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		<title>By: Leanin Leon</title>
		<link>http://maxkeiser.com/2010/01/05/why-was-there-no-canadian-housing-bust/#comment-69270</link>
		<dc:creator>Leanin Leon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 00:19:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Vancouver Real estate market screams foreign investors. I have lived in Vancouver my whole life. I have discussed real estate with analysts in Vancouver which have expressed a large presence of foreign investors. Since i am a plumber in new construction, i have also built houses for countless foreign investors. The real estate market seems to keep climbing, but nothing has happened to the wage. Buying a home in Vancouver is next to impossible unless you have an enormous income, you live rent free for a long period of time, or you have family money. Hopefully the bubble will bust so i can buy a home sometime in my life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Vancouver Real estate market screams foreign investors. I have lived in Vancouver my whole life. I have discussed real estate with analysts in Vancouver which have expressed a large presence of foreign investors. Since i am a plumber in new construction, i have also built houses for countless foreign investors. The real estate market seems to keep climbing, but nothing has happened to the wage. Buying a home in Vancouver is next to impossible unless you have an enormous income, you live rent free for a long period of time, or you have family money. Hopefully the bubble will bust so i can buy a home sometime in my life.</p>
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		<title>By: Grant</title>
		<link>http://maxkeiser.com/2010/01/05/why-was-there-no-canadian-housing-bust/#comment-68637</link>
		<dc:creator>Grant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 18:02:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@DN: That is not a &quot;bailout&quot;. The government is buying INSURED mortgages. If those mortgages had gone into default the banks had nothing to worry either way... they were either getting paid by the people who held them or they were getting paid by the insurance payout from CMHC.

All the government is doing by purchasing them now is freeing up capital in the banks so they can increase lending as a general economic stimulus measure. There is a large difference between stimulus measures and bailouts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@DN: That is not a &#8220;bailout&#8221;. The government is buying INSURED mortgages. If those mortgages had gone into default the banks had nothing to worry either way&#8230; they were either getting paid by the people who held them or they were getting paid by the insurance payout from CMHC.</p>
<p>All the government is doing by purchasing them now is freeing up capital in the banks so they can increase lending as a general economic stimulus measure. There is a large difference between stimulus measures and bailouts.</p>
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		<title>By: SWAG</title>
		<link>http://maxkeiser.com/2010/01/05/why-was-there-no-canadian-housing-bust/#comment-68445</link>
		<dc:creator>SWAG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 10:11:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2009/10/22/BubbleWillBurst/

Listen people... few Canadians realize is that the housing market has avoided collapse (prices are down 32 per cent in the U.S.) because the Harper Conservatives directed the CMHC to change the mortgage rules to effectively make the Canadian government the biggest sub-prime lender in the world. What&#039;s almost as alarming as this reckless policy is that no one in the financial media is talking about it, even though everyone knows the facts. 

I was alerted to the scandal by David Lepoidevin, a financial advisor with National Bank Financial, in a warning letter to his clients.

The facts are that over 90 per cent of existing mortgages in Canada are &quot;securitized.&quot; That is the practice of pooling mortgages (or other assets) and then issuing new securities backed by the pool -- MBSs, or Mortgage Backed Securities. That&#039;s what happened with the sub-prime mortgages in the U.S. which (because the whole pool was so diversified) received triple-A ratings by the rating agencies. Losses around the world amounted to hundred of billions of dollars

This is the ticking time bomb Prime Minister Stephen Harper has tossed at the Canadian taxpayer. Why? So that he can maintain the fiction that he is a good economic manager and win a majority in the next election.

The problem is no opposition political party wants to expose the looming disaster and risk being responsible for a dramatic fall in house prices. As Liberal finance critic John McCallum told The Globe and Mail: &quot;I don&#039;t think we want the government to be rationing Canadian home-buying.&quot; 

The price of political cowardice will be very high. And in the end the housing bubble will burst anyway, putting taxpayers on the hook for tens of billions of dollars in defaulted mortgages.

