Stacy Summary: Howard Zinn dead at 89.
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everyone is dying…WHY????
@dan valley – yep, death and taxes, no avoiding them; but Zinn was 89, which seems a nice, long life
Moscow huh…just dont try to dive a studabubba.
sorry that was drive
Anyone who hasn’t read “A People’s History of the United States,” do yourself a favor and pick it up.
U.S. households struggle to afford food: survey (Reuters) http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE60P65N20100126
A studabubba is an old woman that wears a head scarf called a bubushka….usually very round build with a bit of a dowagers hump and typically in a drab overcoat.
I do recommend trying some pahguch.
Ron Paul – CNN Newsroom 01/27/10
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j28OBUgo5Vk&feature=player_embedded#
Ron Paul on Fox Business: Geithner and AIG 1/27/10
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsp3T0wcJdE&feature=player_embedded
The Euro is dying, the £ is NOT!!!
Mike
Gold in a bubble?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financetopics/davos/7085504/Davos-2010-George-Soros-warns-gold-is-now-the-ultimate-bubble.html
Mike
@ Youri – Households with children had a “food hardship” rate of 24.1 percent for 2009 compared with 14.9 percent among households without children. Twenty states had rates of 20 percent or higher. Seven Southern states led the list.
And we have Southern Republicans comparing people who rely on the government for food assistance–including kids who get free or reduced lunch at school–to stray animals who should have their food sources removed in order to prevent them from breeding.
Dems Ask: Is Ron Paul Running The GOP Now?
http://www.businessinsider.com/dems-ask-is-ron-paul-running-the-gop-now-2010-1
@Mep
Darn good book. The whole history, The naked history.
1/26/10 Ron Paul with Dylan Ratigan on The Joe Scarborough Radio Show
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3KASQhrQtA&feature=channel
No. George Soros is himself THE ULTMA MAJOR bubble. That big balloon filled with himself. Can somebody lend me a needle ? Geoge is THE HUMAN BUBBLE incarnate. Hopefully Soros master of the universe and the Milky Way will soon die. If it can happen to Henry Kissinger and a Rockerfeller it can happen to George. Is Geoge old ? Hope so.
Has henry Kissinger died?
no sadly he is still alive.
@ Dan Valley – LOL! Whatever administration official made that sneering little jab at Ron Paul is lucky that he’s NOT leading the GOP. Liberals like Ron Paul. In fact, Ron Paul is the ONLY GOP politician who has the guts to appear every once in a while on the Rachel Maddow show. Republicans are petrified of her because she’s so smart and politically sharp that she’d make them cry if they appeared on her show. Paul will go on, though. It’s funny how people with personal integrity can face any and all audiences simply because they have integrity and aren’t afraid of being exposed for their ignorance or hypocrisy.
What’s even funnier is that Obama had to twist the arms of Democrats to wrangle out votes for Bernacke. The majority of House dems want Geithner, Summers, and Bernacke gone, and many in the Senate share their contempt for that crew.
Many people got to know about Howard Zinn as a result of their involvement with the 9/11 Truth movement, although I had read his landmark history of the US before I woke up and smelled the nanothermite. The term of art that many of us learned to apply to Mr. Zinn was “Left Gatekeeper”. This term applies to so-called leftists ranging from Howard Zinn and Noam Chomsky to Michael Moore and the entire HuffPo site. A related term is “controlled opposition”.
The Left Wing complains about the Right Wing and vice versa, but the pundits dare not mention the Beast That Flys. Sadly, many of us will remember Mr. Zinn more for what he said in his last years about two of the most important historical events of our time and the people who actually give crap about what really happened, not for his American history book.
Quoting Mr. Zinn:
“The truth is I don’t think anyone will ever really know what happened on 9/11 just as I don’t think anyone will really know who killed John F. Kennedy, and there are a lot of people who wasted a huge amount of time working on something that did not have any practical political significance.”
He was either shamefully ignorant, or a member of the controlled opposition. He was a full grown, college educated adult when JFK was killed. He had nearly half a century to do just a tiny bit of research on the coup d’etat that took place in Dallas on November 22, 1963.
