Stacy Summary: I wonder if these two headlines have anything to do with each other? And I wonder who BAE had to bribe to get this contract? Oh yeah, they are one of those too big to fail, too big to investigate firms. Sorry, won’t ask that about them again.
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ding ding ding unos
Raising the alert level is just a sign that an election is coming. This is a proven method of manipulating the vote during the G.W.Bush administration. Enhancing the fear level drives people to want to return to the familiar, the government you’ve got. It worked like a charm in 2004 in the U.S.A. Of course, Americans are more paranoid than most so It may not be transferable to the U.K. But Mr. Brown may be desperate enough to try anything at this point.
@ Steve
I dont think its about election this time its about a world wide distraction
Hic
@steve – in my experience, the Brits and the Europeans are not as scared of terrorism; I guess they have a longer history with it and that happened during a time prior to cable news amplifying the fear message of private military contractors and hawkers software systems?
terror is possible any time any place anywhere without lots of funding, without much of organization.
But in this case terror is done with lots of funding and a lot of organization by the government.
Terror threat set to severe: This forum and others have been discussing that for over a month. It is an establishment scheduled event and not a terrorist one. The money markets must be busy right now.
Re: surveilance.. the only thing to be thankful for is that BAE are involved and they are acutely useless at developing technology.
Their expertise is in managing patents for technology (Haarp) and thus have been working for the gulag state for sometime. They are also good at deriving income from the taxpayer and helping terrorists in Saudi Arabia as the Prince Bander episode revealed.
Horny sky bobbies peeping down your blouse?
@stacy
That is exactly what I try to explain to friend in the US. WE had war in Paris you didn’t stand beside a bin. In London you knew on your citytrip you knew the Ira could hit again.
I think it will be used to monitor drug trafficking more than anything else..It is impossible to get to a crimescene with a blimp and you can’t see what people are thinking…
“undertake commercial work” … I guess that could include for example guarding m#nsanto crops from citizen action.
I thought even in the US the admitted it was an bullsh*t concept; and it was ended, Are the people in the UK still falling for this trick? not that crazy; took over 7 years to figure out something very obvious if history was properly studied; no wmd’s in iraq or connections with al qaida. Anyways the “spy” grid goes extremely far; from unmanned drones able to recognize people based on biometric data to programs like echelon but most interesting is the datamining part. Kathrine albrecht is someone who talks about rfid technology and datamining alot, maybe a good guest for keiser report/on the edge? The cctv camera system failed on 7/7 beside the drills that took place for exact the same targets at the same time and more “coincidences”. But all roads in the end always lead to banksters, no surprise BAE is involved; maybe the defence department in UK wants to increase/maintain its budget too, too much special interests working together all for their own benefit.
And this story goes with it:
I’m sure BAE’s alleged spy drones will be just as bogus as the other fake devices and software programs being sold for many millions to taxpayers around the world. These are our modern day ‘capitalists’. . . selling subprime goods and tainted milk and offering fake services.
…another new way of controlling the citizenry is the car black box already in use which does not let you exceed the local limit and interestingly doesnt let you drive after 11pm.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/working_lunch/default.stm
…also Stacey you and Henk are right about terrorism in Europe; in London you made damn sure to say goodbye to your loved ones in the morning. Thanks, Noraid.
Hey Max
Many happy returns of the day
Cheers Hic
@Stacy
That Iraq magic machine story was posted by one of this blogs star commenters
I think these cctv sources should be open sourced (publicly accessible). They are easily hacked into apparently http://online.wsj.com/article/SB126102247889095011.html
Is it the need for security that develop the technology or is it the technology that invents the need? – I think I’ve seen this before.
@Palantíri; that’s where statistics come in handy, compare the people killed by terrorism (even in deliberate destabilised regions like pakistan) to people killed in car accidents.
Here’s a good picture although it’s old numbers still shows whats going on with war numbers; http://www.prosebeforehos.com/government_employee/06/22/civilian-death-statistics-in-iraq-afghanistan-compared/
There’s a need for security but the media/government is able to selectively enforce it; while ignoring real issues. Just like haiti suddenly people care about other people with nothing? that’s great there’s about a billion more that have nothing, reasons/causes are a different debate. War isn’t about “freedom”/”democracy” good for anything it’s all about profits/power/control.
Always technology that invents the need !!!
