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Well….it seems that the CO2 b*llsh*t didn’t scare us enough. So now they have to call in the big one. METHANE. It’s going to kill us if we don’t act. And the only way to protect ourselves is to pay a lot of taxes I guess?
We’ve found ourselves a new religion with new priests and a new pope. O wait. I could be send into prison these days for not believing all this crap.
Geroge Orwell. Man, you were right.
CO2 Contributed by Human Activity: 12 to 15ppmv / version 1 and Methane in the Atmosphere (Almost notin) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYLmLW4k4aI
@Mep
Free markets and sound money are part of liberty and democracy. Some call it liberal democracy, and the US is not a liberal democracy. The loss of freedoms and free markets in the US has put it on a course towards illiberal democracy for the foreseeable future.
@Stacy
Don’t forget about the agricultural subsides in the EU that comprise around 40 % of the EU budget, and help to impoverish third world countries whose main source of production is agriculture. However, it is sad that Ron Paul failed to mention that the first step in improving third world economies would be for the US and EU to end agricultural subsides, so there economies would be able to grow and compete with other agricultural based economies in other countries. Then the US and EU would be unable to dump agricultural goods on third world economies.
I’m constantly surprised I see this global warming bs here.
From the article: “due to increasing temperatures.”
Wrong. Temperatures have been on a downward trend for the last 11 years.
“Shrinking ice caps.”
Wrong. Ice caps have expanded the last two years.
This methane stuff …part of the thing is that there are apparently underwater volcanoes that are melting PART of the Artic. If you look at the rest of it, the sum total, it’s expanding.
I don’t know about this methane stuff, but the rest is propaganda.
“Frances — I was raised by nihilists in a majority atheist society… I can’t even tell if you’re being sarcastic or not. Do you mean door-to-door Christians? Is there an infestation in your neighbourhood? Do you have a good spray-bottle?”
No, it means that I avoid those who spray sanctimony on themselves like it is a cologne that makes them unavoidably attractive and intelligent in their committment to servicing their residual metaphysical-objectivism.
O and max; the economics, imagine a billion consumers going from 1$ a day (probably soon due to inflation/devaluation 2$) to a decent wage/standard of living where they buy more (luxury) goods/take out loans/start new businesses etc. ( only in a responsible way). China is just a peanut compared to that, because now the bankster plundered everything the poverty increases, only more way to go up. If morals etc. don’t count. Can’t disagree that the current bankster/military industrial complex economic model isn’t very sustainable or prosperous.
Feds raid Chevron? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/15/feds-raid-chevrons-alaska_n_424427.html
@ crumpet – Some pics for you: seeing the effects of climate change.
@maxkeiser.com
enjoy your digital representation of somebody elses reality!!!
As long as a trillion is spent on military each year (only hardware) and the oil industry is in the hands of the same people who own the money supply fed/eu/bis/imf/world bank etc. and those people exploit third world countries. The key is education the western birth-rate is 1.3 for 2 adults so it’s decreasing. Wallstreet shouldn’t be bailed out for 20 trillion and counting. People shouldn’t be indoctrinated at school, they should be learned to solve problems/question. The aim of society should be progress/innovation, all environment can be restored (bison was almost extinct, as example; beside it’s all about creating the right conditions for life to prosper). We can build cities in the sea, explore space etc. Yet a new intellectual revolution is required; people should learn that consumption of certain goods has dire consequences and should look for alternative (look up testla, you probably know about the electric car in the eighties). Anyways the bankers have to go, iceland can be the first to kick their asses (and no the dutch taxpayer isn’t benefiting we bailed out banks already for 80+ billion 200 billion guarantees nationalised 2 banks etc. even government money was speculated on icesave, thats how corrupt things are here). Then we need proper research/re evaluation of how much resources we have and whats possible in current age (copyrights have to change, CRU data was false, no data saudi arabia etc).Can’t just say there’s too many people or we can’t save earth from asteroids/weakened magnetic field assumed global warming etc. while there’s no effort to reach anywhere near full potential of people.
@max
Maybe there is franchising opportunity in rioting?
I want my Max Keiser riot gear! Rent-an-antiglobailist..Al these rioters just want to get laid..Copenhagen riots whare a farce.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUBadgLeEQs
I got a dutch domain with a name that translates to ‘its not my responsibility’..and one called lovesaveslives..and one called addemocracy (wich houses a planning decision engine based on real time votes)..but no time..no money..
@all you Greenies.
Good news for you. The melting of the permafrost is not necessarily a catastrophe. Here is why. Guess what happens when to the unfrozen land in question after that ? Trees grow on it absorbing your “poison” carbon. Again. Climatology and ecology are new sciences. I can’t stand all the gloom and doom emanating from these “end of the world” scientists. And no Paying a big fat commission to Al Gore or IMF banksters is not a solution to anything.
@ Max – Are you going to develop it so that all of our avatars can pose as anarchists there?
I own maxriot.com
@Mom – what you mean is you want to be able to harvest from it all the tasty creatures for as long as possible?
@ Danny – It’s all making me nervous for the people there. I understand that circumstances aren’t exactly great for getting relief supplies into the city, but it’s almost like the militarized elements are just waiting for an excuse to point their guns at hungry people. Reuters put out an article about brief fights taking place over water–with the suggestion that chaos could ensue if supplies were sent in and there was a sense of scarcity among the people due to limitations of what could be taken in in one trip. They also reported that Haitians were getting restless and angry b/c they could see all of the planes landing with supplies . . . supplies that weren’t making their way to the people; some groups of Haitians allegedly were barricading streets with corpses in protest of non-delivery of supplies.
