Great Depression II, Part 2: Europe Entering Major Economic Crisis

Stacy Summary:  Lots, including us, have been warning that sovereign debt crises will be the second leg of this crisis, now that all the private debts of bankers have been transferred to governments around the world.  Germany, of course, are the savers of Europe, but they spent hundreds of billions last year after all their banks were wiped out by CDOs sold to them by all the usual suspects.  Johnson mentions Italy and UK coming up next after Greece, Portugal and Spain.  And, what about Switzerland?  Their banks were very much behind the global financial crimewave and hold debts many, many times their nation’s GDP.

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325 Responses to Great Depression II, Part 2: Europe Entering Major Economic Crisis

  1. What should be done as a solution?
    What can we personally do to save our standard of living?

  2. frances snoot

    “What are the stronger European countries, specifically Germany and France, doing to contain the self-fulfilling fear that weaker eurozone countries may not be able to pay their debt – this panic that pushes up interest rates and makes it harder for beleaguered governments to actually pay?”

    Does Johnson write for French interests, EU interests, or IMF interests? Johnson was an acting head of the IMF bank:

    http://www.imf.org/external/np/bio/eng/sj.htm

    Because France is not in a strong position at present:

    “Our concern isn’t so much for the PIIGS (Portugal, Spain, Ireland, Italy, Greece), ironically though. Ireland has taken some smart steps; Spain has a lot of room that they can raise taxes should they need to. Italy is probably too big to fail; Portugal simply too small. Our concern is actually for France and Belgium. These are countries that are core eurozone members, but their debt by almost every measure is just as bad as it is in Southern Europe.
    To date, the Europeans have chosen to push all of the blame and all of the focus on the PIIGS. But if we get to the point that Greece actually fails, it’s not just going to be Spain and Portugal and Italy that are going to be following. It’s going to be some very big, very serious countries.”

    http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/4307

  3. frances snoot

    This sentence is rather telling:

    “Does the IMF really have enough resources to backstop all the PIIGS?”

    I think Mr. Johnson should tone down his rhetoric else some reader might find him a bit of a racist pig.

  4. Henrique Oliveira

    This is a bit off topic, but I just looked up pictures of the bustling metropolis of Iqaluit, Nunavut, on Google Earth. Iqaluit is the “city” where the finance ministers of the Group of Seven are meeting this weekend to discuss whatever these guys discuss when they meet.

    Iqaluit has got to be the saddest, sorriest piece of Earth I have ever seen. It is a long way from being even a modest fishing village. The beaches are strewn with junk, collected over the years. The whole area served as a dump site for the USAF in the 1960s, and there’s plenty of crap left to rust.

    I was appalled that such squalor is to be found in Canada – the scene looks a lot more like a snapshot of a Gulag in Siberia. I strongly recommend either visiting the place on Google Earth or otherwise googling up pix.

    This choice of venue seems to serve a dual function – exiling the Finance Ministers to a Siberia-like end-of-the-world, albeit for a weekend; and, of course, escaping the wrath of the peasantry that would greet such a meeting had it been held in Toronto or Montreal.

  5. At last, the beleaguered baltics finally come up better, despite it all.

    All their big banks are scandinavian (swedish), and they can actually leave them holding the big bag to bite.

    Lithuania has even been offering nice bonds to avoid the IMF monster creeping around it’s door.

  6. did anyone see on the nbc sunday morning news show today with Hanky panky paulson and ex fed ruler greenspan on. And they both said that taxes will need to be raised and social security and other government handouts will have to be cut down.

    Its coming goverment and corporate pensioners and other welfare recipients. Better wake up. Quit being sheeple.

  7. Mike/Liverpool

    Stacy
    I want reports of the UK £ going “Iceland”….this is weak!
    Mike

  8. Hey, doesn’t Holland play any role? Where is our debt crisis!

    @Snoot

    The IMF, created by and agency supossed to be in service of participant countries, should be the first thing to go as an extraneous market participant.

  9. Personaly, I can’t wait for an EMU member to fail,

    Us piigs here in Ireland can then pull out of the EU/ EMU, Go back to the punt , devalue then take back our fishing areas.

    Then we can close our boarders and truffle hunt for ourselves. Oink oink….

  10. @MotherEarth:
    Do you wish for suprasovereign agency to end, or only the IMF?

  11. How about the GRAB countries?
    Germany, Russia, Austria, and Belgium?

  12. hey just saw Hank Paulson & Alan Greenspann on Meet The Press .. kinda weird

  13. alistar, thats what I mentioned. Did you hear them advocating having to raise taxes and cut services to help pay for the financial crisis.

    That they helped create on purpose. I hope they do rasie taxes and make massive cuts on services so the stupid slovenly average american will maybe finally wake up.

  14. @namarama. jbeats had another good vid from ireland today.

  15. @ronron

    Hi.
    jbeats? any links buddy?

  16. Anybody know a good site to explore the debt vs. gdp ratio for all european countries?

  17. @namarama. he’s a utuber. sorry jbyeats

  18. Meanwhile…

    CDS prices are going up for Europe
    Prices of credit-default swaps tied to European companies with stronger credit ratings, including banks, also rose on Thursday, with the cost of insuring the debt of Spanish and Portuguese banks jumping in particular. Even banks like the U.K.’s Barclays PLC and Germany’s Deutsche Bank AG saw their debt-default insurance costs rise.
    http://tiny.cc/PWuoW

    I thought the lesson about these derivatives was learned???
    Oh those wacky Financial Terrorists… they’ll never stop…

  19. @Snoot

    The plural of agent is agents and of ageny is agencies. The IMF is not suprasovereign, it is an agent of the US. It is an instrument for oppertunistic destructive impulses which it was not intended to be. Imho in a fiat system risks should be exactly that: risks. With a down side. There are insurance companies, but beyond that there is no justice in leveraging the future to satisfy ‘needs’ now.

  20. Once again the dis-information continues, while Greece may represent less than 5% of the EU GDP, California which represents a far larger portion of USA GDP is actually in worse shape than Greece. People rushing to prop up the US$–frying pan fire anyone??

  21. @GGees

    The one that lets things drop can pick up the pieces..like with a chocolate easter bunny..

  22. Hi Stacy and Max, how are you? Just wanted to give you some information that you might find interesting. Today, I tried to do more research on The Movement in Iceland so that I could get involved and I wasn’t able to access their official website…I’m based in Italy at the moment and I wonder if Berlusconi’s people/government has done something to the internet connection…cause I can’t log on to their website…unless of course I do have the wrong address:

    http://www.islandshreyfingin.is

    I tried accessing through two different computers.

    I was able to sign the petition to save the people of Iceland through Facebook but I hate Facebook. Anyway, thought I should let you know.

  23. “Europe’s current share of 23% of quotas is roughly equal to its share of the world economy. The US, on the other hand, represents 30% of the world economy but only 17% of the quotas.”

    http://www.euractiv.com/en/euro/eu-worries-loss-influence-imf/article-157354

    @ME:
    EU is looking to get a seat on the IMF council. The region has more representation by quota than the US.

    I did not indicate that IMF was suprasovereign at this time. I asked if you were against suprasovereign agency. Are you?