I wish I was a Farmer in the Punjab
Hic
Interesting read …
http://messages.finance.yahoo.com/Stocks_(A_to_Z)/Stocks_S/threadview?m=tm&bn=72878&tid=169258&mid=169258&tof=5&rt=2&frt=2&off=1
@ Stacey Herbert
Christie’s drops human skull from auction
http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/01/22/new.york.skull.auction/index.html?hpt=T2
H/T ??????
Strange if you remember the times of real terrorism in The Netherlands and Germany. In the Netherlands you had the Moluccas and in Germany the RAF (Baader-Meinhof Group).
The Moluccas felt betrayed by the Dutch government cause they were promised their own land in Indonesia but after WOII we couldn’t do anything about it cause the Americans took over Indonesia, sort of, in their influence.
Some of the Molluc youngsters hijacked a train and there was a very grim situation. But never I can remember this was hyped like it would ahve been today. Maybe also because WOII thoughts were still there so people knew what horror could be evoked.
Today we’re mainly talking about fake terrorism indeedy practiced to make some people rich on the fear mongering.
I suggest we call for a AIRLINE BOYCOT!!!!! They have to remove all the BS 3D Scanners otherwise WE DON”T FLY! I can guarantee you that these scanner would be removed tomorrow if they knew nobody would put up with it. But because people became such nannies they can pull it off.
There nothing wrong with the good ol frisking if they really think there’s a thread which in most cases there isn’t. If there is an attack it normally is an inside job like the boy in Amsterdam was led on the plane by Mossad, without search and a passport.
@ Youri
is an inside job like the boy in Amsterdam was led on the plane by Mossad, without search and a passport.
Need to correct ya it was’nt Mossad tis time
It was RAW agent a branch of Indian Intellegence
I was shocked to find out that Indian Govt. was behind it
or played some roll
Hic but we caught ‘em
Is it okay to celebrate our own birthday? I am, I was not, then I came to be, I cannot remember not being, no it is a day of celebration dedicated to the mother and father, but you could use this day as a reference to remind oneself that you’ve survived so and so many winters and summers…
anyway, Happy Birthday @Timothy Keiser.
& remember I told ya’ll I was offered a Job with an Israely Co. Which I turned down (was related to Military Industry)
Hic
@Bonn
Haaretz reports Israeli firm allowed underwear bomber on plane in Amsterdam http://tinyurl.com/yk7kmhf
To be clear “Israeli firm” = Mossad.
@Bonn
Look Bonn, if I talk about something I am not talking out of my little neck hairs. If I am speculating I will say so.
More evidence that Japanese family finances are starting to suffer. As the savings decrease who is going to buy the worthless Japanese government bonds?
http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nb20100122n1.html
@ Youri
What I am trying to tell ya Indian Govt. is heavily Involved with Israely firms Including Mossad
How do you think we got Stealth Technology
Indian Scientest aint that brainy
Well Our Govt. decided why invest in R&D why don’t we just get pally with the Israelys
If, I know ya musta not being paying attention But our Indian Govt. is a Swiss bitch when it comes to Israel -Palestinen conflict ->”Neutral”
I have also worked at SERC IISc they really underfunded
Hic
@Bonn
Come to think of it that you are referring to the Indian looking guy who did the talking for the boy at the flight desk. So they really found out he was Indian? Tell me about it? Links please?
This was witnessed by an American Advocate who testified on the AJS. He said they (Israeli security firm on Schiphol airport firm/Mossad) wouldn’t release the film. Have they released the film now?
And I got it from Bob Chapman I think will have to again search too lazy
Hic
And Nigera is full of Indian Immigrants I think we the largest Immigrant Population in Nigera
The Violence there is crazy
Peeps will kill ya for wearing a costly brand of clothing and the reason the kill u even if you plead take everything is that the street offenders dont like to leave any witnesses on even a petty robbing
“Dead man tell no tales”
Hic
@Bonn
Never mind I know it was inside job whoever was involved. These secret services all work together against the people, we know.
Happy birthday Max
Don’t sing!
T.O.B:-
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601102&sid=a5NPz8dDJk2Y
Coming but years away!
Mike
good article on why Japan continues to hunt whales
http://www.asahi.com/english/TKY201001220363.html
@Phil,…Rib/loud speaker!! Classic ; )
Alert, alert, I just woke up from a terrifying dream. Not kidding.
