Fire Department Jibber Jabber

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  1. Someone else’s comments from somewhere else — but they fit in nicely :

    @Moor Larkin

    You definetely have a point about the financial implications of the war(s). But I don’t think that the present financial collapse has anything to do with war spending. These collapses have been a long time coming. I got my hands on some interesting stats the other day.

    In 1952 the US financial institutions were valued at approximately 400% of GDP (seems like a lot, but having lots of cash to invest sloshing around is the norm). This stayed pretty stable through the US’s “Golden Era” (1950ish – 1970ish). By 1982 it was approximately 420% of GDP.

    Now fast-forward through the crazy 80s and the loony 90s – in 2007 it was approximately 1100% of GDP!!! That’s a near threefold increase.

    All the while the profit-rate for non-financial companies has been in decline. In 2006 it reached its second lowest point in the post-war years, 5.5% or so (the lowest point was after the dot-com crash when it dropped to just under 4%).

    Capital investment in the non-financial sector has also bombed. It was at about 6% (% of GDP) in 2007 – its lowest point since 1960 (the post-war period of reconstruction was a shaky period for capital investment – the difference being that profits back then were rising).

    Finally consider the fact that real wages in the US have stagnated since around 1979. So non-financial companies are getting cheaper labour than they were in the “Golden Era” but there profits are… down?

    I think that these trends account for the increased investment in finance. There’s less money to be made in non-financial investment. The financial meltdown seems to have been a structural problem.

    Although war-spending is undoubtadly going to speed-up the crash of the US empire, this crash was inevitable. How is this connected to the Soviet experience in Afghanistan and the Union’s collapse? Frankly, I think history is just having a bit of a joke with us…

  2. Eh me forgetta… on a bun wit dey sesame seeds. now dats Italian corporista style!

  3. Eh Guiseppe? Why you a so sad? Itsa not da first time eh big a corporation wrap it a self in a Italia’s flag, no? Me a wonder why dey not a call it a McMussolini? Dey should da used a big chic-ken nugget shapa lika boot wit dey sauce a pomodoro and thik slica dey american cheese, no?

  4. Aspadistra at Ashdown Forest

    (typo fix 2)

    “You can say absolutely nothing of value in America, providing it has no effect whatsoever.”

  5. Aspadistra at Ashdown Forest

    (typo fix)

    =============
    Media Disinformation in America
    You Can Say Anything You Want — As Long As It Doesn’t Have Any Effect

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=17457
    =============
    “In America You Can Say Anything You Want — As Long As It Doesn’t Have Any Effect.”
    - Paul Goodman
    =============

    The fella has it wrong:

    Correction to the quote should be:
    “You can say absolutely nothing of value in American, as long as it has no effect”

  6. Aspadistra at Ashdown Forest

    McDs across the Eurozone:

    http://www.mcdonalds.gr/
    http://www.mcdonalds.it/

    == same overall design ==
    http://www.mcdonalds.fr/
    http://www.mcdonalds.es/
    == end ==

    http://www.mcdonalds.de/
    http://www.mcdonalds.ie/

    In the UK I am amazed they have no Curries, like in India.
    http://www.mcdonalds.co.uk/

    The row:
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/8503430.stm

    Italy has got its teeth stuck into an almighty row over a burger. It’s the new McDonald’s burger called the McItaly.

    Some food critics have described it as a betrayal of Italy’s culinary traditions, as it’s being promoted by the government as the new face of Italian cooking.

    But the agriculture minister, who has endorsed the burger, says they are ‘ignorant Stalinists’ who should be proud of this food made from all-Italian ingredients.

  7. California Doctor

    @Phil / Germany – Third party in the USA.

    Third party efforts in the USA have not been successful in the past due to the role that 3rd parties can play in the Presidential campaigns.

    For one thing, the corporate infrastructure and organization necessary to hold a 3rd party campaign is extremely difficult to build. The two major parties have essentially limited the other small parties from holding offices by their regulatory rules.

    Secondly, the third party candidate usually ends up taking a fraction of votes from the two major parties. In the election of 2000, the presence of the Green Party candidate Ralph Nader likely changed America’s history by taking sufficient votes from Al Gore to cost him the clear victory. Many conservative Republicans threw money at Ralph Nader in order to have him stay in the race. The GOP knew that running Nader and keeping him in the campaign would take more votes from Gore than Bush. A similar thing occurred when Ross Perot ran against George Bush and Bill Clinton in 1992. This opened the door for Clinton to win in 1992.