RIP? How can he?
http://tinyurl.com/ZinnsShameful911Views
Audio of “A People’s History (The 20th Century) – Howard Zinn [1/53]” on Youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xwq_jiTjAuY&feature=PlayList&p=423A9572E6139029&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=7
A balanced view is always a good strategy me thinks,..
A little bit of left,..a little right,..a bit behind,.forward,.up and down,.mix it all up, and make the most of your life.
Unless of course you have an agenda to sell folk a particular perspective! : )
@Y’All
OK what WTF!!! the previous thread was GOLD jibber Jabber and the main ‘LINK’ story was the telegraph ARTICLE… BOYS BOYS,wipe the tears out of your eyes it may help!!!
@Mep
Good old real nasty social darwinism at its best. Mean stuff. When you read this type of stuff you sense that the USA is tegressing to 1920. Remember Rockerfeller that nazi eugonist. Remember forced sterilization of the poor and the Indians in paradise USA, Adolf Hitler’s program started at the origin in the “goof ol” USA. Disgusting indeed.
That’s sad, but 89 a good innings and a long life well lived. RIP Mr Zinn..
Unemployment Ping Pong With Dollar Gold and Dow
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BggkJsn4EsM&feature=channel
ICN Informed Citizen News broadcast Sunday January 24th, 2010. The news you should have heard this week, but didn’t.
This week’s stories…
#1 Obama Executive Order creates “council of governors”
#2 Three Approved GMO’s Linked to Organ Damage
#3 US Farmers win $2 million against Bayer (CropScience) for contaminating natural rice with genetically engineered rice.
#4 Food Inc Trailer
#5 Ron Paul vs Ben Stein
#6 US to store $800 million in US gear in Israel
#7 U.N.’s H1N1 scientists linked to companies making vaccine
#8 Personal bankruptcies rising fast
#9 Severe unemployment
#10 Whistleblower web site reveals Yahoo price list for selling its users’ information to government agencies.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsHrK2P3bEs&feature=sub
State Of The Union
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMLhJC750tE&feature=sub
LOL !
got the Janet T book after her brilliant interview with Max—very disappointed to find yet another Buffett puff piece, with (at best) ignorant politics to boot
Defaults May Return to Haunt Beleaguered Irish Mortgage Lenders http://tinyurl.com/yes8feh
Pseudologia Fantastica – Obama & State of the Union Vid http://tinyurl.com/yf7h2sr
Blankfein Avoids Apology as London Risks Suicide: Mark Gilbert http://tinyurl.com/yfargm6
@Phil /Germany
Yeah lol watch it on the Internet or on your TV like a freak’n dinosaur.
What a funny unreal world we live in including the last 120 years
Hic
Wrong peeps die
Right peeps who are wrong should kick ta bucket
Hic
I swear I got a Glen for tat MF Rockerfeller
@Phil/Germany
Very interesting things on ICN informed Citizens News. Indeed if USA and corporate was runned like a democracy, this is the type of real we should have the right to receive. Merci très intéressant. Thanks Phil.
@Phil Germany
Can’t understand why nobody sues to hell Monsanto. It’s evident that there is a big problem with corn.
French firemen protest in Brussels
***End of video is quite FUNNY****
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaaKIpHgQdw&feature=sub
god the french r great
rip
Germany’s unemployed rise to 8.2% January from 8.1% in December http://tinyurl.com/ye9o9mz
Soros is a douche bag, provacateur , who has little true insight into anything , other than trying to create an illusion of what is and what isn’t. In the end Rogers, Buffet, and Soros will be the victims of a huge world wide euqity crash. Gold and Silver will be the final safe havens, other than food and water.
Soros=Manipulator
b4 the funny muisc stQARTS plauyoing 1 of the fireggithers says in french “where is that cute little blonde, this is her car i think” … haha
Siemens to cut nearly 2,000 jobs http://tinyurl.com/yc2e45r
@Marc Authier … this is the type of real we should have the right to receive
I agree 100% ….. what a massive difference between ICN and the MSM !
Maybe we should sue the MSM journlists from NOT being IMPARTIAL !
.. oh , of course, they are a “protected species” … by the “C”ystem.
When Bernanke says low interest rates weren’t the cause of the housing bubble, he is at best being disingenuous. Instead, he points to lax lending standards as the key fuel for inflating home prices.
But the truth is rather different.