But my bet is that y’all should be as worried about my alert as you are the “highly likely” terrorist attack in the UK.
One of the things I’m worried about is the privatization of intelligence gathering. Who is to say that the “internet chatter” that spawned the UK terrah threat being raised to severe didn’t come from a private company? Also worried about the planned misrepresentation to the public of what the drones were to be used for. Guess we can stop deluding ourselves in the US now that OUR drones are used *just* to keep track of the waters surrounding the US-Canadian border and Mexicans crossing the other border.
Subprime goods is right, Stacy. Wonder if just anybody can hack into those UK drones like the *terrorists* can hack into the US drones in the Middle East? If so, civil liberties groups have ANOTHER reason to be on alert.
@ Maxkeiser – Happy Birthday, man!
I fell asleep watching Brazil last night. Gotta love dystopian terrorist flicks, especially in this day and age.
America’s Shadow Government: Part One Date :October 06, 2008
I dont think its the Alex Jones one trying to find it should be up somewhere by now
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1S2CzgjRm4&feature=related
Hic
Happy Birthday from some eighties chick http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40K2S0-5Xo0
@ Youri
Also all our Z- category Security Personell
are trained by the Mossad
They are in charge of our Prime Minister’s inner most Security
tis lunatic is me grand mums first cousin
->http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanwar_Pal_Singh_Gill
When I met tis idiot at a cousins wedding (I am an Inch Taller than him standing @ 6’5″ hes 6’4″)
The first thing he blurted out was “Hieght is’nt eveything” My hieght offended his dummas Ego
Hic
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanwar_Pal_Singh_Gill
MAX!!!
happy happy birthday
i love you and i love when you sing &
i’m always super-grateful for all your insight
xxxoooxxx
@ Youri
ROFL
Why do ya think I am un afraid as long as I’am in India
Me familys getting back Into Politics thats my generation after a 50 year haitus Hic
The Way a family gets back Into politics is to first capture the Police Department as well as the High Court Judge position which has already been done
Wink Wink
I know a lot more than ya think
Hic
@ max Keiser
I agree with GB
Song Sing Song of your choice Sing Song Sing Song of your choice SingSong Sing Song of your choice SingSong Sing Song of your choice SingSong Sing Song of your choice SingSong Sing Song of your choice SingSong Sing Song of your choice SingSong Sing Song of your choice Sing
Hic
@ Phil?Germany Interesting Read, about the cards…
Here is my take……Let her eat shrimp lol as she demands it!!!! Why?
IF
Fraudulent Invention Demand =>Debt Creation
And
Debt = Fiat Money
Then
Fraudulent Invention Demand = Fiat Money
Where
Fraudulent Invention Demand => Electronic Debt => Electronic Money
Therefore
She can eat what she wants If Fraudulent Invented Demand is useful as a form of money creation and quantitative easing lol
No one cares any more!
@Bonn
ahaaahhah ! That reminds me of Sarkozy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0a5pMHaD-tM
To compensate for their height they often have a fanatic drive for power positions, these little people.
Other question:
Because you know a thing or two about India – What is the best place in India to be? Friendly People, Karma and Nature wise speaking? (I like to have some sea in the neighborhood though if possible?)
Let the boy sing, its his birthday for fuck sake.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwDN9UMMi3c
Benny Goodman & His Orchestra – Sing Sing Sing
An NZ story, not Ireland:
5,000 queue for supermarket jobs in NZ
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/01/22/2799419.htm
Over the past two days, 5,000 people turned up to apply for 150 positions at a new supermarket in Auckland.
A doctor was among those in the queue.
New Zealand might be officially out of recession, but many Kiwis are still doing it tough; the number of New Zealanders receiving an unemployment benefit jumped 13 per cent last month.
One teenage girl clutching her resume outside Countdown in the South Auckland suburb of Manukau said she had not done a day of paid work since leaving school early last year.
Some people lined for up for seven hours. The interviews lasted about 10 minutes.
But one teenager was trying to stay positive despite the huge crowd.
“I think I’m the one. I’ve got everything in this package,” she quipped.
Others in the line were there to offer support.
“I work for an organisation called Elevator who support people with disabilities in employment,” a woman said.
“And I’m here with one of my candidates today to take her through the process of applying for a job and hopefully it’s a successful outcome for her at the end of it.”
Darryl Evans, who works for Budgeting and Family Support services in South Auckland, says the economic climate makes it hard if potential employees have middle or higher management skills.