http://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2009/10/22/BubbleWillBurst/</description>
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<p>Listen people&#8230; few Canadians realize is that the housing market has avoided collapse (prices are down 32 per cent in the U.S.) because the Harper Conservatives directed the CMHC to change the mortgage rules to effectively make the Canadian government the biggest sub-prime lender in the world. What&#8217;s almost as alarming as this reckless policy is that no one in the financial media is talking about it, even though everyone knows the facts. </p>
<p>I was alerted to the scandal by David Lepoidevin, a financial advisor with National Bank Financial, in a warning letter to his clients.</p>
<p>The facts are that over 90 per cent of existing mortgages in Canada are &#8220;securitized.&#8221; That is the practice of pooling mortgages (or other assets) and then issuing new securities backed by the pool &#8212; MBSs, or Mortgage Backed Securities. That&#8217;s what happened with the sub-prime mortgages in the U.S. which (because the whole pool was so diversified) received triple-A ratings by the rating agencies. Losses around the world amounted to hundred of billions of dollars</p>
<p>This is the ticking time bomb Prime Minister Stephen Harper has tossed at the Canadian taxpayer. Why? So that he can maintain the fiction that he is a good economic manager and win a majority in the next election.</p>
<p>The problem is no opposition political party wants to expose the looming disaster and risk being responsible for a dramatic fall in house prices. As Liberal finance critic John McCallum told The Globe and Mail: &#8220;I don&#8217;t think we want the government to be rationing Canadian home-buying.&#8221; </p>
<p>The price of political cowardice will be very high. And in the end the housing bubble will burst anyway, putting taxpayers on the hook for tens of billions of dollars in defaulted mortgages.</p>
<p><a href="http://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2009/10/22/BubbleWillBurst/" rel="nofollow">http://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2009/10/22/BubbleWillBurst/</a></p>
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		<title>By: SWAG</title>
		<link>http://maxkeiser.com/2010/01/05/why-was-there-no-canadian-housing-bust/#comment-68443</link>
		<dc:creator>SWAG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 10:10:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2009/10/22/BubbleWillBurst/

Few Canadians realize is that the housing market has avoided collapse (prices are down 32 per cent in the U.S.) because the Harper Conservatives directed the CMHC to change the mortgage rules to effectively make the Canadian government the biggest sub-prime lender in the world. What&#039;s almost as alarming as this reckless policy is that no one in the financial media is talking about it, even though everyone knows the facts. 

I was alerted to the scandal by David Lepoidevin, a financial advisor with National Bank Financial, in a warning letter to his clients.

The facts are that over 90 per cent of existing mortgages in Canada are &quot;securitized.&quot; That is the practice of pooling mortgages (or other assets) and then issuing new securities backed by the pool -- MBSs, or Mortgage Backed Securities. That&#039;s what happened with the sub-prime mortgages in the U.S. which (because the whole pool was so diversified) received triple-A ratings by the rating agencies. Losses around the world amounted to hundred of billions of dollars

This is the ticking time bomb Prime Minister Stephen Harper has tossed at the Canadian taxpayer. Why? So that he can maintain the fiction that he is a good economic manager and win a majority in the next election.

The problem is no opposition political party wants to expose the looming disaster and risk being responsible for a dramatic fall in house prices. As Liberal finance critic John McCallum told The Globe and Mail: &quot;I don&#039;t think we want the government to be rationing Canadian home-buying.&quot; 

The price of political cowardice will be very high. And in the end the housing bubble will burst anyway, putting taxpayers on the hook for tens of billions of dollars in defaulted mortgages.

http://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2009/10/22/BubbleWillBurst/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2009/10/22/BubbleWillBurst/" rel="nofollow">http://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2009/10/22/BubbleWillBurst/</a></p>
<p>Few Canadians realize is that the housing market has avoided collapse (prices are down 32 per cent in the U.S.) because the Harper Conservatives directed the CMHC to change the mortgage rules to effectively make the Canadian government the biggest sub-prime lender in the world. What&#8217;s almost as alarming as this reckless policy is that no one in the financial media is talking about it, even though everyone knows the facts. </p>
<p>I was alerted to the scandal by David Lepoidevin, a financial advisor with National Bank Financial, in a warning letter to his clients.</p>
<p>The facts are that over 90 per cent of existing mortgages in Canada are &#8220;securitized.&#8221; That is the practice of pooling mortgages (or other assets) and then issuing new securities backed by the pool &#8212; MBSs, or Mortgage Backed Securities. That&#8217;s what happened with the sub-prime mortgages in the U.S. which (because the whole pool was so diversified) received triple-A ratings by the rating agencies. Losses around the world amounted to hundred of billions of dollars</p>
<p>This is the ticking time bomb Prime Minister Stephen Harper has tossed at the Canadian taxpayer. Why? So that he can maintain the fiction that he is a good economic manager and win a majority in the next election.</p>
<p>The problem is no opposition political party wants to expose the looming disaster and risk being responsible for a dramatic fall in house prices. As Liberal finance critic John McCallum told The Globe and Mail: &#8220;I don&#8217;t think we want the government to be rationing Canadian home-buying.&#8221; </p>
<p>The price of political cowardice will be very high. And in the end the housing bubble will burst anyway, putting taxpayers on the hook for tens of billions of dollars in defaulted mortgages.</p>
<p><a href="http://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2009/10/22/BubbleWillBurst/" rel="nofollow">http://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2009/10/22/BubbleWillBurst/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Common Sense</title>
		<link>http://maxkeiser.com/2010/01/05/why-was-there-no-canadian-housing-bust/#comment-68439</link>
		<dc:creator>Common Sense</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 10:04:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t Bank on the Banks

