Ahmadinejad is full of hot air. The mullahs have said they do not condone the use of nuclear weapons, and on that, I believe them. After all, by their reasoning, it would destroy part of God’s creation.
Iran is neither Iraq or Afghanistan. I will remind the readers that it has been a sovereign country (and occasionally, empire) for over 2,500 years. Iraq was a post WWI construction, and Afghanistan has never had a real cohesive government. I would not underestimate a reaction from them if they were to be attacked or backed into a corner. They have been playing politics for a very long time, Islamic Republic or not.
I have actually lived in Iran, and will agree with Marc (a rare thing), that given the choice between having to live many of the countries in the area, or in Iran, I would chose Iran. It has a thriving culture, good food, and is not nearly as repressive as such places as Saudi Arabia. I would not call it a place of great freedom, but then, is the US really all that free any more (with the world’s largest prison population)?
QUOTE:
Meanwhile, state-run Press TV quoted Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad on Sunday as saying that the nation will deliver a harsh blow to “global arrogance” on February 11.
American run by nazis? The president and his parentsand his grandparents were communists. The USSR and the obama adminsitration have no christians in their adminsitrations.
Stalin received trillions from the new york banksters. This funding allowed him and the Red Army to build the largest army and military factories in the world. Stalin threatened to conquer the world with his communism/totalitariansim. Indeed with new Yorks assistance he conquered most of europe. Only a few countries stood up to Stalin and his new york financiers. But at least he was stopped.
@Y’All
I just love watching the americans and their idiot neighbours always trying to turn this site into a virtual home sweet home… of blandness, racial intolerance… gun worship… while continually trying to build a little disney world for us all to escape reality and play in with special animal masks and name tags for the well behaved children!!!
Ya mean Ma? Ain’t her fault seein’ Pa’z home such-like. He ain’t a’gonna work: sayz his in-vest-ment strategee is not- a’workin’ and a’sittin’ and a’spittin most days waitin fur Granny’s teeth to a-ppreciate. I sayz he’s right sorry gettin’ Ma up that-a-way at her age, but ain’t no one listenin’ to me mostly round here.
@MEPsowing the seeds to preemptive war.
to be sold to the people … future conflict is inevitable, though maybe not imminent. we can not stop an attack once underway.
hence, for our national security we are required to hit the enemy first.
@Snoot. numbers don’t lie, well sometimes. i believe nothing i hear and half of what i see. then i do some homework. asked you for some strange reason. did the homework on you. hahaha
@ronron:
It’s all speculation, except for the COG protocal. Fascinating idea about underground access at Denver. Who knows? Odd really! They supposedly dug up a lot of earth at that airport for underground structures.
Geophysicists believe may be one of the world’s richest zones for hydrocarbons-oil and gas outside the Middle East, possibly orders of magnitude greater than that of nearby Venezuela. …
Bonn , gold is real money, not an I.O.U. and it has been for 5000 years. I was a gold miner years ago and when the price fell down to US $280. I stopped mining and started buying because I knew it was below the production cost of most mines. I also knew it would not stay down due to supply and demand. When gold was down in the US $250s with talk of it going to US $100 , I continued loading up on unhedged mining companies. Back then there was the dot com bubble going full steam and it was obvious it was not going to last. Just like today’s market manipulations it will not last. In my opinion gold and silver and the mining shares , in your possession are the safest form of saving in today’s world. The price pull backs can be brutal , but they make a great time to buy more. I have sat on my hands and not sold and watched US $500,000.00 go away only to come back and then some. It is gut wrenching to say the least. You need to have conviction and know what money really is. I.O.U.’s are not money . I have a 50,000,000 German marks note that was my great grandfathers , it’s not worth anything. Thats what can happen when you hold I.O.U.s . That’s the lesson it taught me. Everyone should own some gold and silver.
looking at the continuous gold chart 1073 was a place to expect support technically having been resistance in October support in late December followed by a decent rally … this retest to my eyes is a classic wyckoff spring after a JOC.
will this rally attempt lead to follow through and a retest of the highs ?
if a bull market odds say yes if a technical reversal in DX then we retest lower before making new highs it seems to me …
I know bonn … cheap free you get what you pay for.
How many peeps here Knew tat SR -71
Expands by 1.5 feet
It freakin leaks gas as it takes off
The Gas don’t ignite on heat
It needs an additive to ignite
Ooooohhhhhh
I give up
Yep, many black-op projects funded in space program BS. BTW Obama changed ? Yes, ahahaha! His mind that’s the only thing what is changing in The U.S. at the moment cause “The U.S. is not going to the Moon” as formerly promised by Obama. But he’s gonna spend it somewhere else, on earth he said wink wink. Do I smell coffee somewhere?
The Day Gold Is treated as
as
as
an un accountable peace of shittttt
WTF do u use Gold For
???
I am 34 i aint used Gold till now niether did me Dad
tats 70 years
6,400 million which is 6,4 billion if 400 million has to be the end number alive.
Problems with using Nukes is the contamination from the Fall Out which will kill most of us but also can pass borders if the wind may be in a certain direction which could cause “unforeseen” victims including the evildoers themselves.
@Youri,……You’re thinking is old school I’m afraid,..
My guess is,.there are particles already circulating your system,..all it takes is a certain frequency, and ZAP!
E.G,..HARRP, Spraying of the atmosphere.
Not unlike folk still holding onto the idea of “gold” as a store of wealth because it has always been that way,..like I say, old school thinking!
Just a thought,..
Disclaimer: I’m not an advocate of these ideas,.they’re just ideas : )
@ Youri Carma
Wont ya think of all possibilites while sending nuke signatures
Tink like an arsehole tink of all possibilties
Hic
would’nt ya do tat
What if me ICBM splits Six
Its so difficult to counter react to a threat
Hic
Can we all turn ta same page
at ta same time
they wanna kill 5 bill
in the near future
Who ta fuck is :”Henry Kissinger”
Peeps were surprised tat I had a huffington report on tat screwball n david rockerfeller
Brezinski maybe be right about “killing 1 million people is easier than controlling 1 million” but we are with 6,800 million (6,8 billion) people and bringing back the population to 400 million, Georgia Guidestones accordingly, isn’t that easy like it sounds even for the more “intelligent” psychopaths.
@Iok Sotot, Eater of Souls : “War isn’t such a great way to reduce the population. ”
Depends if Nukes used or not. Biggest war crime committed by the U.S. Army in my opinion is the use of depleted Uranium in all kinds of ammunition also in artillery and Tank brizant granites which leave loads of poisonous depleted Uranium on any battlefield like in Iraq lately. This is not only very unhealthy for the military themselves firing this ammunition but also poison the environment for many years to come with radiation contamination causing cancer for the U.S. Military and the people who have to live again on the land. This truly is a crime against humanity and should be taken before the U.N. and the international court.
@Bonn
Knowing a thing or two about ICBMs cause I am a son of a b*** and studied the subject for many years it’s also known within the military think tanks that these Patriots were not as successful as was claimed by the Israeli and American propaganda also to keep morale high in not admitting the real damage in the MSM.
The difficulty isn’t when one missile has to be intercepted but in a real Nuke war multiple missiles will be fired which is a completely other ball game. The Reagan “Star Wars” project was merely “cold war” propaganda cause unsuccessful. The research during this project showed that it’s impossible to defend at showering multiple fragmenting warheads especially not if the defense cost of every defending missile is more than $9 million a piece.
Brezinski maybe be right about “killing 1 million people is easier than controlling 1 million” but we are with 6,800 million (6,8 billion) people and bringing back the population to 400 million, Georgia Guidestones accordingly, isn’t that easy like it sounds even for the more “intelligent” psychopaths.
@Iok Sotot, Eater of Souls : “War isn’t such a great way to reduce the population. ”
Depends if Nukes used or not. Biggest war crime committed by the U.S. Army in my opinion is the use of depleted Uranium in all kinds of ammunition also in artillery and Tank brizant granites which leave loads of poisonous depleted Uranium on any battlefield like in Iraq lately. This is not only very unhealthy for the military themselves firing this ammunition but also poison the environment for many years to come with radiation contamination causing cancer for the U.S. Military and the people who have to live again on the land. This truly is a crime against humanity and should be taken before the U.N. and the international court.
@Bonn
Knowing a thing or two about ICBMs cause I am a son of a b*** and studied the subject for many years it’s also known within the military think tanks that these Patriots were not as successful as was claimed by the Israeli and American propaganda also to keep morale high in not admitting the real damage in the MSM.
The difficulty isn’t when one missile has to be intercepted but in a real Nuke war multiple missiles will be fired which is a completely other ball game. The Reagan “Star Wars” project was merely “cold war” propaganda cause unsuccessful. The research during this project showed that it’s impossible to defend at showering multiple fragmenting warheads especially not if the defense cost of every defending missile is more than $9 million a piece.
@ have read the Unseen Hand your thoughts on that book
Is a subliminal message ta rest of Freemasons
Dont let the right hand know what the left hand is doing
Meaning I am one of yours public before we got faster communications
….and elements from the US sell guns into Mexico thereby fueling the narcowar down there. Should the nation of Mexico decide to simplify matters by organizing an international embargo and possible military attack against the US?
Iran is a sovereign nation. They did not put us into Iraq. No wonder we have problems with borders. We don’t respect the borders of other sovereign nations.
Ha Ha HA!! The change is to be more war like and spend more money than anyone in history. All China has to do is very quietly stop buying debt and it will do the same thing as BO( he stinks) domestic and forgein policies. I am ashamed to be an american. I wish I had a choice in who I want to run the country but their all the same. Might as well laugh as we destroy the world ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha !!!!!! Have a great day!!!
@The West cannot afford a long drawn out war of attrition in either Afghanistan or Iraq
unless the goal is to use the US military presence(bases) in the gulf(iraq) and central eurasia (afganhistan) is to dictate the economic development in a region full of natural resources.
…preventing Iran from establishing energy transit routes to china.. the goal since the attack on iraq to affect Iranian hegemony.
@ skippy
Arundhati Roy’s, The God of Small Things,
Dude She has no clue what is
on the inside
at the edge off a cliff
Tis site has unbelivable insight
God knows how Maxy gets inside Info
Even when I tell peeps of Georgia Stone hinge
They laugh at me
Inculding Maxy boy
Hic
Peter, you have to think like the banksters think. The world is their oyster so to speak. Us peasants are just cannon fodder and something they can steal from for eternity. The banksters are world wide. They have no allginance to any country. So a war here or there is nothing to them but profit making. And then rebuilding and profit making.
johnseattle, my own theory is the banksters won’t crash the market till everything is in place to control all the idiot masses. Alot of the idiot masses are waking up to the corruption of the banksters. If the markets were to collapse now the idiot masses would know who to point the finger at. If some other altercation were to happen to cause the markets to collapse that would be most prudent for the banksters and get them off the hook.
Iran shares a border with both Iraq and Afghanistan and is a major supplier of weapons to the both the Iraq insurgents and the Taliban. If that source of weaponry was no longer available it would make the job of the western military a great deal easier.
The West cannot afford a long drawn out war of attrition in either Afghanistan or Iraq – the sovereing deficits are just too great, An attack on Iran, neutering the insurgents in the existing two theatres of conflict, has a sort of insane logic to it.
@ Dedo
In innovative abuse I need 4 larges of Whisky
and the net cause me scared of public debate
But over a fair neutral ground
I challenge anyone
I use ta drink with a friend where we discussed evrytin under the sun
We also discussed “Child abuse”
In India its swept under te carpet
Sadly lotta women even in middle class familys get abused as a child 4 or 8 yr old Vs a 17 year old cousin
Me heart crys out
I spoke to 4 women I got intimate to they said yup been through tat
Life is a bitch then ya die
then ya get reminded by fake SG –> level 6
The empty suit failed to sell the american people his game plan. The GDP lie is being ripped apart and the market is getting ready to collapse! Its time for a diversion!
