Stacy Summary: We cover the Iceland story with an interview of Johannes Skulaso of Indefence and Max re-introduces the Eldridge Cleaver pants for today’s airport experience.
Here are the Eldridge Cleaver pants Max recommends for the modern airport security experience.
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@bonn. just saw that classified video. wow were fucked.
Alex in wonderland.
contingency of goverment?
yay! another show
Iceland should just sit it out/keep opposing payments even if that leads to “exclusion” (from the dictatorship of the EU); they have huge potential for geo thermal energy/self sufficiency. maybe buy some non gmo seeds grow some more food. The gasfields in the Netherlands and Britain have ran out; the budget was for years based on profits made from that, Here in Holland we have over 380 billion euro debt the UK is totally broke and the pound is about to collapse. TThe speculators should just pay their losses/held accountable for financial crimes like fraud, inside trading, tax evasion etc. it isn’t citizen vs. citizen it’s speculators vs. savers/producers. . Iceland doesn’t look so bad from Spain/Greece/UK/Netherlands/US (without any potential/production) I think the police state isn’t so oppressive/more liberty seen the riots when the music stopped playing/the people stood up for their rights beside generally a small population/lots of space to live and a nice landscape.
btw Might as well give those pants a catchier name like; for the youth, extreme pants! guess seen the trend in covering less and less of your body it might catch on, for elderly; cancer prevention pants …. Anyways why not walk in the slave labour camps while you’re at it? the point is privacy rights/protection (if you want to know where its going here’s the start: http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/115736/Sin-bins-for-worst-families ) I think this was some of the less effective campaigns by the black panthers although it was provoking/gets attention.
canadian publishers dumbfounded by what appears to be a book ban on US bound flights. the 13 things allowed on flights.
Does Max have a pair of Eldridge Cleaver pants in his wardrobe?
They are outrageous.
@Danny. bit big for me.LOL
ronron, can you post the video? pg
you can still take fucking guitars on board though.
@pg. article @ whatreallyhappended.com. great crawler.
How bout Iceland take control of the assets of those who profited from the bubble and collapse?
I’d rather focus on the wealth than the robber. If someone breaks into my home and steals my stuff. The state will typically focus on punishing them. I don’t care to see them punished. My primary concern is to get my stuff back. Then we can get into the protect society versus punishment versus thieves are helpless victims of circumstances and the hostile ignoramuses who lack appreciation for their having added liquidity to their furniture.
All this wealth is out there somewhere. We might not always be able to figure out precisely who it should go to. But we should be able to figure out who it doesn’t belong with, and work from there. Yay? Nay?
That’s what bugs me about Bill Gates. He gets to enjoy great wealth from a monopoly that caused and still causes great harm because he’s a good charitable guy now. But it isn’t his money to donate in the first place and the cost to society of the Microsoft tumor is in the trillions and growing.
YEP its all in here RICO !!!!!!
Why do banks have the power to in debt a ordernary person, with wealth he could not access himself or was aware of, nor control, this system is insane, its a bad joke.
Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racketeer_Influenced_and_Corrupt_Organizations_Act
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You would not want to operate machinery in them pants? In Iceland do they come with insulation ?
http://www.colglo.co.uk/product.php?product=INSUL2034&category=21871459
Are these airport scanners powerful enough to see if the gentleman is cut or uncut? Should women only travel on certain dates?
5.4 billion divided by 320 thousand is 16,875. I dunno, was there a currency conversion in there somewhere that yielded the 12,000 quoted? Either way, a hefty bill.
Female version? http://tinyurl.com/ygfshyc
Aha! Found ya’.
Michael Hudson on ABC International
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atfDMasNQE0&feature=related
Think goodness the 1960s were less outrageous in Canada, Australia and NZ. However, it took into the 1970s for the 1960s to culturally reach the UK white colonies. In some ways the delay was a good thing — in that it allowed for the reasonable ideas to come into place … and those seeking those values a place in power. However, most of the results of this cultural revolution have been mixed.
@Mother earth – it’s the only way to travel.
@ ronron @max keiser @ stacey h
Ya better do a small exposey on the classified video for it to get more visibilty cause not all peeeps that hit your site go through all comments like the regulars
or ya might regret it later just through it out there
the more they get exposed less chance of it going foward the Depopulation thingy
Hic
Thanks Max and Stacy for the show!
Keep in mind that the UK got all the taxes from the IceSave deposits.
Here the president is explaining his view on BBC’s NewsNight: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTP3DH5YQhc#t=3m45s
@Bonn. better leave me out of this. i only supply humor and vulgarity. don’t think max and stacy like my style. i like it here so i stay.
12,000 euros to bail oui british ang netherlands pigs.These pigs should know that when you invest in a pyramid scheme, you take your chances. Iceland should say screw you to the IMF, to the UK, to Holland and Europe, this godamn prison indeed. Iceland will be very inspiring to the Greeks.
ron, thanks, pg
@MaxPower. you should have visited rochdale in 69.
@pg. your welcome.
@pg. i prefer geesfuckthanks. haha
The next step. Obama says Al-CIA-aida operating in Iceland. After Yemen, Obanana wants to bomb Iceland because of its important volcano CO2 emitting arms of mass destruction.
Oh well me off to play Poker
Could see only first 13 minutes , the vid aint loading for me will check laters & laters peeps
Hic
Iceland should point out that after the crisis, the UK gov decided that all savers would given all the money that was in their savings accounts.
effectively the UK government changed the rules on the secured ceiling (guaranteed by the FSA) to save it’s own reputation. The maximum Icelanders owe former Icesave account holders is £30k approx. Even then I think it’s only private account holders not Local councils or Companies.
So, even by UK own rules. that total should be much lower.
Marc Faber–how will 2010 pan out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfjj4J6F81g&feature=related
@MarcAuthier. the spooks and provacatiers are in iceland now. bet on it.
@ronron – better leave me out of this. i only supply humor and vulgarity. don’t think max and stacy like my style. i like it here so i stay.
When it comes to discussing airport scanners how can it be anything other than vulgar?
I’d love to hear what Max’n Stacy’s takes are on the ZeroHedge article about the apparent gap between official unemployment numbers and the money actually being paid out in unemployment benefits.
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/government-misrepresenting-unemployment-32
If it isn’t predominantly fraudulent claims being paid to relatively few individuals/corporations, but an actual representation of unemployed people, I find this the most alarming news out there.
Icelandic birds on Facebook:
http://www.facebook.com/people/Eydis-Antonsdottir/714567230
http://is-is.facebook.com/people/Lisa-Maria-Markusdottir/649920626
http://www.facebook.com/people/Hlif-Saevarsdottir/741517085
http://www.facebook.com/people/Halldora-R-Gudmundsdottir/557191219
There is an Icelandic bird that is a friend of Luna Lane that does not have a stereotypical Icelandic name. However, on Facebook she is not.
@sam – that’s true, both the UK and I believe the Netherlands did pay out 100% on the amount in the savings account and there were several with over £100k; the EU guarantee is €20,000 while the UK amount was less than £30k at the time . . .
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@MaxPower. you should have visited Rochdale in 69.
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NZ had its Bastion Point, and plenty of Hekois — but ultimately the 1960s marked a point where NZ was no longer part of the Empire. It will probably be into the 2060s for NZ to fix all of the problems it had foisted on it as being part of the Empire.
Still, for all of Australia’s wage wealth I wonder if NZ will not be the better off place in the long run.
What classified vid, What did i miss?
@MaxPower. you had to mention birds. snoot will be here any minute.
@namarama. back one thread. Bonn post.
Bat shit crazy, man, bat shit crazy.
Oops, I misunderstood the article I posted. Embarrassing. I think I stop posting till I start sleeping again. (sits in corner)
the empire remains, only the name has changed.
I imagine that being scanned and seeing through your clothes will be the final nail in the coffin of airline travel.
@FranSix. follow the short positions.
gold opens in newyork in 8 minutes. thinking up from the getgo?
Amusing ourselves to death!
http://mfc.elmberg.net/files/images/amusing_ourselves_to_death.png
@ronron @pg there’s a correction/retraction on the Globe and Mail site about the books… turns out it was a “misunderstanding”:
“Air security official says books and magazines were always allowed on airplanes, but their exclusion from a list released Dec. 28 caused confusion”
It’s the old “keep ‘em guessing” strategy that the TSA and their ilk like to employ.
gotta run. bye y’all.
@ronron @bonn re: the “classified” video… it’s from the Onion, a satirical site in the US, that achieves great success from only slight changes to reality, like this one, where it looks so real you could easily think it’s true.
http://www.theonion.com/content/onn/landing
Apologies if you already realized this, but I couldn’t tell from your comments.
ron,,,geefucksthanks,,,,,,,,pg
Flexjet was started by former airline executives after the first terrorist incidents in 2001:
http://www.flexjet.com/
You don’t need to be scanned to travel on these biz jets and rarely have to put up with security hassles. Note the cutlery.
The alternative to having low paid resentful security workers look at your gonads I guess would be profiling.
It was only logical for our government to step into the icesave hole. Only the next step, which would be clawing back profits of the big banks is not happening. That is because our dear Wouter Bos still thinks we are heading into recovery. It is all guiltlocked gamblers at the helm. My grandfather used to say: Never trust a banker and cut your losses. He had a good life..
and the dutch central banker is still at his seat. He should be going to jail. Because he failed!
I’m sorry for the icelanders. And I Wouter Bos should have never paid out these people who wanted to get the risk and went abroad with their money.
with all this thermal heat. Iceland can be very profitable at the energy market. They can make a lot of H2 for all most nothing.
@Henk
Icesave clients where not told there was any risk. Only 4% interest. They are not asking for money back, the dutch government is. And Trichet, the central banker that matters is french.
Goldman’s Blankfein says he’s just doing God’s work:
http://davemiller.org/drawings/people/blankfein_gods_work.png
What was the role of the failed securitization markets in the credit freeze during the fall of 2008? Any takes on this?
Seems this is the lynchpin that everyone chooses to ignore, especially concerning is the role of Basel mandates in the future of asset capital flows and securitization. The new regulatory frameworks coming out of Basel Committee and off Draghi’s desk are destroying the old international financial system engines.
Who steps in for the US govt. after Talf?
This is a global issue. Basel is a global issue.
That’s a hefty langer on ould Eldrige, ye don’t get many of them to the pound.
