Banks’ $10 billion problem and Obama’s ‘don’t go to Vegas’

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142 Responses to Banks’ $10 billion problem and Obama’s ‘don’t go to Vegas’

  1. Las Vegas has no future.

    Obama says something both accurate and unpopular, and the news gossips pounce. So Obama is supposed to save us while maintaining popularity at the same time? Goodluck appeasing the haters Mr President.

  2. The Underfundedmentalist

    Obama should have given this lecture to the bailed-out,
    not the bailers.

  3. The Underfundedmentalist

    Vegas is for bankers,
    you silly peasants.

  4. …and what happened to all the buzz about Inflation/Deflation? I don’t remember anyone declaring victory just Max and Stacy declaring conspiracy.

    …and why is the dollar rallying? The anti-US dollar cheerleaders (Max and Stacy, Peter Schiff, and more) can’t wait to celebrate every downtick but have nothing to say when it goes up.

    …and hows Pirate My Movie doin? Got sidetracked by the Max and Stacy money gossip shows taking over RT and PressTV?

    …and thanks to Max and Stacy, I enjoy your work and find it informative, entertaining and one sided. You two should get on The Amazing Race so everyone can enjoy your traveling problems.

  5. yes Karl Denninger had a great ticker guy discussion on the 1st feb about this. basically they crash the market and then offer a TBond retirement annuity and herd the sheeple into it through fear. id say he will probably be proved right.

  6. Phil /Germany

    Unexplained explosion on the Sun 1.2.2010
    http://www.spaceweather.com/images2010/01feb10/cme_c3_big.gif?PHPSESSID=fqgka4041odrkcf2r8esa56g41

    Footage of Todays Meteorite Over Ireland -1st Video – happened at 6pm

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sE8-BvSgTJk

    Fireball seen!

    …I’ve just seen a nice mag -4/-5 fireball from my seat in the office, looking out the window. Yellow/orange, with breakups along the path, each broken part with its own glowing trail. No more than a half-degree seperation in total.
    The trail was behind the cloud layers….

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055818092

  7. Phil /Germany

    Egyptian sources: Israel prepares to strike Iran from Gulf and N. Iraq
    http://www.debka.com/article/8580/

  8. @Y’All

    The Specials – The Man At C & A.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRPYny5Xzng

    The man in black he told me the latest Moscow news about the storm across the red sea
    They drove their ball point views

    I’m the man in grey, I’m just the man at C & A
    And I don’t have a say in the war games that they play

    Warning, warning, nuclear attack
    Shark attack to hit you on your back
    World war three

    The Mickey Mouse badge told the Ayatollah at his feet
    You drink your oil you schmuck, we’ll eat our heads of wheat

    I’m the man in grey, I’m just the man at C & A
    And I don’t have a say in the war games that they play

    Boom shakalaka boom
    Nuclear nuclear, nuclear war
    Warning, warning, nuclear attack
    The boom never ban
    Shark attack

  9. Don’t get it about Obanana ? Obanana is a brownshirt. Don’t know what a BROWNSHIRT is ? Look in the dictionnary or wikipedia. Brownie Gordon too is BROWNSHIRT.

    http://bungalowbillscw.blogspot.com/2010/01/would-you-wear-taser-bracelet-to-get-on.html

    So ? Ready for your taser collars at airport you Americain pieces of Walt Street cattle ? I would it to be a story by a bunch of sick paranos. But Obanana is really a godamn nazi.

  10. Don’t do business with USA and Government Sachs either.

  11. Las Vegas is small potatoes compared to BlackRock Group 4 trillion dollars gamble. In reality Las Vegas compared to Wall Street is like a Virgin. Llke a Virgin ! Prostitution is legalized in Las Vegas. Las Vegas are much more cleaner than God’s envoy Lloyd Blankfien by the way. And they are much more fun. Try to have an orgasm looking at Lloyd Blankfien. Impossible.

  12. This just out if you haven’t seen it already Colbert interviews Spitzer…great interview.

    http://www.colbertnation.com/home

  13. Hi Max and Stacy…any chance you can also interview Eliot Spitzer for future shows?

  14. P/G. nice. inevatable i guess. too bad. :-(

  15. @MA. 4 billion in the peeps pensions. you watch.