Annoy your legislators by sending emails expressing your objections to any further hostilities toward Iran. Your emails messages will be tallied and help cancel out a bit of the noise from constituents who beat the war drums.
Remind the congress critters that an embargo may be an act of war and that war is a failure of diplomacy. Let them know that they are failures if there is war.
This woman has called for a National Strike from 4-25 to 4-18 http://www.taxfree15.com/ She has been posted on two high traffic websites. Probably nothing will happen until the dollar dies. If you have seen Obama’s budget, you will likely conclude that the dollar won’t last long. Maybe his handlers expect the next war to solve their problems.
@California Doctor
The potential for change in Iran is far better than in the arab world. They are not in power. So. They still manage to have newpapers and get elected even with rigged elections!. The infrastructure like in Poland, for a change is there.
It’s not the case in the arab world. Iran is not a desparate situation as Saudi Arabia and all these USA puppet regimes. I can just imagine what will happen when oil in Saudi Arabia runs out. Iran is more sophisticated politically than Saudi Arabia.
@ Dedo
Even I agree the new SG seems to be an 16 year old on harmonal imbalance with steroids
SG aint Super Geek
Super Geek had some informative stuff
SG just abusis us cause he/she most probable he has erectile disfunction
Hic
Ooooo I can be lot meaner tis is level 2
of 10
@ skippy
Any freakin defence mechanism is fabricated
ya have zero chance if an ICBM is launched at ya
Hic
By the way I bet 1000 $ on that
Peeps dont make killing m/c’s with a kill switch
And frankly speakin I am tired of defending me position
Being from a military BK
U right mate
@Marc – you have completely lost me in your comments.
The presence of organized opposition parties is not relevant because they are NOT in power.
The power center currently lies in the banking centers, which are already financially fraudulent.
Yet, our elected officials choose continue to prostitute themselves to Blankfein et al instead of just responding to the observable damage in main street USA.
Matey your defence system has 0.01 percent chance of evadinding a nuke hit
Or ya think ya keeanow Reeves of ta matrix
All defence systems are doctored brother
And even think fuckin logically
when do you shoot an incoming ICBM
What if its just a test ????
Hic
Hate new bees
@California Doctor.
Is there an opposition in Saudi Arabia ? I know that Iran is not a paradise. Iran has a strong opposition COMPARED to all these arab countries either runned by kings or dictators. Having the choice to live in Libya or Iran, I would choose Iran without hesitation. Yes. Serious. The opposition in Iran has newspapers. Try that in Irak, in Koweit, in Libya, in UEA, in Saudi Arabia, in Yemen. Even tolerant Dubai is runnede by a king. It’s not an excuse to declaring war to Iran. Why not declaring war to Saudi Ariabia, Or China ?
@ S
@Any afrikan country is fine to plunder
We all know Afrika doesnt have an unknown Nuke progamme
Cause I am worried about untested Nuke War heads
I think I have a right to be
I aint no madam Querie
and prevailing winds movin radiations
All the world has has a right to vote on a nuke war
Hic
Why do you think they conduct tests in deserts
Cause they no that peeps wont inhabit that place
OOOOOooooooo loosing me cool explainin now
But I want one of those ICBM’s Rubber Valves to fail
Tooo funny
ROFL
Hic
@ skippy
Germany was on the brink on Wiemar republic
Before Hitler got fundin from Rothchilds
Also grandpa bush was involved
So he provided Jobs
Where he got ta money nobody questioned
Get real mate or get updated
Hic
@skippy – People turned on each other vs. turning on state
The people in Germany and Europe were the peasants being used in the war. The bankers who backed the Nazi’s and also backed war time production for the allies should be reviewed.
There was a report that Citi’s corporate parent was involved in backing Hitler’s National Socialist activity.
@Bonn
Don’t worry. Obaaaaananana and Bushiiit too, must have a biggie one in Cayman Island and Switzerland.
I am always amused when people think that the big bank accounts are only in a third world country. USA crony third world country EXACTLY like Pakistan.
No difference today. No difference whatsoever. We will soon be a huge globa hell hole. “We are the World.” Bonn. Don’t you forget it.
International crornies unite !
United Oligarchs of the World rejoice ! UOW !
@ MA
Is Saudi Arabia democratic ? Iran is more democratic than most of the rotten arab
Now ya get to notice US has a base in Saudi right ??
Saudi sells oil to who ?
Saudis are happy cause it aint a harsh dictatorship
I’ve been in Iraq mate
They used Oil to prevent sand dunes from covering Highways
Oil->meaning petrol was free in the middle East in 70′s
Just pull into a gas station fill for free
They had fridges runnin on petrol cause it was free
Tats why i dont belive we’ve hit peak Oil
@Marc -
Germany was a democratic republic in the 1930′s.
The sheeple elected Hitler.
Elections can be rigged and the people can be wrong.
What then?
How do you have a peaceful revolt and revolution?
Or is your anarchistic rhetoric without conscience for the 30-40 million people who died between 1939-1945 in the last global conflagration?
This conflagration could be more significant as “developing” countries exercise nuclear might. This includes Pakistan, India, Israel, and China. This list excludes the Koreas, Japan, and assumes that European nuclear nations are out of the picture as well.
@Any afrikan country is fine to plunder
We all know Afrika doesnt have an unknown Nuke progamme
I always thought, since the level of energy consumption in the west can not be supported by teh entire planet, and when Africa begins stepping towards consumption, beginning to utilize their “allotment” of resources … folks in Africa had to start dying or the west needed to stop thinking about more.
so folks in Africa started dying by the millions.
aint it great to be consuming other peoples natural resources … as they are weak and “we” are strong …
feudal law … he shall take … he shall keep who can.
Maybe just Maybe they coulda gone after Iran when it was’nt Democratic
Hell it may be corrupt
Indian Elections are corrupt
That does not give any country the right to Invade a democratic country
Hic
No way Hose N I hopefully India should support Iran
@ Marc Authier
we all know its about OIL
But tis is a very dangerous game of Chicken USA is playing
Iran is a Democratic country
USA IMO wanted to pick on N Korea for what reason go figure
But they have no clue what N Korea is capable of
So they decided Iran
Russia probably has OIL
Do u see USA threatenin Russia
Russia Will show em the middle finger and say just try it buddy
Bonnie in Clyde did also run outta luck
Hic
@phil
I getting kinda worried about your powers of observation… if it”s took you that long to notice the TWITTER feed… I wonder what else you might be missing!!!
Uranium. Come on. It’s not about uranium. It’s about OIL !
OIL ! OIL ! OIL ! Iran is close also to Central Asia and the Caspian Sea. And what to you find in great quantity in the Caspian Sea ? OIL. That dirty dirty dirty dirty dirty dirty OIL. The nuclear argument is just a good excuse.
And Belive you me I am 100 % sure they aint no Kill switch on the ICBM
Who tha F@#K has time in a Nuke War
Hic
If ya think theres a Kill switch ya living in a dream land
Hic
“American officials said the move is aimed at deterring an attack by Iran and reassuring Gulf states fearful that Tehran might react to sanctions by striking at US allies in the region.”
we can not predict the response of poking a stick into the eye of a caged “animal” … hence our action to deploy armaments …
and if you think this is over the top think of what we will be able to get away with in the event of an actual crisis.
And this passes for foreign policy ? A game a chicken ?
Marking time as we step towards what has always been teh desired outcome …
I forgot. The next scanner to be installed next month will the lie detector gizmo, and the alpha terrorist brain wave detecting zapper. Followed by a total proctology of all orifices and gamma ray CAT scan,
Embarqment in 480 hours. All liquids, blood. sperm and milk, irradiated with poliniun 210, forced vaccination with massive doses of mecury, squalene, lithium and prozac. That’s for next month.
Have a nice flight with Air Obeeeey-mamatalibanana
Soon to be installed on all AMTRAK trains, in the metro, at bus stops and all Wal Marts. I would like it to be a joke. But it’s true. We are runned by Nazis.
The TSA and Homeland Security now want the exacte measures of your penis and your vagina. Is this a joke ? Knowing the bastards now running the place, I think not. Fuckin American nazi eugenists.
I really think that USA is runned by sick nazis fucks. Enjoy liberty while it last. Obama is a fine piece of giant manure indeed. It get’s worts by the hour. Say what you think before the cut your balls. Yeah it’s vulgar. So is Obanana that unamable piece of dirt. Dirts. It’s getting worst by the minute. What’s the next step ? A sperm count to take the plane and an ovulation test. Never what in them.
I remeber Saddams Scud falling in Israel during Gulf war 1 Dud Scud
Always wondered wheather Saddam puposefully did’nt let it explode or it failed
Though he fired only one I think at Israel
Hic
Who knows
I really thinl that USA is runned by sick nazis fucks. Enjoy liberty while it last. Obama is a fine piece of giant manure indeed. It get’s worts by the hour.
And the best part is it aint fesabile to test a Live ICBM
Rofl
You’d have North Korea say “Well You go ahead with ya live test, But If i Have a feeling its heading my way
200 of em gonna be launched from here mate”
Hic Plus I too wanna conduct a Live test
Then ya have 10,000 nervous scientest and Defence personal worldwide
Hic
ROFL PMSL
@lek
I would be careful in using morality in either justifying or rejecting armed conflict
Morality is never the cause of armed conflict – it is very important however since countries need a moral argument to justify to its masses and army the need to go to war
Haiti, the next Saudia Arabia? Well written article by F. William Engdahl. Scroll down to second red *
Things seem to be really heating up with the US. From the Indians to the third world to Haiti, the same old tactics. When will people learn from history?
@Y’All
OMG…. I think I’ve just been sick in my mouth…. OMG, the world is fucked up and … WE ARE CONSTANTLY AT WAR AND TRYING TO CREATE MORE WARS … yet some people come here to constantly play MENTAL WAR GAMES and CARPET BOMB the SITE with their sad RUNNING JOKES and play out some scene like a fucked WAR BABY who has been reunited with it’s MOTHER in the RUBBLE… amazing… Sad and Desperate… ‘S’ and ‘D’ Y’ALL, SAD and DESPERATE HA, HA!!!
let’s see…iran is defying sanctions and nearing its goal of obtaining nuclear weapons. Here in Thailand a plane full of weapons parts was intercepted on its way from N. Korea to…Iran. The country is ruled by religious facists who have publicly stated they want to exterminate the jewish people. And then the US sends some patriot missles (defensive, not offensive) and yet its the US that is escalating? Nice logic Stacy. Same with Ethiopia. they raise an army to try to defend against the islamists and suddenly, they have the biggest army, they are brutes, etc., etc., no mention of the brutes overrunning their eastern border killing non muslims as they go. What is the deal with liberals and islam? Here is a religion that creates apartheid against non muslims, considers women to be chattel with half the right of men at law, that has a death penalty for those who change their religion, that kills gays, and their biggest supporters in the west are…liberals. Really amazing to me. And then your remark about the biggest jew killers being German Christians. Why not search on youtube for Nazi-Muslim SS division and educate yourself on Hitlers preference for islam over christianity and his collaberation with Hajj Al Amin Husseni.