Russia Today is running Max and the Cleaver pants during a segment on US airline security. Now that’s something you won’t see on the Beeb or Fox.
@Does langer translate internationally? Langer means something else down here too. ie.
“Give us that crispy cream donut ya langer!”
….
“Give us that crispy cream donut ya stingy fucker!”
New Corporate Tactics ?
Cellphones may protect brain from Alzheimer’s
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20100107/hl_nm/us_alzheimers_cellphones
OMG .. unbelievable !
Man flies explosives to Dublin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiN3rVXShAg&feature=sub
2 minutes !
@me
You are right nut when interst is higher then everae them there is incerased risk. As easy as that. Wellink is to blame!
@Phil
Yup. unbelievable. All over the news here.
See Chapter 2:
http://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/gfsr/2009/02/pdf/text.pdf
@Danny .. Explosives / Ireland
Makes you wonder if it wasn’t “deliberate”, to increase the Security Budgets !
“Ultimately, the value of securitized products relies on the quality of underlying assets.”
We are screwed.
@Phil Germany.
What’s going on in Ireland with their damn scumbag banksters ? Ireland is a lot like Iceland when you think about it.
The problem is even bigger in Ireland than in Iceland. Are the Irish that sheepish and slaves to their criminal banking gangsters ?
@Snoot: I read Ch2 and it seems like they’re still looking to avoid the fundamental problem… loans have to be based on good risk mgmt. From the conclusion on page 109:
“policies designed to put more securitizer skin in the game also risk closing down parts of securitization markets … schemes that force securitizers to retain some slices of their securitization products can have dramatic effects on the incentives to improve loan screening, in some cases with the unintended effect of making some types of securitization too costly to execute”,
Which sounds like a long way of saying: “if we rate this stuff accurately, no one will buy it”.
“Under Basel II, credit assessments from approved credit rating agencies are used where possible in determining the risk weights assigned to exposures in the calculation of capital requirements. For all credit exposures that are assessed, the risk weight is dependent on the level of the assessment (i.e. the credit rating). Under the standardised approach banks use specific assessment aligned risk weights for exposures to sovereigns and central banks, public sector entities and corporates.
The use of inferred assessments is also permitted in certain circumstances. That is, if a particular exposure is not assessed, the exposure may be treated as if it were assessed if it fits the specified criteria. For example, an inferred assessment can be used on a specific exposure if that claim ranks at least pari passu with another exposure of the same type to the same borrower that is assessed.
Initially, the Reserve Bank will accept the use of credit assessments from the three agencies that it has already approved for other purposes (Standard & Poor’s, Moody’s, and Fitch).”
Same game/same players: forget reform, accept consolidation.
http://www.rbnz.govt.nz/finstab/banking/Regulation/3033311.html
(We get to rely on the same criminal rating agencies to take down the system they enabled. Cool.)
@Phil Germany.
Micro waves are just fantastic for your health, Just kidding. These bastard will say anything. They just have to find a little scientist whore with phoney-baloney and voilà ! It’s like the global warming scam or the supposedly miraculous Prozac’s effects (as good as a placebo coated sugar pill!), By the way the naked scanners use microwaves. Yumm ! Yumm! I am so excited. I want my personalized brain tumor !
@Marc Authier … What’s going on in Ireland with their damn scumbag banksters ? Ireland is a lot like Iceland when you think about it.
AFAIK …
The “Government” said “Yes” ( i.e. not the people ) to the Lisabon Treaty and the EU then agreed to let them hide their debts in a Special Purpose Vehicle ( offshore, into hiding ) so that they would not be TOO indebted within the Euro limits of Maastrich ( which everyone is “over 63% Debt : GDP” now anyway ).
@Marc … Micro waves are just fantastic for your health,
LOL , just posted the same elsewhere !
Hi TzarCaustic:
You read all of Chapter 2!!! Congratulations: you are a lot more savvy than I be. I glean what I can from the scum lying on the top of the pond.
Relying on ratings agencies seems to be the inherent flaw of the whole crisis from beginning to end. The game isn’t to play out fairly.
No one is enabled through ignorance: who has reported on this issue?
Are you a trader?
Excellent interview…excellent show Max!
I wish the mass media in the U.S. would report the news this way.
What Wouter Bos and his English counterpart are doing to Iceland is an act of war, comaprable to what they do to Iranian ships in the Gulf. The threaten to harm the Icelandic economy massively, they block further loans, EU membership (as if you would want that…), etc.
@Marc Authier
I think it’s a bit alarmist to be worrying about microwaves from body scanners, unless perhaps you plan to be spending inordinate amounts of time inside them.
This is interesting: from summer 2007:
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL0585972220070606
Ummm, nice pants…
http://www.lewrockwell.com/schiff/schiff66.1.html
Bernanke lies… yeah no duhh…
Thanks Stacy. perhaps we should set up a negotiation consultancy for bankrupt countries. – Also I think it would be funny if Iceland just offered to pay in Fish, just for the hell of it.
BTW, I’ve also heard that the body scanners cannot be used on children, as they create an impression of a naked child enough to warrant arrest under a law (of which there are UK and EU versions created to tackle computer generated child pornography). while no image is stored, just the fact that someone is looking at a live video, is possibly enough to convict.
yes, it is possible to strip search a child at the moment, but it is out of the day to day role of they minimum wage, high school failure airport security guard.
However, I suspect that there will be some kind of get out clause for them. As with most police-states. One law for us, another for them.
Geithner part of AIG cover-up on bank payments. Geithner implicated in swindle while he ran Fed Reserve Bank of NY.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aXIvW4igKV38
“The Federal Reserve Bank of New York, then led by Timothy Geithner, told American International Group Inc. to withhold details from the public about the bailed-out insurer’s payments to banks during the depths of the financial crisis”
@FrancesSnoot — I have to admit that I only did a quick read … but the overall tone of the chapter seems to be: “the approach was sound, and we just need(ed) to fine-tune the details”. But with current conditions it doesn’t seem like there’s going to be a lot securitization going on anyway, so I wonder which particular crack-pipe these guys are smoking from.
@Marc Authier Micro waves are just fantastic for your health, Just kidding.
cant help but thinking we are all water di-poles now.
The micro-wave oven has been energized … you have no choice as a water di-pole you are forced to align yourself with the electro-magnetic field. Orwell goes sci-fi ? we are water di-proles.
good lord.
All Iceland has to do is to cut of from the so-called “international financial system” and make Iceland a Free Tax haven after which a lot of money will be pooring into the country. Probably a lot of hedge funds too.
Than they will be dealing with the mafia directly instead of indirectly. A lot of people will be traveling to Iceland to check on their “black” or not, money and have a nice vacation. Iceland Airways will be booming.
A Call to the People of the World to Support Iceland Against Financial Blackmail
by Birgitta Jónsdóttir (leader of The Movement)
http://buchanan.org/blog/a-call-to-the-people-of-the-world-to-support-iceland-against-financial-blackmail-3426
@Phil
Recently there was a study that found clear bias in mobile phone industry funded research (no harm) against medically motivated reserch (38% increas in occurance of brain tumors in young people), increas over all age groups anyway. The media have turned into an irresponsible hazard..
@TsarCaustic:
So the same crisis looks to be reenacted when the .govs step aside from blowing on the securitization windmills.
Banks are in survival mode worldwide. The basel mandates are global.
The crisis has only been averted for a time and a time is here.
We should have disbanded Congress before TARP. They are only serving the global banking interests, and we are set to live in the hell they create for our durable lifetime.
@Keiser Report – Markets! Finance! Scandal! – 7 January 2010 – (3/4)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vB_d7-eYgHI&feature=sub
Wasn’t it the old Govt. that “decided” to back the failed banks with public money ?
Why doesn’t the new Govt. just repeal those bad decisions.
I mean , a Bank is just a business … why should they get special rights above other businesses ? .. just tell the shareholders and savers .. bad luck !
I lost a small amount with Bradford&Bingley .. mainly because the UK Broker was so useless, I could not get them to do anything with my shares** … glad they’ve ( the shares ) gone !
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I owned shares since 2001 but was never resident in the UK.
They kept telling me that because I was not a UK resident , they could not “deal” for me !
Useless Co. !
@Stacy, Over a hundred years in the 18th Cent? Neat trick that.
@Mother …The media have turned into an irresponsible hazard.
100% !
Of course , the so-called Media is “owned” by Corporations … maybe one should BAN that !
@ Mother Earth
mobile phone = cigarettes of our day ?
But how same? We are now 12 T in the hole and counting: the dismantling of the system feeds into the common’s man’s avaricious ignorance: we soon enter hell.
Profligate words reign: melded by those in power.
All Iceland has to do is to cut of from the so-called “international financial system”
@Youri:
This isn’t an option anymore. The point being is that there is no opting out.
@Danny – we’re interviewing that woman next week as a follow up to this . . .
http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/content/jan2010/db2010017_529176.htm
@Stacy
Nice one!
Iceland’s foreign minister said on Thursday he had been assured by British Foreign Secretary David Miliband that a presidential rejection of the so-called Icesave bill would not torpedo Iceland’s EU bid.
From: Iceland says gets UK assurance on EU bid 7 January 2010 (Reuters) http://tinyurl.com/yft72r9
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSSAT00828920100107
@Stacy what’s happening with the “The Truth about…” shows? It’s been a while.
33 Conspiracy Theories That Turned Out To Be True, What Every Person Should Know…
http://www.newworldorderreport.com/Articles/tabid/266/ID/980/33-Conspiracy-Theories-That-Turned-Out-To-Be-True-What-Every-Person-Should-Know.aspx
Little “TIMMY” is getting LEATHERED on Bloomberg!
Mike
Some through congressional hearings, others through investigative journalism.
Phil: The man cites these agents as truth-champions.
HAHAHAHAHA
The statis quo flips truth like pancakes. It depends on what sells at the time.
@33 Conspiracy Theories That Turned Out To Be True, What Every Person Should Know…
CIA/FBI etc… Wow … #9 , #10 & #11 … and they are still in business ?
#9 reminds me of something !
Little Timmy is the sitting governor of the IMF bank for ‘America’. America is getting leathered, not Tim Geithththther. He gets a promotion.
It’s interesting…a world class power, the United States can be thrown into a HUGE controversy becuase some idiot stashed explosives in his undies. Not to downplay its significance, but is a threat like this-eight years after 9/11– the best that world terrorism has to offer? If you are keeping score, here it is: “Fruit of the Loom” bomber: 1, US: 0.