  16. sorry trillion

  17. Italian pizza. This is clearly an oxymoron. It goes real well with Obama.

  18. small fall guy?

  19. Hey roron vous êtes excused. Trillion. That’s peanuts. I want to see quadrillions.

  20. The Underfundedmentalist

    Obama to Nation:
    ‘Don’t gamble with your life savings,
    let the bankers do it for you!’

  21. frances snoot

    @Marc:
    Sorry! I linked the wrong article: here’s the pizza one

    http://www.punditandpundette.com/2009/04/obamas-pizza-party.html

  22. what if vegas comes to you in the form of wall street banks?

  23. nieve peeps moving there bank accounts and not knowing where there pension is. this will not end well.

  24. frances snoot

    Are we all suddenly Presbyterians?

    http://www.pcusa.org/101/101-gambling.htm

    Gambling is a game. It’s rotten when you do it with other people’s money, but it is not inherently evil anymore than playing with words in inherently evil.

  25. @Snoot. gambling causes pain in family’s. same as booze and cigarettes.

  26. frances snoot

    ronron:

    Obsession is the problem combined with addiction: gambling doesn’t lead to obsession. There are underlying problems that make people alcoholics or gambling addicts. Cigarettes are horrid: but are we going to outlaw them?

    Are we suddenly puritanical? The ills of men (and women) find their way to be known through readily available channels: prohibition doesn’t work.

    Obama is an example of the kind of hypocrisy prohibition entitles.

  27. something for nothing. learn how to cook, don’t shower long and not everyday. you can’t afford to drink or smoke like fuck. quit driving around. brush your teeth twice a day. bye y’all

  28. @Snoot. old saying. everything in moderation. i want all unproductive laws gone. very few jails in keiserville. :-)

  29. wouldn’t want a casino in keiserville.

  30. frances snoot

    @ronron:
    There’s always hot chicks around a casino. You might prefer that to hanging out at the library with Stella.

  31. @Snoot. gambling was more fun and less harmfull when it was ilegal

  32. stella is fine with me. :-)

  33. frances snoot

    She’s probably make you do a long book report on a long book like Ivan I-vanna-itch. You’d need a good thesis and grammar and footnotes and stuff.

    You’d have more fun at the casino with Bonn.

  34. just noticed. i look like obama in that smiley face. :-) :-) :-)

  35. @Snoot. i can feel it. i’m back on top.

  36. i feel like van morrison.

  37. frances snoot

    Cool, ronron

  38. thank you guys for being there for me. bye y’all

  39. The Underfundedmentalist

    @rr
    as long as the casino and the bank are not one in the same,
    both will be needed in keiserville. I’m more interested in who will own the bank, not the casino. Can’t we collectively own both, or is that just to communal for you guys. Now that snoot mentions it, will we have a public library in keiserville?, seems the no tax crowd might say ‘not in my backyard’. How ’bout the schools? public or private education for keiserville?

  40. frances snoot

    Stacy:
    The commercial over at the right defines the terrorists in terms of the NPT treaty. If neglects to mention that those who are party to the privilege of the treaty have been the real terrorists for the last eighty years, and backwards.

    Are we now to be ‘frightened’ by the likened threat of terrorism against the ilk of Obama and Sarkozy: are they the good guys?

    HAHAHAHAHA

    Kissinger? Please, Kissinger?

    Are we pulling for the winning team, Stacy? Will the world be ‘safe’?

    Kissinger spoke of this time when he indicated that control of resource would equal control of men.

    Kissinger is the author of genocide with Madeline Albright and Bill Clinton.

    They will not bring us peace and safety. That movie is a bust before it even shows its painted face: harlot.

  41. Conspiracy Theory Bears -Is Gov’t the only major buyer in the stock market? You bet they are!

    http://www.cnbc.com/id/15840232?play=1&video=1403871403

  42. @Underfunded. snoot will be in charge of all the books. the library will be the school. gambling? you’ll be to busy watering the pot. :-)

  43. The Underfundedmentalist

    @ rr
    that sounds like the best bet yet!

  44. frances snoot

    @Underfunded:
    I’ve got the books: just give me a basement of red wine and I’ll stay.