    The situation today is different and likely more analogous to the Bull Moose candidacy of Teddy Roosevelt. The two parties are more likely to shift their messaging to contain the loss of voters.

    The Tea Party movement which is currently receiving alot of MSM attention in the United States is not an independent movement. The movement is started by strongly Republican organizers, money, and infrastructure. It is an attempt to recapture the people who left the Republican Party over the last 3 years. As the economic crisis worsened and the true colors of the Bush Family became more apparent, the GOP lost millions of supporters.

    Some of these people have gathered under the “Tea Party” tent.

  8. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

    McDick’s has made a McITALY BURGER!!!!
    This is fucking STUPID!!!!
    Considering wherever I went, I’d see billboards spray painted “McMerda”…
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/8503430.stm

  9. The Underfundedmentalist

    @casper
    well put
    LA is a typical commercial fed spear-carrier, all about freedom,
    as long as it promotes their belief system.

  10. @LA..

    Leave our Stacy alone, shithead. You don’t like it around here then piss off mate. Go do Freeper shit at some Freeper site. You don’t like us .. go to hell. Take your feelings and go. Don’t go away mad. Just go away.

  11. If safety personel charge money for services, they probably can be sued much easier for disastisfactory service. Afterall, if some free do gooder fire dept can’t save Fido and your house, you focus on your grief, but when some corporate fire for profit company sends you the bill, you put your grief into anger and lawyers and sue them for shoddy work and not doing enough or doing it wrong.

    Although, arsonists would be able to hurt someone twice, first the burn, then the bill, maybe thats the plan afterall.

  12. Cmon Max and Stacy The Musical! Or else turn it into a reality Internet show where we all do these discussions via webcam! Then it wont be banned!

  13. Aspadistra at Ahsdown Forest

    =========
    “In America You Can Say Anything You Want — As Long As It Doesn’t Have Any Effect.”
    – Paul Goodman
    =========

    Again, the fella has it all wrong.

    In the USA you are limited to saying absolutely nothing, and what you do say cannot have any effect…

  14. ============
    When it comes to the Canadian border, American Imperialists can be such fools.

    1. Cross over at a land crossing nearer to where you live. There are some really deserted crossings in Manitoba.

    2. In his case, the excuse one should use is wildlife photography in the national parks.

    3. Take the train to Calgary, and a bus to Kamloops or Kewlona.
    ============

    Anti-Olympic reporter denied entry into Canada

    http://www.ctvbc.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20100207/bc_protestor_detained_100207/20100207?hub=BritishColumbia

    A Chicago-based independent journalist says he was detained and questioned at the Vancouver airport on Saturday afternoon, denied a phone call or legal counsel and sent unceremoniously back to the U.S.

    Martin Macias Jr. arrived at YVR at around 11:30 a.m. with his travelling partner Bob Quellos. Both are outspoken Olympic critics associated with No Games Chicago, a group that opposed the city’s bid for the 2016 Summer Olympics.

    The two were planning to meet up with local anti-Olympic crusader Chris Shaw and attend a number of Vancouver rallies and protests this week leading up to the start of the Games.

    Macias never made it out of the airport.

    Instead, the 20-year-old part-time reporter says he spent two and a half hours being interviewed by customs about his fellow protesters.

    “They wanted to know more about the people who are organizing the conference, about who I was staying with, if I could contact them, if I knew what they were wearing,” Macias said. “It was very, very strange.”

    Macias said his phone book was confiscated and inspected. One local Vancouver number, listed under “Support,” was of particular interest.

    “It is a number to the conference in case you’re in the city, you need food, or you get questioned by police,” Macias said. “They took that as a sign that I was coming here with the intention of getting into some kind of violent rally or protest.”

    Macias said he was accused of withholding information and given a choice: leave Canada voluntarily or be detained until he faced trial.

    “It would be a week and a half,” Macias said. “I have work, school, my family. I can’t be here that long.”

    Authorities refused to pay for his ticket back to Chicago, Macias said, so he boarded a flight to Seattle instead.

    [...]

  15. If RBC knew Earl Jones was misappropriating funds, then that makes them COMPLICIT in his crimes…

    tsk tsk RBC…

  16. ==========
    Thank goodness neither Australia, nor NZ has required such a being to come into existence.