http://www.sprott.com/Docs/MarketsataGlance/11_09%20Dont%20Bank%20on%20the%20Banks.pdf

- skip to page 4 to find out what really happened to Canada&#039;s bank...they&#039;re actually in much worse shape than I thought</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t Bank on the Banks</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sprott.com/Docs/MarketsataGlance/11_09%20Dont%20Bank%20on%20the%20Banks.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.sprott.com/Docs/MarketsataGlance/11_09%20Dont%20Bank%20on%20the%20Banks.pdf</a></p>
<p>- skip to page 4 to find out what really happened to Canada&#8217;s bank&#8230;they&#8217;re actually in much worse shape than I thought</p>
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		<title>By: Jim ODonnell</title>
		<link>http://maxkeiser.com/2010/01/05/why-was-there-no-canadian-housing-bust/#comment-68426</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim ODonnell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 08:34:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My favorite Canadian: Mike From Canmore [RIP]

Comments on the then recent stock market merger of Time Waner &amp; ALO (A-hole).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1GUoQpkr0s</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My favorite Canadian: Mike From Canmore [RIP]</p>
<p>Comments on the then recent stock market merger of Time Waner &amp; ALO (A-hole).</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1GUoQpkr0s" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1GUoQpkr0s</a></p>
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		<title>By: whitemale08</title>
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		<dc:creator>whitemale08</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 07:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fact that Chriss Dodd is going to STEP DOWN...

shows that any politician with their fingerprints found on that stupid TARP bill and bail outs for Goldman Sucks and JP Morgan will be KICKED-OUT-OF-OFFICE!!!!!!

WARN CONGRESS TO STOP ALL BAIL OUTS IMMEDIATELY!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fact that Chriss Dodd is going to STEP DOWN&#8230;</p>
<p>shows that any politician with their fingerprints found on that stupid TARP bill and bail outs for Goldman Sucks and JP Morgan will be KICKED-OUT-OF-OFFICE!!!!!!</p>
<p>WARN CONGRESS TO STOP ALL BAIL OUTS IMMEDIATELY!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Youri Carma</title>
		<link>http://maxkeiser.com/2010/01/05/why-was-there-no-canadian-housing-bust/#comment-68377</link>
		<dc:creator>Youri Carma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 04:48:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Full Report: 2010 AND FINALLY THE CRISES REACHED DUTCH MAIN STREET by Youri Carma http://tinyurl.com/ychwlmh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Full Report: 2010 AND FINALLY THE CRISES REACHED DUTCH MAIN STREET by Youri Carma <a href="http://tinyurl.com/ychwlmh" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/ychwlmh</a></p>
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		<title>By: FranSix</title>
		<link>http://maxkeiser.com/2010/01/05/why-was-there-no-canadian-housing-bust/#comment-68376</link>
		<dc:creator>FranSix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 04:19:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I think its not so much as a price decline in housing at the root of recession, but the lack of available credit to keep housing in turnover.

If you wish to peruse housing in any city in Canada, you can always refer to mls.ca, where they recently upgraded the searching of properties.