  45. China puts spyware in free thumb drive giveaways http://bit.ly/awIl4z. At your next convention, take the canoli, leave the drive.

  46. Goldman testifies on Volcker Rule Thursday. Here’s what they will NOT tell you http://bit.ly/653a5l

  47. Many in Haiti turning away from voodoo toward Christianity http://bit.ly/arWiI3.

  48. The Underfundedmentalist

    @snoot
    reading, writting, and red wine
    a great combo for higher learning,
    The Keiserville Public House/Library.
    Now even I would vote for that.

  49. no dubies?

  50. frances snoot

    Three cheers for Keiservilled

    PippPippPipperoo Cheerio! and all that sort!

  51. The True State of the Union: We Have No Rights Whatsoever

  52. frances snoot

    (ronron: who’s the police at KV? I’d not mention dubies)

  53. frances snoot

    @DanValley:
    You’d make a good sheriff for Keiserville. Whatdoya say?

  54. The Underfundedmentalist

    Guess Hunter Thompson can’t be sheriff, so how about it dan V?

  55. @Snoot. dan will do. i’ll train him. oh and sorry no cars in town.

  56. The Underfundedmentalist

    @rr
    the constitution was written on hemp paper,
    a fact I picked up at the Kesierville Public House and ‘Lit’erary Center.

  57. i guess it’s a done deal. from small things baby big things one day come.

  58. frances snoot

    Well, MotherEarth would approve the no car ruling. MotherEarth is leaving off traveling as the chicken-man-show and is now finished his divinity training to lead Keiserville in our humble admonitions to respect each other and the earth.

    http://cdn.costumesupercenter.com/csc_inc/images/items/343×432/FW5419.jpg

    Will that outfit do, ronron? I think it suits his stylish and assertive rhetoric.

  59. guess the skinny fucker will be our embassy in india. he’s hugging down over there. we’ll need him in foreign policy. probably need 2 livers.

  60. just like a women they do it everytime. buy em a diamond ring give em money on the side. no matter what you do, they ain’t never satisfied. :-)

  61. The Underfundedmentalist

    if we add a casino to the public house library,
    bonn will subzidize this whole venture,
    and yes ronron there can be a smoking section too

  62. one thing for sure. snoot will have the most educated students.

  63. one liver for bonn and one for me. hahaha :-)

  64. oh. and only one yelling match a week. then red wine.

  65. frances snoot

    oh. and only one yelling match a week. then red wine.

    :(

  66. @snoot. present company accepted.

  67. government and all that. few perks for the big kids. chin up girl. rules are made to be broken. :-)

  68. Mike/Liverpool

    Ron
    Off to bed, but please remember its “QE” day @ the Bank of England tomorrow………….will they print or try their hand at Bond markets?

    Mike

  69. The Underfundedmentalist

    once a week?
    Debate class will be held everyday at the Keiserville Public House Library.
    And twice on sunday!

  70. @M/L. tough call buddy tough call. nighty night.

  71. @Snoot. present company excluded. haha . stupid ronron

  72. The Underfundedmentalist

    @ronron
    you been skippin’ class?

  73. @Underfuded. you the guy that lives beside the park where the big boys have the fire and shit?

  74. The Underfundedmentalist

    @ronron
    Watch out or I’ll send the truant officer after you!

  75. The Underfundedmentalist

    @rr
    you mean boho grove?

  76. @Underfunded. bunch of us 50′s fucks never went to high school. good jobs then. we lied about our age. working at 15 making more than your dad. no shit. haha funny now.

  77. NICE. @Underfunded.

  78. when i was a kid there were frogs everywhere. none now. fuck.

  79. brought the money home for your mom and little brothers. the late 60′s and early 70′s.

  80. The Underfundedmentalist

    @rr
    You have obviously learned more in your curtailed education than most kids do in college these days. K-8 in Canada in the fifties is as good as a masters degree today. I hereby grant you an honorary degree in humanities on behalf of the Keiserville Institute of Anthropology.