His assertion is similar to claiming that it isn’t the fall from a skyscraper that breaks your bones, but the sharp stop when your body reaches the street.
From: It’s time for Bernanke to move on (MarketWatch) http://tinyurl.com/ydouoen
Me tinks Gold gonna hit 1200 now
I also stated tis 2 months back
Gonna have me Nose on the Graph now dunno Why though cause I have no Gold
Hic
Unless there is another distraction like Haiti Earthquake
Hic
It’ll not be possible to afford another Distraction cause thier resources are streched right now
Tats the reason why I belive Gold is gonna go up now!!
Hey the Naked Ape is not a particularly endearing species. So what else is new.
hey – its better than the middle ages right? hick
Fed, central banks end dollar swap lines http://tinyurl.com/ygt64sd
but ECB said. “Central banks will continue to cooperate as needed.”
man gold up 3 bucks one nice happy meal
Hic
Lets see what happens when the market opens
Hic
Sales of new homes fall 7.6% to nine-month low (MarketWatch) http://tinyurl.com/y8j6tq8
Existing home sales sink 16.7% 25 January 2010 (CNN Money) http://tinyurl.com/yc4jpkg
Federal regulators shutter banks in Fla., Mo., NM, Ore., Wash., making 9 bank failures in 2010 http://tinyurl.com/yh5xjcb
See also Failed Bank List http://tinyurl.com/226vl3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIsqQnW89nQ
CFPA (Consumer Financial Protection Agency) very bad for American small business.
Las Vegas: Most foreclosures of any city in 2009
http://money.cnn.com/2010/01/28/real_estate/foreclosure_cities_growth/?hpt=P1
Treasury’s 5-year note auction sees solid demand – Indirect bidders bought 53% of the auction (MarketWatch) http://tinyurl.com/yzhqgtm
See also: US Treasury buyers move the goalposts (Scroll down for more) http://tinyurl.com/y9vot6q
LOL… Kaptur: Is there anybody that isn’t from Goldman Sachs?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtJf2Q30U_Q&feature=sub
@ Phil /G
Kaptur: Is there anybody that isn’t from Goldman Sachs?
Did ya notice the reporter’s face starts to change ???
Reptilian thingy Davide Ickes stuff
Hic
Soros warns on the £
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/robertpeston/
Mike
See Danny II (chicken): If you believe in something you are willing to bet on it and you don’t pussy around about it!
@ME
I don’t know how many times I have to respond to the same question. You are as dense as a log or pretend to be.
Bets on bitch. It’s your bet, so make the damn thing.
@ME
Jump to the last thread on Jibber Jabber. Let’s respect Stacy’s forum.
Why is there an entire thread about Howard Zinn? Are we supposed to limit discussion here to Howard Zinn, Dan II?
@Snoot
I don’t think so. But Stacy seems to be touchy about me claiming that IPCC is a fraud. An opinion that continues to be supported by revelations as time goes by.
@ Snoot
I think they are recording
Hic
Max’s huge steak of timmy and paulson is just out
lololol
@Stacey:
Do you think IPCC is a fraud?
Zbigniew Brzezinski
Former National Security Adviser
I think Obama’s greatest moment was his speech rejecting the “war on terror” as an excessive and dangerous way of responding to the kind of terrorism that has been directed at the United States, because it was increasingly pitting the United States against the entire Islamic world. I think that was a wise course of action, I think it was a wise speech, I thought it was a wise redefinition of America’s foreign policy. And the disappointment doesn’t come with a single moment. I think it comes with the fact that his efforts to get the healthcare plan adopted have consumed so much of his time that he has slowed down his efforts to change American foreign policy.
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20100201/forum/4
@DannII
IPCC is A MASSIVE FRAUD indeed. Can’t do anything about that. Science is like that. It’s either TRUE, or it’s FALSE. The proof is in the pudding. And again you greenies, which I like, look in the sky !
It’s about the sun. Astrophysics 101. Sorry. It’s not because you are green that you have to continue being dumb. Science has its rules. The simplistic theory about CO2 and human acrivity doesn’t hold.
Soo please let’s talk about something else more serious like: oil depletion, natural ressources depletion, bad economic and ecologic development. But please !