Sounds like a lot of the people sent there are afraid to actually encounter hungry people with supplies. French soldiers were apparently hanging out at the airport waiting for “marching orders.” Lord knows what the US, Chinese, and UN troops are doing.
@Mother Earth
Ok, I’ll go back and have another watch. It had struck me as a strange thing to say considering his general stance so maybe I misheared him
@Crumpet
I like tuna sandwiches..
Can one of the lovers of the earth tell me why they want to save it – assuming it needs saving? I just don’t get it.
All unhappy people will be eliminated..problems solved..
I believe there is an unstable balance between our agressive nature, our compassion and intellectual capabilities. We basically found oil to early in our evolution..
@Danny
Wow.. that is quite a misperception..Ron Paul is not my favourite, but all he is saying is that if airlines where made responsible for attacks on them, there would be a more efficient response to the problem..More efficient that the government response of invading our privacy wholesale..
CAPS LOCKED IN SOLIDARITY WITH PRESUMED PROVOCATEURS!
…It’s gonna get to the point where anyone who dissents even remotely with other dissenters is tarred with this brush. More suspicious to me when people in positions of power within “independent media” place some things off-limits and refuse to talk about them… hmm?
Sincerely,
A team of writers in a cubicle in Reston VA
@Dork
Your computer will self destruct in 5 seconds…
@Mep
I thought it interesting that ‘Europe’ was ending 2 battleships (??) (guess thats the Irish neutrality shown for what it is again) and the US sending an aircraft carrier and marines (??) to Haiti.
This is tokenism. Me thinks those troops will be staying around after this crisis has died down in the press. Hey, I can see Cuba and Venezuela from here!
@AM — well, if you were never gonna buy the album anyway, then it’d hardly be stealing to download it… right?
@Danny
There is a possibility that you could also be a spook
We both need to inform our controllers of these events and await instructions
@Stacy
If you could, could you send my email address to @Dork Of Cork email please (presume you put your own email in Dork)
Thanks Stacy
@Dork
You sound old and wise; I could be intimidated and found out as a charlatan! I’m only a goosling and a brigand. I’m bringing’ a hurley with me just in case you turn out to be a spook!
@ Mother Earth – The thing is, Ron Paul–critic of current US foreign policy–is hypocritically ignoring our past deeds and what they have meant to Haitians specifically. I think most of us understand the pitfalls of fiat currencies; however, the problem in Haiti isn’t just that they have a bad currency; they have crushing poverty . . . thanks to our policies. And despite their uprising against their original masters, the vast majority of them still live under slavery. I’m curious as to what free-market solutions Ron Paul would specifically recommend for them. We all know that “free-trade zones” aren’t the answer.
I’ll be paying close attention to what the Obama admin. does. So far, they appear to be taking their cues from the Heritage Foundation:
http://blog.heritage.org/2010/01/13/things-to-remember-while-helping-haiti/
. . . not a day after this brief blueprint was written, Obama brought George W. into the mix.
I think Naomi Klein is 100% correct in pushing for the international community to insist that Haiti receives only grants for aid and reconstruction . . . no loans. The last thing they need is to be more indebted.
@Tofu Charlie Know that one of bermas his show/documentaries (atleast i thought he was in there). Sounds good, not a particular rap fan usual listen mostly old rock/blues and for some tougher music a lot of different metal but this has power and a good message. Thx, hopefully he doesn’t mind torrent programs because i’m gonna download some (if i had the money i would pay for it).
@CLIMATE BABY
I guess you really know very little about British Culture… I know you have a thing about name calling…. but we don’t really use that word like that in this country and haven’t done for decades!!!
@AM — do you know about Immortal Technique? You might like his lyrics…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Igt-jW4e8ts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uyru_Zt23Mk
@ Danny – I hear you. I can’t make sense of it. Perhaps Alex Jones is right on this one, and the best thing people can do in protest is to show up at airports stark naked. We all know that the naked body, up close and personal, is offensive and humiliating to those who seek to humiliate all of us.
@Stacy
I call them Israeli art students. I had three of those bastards visit houses I was staying in in different parts of Ireland on three separate occassions.
People you could be witnissing history here
The birth of thee most ineffective revolutionary organisation in the history of revolutionary organisations
I have written my first new song in years (started playing half year ago again after i broke my hand so still busy training and writing music anyways unlike bankers/copyright cartel i do not believe in copyrights: I hope to inspire others to get the message out in alternative ways (use any part you like; would be nice to give me some credit/appreciation in such case but that’s a choice), maybe maxkeiser music contest? :-p without further ado:
enemy of humanity; out for destruction of society
On a non-stop killing spree without ever feeling guilty
but no more we shall fight your artificial war
we’re aware what it is good for
no longer you will be able to divide and conquer
to exploit the desperate and poor
we might have no where to run or hide
yet there is no need when we stand up, unite and fight for our right to be free
humanity shall not live in slavery
Any Resistance is a victory!
printing money; robbing every debt slaved country creating death and poverty
the economic policy wrapped in secrecy is all about speculating and manipulating without accountability or transparency
it isn’t socialism or capitalism it is cronyism, corporatism, fascism and neo feudalism
The oligarchy deliberately destroying self-sufficiency and sovereignty
depriving humanity of progress by withholding patented technology
No longer we shall take it
no longer we work for your profit
no longer we shall serve your benefit
We are just tired of living in this hell cesspit
We shall break out of the scientific control grid
The tv station manipulation and indoctrination for dehumanisation created the illusion of overpopulation
but increasing starvation is caused by exploitation due to profit motivation
Constant fabrication of disinformation for justification of taxation without representation and the abuse of vaccinations for depopulation and sterilisation
time to question your pop death culture education and end the continuous deliberate mass extermination
CIA making big bucks with shipping in the drugs to finance their illegal black ops. In case you had no clue, this private prison system to track trace and database is for you but we know the real thugs.