@Paolo sad, but true, in actual fact, the terrorists have already won — they now control the agenda
@Youri Carma, If Iceland becomes like the Cayman Islands, the UK will bail them out.
@Paolo — and maybe the right question is: “but who are the terrorists, exactly?”
@Man from Glad if Iceland becomes the new Caymans, look for GS to ramp up operations there to take advantage of “changes in geographic earnings mix” http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601110&sid=a6bQVsZS2_18
” The latter was 2009’s global innovation known as “quantitative easing,” where central banks and fiscal agents bought Treasuries, Gilts, and Euroland corporate “covered” bonds approaching two trillion dollars. It was the least understood, most surreptitious government bailout of all, far exceeding the U.S. TARP in magnitude.”
Euroland corporate covered bonds???
http://www.pimco.com/LeftNav/Featured+Market+Commentary/IO/2010/Let’s+Get+Fisical+January+2010.htm
“So if something can’t keep going, it stops – to paraphrase Herbert Stein – and 2010 will likely witness an attempted exit by the Fed at the end of March, and perhaps even the BOE later in the year.”
MARCH???
MARCH!!!!!
Time to get out of the USA.
@ Danny
The new list for bilderberger 2010 includes two Paddies.
Guess who.
http://www.federaljack.com/?p=13464
Another freakin 12,500 years will pass Archeologists will be wondering why we were sitting on a table apparently doing something they call it writing not the fact it might have been the Internet
CLASSIFIED
And Again the Sages from India will have to write all the crap on palm leaves like the Vedas while simultaneously using them as toilet leaves lololol cause tissue wont be available.
Just like the Mohanjadaro ruins where apparently two people see a mountain explode
And decide to hold hands-“ No Honey theres no need to try and run we have 0.00001 % chance of surviving , here hold my hand, lets watch this spectacle !!! ” lolololol never mind the fact that an advanced civilization with sewages Decided to build a City near a active Volcano apparently hic lol Kinda reminds me of the Hawians
And George Carlins comments on em.
That freakin Planet Nibiru keeps throwing a Spanner into my theory lololol Ahh got it should search for underground bunkers (along with nice grouping of craters posted earlier to which I got a Peter Schiff like response “that’s complete nonsense” ) that would kick Nibiru’s ass.
Hic
LOLOLOLOL
Eldridge Cleaver?
Talk about old skool!
Soul on ice, baby or is it Soul in my pants?
More on Russia’s new oil pipeline
Did A New Pipeline Just Make Russia The Most Important Energy Superpower By Far?
http://www.businessinsider.com/why-russia-is-about-to-change-the-world-2010-1
LOLLOLOLOL
Me of ta poker was having net difficulties did type that in word
Bye y’all
@namarama
Why would they have it again in Greece after last year when Bildeburger effectively entered the main stream media? I’m that chap from the telegraph that was harassed.
Sutherland and Gleeson is it. Couldn’t find two bigger swines.
Correction: “I’m refering to that chap…”
The financial crash in Iceland in 6 minutes according to ABC´s 20/20 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X35R_3ZN-t8
@Stacy
Still got those little packets you’ve been collecting. Alright, lets hear you say told ya so!
Sugar production down, prices at 20 year high
http://digitaljournal.com/article/285156
Tsar Caustic
@ronron @bonn re: the “classified” video… it’s from the Onion, a satirical site in the US, that
Did ja google the resolution
or ya shooting from the hip
Cause now me gonna check
N what I gotta learn to lip read now
During 1:17
he say oh Jesus
Does any fucker write scripts like that
Plz show me
You the one brainwashed
Now gonna get real loud
U freakin not seen what these guys doin in Afrika
Why are ya being so naive
This pisses me off
Hello I am trying to save your arse being in a 3rd world country
Now I’m off to poker
Why doesn’t Iceland pull a Ecuador? http://tinyurl.com/yab7xys
@Paolo.
The government and corporate America are the real terrorists.
Is there a some Off place I get get the moment of minutes to parallely check like it happens in court cases
I know Our Govt. does it
Hic
were all pretty busy so look out Lebanon.
Banks have the same behavior like before so BIS in Basel decided to have a meeting with the banksters. http://lanle.wordpress.com/2010/01/07/top-banks-invited-to-basel-risk-talks/
BIS Working paper: http://www.bis.org/publ/work295.htm
Banks face brush with Basel, after return to old ways 7 January 2010 (Telegraph.UK) http://tinyurl.com/y8uy8y9
Tsar Caustic. bonn’s post was no onion. now ya gone and pissed him off.
Hi @bonn
not sure what you were trying to me there, but here’s the link to the original video.
http://www.theonion.com/content/video/proposed_classified_bill_will
The writers at the Onion are brilliant at coming up with things that are extremely believable by just slightly twisting what’s going on. The worrying thing about this video is that it *is* completely believable.
@ Tsar Caustic
N if ya so confident take the original H1 N1 Flu shot
Plz rootin far ya go ahead
@YouriCarma. snoot was on about Basil. she’s pretty smart. interesting.
@ Tsar Caustic
Will follow ya links
But me poker is more Important now
Catch ya later
@Tsar Caustic, So what is Iceland waiting for?
@ronron
Yep, snoot is our SDR & BIS BASEL specialist.
Good starting course on BIS BASEL: Banking with Hitler http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YauM5dHLn1s
This show was a real pick-me-up after work today. Strange because current affairs tend to get me down – not to mention the Guardian’s pro-body scanner take.
As Eldridge Cleaver once said, “all the gods are dead except the god of war.”
@bonn…. re: H1N1… NO THANK YOU
Anyway, I already had the swine flu, in November… it wasn’t all that bad.
Just google HR8791 and “Rep John Haller”. This one caught out a lot of people a couple of years ago. I’m trying to find out what the original footage is that they overdubbed, but no luck yet.
A last point can anybody plz fill in the Rothchilds siding both sides of all wars or do I gotta do it all over again
I am tired
Young but but I wanna play Poker I’m on me 4 th Large
Plus haven’t had Sex in a year so
Plz some one enlighten someone
Poker is all I got for the time being
LOLOLolololol
Hic
Laters checking after 3 to 12 hrs now
Was probably argueing with an American
Dunno Don’t care
Hic
some on supply right here would be nice.
moma needs a new pair of shoes.
@Man from Glad – re Iceland, according to @Youri’s 20/20 video they’ve come to their sense and gone back to catching Herring. Me, I’m cleaning off my anvil and going back to blacksmithing. Honest trades are the wave of the future.
some on supply right here would be nice.
moma needs a new pair of shoes.
or maybe
some supply right here would be nice
momma needs a new pair of shoes.
maybe I have gambling problem.
@Bonn. duped by the onion. lol
@Bonn
If your good at poker I advice you to invite some chicks and play the Strip-Poker variant (It’s your only change) http://www.metacafe.com/watch/757342/strip_poker/
drop a feather on it …
lack of demand …where is supply ?
Yep, snoot is our SDR & BIS BASEL specialist.
Actually, no, I think there are others with more understanding. I just like to hear the meat cryout when I stab it with a fork.
@Tsar Caustic, So the smart choice, for Iceland, is that between economic piracy and aquaculture.
you guys are 6 minutes in the future from where I am according to the time stamps on messages. you are closer to the big bang ? are you even in this solar system ?
@Youri:
What about ‘pro-cyclical’ concerns over Basel 2?
“Weder di Mauro says the new Basel II capital adequacy standards for banks will need to be monitored carefully (see Box 2). “If Basel II incorporates risk management systems that respond to prices and ratings and which change in cycles, then in theory it could increase procyclicality. But the real question in my view is empirical: Are capital regulations binding or is economic capital of banks the binding constraint? And if regulatory capital is actually binding, what is the size of the effect on lending?”"
http://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/fandd/2008/09/people.htm
Your Guarding article link completely ignores the adverse affects of Basel on securitization and bank lending practices (not to mention credit freezes).
oops I meant Telegraph article
@ManFromGlad these days investing in food (fishing/aquaculture/etc) seems very prudent.
Top banks invited to Basel risk talks 6 January 2010 (The Financial Times) http://tinyurl.com/ycu289s
Watch Vid: http://tinyurl.com/ybj2ly3
@Youri Carma, Superficially, it’s a gangland war between the clan behind the BoE/Fed and the German and French branches of the Rothschilds. BRIC wins, either way.
@Tsar Caustic, My grandmother was Icelandic. As I heard the Icelandic ambassador to Chicago say once, Iceland’s attitude toward the EU can be summed up in one four-letter word, “Fish!”
What the Icelanders should do is sharpen their war axes, get their berserkers ready, Put on those horned helmets, man the dragon ships and sally forth to rape and pillage. A good start will be the City followed by Wall street. Lets see if those that do Gods work can cope
@GGees, People tend to forget that the Viking sphere of influence was based on trade. Becoming economic pirates might be more in keeping with Iceland’s heritage.
top pickers nightmare.
the gap away down and reversal is strength after weakness .. but needs to hold the highs on the daily. was looking to my eyes as a ST of an up thrust.
but not any more …. is starting to look like lack of supply into resistance and about to breakout leading to ease of movement.
dang … I should quit fighting the fed.
hmmmmm. back to my real job
glad snoots here, helps me understand ecomics.
just don’t understand how the ecomics get away with it.
Breaking News: NY Fed told AIG to Withhold Swap Info from Public
WASHINGTON – The Federal Reserve Bank of New York (then led by Geithner) pressed American International Group Inc. to withhold from the public the details of controversial deals that funneled billions in bailout money to Goldman Sachs and other banks.
E-mails show lawyers representing …..
…
…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBshsF-a-T4&feature=sub
@GGees
Can I join GGees ? I have Normand ancesters somewhere in the genealogy. Guillaume le Conquérant raids the City. What a great headline It would make in Rupert Murdoch’s scumbag newspapers. I am for it. Maybe we could use Pirate My film to finance the Viking/Normand raid ?
@frances snoot
It is good you repeat the question cause I noticed it but was actually still thinking about it cause it’s an important one.
Former CEO of Dutch Rabobank Mr Heemskerk said that banks have less possibilities to lend because the whole securitization business was destroyed by the crises. So only on that fact credit became more tight cause banks don’t trust each other on these products anymore. Especially now we know that triple AAA was fraudulently stamped on garbage.