@motherearth
I don’t doubt that information
You have to realise that the worlds economic problems are a sum of short term economic decisions where today’s wealth have been used for today’s consumption rather then in future capital investments
When or if the implicit guarantee for bank capital ends , real capital investments will again become more competitive
Most of the wests capital goes into banks who provide capital towards consumers who quite naturally consume rather in invest
The real market have been giving these signals since the eighties yet central banks have continued to channel capital towards consumption
Until there is massive fiscal spending on projects that increase systems energy output the western economies will continue to run down their systems while incorrectly spending their precious capital on futile monetary experiments which are a road to the dark ages
@ P/G
Its been there for 2 weeks now I think or a week
Hic
With all me Whisky I noticed it befor ya
Also signed up and following Stacey But Cant handle oe more form of interaction
Being the son of a test pilot knowing a thing or 2 about Defence technology
Hic
Bear in mind Maxy boy the ICBMS with nukes in em have never been tested in thier entirety
Seperately yes
So all of a sudden ya have 20 or 30 Untested ICBMS flying all over ta place
If Even one of those Egines fails -> a directional thruster or a programming error ;a missing semicolon
Cause they wanted to save memory
maybe because they did’nt replace a Valve cause it actually has a shelf life of 2 years and not 3 as specified by the supplier
Kabooooommmmm Tunisia or Sicily who like the Peeps in Mohanjadaro Will see the mushroom cloud and hold hands and for a very brief moment wonder WTF did we do ?????? plus I think 65 % of France is Electricty is provided from Nuke Power Plants
ROFL PMSL
Hic
I live in South of India Far far away
According to Andrew M Lobaczewski of “Political Ponerology” fame, approx’ 6% of the population are innately psychopathic.
Considering that this percentage equates to about 400,000000 of the worlds people,.I would say the Georgia Guidestones are fairly accurate,..just a thought ( I do have them occasionally) : ) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Guidestones
This idea that uranium is running out is flawed as the amount of money spent on extracting uranium is only a small fraction of the nuclear spend
Even if its price doubles it will not even come close to doubling the cost of nuclear electricity.
Unlike the oil or gas industry the nuclear industry’s cost is front ended on capital infrastructure and fuel costs are low and more stable then fossil fuels.
It also has less political risk as western countries would only have to invest in stable mining areas such as Canada
In the extreme long run uranium will be harder to extract but there is always fast breeder reactors who can utilise a large amount of plutonium
@Frances,….You little twister,…the deal was a “book” or “books” on how to make,…
I could also write the how to series on hats if there is a demand,…time will tell,..: )
AND, Dedo, I want delivery straight-up on all those suits according to the independent and completely disinterested Survival Of Species (SOS) think-tank guidelines. You get the ketchup after full delivery of the suits, and not belly-aching.
Maybe the US and France want to control the nuclear market, related being the choice for Nuclear by the US energy szar, the pressure on Iran to deliver its fission fuel in return for waste, and the push for nuclear in general. But sadly that’s all a ruse because nuclear fuel is running out, only 60% of current requirements being mined each year, the rest comming from domestic and military scource that are running out.
The anti terrorist motive is not entirely fantastical imho, because it was proven a while back its possible to ship a container with explosives directly into the port of LA and the know how to build a small nuclear device is out there. It won’t be fun for Sarkozy to get a letter with a credible threat to evaporate Paris.
Still it would be more clear if we stopped saying terrorists and replaced that by f.i. xyz funded agents. Al Quida may be Saudi funded agents..CIA are US funded agents..
@Iok Sotot, Eater of Souls,..”War isn’t a good method to depopulate”
Going by what Brzezinski said,.I would say that statement is history!
Quote: ”It’s easier to kill a million people than it is to control them” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKzEpQc-yo8
Snoot is right; this is very much to do with US & France trying to control nuclear energy market; it’s also like ‘shock and awe’ a way to sell weapons systems
“Second, enriched uranium at commercial reactor levels is an article of longstanding international commerce. Barring government restrictions, it can easily be transported to and fro between countries that have been steadfast allies of the US. Third, the French government already stands behind the equity capital (and maybe the borrowed capital too) as owner of Areva and intends to collect the profits from the facility. Finally, while uranium enrichment facilities are regulated at all levels of government, the degree of regulatory risk and technical scrutiny is much lower than for nuclear power plants.”
“The U.S., the European Union and Russia are all part of the deal. The Europeans have reacted with the most exasperation. Some diplomats have described it as “the same old tricks.” The French Foreign Ministry called on Iran to provide a formal, positive response without delay.”
Ok, so my comment was part(95%) wishful thinking.
But humans have a tendency to derail even the most elaborate
plans by behaving unexpectedly.
If I knew how to, I would link to The Specials:Enjoy yourself
War isn’t such a great way to reduce the population. Doesn’t actually kill that many people.Take the exploding population in Africa for example where war deaths just can’t keep up with the birthrate dispite more wars per capita than any other continent. War also tends to disrupt the kinds of social structures that might keep conception down like eg: family planning clinics, free contraception, prospects of education etc. etc.
And there’s nothing like getting laid when you think you’re gonna die the next day.
Hmm, that last thought might explain a lot.
I watched a 2 hr. report last night in German TV, concerning Iran and nukes. It was done by a very well known and “good” reporter, as if he had gotten a mandate to warn everyone of coming political decisions that might have to happen , like “which side is Germany on” !
He explained that the main reason to “stop” Iran going nuclear was simply that if they succeed, many other smaller states will follow. He talked to El Baradey, Kissinger and a few other big names.
The US Aircraft Carrier “Washington” was mentioned, that is currently on patrol .. has enough nuclear fuel to last for 20 years !
He was given a (recent) demonstration of the Russian ICBM “state of the art” missile ramping systems, showing that the MAD equilibrium is far from over. i.e. nuclear holocaust is still not “not” an option. Also talked to the Russians about supplying Iran with all their nuclear technology and fuel.
Very interesting … and it is said it highly probable that Iran may already have nukes anyway.
“‘Hopes of a diplomatic breakthrough over Iran’s nuclear programme were dwindling tonight after Tehran demanded changes to a uranium exchange deal that European diplomats described as “unacceptable”.
If the deal collapses, as seems likely, it would deliver another critical blow to Barack Obama’s policy of engagement, and put international sanctions and Israeli military action back on the table.”
France stands to profit greatly from the NPT treaty directives concerning Iranium uranium. The uranium processing is being ‘shared’ by Russia (nuclear five NPT) and France (nuclear five NPT). France is in charge of the fuel rods:
“Fabrication: Precisely Tailoring Uranium Fuel
A fuel fabricator converts uranium hexafluoride, after enrichment, into uranium dioxide powder and presses it into fuel pellets. The fabricator loads the ceramic pellets into long tubes made of a noncorrosive material, usually a zirconium alloy. Once grouped together into a bundle, these tubes, or fuel rods, form a “fuel assembly.””
I am not ‘obsessed’ with France: ignoring France and insisting that the crisis is concerning oil is really naive and last century. The Nuclear five wish to monopolize energy resource through the NPT treaty bullies, IPCC, and the limit on fossil fuel use.
Why is the word thorium not mentioned? Thorium production would eliminate the bullies’ game plan: insisting that the only countries to be trusted enriching fuel would be France, Russia, China, US, and UK.
The US is using the taiwan arms deal to pressure China into sanctions against Iran. This is likely to backfire on the US as the chinese will see straight thru it!
@Grisu,…..The plan is to completely change the financial and social system beyond recognition, this of course needs some heavy impetus!
The objective is to get the people to beg for “help”,.same ole strategy, problem, reaction, solution,..works every time.
How does the song go: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJmBPCYt5LY
There will be no WW3.
The minute the US does anything stupid, China will dump its
dollars.Game over.
We can now all relax and watch the icelanders provide the model
for the rest of the world how to deal with the criminals.
the Third and final World War envisions an attack on Iraq, Iran and/or Syria as being the trigger to set the entire Middle East into fiery conflagration. Once America is firmly entrenched into the Middle East with the majority of her first-line units, North Korea is to attack South Korea. Then, with America’s forces stretched well beyond the limit, China is to invade Taiwan. This will usher in the start of World War Three. http://www.threeworldwars.com/world-war-3/ww3.htm
I’ve got all my “how to” books ready to sell!! : )
Of course from the start war has been the means by which the carrying capacity of the environment asserted itself. Agression developed because agressive individuals where better at providing for themselves where resources where scarce. Sadly the defended ego has been confused by things that don’t disappear or degrade like concepts and now the world is populated by superhuman entities that are as needy and agressive as individual human beings..Conceptual thought is ultimately selfdefeating..
US seems desparate to start a war. Fits in nicely with the eugenics agenda of the elite.
It only dawned upon me this weekend ( amongst others) that reduction in population is so important to the elite for complete control…too much population is unwieldly…especially when many of us have started asking questions and challening the top guys.. and becoming more aware..
But not by very much, as this anti-missile system has plenty of operational and design flaws that have still not been ironed out after nearly 15 years of deployment.
If you read thru the propaganda, under good conditions its success rate is about 50%. Under less than ideal conditions, 25%. Maybe once a week (or fortnight) it might reach 80%, by random chance.
The U.S. Army claimed an initial success rate of 80% in Saudi Arabia and 50% in Israel. Those claims were eventually scaled back to 70% and 40%. However, when President George H. W. Bush traveled to Raytheon’s Patriot manufacturing plant in Andover, Massachusetts during the Gulf War, he declared, the “Patriot is 41 for 42: 42 Scuds engaged, 41 intercepted!”[16] The President’s claimed success rate was thus over 97% during the war.
What this obsession with France after all ? Iran is not the biggest uranium producer in the world. We got plenty of the stuff in Canada. No need for a war. Yes there is need because France too has a nice racket of war profiteering like the USA. Nato/USA bankster and war mongers need a war.
Time to liquidate the inventory. Disgusting when you think that all the hyprocrits say nothing about the 400 nuclear bombs Isreal has. It’s not an invention. It’s a fact. I wouldn’t blame Iran wanting to get the bomb when you see what criminals like Tony Blair and Bush did to Irak. Iran is about 5 to 6 times Irak. What a bunch a murderous fools.
We have to find a substitute to oil. It’s killing us.
How long is Beijing gonna keep paying this sharade?
I mean no one can keep this “myth” alive in believing that you actually want to do something about your deficit and at the same time increase the war budget like Obama has done with or withtout Osama “The living dead zombie terrorist” which will be floating around forever since he was buried years ago.
“The Pentagon will no longer shape the U.S. military to fight two major conventional wars at once, but rather prepare for numerous conflicts and not all in the same style, according to a draft of a new strategic outlook the Pentagon is announcing on Monday”
Iran is not Irak. Obama is one little sionist imperialist indeed. These policies are dictated by the sionist crazies in Tel Aviv. Sorry. But the Israel lobby is quite crazy if it thinks China will accept USA monopoly in the region. Specially that China is now the biggest oil client of Iran, but get this, as of last week of Saudi Arabia !
Its not about oil – this is far deeper and the roots of this go back to the attempted domination of the gulf by london dating back for decades! There is a determination to destroy a ancient culture which threatens the elite in the west!
There is nothing Iran can do to stop what is planned for them and furthermore the Iranians know that whatever thay do or say the Ameraican axis of warmongering is approaching. There will be massive public outcry like never seen before!
OK, War but Americans like war and the Pentagon does war in a very sustainable, quote “environmentally responsible way” thinking bout the “Envoronment” ROFL
So, Killing and Destroying CO2 Haox friendly is OK? But choppers burn a lot off fuel is commonly known so hardly can be taken seriously anymore if you had any doubts that this was the work of the cunning propaganda machine of the ministry of love.