  81. California Doctor

    @PHIL/GERMANY- Unexplained explosion on sun 1.2.2010

    Phil,
    Thanks for posting that link to spaceweather.
    When I saw the video on your link, I recognized the event as a “Coronal Mass Ejection” event. These events can be rather damaging to terrestial electrical equipment, if the CME is in a Earthward direction. The web page today reads:

    “CME was observed off the northeast limb at about 03/0500Z and was associated with a B1 long duration X-ray event between 0450-0700Z. A second CME that appears earthward directed was observed on both Stereo A and B. There are two coronal holes visible on the disk.”

    The coronal holes are observed to be associated with the ejection event. The holes rotate into visible range as the sun rotates.

    You can also check here:
    http://www.crystalinks.com/cme1859.html

    That’s a “Coronal Mass Ejection” event.
    The solar activity is picking up.
    CME was discussed on this board a few months ago, ironically, when some people were discussing one of the first observations of EMRF interference on telegraphy and early electrical transmission lines. Check wikipedia for CME or Coronal Mass Ejection. It will explain it.

    The odd thing is that the http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/forecast.html website does not show much increase probability until the

  82. my 2 big brothers and one sister did the same for me. fucking lucky i am. lost big brother mike. broke my heart.

  83. sorry about all that nonsense

  84. The Underfundedmentalist

    @rr
    Life is nothing to apologize for.
    paz mi amigo
    gotta run
    btw, it’s spelt ‘doobies’
    you know, like god’s other gift to mankind,
    thank god i’m mammilian!

  85. California Doctor

    @ronron – nothing to apologize about…
    god bless. :)

  86. “In the Realm of Hungry Ghosts”: Dr. Gabor Maté, Physician at Vancouver Safe-Injection Site, on the Biological and Socio-Economic Roots of Addiction and ADD

    Or why the GOP is wrong about everything and the DEMs are not far behind

    http://www.democracynow.org/2010/2/3/addiction

  87. The Underfundedmentalist

    Anyone read ‘The Wrecking Crew’?
    Thomas Franks expose of corporate lobbying and it’s corruption of both parties.

  88. underfund, I believe the “company “has run the usa for quite a while now. The presidents and congress people are just thier puppets. Sad but true.

    Whats sad is so many people believed that we had a republic or democracy. The usa has been a slave state to the corporations/industrialists for a century at least.

  89. @Snoot….I love creative problem solving….I accept the post of sheriff without a gun.

  90. The Underfundedmentalist

    @jon
    i know, this republic was born out of war debt, stolen land, and slavery.
    Freedom, as always, is cast in the minds of free thinking people who dare to be ostricized by their peers, more and more people are realizing that the truth has no relation to the labels we have been given to understand our world.
    @dan
    i’ll second the motion to make ye sheriff,
    if you consider deputizin’ me,
    but we outta ask the mayor 1st,
    frank hope you out there?

  91. The Underfundedmentalist

    Figure I better come clean before my deputizin’ hearings begin.

    I only smoke when I drink,
    I only drink when I’m pissed-off
    and I’m only pissed-off when I’m awake.

  92. @ Underfunded – I still need to pick that book up. Pretty sure I already know the gist of it, but want to read it nonetheless. Scahill’s book on Blackwater is next on my reading list . .. after I get through the 700-pager that I’m reading now (re-reading some Howard Zinn).

  93. @ Stacy – Munchies? Hope you found some food.

  94. State Farm revokes insurance policies of Florida homeowners:

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35220269/ns/business-personal_finance/

    A spokesman for State Farm said the decision was the direct result of its failure to win a 47.1 percent rate increase from state regulators.

    Dicks.

  95. The Underfundedmentalist

    @mep
    frank is a great read, gen x cynic extraordinaire, even if a bit naieve,
    damn i just heard they are gonna blame terroism on pot-cookies!
    wtf, the dude claims he ate a pot cookie and went beserk?
    gotta check this out

  96. The Underfundedmentalist

    Damn lightweight gonna ruin it for everyone,
    http://www.startribune.com/nation/83448387.html?elr=KArks
    funny how this ‘terrorist’ got his message across?
    Stagecraft or Betty Crockpot?
    Is this to derail the fact that we’re going to tax the pot here in cali come march,
    or that we will be voting for legal recreational use come november?

  97. The Underfundedmentalist

    101st airborn in action
    Go joe mandak
    http://www.modbee.com/state/story/1033855.html

  98. Oh, so we lost 824k more jobs than we thought http://bit.ly/cKk6aB in 2009 but it’s OK now? Aren’t those people still out of work?