Problem is that the opaque non-transparent way of securitization caused this crises so what to do? First lesson is that you can’t let the fox guard the hen house. A cliché but clichés hold the truth and it’s not difficult to see. Central banks suppose to control and guard this but didn’t do anything. Question is, why not?
Problem is that the parliamentary governments don’t have enough economical knowledge to fill that gap maybe they should though Central banks should have done their work much more properly cause they suppose to be that part of the gov..The MSM is dead cause otherwise they would have been the canary in the coal mine and they weren’t.
So, it’s a rather hopeless situation even more so in the U.S. were democracy has long gone and corruption has become a normal thing cause the whole system is based on company payments and lobbyists for getting elected anyways. You only have to look at all the lobbyists in the Obama team to know that this is true.
But also the European and Dutch government is under heavy influence of well payed lobbyists from Shell and like and the people in that government are to stupid to counter it with their own knowledge. And money talks often to loud unfortunately.
Somehow the real scientist are not heard at all. That’s maybe because they are serious scientists and no lobbyists but they should consider their minimized role in todays politics and maybe should join in an effort to get some lobbyists in there cause that’s how todays game is played.
Banks suppose to grease the main street economy but it isn’t attractive at all to lend to main street cause there’s more risk involved, in their opinion, than in the Banking Casino world of hedging and derivatives which gets bailed out all the time. It’s there it went wrong we all know by now.
The bad big banks should have been nationalized immediately after Lehman after which the “Tulp Mania” solution would have prevented the big taxpayers cash to banks shuffle. Now we are even into deeper waters and it all has become ridiculous with complete countries defaulting and more stormy weather ahead.
You can have a lot of “binding regulations” but if the authorities responsible for acting upon it do nothing, more regulation won’t help that. In fact the regulation which was in place worked just fine but was set a side and nothing has been done to bring it back.
If I didn’t answer your question completely please ask the question again or maybe rephrase it a bit.
Digest.. THIS!
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/tim-geithner-protects-america-itself-forcing-elimination-material-aig-disclosure
@Mongo .. posted already !
“”Breaking News: NY Fed told AIG to Withhold Swap Info from Public”"
Steve Keen on Front page of German FAZ …
Im Gespräch: Steve Keen
„Wir sind in der größten Finanzblase aller Zeiten“
http://www.faz.net/s/RubF3F7C1F630AE4F8D8326AC2A80BDBBDE/Doc~EE812E98924024354BC1DDBD34A5406C4~ATpl~Ecommon~Sspezial.html
Well done !
Moody’s ‘axe blow’ to rating on Spanish debts
The debt crisis sweeping southern Europe has deepened after US credit-rating agency Moody’s downgraded €112bn (£100m) of Spanish mortgage debt and slashed the ratings of Catalunia and a raft of regions with ballooning state deficits.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financetopics/financialcrisis/6835711/Moodys-axe-blow-to-rating-on-Spanish-debts.html
@Phil, Yeah but it breaks sometimes.. for some strange reason.
Sniff lost all me chips at poker again down to zero
Hic
Goddammit
still pissed of wit Tsar challengin mua
Hellooooooooooooooooo they want a third world war can ya see the signs
They make Billions of dollars on supplyin arms
Or for that we have ta go to Onion rings
dot com ta tell us what ta do
Get real
Hic
ron ron ya got me back
lol
but pritty sure everyone got me back on tis
Hic
Geithner’s Fed Told AIG to Limit Swaps Disclosure 7 January 2010 (Bloomberg) http://tinyurl.com/yjlz98e
NY Fed told AIG to Withhold Swap Info from Public (CNBC) Vid http://tinyurl.com/y9p5t5g
@Bonn your covered. we gonna have ww3 for sure. the onion thing. no biggy. think north america get hers this time. i live there. doh.
@Bonn – sorry to hear about your chips, and don’t worry, even tho that particular video was a hoax, the governments are hard at work doing lots of other things to be pissed about.
@Bonn. the isreali’s are fucking with Lebanon as we speak. damaskus is pissed.
Re: Blackwater/Xe: Paul Bremer, writer of the Iraqi constitution, issued the decree Order 17 in 2004. Order 17 granted blanket immunity to private contractors working for the US in Iraq, barring the Iraqi gov’t from prosecuting contractor crimes in domestic courts.
German November Retail Sales Unexpectedly Decline http://tinyurl.com/yfzrc3e
@Bonn, china told the US to go blow smoke out it’s ass. iran are tough mothers from what i hear.
@ ronron
Hic cool
Snoot and Youri plz if ya dont mind me shoot some
nonsence ta tis dude
Or I gotta Explain how Bush Senior was in charge of JFK senior
And how JFK junior was done by Bush junior
Leaving Prescot Bush
shakin hands wit Hitler
Hic
permanent members gonna get dismembered.
sorry to hear about your chips, and don’t worry, even tho that particular video was a hoax, the governments are hard at work doing lots of other things to be pissed about.
Ooooooooooooooo hhhhh
getting more angry now
Hic :-/
Gonna start using foul Language now
Show me the transcripts mate
R u CIA / FBI
you the onion rings fellow
Show me the official transcripsts ten
don’t like the look of that backslash.
You Bahen choote they wanna make every one slaves
and enjoy stem cell research
to live till 180 read your Bible
Why did Georgy boy curtail Stem cell research
China said fuk u we going ahead
Hic
Luckyly sometime the thought of money motivates the unknowns
BUT NOT THE RULING CLASS THEY ALWAYS HAD MONEY THEY WILL ALWAYS TOO
BUT IF THEY GONNA DEPOPULATE US
MATE I HAVE A PROBLEM THERE !!!!!!!111
Personal Bankruptcy Filings Rising Fast 5 January 2010 (The Wall Street Journal) http://tinyurl.com/ybld8co
FOMC Debates Asset Purchases, Inflation as Economy Strengthens 7 January 2010 (Bloomberg) http://tinyurl.com/yk4k562
Hoenig Says Fed Should Eventually Lift Main Rate to 3.5%-4.5% 7 January 2010 (Bloomberg) http://tinyurl.com/y9vzknk
Be aware that the ruling class arn’t religious but Athiests
They order Drones and what we see is Arnold squash your nikker in movies
Oooo getting more angry now
PS@Breaking News: NY Fed told AIG to Withhold Swap Info from Public
Did anyone bother to listen ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBshsF-a-T4&feature=sub
CNBC !
… as opposed to the claims at the ZH link that MSM is NOT reporting this !
Is this the end of Geithner ( as it’s now on CNBC ) ?
CNBC Talking Heads : “Whether or not there is a direct link to Geither ?”
( implying “NOT” ) !
LOL !
Hic
Tsar the onion ring bugger
Bonn an Inside Job 9/11
Jan 7, 2010 at 1:24 pm
Hic
Tsar the onion ring bugger
Your comment is awaiting moderation.
@ Max
I aint gonna stop
plus remember me a comp wizz too
@Phil/Germany.the MSM covering timmy’s ass is all i see. the rest is history my boy. as they say.
More video about Geithner/AIG from Bloomberg raising the possibility of securities law violations, but saying there’s no direct implication of Geithner.
I think men should just wear kilts!
Remember Braveheart?
oops… forgot link…. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0tjvH_bMHQ
Cold snap spurs power rationing in China 6 January 2010 (Reuters) http://tinyurl.com/y9agtvq
States prepare for second Arctic Blast 6 January 2010 (CNN) http://tinyurl.com/ybpxqm5
@Snoot. did the onion run this with the original transcript cause they couldn’t make it anymore unreal? don’t stick a fork in me.
3I almost vommitted hearing the secound half max Keiser
320,000 idiots they diserve what they get
Bahe chode
fuck em I dont care
Trust me me anger is built on showin ya guys whats really goin on
It requires a 3rd world country guy idiot ta show ya guys the truth
wheres that ONION FUCKER
And te best part is theve dicided us as slaves
LOL freemason against Freemasons
Are Banks planning to raise interest rates unexpectedly?
U.S. regulators including the Federal Reserve warned banks to guard against possible losses from an end to low interest rates and reduce exposure or raise capital if needed.
The regulators told banks to run stress tests with scenarios including “instantaneous and significant changes” in rates and “substantial changes in rates over time,” including shifts of as much as 4 percentage points.
U.S. Warns Banks to Guard Against Rate-Rise Risks 7 January 2010 (Bloomberg) http://tinyurl.com/ydwku5l
Chinese Decision on Rates Seen as ‘Turning Point’ 8? January 2010 (The New York Times) http://tinyurl.com/yebd3wg
Hoenig Says Fed Should Eventually Lift Main Rate to 3.5%-4.5% 7 January 2010 (Bloomberg) http://tinyurl.com/y9vzknk
After thier Depopulation DRIVE
they gonna intro free energy
@Youri:
Quite a long and excellent answer: I’m rereading it.
You’re right about the ‘transfer’ and the banks.
We are about to do round two of the self-same dinner bell.
This time US is going down. The question is what spin of tales will accompany the sinking ship?
Rats jumped off and are playing lawn tennis in New Zealand.
I see China being reigned in by their central bank: the hope was a domestic free market there, but that ain’t happening. We depend on imports for almost everything.
We’ve been living on a dinner of hot air over here since the mid-nineties. People going to wake up to nothing.
@YouriKarma. that would put mortgage rates an 9%?
Here is what an airport body scanner image and 30 seconds with some imagery software gets you:
http://wp.me/pACu2-6R
Welcome to the new porn industry: Airport Porn!
there still huffin and puffin over at the post about the move your money thing. thought max was hooked up with the post. forgot to send the memo. don’ know?
@Y’all
er… BABE… BABE… that tyres nearly finished burning… yeah bring up another… cancer don’t be silly… we’re burning em not smoking em… NO… I’m busy… YEAH on the laptop… looking for some gold jabber from the the bottom 99.9%… Yo BABE… remember on the resonance site before they had comments on here there was a couple of guys that used to discuss gold… er… deep… really long debates… YEAH them… YEAH made max almost sound pedestrian… r’member… oh what were there names… BABE… BABE… them blokes on the old site… what was they called… YEAH… on the old site… NO… don’t remember either… I was just wonderin… No tyres BABE… shit… NO… I burnt all the old xmas trees I collected… yeah I know they didn’t give off much heat… SHIT… I was gonna cook the last of them frozen sparrows before they start to go off!!!