And Mr Evans says there are a growing number of Kiwi families that are not coping.
“They’re finding it hard to put food on the table,” he said. “They’re certainly finding it hard to maintain private rentals.
“There’s a lot of desperation and certainly within our service we’ve seen a lot of families who are presenting. And depression is right up there, so there’s a lot of despair.
“But there’s also some hope. There’s hope that there is going to be change. You’ll see today that there’s hope because these people are hopeful that they’re going to get a job.”
One man in the line who did not want to give his name said he was desperate for work after being laid off last year.
He says he does not care if the pay is low and the hours are unsociable. He just wants to be back in the work force.
“I’m qualified as a butcher but I’ll be applying for produce, seeing as I’m not touching pork any more,” he said.
The manager of the supermarket, Wayne Dohmen, says many of the people who stayed in line waited for a number of hours.
“It just goes to prove that there are some people out here that are pretty desperate for work and are pretty committed to do whatever it takes to try and get some form of work within the local community,” he said.
He says the supermarket’s employees are not paid according to their age and all will receive the same rate.
The starting rate of $NZ13.59 ($10.71) is $NZ1 more an hour than the minimum wage.
The candidates will find out in the next three weeks if they have been lucky enough to get a job.
Weren’t y’all talking about this a couple of weeks back?
Vatican bank accused of laundering
http://www.youtube.com/user/russiatoday?blend=1&ob=4&rclk=cth
The US economy is kaput, 20 reasons:
http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/economic-black-hole-20-reasons-why-the-u-s-economy-is-dying-and-is-simply-not-going-to-recover
+ charts
+ graphs
If you have seen The Cave documentary you will find this article interesting. Some Japanese researches have found that the people of Taiji (the town at the centre of the documentary) have ten times the average mercury levels.
http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nn20100123a2.html
@ Youri
I never recomend any forigners to buying property in India as yet because the masses are still un educated
British expats fear losing homes in Goan land grab
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article6841248.ece
Ya can Visit for 2 months that would be a good option
or If ya have extra cash to maybe plunder -> meaning you could aford to loose it if the local community went looney and got Jealous of your property at some point in time in the future then and only then go ahead.
On the spirituality thing cant help ya I am an athiest.
And there are a lotta con artists here .
I personally think all of em are
But before ya think of heading here
Give me a heads up on who or which Ashram your heading for
Will give ya on a scale of 1- 10 its Autheniticity
1 beeing good 10 -> dont bother
Hic
Mom feeds family on $4/week.
http://www.wimp.com/momfamily/
Sarkozy Short prick
LOLOLOLOL
@ Youri I am sure ya did’nt understand a word of that Clip but surprising ya got the Gist of it
ROFL
Hic
HappyBirthday, Max!
@Bonn
TnX Bonn, moneys tight to mention anyways now. But always have plans which keeps you alive.
@ Youri
Otherwise I woulda already been telling peeps to buy in India lololol
Its not safe to Invest personal money in Indian Real Estate for Personal use
Hell Its not safe for an Indian to buy Land in India
Got so many Indian friends living in India involved in Legal Battles over property
Cases can last well over 20 years here
LOL
Hic
another good birthday song for max keiser
http://dailymotion.virgilio.it/video/x3qz4k_manu-dibango-soul-makossa_music
(reissue)
The US economy is kaput, 20 reasons (but more readable):
http://www.thecomingdepression.net/main-street/deindustrialization/20-reasons-the-us-will-never-recover-why/
@ Youri
I read an Article on why some short peeps make it big along with Tall Peeps
Well Short Peeps never get a break in Life so they always fighting
For tall peeps every one wants them to lead
the in-bitweens are the herds
or something to that affect
Oooh now will have to Google a lot again.
ROFL
Hic
I think the article was based on Danny Divitos success
Hic
Carla Bruni (5’9″)must be Pissed off in Life
She cant wear High HeeLs
Sarcozy (5’6″)
ROFL PMSL
Hic
The interesting thought concerning the Supreme Court ruling is that the city-state Washington represents a corporation, not a people. It is the same underlying premise as the city of London:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_of_London_Corporation
The ‘federal government’ is a sham bankers front for the corporate whose interests are uniquely tied to the City of London Corporation.
The unfortunate deception is that we are operating in a ‘democracy’. Congress is a sham, and they well know it.