“But as the Pentagon looks to its new planning for future conflicts, the report also says it can be done in an environmentally responsible way by using more solar power, biofuels and overall energy independence as well as pointing out that the Department of Defense, “provides environmental stewardship” at hundreds of bases around the country.”
If the US can destabilize the mid-east the oil supply to China becomes compromized and that might ultimately lead to China’s desintegration. This doesn’t spell good fortune for Holland, with a large turkish population that is clearly not on the US side, and a history of aiding the US (according to Blair motivated by US involvement in Bosnia).
This Tarpley type scenario makes a lot of sense for the US, because they can either use their still considerable force and secure a nice future of picking though the rubble of other countries, or join the menu in the roadkill restaurant.. Collateral damage doesn’t seem to interest the US in any way so the rest of the world better stop this or hold on to their seat.
Paulsons assertion is devious because it is bound to be used to suggest a adverserial alliance between Russia and China (allthought the BRIC have been clear in their position). To defuse the situation its urgent for China to demolish US dependency of financial firms, but that is hampered by the infiltration of US bank interest serving banks handling trades for China. So it is possible China remains paralized regarding the financial timebomb but has to act militarily to avoid someone cutting its oxygen.
My guess is that the result will be decivlilisation, this is the ultimat goal of man’s unconsious actions..
Not a good idea with all these US treasuries bonds in the hands of Chineese. That’s what so beautiful with these treasuries. China hasn’t the need to fire one rocket or one nuclear bomb on the USA.
Last year commerce between Iran and China increased 40%. China has just to unload a couple of US treasuries on the market and the USA is screwed big time. They won’t probably do it. But hey who knows ? If China and Rusia intend giving to USA the control of the whole region, they are quite dumb. I expect that Iran wil probably be bomded by Israel with a nuclear. Yeah Israel is that crazy in 2010.
@ Max K
Got Gold ?
I am not the closest to Iran
Hic
And didja see me post on a JDAM gone wrong after the target was painted by 2 lazers by the ground force
The JDAM landed on 17 or 18 Green Beret
All those movies with Bruce Willis John Mcclane
Dont work in real life
USA has one policy Get ya peeps as far from ta action and carpet bomb the whole freakin area to Kingdom dot com wikepedia false entry
hic
Would hate to see a stray nuke from iether side
Hic
Why was Cheney so worried about the pentagon attack
Ya flying a remote controlled aircraft into a pentagon shaped building using black and white cameras so they painted one side of ta P grass white
Hic
“Earlier, Mrs Clinton met French President Nicolas Sarkozy, who told foreign ambassadors in Paris last week it was time to ”draw consequences from months of efforts in vain” to reach out to Iran diplomatically. ”Work on Iran is progressing with great intensity,” she said.
”France’s leadership is greatly appreciated. The international community is united on Iran.”
Three sets of UN sanctions have failed to halt Iran’s uranium enrichment.”
- Iran hasn’t instigated an invasion of another country in circa 300 years.
- If Iran is attacked, the price of oil will skyrocket, the dollar as a result will get a massive lift in the short term. But what’s that gonna happen to the global economy?
-A invasion of Iran would cause serious geopolitical compromises for China and Russia. These countries on in a military alliance – with nuclear capality.
- France and Germany have oil interests in Iran – what would the EU’s response be?
- I don’t think Iran will be attacked directly – the nuclear deterent of China and Russia seems to be an issue. I think the US is attempting to co-op Iran against Russia and China. Israel is a wild card.
Barry Soetoro Could be selected from the controlled panel of Elitists to win another peace prize.
Blah, blah, blah, blah shit, said the Lunatic In Office.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=J.%2020100202&articleId=17350
http://www.arrestblair.org/
Denver International Airport is a building surrounded by mystery and intrigue.
http://newsflavor.com/opinions/mystery-surrounding-denver-international-airport/
@Y’All
Nu-Clear War – Remix???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYUuTlqTmjM
Ahmadinejad is full of hot air. The mullahs have said they do not condone the use of nuclear weapons, and on that, I believe them. After all, by their reasoning, it would destroy part of God’s creation.
Iran is neither Iraq or Afghanistan. I will remind the readers that it has been a sovereign country (and occasionally, empire) for over 2,500 years. Iraq was a post WWI construction, and Afghanistan has never had a real cohesive government. I would not underestimate a reaction from them if they were to be attacked or backed into a corner. They have been playing politics for a very long time, Islamic Republic or not.
I have actually lived in Iran, and will agree with Marc (a rare thing), that given the choice between having to live many of the countries in the area, or in Iran, I would chose Iran. It has a thriving culture, good food, and is not nearly as repressive as such places as Saudi Arabia. I would not call it a place of great freedom, but then, is the US really all that free any more (with the world’s largest prison population)?
@MAX and @STACY -
What is this story at CNN about February 11 about?
http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/meast/01/31/iran.protests/index.html?section=cnn_latest
QUOTE:
Meanwhile, state-run Press TV quoted Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad on Sunday as saying that the nation will deliver a harsh blow to “global arrogance” on February 11.
America was created with a war. It is a way of life in the ol US of A.
I expect a fairly big blow up is on the horizon.
The smaller created conflicts are just not getting the desired results.
American run by nazis? The president and his parentsand his grandparents were communists. The USSR and the obama adminsitration have no christians in their adminsitrations.
@advocate001:
It’s to connect the ‘inland ports’ for their nafta ideal.
Stalin received trillions from the new york banksters. This funding allowed him and the Red Army to build the largest army and military factories in the world. Stalin threatened to conquer the world with his communism/totalitariansim. Indeed with new Yorks assistance he conquered most of europe. Only a few countries stood up to Stalin and his new york financiers. But at least he was stopped.
Wonder why Buffett bought railcars? It is for the upcoming militarization of the nation. Common sense. America loves war.
boots chains and rotten teeth.
@Y’All
I just love watching the americans and their idiot neighbours always trying to turn this site into a virtual home sweet home… of blandness, racial intolerance… gun worship… while continually trying to build a little disney world for us all to escape reality and play in with special animal masks and name tags for the well behaved children!!!
Ya mean Ma? Ain’t her fault seein’ Pa’z home such-like. He ain’t a’gonna work: sayz his in-vest-ment strategee is not- a’workin’ and a’sittin’ and a’spittin most days waitin fur Granny’s teeth to a-ppreciate. I sayz he’s right sorry gettin’ Ma up that-a-way at her age, but ain’t no one listenin’ to me mostly round here.
@MEPsowing the seeds to preemptive war.
to be sold to the people … future conflict is inevitable, though maybe not imminent. we can not stop an attack once underway.
hence, for our national security we are required to hit the enemy first.
@Snoot. i never bought any fucking guitars.
@Snoot saw the stella reference round here. didn’t know it was in reference to you. long as your not the one on the left. haha
How embarassing for the Pentagon: A U.S. attempt to shoot down a ballistic missile mimicking an attack from Iran FAILED
When’s the wedding, ronron dear? Pa is getting ancy to get me married off to ‘some sucker’ he says.
You ain’t some sucker, airya?
NOT to worry, ronron. We alwayz marriez our cuz’s round here!
Here’s my photo in case ya never seen it!
http://www.jokesandhumor.com/jokes/pictures/redneckfamily.jpg
I’m the purty one with the red umbrelleee. Name’s Stella, but ya’ll can call me ‘honeypot’.
@Snoot. ya northcom. makes us cousins. guess the weddings off.
@ronron:
Thought you would find this interesting:
http://www.northcom.mil/About/history_education/history.html
http://denver.bizjournals.com/denver/stories/2009/02/09/daily86.html
@Snoot. numbers don’t lie, well sometimes. i believe nothing i hear and half of what i see. then i do some homework. asked you for some strange reason.
did the homework on you. hahaha
@ronron:
It’s all speculation, except for the COG protocal. Fascinating idea about underground access at Denver. Who knows? Odd really! They supposedly dug up a lot of earth at that airport for underground structures.
What do you think?
@Justget Itright … The Fateful Geological Prize Called Haiti
Wow …. HAARP ?
@ronron
I thought all the underground cities were in Switzerland … in Denver as well eh ? interesting. had never heard.
the reason i ask Snoot is you mentioned the continuance of government.
The Fateful Geological Prize Called Haiti
Geophysicists believe may be one of the world’s richest zones for hydrocarbons-oil and gas outside the Middle East, possibly orders of magnitude greater than that of nearby Venezuela. …
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=17287
@Snoot. i.m a long way from denver. what’s your opinion on the underground city there. ya or na
Bonn , gold is real money, not an I.O.U. and it has been for 5000 years. I was a gold miner years ago and when the price fell down to US $280. I stopped mining and started buying because I knew it was below the production cost of most mines. I also knew it would not stay down due to supply and demand. When gold was down in the US $250s with talk of it going to US $100 , I continued loading up on unhedged mining companies. Back then there was the dot com bubble going full steam and it was obvious it was not going to last. Just like today’s market manipulations it will not last. In my opinion gold and silver and the mining shares , in your possession are the safest form of saving in today’s world. The price pull backs can be brutal , but they make a great time to buy more. I have sat on my hands and not sold and watched US $500,000.00 go away only to come back and then some. It is gut wrenching to say the least. You need to have conviction and know what money really is. I.O.U.’s are not money . I have a 50,000,000 German marks note that was my great grandfathers , it’s not worth anything. Thats what can happen when you hold I.O.U.s . That’s the lesson it taught me. Everyone should own some gold and silver.
All the best
Vega Man
ooops ronron
@Snoot. thought those murals were at the denver airport?
This sabre rattling gives golden sparks..
Found this interesting http://www.tribune.ie/business/article/2010/jan/31/airport-body-scanners-pandering-to-fears-says-olea/
@bonn
better question imho of course … is when did you/they lean of this …
looking at the continuous gold chart 1073 was a place to expect support technically having been resistance in October support in late December followed by a decent rally … this retest to my eyes is a classic wyckoff spring after a JOC.
will this rally attempt lead to follow through and a retest of the highs ?
if a bull market odds say yes if a technical reversal in DX then we retest lower before making new highs it seems to me …
I know bonn … cheap free you get what you pay for.
@Bonn:
What do you think about thorium?
It is named after Thor’s hammer: which is interesting. Thors hammer is pictured in the happy-happy joy-joy mural at the Denver museum:
http://justgetthere.us/blog/uploads/DenverAirport11.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_JSpbgoKp8LA/SaKPiTwBqmI/AAAAAAAADrM/ckgPcEDUam4/s400/441_DenverAirportMural-1.jpg
The little boy is German. He is hammering ‘peace’ through Thor’s hammer: representing an end to war. And the use of uranium?
Blackwater still winning contracts under different company names; sounds like Blackwater has TWENTY different “affiliate” companies!
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/blackwater-names/story?id=9634372
How many peeps here Knew tat SR -71
Expands by 1.5 feet
It freakin leaks gas as it takes off
The Gas don’t ignite on heat
It needs an additive to ignite
Ooooohhhhhh
I give up
We got a bunch of controll freaks
We gotta say noooooo
Fuck u n fuck off
Electric wire s that withstand 800 degrees cecius
An aircraft that expands 1n a half feet @ operational speeds
Ya invent tat
BS big BS
They have technology which makes em Imortal
They can live for ever
With zero point energy
Hic
Oooo could explain more but I’d be called an Idiot
After all they made 1000 inventions a day while buildin the SR – 71 in 19 56
Hic
@Bonn
Yep, many black-op projects funded in space program BS. BTW Obama changed ? Yes, ahahaha! His mind that’s the only thing what is changing in The U.S. at the moment cause “The U.S. is not going to the Moon” as formerly promised by Obama. But he’s gonna spend it somewhere else, on earth he said wink wink. Do I smell coffee somewhere?