@SG:
THE POOR LITTLE BITTY SPARROWS
Everyone that is not a terrorist should show up to the airport naked. Make it easy to spot the bad guys. Little nippy though.
@snoot everyone should just stay home instead… tell them to take their TSA and …. scan it …
Ya, kilts would be great!
@ronron
Impossible indeed but the MTF’s deny inflation while they know it’s there. That’s why they get into panic mode now and suddenly start talking about raising rates but they can’t. The economy is still imploding.
@ Yourikarma.
re. Hitler/BIS vid,Thanx, very informative.
keep em comin.
@Everyone that is not a terrorist should show up to the airport naked. Make it easy to spot the bad guys. Little nippy though.
I am with you with transparency everywhere. Maybe next decade will make the 60s look like the 50s?
@Chalcedonite
Talkin about kilts. Enjoyed this Vid which was posted before here (have forgotten who?) Carry on up the khyber best bits http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8atKXFZefA
@YouriCarma. was thinking that but like other angles.
@YouriCarma. your lucky bonn fucked off. LOL
@snoot
being naked is not allowed … out and about naked you get booked with indecent exposure and get on a sex offender list
@Skippy:
We need to convince everyone it is a Good Idea. Then, en-masse we protest en-buffe. They won’t arrest a naked mob. It would be too intimidating!
@Snoot can we wait till spring?
I wonder how long before someone develops a fibre that is translucent to these milimeter wave machines…. so your clothing can no longer be seen through
The total number of people collecting unemployment benefits of any kind, including extended federal benefits but not seasonally adjusted, rose by 518,100 in the week of Dec. 19 to a record 10.6 million, according to MarketWatch’s calculations.
From: Jobless claims edge up 1,000 to 434,000 7 January 2010 (MarketWatch) http://tinyurl.com/ykal68o
@ronron:
You must be willing to freeze your balls off for a Good Cause.
Choose: Exposed by the TSA or by the Elements.
Keep a stiff upper lip!
gas supply’s turned off at british factories due to shortage. just in
@Snoot. and all that. when do we go?
…The financial regulators1 are issuing this advisory to remind institutions of supervisory expectations regarding sound practices for managing interest rate risk (IRR). In the current environment of historically low short-term interest rates, it is important for institutions to have robust processes for measuring and, where necessary, mitigating their exposure to potential increases in interest rates….
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/here-we-go
men hang better in the summer. gonna be embarasing. LOL
Kansas City Fed’s Hoenig calls for sharp rate hikes, STARTING SOON 7 January 2010 (MarketWatch) http://tinyurl.com/yb9bbey
Banks planning to raise interest rates unexpectedly? http://tinyurl.com/ydqwpj6
@ Danny,
Yes. The Business Insider story is oddly sourced from The Trumpet, a Christian evangelist site. Their report drifts off into the Book of Daniel.
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Its other source is this story warning of the west losing an energy trade war in The Telegraph. The point being:
A non-western view from Asia Times Online. The maps are beautiful too:
Jan 8, 2010
Russia, China, Iran redraw energy map
By M K Bhadrakumar
… The event sends strong messages for regional security. Within the space of three weeks, Turkmenistan has committed its entire gas exports to China, Russia and Iran. It has no urgent need of the pipelines that the United States and the European Union have been advancing. Are we hearing the faint notes of a Russia-China-Iran symphony?
…We are witnessing a new pattern of energy cooperation at the regional level that dispenses with Big Oil. Russia traditionally takes the lead. China and Iran follow the example. Russia, Iran and Turkmenistan hold respectively the world’s largest, second-largest and fourth-largest gas reserves. And China will be consumer par excellence in this century. The matter is of profound consequence to the US global strategy.
… The United States’ pipeline diplomacy in the Caspian, which strove to bypass Russia, elbow out China and isolate Iran, has foundered.
To be sure, 2009 proved to be a momentous year for the “energy war”. The Chinese pipeline inaugurated by President Hu Jintao on December 14; the oil terminal near the port city of Nakhodka in Russia’s far east inaugurated by Prime Minister Vladimir Putin on December 27 (which will be served by the mammoth $22-billion oil pipeline from the new fields in eastern Siberia leading to China and the Asia-Pacific markets); and the Iranian pipeline inaugurated by Ahmadinejad on January 6 – the energy map of Eurasia and the Caspian has been virtually redrawn.
The year 2010 begins on a fascinating new note: will Russia, China and Iran coordinate future moves or at least harmonize their competing interests?
While the US-UK were seeking to grasp Iraq as a oil well, Afghanistan as a barrier to piping it east, and Georgia as a preferred pipeline route west … Russia, China and Iran have used quiet diplomacy to work around the obstacles they’ve been confronted with.
This is the new ‘Great Game’ for Central Asia. This is the subtext to Tony Blair’s call to arms at the ‘Los Angeles World Affairs Council’ back in 2006. That was against a largely phantom enemy of radical Islam, but really with an eye on Russia, China, [Iran] and India:
Beneath the deceit and self-delusion, that speech is about the most comprehensive rationale for the ‘War on Terror’ that’s been presented to the public by those conducting the war.
@YouriKarma. you from kansas?
whoops, Bhadrakumar’s article ends “…harmonize their competing interests?”
“While the US-UK were seeking to grasp Iraq…” and so on, is my comment.
@HarryW. and it was just announced that englands factories gas is off due to shortages. wow. they don’t need no stinking pipeline. bwaaaahahaha.
@Snoot. i got lost in the shuffle at the fight today. still think bonn’s right bout depop and ww3. onion?
@ frances – Maybe Imrov Everywhere could help organize naked protests. ;-p
oops, that was ImProv Everywhere.
@Snoot. just like before. the same money on both sides.
@Snoot. i bought you a fucking pony.
@Harry w
That is what I’m driving at – and you broke it down excellently there. The US’s primary geopolitical strategy is the strangling of energy supplies to China, by encircling Russia and setting off wars/proxy wars in an attempt to destabilise the entire region. Peaceful economic co-operation between emerging nations is not allowed – the barbarians must be kept from coming together.
We see the US moving to the doors of Veneuzela in Columbia, we see the ‘enduring’ emabassy in Iraq, the Ughur fiasco, destabilising Pakistan, a traditional ally of China and now Yemen.
The events of Christmas Day are a deliberate demonisation of Yemen (and Nigeria where the boy is from; coincedentally Nigeria has oil) as a pretext to invade or use 4th generation warfare to control the Strait of Bab el-Mandab, a primary chokepoint of oil shipping.
It is energy wars.
I hadn’t heard that. By contrast to the continental states, the UK system, fully privatised, hasn’t invested in storage capacity and is run to generate immediate profit before ensuring consistent supply. [In the comments, similar problems, on a smaller scale, are reported in southern France.]
Energy security questioned as National Grid cuts off gas to factories
Exclusive: Severe weather and creaking power infrastructure lead to first tangible sign that fears over energy shortages are translating into supply disruption
Terry Macalister, energy editor
guardian.co.uk, Thursday 7 January 2010 14.04 GMT
I heard they found an airplane at 35.000 feet, frozen in place..
@harry_w. i hadn’t heard that about the gas shortages a the british factories.
@ ronron,
But you told me!
Anyway I’m missing Celebrity Big Brother. Heidi Fleiss ftw! Hopefully she kills Stephen Baldwin along the way.
P
Denninger …
Here It Comes (You Were Just Warned Folks)
http://market-ticker.denninger.net/archives/1826-Here-It-Comes-You-Were-Just-Warned-Folks.html
Who needs industry anyways in the UK, Cool. Less CO2 but plenty of poverty and unemployment. I love this news. Perfect for a greenie. Another great reason to move to China and India. No natural gas and no coal. I propose to transform the kingdumb into a mediaval times. Great !
I’ll take 2 pairs of Cleaver Jeans, please…
One pair for the pervs on the way out,
and 1 pair for when I go in…
I can change them mid-flight
Oh, and could I get them in different colours ?
(i.e. Blue on Black & Black on White…)
Blackwater & Goldmung Sucks
Sounds like they’re both
Equivalent Fucks
Kenyan investment…
Somalian Pirate Booty
becoming an attestant.
to the fact that
sometimes crime pays
unless you put the cash in a bank
Like the one called ICESAVE
By The Way
http://www.invgr.com/bjorgolfur_thor_bjorgolfsson.htm
Oh. Ronron, I don’t fly. But I’m not stopping The Movement by my non-participatory stance. I am truly with y’all in spirit. I’ll send cookies.
tell ya something for nothing. the power behind this move your money thing bothers me. it was brought up months ago and the pitfalls were obvious. all these fucking dupes paying fees and running around. fucking dupes. 2 fucking grand?
@Snoot good. haha
the guy who moved his 2 fucking grand now has 1920.00. fucking dupes.
and the same fuckers got the money back on there fucking hard drive. fucking dupes.
Experts: Critical loophole in Senate health bill – Would allow insurers to raise premiums for those not in wellness programs http://tinyurl.com/ydnugng
sorry. everybody got a fucking toaster.
20 people won a fucking guitar.
ohhh baby, frisk me, frisk me,…….
Leave my DNA alone. !!!!
Brits hit by “Global Cooling” JPG http://tinyurl.com/yhrnkw2
@Ronron
Have you ever played a musical instrument in front of a Liquor Store before?
Seriously…
@Snoot. sorry to cut you short. i was in a rage. you like the new pony?
@Y’all
Yeah… watch it online… No I sold the tv… I told you we got the internet… get cozy… fuck it throw anutha of those first editions on the Fire… we don’t need em… YEAH… can read em online… YEAH PEOPLE… READ EM ONLINE NOW… is that sparrow cooked enough… food from the shops… No… all that stuff it’s just designed to give you cancer… yeah Cancer jumping straight down your throat… dunno why… they put stuff in the baby milk?… and something about pink shit… Yeah I’m reading about it now… just eat ya sparrow… you don’t wanna end like one of those models… or that skinny bird on the billboards… No I’m not going out again… there aint no more xmas trees… it’s not like in the past… all theses single people they don’t like celebrating xmas… don’t buy trees… anyway I told ya I’m not going out.. I got two tyres left to burn… yeah… it’s warm I got the internet… and a couple of sparrows on a stick left… I got maxkeiser.com… it’s cold outside… and dirty… plus all those crazios… YO… TURN THAT TV OFF NOW AND GO TO SLEEP YOU GOTTA GET UP FOR SCHOOL IN THE MORNIN’… huh… watching all those music videos… illuminati propaganda that’s all they are… kids today don’t know nuthin!!!