  99. @Underfunded……just keep your eye on the watch…..your getting sleepy…..sleepy…. you are hereby deputized.

  100. 824.000 more jobs lost is less than analysts expected!
    So that positive, right?
    Buy, buy, buy!

  101. The Underfundedmentalist

    @ Big Dan Valley, Thank you for your support!
    Help me choose my acceptance speech,
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLgHMZPjlNs&NR=1

    @ jobs?
    Just rememeber,
    this is one small step for the jobless man,
    and one giant leap for a homeless mankind.

  102. @Y’All
    dale… fucking… winton… ads featuring DALE WINTON!!!!!!!! OMG, what’s that an ad about nu-clear weapons and … what a mess… what a total BLOODY MESS and WTF’s all this pathetic self referential humour about… DAMN, just drunks and medicated idiots that wanna live out some DISNEY WORLD fantasy with their SAD OLD ughh ……….. huh….. what I wouldn’t give for a broken bottle right now!!!!

  103. Bankers…the Merchants of Menace

  104. Former Bank Of Broadway Exec Member Of The Mob? http://bit.ly/bTAetx

  105. Barney Frank Not Too Excited About Volcker Proposal http://bit.ly/aadMZ5

  106. Goldman Management Not Worried About Anyone Leaving Them http://bit.ly/cuKPyl

  107. Eliot Spitzer: It’s Nice to Be Able to Stick It To Whomever You Want http://bit.ly/dpGgVL

  108. @Y’All
    I think we need some kind of SITE intevention for these BITTER INTERNET IDIOTS… that are so infected with FEAR they have become too paranoid to get out the HOUSE EVER!!!

  109. Sort of a funny read: US Intelligence Report Classifies Venezuela as “Anti-US Leader” . . . funny when you read the snippets from the intelligence report, which smack of absolute hypocrisy.

  110. @ dan valley – It’s Nice to Be Able to Stick It To Whomever You Want

    Oh my, what a poor choice of words by Eliot Spitzer!

  111. Y’all should read the national threat assessment:

    http://www.dni.gov/testimonies/20100202_testimony.pdf

    Cybersecurity is mentioned first.

  112. @Mep,..Yep Mep, it’s all part of the warfare strategy
    “Countering adversary propaganda, misinformation,
    disinformation, and opposing information to correctly
    portray friendly intent and actions, while denying others
    the ability to polarize public opinion and affect the political
    will of the United States and its multinational partners
    within an operational area.”
    http://www.iwar.org.uk/psyops/resources/doctrine/psyop-jp-3-53.pdf
    Don’t for one second think that to sway public opinion is a mute point,..ask the likes of Mr Lennon.
    The pulse of any nation is continually monitored, any threat to it’s survival will be quashed immediately.

  113. Aaaaweee screw it me haitus is over again
    WTF with those meteorites
    Nibiru Commin ta say Hi ya jerks take a look at tis
    How da ya like em apples Mushroom clouds
    Hic ;-)

  114. ROFL
    They increasing ta price of Petrol here
    :-(

  115. ……..
    O ))…
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    @ o o 0 o o o o o .

  116. @Bonn,…Quite the IQ test,.hmm : )
    I pick “B”

  117. @Mep….poor choice of words or just being honest?

  118. @ dan – Both!!!!

    @ all – Google has partnered with the NSA to work on cybersecurity!!

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/02/03/AR2010020304057.html?hpid=topnews

    The article makes it sounds like it’s the NSA that will be doing Google a favor by helping them look into the Google attack in China:

    Under an agreement that is still being finalized, the National Security Agency would help Google analyze a major corporate espionage attack that the firm said originated in China and targeted its computer networks, according to cybersecurity experts familiar with the matter. The objective is to better defend Google — and its users — from future attack.

    . . . but I’m reminded of how the drone surveillance was sold to the public in the UK, and of how the Patriot Act was sold to the American public. This can’t be good.