It’s never too late to oppose and end the police state just don’t get distracted by COINTELL pro injecting race and hate.
al CIAda is just part of the propaganda and private armies are commercialized legalized mafia.
sacrificing our privacy and liberty for safety and security will lead to nothing but tyranny
enemy of humanity; out for destruction of society
On a non-stop killing spree without ever feeling sorry
but no more we shall fight your artificial war
we’re aware what it is good for
no longer you will be able to divide and conquer
to exploit the desperate and poor
we might have no where to run or hide
yet there is no need when we stand up, unite and fight for our right to be free
humanity shall not live in slavery
Any resistance is victory!
chemtrails suppose to be good so is genetically modifying our food
or poisoning our water and air but it is all planned biological warfare
while making people only care about how they look and what they wear.
the global carbon tax will eradicate small business and the middle class.
military industrial complex is the one staging false flag terror attacks
the elite uses lies and tricks to deceit the public into eugenics
pollution creating confusion
but there are no problems only solutions
No longer we shall buy into the illusions
Time to ignite a new intellectual revolution
enemy of humanity; out for destruction of society
On a non-stop killing spree without ever feeling guilty
but no more we shall fight your artificial war
we’re aware what it is good for
no longer you will be able to divide and conquer
to exploit the desperate and poor
we might have no where to run or hide
yet there is no need when we stand up, unite and fight for our right to be free
humanity shall not live in slavery
Any resistance is victory!
Don’t fear execution as retribution we shall restore the peoples constitution
As prosecution the guilty ones will face a fair trial for their crime and will do the appropriate time, look in the mirror for the solution.
every human has the responsibility to stop the fake video game personality, the celebrity worship and created sport tribe mentality search for your true destiny and individuality.
I actually find it very sad to see that this wonderful specie is in so much misery but we have to step up and face reality.
Ghandi has shown how to defeat tyranny
It’s time for sympathy and solidarity
It’s time for empathy and tolerance
It’s time for civil disobedience and non violent resistance
stop the global dictator banking governance and give peace a chance
@Mep
Saw that interview too on RT. I was thrown by his comments on the airlines, it should be the job of the airline to track you through security and not the government; whats that all about or change?! This is man who advovates personnal liberty and he was taking about carrying a chipped identity card or something. (??)
I like Ron Paul too but his talk of free markets just makes me think of Russia under Yeltsin.
@CLIMATE BABY
OMG it’s worse than I thought… did you just write that… please say it ain so!!!
@Stacy
Ron Paul is for free markets and sound money in the US as well..
@Henk
I don’t rely on publications..what was the link you posted?
@Danny
Yes I would murder a pint
Parhaps we can solve the problems of the world
Unfortunetly I have a habit of forgetting the amazing solutions I espouse by Sunday morning – such is life
@Mother – thanks for posting that; there are MANY provocateurs online . . .
@ Stacy – exactly! And, is it just me, or was he suggesting some sort of biochips for airline travel?!
Ah, they call it cognitive infiltration..
http://theragblog.blogspot.com/2010/01/got-fascism-obama-advisor-promotes.html
@mother earth we did the calculations ourselves therefore I’m work with people working in that field.
So i don’t rely on publications. But I use my brain.
@Mep – I saw that! And I meant to post it because it is pretty sickening that Paul suggests it is the Haitians who need to adopt free markets and not the US policy in the country for past thirty years and dumping agricultural products that has impoverished the country.
I’m with Tofu on the allegiance scale,.the majority of the “public” are gone,..G.O.N.E,.gone,.out to lunch,.lights on, nobody in,.sharp as a bowling ball,.two cards short of a full deck,.one brick short of a load,.a sandwich short of a picnic,.not the sharpist tool in the shed!! : /
@SG
You sound like the spastic baby with the razor in the joke ‘what is red, sits in the corner and gets smaller and smaller?’..
Ron Paul tells RT that what Haiti needs is free markets and sound money. Why did he leave out liberty and democracy?
I like Ron Paul, but he puts too much faith in “free markets”.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-IyJjPqmGA
@Dork Of Cork
You about the town tonight/tomorrow? I might in The Oval or Tom Barry’s tonight/tommorrow.
Not sure yet though as I might be caught for work i Killarney
@Y’all
I’m cool I mostly only SCREAM when I’m really laughing and being HAPPY…. AAAAARGHHH….. OH NO…. AAAAAARRRRRGH…. OH NO!!!!
the methane debate is potentially fiery, my re(butt)le is the food corps are makin things even worse, feedin all the cattle junk food. Same with the peoples, eatin all that junk food. Makes um burp and fart too much
Surprised Al Green Gore didn,t wanna tax his advocates that produce such crappy food … Al is such a farthead
The dinosaurs started the problem …
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jw4r0Tj8Dio&feature=related
@Frances — I was raised by nihilists in a majority atheist society… I can’t even tell if you’re being sarcastic or not. Do you mean door-to-door Christians? Is there an infestation in your neighbourhood? Do you have a good spray-bottle?