Brown gets Purple JPG LOL http://tinyurl.com/y994fkw
@Guiseppi. no but got a strat. you wanna buy a fucking guitar.
@SG. your kind of a different cadet.
My Poor Gold!
BTW Japan sez she wants a cheaper Yen.
Mike
@ronron
Kansas? They wish …..I am from good ol shit hole (loads of cow shit) Holland land were nobody knows a thing or zero.
Is that an ol strat you’ve got yourself there, with the little neck?
I’ve got myself the cheapest Yamaha for beginners but mostly I pingel (wouldn’t call it playing) on my Korg N5EX synth what a great delight that instrument brought me. Love the sounds mostly New age but some nice Hammond too.
@Mike/Liverpool. can ya just hold on a little longer?LOL
@ronron:
SG sounds like Stephen King embellishing a Dickens novel.
@YouriCarma. 73 3 bolt arctic white strat. stag poles hard tail. oh ya.light as a fucking feather.
@Snoot. were you around when bonn flipped. don’t say anything to stacy
@Snoot. if you got a mini mac you can blog from under a bridge. as you know.
@Snoot. as in troll under bridge. haha
@Snoot. you think some of the new peeps round here are spooks? i’m ascared of that.
we might have to run in a surpantine motion to escape.
@ronron:
Spooks? Words are the spooks: I’d hide from them before people anyday. People are agents of their own demise most usually.
@Snoot. cia-spooks.
@Snoot. you didn’t fucking think that i
@Snoot. enjoy the pony. bye y’all.
PIMCO Gross: If exit strategies proceed as planned, US & UK assets may suffer http://bit.ly/6csvUH
Coal stocks ignited by commodity prices, cold winter http://tinyurl.com/ybczult
Treasury to sell $74 bln in notes, bonds next week http://tinyurl.com/yjpnf8v
Spooks helped to bring the country down in their stupidity and now they gonna suffer themselves and their kids. For any spooks out there: Keep drinking your water and don’t forget your injections and all aahahahaaahahahahaa!!!!!! Your children are going to be sacrificed to Moleg too you morans!
@skiddypants – ohhh baby, frisk me, frisk me…
Be aware! This elephant made a smart remark like that to airport security while going through a security checkpoint in Miami!
@YouriCarma. if your being racist. don’t ever fucking use a fucking word i used in one of you fucking sentences. never. ever.
China a spoiler on potential Iran sanctions Vid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8D70RS4sEV4
pic of ady gil
http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/201001/r495472_2590575.jpg
@ronron … what about a gold top les paul ? can I buy one of those ?
I’ll take my fucking guitar and jam it in your dirty fucking mouth.
@Youri Carma
Spook, A term used to describe Espionage agents or spies, originating in the United States of America.
@Skippy what year? there’s a lot of phony vintage out there.
LOL. come on … gonna play some blues … want a les paul … but I better not cause then I’ll want a marshall.
15 or 17% headstock?
@ronron
Are you a mental patient or a spook or both cause mental patients often tend to seek that kinda job? Get real!
was thinking about finding a way to hide some physical… gold top les paul … 1950s reissue.
or maybe a black beauty reissue
@Skippy you know the 1 4 5
see you gents in the a.m. later
@Skippy. yes the 17 degree reissue headstock is nice. but don’t buy any fucking guitars.
1 4 5 .. if I had not bad luck I’d have no luck at all …
good night. for real this time.
@ronron
Yep, I know what a spook is guitar boy. I DID have some education.
@YouriCarma. fair enough. explain your earlier statements.
@ronron
I have American friends who were harassed out of their business by FBI scum and went outof the country for that reason ( And that was 15 years ago)
@YuriCarma. sorry the champ here lost it. you meant the spook spooks. fuck i’m paranoid. too many spooks around.
@Y’all
Autism clusters linked to educated well fed whiteys!!!
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=122256276&ps=cprs
@YouriCarma. forgot your in holland. some fucks in the US call blacks spooks. sorry again.
@YouriCarma. jeesfucksorry.
@ronron
Talking about fair “. if your being racist. don’t ever fucking use a fucking word i used in one of you fucking sentences. never. ever.”
So you first …..besides it’s your country that got a big statue of Albert Pike in Washington D.C – Satanist, racist, founder of the Ku Klux Klan. It’s a disgrace.
@frances snoot: “@ronron:
SG sounds like Stephen King embellishing a Dickens novel.
Spooks? Words are the spooks: I’d hide from them before people anyday. People are agents of their own demise most usually.”
Hear! Hear! very nice analogy
@Phil:
It’s odd that Denninger applauds the fact that the banks lie within the up-palm of the nastiest GS bankster of all: Mario Draghi at the BIS:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/markets/2809685/Italians-claim-country-run-by-Goldman-Sachs.html
“Italians grumble that Goldman Sachs runs their country, much as the Jesuits ran countries during the Counter-Reformation.
Premier Romano Prodi is an ex-Goldman Sachs man, as is central bank president Mario Draghi and the deputy treasury chief Massimo Tononi.
The price paid for having so many friends at court is that the elite bank inevitably becomes entangled in the financial scandals that so often swirl around the Italian political class.
For the past month, Goldman Sachs has been dragged into a widening corruption probe into the Siemens-Italtel merger dating back to the mid-1990s.”
@ronron
Yep, accepted….wring that neck guitar boy
http://www.woodbrass.com/images/woodbrass/014-4602-380.JPG
http://ronniejamesdiosite.com/WallPaper/DeepPurpleWP/DeepestPurple.jpg
aaaaaaaaautism fucking clusters. i gotta go. bye use fucks
@YouriCama. i like fucking strats. bye y’all. blond neck fucking strats.
with v fucking necks.
max and stacy are in bed so they can’t fucking hear us.
last.
http://business.theatlantic.com/2009/10/too_big_to_fail_part_vi_securitization_is_dead.php
“Today, I resume my analysis of the Financial Stability Improvement legislation draft (.pdf) released on Tuesday. I wrapped up the “Financial Stability Improvement Act of 2009″ portion of this yesterday, after considering the new oversight council, how systemically risky firms will be chosen, what heightened regulation will look like, capital requirements and a future emergency provision. Today, I’ll probably just tackle two more sections — securitization and the resolution authority. Then I’ll summarize.
The securitization provision is incredible. If enacted as is it may be the beginning of the end of securitization…
All in all, this provision looks like a fatal blow to securitization. If it doesn’t completely destroy the market, it will almost certainly leave it in ruins. Many would applaud either result, but I think that’s a short-sighted view. I’ve defended securitization in the past, because when done properly, it really does make for a more efficient financial market. It provides investors with better diversification and allows them to more easily meet their portfolio objectives. It provides banks and finance companies with more money to lend. While it played a part in what all went wrong, I’ve long maintained that securitization was more a vessel for the poison than the poison itself.”
The writer discusses securitization provisions being mandated by basel committee of the BIS. The regulation is being forced without forethought upon a nation in deep economic tailspin to benefit those who would to keep advantage and deny others that right.
Where is the honest reporting on the issue of the importance of securitization to the credit flow in the US economy?
http://www.cadwalader.com/assets/client_friend/121709SecuritizationReformProposals.pdf
@Schralper
Soul On Top???
Credit card revolt
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2010/01/07/hln.roberts.credit.card.revolt.cnn
http://seekingalpha.com/article/156361-armageddon-part-two-securitization-is-too-big-to-fail
“Options going forwards:
It looks like there are five choices (quantitative easing on any scale is not a serious option):
(a): Persuade America to get by on half the credit that it has gotten used to (let unemployment rise to 15% and live with a declining nominal GDP) until that comes down to a more manageable level. That’s what the IMF would insist on if the USA was a Third World country that got itself into this sort of a jam.
(b): Massively increase the National Debt by selling $2 trillion to $3 trillion of Treasuries a year, year-on-year (remember that has to finance the budget deficit and the current account deficit too). There are two problems with that, the most relevant is that it’s highly unlikely that in the current circumstances the USA will be able to sell more than about $1.5 trillion year.
(c): Massively increase taxation and fire a lot of government employees. That would be popular.
(d): Get the “legacy” banking system to ramp up lending. The way to do that would be to nationalize them, like they do in China. That wouldn’t be hard, most of the big banks are more-or-less owned by the government anyway so that is certainly a viable option.
(e): Fix securitization.”
Well (b) is basically impossible so that’s not really an option, (a) and (c) could result in riots and (d) might precipitate a fascist coup d’etat. So that appears to leave just (e) as the only viable option, apart from muddling through, with the emphasis on muddle.
So why is no one doing anything about that?”
What “they” are going to do is call out the National Guard.
No wonder Draghi is looking to buy off those banking heads.
@Will…………..
That’s soooo funny. (Wonder what the hell that guy is really doing and do you think he has a head light on?)
Good lord!
Max, I’d like to know where you found this picture of Eldridge Cleaver. Who knew the guy had such a….ahem…sense of humor
Remember green shoots???
HAHAHAHAHA
Wait a year till Congress can pass the shit legislation to relegate Americans to the third world which is where we are heading.
Germany sits nicely. France is quietly bankrupt. Holland looks to be the legal arm of the new world. And our press is traitorous.
I keep trying to catch up with the comments.
@Phil/Germany: Great article on FAZ.net, and yes, I read German well enough to get most of what is on the financial pages. I keep thinking that if SHTF, Germany would still be a better place than parts of the US. Excellent beer, sausage and pastries there. And ’tis the land of some of my ancestors.
@Y’all
Frozen Britain Seen From Above!!!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_depth/8447023.stm
@Y’all
and it aint a fit night out for man or beast!!!
@Y’all
americas’ role seen in uganda anti-gay push!!!
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/04/world/africa/04uganda.html?hp
Does anyone think Iceland may have been set-up to fail so that they wouldn’t be able to develop their geothermal energy into significant alternative energy supplies trading internationally?
@naomi – I don’t know, but I’ve been told ya gotta fight ‘em in there so ya don’t hafta fight ‘em out here.”
Just woke up
Yeah Tsar ya need lead clothings
mix it with Gold Snicker
May madam Quiery be your advisor lololololol
hic
@ Maxey boy
Without ya headin towards pheces
What da ya gotta say about Global warming
Seeing that britain is havin one of its most coldest winters ?????????????