Don’t insult our intelligence because your global warming science is tainted with humongous financial conflits of interests and shoddy and fraudulent data.
@Marc
I agree. Lets focus on real solutions to cleaning the earth, not lining the pockets of shysters. IPCC is sheer speculation, not science. They have been repeatedly shown to have falsified documents to make their case. They are not trustworthy.
While we are at it, lets do real, un-politicized science.
Howard Zinn
Historian
I’ ve been searching hard for a highlight. The only thing that comes close is some of Obama’s rhetoric; I don’t see any kind of a highlight in his actions and policies.
As far as disappointments, I wasn’t terribly disappointed because I didn’t expect that much. I expected him to be a traditional Democratic president. On foreign policy, that’s hardly any different from a Republican–as nationalist, expansionist, imperial and warlike. So in that sense, there’s no expectation and no disappointment. On domestic policy, traditionally Democratic presidents are more reformist, closer to the labor movement, more willing to pass legislation on behalf of ordinary people–and that’s been true of Obama. But Democratic reforms have also been limited, cautious. Obama’s no exception. On healthcare, for example, he starts out with a compromise, and when you start out with a compromise, you end with a compromise of a compromise, which is where we are now.
I thought that in the area of constitutional rights he would be better than he has been. That’s the greatest disappointment, because Obama went to Harvard Law School and is presumably dedicated to constitutional rights. But he becomes president, and he’s not making any significant step away from Bush policies. Sure, he keeps talking about closing Guantánamo, but he still treats the prisoners there as “suspected terrorists.” They have not been tried and have not been found guilty. So when Obama proposes taking people out of Guantánamo and putting them into other prisons, he’s not advancing the cause of constitutional rights very far. And then he’s gone into court arguing for preventive detention, and he’s continued the policy of sending suspects to countries where they very well may be tortured.
I think people are dazzled by Obama’s rhetoric, and that people ought to begin to understand that Obama is going to be a mediocre president–which means, in our time, a dangerous president–unless there is some national movement to push him in a better direction.
Howard Zinn “every war is a war against children”
Zinn worked was a shipyard worker?
RESPECT!!!!
No way! I People’s History of the United States is one of the most profound books i ever read. That sucks.
@Stacey I don’t know if anyone noticed this but the headline in the article reads “dead at 87.”
@mommy
You are like the little chiwawa standing on the front porch barking ferociously at nothing. When confronted, you tuck your tail between your legs, piss yourself, and run back into the house.
later y’all
Noam Chomsky and Naomi Klein Respond to Obama’s First State of the Union
Howard Zinn (1922–2010): A Tribute to the Legendary Historian with Noam Chomsky, Alice Walker, Naomi Klein and Anthony Arnove
http://www.democracynow.org/
@Danny II (chicken)
If you know what I ask, then tell me what you will give up if the IPCC proves not to be a fraud. Also how would that be proven to you.
I think Howard Zinn was inspiring..
@Mother,……The IPCC aren’t frauds,.they just keep making mistakes, when someone discovers their(The IPCC) false propositions.
I’d say, they are just incompetent,..nothing wrong with that, we all make mistakes,..even the best of us,.huh!
The point being, me thinks,…as an authority(group of experts), they are pretty lame,..you can’t deny that surely.
It wouldn’t matter if these idiots just got on with their fantasies,.bu
fk!!
I pressed the wrong key,…
-t as you’re aware, their reports help bolster proposed legislation,..
Nicely put, Dedo!!!
Populism is neither left nor right, it is functioning democracy in action. Zinn had an agenda, sure, most thinking people do.
But the ‘enlightened west’ has been so steeped in ‘anti-communism’ (which in practice has proven to be no different from pro-communism) that the popular will is now considered subversive. At the turn of the last century an 8 hr work day, the right for workers to organize, ending company script, child labor laws, renter rights, a minimum wage, and the anti-draft movement were just some of the popular issues of the day, today american idol is a popular issue. Popular issues were replaced with modern convenience thanks to edward bernays and his ’39 world fair.
Is anyone else watching the Senate hearings on Bernanke via CSPAN2 ?
I just started tuning in,
and it’s not sounding good for that walking abortion…
Richard Shelby is not happy…
@mommy
The bet is not that IPCC is a fraud, we already know that, as it has been demonstrate on numerous occasions – mix in some real science (to provide legitimacy) with fraudulent science (that which one wants want to prove) and call the results alarming.