@SG
Don’t worry be happy.
@DORK FROM CORK
my apologies… I guess I can’t type and SCREAM… OH NO at the same time…. OH NO!!!!!!!!!!
you’re worried about the banksters?
Good Lord, Tofu. No! I’m worried about “God’s Good People” carrying me off to Zion!
@Henk
Maybe you see that the author in the article you mention does not in anyway explain how it got the numbers.
I trust
http://www.ecotopia.com/apollo2/pvepbtoz.htm
and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photovoltaics
more.
@Frances — mort-age… it wasn’t a typo.
@david
OH NO… I been wondering all mornin’ and last night…. when someone would say we are all ‘haitians now’ I swear…. oh no… I didn’t post it coz I thought I should stop being so cynical for a moment… …. I swear that was gonna be my next post….. NEVER, NEVER, NEVR will I hesitate again.. DAMN!!!
@Frances — you’re worried about the banksters? Really? They’re quite civilized on a unit-level, compared to some of the people I sit near on the trams in Melbourne, talking about whose kid they’re going to kidnap for drug money, who they’re going to “bash”… people here getting stabbed for no reason whatsoever… a guy walking near the Ikea in Richmond tackled by three crusty-emos and his ear bitten off.
I’m not worried about the banksters any more. It’s the human animal unleashed that scares me…
wait, maybe Bonn will want to discuss mortage-backed bonds with you
Is it like tennis?
or Dedo? :/
Do we all exist outside our respectable future tags? I don’t think so.
The goal is the ‘uni-citizen’ which is neither white nor black, rich nor poor, educated nor illiterate, and whose desire it is to further the latest ideedee coming from those rich bastards that own Ron Paul.
@Tofu:
You’ve got to be kidding.
Oh. I forgot. It’s a fight club. We are all’s gonna fight the bankers until we tear down our entire social structure and then say: what’s next. And the next is already here:
http://www.examiner.com/x-18425-LA-County-Nonpartisan-Examiner~y2010m1d14-Ron-Paul-US-has-broken-with-reality-sanity-and-rule-of-law-calls-for-Revolutionary-changes
So inevitably trite.
The article makes methane sound kind of “good” b/c while it notes that methane traps more heat than carbon dioxide, it says that methane only remains in the atmosphere for a decade; the author should’ve mentioned that after roughly a decade, methane then breaks down into CO2 and remains in the atmosphere.
…wait, maybe Bonn will want to discuss mortage-backed bonds with you
@Frances — lol! Everyone knows it!… Try Zerohedge…
@Snoot. good to see you.
Frances — what are they covered in? Anything yummy? Mmm.. bonds… “om nom nom!”
This is the most pathetic financial forum in the history of financial forums.
@ronron:
Lead. Ghandhi and Martin Luther cancelled each other out, and the witch laughed.
can i suggest a tax on farting?
I noticed that in Ireland we are comparing ourselves to Haiti and saying “things are not so bad”
Well if we have to use Haiti as a example of a country that is in a worse predicament then us then we truly are in the shitter
@Frances — what are they covered in? Anything yummy? Mmm.. bonds… “om nom nom!”
there’s the champ coming. in his new golf pants.
well hello snoot. you going hunting in your new outfit?
@mother earth
http://www.lowtechmagazine.be/2008/03/de-donkere-kant.html
ghandi, martin luther. lead. witch of these things does not belong?
@Stacey:
Does anyone want to talk about covered bonds?
Bill Maher On Ending Abusive Relationships – With Your Bank
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaFJoGMVcGU
Ammo better than gold:
http://www.thislife.org/Radio_Episode.aspx?episode=311
This American Life radio show from ’06. Part III starts about 13min in… about a black market ammo dealer in South Chicago who made so much cash that he didn’t know what to do with it. He didn’t trust banks. And he was embarrassed to have so much cash, so he stuffed it in couches and mattresses and sold them cheap to poor folk.
See, this is much more radical or artistic than burning money.
Lead did best the last decade.. and with any bad luck a lot of lead will be circulating..through the air..
@s.herbert
guess what stacy…. I was there too… and it was a haox…. or is it one of those… created memories from the collective consciousness that I use as a totem for expressing my reaction to current events…. dunno… sometimes I get so confused!!!
somebody’s gonna get a bag of gold coins in the head.
ME:
Yes, Obama is doing it too:
http://www.villagevoice.com/2009-05-27/columns/obama-the-political-fixer-works-new-york-s-senate-primary/
@ boon
I believe that it was a annular solar eclipse which is not nearly as spectacular as a full solar eclipse so you did not miss much even if you were in the path of maximum obstruction of the solar disk – evenso it is a very interesting to see a ring of light instead of a disk of light in our sky.
It is not the physical circulating ‘money’ that we should burn, its the fanthom balance sheet money that is not really there that should dissipate asap..
Yes, that’s what makes covered bonds so clever, ME. The fraud is covered ON the books. Well, it’s a sucker’s world as ronron says.
@RonRon — maybe I should just send you some history books.
7.62mm ammo would be another “metal” investment I would recommend — for those in the US and EU, at least — over gold at this point.
gold is money.
Solar Eclipse in India today
Missed it was asleep
lololol
Hic
what are the freakin odds of the De; Beers diamond ring moment
lololololol
peeps dont look at the solar eclipse directly
cause if ya do ya might start asking/thinking like Bonn
“Emm Errr natural phenomenon ?????”