Plus that aplies to the Globe cause me too freezing me ass off
But the NEWs channell ‘s is only about “what happened in prity miss USA and Prity miss UK”
if someone takes a piss in anyone of these 2 countrys its on MSM NEws
lolololllolol
Hic
Wheras that guy who when born their parents couldnt figure out should we start the name with
S or T, S or t s or t s or t
Got it lets use both
lolololololololol
If it is a hoax why don’t the Govt. come out and say that Onion rings feller
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/rr5308a1.htm
Hic
Ooooooooh sorry peeps
that site has some Gross pics
Truly am sorry
Don’t scroll all the way down
Plz warnin ya
Didnt notice casue was reading
Hic
OK’s did a lotta googling
HR 87 91 might be a Hoax
Gotta eat my own words
Sorry for the in convience
But was looking at his lips while he gave the speech does’nt look like its a hoax
“Can we get some lip readers on ta site”
Hic
Well I guess only if ya connected can ya get the truth
But by seeing’s USA & UK’s past history record I tend ta belive it
Lepord dont change its spots but does act like a cameleon
@frances snoot
The problem with securitization is that you have to be able to fully trust the stamp which has been put on it so this has to be done very carefully and with some liability cause the people who sell these products don’t have any responsibility for it so that these products get sold around like hot potatoes.
But if somebody is gonna put triple AAA on it for the fast buck anyways and can’t be held responsible you know that a lot of harm is being done. Not only financially but much worse, in destroying any trust in the system.
Banks didn’t do anything about it, central banks didn’t do anything about it, mainstream journalist didn’t do anything about it, politicians didn’t do anything about it. Than your lost, like we are now today with the wicked system. It stinks.
That’s what you get in the bankster way of thinking were only profitability is your guide. It;s bound to turn into a disaster if no ethics is involved and nobody can be held responsible. even if securitization in itself is a good idea and frees up more capital.
So you can’t do without some ethical controlling system outside the narrow technical banking deformed way of thinking. They don’t deal with people but with some figures on some balance sheet.
@harry_w, Copenhagen was an early skirmish in the struggle over redrawing the energy map.
http://rawstory.com/2010/01/geithner-aig-emails/
If I was Obama the first thing I would do is to remove the racist, satanist Klux Klux clan symbol: The Albert Pike statue in Washington D.C.. He didn’t what shows to me he’s just a minion of some ignorant MTF’s white shoe boys.
Obama-The Next Fascist Dictator
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDkO8p4z0Wg
Barack Obama, The Fabian Fascist
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yF98Di5m2GQ
@Stacy and Max
A fun suggestion for you. Why not invite a Chineese astrologer. This year is the YEAR of THE TIGER ! Ferocious year in perspective, Chineese are very much into astrology, even when it come to buying financial assets. It would be real fun. Tiger years are not calm.
http://www.businessweek.com/globalbiz/content/jan2010/gb2010017_125198.htm
Obama his secret plan for our future
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-yEB82dB_Y
Obama his secret plan for our future pt 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5vzCWxkx6k
Thanks for the show, guys!
Obamas plan for our future part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-3CBN19t_A
Email sent to the BBC…
Please listen to the Podcast of “The World Tonight” (news program) with Robin Lustig Thursday, 22:00 hrs. To get the full report start at 7 minutes (22:07) to 12 minutes. The KEY comment being at 11 minutes. This is the biggest bit of breaking news, that was completely left in the air. I quote the guest from the 11 minute mark…
Michael Shoyer 20 year CIA employee and now Professor For Security Studies Georgetown University…
“Probably the most dispiriting thing from Mr Obama was to hear him once again repeat the mantra that’s been repeated since 1992; that the Muslims hate us for what we are, for our freedoms and principles rather than what we do in the Muslim world supporting Israel, supporting Arab tyrinnies. WE ARE STILL FIGHTING AN ENEMY THAT DOESN’T EXIST AND THE PRESEDENT SIDESTEPPED TELLING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE THE TRUTH, and that will get more Americans killed faster than a bad Watch List”.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/console/b00pk72c
This comment warrants further investigation, if the BBC are interested in reporting the truth. Though of course I am one of those who read George Orwell’s 1984.
Faithfully
MAGHREB CANAL 92 : ZBIGNIEWS BREZINSKI SAID : AMERICA IS NOT AN ENNEMY OF ISLAM !!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeEwRMkX7Rs
Zbignew Brezinsky & Al-CIA-Duh
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WiYWu73c3A
http://pix.motivatedphotos.com/2009/12/13/633963273082117800-wallstreet.jpg
http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq114/phospb/NoBanksters.gif
http://www.motifake.com/image/demotivational-poster/0912/the-secret-service-chuck-norris-obama-demotivational-poster-1261034394.jpg
@Y’all
just another day to look the other way???
gimme more food please… this is not america!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCVGtx9m9D0
http://ml-implode.com/staticnews/2010-01-08_Goldmansuedbypensionfundoverbonusplans.html
Goldman Sachs for its gigantic bonuses by a pension fund ! At last ! Enfin ! Personnally I think it’s not enough, There is only ONE way to deal with gangsters like Goldman Sachs. Only ONE WAY. Still. I find it refreshing that somebody will at least try to sue these sun of bitches for their raping of clients and taxpayers. Obama is indeed a nice piece of sh-t.
http://ml-implode.com/staticnews/2010-01-08_Goldmansuedbypensionfundoverbonusplans.html
Suing is not enough. How about prison terms for the people at Goldman Sachs ? Don’t count on American justice too much. Still it’s courageous to sue these crooks. Meanwhile the US government is nowhere to be seen.
a not very interesting show from my perspective, no new, deep info
China overtakes Germany as top exporter: stats
http://news.theage.com.au/breaking-news-world/china-overtakes-germany-as-top-exporter-stats-20100108-lypo.html
And what does Mister Geithner has in his pants ?
Time to indict Geithner for security fraud. It possible to sue Geithner and the US governement for security fraud ? Problaby a waste of time in the present context. But still. Ir would be real fun to have an attorney after Gethner suing him for securty fraud. Good suggestion from Mish.
http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2010/01/time-to-indict-geithner-for-securities.html
@Youri Thanks LOL
@Y’all
uganda PT 2 .
‘Toronto: global epicenter for oppression of sex and gender minorities’
http://www.boingboing.net/2010/01/07/toronto-global-epice.html
iexpect an update soon after i post this yet nevertheless – this document — “psychological” — a quacks discipline.. — truly does persuasively show how insane the “global warming” push is– they have psychologists writing papers on it regularly ahahaha
Psychology and Global Climate Change
Addressing a Multi-faceted Phenomenon and Set of Challenges
http://www.apa.org/science/about/publications/climate-change.aspx
this is the homepage of the woman who was in charge of the writers of the report … check it out, freak..clearly not normal
http://www.personal.psu.edu/jks4/Welcome.html
according to her site.. she studies “ecofeminism” … and , wait for it……..(remember she is one of the us’s most acclaimed so called ‘psychologists’…. “”resistance to acknowledging that humans are a cause of global climate change…” hsahaha these peeople i think r in fact clinically insane — they must live in a completely different make beleive world to reality
omg LAWL
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecofeminism
i like how the use the word “culture” to describe mankind (oh pardon me, i mean tto say humankind)
@Alister. Ya got something against llamas??! God forbid that anyone has a homepage that doesn’t conform to your norms.
@Alister,…I wouldn’t exactly say “psychology” (Study of the \mind) is a quack discipline,.maybe you were referring to Psychiatry ? : )
@Y’all
have been meaning to post this for weeks but kept forgetting… not the best track on the album… but still good… and great lyrics… and mixed by UPSETTER the BOSS!!!
Max Romeo – Stealing in the name of Jah.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7gvzURNdFU
Full body scanners violate child porn laws? http://tinyurl.com/yjnmzcr
An interesting point made by Jo Skulaso about people leaving Iceland, what if everyone left the country, afterall there is only 300000 odd Icelanders, what would happen to the fishing rights, also the rights to whatever other valuable resources they may be sitting on. Following on from this thought is Ireland going to re-experience the Great Famine, a Famine 2.0 so to speak.
“But if somebody is gonna put triple AAA on it for the fast buck anyways and can’t be held responsible you know that a lot of harm is being done. Not only financially but much worse, in destroying any trust in the system.”
Yes, well. The same rating agencies that stamped fraud AAA are working for the BIS in bank regulation concerning the same AAA fraud. Tidy that.
And then you have ‘patriots’ who are begging to flush America down the international toilet through this regulation without indicating that we will all be slaves (absolute slaves) of the state because of said regulation.
And then you have Denninger. Do you think he knows the affect of quickly ‘pushing the bezzle’ out of the system?
Anyway: the bezzlers are the ones at the BIS. So it is a matter of CONSOLIDATION and MONOPOLY on risk and asset capital controls.
“Banks didn’t do anything about it, central banks didn’t do anything about it, mainstream journalist didn’t do anything about it, politicians didn’t do anything about it. Than your lost, like we are now today with the wicked system. It stinks.”
Oh, yes they did ‘do something’. Rubin got bailed out. There’s the PPIP and the TALF. There PIMCO and the Lehman bros. roast turkey fest. There’s municipalities and pensions that were robbed and politicians that were given jobs at banks (Jeb Bush went to Lehman after he emptied Florida’s funds TWICE).
Now we get the Hero press to give the criminals (IMF/BIS) even MORE power and to regulate securitization into a rathole that has the name Soros on it. He will put the trophey up on his mantel and stand, Napoleonesquelike before the fire, scratching his balls and saying, “them was the good ole days”. Economics will be ‘rewritten’ so that no one else may profit playing the same game. The good old rating agencies will close down honest and renew criminal.
And Americans will do what they are told to do by their respective bobble-heads. They will take of the sheep-skins and put on a new identity: the suprasovereign international identity deigned by the ‘wise ones’ called SLAVE.
definately not dedo — the later at least are required to study medicine as doctors do b4 practicing.. psychology is a new age joke
@Alister,…How can the study of something be “quackery”,..do tell?
Think before you answer!,.e.g,..use your mind : )
@Alister,.Think about the ramifications of studying the mind and this next quote:
Fear is an illusion of the mind. Mind controlling a herd is much easier than physically restraining it. If you can control the herd and still maintain a high level of motivation by having them believe they are free at the same time as they are cowering, this is much more financially desirable.