    I don’t know about Canada, but I assume it has mostly been spared of this, in spite of getting more than its full dose of American Imperialism.

    The American political prisoner
    http://www.martinarmstrong.org/economic_projections.htm
    talks about the breakdown of the rule of law, and maybe this is an outcome of that
    ==========

    Emergency Services Billing Corporation (ESBC) was incorporated in 2006 for the purpose of billing for paid and volunteer fire departments to recoup the expense caused by fire department dispatches to vehicular accidents.

    http://esbc.biz/index.php/about

    ESBC’s mission is to provide relief to local tax paying citizen’s of your district by returning money from parties involved in vehicular accidents, which are burdening your entire tax base when your tax base is not responsible for their negligence.

    Our People

    ESBC has a staff of experts that can deal with all of your needs. We have on our staff billing specialists, experts in the insurance industry, lawyers to draft ordinances and cover any possible collection problems, and accounting/financial specialists to keep your systems for billing in line and running efficiently. We provide a full range of services from the beginning through the full running of your billing program. Our goal as a company is to keep the money in the fire department and expedite the time periods to return this money.

    From the beginning we will help you by getting the foundation in place to bill and if necessary in your state even helping you draft an ordinance to authorize the billing levels that truly are representative of your costs.

    Experience

    ESBC’s founders have the following collective relative experience:

    - Over 75 years of insurance claims adjusting
    - Over 25 years in collections
    - Over 10 years as trial lawyers
    - Over 2 years as insurance defense attorneys

  17. Here is some Canadian economics news you need to pay attention to or make a headline:

    Ontario to partially guarantee Nortel pensions

    Only those who worked in the province stand to benefit

    The Ontario government is reassuring former Nortel employees who worked in the province that the first $1,000 of their monthly pension payments will be guaranteed under an emergency pension insurance fund.

    The government will pay into Ontario’s Pension Benefits Guarantee Fund to cover any future claims, said Finance Minister Dwight Duncan on Sunday. The fund insures the first $1,000 of an employee’s monthly pension in case the employer goes bankrupt.

    Nortel’s pension deficit was estimated to be between $2.5 billion and $2.8 billion when it filed for bankruptcy protection in January 2009.

    [...]

    Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/canada/ottawa/story/2010/02/07/ontario-nortel-pensions943.html

    //////////////////////

    RBC knew of Jones account oddity, memo shows

    The Royal Bank of Canada knew disgraced Montreal financial adviser Earl Jones was using his personal account for business and passing it off as an in-trust account, The Fifth Estate has learned.

    But the bank denies there were any indications that Jones was using his account inappropriately.

    According to a confidential internal memo obtained by The Fifth Estate, Jones was warned “he could get himself in trouble because this is just a personal account in his name alone, the in trust does not mean anything …”

    The memo was dated Nov. 7, 2001. But the matter was dropped and Canada’s largest bank allowed Jones to keep doing business as usual.

    Jones had a personal account with the Royal Bank but told his clients it was an “in-trust” account. The only problem the bank had was that Jones was operating his business through the account, and it asked him to open a commercial account in 2008.

    Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/2010/02/04/earl-jones-bank-memo769.html

  18. Caveat emptor. If USA and Israel start bombing Iran nuclear installations, I am not sure nuclear power will stay sexy for long. It’s a warning like that. Wait after the nuking of Teheran by Lord Peace and Love Obanana and the crazies in Israel. Soo funny when you know that Israel has enough H bombs to wipe out ALL the Middle East. Israelis hypocrits and mega war mongers. A lot like the USA when you think of it.

  19. EXCELLENT discussion on the Nuclear Renaissance with David Miller, CEO of Strathmore Minerals (V.STM on the TSX Venture) c/o Financial Sense News…
    his interview starts at about the 30min mark…

    http://www.netcastdaily.com/broadcast/fsn2010-0206-5.mp3

  20. Ok So you imply that they let you burn if you don’t pay. What’s wrong with these people ? Are they lacking a brain ? Think so.

  21. And what happens if you don’t pay. They let you burn ? What a bunch of total assholes. I am trying to find another name but I can’t.

  22. ESBC spokesman Rob Blackford confirmed to ABCNews.com that his company ignores the state recommendation, saying the

    federal Comprehensive Environmental Response, Compensation, and Liability Act, or CERCLA,

    allows fire departments to charge what they see fit in exchange for mitigating the environmental impact of an accident or fire.