Bullshit
Hic
@Tofu
Gold is for the transition phase, for the collapse. Yes, we probably need a different kind of metal after that, if we individually make it.
@Tofu. you’ll have to show me this time travel machine of yours.
It is worth reading:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methane_clathrate
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmospheric_methane
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arctic_methane_release
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long-term_effects_of_global_warming
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocean_anoxia
@Tofu
Yes I saw The Road (I get the use of the word documentary). My friend was barking on about how boring the film was but i was just sitting there winching, knowing what is coming. Sometimes its very hard to get out of the ‘rabbit in the headlights’ mentality and get up and help yourself. It can be hugely overwhelming.
I also watched Collapse for about the fifth time last night.
@Mother Earth
There is NOTHING to ‘replace’ oil. Yes we will have to move to localisation and that will involve local energy, permaculture etc. But the life we knew it coming to an end. We are moving to a paradigm shift where the concept of constant economical growth meets peak global energy/resources.
@Bonn. morning mate. wonder how he came to that conclusion. hahaha. fuck.
@RonRon — try throwing those 1oz. gold coins at the cannibals, rapists, looters and zombies… you’re buying the wrong sort of metal. You all are.
@Dan II
I would move out now. Where is the utility? Society should be organized in a more robust less centralized way and everybody could be fine caring as much as they normally do about each other (not much actually), because only small groups would be affected at one time.
@Tofu. what ever the fuck you like.
@RonRon — yeah, I’m going to “invest” in some very sharp clay-tempered metal to “protect my assets”. Catherine Fitts will be so proud…
“EXPERTS SAY” This is a dead giveaway about the lack of objectivity. It’s called a generalisation. It’s intended as an expression to indicate that there is a “consensus”. No consensus here, since even the Nasa says EXACTLY the contrary ! The article should mention instead “Some” experts. I insist.
Words are important. It implies that ALL experts have concluded the same thing. It’s maybe the case with Einstein’s law of relativity but it AIN’T with climatology, a young science, with a lot of CONTESTABLE theories still unproven.
Journaliste prove their stupidity and their ignorance when they talk and write about science. You NEVER use “Experts say.” specially when there is no unanimity and are you are dealing with bad science and falsified scientific data.
Sorry. It’s the truth. No mention whatsoever in the article about the contradictory observations by NASA.
http://www.examiner.com/x-1586-Baltimore-Weather-Examiner~y2009m1d21-Oceans-are-cooling-according-to-NASA
were going. the planet is staying.
don’t burn it. buy fucking metal.
@Dork/Cork — hear, hear.
Anyone seen this new documentary, “The Road”…? Fascinating stuff.
almost everyday al gore stinks it up around here.
@Ron — actually, it’s 90% burps. The fart angle is clearly a manipulation of the AGW alarmists…
@Max
Max says that we must burn all fiat currency – fair enough one ,two maybe a million people destroy their paper notes – what happens then , well they print more money and give it to their favourites while the honest revolutionaries are impoverished.
This conundrum reminds me of the actions taken by members of the green movement who wished to reduce consumption and save the planet – this action could never achieve its objective because these peoples savings from not consuming would be simply used to feed the beast.
We are all benefiting from the information explosion of the Internet despite all its flaws, indeed it could be as important as the printing press for the reformation.
The most important difference between now and the reformation is that we are all atomized and are only capable of conveying information and expressing our opinion.
These blogs are for the most part without consequence and people tend to talk a good fight (myself included) but not get involved in grassroots political movements which do have consequences.
Also most of us have still something to lose (if you have gold for example) and will not confront this new papacy and they know it .
So Max while I respect your beliefs and real actions it just ain’t enough
Ahmadinejad calls 9/11 attacks “suspicious”
http://televisionwashington.com/floater_article1.aspx?lang=en&t=1&id=17186
lolololol
Hic
i hear cattle farts are a large problem as well.
Argh. Rich “artists” are the worst. I worked for Marc Rich’s daughter before one of her “shows”… I think the instructions were much like this Scottish Island stunt: burn through as much money as possible, as quickly as possible. Lots of publicity. Not much art.
@Marc Authier – it’s called basic physics
@Mike/Liverpool. is it next week already?
@StacyHerbert. at this point you can still buy gold with fiat. not time to light the match.
@henk
IYou repay the carbon debt of a pv panel in 4 years, the things are guaranteed for 25 and likely to last 40 years. That means at least 21 years of complete carbon neutrality. ‘Savings’ are a distraction to not have to go to zero carbon. Replacing fossil sources should be priority nr. 1
http://www.infowars.com/obama-information-czar-calls-for-banning-free-speech/
http://www.examiner.com/x-1586-Baltimore-Weather-Examiner~y2009m1d21-Oceans-are-cooling-according-to-NASA
The NASA says that oceans are cooling. Al Gore is a big lying fart and these “experts” are full of it. Your Global Warming religion is finished. Something doesn’t add up indeed. “Experts say”. When an article starts that way, you know it’s BULLSHIT.
“Experts say”. Which ones ? SOME experts say. SOME. The truth is that SOME experts are fraudsters. Methane bullshit.
$ bounce Ronron?
Mike
@gonzomarx – it wasn’t a hoax; Jim Reid, who is a friend of mine, was there
@ mother earth
well solar energy is nice for independance but actually itis crap for energy savings! So it is not green at all.