    (agency may function in the capacity of a verb in english indicating ability to choose)

    “The condition of being in action; operation.”

    http://www.thefreedictionary.com/agency

  24. @ES

    WRONG SITE…
    Don’t worry… Berlusconi hasn’t shut down the Internet yet…
    :D
    Is this the site you’re looking for?
    http://www.indefence.is/

  25. Lindsey Williams has heard from the Elitist again.

    http://www.parenting-healthy-children.com/News.html
    (scroll to Lindsey Williams’ section). Max, why not have Lindsey Williams on your show? Here’s it in brief:

    # End 2010 Food Unaffordable!

    # End 2010 Gasoline to $5.00/gallon & Derivatives Designed to Collapse World Economy & Health Care Bill Spell Gov Takeover

    # Planned Collapse World Economy

    # Switch to Tangibles Gold Silver US falls to Third World Status China New World Power

    # How your Pension Fund will become Worthless

  26. @Snoot

    “I did not indicate that IMF was suprasovereign at this time. I asked if you were against suprasovereign agency. Are you?”

    You did, but you used agency in the wrong way and forgot to qualify which agencies when you said

    “Do you wish for suprasovereign agency to end, or only the IMF?”

    Compare “Do you wish for life on earth to end or only your own?”

    your own is included so you did indicate that IMF was suprasovereign at this time..

    Semantics snooty boy..

    or juxtapoetry of course.

  27. @g7enn … Lindsey Williams has heard from the El

    If he’s anything like his book, Max will never get an answer out of him until 2 days later !
    ;-)

    The Videos I’ve seen are the same … closes each chapter with “you will soon hear about the most shocking blablabla” … and on and on and on !
    Never gets there !

    OK .. I finally got to the last chapter of his book .. interesting read … but who is his “Deep Throat” ? …. A PTB member ?

  28. This is how dumb the news is

    “Middletown blast: ‘Mass casualties’ at US power plant. A huge explosion has rocked a power plant in the US state of Connecticut, with US media reporting at least two people killed and many more injured.”

    ‘Two casulaties’ is not ‘mass casualties’, but as the news is carried without criticism it has to remain obviously inconsistent.

  29. @g7enn … Lindsey Williams

    I actually bought the book , and then realized it was a free download !
    ;-)

    BTW .. your linked content points to “Keiser Report #14 ”
    Max talking to Jon Perkins
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPjMUg9bt_I&feature=player_embedded

    @ 16 minutes, USA next !

  30. @Y’ALL
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  31. @Y’ALL
    Oops! wrong thread!!!

  32. The Underfundedmentalist

    Waiting for leadership is a fools errand.
    Be your own unitary supersoverign executive.
    a la emperor norton:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emperor_Norton#Declares_himself_.22Emperor.22
    Be the papa of dada.
    not the po’po’ of mulah.
    translation for non-beatniks
    Create your own reality,
    don’t be a mercenary.

  33. Casualty:

    - serious or fatal accident
    - a person or thing injured, lost, or destroyed

    comprehension – get some

  34. @G7enn:

    Isn’t the inclusion of Lindsey Williams on the site you link a bit incongruous? Lindsey believes in the inherent word of god, the Bible, which recommends spanking of children.

    Also: why doesn’t Lindsey just give us the names of the criminals behind our suffering so we can put the guys in jail? Are we supposed to thank Lindsey for his godly act of enabling the criminal’s actions by concealing their identities?

    Further: the sdr reweight is most likely the ‘event’ that will trigger the dollar devaluation. If the yuan is included along with other trade currencies, the dollar should see a major dilution. Why doesn’t Lindsey just speak sensibly and talk about this item? Is he unaware of the sdr’s contribution to the value of trade-weighted currency? Or does he also seek to protect the interest of those sovereign wealth functionaries which have access to the sdr-denominated assets through the IMF banks activities?

    How does he believe gold will retain value in a hyperinflationary environment when it is priced in dollars? Won’t the ETF market collapse as well?

  35. @Dan II

    Casulaties? Many accidents?

  36. @Snoot. yes the paper gold will collapse. gonna be hard to prop up paper gold. real gold will be really shiny then. i know i can’t eat gold but if you cash out and pay debt at the right time you may have a better time in this coming nightmare. i could be wrong of coarse.

  37. @MotherofEarthlywisdomandRhetoricalprowess:

    What?! I do believe the IMF is acting in a suprasovereign way, but they still have to lie about it. I guess the only change would be this one:

    “Do you wish for suprasovereign agency to end, or only the IMF?”

    To this: Do you wish for suprasovereign agency to end, or just the IMF?

    In which case I would like to mention that the IMF is not the only agency working to overstep their administration through bullying. Of course one might add: the WHO, the UN, the EU, Norad, The North Pole (who gave Santa the right to shimmy down chimneys without a warrant?), the World Bank, the Girl Scouts (I mean we have to buy those cookies so we don’t look ‘mean’), NATO, et.al.

    It reveals, really, that the nature of man is one of a surfeit of individual agency in collusion with the tribal spoils.

    What about those Habsburgs?!

    Here’s a link defending agency as a verbal entity:
    http://rhetorica.net/burke.htm

  38. The cracks areally starting to show under the duct tape
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8499939.stm

  39. @Henrique Oliveira

    While you are google-earthing our country, you may want to note its size. Canada occupies 1/16th of the planet’s total land mass. And considering we don’t have roads going to every last outpost in the nation; it’s sometimes a little difficult to keep every last square inch of it as tidy as your double-standards might dictate.

    “I was appalled that such squalor is to be found in Canada”

    If you really want to see squalor in this country, take a look at the conditions forced onto natives by their racist chiefs, corrupt casino bosses and their unsustainable reserve system. I should also note that until receiving its 15 minutes of fame, the overwhelming majority of Canadians probably didn’t even know Iqaluit existed nor cared that it did. Yet on the other hand, your criticism of Canada would be viewed by almost all as disdainful and stereotypically arrogant.

    BTW, your observation that this meeting was held at the ends of the earth to avoid protesters and limit accessibility by media is likely correct. Cheers.

  40. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8499699.stm

    “Some investors believe the recovery is the direct result of governments pumping billions of dollars into their economies to stimulate demand.

    When they stop pumping money in, they fear, economies will begin to shrink again”

    Well Duh!. where did people think the stimlus money was going?

  41. and only a few weeks ago the BCC were declaring the recession over and the UK was in full but gentle recovery.
    LIES

    Looks like war will be needed or things will surely hit the fan this time round.

  42. @ francis Snoot.

    WHAT?!

    Im sorry but i see no issue with disciplining a child, and if that means a smack so be it.
    ITs no coincidence that since a bunch of morons decided to play god and divinly say smacking a child to be wrong that we have created a few generations of self centered, brain dead idiot kids who think all that they want is there right. No resposibilty for there actions.
    Now i hear these do good idiots saying you should not stop the childs pocket money or ban them from watching TV but should talk to them………YEAH RIGHT, and the break up of the family structure continues as planned.

  43. frances snoot

    @Dustin:
    I did not indicate my opinion concerning spanking, but only Lindsey William’s which I supposed to be incongruous to the site that was being linked.

  44. The Underfundedmentalist

    @ dustin
    the super bowl could prove very catalyzing,
    can’t wait for the haftime show
    the who
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LabxxEgMTjo
    ‘I get on my knees and pray,
    we won’t be fooled again.’
    say your pwayers, you wascally wabbits!

  45. Phil /Germany

    Super-wealthy investors move billions out of Greece

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/feb/07/greek-rich-pull-out-billions-debt

    …A staggering €8bn-€10bn (£7bn-£8.7bn) may have been taken out of Greece by private investors since it became engulfed by economic turmoil in November. …

    €8bn-€10bn is hardly staggering now is it !
    … even for such a small country .

