt….

Yemen is the true home of Al-Qaeda (baloney)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/terrorism-in-the-uk/6898945/Detroit-terror-attack-Yemen-is-the-true-home-of-Al-Qaeda.html
So that means we should go in there and smoke ‘em out – Right, Brain?

Lieberman: The United States Must Pre-Emptively Act In Yemen (baloney)
This guy is truly one of the worst I’ve ever seen
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/27/lieberman-the-united-stat_n_404241.html

With the civil war in Yemen, one side is backed by the Iranians and the other backed by Saudi Arabia.

“The goal here is to play Iran against Saudi Arabia so as to weaken both the pro-Moscow Achmadinejad government in Iran, and also those Saudi forces that are fed up with their status as a US protectorate.”

Remember Prince Bandar….there is a growing pro-Russian faction in Saudi Arabia.
In kingdom, Saudi prince’s coup ‘fails’
http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=102313&sectionid=351020205
Phil /Germany | December 30, 2009 at 2:33 am |

PS@Stacy … shoddy !

I remember the days when “Made in Japan” , “Made in Hong Kong” & “Made in Germany” … meant shoddy Junk !

That was in the 1960′s .. how times have changed !

Some UK temporary houses in the 1960′s were referred to “Gerry Built” ( German made ).
Mother Earth | December 30, 2009 at 2:33 am |

Unwinding globalization..I say Jeey!
Phil /Germany | December 30, 2009 at 2:31 am |

@Stacy .. shoddy manufacturing ?

Well, considering that ALL out Hi-Tech products have been made in China and Asia for at least 10-20 years ( and they are NOT shoddy ), I expect what is happening is that the jobs coming back to the UK must be those plastic toys for Mc’D & Co. !
Bill Stewart | December 30, 2009 at 2:27 am |

Before preaching, remember the opium wars

Britain is in a poor position to condemn the execution of Akmal Shaikh unless it accepts its history of drug dealing to China

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/guest_contributors/article6970891.ece
Bill Stewart | December 30, 2009 at 2:25 am |

A lot of the decisions to outsource a lot of the stuff consumed in the UK were made with too much of the belief in the cheaper currency and cheaper labour zones — and not on actual corporate direction.

UK companies are not the only ones, as NZ and Australian companies — and Canadian ones due to NAFTA are in this same boat.