@ Youri Carma
Hun they already Calclated wind n stuff
They just need an excuse now
Hic
Silent Weapons for Silent wars,.
http://www.syti.net/GB/SilentWeaponsGB.html
The Day Gold Is treated as
as
as
an un accountable peace of shittttt
WTF do u use Gold For
???
I am 34 i aint used Gold till now niether did me Dad
tats 70 years
@ Bonn
6,400 million which is 6,4 billion if 400 million has to be the end number alive.
Problems with using Nukes is the contamination from the Fall Out which will kill most of us but also can pass borders if the wind may be in a certain direction which could cause “unforeseen” victims including the evildoers themselves.
@Youri,……You’re thinking is old school I’m afraid,..
My guess is,.there are particles already circulating your system,..all it takes is a certain frequency, and ZAP!
E.G,..HARRP, Spraying of the atmosphere.
Not unlike folk still holding onto the idea of “gold” as a store of wealth because it has always been that way,..like I say, old school thinking!
Just a thought,..
Disclaimer: I’m not an advocate of these ideas,.they’re just ideas : )
The Reagan “Star Wars” project was
Was fundin another project hun
@ Y
I Know Milatry might of each freakin country dont go threre
@ Youri Carma
Wont ya think of all possibilites while sending nuke signatures
Tink like an arsehole tink of all possibilties
Hic
would’nt ya do tat
What if me ICBM splits Six
Its so difficult to counter react to a threat
Hic
Can we all turn ta same page
at ta same time
they wanna kill 5 bill
in the near future
Who ta fuck is :”Henry Kissinger”
Peeps were surprised tat I had a huffington report on tat screwball n david rockerfeller
U’all wanna me to wamoosh
Just say so
@Y’all
and
@Dedo
Brezinski maybe be right about “killing 1 million people is easier than controlling 1 million” but we are with 6,800 million (6,8 billion) people and bringing back the population to 400 million, Georgia Guidestones accordingly, isn’t that easy like it sounds even for the more “intelligent” psychopaths.
@Iok Sotot, Eater of Souls : “War isn’t such a great way to reduce the population. ”
Depends if Nukes used or not. Biggest war crime committed by the U.S. Army in my opinion is the use of depleted Uranium in all kinds of ammunition also in artillery and Tank brizant granites which leave loads of poisonous depleted Uranium on any battlefield like in Iraq lately. This is not only very unhealthy for the military themselves firing this ammunition but also poison the environment for many years to come with radiation contamination causing cancer for the U.S. Military and the people who have to live again on the land. This truly is a crime against humanity and should be taken before the U.N. and the international court.
@Bonn
Knowing a thing or two about ICBMs cause I am a son of a b*** and studied the subject for many years it’s also known within the military think tanks that these Patriots were not as successful as was claimed by the Israeli and American propaganda also to keep morale high in not admitting the real damage in the MSM.
The difficulty isn’t when one missile has to be intercepted but in a real Nuke war multiple missiles will be fired which is a completely other ball game. The Reagan “Star Wars” project was merely “cold war” propaganda cause unsuccessful. The research during this project showed that it’s impossible to defend at showering multiple fragmenting warheads especially not if the defense cost of every defending missile is more than $9 million a piece.
@Y’all
and
@Dedo
Brezinski maybe be right about “killing 1 million people is easier than controlling 1 million” but we are with 6,800 million (6,8 billion) people and bringing back the population to 400 million, Georgia Guidestones accordingly, isn’t that easy like it sounds even for the more “intelligent” psychopaths.
@Iok Sotot, Eater of Souls : “War isn’t such a great way to reduce the population. ”
Depends if Nukes used or not. Biggest war crime committed by the U.S. Army in my opinion is the use of depleted Uranium in all kinds of ammunition also in artillery and Tank brizant granites which leave loads of poisonous depleted Uranium on any battlefield like in Iraq lately. This is not only very unhealthy for the military themselves firing this ammunition but also poison the environment for many years to come with radiation contamination causing cancer for the U.S. Military and the people who have to live again on the land. This truly is a crime against humanity and should be taken before the U.N. and the international court.
@Bonn
Knowing a thing or two about ICBMs cause I am a son of a b*** and studied the subject for many years it’s also known within the military think tanks that these Patriots were not as successful as was claimed by the Israeli and American propaganda also to keep morale high in not admitting the real damage in the MSM.
The difficulty isn’t when one missile has to be intercepted but in a real Nuke war multiple missiles will be fired which is a completely other ball game. The Reagan “Star Wars” project was merely “cold war” propaganda cause unsuccessful. The research during this project showed that it’s impossible to defend at showering multiple fragmenting warheads especially not if the defense cost of every defending missile is more than $9 million a piece.
Thank God
I have zero invested in Gold
ROFL PMSL
Hic
Scam watchin out
Gold must be responding to instability in the world.
it’s a traditional safe harbor when fiat currencies look weak.
Additionally, the liquidation of short positions can be accelerated by people accepting only delivery of the asset.
@ Maxy
Nom nom
Ya had inside info on GOLD
I’am sure now
Hic
What the fuck up wit gold
LMAO
Hic
@bonn did I know ?
yes. I have read about the Bush’s.
out to lunch.
be well bonn.
@ have read the Unseen Hand your thoughts on that book
Is a subliminal message ta rest of Freemasons
Dont let the right hand know what the left hand is doing
Meaning I am one of yours public before we got faster communications
Didjaa know Bush Senior called fer JFK assination
Bush Junior was asked to kill JFK Junior
@ Skippy
@ S
Ya need a run down on the Rothchilds I tink
do you have a link that is mostly true vs conspiratorial ?
I have read the Unseen Hand your thoughts on that book ?
http://www.amazon.com/Unseen-Hand-Ralph-Epperson/dp/0961413506
@ Peter
….and elements from the US sell guns into Mexico thereby fueling the narcowar down there. Should the nation of Mexico decide to simplify matters by organizing an international embargo and possible military attack against the US?
Iran is a sovereign nation. They did not put us into Iraq. No wonder we have problems with borders. We don’t respect the borders of other sovereign nations.
IMO
Has any family got poorer as time line progresses
Hic
Xcept JFK
@Dude She has no clue what is on the inside
thanks for providing me a value scale from which to measure.
Ha Ha HA!! The change is to be more war like and spend more money than anyone in history. All China has to do is very quietly stop buying debt and it will do the same thing as BO( he stinks) domestic and forgein policies. I am ashamed to be an american. I wish I had a choice in who I want to run the country but their all the same. Might as well laugh as we destroy the world ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha !!!!!! Have a great day!!!
@ S
Ya need a run down on the Rothchilds I tink
Chapman is a hypnotist
A family’s mission wont change
12 or 13 of em
why would they
I would’nt if i was in thier shoes
@The West cannot afford a long drawn out war of attrition in either Afghanistan or Iraq
unless the goal is to use the US military presence(bases) in the gulf(iraq) and central eurasia (afganhistan) is to dictate the economic development in a region full of natural resources.
…preventing Iran from establishing energy transit routes to china.. the goal since the attack on iraq to affect Iranian hegemony.
@ skippy
Arundhati Roy’s, The God of Small Things,
Dude She has no clue what is
on the inside
at the edge off a cliff
Tis site has unbelivable insight
God knows how Maxy gets inside Info
Even when I tell peeps of Georgia Stone hinge
They laugh at me
Inculding Maxy boy
Hic
Peter, you have to think like the banksters think. The world is their oyster so to speak. Us peasants are just cannon fodder and something they can steal from for eternity. The banksters are world wide. They have no allginance to any country. So a war here or there is nothing to them but profit making. And then rebuilding and profit making.
Bonn I have not read but have thought about reading Arundhati Roy’s, The God of Small Things, have you read it and would you recommend it ?
johnseattle, my own theory is the banksters won’t crash the market till everything is in place to control all the idiot masses. Alot of the idiot masses are waking up to the corruption of the banksters. If the markets were to collapse now the idiot masses would know who to point the finger at. If some other altercation were to happen to cause the markets to collapse that would be most prudent for the banksters and get them off the hook.
Iran shares a border with both Iraq and Afghanistan and is a major supplier of weapons to the both the Iraq insurgents and the Taliban. If that source of weaponry was no longer available it would make the job of the western military a great deal easier.
The West cannot afford a long drawn out war of attrition in either Afghanistan or Iraq – the sovereing deficits are just too great, An attack on Iran, neutering the insurgents in the existing two theatres of conflict, has a sort of insane logic to it.
Hope for the best and prepare for the worst.
@ Dedo
cause me scared of public debate
In innovative abuse I need 4 larges of Whisky
and the net
But over a fair neutral ground
I challenge anyone
I use ta drink with a friend where we discussed evrytin under the sun
We also discussed “Child abuse”
In India its swept under te carpet
Sadly lotta women even in middle class familys get abused as a child 4 or 8 yr old Vs a 17 year old cousin
Me heart crys out
I spoke to 4 women I got intimate to they said yup been through tat
Life is a bitch then ya die
then ya get reminded by fake SG –> level 6
The empty suit failed to sell the american people his game plan. The GDP lie is being ripped apart and the market is getting ready to collapse! Its time for a diversion!
Annoy your legislators by sending emails expressing your objections to any further hostilities toward Iran. Your emails messages will be tallied and help cancel out a bit of the noise from constituents who beat the war drums.
Remind the congress critters that an embargo may be an act of war and that war is a failure of diplomacy. Let them know that they are failures if there is war.
http://www.house.gov/
http://www.senate.gov/
This woman has called for a National Strike from 4-25 to 4-18
http://www.taxfree15.com/ She has been posted on two high traffic websites. Probably nothing will happen until the dollar dies. If you have seen Obama’s budget, you will likely conclude that the dollar won’t last long. Maybe his handlers expect the next war to solve their problems.
Bob Chapman has said 80,000 Americans are leaving the country a day. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1nTTB6-h6o
PS@Jim Robers on CNBC …
Old video .. but he was right !
help me out bonn …
which argument ?
@ Skippy
There is so many holes in u’r argument
………………………………
Jim Robers on CNBC …
the Federal Reserve is worsening the depression
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6nMHwF6Ks8
@Bonn,…wow!,..if that’s level 2, I’d hate to witness level 10
: (
Iran is more sophisticated politically than Saudi Arabia.
Here here
I second Cal Doc
@California Doctor
The potential for change in Iran is far better than in the arab world. They are not in power. So. They still manage to have newpapers and get elected even with rigged elections!. The infrastructure like in Poland, for a change is there.
It’s not the case in the arab world. Iran is not a desparate situation as Saudi Arabia and all these USA puppet regimes. I can just imagine what will happen when oil in Saudi Arabia runs out. Iran is more sophisticated politically than Saudi Arabia.
@ Dedo
Even I agree the new SG seems to be an 16 year old on harmonal imbalance with steroids
SG aint Super Geek
Super Geek had some informative stuff
SG just abusis us cause he/she most probable he has erectile disfunction
Hic
Ooooo I can be lot meaner tis is level 2
of 10
Looks like the March time table announced by GE, through CNBC and exposed by Max is still on schedule.
Here is Max’s On the Edge from December 04, 2009: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPZVboUt5sw
Good job Max. Keep exposing these Financial Terrorists.
@bonn
1000 Zimbabwean dollars ?
skip, I wonder how much of the trickle down from the banksters goes into senator dods pockets.
Watching the hearings on timmy and hanky panky paulson really showed who’s getting the bankster handouts. There are some evil people in washington.