  46. YAY! great who song. Who knew at the time how relevent those lyrics would be.

    @snoot, sorry if i jump the gun on you, just i actually feel sorry for kids who dont get a good upbringing and then get a brutal slap when they then have to live in the real world.

    As for Lindsey williams, well hes a man of half truths and much piss and wind. Sure he knows some stuff, but then he gets things wrong too.(like Mccaine would be president).

    The Bonfire of national debts is about to be lit me thinks, and once again Max told us this mths ago.

  47. The Underfundedmentalist

    @dustin ‘Who knew at the time how relevent those lyrics would be’
    They were relevent at the time they were written, Viet Nam, and nixon being elected to end it. He didn’t. The song remains the same.

  48. @dustin
    I think if you can’t bring up a kid without resorting to physical violence… you are probably SAD, BAD or SICK or all three!!!!

  49. @ Giuseppe Bagodonutti

    Mille Grazie!!!

  50. frances snoot

    Bob Chapman cites a Harvard fund manager in his latest report; the man he cites lost Harvard millions:

    One solution: Don’t even try, just hand over all of the endowment to outside money managers. But Mr. El-Erian insisted on keeping things intact. He talked of the “structural advantages” of investing a big endowment backed by an AAA-rated university, such as allowing you to borrow at low rates when making leveraged bets. The former Pimco emerging-market superstar also believed that the developing countries offered big profits to smart investors like HMC because they had become less risky thanks to ample dollar reserves and a growing middle class.

    So Mr. El-Erian upped HMC’s exposure to emerging-market stocks, which rose from 6% of assets when Mr. Meyer left, to 11% two years later. He also used total return swaps to bet on developed world stocks and commodities on the cheap, freeing up money for other investments. Tapping former Stanford endowment staffer Mark Taborsky (an “important hire,” Mr. El-Erian would later write in a book), Mr. El-Erian also took money from hedge funds he didn’t like and redirected it to ones he thought were winners, putting hundreds of millions into funds in Latin America, Asia and the Middle East.

    The moves looked brilliant. For the year ended June 2007, Harvard returned 23% versus 17.7% for 151 other big institutional investors (and 20.6% for the S&P 500). Fearing all markets could soon fall, Mr. El-Erian injected what he referred to as “Armageddon insurance” into HMC’s portfolio for the first time by buying interest rate floors, or a wager that rates would fall, and betting, via credit default swaps, that companies could soon struggle to pay their debts.

    For the following year, through June 2008, Harvard gained 8.6%, versus a 13% fall in the S&P. Mr. El-Erian’s insurance accounted for much of HMC’s outperformance. Hedge funds, however, were sucking up cash — HMC had increased investments in those areas to 19% from 12% a year earlier. The returns were flat. It’s unclear how much of the results –good or otherwise — were Mr. El-Erian’s doing. He left at the end of 2007, six months before the results came in, citing a desire to move back near his wife’s family in California and return to Pimco as heir apparent to founder Bill Gross.

    Since July, emerging-market shares have been a disaster, falling 50%, as measured by the MSCI Emerging Markets Index, worse than U.S. stocks. Another problem: Mr. El-Erian’s insurance has been partly taken off since he left, leaving HMC vulnerable when markets plunged this fall. The total return swaps, which easily could have been terminated, were left alone. The EFG-Hermes Middle East North Africa Opportunities Fund, a hedge fund launched in September 2007 with some US$200-million of HMC cash, was down 35% in 2008. Mr. El-Erian’s big hire, Mr. Taborsky, left HMC in September. He’s since joined Mr. El-Erian at Pimco. Messrs. El-Erian and Taborsky decline to comment.

    http://www.financialpost.com/related/topics/story.html?id=1353116

  51. @Y’All
    society has laws to stop adults hitting each other… but it’s OK to hit a child, that is some backward logic. If you think talking to your own children is a waste of time then you are a failing as a parent in my opinion!!!

  52. @Y’ALL
    MONEY, MONEY, MONEY… that might be all most of you are fit to talk about… SADDO’S

  53. frances snoot

    Everything’s roses for these guys: including their magazine The Economist:

    http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=RIT_Capital_Partners_plc

  54. frances snoot

    Children should be able to trust adults and receive only loving discipline and respect, not beatings.

  55. The Underfundedmentalist

    If you don’t have to spank your kids, once in awhile,
    you probably have them on drugs.

  56. and this just in from the sicko department…..

    US Soldier waterboards his 4-year old daughter because she could not recite the alphabet…

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1249191/Soldier-father-accused-waterboarding-daughter-4-recite-alphabet.html

  57. endless occupation of haiti by american military

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdqBdenYOQg

    secret meetings of the banks

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZPms2kiNkw

    Government Steals & Stores Your Kid’s DNA Without Your Consent

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGNbBeoVCS0

  58. Max and Stacy here is a great potential guest:

    Frederick J. Sheehan Author of Panderer to Power A Biography of Alan Greenspan
    He was interviewed here: http://www.netcastdaily.com/broadcast/fsn2010-0206-2.mp3
    The Real Player version is here: http://www.netcastdaily.com/broadcast/fsn2010-0206-2.ram
    This is the MP3 Windows Media version: http://www.netcastdaily.com/broadcast/fsn2010-0206-2.asx

  59. got 2 fully growed boys. lotsa work. you’ll figure it out. i hope you get the chance.

  60. The Underfundedmentalist

    Is this child abuse
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkbJWZvBVvk
    Spelling bee’s(sic)

  61. @ Evening all, so what’s happening same old same old lol horrible human beings yep some are very horrible indeed …we be extinct shortly and we can leave the animals to eat each other.

    Just follow the money, for the most interesting psychological twists and turns of mass manipulation and deceit, it takes us to the centre of what’s going on and I find it more interesting

  62. If I were manipulating this site from the outside I would plant conversation to sway debate from one topic to another.

    Something with a emotional human context that takes people away from the subject of money,,, anything but money don’t talk about the crisis

    Dont panic don’t panic lol dont learn about blinking money lol
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_AaiNL8H54

  63. oh oh. max was caught with peter schiff tapes in his bag. paid his bail with a half sovereign. KGB drove him home. not a mark on him. stacy made sandwiches cut in triangles.

  64. India inflation sparks food shortage fears 6/02
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LO2gi6qxHw&feature=player_embedded#

  65. what filbon where’s is Bonn. he’s skinny enough. not seen him all day.

  66. @SGrrr,..Why don’t you talk about money, make a change,..get out of your rutt!
    you might learn something : )
    Or maybe you could just smoke some pot, listen to some jazz, and get wasted,…tum de dum,..

  67. @ Bonn
    Well he probably having a gin and tonic or after his golf

    Europe’s financial crisis

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAU0kx7lQrU&feature=player_embedded

  68. hic hic

  69. Haha.. Now that I got time to read the article its clear the US is lamenting that Europe is not gorging on future revenue..Lets hope this really means we will escape a permanent bloodletting like Japan has suffered through and the US is preparing itself for..

  70. California Doctor

    Contagion seems to be the word of the day.

    It is obvious after seeing the poor control on the H1N1 epidemic’s spread that the UN and most national governments are poor at controlling contagion.

    It looks to me like the only nation that really did a great job at containing the spread of the disease was China.

    Irony of all irony is that the EU did a poor job of containing the contagion even when the French and Germans were producing vaccine.

    If you can’t innoculate your people against a killer influenza virus, do you really think the governments can innoculate against the soft-killer of financial derivatives exposure?

  71. for nothing. the EU unelected are working on getting rid or jury trials. no more judgment by your peers. you the judge.