@Mother — Which do you prefer: “I am afraid, therefore you should shut up” — or — “I am afraid, therefore I am right”… they both have a nice ring…
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how much does it cost to get a young girl to nod her head up and down beside pat fucking robertson. fucking piss me off.
america. believe in god and don’t say anything. fuck.
@Authier
Let’s all keep talking until the water (literaly) stops us..
Launched a new domain.. http://www.heliostat.org
And actually got a 14.000 Euro solar pv project..
LIke the term “EXPERTS”. I would be useful to know who paid thes experts ? I can bet you 1000$ it’s the same gang of bastard wanting to sell you their carbon credit carbon crap “Con”tracts. “Experts” ? Tell me who finances you I will tell you what type of conclusion you will give. Are their studies as serious as the ICPP or fhe crooks from East Anglia. Follow the money. Who paid for the freakin studies ? Bet you it’s that big satanic methane fart Al-Capone-Gore ?
don’t know who’s lying but pat robertson is a fucking asshole. he’s out there saying haiti made a deal with the devil. i hate him and his god.
You should add that the ocean is cooling. That’s the conclusion by the Nasa. There lies the contradiction. My conclusion ? Someone is damn liar.
This is scary, a republican telling Obama not to support the democrat competition. ‘Stay away’… or what? Democracy must truly be dead if candidates are free to (try to) intimidate other candidates of their support, especially calling to shut them out can not happen in a democracy.. http://tinyurl.com/ycay83j
paul craig roberts has an interesting piece over at http://www.whatreallyhappened.com
have fun gang . . . hope to find resolutions to the world’s plight when I return later. work on it, will ya
no problem ronron, if it weren’t for you being alone and all, I might have sparred ME my contemplations . . .
Max:
“We are not ants amongst a queen toiling our lives away so that we may die as compatible, interchangeable components of a regime we neither voted for or support”
Unfortunately we are considered as such. The banking chiefs study entomology not economics. It underpins their every thought.
This is the mindset of our opponent!
It is not the physical circulating ‘money’ that we should burn, its the fanthom balance sheet money that is not really there that should dissipate asap..
@GM
s’ppose it’s one of those … if you don’t know why… it probably don’t matter…. coz you aint really there…. situations….t also for them as artists… it’ would be kinda self defeating to admit it was a hoax!!!
@Dan11. thanks, i get pissed when they put me alone on a new page.
Hey ME
You remember that ridiculous, oops I mean that thoughtful video you made about deciding who liars are? You might get your way. Here in these United States of Amerika, we have a splendid chap heading up the information office who thinks any theory not officially sanctioned is a conspiracy theory and should be punished. His office will be renamed The Ministry of Truth.
http://www.infowars.com/obama-information-czar-calls-for-banning-free-speech/
That last sentence was a joke (I think). Don’t want to confuse you.
bankers give cock sucking a bad name.
here kitty kitty kitty.
yeah i heard stories that it was a hoax but they have stuck to their guns about burning the money if not the reason why.
i don’t believe in disorders.
@ME. huh. his ass. husband?
ronron
ME is a little slow on the up take . . .
@GM
cool… but I think it was a bit of a hoax… explanation… huh…. you know what these artists are like!!!
YEP I GET IT!!! They did this in ROME!!
Escapism and distraction are social control
A society of Spectacle live to work to sell to buy to live to work to sell to buy… a vicious circle in perpetual destruction.
The Spectacle infiltrates and distracts, the Spectacle is the way we experience life. Television, film, the media and Internet all serve to further our distraction from what is real by distracting the imagination and removing action.
The Spectacle is the distraction of the masses. The Spectacle says “everything that appears is good, whatever is good will appear.”
http://fruttadimare.blogspot.com/2008/10/spectacle-of-distraction.html
http://ezinearticles.com/?Escapism-and-Distraction-As-a-Social-Control-During-the-Roman-Empire&id=1994197
@ronron
Wear your spectacles, she is a she!
@ronron – lightbulb, LOL
dagnabit you canadian cocksucker . . . I spit coffee on my nice new shiny flat screen monitor!
@Mike/Liverpool. yes she’s married. blackwater has a lightbulb up his ass as we speak.
K Foundation – Burn A Million Quid (Uncut) part 4:6
http://tinyurl.com/yjbdqgx
” K Foundation (an art duo consisting of Bill Drummond and Jimmy Cauty) burnt one million pounds sterling in cash on the Scottish island of Jura. This money represented the bulk of the K Foundation’s funds, earned by Drummond and Cauty as The KLF, one of the United Kingdom’s most successful pop groups of the early 1990s. The duo have never fully explained their motivations for the burning”
Birgitta Jonsdottir
Is she married?
Mike
@Y’all
you couldn’t make this shit up…. oh I forgot YOU LOT obviously can!!!
Meh… bourgeois “radicals” burning fiat currency as symbolic protest: it’s not really shocking in this age of ridiculous spectacle. Instead, it’s a slap in the face to the majority who live day-to-day without the prospect of saving or investing. It turns them off your message, ’cause they see you burning food, medicine, shelter… If any of these boyish fantasies of a violent mass-uprising come about, they’ll lynch y’all and feast on your bloated and irrelevant investor carcasses while you yelp, “Wait, I warned you about fractional reser–”
Hmm.. what’s gold doing today…
Have a little money (metals) set aside, but be prepared to live without money. Recall that the Japanese and Germans amassed fortunes in gold from those who thought wealth could buy safety.
methane gas? the credit card companys and banks are making millions of the haiti relief effort.