  119. worrying to see the increased US military involvement in Colombia. There are no shortage of Contra-type supporters amongst the Venezuelan economic elites. If the USdoes launch some sort of secret war to destabilise Chavez & the economy, no doubt the likes of Dennis Blair will then tell us all how Chavez and his ‘populist socialist regime’ have destroyed the Venezuelan economy. Hell, it worked (for a while) in Nicaragua in the 80s, when the Sandanistas had to dedicate 50% or so of GDP to battle those Contra scumbags.

  120. @ BondiBhoy – Well, we’ve got pending interests in Colombia as well as our current ones. Obama is looking to make a free trade deal with Colombia

    Nevermind that during the campaign, he won his progressive base over by opposing it

  121. @ = Sun
    @ = Sun’s sister
    Hic ;-)

  122. Or wife ROFL
    Hic ;-)

  123. @ @
    – = drunk bonn!!
    \——/

  124. Is having too many chartered banks a Casino?

    In America there probably are hundreds of good arguments for this being the case.

    Canada has only 21 major banks, and most operate in all the provinces.

    Here is the maths on how many banks the US would need if it had the same ratio of them to the population as Canada does…

    21 {banks} / 32 millions = x {banks} / 305 millions

    (21 * 305) / 32 = 200 chartered banks.

    200/305 = 1 {bank} per 656,250 persons or about 255,769 households.

    Case closed.

  125. Phil /Germany

    San Bernardino Ca Auto Dealership Report

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTHlMYjD4pg&feature=sub

  126. With internet gambling and place like Macao opening, Las Vegas will soon be history.

  127. Max Keiser is now getting ads hahaha for E-Trade nonetheless. Hillarious.

  128. Mike2liverpool

    BOE stops QE @ £200 Billion, hold rates @ 0.5%
    Mike

  129. Ha ha. Positive thinker/motivational guru, James Ray, (and yes, he was mentioned in the book, “The Secret”, and is a defender of “The Secret”) has been found guilty of murder. He told people who were throwing up, feeling sick, and watching others pass out at one of his sweat lodge cult gatherings not to leave . . . told them it was mind over matter. Positive thoughts, you know! Guess Ray’s days of helping others create harmonic wealth (or rather, creating it for himself) are behind him now.

  130. Everything is crashing this morning. SPAIN and PORTUGAL bonds are really crashing this mornng. General strike in Greece.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aMt1e_.q_sOU&pos=1

  131. @Mep
    The secret of positive thinking is too kill with a smile like politiciains and banksters.

  132. Erlingur Þorsteinsson

    You are correct, concerning financial terrorists. This is a crime.

  133. @Mep

    The biggest national threat to the USA is his ruling class. The enemy of the US ? Want some names ? Geithner, Paulson etc…….. These bastards like to invent enemies. Chavez is no threat to the USA. He is a menace to Venezuala like ALL ruling classes. But hey. You have to invent enemies. No gun orders without a foreign enemy. Just wondet these USA Washington assholes will invent when they will conquered the world. National threat by the Martians and the plutonian people. Dirt bags entertaining the eternal paranoia to screw the taxpayers. Still waithing for a exploding stomach filled with bombs to sell the new generation of totall organ scanners. Obanana bought a lot of shares in it. The enemy is in Washington and Wall Street.

  134. @Calif. Dr. & Phil/Germany

    Thanks for the Space Weather and CME info. While its true that CME’s can be hazardous, esp to communication systems, As an astronomer, I’d be worried if we WEREN’T seeing some of them now. We are coming out of one of the lowest lows in the solar cycle and are now overdue for some action in the Sun for the next few years. (more sunspots aurorae, etc.)

  135. @Calif. Dr. & Phil/Germany

    Thanks for the Space Weather and CME info. While its true that CME’s can be hazardous, esp to communication systems, As an astronomer, I’d be worried if we WEREN’T seeing some of them now. We are coming out of one of the lowest lows in the solar cycle and are now overdue for some action in the Sun for the next few years. (more sunspots aurorae, etc.)

  136. @Y’All
    I like wine with cruotons
    sez , Roger Scruton!!!

    Muslim fundamentalists should ‘drink wine to learn tolerance’
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/religion/7147651/Muslim-fundamentalists-should-drink-wine-to-learn-tolerance.html

  137. @SG
    Muslims fundementalists from the Mossad ? from the CIA ? or from the MI5 ?
    Has nothing to with alcool. They have hashish and opium to replace it.