  72. @ Mike to Liverpool

    Marc Faber isnt selling and will never sell lol
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAJeZaFdbJA&feature=player_embedded#

  73. @Caldoc. you should see a doctor fast.

  74. The Underfundedmentalist

    Hey fibon, ronron
    you get your flu shots?

  75. @Underfunded. no. you?

  76. So the nazis bastards in New-Zealand and Australia are starting to censure Infowars and Planet Prison ? Same thing in the UK and Italy ? Better be very careful Max and Stacy. If thes anglo-saxon nazis are starting to attack Alex Jones, you are not far on anglo-sazon nazi ban list. National-Socialist. Yeah that piece of manure Obanana is a nazi. Absolutely. Fascism is what these banksters are preoparing. It’s so evident that’s it’s not even funny.

    They are starting to shut down the Internet.

  77. So sad

    ——————-

    Venezuela Devalues Bolivar 17% To 50%
    Forbes staff, 01.09.10, 07:46 AM EST
    Two-tier exchange rate reintroduced to limit imports and help domestic businesses.

    http://www.forbes.com/2010/01/09/chavez-devalues-bolivar-markets-currencies-venezuela.html

  78. @M/A. calm down. the spooks love the net. can’t spook without it. keep talking.

  79. The Underfundedmentalist

    @ronron
    my flu shot was jaegermeister,
    works everytime!

  80. All I know is my supposedly very smart brother a teacher at a big high school and his wife a doctor in san diego never spanked or backed up any punishment on his two kids. They just sent them to their rooms as punishment. And the kids knew the routine. A half hour in thier rooms and they came out. And because their was no punishment that taught the kids perimeters both kids went to prison for all sorts of crimes they committed. Because they never had punishment that worried them. They’re in thier late 20′s now and finally making a life for themselves. And I’ve heard this story many times from parents who never spanked or punished their kids enough that it would set perimeters.

    Of course you can over do it. THose are the kids that are police and military people now. Those types are sicko’s.

  81. @The Underfundedmentalist
    Id rather eat silver till im blue in the face,,,, is that flue thing coming back again?

  82. Justget Itright

    Raising kids is a life challenge, as a parent , you are up against a system that is programming kids for failure. I, believe in tough Love. My kids think I am really off the edge sometimes. BUT, I see results with time. They come back to you a couple weeks later after being drubbed by Dad. They chatter bout how they see situations. You know when your successful when you smile inside after they respond in a way that you as a parent know is right.

    The system is fucked up, all about the stinkin dollar.

  83. The Underfundedmentalist

    Any bets on some superbowl hyjinx?
    or is that hijynx?

  84. Some Europeans specially all these coked up pro-USA drug addicks hooked on the american way of speculating and making money, desserve it. You really do. Sorry. Said to say. But I remember that Europe’s banking is even more screwed up than US banking.

    Wondered ? Will Switzerland go bankrupt ? Seems so to me.

  85. Justget Itright

    Underfunded

    Like the Saints in an upset, how bout you?

  86. The Underfundedmentalist

    @fib
    i think the flu rerun is only gonna be on cable,
    the pay-per-view trailer was a flop

  87. Switzerland financial leverage (an average) 80 to 1 !

  88. The Underfundedmentalist

    @ justget
    i’ll watch the game like a nascar race,
    to see if anything goes up in a ball of flames.
    sure, go saints
    radiernation is rather indifferent, as always

  89. I’m curios to see what gold will do in the middle of the night. should get drunk and pass out. hahaha

  90. Also The Netherlands is among the high risk countries according to the Wall Street Journal http://tinyurl.com/yewalk8

    Euro Zone Grapples With Debt Crisis http://tinyurl.com/yf73vkd

    Because our Minister of Finance Wouter Bos wanted to back up the Dutch (and other) Icesave customers he put his neck in the gallows somtin he hadn’t have to do at all.

  91. @ Dedo
    Its all connected lol just press the bubbles its cool
    Risk Interconnection Map

    But is this map accurate? lol ;-)
    http://www.weforum.org/documents/riskbrowser2010/risks/#

  92. OK then. What happens when UBS goes bankrupt. Switzerland goes bankrupt and all bondholders and savers get a nice indefinit bank holiday Argentina style ?

    Ok. So what does that mean for the savers ? the bondholders ? and for the system ? for the pension plans ? for you insurance policies ? in general. A country specific paralysis or european and american paralysis ? It’s frustrating. Could you at least find articles describing what would happen if tomorrow this scenario happens ?

  93. @Y’ALL
    wouldn’t it be great if the all worlds problems could be reduced to NUMBERS and MONEY alone… not the CAUSES not the EFFECTS just NUMBERS and MONEY… oh and GOLD… ha ha… NOT even SCANDAL… or POLITICS… we need a RAINMAN… RAINMAN… where are you when we need you most … LEAD us out of our MESS…. PLEASE RAIN MAN… PLEASE!!!

  94. @M/A. you and i are in trouble. ontario and quebec hard times.

  95. G-7 Vows to Keep Economic Stimulus Even as Budget Deficits Grow (Bloomberg) http://tinyurl.com/yd6q5ca

  96. i see a sing song coming. ;-)

  97. @Fibon
    The World at the brink of bankruptcy. No kidding. If everybody goes bankrupt at the same time, nobody goes bankrupt.

  98. Justget Itright

    Fibon—think that map was assembled by an alien? Youri might have an insight … who puts a map like that together? Like to feel the bail version

  99. The Triumph of Zombie Economics http://tinyurl.com/yz2h8p2

    Santa Fe Institute economist: One in four Americans is employed to guard the wealth of the rich http://tinyurl.com/ycfc34q

    US food stamps set ever-higher record-32.8 million http://tinyurl.com/yc7z8gb

  100. Justget Itright

    Think if everyone goes bankrupt at the same time, the elite can not siphon off there cut. More logical if they take things down one a time, than those greedy devils can suck off each one as they fall.

  101. @SG
    No one likes there job and you dont like being stuck with us lot
    but being paid to surf the net isn’t bad..
    happy reading
    http://www.urbansurvival.com/inflate.htm

  102. Justget Itright

    Fibon—think that map was assembled by an alien? Youri might have an insight … who puts a map like that together? Like to feel the BRAIL version

  103. @Y’ALL
    MOMMA why do they want to take our LOVEY DOVEY imaginary WORLDS away MOMMA… no more DRIVEL MOMMA… NO MORE mindless chit chat METHINKS… MOMMA WHENCE dooze their EVIL FEEWINGS come from MOMMA…. when will it be cozy happy days for ikkle me AGAIN MOMMA… METHINKS I MISS OUR IKKLE GAMES MOMMA!!!

  104. @Fib,..cool link!,..I wouldn’t get to mixed up with the interconnections….you’d end up like some of the commenter’s on this site,..cuckoo,.cuckooo! : )

  105. @Justget Itright

    On first sight it looks like an interesting graph. But I can’t bake any cake out of it either maybe if statistics is your daily job you can?

    http://www.weforum.org/documents/riskbrowser2010/risks/#

    Seems to me this graph is as accurate as the ones who made it. It also contains a lot of subjective risks like terrorism. For me the risk of terrorism is 0.1% but the risk of state organized terrorism (False Flag) is 99.9%. Don’t even see it mentioned in here.