The entire fiasco is set to go through CORPORATE BANKRUPTCY.
@skokyo jake – thanks for your links regarding Japan; I’m sure most on this board will also find them interesting as stories from Japan are too few and far between here . . . thanks for filling in that gap
Perfectionism when applied to security doesn’t work. If lives are so precious one would expect a different society than we see today..
The Corporate USA has used the public school system as a means of manipulating and deceiving the free people of the US. The system is soon to be privatized through the No child left behind provisions of a federal/corporate legislation which most probably is VOLUNTARILY followed by our state governments. All federal legislation INCLUDING TAXATION is completely voluntarily adhered to. This includes the draft for the Queen’s press-gang servitude in the US military.
With the bankruptcy of the corporation, the US ‘citizen’ will be left adrift without state government (the states are all undergoing bankruptcy) or corporate care.
FBI/CIA has no legal jurisdiction whatsoever.
The bankers have had their way with us.
The title to the lands in the US will be asserted legally as part of the Queen’s commonwealth.
The fabrication is not the words I type but the lies fed to Americans through those in service to the federal corporate or the queen’s interests.
Please feel free to correct any errors I’ve made without attacking my person.
@Danny – yes! thanks for that link
@Danny – if you could only hear @maxkeiser now . . . . singing away in the local cafe . . . the French like his singing
Those who assign evil should really delve deeply into the legal writ behind the insanity. It’s a fascinating labryrinth.
And the ‘rule of law’ is justified through the tyranny of deceit.
@Stacy
I would like it if you two could go over the oil interview again, because to be honest I’m not sure I’m getting it. You talked about credit being based on future oil revenues and the futures market not setting the price (this being set by the cartel). My question remains what does this mean in terms of vulnerability fo financial system collapse and/or laws against derivatives. Also how much influence do banks have on the price?
This is what Papa Bush was referring to: a rule of law. The latest supreme court decision was not without precedent! The precedent will become apparent when the free people are bankrupted by their own loyalties.
@ Stacey Herbert
Cant say we’ll behave like the French
But an Encore of his singing ability is requested
Maybe on truth about comments tis sunday
LOL
Hic
Greyson/Paul/Geiththtner/et al. continue to lie and deceive until that time when the rule of law maintains order without the necessary accompanying deception.
Patriots, yes, of the corporate US. Cheerleaders for nostalgia and wars.
Star size comparison
http://www.wimp.com/starsize/
@ Snoot
I just told ya how a family gets into politics
Hic
Nothings gonna happen to Timmy, Pauly n the likes
My only problem was untill 2007 I did’nt know How corrupt the US was I thought only our Indian Politicians were corrupt.
When I found Out some Senator in the US is worth 365 billion dollars
I was shocked I thought Indian Politicians were small fry
compared to US Senators
Very few of em are not corrupt
Hic
@stacyherbert
I you get fed up with the singing just mention Assurancetourix , the French folks know what to do
@Bonn:
The US changed around 1871, Bonn. But I doubt that corruption was ever far from those servicing the royals anyway. The hypocrisy of those that hide behind the Queen’s skirts and point the finger at the US corporation which serves her interests (all the while perhaps knowing that this is so) is really rather putrid.
And now we have the Beast of Yeat’s imagination crawling about and gnawing on the furniture.
Being an agnostic, I wonder why anyone would believe that King James could be trusted with the words of ‘god’?
They really really are doing ‘god’s work’.
LOL Max singing (Assurancetourix) http://tinyurl.com/ycgw23s
@Bonn:
Chapter 7 is my guess for the US?
@ Snoot
I Think its First Chapter 11 (Govt Aid: 2BIG2FAIL)
Hey Infacts thats what is going on now
Hic
then Chapter 6/7
We are talkin about bankcruptsy right ???
ROFL
Hic
No wonder the Fema site lists the land as the commonwealth.
I don’t suppose it matters, bonn.
Map: Depiction of unemployment growth
http://www.wimp.com/unemploymentgrowth/
@ Youri
(1970′s I thinkbefore I was born)
Nom nom
I lost 125 acres of farmland because a God Dam Govt. built Dam which directed the river over me land
Actually 1000 acres , 125 was legally mine
After that Blow I think Our family Decided to get back into Politics
Gonna fuck ‘em again If anyone trys shit against tis family
Hic
It’s been a humongous task re-building the wealth I gues we are at 2 – 5 % as of now I think strategically speakin but the High court Judge is cool accomplishment
Hic
The City is preparing the enslavment chineese style of the british cattle.