  23. @in2dwww – I fully agree with you, it’s wrong. It is a public service and so through taxes it is paid for, as the police and ambulance service is.
    If the direction is to start billing people for Fire services then it like going back in time when they were private corporations which is not a good thing, the society is supposed to have evolved away from that sort of thing.

  24. Steve Keen Interview on Switzer TV
    http://www.switzer.com.au/video/keen20100204

    I’ve also noticed, that Austrian Economists are adopting Keen’s (or the Post-Keynesian?) view of CREDIT INFLATION preceding Central Bank Money creation…
    Perhaps Austrian Economists are seeing the rationale of adapting their theories to a more DYNAMIC ideal…
    http://mises.org/daily/4072

    granted, it appears they have had that view for a long time (going back to Hayek, at least) but it was seemingly not expounded upon…
    http://mises.org/books/austtrad.pdf

    Not that I understand anything, I’m still learning… :D
    I need a MARMITE SANDWICH…

  25. The Underfundedmentalist

    @rastaman
    If I had a nickel for every small business owner who thought that the cato institue had their best interests at heart, I could afford my own think tank.
    And i still don’t understand why a libertarian would be in favor of nationalizing a private banking cartel(the fed), aren’t they for smaller govt?

  26. Libertarian and Republican are oxymorons. One is indicative of a desire to forward individual rights, the other a smokescreen for shady money deals inherently caustic to the individual in preference for the corporate, as Stacey has indicated.

  27. bloodcloth

  28. @Snoot

    Ron Paul is an idiot….and libertarianism is a FOOL’S pursuit…..and those who embrace it are being duped into the Fascist oligarchy that started this mess.

    or haven’t you quite caught on to that yet through Max and Stacy’s advocacy?

    amazing how idiots can eat the food, but never realize its nutrition.

  29. The Underfundedmentalist

    @sg
    Extortionomics!
    Back by unpopular demand!
    This is supply side at its best.
    When a socitey stops making things,
    it starts making things up.

  30. @Y’ALL
    Yes, Yes… Mr G*** it’s been a pleasure doing business with you too… but remember those terms are ONLY for people DIRECTED HERE from maxkeiser.com, so keep the details of this deal to yourself MR G***… one thing before you hang up Mr G*** I’m looking at your details and I couldn’t help noticing you have no life insurance … have you really thought this through… what I’m trying to say Mr G*** is what about your family what happens to them if you die??? YES I KNOW, but… PLEASE… bear with me a second, what I mean is what about Mrs G*** she has no pension… no insurance and limited savings, if she’s left with a mortgage to pay off… then what happens… you know at her age she probably won’t remarry, are you aware of how many women are homeless in this country right now… and do you know one of the biggest causes of women being driven to prostitution… yes Mr G*** HOMELESSNESS,HOMELESSNESS… Of course, I know Mr G*** of course your wife is not like that… I’m not saying that Mr G***… BUT you know the world we live in… I know you’ve read those articles in the papers… yes Mr G**** the ones about schoolgirls selling their bodies that’s right… and with their mothers stood right beside them… OK, well the full package, MORTGAGE and INSURANCE DEAL FOR YOU… courtesy of maxkeiser.com… starts at about $***,****

  31. @MAX

    Meanwhile….on the other side of the galaxy….

    Big Six banks urge Ottawa to tighten mortgage rules

    Top bankers pushing government to clamp down on market to avoid any chance of U.S.-style collapse

    http://www.onepennysheet.com./2010/02/big-six-banks-urge-ottawa-to-tighten-mortgage-rules/

  32. Media Disinformation in America
    You Can Say Anything You Want — As Long As It Doesn’t Have Any Effect

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=17457

  33. That is to say that when everything is bought and paid for, there will be no way for the likes of Paulson and Bernanke Jr. to threaten us with higher taxes and lower benefits. Pummel the market all you want, send in the troops, try to levy higher property taxes – that’s all they can do 40 years from now.

  34. @Palantíri: Good point. But if someone’s already paying for property taxes and fire insurance, then it’s not the homeowner’s duty to pay the fire brigade – the insurance company should be footing that “protection money” as part of their responsibility to reduce liability and mitigate their damages and to protect the homeowner from additional loss.