  106. Secret banker’s meeting in Autralia. While the pollitical puppets are in Iqualuit eating whale blabber, the real bosses are trying to fix the system, question of stealing another couple of trillions from the taxpayers wihtout being noticed.
    The same people that destroyed the monetary system want to save you.
    BIS reunion with Skippy.

    http://www.prisonplanet.com/bank-for-international-settlements-holds-secret-banker-meeting.html

  107. I want my truth-about-comments.

    old ones are waering off!!!!!!!

    :)

    …and tnx to large profits of bankers, drug quality is terrible…
    :D
    (profits go up/quality goes down – all the time – same old story)
    Did good drug producers move out of afganistan becouse war drove real-estate price downs, so it is no use…
    Where would they go? Somalia? Kenya?
    :D

    @M&S, Where will be Safe Heaven Countries?

  108. Washington digs out of blizzard, but another storm accompanied by brutal cold is on the way http://tinyurl.com/yju2ylv

  109. frances snoot

    Heh, ronron!

    How’s Keiserville?

  110. The Underfundedmentalist

    developero
    some drugs are easier to ‘cut’ than others

  111. Financial Collapse 2010 – Repetition of the 29 Depression

    http://www.youtube.com/user/jberni1

  112. The Underfundedmentalist

    @ronron
    here’s that song, the recoverists anthem
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nnjkb4q6FKU
    you can bet your bottom dollar

  113. @fib
    No I do like lots of people on this website… I just don’t like people that behave like little teenagers trying to create a sad references and in jokes just to exclude other people and make themselves feel cool… or just as a way to be plain rude about people when they can’t get their own way with debate… also they haven’t got enough balls to just go out and get a real life… yeah and if had ever read the comments you would realise that mostly… I ain got time for two particularly Sad and Desperate posters… who would do well to just go onto forum and work out their MOTHEER and SON relationship!!!!

  114. @Youri Carma
    I just pasted it for a laugh!
    Wonder if we will see another spike in half an hour

    99% my opinion on the up

    lol
    ;-)

  115. @Youri
    I’m lovin it ! Washington Snowmaggedon followed by Freezageddon ! I’m lovin it ! Where is Al Gore ? Probably hiding. When will you start paying you credit carbon credit to your USA slave master Lord Gore ?

  116. @ron or ronda
    we all know you need to get laid desperately, why don’t you go out and find a nice young man your own age… if you are scared I have heard SF or Australia are good places to explore masculine sexuality!!!

  117. SG, you know there are people who just think they are right. Have you looked in the mirror lately. YOU ought to try and listen to other people. Seriously.

  118. @SG
    To whom do you report too?
    Why stay on this site when you are obviously annoyed by some individuals.
    Some one must be paying you to stay and insult people on here?

  119. Mmmm, I see Alistair Campbell adopts the tried and tested ‘Hilary Clinton’ method for acquiring sympathy:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8502730.stm

  120. California Doctor

    The Super Bowl is staring.
    Queen Latifah started it off with a rousing version of America!
    Carrie Underwood with our Star Spangled Banner

    Pass me the Papa John’s Large with everything on it, a bag of Doritos, and a good sofa.

    I’m about to join 400 million Americans (including illegals) who see this as a national holiday.

    For those in Europe, Russia, and Asia; Americans annually watch over-paid athletes (some making millions per game) follow an oblong leather ball (which bounces randomly) around an planted grass turf field while being officiated by a bunch of over-the-hill referees and being broadcast to the entire nation live.

    It is days like these that make the NYSE “investor” class abandon their Bloomberg terminals and instead turn to party animals for an afternoon.

  121. Phil /Germany

    Polanski screens ‘Ghost Writer’ at chalet
    Sunday, February 7 2010, 22:40 GMT

    …The director, who will not be allowed to attend the film’s premiere at the Berlin Film Festival in Germany on Friday, is said to be delighted with the finished product.

    http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/movies/news/a201926/polanski-screens-ghost-writer-at-chalet.html

    Aha … he finally got it out !
    Well done … I’ll be there !

  122. The Underfundedmentalist

    @ptah
    So allister is saying that lying a nation into war is not an agenda, but saying that is exactly what happened, is.
    Rove Lives!

  123. Polanski needs a “ghost prisoner “, should not be hard to find given the unemployment these days.

  124. @fib
    listen you imitation muppet!!! it was you that started talking to me… this website aint about just one person, two people or even you or me for that matter… WHO PAYS ME… HA,HA… stop taking yourself and the internet so seriously… look here is a link to song and my online music storage… you can send me an email…. I live in islington LONDON, pop round I’ll make you a cup of tea… I’ll wait up!!! or you can arrange to meet me anytime… and make your own mind up about me or we can chat about the website!!! if that’s all you wanna do… or maybe just leave me an abusive email if that’s all you are really about… but please stop wasting my time with this crap!!!

    Linda Lewis – Reach For The Truth. (mp3)
    http://tinyurl.com/yejnt9a

  125. @Y’ALL
    HUH!!!
    Linda Lewis – Reach For The Truth.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDdX0YyLCRs

  126. SG, in fairness to you. Do you have any ideas or thoughts other than ragging on people here. WE’d really like to hear what you think of things other than the ragging. I would anyway.

  127. The Underfundedmentalist

    @sg
    you think you got problems over there?
    welcome to the terrodome brother
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5BEaE4ar4g

  128. Illinois Brandon

    We are all doomed!

  129. The Underfundedmentalist

    @ib
    pull up a lawn chair and watch rome burn!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXHNlTUZt8U

    ‘Well as those first bombs start dropping
    we wondered, where the hell is that transistor radio!
    you know, turn on what the newsman has to say
    about one of those a-rab countries talking ’bout a
    FAILED NEGOTIATION?!’
    80′s hardcore is a great resource for current issues

  130. i dunno if anyone else notices the quote by geitner, where he claims that europe will manage the problem. isnt that the problem? management? why manage it instead of solving it?i was under the impression that problems should be answered, not managed. managing a problem only extends its life beyond what it would have been if it was solved. sure it would be painful to solve the problem of national debt, but managing it hasnt helped

  131. Phil /Germany

    @SG … Islington

    .. used to live in Arundel Square …great place !
    Screen on the Green , Hope & Anchor etc. !

  132. @phil
    huh… nice… I’m top of st john street… it’s changed a lot… the super rich have taken over… I was wondering why you mentioned ‘the screen’ a couple of nights ago…. I was always more of a ‘scala’ fan two films and different programme everyday… great rep cinema… that’s why I ditched the telly over twenty years ago!!!
    great little movie about ‘The Scala Cinema’
    http://tinyurl.com/yjq7jo9

  133. frances snoot

    Well, Eileen?

    Yes, I have been pursing together what he’s been uttering for the last few days. Here it is, Doctor:
    “LOVEY DOVEY, MOMMA, got enough balls, MOTHEER and SON relationship”, oh and he keeps mentioning someone named Rhonda, although he often calls her Ron.

    Hmmm. Interesting. Is he a bed-wetter?

    No, Doc. He spends an inordinate amount of time listening to odd music, but he has a normal social life. He only exhibits the ‘latent maniacal tendencies’ when he spends time on the internet. He tends to pepper his posts with periods, A LOT OF PERIODS, and a strange penchant for CAPS.

    Eileen, I’m afraid there is not a lot we can prescribe for the poor lad. Fresh air, more fruits and vegetables, and water might help. He seems preoccupied with a lack of some quality ingredient: did you say if he attended college?

    No, Oh Doctor! Don’t get me started on that! He thinks higher education is the mark of the beast! Why he insists that college graduates are losers fit for nothing except perhaps floating about like jellyfish. He often picks on someone named Snoot.