@Max
It seems that if someone was able to erase all international bank data that would destroy the problem pretty effectively.
That was ~75 Euro btw..a lot of croissants..
@Max
how about a guide to disengagement from the system authored by you and Catherine Ausin Fitts and Gerald Celente?
also, would love to see you interview Gore Vidal who years ago predicted most of what’s happening now.
Conspiracy of silence as nationals ignore News of the World’s £800,000 payout
http://tinyurl.com/yj8qlsl
@Max, All
Obama’s Green Jobs Go To Prison Slaves
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiaXijTEpRI
short and to the point, inerview with US congressman Dave Camp
a good news discussion on rebuilding Haiti
http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid1184614595?bctid=61764039001
@maxkeiser
YEAH… BURN BABY BURN… well I’ve got enough real memories of my own…and no need to adopt anybody elses…. typical…. reminds me of your xmas/nu year special… radio show…. with your posh guests… er you asked “so will you be rioting then???”… so will you or have you ever rioted MAX.???
Mother Earth
This is how it’s done
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqqj0_ecFkM
@Max
Like so? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-55fLML378
@Max or Stacy
Have you guys seen ‘Collapse’ yet? The Mike Ruppert movie. He’s a friend of Catherine A Fitts/Colin Campall/Richard Heinberg
@david
Did you see those armed gardai in Finglas last night? Do they make you feel safer?
http://www.clydeandforthmedia.co.uk/crop/280/210/images/78/1239717959.jpg
SG
The apocryphal vs. the actual
Our collective consciousness has created memories of events we use at totems in expressing our reaction to current events
To quibble over details over past events (bankers jumping from windows) undermines the value of what we, as sentient beings, must consider as actionable truth
We are not ants amongst a queen toiling our lives away so that we may die as compatible, interchangeable components of a regime we neither voted for or support
We are revolutionaries at heart and the embers still burn
The enemy prints trillions of lies in the form of bogus fiat currency
We must burn it all
Hey Max, not that many bankers jumped out of their windows during the great depressions.
Well, not more than the average. Galbraith wrote a book about the great depression in the States, and looked at the statistics of the number of suicides in the 30s compared to previous records and he noted that there wasn’t a huge increase. certainly not a massive jump (pardon the pun) when the stories about the leaping bankers were most frequent. yes there were a few, but they did it in public (a crowd apparently had gathered) so the perception is that there were many more than there were actually.
If you wanna see an industry in crisis that really causes workers to commit suicides, check out what’s happening with Indian farmers, and of course Japanese young adults.
Perhaps we should tax them so much that they decide to move to Switzerland, then we can help them along the way with an ‘assisted’ suicide.
@Max
Still you are talking about only 8% of the world population that is on the audiovisual pacifier, and energy requirements of that are insane ~unsustainable. When people grow hungry they’ll lose interest in internet.
The Arctic fart will make all CO2 reduction schemes meaningless and turn this planet tropical, if not suffocate it outright. There are many dead methane giants in the universe. We’d heat up to a couple of hundred degrees. Methane sticks around for hundreds of thousands of years, it is better to burn it into CO2, but of course we need the oxygen, there’s the rub..Still think we’re on the right track?
Good news is the ocean acidification is not so much caused by methane, so there may be time to at least reduce the effects. Of course the exploited masses will not become aware of that option before they let some doctor suck the feaces out of their skull..
Dan II
Jan 15, 2010 at 3:02 am
The best quote is all is from Chrales Schults who has “Lucy Van Pelt” say in his comic strip “Peanuts”,
“I have never nade a mistake in my life, I thought I did once, but I was wrong.”
The economy is a sub-set of the ecology
The ecology is the collateral that forms the foundation of the economy
As the ecology collapses; services like air, water, and food that have been free for thousands of years will become unaffordable for most of the world, including most of the US and Britain.
Not to reverse man-made causes and trends in climate change, deforestation, ocean acidification, fish stock depletion, etc. etc. etc. is financial and corporal suicide
The way to avoid the obvious action needed to preserve human life is to constantly keep the population in a perpetual state of suspended spectacle.
You don’t on singing on them do you Max?
Can you flush up a warning if you do?
I see a small $ bounce today & no TOB for the £
Mike
@maxkeisers
er… posted links about this on here before…. bankers windows.. urban myth!!!
‘The 1929 historical tale of guys jumping out of buildings in the opening hours of the Great Depression is part of the ongoing urban legend associated with dark financial days. But an actual look at the data shows something else, entirely.
A subtle background theme is that the people on the street in 1929 wanted the bankers to jump. Is there a similar feeling today?
Will Rogers observed, “When Wall Street took that tail spin, you had to stand in line to get a window to jump out of, and speculators were selling space for bodies in the East River.”
But it just wasn’t true.
The scholarly economist John Kenneth Galbraith addressed the topic in his book The Great Crash, 1929, (published in 1955). Studying U.S. death statistics, Galbraith found that while the U.S. suicide rate increased steadily between 1925 and 1932, during October and November of 1929, the number of suicides was low.
But it is like anything else, if you look hard enough, you will find suicides that seem to be related to the Great Crash and the Great Depression.
On Friday, November 8, 1929, J. J. Riordan, president of the County Trust Company, took a gun from a teller’s cage at his bank, went to his home in downtown Manhattan, and used it to kill himself. The news was suppressed until after the bank closed at noon Saturday, to avoid causing a run on the bank.