The bet is: As of the day you started this nonsense, there was no proof that man drives the climate over and above natural forces.
How do we prove that? I don’t know and I don’t care. You want me to put some skin in the game. This was your idea. You initiated the proposal. So you, as the initiator of this wager, must make a proposal on how to determine who is correct and what the wager is. You sound like a child who cries: “oh yeah, wanna make a bet.”
You have diarrhea of the mouth and constipation of the brain. All talk and no action. All bark and no bite. You can’t get past GO. Your transmission is stuck in neutral.
Thanks for the good news, this made my day. Matt Damon cant be happy today.
Watch Hayek serve Keynes.
http://www.econstories.tv/home.html
What a good man. Sorry to see him go and sorry to see his spirit and outlook so marginalized here in the bowels of Amerikana.
rest in peace Howie
This quote from Howard Zinn brought to mind exactly your recent guest Bruce Levine relating to how to transcend the depression caused living in a traumatic society.
“Small acts, when multiplied by millions of people, can quietly become a
power no government can suppress, a power that can transform the world.
Even when we don’t ‘win’ there is fun and fulfillment in the fact we
have been involved.”
Howard Zinn
“Small acts, when multiplied by millions of people, can quietly become a power no government can suppress, a power that can transform the world.Even when we don’t ‘win’ there is fun and fulfillment in the fact we have been involved.”
@Braseal,
Yes, I agree. I just got the book and it was an homage to Warren Buffet.
There’s a huge disconnect between the book and the interviews and also Max’s hammering (rightfully so) of Buffet in regard to investing in Israel and the wars that Israel is waging against Lebanon. Very odd.
I’m going to finish the book, I think. But I’m very disappointed in it.
Nomi Pintz’s book is a better book to promote.
@Naomi
I read Janet’s Buffett book, too…
It is definitely a pump for Buffett,
HOWEVER,
there are points of good advice in regards to investing, as well as a fairly descriptive breakdown of the derivatives disaster…
So if you ignore the pump, you may garner some use from the words therein…
“CREDIT-TERRORIST” story in Dallas Observer: “It’s like discovering fire…”
http://www.dallasobserver.com/content/printVersion/1653972
“While most Americans with unpaid bills dread the collector’s call, Cunningham sees them as lucrative opportunities. Many collection and credit card companies, intentionally or not, violate little-known consumer rights laws, and Cunningham’s favorite pastime is catching them doing so and then suing them. In fact, it’s a profitable side job.”
“[...] Cunningham calls himself a private attorney general—someone who files private lawsuits in the public interest. Debt collectors call him a credit terrorist.”
“[...] Cunningham knew he had a good enough case to file a lawsuit against the debt collection agency, and for his first lawsuit, he decided to enlist the help of a lawyer. Two months later, he had a check in his hand for $1,000.
“It’s like discovering fire,” says Cunningham, thumbing through the stack of lawsuit papers on his table.”
No thanks! Edward Bernays, The father of Propaganda and the fist ad campaign to get women hooked on cigarettes. He found a home with the elite in providing them the tools to control the masses.
A People’s History is probably one of the most overrated books ever made.
I don’t know what cultural importance this person has, but this I know of:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada:_A_People's_History
The nearest name to his is probably Zimm:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ready_or_Not_(TV_series)
– See who Laura Maureen Bertram is…
Related UK docs on America:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America:_A_Personal_History_of_the_United_States
and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_American_Future:_A_History
++ followup
Simon Schama’s: Obama’s America
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Sharma is too much of a US apologist for my taste, but he does get his US historical points right — and covers stuff totally missed in the US genre. He technically is the documentary successor to Alister Cooke’s America from part 10 onward. Cooke is a hard act to follow, especially his overall geopolitical neutrality.
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i’ve just finished the article “Howard Zinn’s lesson to us all “by Victoria Brittain, followed by “Thanks to illegal war, iragis at last have hope for the future” by William Shawcross on the Gudian website.
I am fucking angly. Today, I don’t wanna be human being.
Despicable british eletists. I whis i could waterboard them.
Howard Zinn – What a great history teacher and human being. He will be missed.