    SNOOT?! Is that a Christian name or a surname, Eileen?!

    Well, the snoot character answers to: Snoot, Noot, Snootch, Fanny, Frank, and Frances. She also seems to be a bit odd, but not dangerous. My goodness, Doc! SG can barely tolerate her: one wonders what she could possibly post to aggravate him so highly!

    Eileen, I’d diss that file. The young man is just ‘finding his wind’ so to say. He will surely grow out of this obsessive muttering. All in a day’s work, Eileen. I think we need to concentrate on that other file: what was the man’s name?

    Oh, MotherEarth?

  134. 1/4 of Americans are employed in maintaining income disparity according to Samuel Bowles.

    http://en.scientificcommons.org/34340711

  135. Stacy, Thanks for the link. it’s an interesting article. It seem like Euro Zone countries are in stalemate. In the article, he mentioned about the financial crisis in Korea in 1997 and Imf. During the crisis in 1997, IMF forced korean government to privatise Heath Care System, but they refused it. Actually korea has a very good Heath Care System.Of course, korean govenment had to privatise a lot of govenment enterprises.

    Korea suffered from the financial crisis due to the lack of US Dollar holdings. the japanese govenment did try to lend dollars to Korean government due to the fear of the ripple effect. Then what happened?. Cliton steppend in and said ” no, no Nakamura san, this is my game. Step back”.

    According to one of the articles from Joesph Stiglitz, the American govenment gaind $80 billion within a year and then $200 billion between 1997 and 2002 as a result of the financial crisis in Asia.
    Everyone knows that the financial crisis in Asia strenghed US dollar.

    The Country’s economic system has been completely changed since then.
    Destrction of the middle class.

  136. illinois brandon, were doomed if we let the banksters do what they want to do. Which is lower the population(its a guess how they’ll do that), and they want to crash all financial systems and set up a digital financial system that they can track and control. New world order.

    The banksters problem now is. WE know who alot of them are.

  137. If sovereign debt crisis looms won’t GOLD be used to pay some of this debt off, thus cleaning out countries of their gold holdings in central banks?
    Where will this gold go?
    To China or will it end up with the IMF?
    If it ends up in China they are the next super power, if it ends up with the IMF then they have Gold backing their new world currency.
    Just an idea, IMF and world bank play the ownership of Africa and South American countries via debt, now they maybe they will own the world via debt.
    Its like a massive mafia, you cannot leave the system once you owe money. You must play by the creditors rules.

  138. mini us, your playing by the rules. You’ve got to learn the banksters don’t play by the rules.

  139. The Underfundedmentalist

    @mini us
    If it ends up in China they are the next super power, if it ends up with the IMF then they have Gold backing their new world currency.
    That seems to be the $64 question.
    Where is the gold?

  140. Cyber Security Act passed. You can be assured that that banana republic fascist african dictator has a clear intention to snuff all freedom of speech. Yeah Obanaaane is quite a total piece of brownshirt manure. A true blooded nazi. Indeed. And Ronron read the fuckin law. It’s quite quite quite clear. Censure and control of the internet à la Nazi Germany and à la Chineese.

    http://fascistsoup.com/2010/02/04/cyber-security-act-passes-criminal-congress/

  141. The Underfundedmentalist

    @marc arthuier
    it was nice bloggin’ with ya.
    I think the ptb know that when they shut down the internet the unemployed masses will finally hit the streeets, i have to believe they are prepared.

  142. Individual Banks will raise rates no matter what Central Bank does in Australia.

    http://www.smh.com.au/business/rates-set-to-jump-regardless-of-rba-experts-20100208-nlsy.html

  143. So from now on, you will soon need a license to post a comment on the internet. A license ?

    So let’s say if you are Max Keiser and you accuse Wall Street and Ciy criminals of being robbers and terrorists, by order of the CIA, Uncle Sam will simply remove your license. Same thing for ALL of US.

    Yeah Obama is quite a piece of fascist shit. Must say it before the law comes into effect. It shouldn’t take long. Theses CIA nazis will go at it gradually. One by one.
    One day you will type maxkieser and the famous page not found ERROR 404 will appear. You are warned. USA is NOW a country runned by nazis.

  144. wow they did pass the cyber internet thing.

    Fraggin gestapo.

  145. It’s clear. It’s about KILLING freedom of speech, KILLING freedom of opinion, and KILLING blogs, KILLING alternative media and KILLING any source of information that doesn’t respect the official agenda. Like in Nazi Germany.

  146. The Underfundedmentalist

    shall we start another internet then?

  147. I am sure that your site Max and Stacy is on their priority list to be closed and censured. Sure. Enjoy freedoom while it last because Obama is the real mean stufff. The enemy of liberty is the US government. More and more. It has nothing to do with “security”.

    It’s about assasinating liberty, murdering democracy and killing the soul. The wholesale destruction of not just the economy but liberty as you know it. One day you will wake up and you will be effectively in Nazi Germany. Naturally the trick is to implement everything gradually. It’s working like a cinch. “It’s for your security.”

  148. marc authier., that and that the powers that be don’t want any alternative view points of things other than what they want people to know. Gestapo brave new world.

    nOtice when they passed it. When most stupid americans are watching the super bowl. The nazi’s are smart ashholes.

  149. @Underfundedmentalist
    Remember the BBS ? the bulletin board system.

    Yes. Eventually we will have to when the repression will start. If you live in the USA you will anyways probably end up in FEMA Obanana reeducation camp. You have to understand that they are putting in place, like the Patriot Act, the FEMA camps, the Homeland Security, the naked body scanners and cyber security gradually. They will implement their plan gradually.

  150. I’m watching the game. So I guess I’m one of the very stupid americans.

    Most americans don’t have a clue. I don’t think they ever will.

  151. The Underfundedmentalist

    @jon
    i’m multi-taskin’ too
    good game no?
    whoops its over
    go saints

  152. @jon
    Well. What can say. Pray ? and don’t despair. Personnally I am almost glad seing the USA going bankrupt. Like Max said the other. China Iran and Russia just have to push on a botton and unload all this paper and the EMPIRE is finished. I really hope it will happen before it’s too late. Yeah DEPRESSION usually is most of the followed by DICTATORSHIP. DEPRESSION DICTATORSHIP and DEATH. The 3 D’s.

  153. Your are under the control of the FCC Max and Stacy. Ain’t that quaint ?

  154. The Underfundedmentalist

    @ma
    They’re calling it ‘saftey’ here. Even the cop cars are painted with the slogan
    ‘Safety first’, no more ‘to protect and serve’ rhetoric. It boils the frog all the same.
    I took my liberty before being served death.
    Few among us realize what awaits.

  155. @Underfundedmentalist
    GAME OVER for the internet too. Like I said It will be gradual. These bastards do everything by small steps. You have to see Washington as big rat eating away at your democracy and destroying everything what’s left of your savings, your jobs, your health and your liberty. GAME OVER for the internet and freedom of speech.

  156. The Underfundedmentalist

    @marc
    I figured this brief interlude of fine radical minds would only last so long,
    either by brain devolution, or corruption.
    The free spirit of open discourse is the ultimate threat to those who operate in the dark.

  157. In the past when Rep of Ireland was under Uk control speaking the Irish language was punishable by prison and any organising or gathering was again punishable by very
    strong measures. Any speech critiscising the system To get past the bans people wrote poetry and songs wher ethey replaced the word Ireland Eireann with a girls name eg An Chulainn etc. The escaping slaves of the American South also had a series of songs which was used to map out the underground railway.
    So shall it be Max and Stacy The Musical?