@Stacy,…..Nah,.can’t be, the SuperGeek I remember was quite the amiable chap! : )
@ skippy
Any freakin defence mechanism is fabricated
ya have zero chance if an ICBM is launched at ya
Hic
By the way I bet 1000 $ on that
Peeps dont make killing m/c’s with a kill switch
And frankly speakin I am tired of defending me position
Being from a military BK
U right mate
In Senator Dodds eyes the only way the observable damage in main street USA gets addressed is via trickle down from wall street …
@Marc – you have completely lost me in your comments.
The presence of organized opposition parties is not relevant because they are NOT in power.
The power center currently lies in the banking centers, which are already financially fraudulent.
Yet, our elected officials choose continue to prostitute themselves to Blankfein et al instead of just responding to the observable damage in main street USA.
@Matey your defence system has 0.01 percent chance of evadinding a nuke hit
your ? you dont know me.
* correction
99.99 %
@ since now … if you say so …
@Do you want a nuke war ???
a rhetorical question, right ?
if not ..I dont want any war .. a world war can not be won ..
@Dedo – he’s still here, he just changed his name to SG
Anyone know where that SuperGeek fella went,..he used to be quite funny!,….: )
I give up Y’all
wachin grammy awards now
Hic
Matey your defence system has 0.01 percent chance of evadinding a nuke hit
Or ya think ya keeanow Reeves of ta matrix
All defence systems are doctored brother
And even think fuckin logically
when do you shoot an incoming ICBM
What if its just a test ????
Hic
Hate new bees
@All the world has has a right to vote on a nuke war
since when ?
Since now
Do you want a nuke war ???
Untested shit
Hic
@California Doctor.
Is there an opposition in Saudi Arabia ? I know that Iran is not a paradise. Iran has a strong opposition COMPARED to all these arab countries either runned by kings or dictators. Having the choice to live in Libya or Iran, I would choose Iran without hesitation. Yes. Serious. The opposition in Iran has newspapers. Try that in Irak, in Koweit, in Libya, in UEA, in Saudi Arabia, in Yemen. Even tolerant Dubai is runnede by a king. It’s not an excuse to declaring war to Iran. Why not declaring war to Saudi Ariabia, Or China ?
@All the world has has a right to vote on a nuke war
since when ?
Once it goes nuke
What makes ya think N.Korea wont join ta party
Just for kicks—> for all ta sactions imposed
I’ve worked at IISc PEEPs
Hic
And Skippy me family got out of politics because of corruption
Hic
Bit gloomy Monday here at the corral, here is something we all have experienced. It was a miracle, no?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWxv94iawCQ&feature=player_embedded
@ S
@Any afrikan country is fine to plunder
We all know Afrika doesnt have an unknown Nuke progamme
Cause I am worried about untested Nuke War heads
I think I have a right to be
I aint no madam Querie
and prevailing winds movin radiations
All the world has has a right to vote on a nuke war
Hic
Why do you think they conduct tests in deserts
Cause they no that peeps wont inhabit that place
OOOOOooooooo loosing me cool explainin now
But I want one of those ICBM’s Rubber Valves to fail
Tooo funny
ROFL
Hic
Change = acceleration effect
moving towards what we have always moved towards only more quickly now.
@ skippy
Germany was on the brink on Wiemar republic
Before Hitler got fundin from Rothchilds
Also grandpa bush was involved
So he provided Jobs
Where he got ta money nobody questioned
Get real mate or get updated
Hic
@skippy – People turned on each other vs. turning on state
The people in Germany and Europe were the peasants being used in the war. The bankers who backed the Nazi’s and also backed war time production for the allies should be reviewed.
There was a report that Citi’s corporate parent was involved in backing Hitler’s National Socialist activity.
IMO
USA has cunningly diguised itself as White Sheep
But now I can see right through ‘em
Obama – “We are Change!!”
Change for the freakin worse IMO
@Germany was a democratic republic in the 1930’s.
The sheeple elected Hitler.
the people were given a choice, turning on each other vs turning on the State ?
@Bonn
Don’t worry. Obaaaaananana and Bushiiit too, must have a biggie one in Cayman Island and Switzerland.
I am always amused when people think that the big bank accounts are only in a third world country. USA crony third world country EXACTLY like Pakistan.
No difference today. No difference whatsoever. We will soon be a huge globa hell hole. “We are the World.” Bonn. Don’t you forget it.
International crornies unite !
United Oligarchs of the World rejoice ! UOW !
@ MA
Is Saudi Arabia democratic ? Iran is more democratic than most of the rotten arab
Now ya get to notice US has a base in Saudi right ??
Saudi sells oil to who ?
Saudis are happy cause it aint a harsh dictatorship
I’ve been in Iraq mate
They used Oil to prevent sand dunes from covering Highways
Oil->meaning petrol was free in the middle East in 70′s
Just pull into a gas station fill for free
They had fridges runnin on petrol cause it was free
Tats why i dont belive we’ve hit peak Oil
@Marc -
Germany was a democratic republic in the 1930′s.
The sheeple elected Hitler.
Elections can be rigged and the people can be wrong.
What then?
How do you have a peaceful revolt and revolution?
Or is your anarchistic rhetoric without conscience for the 30-40 million people who died between 1939-1945 in the last global conflagration?
This conflagration could be more significant as “developing” countries exercise nuclear might. This includes Pakistan, India, Israel, and China. This list excludes the Koreas, Japan, and assumes that European nuclear nations are out of the picture as well.
Benazir Bhutto
LMAO she probably did’nt know why she died
but was happy having a Swiss account with 700 mill
Dumb Blokesss
Hic
@Any afrikan country is fine to plunder
We all know Afrika doesnt have an unknown Nuke progamme
I always thought, since the level of energy consumption in the west can not be supported by teh entire planet, and when Africa begins stepping towards consumption, beginning to utilize their “allotment” of resources … folks in Africa had to start dying or the west needed to stop thinking about more.
so folks in Africa started dying by the millions.
aint it great to be consuming other peoples natural resources … as they are weak and “we” are strong …
feudal law … he shall take … he shall keep who can.
@Bonn
Is Saudi Arabia democratic ? Iran is more democratic than most of the rotten arab regimes in the region. It’s a fact.
Maybe just Maybe they coulda gone after Iran when it was’nt Democratic
Hell it may be corrupt
Indian Elections are corrupt
That does not give any country the right to Invade a democratic country
Hic
No way Hose N I hopefully India should support Iran
All it takes is one Guy remember one Guy who has lost everything to respond even if it took him 20 years to be a sleeper to reach a position
Hic
Any afrikan country is fine to plunder
We all know Afrika doesnt have an unknown Nuke progamme
Hic
thanks for the heads up Max
I take back anything I may have said about the Maret….
@ Marc Authier
we all know its about OIL
But tis is a very dangerous game of Chicken USA is playing
Iran is a Democratic country
USA IMO wanted to pick on N Korea for what reason go figure
But they have no clue what N Korea is capable of
So they decided Iran
Russia probably has OIL
Do u see USA threatenin Russia
Russia Will show em the middle finger and say just try it buddy
Bonnie in Clyde did also run outta luck
Hic
@phil
I getting kinda worried about your powers of observation… if it”s took you that long to notice the TWITTER feed… I wonder what else you might be missing!!!
Third World War has begun.
Uranium. Come on. It’s not about uranium. It’s about OIL !
OIL ! OIL ! OIL ! Iran is close also to Central Asia and the Caspian Sea. And what to you find in great quantity in the Caspian Sea ? OIL. That dirty dirty dirty dirty dirty dirty OIL. The nuclear argument is just a good excuse.
“Guns an Oil”
And Belive you me I am 100 % sure they aint no Kill switch on the ICBM
Who tha F@#K has time in a Nuke War
Hic
If ya think theres a Kill switch ya living in a dream land
Hic
“American officials said the move is aimed at deterring an attack by Iran and reassuring Gulf states fearful that Tehran might react to sanctions by striking at US allies in the region.”
we can not predict the response of poking a stick into the eye of a caged “animal” … hence our action to deploy armaments …
and if you think this is over the top think of what we will be able to get away with in the event of an actual crisis.
And this passes for foreign policy ? A game a chicken ?
Marking time as we step towards what has always been teh desired outcome …
Bastards.
I forgot. The next scanner to be installed next month will the lie detector gizmo, and the alpha terrorist brain wave detecting zapper. Followed by a total proctology of all orifices and gamma ray CAT scan,
Embarqment in 480 hours. All liquids, blood. sperm and milk, irradiated with poliniun 210, forced vaccination with massive doses of mecury, squalene, lithium and prozac. That’s for next month.
Have a nice flight with Air Obeeeey-mamatalibanana
http://www.prisonplanet.com/no-genitalia-measurement-no-fly.html
Soon to be installed on all AMTRAK trains, in the metro, at bus stops and all Wal Marts. I would like it to be a joke. But it’s true. We are runned by Nazis.
@Dedo ….RE: Birdfeed,
LOL… by coincidence, just built a little bird-feed-house for the birds outside … 1 meter of snow here in N. Germany .
IMO
Irans already got Nukes
If Pakistan can rush to Bejing After we Exploded one
I am sure Irans already got ‘em from Pakistan I think lol
Hic
…Witness the biggest shift in editorial sentiment ever seen when the WSJ starts comparing bankers to terrorists…
Upcoming Default Tsunami Grabs Power from Banking Industry
http://seekingalpha.com/article/185725-upcoming-default-tsunami-grabs-power-from-banking-industry?source=article_lb_articles
@Y’All
I like this bit as well as the “Let me tell you what is gonna happen next”… BIT!!!
Lord of War – intro
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sh_b7zitUb8
The TSA and Homeland Security now want the exacte measures of your penis and your vagina. Is this a joke ? Knowing the bastards now running the place, I think not. Fuckin American nazi eugenists.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/no-genitalia-measurement-no-fly.html
I really think that USA is runned by sick nazis fucks. Enjoy liberty while it last. Obama is a fine piece of giant manure indeed. It get’s worts by the hour. Say what you think before the cut your balls. Yeah it’s vulgar. So is Obanana that unamable piece of dirt. Dirts. It’s getting worst by the minute. What’s the next step ? A sperm count to take the plane and an ovulation test. Never what in them.
I remeber Saddams Scud falling in Israel during Gulf war 1 Dud Scud
Always wondered wheather Saddam puposefully did’nt let it explode or it failed
Though he fired only one I think at Israel
Hic
Who knows
The TSA and Homeland Security now wants the exacte measures of your penis and your vagina.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/no-genitalia-measurement-no-fly.html
I really thinl that USA is runned by sick nazis fucks. Enjoy liberty while it last. Obama is a fine piece of giant manure indeed. It get’s worts by the hour.