You get a very sharp, clear idea of what housing looks like and what it goes for in any particular city.  Its for very certain that urban properties in major centres will retain more value than depressed regions, even though those major urban centres have suffered tremendous economic pullbacks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I think its not so much as a price decline in housing at the root of recession, but the lack of available credit to keep housing in turnover.</p>
<p>If you wish to peruse housing in any city in Canada, you can always refer to mls.ca, where they recently upgraded the searching of properties.</p>
<p>You get a very sharp, clear idea of what housing looks like and what it goes for in any particular city.  Its for very certain that urban properties in major centres will retain more value than depressed regions, even though those major urban centres have suffered tremendous economic pullbacks.</p>
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		<title>By: N in Van</title>
		<link>http://maxkeiser.com/2010/01/05/why-was-there-no-canadian-housing-bust/#comment-68371</link>
		<dc:creator>N in Van</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 03:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think all major Canadian cities are due for a Real Estate bust.  Canada has not escaped the real estate speculation and price inflation that has hit most of the world&#039;s major cities.  This is primarily due to the tiny interest rates set by the Canadian central bank.  Garth Turner, author of &quot;A Greater Fool&quot; has a daily blog that details the current craziness of Real Estate markets in Canada.  You check out his blog at http://www.greaterfool.ca/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think all major Canadian cities are due for a Real Estate bust.  Canada has not escaped the real estate speculation and price inflation that has hit most of the world&#8217;s major cities.  This is primarily due to the tiny interest rates set by the Canadian central bank.  Garth Turner, author of &#8220;A Greater Fool&#8221; has a daily blog that details the current craziness of Real Estate markets in Canada.  You check out his blog at <a href="http://www.greaterfool.ca/" rel="nofollow">http://www.greaterfool.ca/</a></p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
		<link>http://maxkeiser.com/2010/01/05/why-was-there-no-canadian-housing-bust/#comment-68367</link>
		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 02:59:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nothing is over-priced unless no one can afford to buy it.  Vancouver, B.C. median house price far exceeds the median income.  

The truth eventually boils down to the math.  You can continue the charade for a while, through market momentum, but eventually, there has to be an adjustment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing is over-priced unless no one can afford to buy it.  Vancouver, B.C. median house price far exceeds the median income.  </p>
<p>The truth eventually boils down to the math.  You can continue the charade for a while, through market momentum, but eventually, there has to be an adjustment.</p>
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		<title>By: Dusko Jocic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dusko Jocic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 02:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We were luckier to be a little behind the US top in housing. We lowered the interest rates a long time before we reached the top of the market. So we have delayed the reconing a little bit further. But make no mistake things are bad here as our factories pack up and leave Ontario and Canadas heartland.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We were luckier to be a little behind the US top in housing. We lowered the interest rates a long time before we reached the top of the market. So we have delayed the reconing a little bit further. But make no mistake things are bad here as our factories pack up and leave Ontario and Canadas heartland.</p>
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		<title>By: Depression Alert</title>
		<link>http://maxkeiser.com/2010/01/05/why-was-there-no-canadian-housing-bust/#comment-68348</link>
		<dc:creator>Depression Alert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 02:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“The rich ruleth over the poor, and the borrower is servant to the lender” (Proverbs 22:7).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“The rich ruleth over the poor, and the borrower is servant to the lender” (Proverbs 22:7).</p>
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		<title>By: DN</title>
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		<dc:creator>DN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 00:52:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jesse&#039;s link to the Bailout Details in Canada:
http://www.socialistproject.ca/relay/relay25_dasilva.pdf

It maybe a &quot;socialist&quot; source, but the really one of few sources reporting on it in Canada:

&quot;On November 12[2008[, the Department of Finance announced that it would buy up another $50-billion in securities by the end of the fiscal year through the CMHC as part of its Insured Mortgage Purchase Program (IMPP), bringing the total of the programme up to $75-billion. This was justified as part of the government’s efforts to maintain the availability of longer-term credit in Canada. Simultaneously, the government announced that they would indeed “guarantee…more than $200-billion to pay back new loans made to Canadian financial institutions.”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jesse&#8217;s link to the Bailout Details in Canada:<br />
<a href="http://www.socialistproject.ca/relay/relay25_dasilva.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.socialistproject.ca/relay/relay25_dasilva.pdf</a></p>
<p>It maybe a &#8220;socialist&#8221; source, but the really one of few sources reporting on it in Canada:</p>
<p>&#8220;On November 12[2008[, the Department of Finance announced that it would buy up another $50-billion in securities by the end of the fiscal year through the CMHC as part of its Insured Mortgage Purchase Program (IMPP), bringing the total of the programme up to $75-billion. This was justified as part of the government’s efforts to maintain the availability of longer-term credit in Canada. Simultaneously, the government announced that they would indeed “guarantee…more than $200-billion to pay back new loans made to Canadian financial institutions.”</p>
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