    @Jon: Whatever Bernanke and Paulson are talking about is misdirection. They will continue to talk about social security because everyone is expecting and counting on it for retirement. Generation RX needs their fixed income that they worked so hard to save and pay for. My generation, on the other hand, isn’t working to save. We’re working to own everything outright so that we can unplug and enjoy a misery-free retirement.

  35. The Underfundedmentalist

    goldman and company will be done with obama in one term,
    pallin paul will be the ticket to the next greatest show on earth.
    There is more choice at the gas pump,
    than there is at the polls.

  36. With all this talk about financial fraud. Got me thinking. Isn’t it fraud when you buy a durable good that breaks soon? China is engaged in manufacturing/durable good fraud. Monsanto is engaged in food fraud. Pollution is ecological fraud. And calling the taking of non-renewable resources “production” while paying tiny royalties to complicit governments who get to use the money flows to buy votes, is yet another fraud. The dominant animals giving themselves more “rights” than other animals is a fraud. The religious demoting others to non-human status as having no beliefs by calling themselves “believers” is a fraud used to avoid having to make the impossible argument that their imaginary Gods exist. It’s all fraud baby.

  37. There are a bunch of Dems who could be thrown into the same evil category, but the entire Republican party (minus Ron Paul) is evil.

    @Mep:
    I would question why Ron Paul would continue to associate with evil, if I were you.

  38. what trojan horse will “progressives” be supporting next time around? with clinton and obama their batting a thousand.

  39. The Underfundedmentalist

    Earth to LA, come in LA, are you there?
    you must be referring to republicans(lower case),
    as opposed to Republicans(upper case).
    Btw I support your freedom to request that stacey curb her freedom, we all have the freedom to say shut up, but that doesn’t supercede our freedom to keep talking.

  40. @ LA – Republicans are evil. The current batch: pure evil. And yes, they represent and reflect everything that is corrosive, corrupt, and wrong with America. There are a bunch of Dems who could be thrown into the same evil category, but the entire Republican party (minus Ron Paul) is evil.

    One can also go backwards in time and see where Republican Presidents have seriously fucked America. Nixon got rid of the gold standard and foisted HMOs onto the country–thereby screwing up our health care system (and being the EVIL person he was, he only said yes to HMOs upon learning that they weren’t in business to improve health, but rather, they get rich by DENYING health care); Reagan started busting unions, completely deregulated the media (leaving us with the consolidated democracy-killing corporate media that we have today), and gutted consumer protection agencies. Bush 1 foisted genetically-modified food on us. And Bush 2 . . . I won’t even start the list.

  41. Mep, I ‘m sure the politico’s will candy coat the whole thing and try and make a end run by taxing us more and cutting services. They know most of us are just sheeple needing someone to herd us. ANd htey’re more than willing to do the herding and shearing and other wonderful things they do to sheep.

  42. LA, were a unbiased group here. WE “hate” all banksters and their political henchmen.

  43. @ jon – They’d also prefer that the public believes that when it comes to SS, Medicare, and other “entitlements,” there are only two options: keep spending or make deep cuts. That way, they won’t have to have public discussions about things like removing the cap from social security, getting rid of Medicare Advantage, or investigating & prosecuting Medicare fraud.

  44. Re: Fire departments are sending bills for their services

    It’s like a full circle back to the old times where Fire departments were corporations and the people that wanted help/security had to pay annual fees to the department.
    When paid there was a sign of some sort people put up in front of the house to show what department they were connected to. Unfortunately if there was a fire and the wrong Fire company reached the house first and saw that the house hadn’t paid to them they would just move on or maybe securing the neighbor house if they had paid.

  45. @stacyherbert

    It would be nice if you would keep from conflating your liberal interests into your analysis or efforts to assist in the analysis of the economic crisis.

    What am I suppose to believe “Lawerence” is a credible thinker and is he your mouthpiece for your true thoughts? Is Maxkeiser.com just a giant effort to eventually line up enough analysis to finally get to a position where you think you can at some time make a conclusion that all ills of life and all banking is representation of those ills are all supported by a Republican ethos? Is this site just some giant effort to keep laying your purported claims that when it comes down to it, it is Republicans that are the blame for it all and everything wrong in life…everything wrong in your own life? So now I can add your excerpted email and add it to a long list of passive-aggressive instances of attempting to line up your claims that the real root of all evil is a Republican. That is what I get from your constant efforts.