And the best part is it aint fesabile to test a Live ICBM
Rofl
You’d have North Korea say “Well You go ahead with ya live test, But If i Have a feeling its heading my way
200 of em gonna be launched from here mate”
Hic Plus I too wanna conduct a Live test
Then ya have 10,000 nervous scientest and Defence personal worldwide
Hic
ROFL PMSL
@lek
I would be careful in using morality in either justifying or rejecting armed conflict
Morality is never the cause of armed conflict – it is very important however since countries need a moral argument to justify to its masses and army the need to go to war
Haiti, the next Saudia Arabia? Well written article by F. William Engdahl. Scroll down to second red *
Things seem to be really heating up with the US. From the Indians to the third world to Haiti, the same old tactics. When will people learn from history?
http://www.parenting-healthy-children.com/News.html
@Y’All
OMG…. I think I’ve just been sick in my mouth…. OMG, the world is fucked up and … WE ARE CONSTANTLY AT WAR AND TRYING TO CREATE MORE WARS … yet some people come here to constantly play MENTAL WAR GAMES and CARPET BOMB the SITE with their sad RUNNING JOKES and play out some scene like a fucked WAR BABY who has been reunited with it’s MOTHER in the RUBBLE… amazing… Sad and Desperate… ‘S’ and ‘D’ Y’ALL, SAD and DESPERATE HA, HA!!!
let’s see…iran is defying sanctions and nearing its goal of obtaining nuclear weapons. Here in Thailand a plane full of weapons parts was intercepted on its way from N. Korea to…Iran. The country is ruled by religious facists who have publicly stated they want to exterminate the jewish people. And then the US sends some patriot missles (defensive, not offensive) and yet its the US that is escalating? Nice logic Stacy. Same with Ethiopia. they raise an army to try to defend against the islamists and suddenly, they have the biggest army, they are brutes, etc., etc., no mention of the brutes overrunning their eastern border killing non muslims as they go. What is the deal with liberals and islam? Here is a religion that creates apartheid against non muslims, considers women to be chattel with half the right of men at law, that has a death penalty for those who change their religion, that kills gays, and their biggest supporters in the west are…liberals. Really amazing to me. And then your remark about the biggest jew killers being German Christians. Why not search on youtube for Nazi-Muslim SS division and educate yourself on Hitlers preference for islam over christianity and his collaberation with Hajj Al Amin Husseni.
@motherearth
I don’t doubt that information
You have to realise that the worlds economic problems are a sum of short term economic decisions where today’s wealth have been used for today’s consumption rather then in future capital investments
When or if the implicit guarantee for bank capital ends , real capital investments will again become more competitive
Most of the wests capital goes into banks who provide capital towards consumers who quite naturally consume rather in invest
The real market have been giving these signals since the eighties yet central banks have continued to channel capital towards consumption
Until there is massive fiscal spending on projects that increase systems energy output the western economies will continue to run down their systems while incorrectly spending their precious capital on futile monetary experiments which are a road to the dark ages
hihi http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1t5fVsknJcc
@Phil,….RE: Birdfeed,..
You ever seen those bags of nuts, that are hung out for blue tits and sparrows etc,…
Same thing,..: )
/commmunication
Too many channels
@ P/G
Its been there for 2 weeks now I think or a week
Hic
With all me Whisky I noticed it befor ya
Also signed up and following Stacey But Cant handle oe more form of interaction
What that on the top right ? … Birdfeed
Never noticed it before … Twitter ?
An addendum to my previous post/link:
http://www.veronicachapman.com/links/Psychopaths.htm
Being the son of a test pilot knowing a thing or 2 about Defence technology

Hic
Bear in mind Maxy boy the ICBMS with nukes in em have never been tested in thier entirety
Seperately yes
So all of a sudden ya have 20 or 30 Untested ICBMS flying all over ta place
If Even one of those Egines fails -> a directional thruster or a programming error ;a missing semicolon
Cause they wanted to save memory
maybe because they did’nt replace a Valve cause it actually has a shelf life of 2 years and not 3 as specified by the supplier
Kabooooommmmm Tunisia or Sicily who like the Peeps in Mohanjadaro Will see the mushroom cloud and hold hands and for a very brief moment wonder WTF did we do ?????? plus I think 65 % of France is Electricty is provided from Nuke Power Plants
ROFL PMSL
Hic
I live in South of India Far far away
Banks don’t own the franchise of highway robbery.. http://tinyurl.com/yl37c7u
@frances
Thank you for your answer.
I usually get frustrated when I have to read again and again how its
one countries or anothers fault (often mixed with stereotypical insults).
You can almost hear the real crooks laughing in the background.
@Dork of Cork
“without access to the military stocks, the civilian western uranium stocks will be exhausted by 2013, concludes Dittmar.”
http://www.technologyreview.com/blog/arxiv/24414/
According to Andrew M Lobaczewski of “Political Ponerology” fame, approx’ 6% of the population are innately psychopathic.
Considering that this percentage equates to about 400,000000 of the worlds people,.I would say the Georgia Guidestones are fairly accurate,..just a thought ( I do have them occasionally) : )
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Guidestones
hairdresser talks about body scanners:
http://davemiller.org/drawings/hairdresser/hairdresser_bodyscanners.png
This idea that uranium is running out is flawed as the amount of money spent on extracting uranium is only a small fraction of the nuclear spend
Even if its price doubles it will not even come close to doubling the cost of nuclear electricity.
Unlike the oil or gas industry the nuclear industry’s cost is front ended on capital infrastructure and fuel costs are low and more stable then fossil fuels.
It also has less political risk as western countries would only have to invest in stable mining areas such as Canada
In the extreme long run uranium will be harder to extract but there is always fast breeder reactors who can utilise a large amount of plutonium
@Frances,….You little twister,…the deal was a “book” or “books” on how to make,…
I could also write the how to series on hats if there is a demand,…time will tell,..: )
Guys,
This has been coming since June 2003. Of the failed attempts so far.
4.10.04
31.12.05
7.1.06
7.8.08
This year or never, March-April seems good.
AND, Dedo, I want delivery straight-up on all those suits according to the independent and completely disinterested Survival Of Species (SOS) think-tank guidelines. You get the ketchup after full delivery of the suits, and not belly-aching.
@Grisu:
Good Lord!
The US is thick-as-thieves! I’m not supporting our flag-waving MIC mockery of ‘world freedom’ crap outta O-bomb-a’s mouth!!!
Our industry is to make world misery!
@Dedo:
Well….Do they come with tinfoil helmets? I think seeing as my ketchup is American AAA grade I should get some helmet gear thrown-in-for-free.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/jul/08/javier-solana-eu-foreign-policy
@Frances,…Smell the Coffee!!,…
They’re my hot dogs,…all MINE,..I just need some seasoning!
DO YOU WANT THE SUITS OR NOT? ; )
Maybe the US and France want to control the nuclear market, related being the choice for Nuclear by the US energy szar, the pressure on Iran to deliver its fission fuel in return for waste, and the push for nuclear in general. But sadly that’s all a ruse because nuclear fuel is running out, only 60% of current requirements being mined each year, the rest comming from domestic and military scource that are running out.
The anti terrorist motive is not entirely fantastical imho, because it was proven a while back its possible to ship a container with explosives directly into the port of LA and the know how to build a small nuclear device is out there. It won’t be fun for Sarkozy to get a letter with a credible threat to evaporate Paris.
Still it would be more clear if we stopped saying terrorists and replaced that by f.i. xyz funded agents. Al Quida may be Saudi funded agents..CIA are US funded agents..
@frances
Its all the fault of those pesky europeans and their cabal of royals
and shysters.The US had nothing to do with it.Happy now?
@Iok Sotot, Eater of Souls,..”War isn’t a good method to depopulate”
Going by what Brzezinski said,.I would say that statement is history!
Quote: ”It’s easier to kill a million people than it is to control them”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKzEpQc-yo8
@Dedo:
What a second….I thought the deal was body armour for ketchup: you never indicated hotdogs were involved!!!
@Stacey:
What role do you see Russia playing?
http://www.lewrockwell.com/sardi/sardi150.html
where’s the pork flu??
@Frances,…As long as it goes with hot dogs, you’ve got a deal! : )
one word:
stupid
(yes, we got gold, we do see a pattern here w.r.t. USAsian behaviour)
Snoot is right; this is very much to do with US & France trying to control nuclear energy market; it’s also like ‘shock and awe’ a way to sell weapons systems
“One of my books: How to make a chemical suit with cereal box’s and some sticky backed paper.
Price: One jar of mustard or relish : /”
Will ketchup do, Dedo?
The minute the US does anything stupid, China will dump its
dollars.Game over.
What entity controls the central banks, the sdr-sustitution accounts, and the IMF?
http://www.energy-daily.com/reports/French_nuclear_group_Areva_beats_profit_forecasts_999.html
“Under its 2008-2012 strategic plan the company is aiming for annual sales of more than 20 billion euros, compared with 11.92 billion euros last year.
Areva is 85 percent owned by the state.”
http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/12/uranium_enrichment_us_governme.html
“Second, enriched uranium at commercial reactor levels is an article of longstanding international commerce. Barring government restrictions, it can easily be transported to and fro between countries that have been steadfast allies of the US. Third, the French government already stands behind the equity capital (and maybe the borrowed capital too) as owner of Areva and intends to collect the profits from the facility. Finally, while uranium enrichment facilities are regulated at all levels of government, the degree of regulatory risk and technical scrutiny is much lower than for nuclear power plants.”
French social programs via NPT hegemony?
“The U.S., the European Union and Russia are all part of the deal. The Europeans have reacted with the most exasperation. Some diplomats have described it as “the same old tricks.” The French Foreign Ministry called on Iran to provide a formal, positive response without delay.”
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=114329472
@Dedo
Ok, so my comment was part(95%) wishful thinking.
But humans have a tendency to derail even the most elaborate
plans by behaving unexpectedly.
If I knew how to, I would link to The Specials:Enjoy yourself
@ Mother Earth
War isn’t such a great way to reduce the population. Doesn’t actually kill that many people.Take the exploding population in Africa for example where war deaths just can’t keep up with the birthrate dispite more wars per capita than any other continent. War also tends to disrupt the kinds of social structures that might keep conception down like eg: family planning clinics, free contraception, prospects of education etc. etc.
And there’s nothing like getting laid when you think you’re gonna die the next day.
Hmm, that last thought might explain a lot.
Nuclear + Iran
I watched a 2 hr. report last night in German TV, concerning Iran and nukes. It was done by a very well known and “good” reporter, as if he had gotten a mandate to warn everyone of coming political decisions that might have to happen , like “which side is Germany on” !
He explained that the main reason to “stop” Iran going nuclear was simply that if they succeed, many other smaller states will follow. He talked to El Baradey, Kissinger and a few other big names.
The US Aircraft Carrier “Washington” was mentioned, that is currently on patrol .. has enough nuclear fuel to last for 20 years !
He was given a (recent) demonstration of the Russian ICBM “state of the art” missile ramping systems, showing that the MAD equilibrium is far from over. i.e. nuclear holocaust is still not “not” an option. Also talked to the Russians about supplying Iran with all their nuclear technology and fuel.
Very interesting … and it is said it highly probable that Iran may already have nukes anyway.
FWIW
“‘Hopes of a diplomatic breakthrough over Iran’s nuclear programme were dwindling tonight after Tehran demanded changes to a uranium exchange deal that European diplomats described as “unacceptable”.
If the deal collapses, as seems likely, it would deliver another critical blow to Barack Obama’s policy of engagement, and put international sanctions and Israeli military action back on the table.”
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/oct/29/iran-nuclear-uranium-exchange-deal
If the US citizens stopped paying their taxes, these wars would be over.
@Marc:
France stands to profit greatly from the NPT treaty directives concerning Iranium uranium. The uranium processing is being ‘shared’ by Russia (nuclear five NPT) and France (nuclear five NPT). France is in charge of the fuel rods:
“Fabrication: Precisely Tailoring Uranium Fuel
A fuel fabricator converts uranium hexafluoride, after enrichment, into uranium dioxide powder and presses it into fuel pellets. The fabricator loads the ceramic pellets into long tubes made of a noncorrosive material, usually a zirconium alloy. Once grouped together into a bundle, these tubes, or fuel rods, form a “fuel assembly.””
http://www.nei.org/howitworks/factsheets/nuclearfuelproduction/
Iran does not want to ship all their uranium in-one-go. France and Russia want it now, all of it, and no arguments:
http://original.antiwar.com/sahimi/2009/11/02/can-iran-trust-russia-and-france-with-its-uranium/
I am not ‘obsessed’ with France: ignoring France and insisting that the crisis is concerning oil is really naive and last century. The Nuclear five wish to monopolize energy resource through the NPT treaty bullies, IPCC, and the limit on fossil fuel use.