  158. Hope you have a game plan to fight. This country will soon be hell on earth. As scary as Nazi Germany or the USSR. Hope you have a game plan.

  159. Marc authier, don’t know what to say. But “don’t tread on me”.

  160. Max and Stacy The Musical is definitely a runner,we already know max can sing now it ‘s your turn Stacy!I can give Max a few singing lessons.
    Remember the old Irish rebel songs and the ones where they replaced the word Ireland Eireann with a girl’s name so they wouldn’t be executed or deported for subversive behaviour!
    ‘Come all ye folk and listen to my tale. Goldmann’s greedy bankers are too big to fail…..because the people wont enter the fray, they’ll rob them blind day after day,
    next verse please someone?

  161. The “don’t tread on me” was what the fathers of the constitution made a point of.

    Obviously the facists have taken control of the usa. Most americans don’t have a clue. Just give us cheap gas so we can drive around and we’ll accept anything the facists want from us. Sad , very sad.

  162. The problem Jon is that it’s your own government that intends to “thread on you”. It has nothing to do with long bearded terrorist in a cave in Afghanistan. It’s about threading on you and treating you as a “potential terrorist” to protect the Wall Street, the FED crooks, the media monopolists, the big business, and all the parasites feeding upon the taxpayers. And the treason is coming from your elected offiicials. It’s about totally destroying and raping ALL of your Constitution. Just to give as a pretext that’s it’s for national security and you can rape, torture and even kill US citizens. It’s a nice formula but the danger is YOUR GOVERNMENT. Your democracy and your constitution and YOUR righys are being destroyed by YOUR government, not by a foreign enemy. It’s exactly the same context as in Nazi Germany. No diffierence. Really. As the economic crisis deepens, you can be assured that Nazi Germany is the Pentagon and the CIA game plan. Remember this film.

    THE SIEGE.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Siege

    That’s what your rullng class Republican bastards and Democrat bastards have in mind for you Jon. This film is scary. It’s almost Copy of the last 10 years of hell in the USA and the rest of the world. The scenario is almost the same. More subtle and slow in the real world but if the scenario seems familiar, it is.
    Your US constitution is just a piece of used toilet paper for your ruling class. They wipe the ass with it on a regular basis. Just read the supreme court judgements and all the neo-nazis HR laws voted EACH week.

    You are under siege Jon, and it’s the US government that is the enemy of the people in 2010. Ben Laden that joke is US government employee. Always was.

  163. marc authier, most folks know that. but the usa govenment is now owned by the banksters and nazi facists. It actually has been for decades now. But they now are starting big time their agenda of world domination.

    I just wish some nicer folks were gonna take over the world.

  164. Justget Itright

    @MA__it’s your own government that intends to “thread on you”.

    I have to agree with you, they watch everything they can. From what I am learning this has been going on for a long time, but with technology, the gov can see where the money is. That is what they really want to control. I feel like America is sliding down a sewer hole.

  165. Oct-Dec 2009 gold sales under Central Bank Gold Agreement? Zero, nada, none http://bit.ly/9kY13v. Sellers on strike, China must dig.

  166. The Underfundedmentalist

    to es
    ‘Come all ye folk and listen to my tale. Goldmann’s greedy bankers are too big to fail…..because the people wont enter the fray, they’ll rob them blind day after day,
    and as they go into the camps
    one by one,
    which was said, ‘couldn’t be done’,
    they will whistle with glee,
    and shout how they are free,
    untill incarcerated they become,
    every last one.

  167. justget itright, whats happening now is its sliding down the sewer hole of facism alot faster. Thats why were picking up on it. As you said. They’ve been chipping away at the usa government for years on taking it over. Now the corporate nazi’s have enough people in place that they can do what they want.

    The sad thing is. Most of the american people still don’t have a clue. Thats the problem. Its amazing how stupid americans are. Its as if they were bred to be this stupid. Which could be the case.

  168. The Underfundedmentalist

    @ dan v
    I knew they weren’t makin’ delivery with the bullion, why would the privately owned central banks give up their ace in the hole? They play for keeps.

  169. @jon
    Old Nazi proverb: “Nice guys finish in the concentration camps.”
    Old Communist proverb: “Nice guys finish in the gulag.”

    Yeah these bastards are preparing a country and a world that will ressemble to a gulad or a Nazi concentration camp. You start by destroying the economy and the jobs, And then you introduce the body scanners, the biometric shit, the prison grid and all that silencing of public opinion. Obama but also the other gang are pure blood Nazis. They are.

    I know “Nice guys finish last.” But hey I believe in God and paradise for the Just,
    It’s not a f–ker from the Pentagon or a nazi killer from the CIA that will silence me. Never. You better wake in the United States. It’s probably too late. Don’t worry. We have in Canada the same type of bastards. It took 48 hours for Stephan Harper to impose us your damn naked body scanners. This is freakin nightmare.

  170. cit group picks john thain to be new ceo….lol

  171. Justget Itright

    @jon__Its as if they were bred to be this stupid. Which could be the case.

    I live east of New York City and north of Philadelphia. I agree, that we are schooled to be stupid. With breeding, one is a product of their environment. The educational system here in the states is designed to keep kids dumbed down, TV is another tool of suppression with debt-like compliance. We are screwed. I have decided to unplug as much as possible and try to enjoy the limited time I have left. Still I luv to keep up with this site and stir up the people about how clueless they are … just enjoy the shit out of this :)

  172. Justget Itright

    did not mean to say folks here are clueless (folks here are aware of the bull shit) … meant the people I meet and talk to are the folks that i enjoy rousing.

  173. It is, nonetheless, comforting to know that our well endowed roving financial correspondent, Max, will still go about ‘pimpin’ a fantastically pro-America image, strolling up and down the Champs Elysee in that stylish fuzzy purple hat, at least ’till they confiscate his gold chains.

    Speaking of chains, according to de Villpin, the 4 currencies of France are: Liberty, Equality, Fraternity and Complicity.

    No wonder there is such a vibrant underground world economy.

  174. IMF’s Latest Moves…The IMF has been busy issuing SDRs and planning gold sales. Jim Rickards, of Omnis, discusses what this could mean for the dollar

    http://www.cnbc.com/id/15840232?video=1216952516&play=1

  175. Will John Thain renovate his offices for a couple of million bucks like he did a couple of weeks before almost declaring bankruptcy at Merril Lynch.
    Obeeeeeeeyma agrees. Good move. Thain will be receiving generous bonuses for his great expertise in running but mostly ruining Merrill Lynch. The more incompetent you are, the bigger the bonus and promotion. Banana banking.

  176. The Underfundedmentalist

    Talk to a 20 something and you’ll see corporate think tanking 1st hand. Of course the masses are taught that thinking is subversive, how else to convince a world that fear is safer than knowledge.
    Bin Laden is dead, but his corporate sponsors are immortal.
    Welcome to Karl Roveia!

  177. California Doctor

    @underfundedmentalist -

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnUKurl7Fog

    Speaking of the hard times…. here’s one of Coke’s commercials seen tonight by hundreds of millions watching the Super Bowl tonight.

    For those outside the US and unfamiliar with the Simpson’s cartoon- the Simpsons just celebrated 20 years on the TV. It is one of Fox TV’s breakthroughs which lead Fox to establish itself as the fourth major TV network after having CBS, NBC, and ABC having 60 years of triopoly over broadcast radio and Tv.