@Snoot,
I don’t see anything that is out of line at all considering where we are right now and what we know NOW.
I do have a question, when you speak of the Queen you speaking metaphorically or you really are speaking of the Queen? How is the Queen’s commonwealth asserted here?
@Youicarma,
Great Video! We get so wrapped up in ourselves. But I can’t help noticing how truly different earth is among all of the hot, dead stars and planets…….
Drones over the UK, what utter nonsense. But just look at the corporate money that is generated by this. wooooo hooo!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/23/dean-pierson-dairy-farmer_n_434107.html
@Mep re: cows
Very sad story. You can read the desperation, anger and depression between the lines. Very sad.
But you know, to the global elites, JP Morgan and Goldman Sachs and Barak Obama, this is just a very small blip and nobody cares.
UK is the next fascist state with the USA. Sad this drone stuff ? No REVOLTING ! Gordon Brown is a perfect shit like Obama. I don’t know when people will wake up. It’s always the same stupid argument. It’s to protect you. In reality these bastards are thinking of their own protection and the bankster’s protection when shit hits the fan. UK is effectively becoming as fascist as the USA. What they used in Irak and Pakistan will be also used on you.
@Naomi:
I’m sorry for my rant: it is considered ‘extremist’ to speak of these things in the US. The question regarding the commonwealth is one you’ll need to research: but interestingly, the Queen may only knight those who are subject to the commonwealth. Greespan, Giuliani, and the Mayor of Denver were all ‘us citizens’ knighted by the queen. I really don’t want to argue with anyone concerning these topics. It is useless and will play to light when the time if upon us.
The corporate .gov has stepped beyond its jurisdiction not only here but worldwide. The idea that the end of the US economy will end the US MIC is naive in the extreme.
I hope this helps. Sorry for the rant, again.
Obama has reacted vigorously to the United Citizens ruling. The average American would have ignored this ruling; it is being played FOR A REASON. Obama insists we have something he calls “our democracy”. He is implying that we belong to the .gov corporate body, but I don’t recall having my ear tagged.
Watch the new demands being called for in a ‘what can you do for your country’ rhetoric about new citizenship requirements. It will come to pass. That is why the road was prepared with the e-verify legislation.
Toothless and degriffed celtic tiger. You suffered from the anglo-saxon Icarus complex. What’s the main industry in Ireland anyways ? Never saw anything in Montréal MADE IN IRELAND. Except good beer and that’s about it. Sad.
The mom with coupons, majority of food was shit.
Way to go mom.
United Krach hits worst deflation on record.
http://www.financialsense.com/fsu/editorials/ash/2010/0121.html
So what do we need ? Repeat after me. WE NEED TERROR !
Nothing better than a RED terror alert to divert from these little problems like terrible deflationnary spiral coming to United Krachdom. State terrorism is a great gimmick. Having problem with the electorate. What do you do ? You call Ben Laden busters !
http://www.financialsense.com/fsu/editorials/ash/2010/0121.html
Nothing better that a terror alert ! or an earthquake. Indeed.
@ Mep – not just the dairyfarmers and not just in the US.
At least he shot the cows himself. Here in Norway depressed farmers sometimes just give up on the cattle – stop feeding them, don’t mend broken water supply – leave them to die in their own manure.
This is usually not the case among dairyfarmers since the milk is collected regularly (altought it has happend).
Actually I am amazed it don’t happen more often, as the modern life of a farmer is a recipie for depressions.
In a couple of generations the farm have transformed from a community of workers to a solitary workplace.
The farmers have decended from being a leader of a community to become dependent on debt and government subsidies.
The permanent workers left, then the seasonals and the children, so the wife. Now they often don’t get to have a familiy at all.
As a resonse to this problem the government wants us to snich on our neighbours – by law.
@naomi- oh, I do think the J.P.Morgans et al.care – It’s just what they want isn’t it?
100!
@Dork ot the Cork
You did not really answer my embarassing question. Ireland will be paying its debts with what ? The question is the same with Iceland, Greece and the UK. Pay with what ? How can a country without natural resources can pay back all these debts ?
Isn’t it a mathematical impossibility ? You should ALL declare bankruptcy instead of paying and do like Iceland.