Why is the word thorium not mentioned? Thorium production would eliminate the bullies’ game plan: insisting that the only countries to be trusted enriching fuel would be France, Russia, China, US, and UK.
Dr. Berninger …
Economic Depression – Total Devastation unavoidable
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amOcenOhxGo&feature=sub
OMG .. I don’t know how many times he’s predicted this, but he has to be right once I suppose !
The US is using the taiwan arms deal to pressure China into sanctions against Iran. This is likely to backfire on the US as the chinese will see straight thru it!
@Grisu,…..The plan is to completely change the financial and social system beyond recognition, this of course needs some heavy impetus!
The objective is to get the people to beg for “help”,.same ole strategy, problem, reaction, solution,..works every time.
How does the song go:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJmBPCYt5LY
Anything on the warfront now is bad news for oil and for inflation expectations in the short term when oil goes to $150 again.
If there was any hope for any economical crises recovery at all one can be sure that higher oil prices will hamper that!
One of my books: How to make a chemical suit with cereal box’s and some sticky backed paper.
Price: One jar of mustard or relish : /
There will be no WW3.
The minute the US does anything stupid, China will dump its
dollars.Game over.
We can now all relax and watch the icelanders provide the model
for the rest of the world how to deal with the criminals.
Myabe even a better Question?
What is Beijing gonna do if the U.S. blocks Chinas supplies while the pay for this army themselves at their own demise?
Is the U.S. really gonna pull China into a war like they did with the Japanese, cutting of supplies by a blockade?
I also think like @Mother Earth that Tarpley nailed it again in describing what’s probably is going to happen if following their line of thought.
the Third and final World War envisions an attack on Iraq, Iran and/or Syria as being the trigger to set the entire Middle East into fiery conflagration. Once America is firmly entrenched into the Middle East with the majority of her first-line units, North Korea is to attack South Korea. Then, with America’s forces stretched well beyond the limit, China is to invade Taiwan. This will usher in the start of World War Three.
http://www.threeworldwars.com/world-war-3/ww3.htm
I’ve got all my “how to” books ready to sell!! : )
@MaxPower. the missles are not there to work but to provoke. fire em off make more. caching.
Of course from the start war has been the means by which the carrying capacity of the environment asserted itself. Agression developed because agressive individuals where better at providing for themselves where resources where scarce. Sadly the defended ego has been confused by things that don’t disappear or degrade like concepts and now the world is populated by superhuman entities that are as needy and agressive as individual human beings..Conceptual thought is ultimately selfdefeating..
US seems desparate to start a war. Fits in nicely with the eugenics agenda of the elite.
It only dawned upon me this weekend ( amongst others) that reduction in population is so important to the elite for complete control…too much population is unwieldly…especially when many of us have started asking questions and challening the top guys.. and becoming more aware..
High awareness is not beneficial for these guys..
I am guessing..china might be in on this too…
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US raises stakes in Gulf
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But not by very much, as this anti-missile system has plenty of operational and design flaws that have still not been ironed out after nearly 15 years of deployment.
If you read thru the propaganda, under good conditions its success rate is about 50%. Under less than ideal conditions, 25%. Maybe once a week (or fortnight) it might reach 80%, by random chance.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIM-104_Patriot
The U.S. Army claimed an initial success rate of 80% in Saudi Arabia and 50% in Israel. Those claims were eventually scaled back to 70% and 40%. However, when President George H. W. Bush traveled to Raytheon’s Patriot manufacturing plant in Andover, Massachusetts during the Gulf War, he declared, the “Patriot is 41 for 42: 42 Scuds engaged, 41 intercepted!”[16] The President’s claimed success rate was thus over 97% during the war.
@frances snoot
What this obsession with France after all ? Iran is not the biggest uranium producer in the world. We got plenty of the stuff in Canada. No need for a war. Yes there is need because France too has a nice racket of war profiteering like the USA. Nato/USA bankster and war mongers need a war.
Time to liquidate the inventory. Disgusting when you think that all the hyprocrits say nothing about the 400 nuclear bombs Isreal has. It’s not an invention. It’s a fact. I wouldn’t blame Iran wanting to get the bomb when you see what criminals like Tony Blair and Bush did to Irak. Iran is about 5 to 6 times Irak. What a bunch a murderous fools.
We have to find a substitute to oil. It’s killing us.
Question?
How long is Beijing gonna keep paying this sharade?
I mean no one can keep this “myth” alive in believing that you actually want to do something about your deficit and at the same time increase the war budget like Obama has done with or withtout Osama “The living dead zombie terrorist” which will be floating around forever since he was buried years ago.
@Max
what can stop the u.s. from not honoring their debt with the chinese? do you think that they may be considering it?
To add:
Review shows dramatic shift in Pentagon’s thinking
http://edition.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/02/01/us.pentagon.review/index.html
“The Pentagon will no longer shape the U.S. military to fight two major conventional wars at once, but rather prepare for numerous conflicts and not all in the same style, according to a draft of a new strategic outlook the Pentagon is announcing on Monday”
Iran is not Irak. Obama is one little sionist imperialist indeed. These policies are dictated by the sionist crazies in Tel Aviv. Sorry. But the Israel lobby is quite crazy if it thinks China will accept USA monopoly in the region. Specially that China is now the biggest oil client of Iran, but get this, as of last week of Saudi Arabia !
Its not about oil – this is far deeper and the roots of this go back to the attempted domination of the gulf by london dating back for decades! There is a determination to destroy a ancient culture which threatens the elite in the west!
There is nothing Iran can do to stop what is planned for them and furthermore the Iranians know that whatever thay do or say the Ameraican axis of warmongering is approaching. There will be massive public outcry like never seen before!
Has somebody a spare super tanker to lend me for free ?
And a couple of millions to buy some oil ?
GOT OIL Max ?
The best investments presently are Alberta oil and gas companies. No political risks. Dirt cheap and yummy yummy cash flow.
OK, War but Americans like war and the Pentagon does war in a very sustainable, quote “environmentally responsible way” thinking bout the “Envoronment” ROFL
So, Killing and Destroying CO2 Haox friendly is OK? But choppers burn a lot off fuel is commonly known so hardly can be taken seriously anymore if you had any doubts that this was the work of the cunning propaganda machine of the ministry of love.
“But as the Pentagon looks to its new planning for future conflicts, the report also says it can be done in an environmentally responsible way by using more solar power, biofuels and overall energy independence as well as pointing out that the Department of Defense, “provides environmental stewardship” at hundreds of bases around the country.”
From: Review shows dramatic shift in Pentagon’s thinking http://tinyurl.com/yagskas
By the way. Buy oil stocks. 300$ barrel almost certain if this conflict erupts and is settled with bombs. 300$ to 400$ even.
If the US can destabilize the mid-east the oil supply to China becomes compromized and that might ultimately lead to China’s desintegration. This doesn’t spell good fortune for Holland, with a large turkish population that is clearly not on the US side, and a history of aiding the US (according to Blair motivated by US involvement in Bosnia).
This Tarpley type scenario makes a lot of sense for the US, because they can either use their still considerable force and secure a nice future of picking though the rubble of other countries, or join the menu in the roadkill restaurant.. Collateral damage doesn’t seem to interest the US in any way so the rest of the world better stop this or hold on to their seat.
Paulsons assertion is devious because it is bound to be used to suggest a adverserial alliance between Russia and China (allthought the BRIC have been clear in their position). To defuse the situation its urgent for China to demolish US dependency of financial firms, but that is hampered by the infiltration of US bank interest serving banks handling trades for China. So it is possible China remains paralized regarding the financial timebomb but has to act militarily to avoid someone cutting its oxygen.
My guess is that the result will be decivlilisation, this is the ultimat goal of man’s unconsious actions..
As usual. It’s about the OIL. Iran will be the beginning ot the third world war. Anyways there is real good chance for it.
Not a good idea with all these US treasuries bonds in the hands of Chineese. That’s what so beautiful with these treasuries. China hasn’t the need to fire one rocket or one nuclear bomb on the USA.
Last year commerce between Iran and China increased 40%. China has just to unload a couple of US treasuries on the market and the USA is screwed big time. They won’t probably do it. But hey who knows ? If China and Rusia intend giving to USA the control of the whole region, they are quite dumb. I expect that Iran wil probably be bomded by Israel with a nuclear. Yeah Israel is that crazy in 2010.
Ya intricately guided missile is probably made by
ti same Co. that makes those bomb detection devices
Dousing
ROFL
Hic
@Snoot. thanks for reminding me.
ronron:
The catalyst for Bretton Woods #1 was a nuclear bomb.
better link:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/13/world/middleeast/13iran.html
Iran was willing to compromise:
http://www.zawya.com/Story.cfm/sidZW20091212000097/%3D%20WSJ:%20Iran%20Offers%20To%20Swap%20Uranium%20In%20Small%20Batches,%20On%20Kish%20Island/
@ Max K


Got Gold ?
I am not the closest to Iran
Hic
And didja see me post on a JDAM gone wrong after the target was painted by 2 lazers by the ground force
The JDAM landed on 17 or 18 Green Beret
All those movies with Bruce Willis John Mcclane
Dont work in real life
USA has one policy Get ya peeps as far from ta action and carpet bomb the whole freakin area to Kingdom dot com wikepedia false entry
hic
Would hate to see a stray nuke from iether side
Hic
Why was Cheney so worried about the pentagon attack
Ya flying a remote controlled aircraft into a pentagon shaped building using black and white cameras so they painted one side of ta P grass white
Hic
@Snoot good morning. gonna be a wild week.
France is interested in Iranian uranium:
“Earlier, Mrs Clinton met French President Nicolas Sarkozy, who told foreign ambassadors in Paris last week it was time to ”draw consequences from months of efforts in vain” to reach out to Iran diplomatically. ”Work on Iran is progressing with great intensity,” she said.
”France’s leadership is greatly appreciated. The international community is united on Iran.”
Three sets of UN sanctions have failed to halt Iran’s uranium enrichment.”
http://www.smh.com.au/world/france-and-us-press-for-tougher-sanctions-over-iranian-nuclear-program-20100130-n5gq.html
Just some musings…
- Iran hasn’t instigated an invasion of another country in circa 300 years.
- If Iran is attacked, the price of oil will skyrocket, the dollar as a result will get a massive lift in the short term. But what’s that gonna happen to the global economy?
-A invasion of Iran would cause serious geopolitical compromises for China and Russia. These countries on in a military alliance – with nuclear capality.
- France and Germany have oil interests in Iran – what would the EU’s response be?
- I don’t think Iran will be attacked directly – the nuclear deterent of China and Russia seems to be an issue. I think the US is attempting to co-op Iran against Russia and China. Israel is a wild card.
what a mess…. very very complicated
@MaxKeiser. yes got gold. don’t like this latest military move.
Bluster, try to bate China & boast the $……..Just laugh @ them………..Nixon tried this Vietham…….China called his bluff……….they will again.
Max is Stacy Bubble wrapped for me?
Mike
Wonderfools
If they can’t whack us with the poisoned vaccines, they’ll get us with some cobalt clouds and nuclear plumes.
Got GOLD?
Nooooooooooooo not WW#