    Now, I too support this site and appreciate the analysis and hope the best for your efforts. But I most assuredly resent your hostility toward Republicans. Not that I favor Republicans in particular but because it seems like a false agenda. Which is it? Are you concerned about economics, finance and mathematics or are you trying to make an effort for a political witch hunt. In the end, you might find politicians the evil that you seek. However, you just might find that the real evil is anyone that has an interest to abrogate individual power. That to me is the real threat, real evil. If that is partially correct, I don’t think at the end of all this you will find that interest a Republican ideal.

  46. mep, both greenspan and paulson said this cutting of services has to be done. Because. This is the great part. Because of the financial disaster that happened. What the heck. These are two of the biggest contributers to causeing the finanacial disaster.

    And they say the financial disaster wasn’t done on purpose. My next question is how stupid do they think the sheeple are. Its pretty obvious who caused the financial crisis. Da banksters and their henchmen.

  47. @ jon – Well, Bernacke hasn’t been shy about mentioning cuts to social security, either. Check out Bernacke: yes to social security cuts, no to new jobs bill. Sounds like a path to both short-term economic recovery and long-term stability, doesn’t it? Aren’t you so happy that this dick was re-confirmed?!

  48. did anyone see on the nbc sunday morning news show today with Hanky panky paulson and ex fed ruler greenspan on. And they both said that taxes will need to be raised and social security and other government handouts will have to be cut down.

    Its coming goverment and corporate pensioners and other welfare recipients. Better wake up. Quit being sheeple.

  49. I don’t mind the charge, but I will file for any water damage, whether it’s my soviet couch/bed, or my lost potential revenue on any charcoal I may have had coming.

  50. Here’s a good sing song,…tra la la
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2ikYuUFZzI

  51. I’m getting somewhat of a Monty Python feeling about fire departments billing their “customers” and I wonder if the police department where bills the family also for bullets when they have to shoot people?

  52. @Gordo

    There are more options between being a punchbag for the commercial interests of others and being a terrorist. Using that term, terrorist, is a mark of poor distinction and acceptance of the fear doctrine that is meant to dumb us down into dependence. At the end of the day we are forced to depend on other people, and those other people need to understand that they are aiding a supressive exploitative system.

    Lawrence is still shocked by the fall of his neigbours, but he should be shrugging his shoulders because it was completely to be expected. It does not mean the people that walk away should feel shame, they should feel anger towards those that where part of the system that created the bubble. So one thing Lawrence can do is feel different about events so he realizes there is no guilt in the choices made but there mainly in the choices offered.

  53. so saving you house from the fire will be more expensive in the furure then the actual valeu of the property.

    Let it burn please. It was worth practically nothing…

  54. Phil /Germany

    @Depression Alert … Carlos Santana- EUROPA

    Nice .. Thx !

    See … we are not all lost, there ARE some prominent people that are worthwhile human beings after all ! … Mostly artists* !

    * Not the commercialized crap we get these days .

  55. Phil /Germany

    G7 nations to forgive Haitian debts, keep stimulus plans in place

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrzYGGjmovk&feature=sub

    Funny how these Elites choose Locations that get farther and farther away …
    … are they trying to hide from Protesters ?
    ;-)

  56. so your house is burning…when the Fire Department arrives have them sign a waiver or tell them to bugger off because you are going to let it burn.

    or perhaps private fire brigades will spring up and do it for less?

  57. Phil /Germany

    Anti-Intellectual , Anti-Democratic

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1eBPuPb-nw&feature=sub

    Is it even possible for the Americans to get a third party started ?

    Just imagine if 90% of the US voted for a New Third Party …..
    … would the results still be a Cliffhanger 50/50 for Dems , Reps ?
    ;-)

  58. @ Mother Earth

    What is he supposed to do?

    Become a terrorist or give up what remaining freedom he has for all the people that vote against their own best wishes?

  59. @Stacy

    So now does this guy have the balls to do something but complain?

  60. This sorta incentivizes firefighters to play firebug, oui?

  61. stacy, that guy said it all……pg

  62. Imagine…

    …that the people who control the left (Democrats) are the same people who control the right (Republicans)….

    …it’s easy if you try….

    …no hell below us…above us only sky…

  63. Fuck the house! Let it burn and save the insurance company some money. Do them a favor by mitigating damages before it gets expensive, simply turn the sprinklers on and walk away.