A vice president of the Earl Radio Corporation jumped to his death from the window of a Manhattan hotel. His suicide note read, “We are broke. Last April I was worth $100,000. Today I am $24,000 in the red.” But that deadly event happened in early October, weeks before the Great Crash.
Jesse Livermore, perhaps the most famous of the Wall Street speculators, shot himself – but not until 1940.
Several well-publicized suicides did fulfill the urban mythical stereotype. Winston Churchill, visiting New York City, was awakened the day after Black Tuesday (October 29, 1929) by the noise of a crowd outside the Savoy-Plaza Hotel. “Under my very window a gentleman cast himself down fifteen storeys and was dashed to pieces, causing a wild commotion and the arrival of the fire brigade,” he wrote.
In 1929: The Year of the Great Crash (1989), historian William K. Klingaman noted that asphyxiation by gas was the most common method of suicide, although there was considerable variety. I found this true throughout the early 1900s. Klingaman wrote:
The wife of a Long Island broker shot herself in the heart; a utilities executive in Rochester, New York, shut himself in his bathroom and opened a wall jet of illuminating gas; a St. Louis broker swallowed poison; a Philadelphia financier shot himself in his athletic club; a divorcee in Allentown, Pennsylvania, closed the doors and windows of her home and turned on a gas oven. In Milwaukee, one gentleman who took his own life left a note that read, ‘My body should go to science, my soul to Andrew W. Mellon, and sympathy to my creditors.’
maxkeiser
Jan 15, 2010 at 2:56 am
Two Keiser Reports is good. I like this format as it gives time for good coverage.
Max you had better clone Stacy or else she will be in danger due to overwork.
Might you consider replacing Conan OBrien on NBC each night for about $40 million per year?
Ben Goldacre on Big Phama, Anti Vaccine and Global Warming
http://tinyurl.com/lob28g
The Press Allowed At The Tea-Party Convention
Fox News
Breitbart.com
Townhall.com
The Wall Street Journal
World Net Daily
http://tinyurl.com/ycgefza
(no dissent then?)
Hang them all and hang them high !! Im hungry but it wont save any of us..
Yep were doooomed dooomed aint nothing can stop us going extinct like the flash of a firework.
All life is connected, it appears our job is to destroy it, so it destroys us, and balance returns, tested stressed and better.
Were so perfect in our destruction, down to genetic mutation accidents!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yud3ymLsuao&feature=fvhl
Outstanding. Always a treat listening to M&S. You two are 100% correct 99% of the time.
Outstanding. Always a treat listening to M&S. You two are 100% correct 99% of the time.
ofcourse nothing to do with the weakening of the earth magnetic field, geo engineering, solar activity etc. Anyways why keep posting this climate hype bullshit? i thought this site was about economics/politics. all networks beside fixed/faux news jump on this all day. We are all going to die unless we pay carbon taxes, let speculators create an even bigger derivates bubble, probably kill 80% + of the population etc. And i thought max only cared about his gold, living standard without moral consent. No time to become hypocrite, don’t care for billion people starving, million people bombed to death in iraq etc. shouldn’t care for the fake environmental issues either (BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE PART OF THE ENVIRONMENT/ECOSYSTEM). Haven’t read 1 post about real issues; plastics/toxic waste dumping etc. It’s like whale wars; due to that dolphins are slaughtered in masses, there’s only more aggression/military industrial complex cashes in and no perspective at all of a SOLUTION. Everyone who thinks the earth is going to end due to global warming/too much people and do not want to look for solutions/only keep hammering on fake data: go look for a cliff.
Starting next week we two new “Keiser Report” shows a week for RT
Lol Max. In the 30′s bankers actually went bankrupt! Let’s help them in that regard and the rest will take care of itself.
All roads lead to Wall St.
In the ’30′s, bankers jumped out of windows.
Maybe they need some help this time.
A nice graph on house prices across most of the G20, which Steve Keen’s picked up from The Economist.
http://www.debtdeflation.com/blogs/2010/01/12/how-expensive-is-housing/
South Africa is the only place where they bubbled up more than Ireland. US was relatively sober compared to Britain or Ireland.
Japan, going through it’s lost decade, may be the ghost of future prices for many.
@Max
If we continue to chase ghosts, we will perish. Meanwhile, toxins in our food and enviorment are not getting the attention they should because of the warming boogie man.
My avatar will be stored in hi-res on a USB-stick deep beneath Denver Airport…
Humans will perish, but our avatars will live forever.
Cue,.MotherEarth,..: )
Yup… google search vols reveals this was of significant interest in the years before “An Inconvenient Truth”… and then it was left behind in favour of C02 hysteria. Methane release isn’t modeled and isn’t part of the climate projections… ’cause you can’t regulate peat bogs.
http://catastrophist.wordpress.com/2009/12/16/google-search-methane-hydrates-climate-debate/
When will Alec Baldwin give Max & Stacy permission to talk about the climate scandals?
More hokim pokim scary okum.
The article states that artic methane contributes 2% to global methane. A 31% increase would mean the artic now contributes about 2.6% to global methane. Furthermore, they don’t even measure the methane directly, but used satellite measurements of variations in groundwater depth, which alter the way bacteria break down organic matter to release or consume methane.
Sorry, I have to see more than a single study and verification from honest scientists before I’d get too concerned about this article.
Another old story recycled…
I wondered what that smell was.