Now think about developing a pseudo science to relieve the trauma of conflicts that will result! : )
Fear is an illusion of the mind.
?
Fear is the absence of feeling.
@Frances,…TRY and keep things in context cutie pie! : )
@ Dedo – the study of the human mind is undoubtedly an absolutely fascinating activity and one which I sincerely believe is actually integral to our forward advancement as a species, and thus the study of the human mind (I.E. the physical brain encased within our skull) should be invested in and discussed broadly as much as possible, imo. that for me goes without saying. my problem is with these people who essentially buy phds or spend a few years at a uni studying “psychology” and then seriously think that they themselves have somehow got an above overview of people and society — this is imo absurd– im sure in all the learned psychology literature there is some important verifiable truths but for each 1 of that im also confident there are 10, 20, 50 , 100 other pieces of information or sub-subjects filled mostly with silly subjective unscientific quackkery — … if anything i believe the study , such as what neurologists do… of the HUMAN BRAIN… is far far far far more superior in both scientific integrity and importance … i consider psychologists barely barely above “social workers” not in terms of their character but interms of what useful value they can contribute to society, particuarly wqhen compared to neuros and the like etc…..
to further underline the seriousness with which i regard this issue of the study of the mind i can tell you that, to my brain at least, it is more rational and logical for humans to religiously worship a large, illuminated, detailed model of the human brain perched up in the air on stilts…than any of the other current religions because, for example, without our brains no human could even conceive of the concept of “God” let alone learn and comprehend a detailed and complicated religion in particular…..
so yes, i take it seriously but believe tehre are paths infinitely more worthwhile towards the end we mutually agree upon: understaning the mind (ie. peopels behaviour etc)
@Alister,…So, really we agree with one another!
The only difference being, the “people” who study said discipline, and their objectives and influences ? : )
basically what led me to all this ranting …
…. was what i wrote above re AGW which led me to discover this horrific thing..led in one tranche by oen of the most established, highly “respected” US psychologsts:::
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_ecology#Deep_ecology_as_not_.22deep.22_enough
check it out– i m male & actually studied feminism last year at uni for fun and enjoyed it so im not a anti=-feminist by no means by this stuff to my mind is disturbing and truly does cut against the grain very roughly of our (i hate to say it…) natural evolution…
sorry i meant to post this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecofeminism
but they r both very releveant to what im speaking about
ecological extremists id call em
@Alister:
Do you fear death, or is it only the feminine that gives you the wobblies? I don’t this the ecofeminists care WHAT you think about them.
“Here we encounter the inevitable man-with-rock, standing erect in his old Freudian realm, in the way that, to take the figure back to the point where linguistics is conceptualizing it “anew,” Lacan preserves it in the sanctuary of the phallos “sheltered” from castration’s lack! Their “symbolic” exists, it holds power–we, the sowers of discord, know it only too well. But we are in no way obliged to deposit our lives in their bank of lack to consider the constitution of the subject in terms of a drama manglingly restaged, to reinstate again and again the religion of the father. Because we don’t want that. We don’t fawn around the supreme hole. We have no womanly reason to pledge allegiance to the negative…” Helene Cicoux, “The Laugh of the Medussa”
truly does cut against the grain very roughly of our (i hate to say it…) natural evolution…
Because, Alister, what you are indicating is that the ecofeminists are not a part of YOUR evolution: your square of the circle, your ideal of replication. To you they represent some ‘other’ and therefore define your fundamental stoicism by their purported extremism (defined by your systematic definitions of course).
omg wow youre obviously really into gender equality adn stuff and yea like i said i actually voluntarily chose to study feminism at uni so yeah like i have no issues with it plus all my female friends r like lawyers buisness type peeps i think thats sweet….
u seem to have gone a bit psycho over the natural evoultion thing .. like i get that but whilst i would never in a million years even consider sying like to my future wife you know dont work or anytying — in fact id very much want the opposite to b proud of her… — there coimes a point where u have to admit , sorry, that over time we have evolved through two sexes .. now whether u agree with how we evolved is your thing… but u cant really deny it or say “now we can reverse the nature of hundrends of thousands of years of evo in order to achieve perfect equality in the next 50 [who would want perfect equality in any sense -0that in itself goes against nature as nature is never perfectly symetrical!?!?] ” that is silly and just what the equivalent of chauvenstic men say but 4 women…chill out — i know all the cliches ive written essays on it all.. im on ur side, Relax.
in case i wasnt clear ……..i dont , never did have issues with fdeminism…..it is the using of feminisim or people involved or with a history in feminism by peoeple / organizations not usually / previously involved in feminism to carve out a hollywood-esque narrative to drive extreme ecological positions — i.e.if u read what eco fem says on wiki — “that women have a closer connection to earth blah blah they will lead the way to us living in harmony ” that is whats distrubing .. cos its crazy!!
@Alister – I think it is more disturbing how the bottom 99.9% quickly jump onto that paradigm of calling each other extremists and/or terrorists exactly as the government wants them to; it makes it easy for them to pick us all off one by one
@Alister:
Well, if we ‘evolved separately’ I’d take it that one of the two sexes is supposedly ‘fitter’, but seeing as the fitting part is still a functionality and not an issue I suppose that humanity can be taken in the context as one unit. Saying such does not pardon man’s preemptive strikes on nature or on women: to say that man does not marginalize both and to call me ‘psycho’ or activists ‘extremists’ seems like a bid to prolong that position which can only be termed “king on the mountain”.
The term ‘peeps’ always brings to my mind a large poultry farm with lots of pecking and little agency: you may use it as you deem fitting, but I would prefer to be disassociated from the term.
Yea Stacy!!!!! (bell ringing in the distance)
As long as we are looking at each other we are not looking at them and looking at what they are doing.
@ Stacy – nice to hear from you.
a funny comedian recently said even a single edged sword is a double edged sword because whilst one side is sharp the other side is blunt .. point is: spectrum’s are all that exist and by definition they, in human terms, have ends…the opposing ones of which will naturally espouse animosity towards one another; govt plot or not this will remain – sure, if your driving the 3rd way it makes it easier for sure to see the periphery , i agree. what is the distribution of the periphery though? more disturbing to me than the natural phenomenon you eluded to is the actual periphery, surely?
wow frances, didnt even say we evolved separately? clearly we did not!?! ! i agreed neither you nor i nor our families could have evolved without both sexes, of course! like james brown said [although it still is, Unfrotunately!!!!!] “it is a mans world..but it would be nothing without women”… haha this is interesting, testing my diplomacy here… dont really know what to say other than i apologise i have clearly offended Alot! the king thing is definately not anything im thinking..ill try boil it down even more:
i think it childish to say one sex is ‘naturally’ more ‘in touch’ with planet earth as an ecological system . i am the type of person who thinks MALE or FEMALE / child rearing / housework should be calculated in gdp- and id love to earn enough young to b a stay at home dad so chill out!!!!
“it is a mans world..but it would be nothing without women”
Good Lord, Alister. Did you read Cicoux? She indicated that saying the pledge to the negative is not an activity we are going to take anymore. It’s not a man’s world unless you define the world in the context of the rocky spaces within your own head.
@ Stacy , even .1% recognizes that amongst their ‘mainstream’ causes are peripheries too .. it’s all so messy it could never be otherwise of course.. if anything the more wealthy the more eccentric i would have thought, just in not necessarily an ostentatious fashion
frances, i was trying to lighten up the conversation, its the lyics of one of james browns most world wide popular hits..
Ideology makes ssmart people fall for stupid ideas – regarding feminisim or environmentalism – i am a pragmatist and a realist not an ideologue, not to say i dont share some of saids ambitions
ps who is Cicoux snoot?
The point to the ‘in touch’ allusion is that men deliberately put aside feeling for reason as a general rule, whereas women do not. I am affecting a stance here subjective to my own experience. I think this is what the ecofeminists were indicating by their unusual correlation.
Of course, if you find feeling repellent, you will find that argument ridiculous. It most probably is, but I stand by it. I think the reliance upon reason as a form of surety is quite silly myself. Reason is a tool; feeling is an appendage of human. Feeling is subordinated to reason as a means of control of human by external force.
It is force itself which is inconsistent with nature. Why the women go on about it is a way of seeing male force against a perjorative of the same desire to use force against women. Women standing in stead for that which is not given a voice.
You don’t have to ‘get it’ Alister. Because, hopefully, the male domination which you seem to have missed will be bypassed and your understanding become redundant.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hélène_Cixous
Sorry, Alister. I seem to have misspelt her name: but you don’t mind about spelling unless it is your own name to which I now religiously allow only one L.
meant to read ‘male force against nature’ typo…
Your first sentence is surprisingly simple minded for such an evidently smart individual.
“…men deliberately put aside feeling for reason as a general rule, whereas women do not.” Even qualifying this as a general rule, you simply cannot seriously talk to me whilst trying to divide the human population into categories like this. Sorry.
ps i am not being rude i enjoy debating
and i am a romantic like ive said here b4. romantics love feeling! so no am not like that! :=)
seriously frances you probably dont care enough which iis quite perfectly okay but ur starting to speak very serious and , thgouh happy to engage like that intelectually its pain doing so in forum like this here is my email address if u want to sit and write something which u may well not but to address u properly i ahve to put on my glasses and like think so ie not just type here haha!!
[email protected]
anyway zzz time for me, bye
@Alister:
Please. I did not create the partitions: the patriarchy as it has defined and portrayed gender roles through media and societal rewards has created it thusly. Are you denying this is so? I mean: come on, Alister, Barbie wasn’t actually portrayed as a rocket scientist but as an emotional doll. A poppet: a child without agency and fraught with weak and emotive tendencies. Did you miss all this?
And I left a caveat:
Of course, if you find feeling repellent, you will find that argument ridiculous. It most probably is, but I stand by it.
Just looked up Eldridge Cleaver – he was a rapist!
@s.herbert
Us???
http://www.nytimes.com/1998/05/02/us/eldridge-cleaver-black-panther-who-became-gop-conservative-is-dead-at-62.html?pagewanted=1
@Y’all
I posted ‘the’ poem before but … Hey… Leroi Jones aka Amiri Baraka!!!
New York Art Quartet with Amiri Baraka – Black Dada Nihilismus.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98oK6zZXmQw
What – no Superfly pun? Very disappointing…