  64. Phil /Germany

    @stacyherbert … an email I just got:

    Actually, I didn’t write that FYI !
    … but have said the same many times.
    ;-)

    … I hope you will let your guests get in the last word, after they have worked up to the subject….

    Reference to an earlier post of mine … “What did Catherine want to say at the end of that interview ?”

    Sill have no answer as yet !

    ( Max cut her off .. to get his last Ad-Words in )
    ;-)

  65. an email I just got:

    Mr. Max Keiser
    The Keiser Report,
    MaxKeiser.com
    Feb. 7, 2010

    Dear Mr. Keiser:

    I’m a huge fan of the Keiser report, after shouting in the wind for the past dozen+ years that “DEREGULATION” would DESTROY the U.S. economy, I have had “the good fortune” to suffer through the unfolding of this current economic crisis, where my current little townhouse, which doubled in nominal (estimated) values over the past 15 years, is now back to almost exactly back to the estimated value where it was in 1994.

    I don’t mind so much for myself, but ANYBODY who bought into this neighborhood in the past 5 years is COMPLETELY UNDERWATER, unless they paid over 50% of their purchase price in cash, or have paid large chunks of cash on their mortgage.

    That’s where this economic crisis is: ANYONE who purchased a home within the past 5 years, is probably seriously under-water in their mortgages. I now have THREE friends who are WALKING AWAY from their mortgages… they survived the Bush-Cheney-Snow-Paulson era of Economic destruction, but are now falling victim to the Obama/Emanuel/Summers/Rubin/Geithner Goldman-Sachs era of PREMEDITATED ECONOMIC DESTRUCTION.

    I’m just writing today to say, I now find the Keiser report to be _THE_ most informative news site on the web, because, well, ALL POLITICS is ABOUT MONEY, and, well, I spent over $70,000 for a degree in Political Science 8 years ago, and it has been and is really sad to see so many Americans fall victim to the MYTHS peddled by the corporate “Mainstream Media,” MYTHS that ROB those very Americans of their health care, their own job security, their own pensions, financial security, children’s education opportunities, THEIR OWN CHILDREN’s HEALTH CARE, etc. etc. etc.

    Since Keiser Report is THE most informative spot in the “news” and web universe, I hope you wont CRUSH the last moments of your interviews with guests.
    I don’t know if your show goes LIVE on TV anywhere, but since the web videos (YouTube) last forever, and since they are SO informative, I hope you will let your guests get in the last word, after they have worked up to the subject.

    By the way, I’ve been ranting for years that the corporate, and especially Goldman-Sachs “Democrats” are actually RADICAL RIGHT-WING REPUBLICANS _masquerading_ as liberals, progressives, and as democratic populists, apparently Joe Lieberman CAMPAIGNING FOR REPUBLICANS, and RAHM EMANUEL being a self-professed $18 million in 2 1/2 years “INVESTMENT BANKER” not being enough “proof” to convince anyone that Big Financial operators are at heart Radical Right-Wingers, just because they donate money to “Democrat” politicians HARDLY makes them “liberal.”

    Well, today that standard of proof is even far simpler: President Obama is NO “liberal” Democrat, he, too is a RADICAL RIGHT-WING GOLDMAN SACHS “Deregulation,” “no oversight of financial markets, and tax-cuts-for-wealthy in time of war” corporate Republican MASQUERADING as a “Democrat”

    And the proof is SIMPLICITY ITSELF: So called “Democrat” President Obama SELECTED for THE TWO MOST POWERFUL & CRITICAL JOBS in the US economy – Secretary of Treasury and Fed Chairman – two of President George W. Bush’s ECONOMY KILLING RETREADS, Timmy Geithner (Bush’s pick for President of NY “Fed Reserve” bank) and Ben Bernanke, Bush’s pick for Fed Chairman, RENOMINATED by OBAMA.

    Yes, the American public is SO USED TO SWILLING the s*** that the corporate media shovels out, that vast swaths of Americans think that Obama is a “liberal” Democrat, even as he nominates TWO UNREPENTENT RADICAL RIGHT-WING REPUBLICANS for HIS MOST VITAL economic jobs!

    Thanks for your excellent reporting, Mr. Keiser, here’s hoping that America survives the Neo-Con radical Right-Wing hijacking of America (the billionaire financial coup in America), and that Americans get the timely information they need, where they can STOP VOTING AGAINST their OWN ECONOMIC well being.

    Sincerely,
    Lawrence

  66. our fie department has never lost a foundation.