    Burns was the CEO of the nuclear power plant where Homer Simpson works/worked. At one point, Burns gets shot in a parody of the “who Shot JR” episode of Dallas.

  178. @Stacy and Max
    Better check in the coming days and hours if your site has been from New-Zealand, Australia, USA, Italy and Canada from certain internet providers ? The Chineese Wall, the USA Soviet Iron curtain is coming down on the world. They already started.

    Maybe you will be put on the anti-bankers hate list. It will soon be strictly forbidden de denounce or critizise bankers and the finance crooks ruining the place. Check if they have started shutting you down.

  179. Here’s the ballad of the Banksters

    Come all ye folk and listen to my tale,
    Goldmann Banker’s are too big to fail,
    Because the people wont enter the fray,
    They’ll rob them blind day after day.

    They borrow the money at zero percent,
    to play the markets is their intent,
    Sure they get bailed out when the money’s all spent,
    And when you’ve lost your home they’ll charge you to rent.

    Now those bankers are a wily lot
    If you pas s the door sure you’ll smell the rot
    Of illegal, bloody wars and a central plot
    To rule the world and steal all you got.

    Come on more verses folk!

  180. The Underfundedmentalist

    another american genius sold down the river,
    matt groening’s ‘life in hell’ comic strip was printed in my highschool paper,
    now he sells coke,
    if coke is a person now, what country does it pledge allegiance to?

  181. What happens if the Greeks, the Portugeese, the Irish, the Ukrainians, the Hungarians, the Spaniards, the Latvvians, etc……. decide to do the same thing as the people from Iceland ? Is such a scenario possible ? It’s not really a rhethorical question. I really think that there is a real possibility of seing exactly this scenario unfolding.

  182. @Underfundedmentalist
    Coke pledges allegeance to Tony Montano and bubbles.

  183. Geithner Says U.S. Will ‘Never’ Lose Its Top Aaa Debt Rating

    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=ahGwg7V3u3Gs

    What a relief. Geithner wouldn’t lie . . . would he?

  184. No joke: South Carolina now requires ’subversives’ to register

    http://rawstory.com/2010/02/south-carolinas-subversive-activities-registration-act-force/

    Thank the lord jeebus I’m a subversive from Florida.

  185. Pressure grows to use bingo as revenue source

    http://www.gadsdentimes.com/article/20100206/NEWS/100209893/1016

    Fricken Max said this s@#t would happen. He’s right more than he’s wrong.

  186. California Doctor

    For our friends outside the US and as an retrospective for MaxKeiser devotees:

    There is a special place in my heart for great marketing campaigns. These marketing campaigns often reflect the times and era which spouts the advertisement.

    Youtube seems to have become a wonderful repository for these commercials.

    Since Reagan seems to have come up tonight, I would like to remind those who were not following the campaign of 1984 of the two ads which brought about his landslide victory. One was the Bear Ad and the other was called Morning in America. Both commercials were stunningly successful in their propaganda value. Not only did the commercials remind Americans of the struggle but it also set up the victory scenario of the Cold War.

    The Bear Commercial was to set up the Soviet Union and Russians as the “enemy”.

    Bear Commercial – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpwdcmjBgNA

    Morning in America was to play off of the fears from the 1970′s inflation. Reagan’s early first term was an economic disaster but military spending put the nation on a war footing.

    Morning in America – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EU-IBF8nwSY

    Take a look at the Reagan Campaign commercial from 1984 called “Train” – “Leadership that’s working”.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwahxXNDrrI

    And, here’s a commercial on inflation-
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O364Qnwd7v8

    The stark contrast between this particular era of political commercials and the current global economic destruction is stunning.

    Tonight, on Bloomberg TV in the US, the Japanese finance minister was shown making a comment at the G7 summit. He says that before leaving Tokyo the opposition party was asking difficult and tough questions. And, upon concluding the meeting, he is looking forwards to going dog sledding and getting as close to the North Pole as possible.

    ROTFL

    I guess he must have felt decidely cold at the meeting. LOL… It’s hardly an economic thaw or morning in America.

  187. California Doctor

    @Dan II – South Carolina Subversives.

    Since the state requires subversives to register, does “subversive” include AWOL governors who flee to Argentina for sex with his mistress?

    ROTFL… the entire legislature, all judges, and all state officers should be the first to register. After all, their inability to appropriately reflect the spirit and intent of the US constitution is obvious when Argentinian interests are placed ahead of Americans.

  188. The Underfundedmentalist

    @es lyrics, here’s the best i’ve heard
    “Efficiency and progress is ours once more
    Now that we have the Neutron bomb
    It’s nice and quick and clean and gets things done
    Away with excess enemy
    But no less value to property
    No sense in war but perfect sense at home:

    The sun beams down on a brand new day
    No more welfare tax to pay
    Unsightly slums gone up in flashing light
    Jobless millions whisked away
    At last we have more room to play
    All systems go to kill the poor tonight

    Gonna
    Kill kill kill kill Kill the poor:Tonight

    Behold the sparkle of champagne
    The crime rate’s gone
    Feel free again
    O’ life’s a dream with you, Miss Lily White
    Jane Fonda on the screen today
    Convinced the liberals it’s okay
    So let’s get dressed and dance away the night

    While they:
    Kill kill kill kill Kill the poor:Tonight
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgpa7wEAz7I
    not bad for the seventies eh?

  189. John Thain is no longer unemployed; CIT scooped him up:

    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aJVc2Wkj.KfI&pos=1

    @ California Doctor – Speaking of sex scandals involving politicians, prepare for another round of scandal to hit the news tomorrow. Seems that even with New York State going the way of California, Gov. Paterson couldn’t keep it in his pants and is expected to announce his resignation. How embarrassing for NY. The dude appointed to finish out Spitzer’s scandal-induced resignation couldn’t even finish out Spitzer’s term and make it to election day without having a scandal of his own.

  190. @CalDoc

    Re: subversives

    What does is say about a government that requires a person who works secretly to over throw a government to register with the government.

    To me it says: there is hope yet.

  191. @CalDoc

    re: subversives

    addendum: I’m disqualified as I am out in the open. I want this government gone. I want this government replaced with people who will adhere to the rule of law. I want that law to be or resemble the original intent of the founding fathers. Lets start with inalienable rights.

  192. The Underfundedmentalist

    @dan II
    didn’t they used to call that being a registered lobbiest?

    how exactly is one subversive in a democracy?

  193. @The Underfundedmentalist

    A lobbyist employs the inherent corruption of the system. A subversive attempts utilize methods unknown to the system.

  194. Goldman Sachs investment advice to Americans: be more worldly in your investments.

    How is it not subversive for Government Sachs to propose overthrowing America in favor of foreign markets? Anti- ‘merican banksters!

  195. Old version of the 1st Amendment.

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

    New Obanana/Bushit version

    Shut the f–k up or you lose your internet access. And if we find you are a “terrorist”, we will stiff you. Bamboola third world dictatorship. Yeap. The new constitution is inspired by the Robert Mugabé and the new Zimbabwean constitution. Like in Irak. Like in Africa. Like in China. Like in Zimbabwe.

    You can kiss goodbye and adios to your 1st amendment. Zimbabwean monetary policy and zimbabwean constitution. Third world super power runned effectively like a african dicatatorship. Yeap. It’s sad to sad but it’s that. Don’t like Africa ? Why not try North Korea or Indonesia ?

  196. @Mep

    Subversive is secret by nature. Goldman’s open declarations do not qualify. No doubt Goldman’s seek to mold the world to their benefit. It is the agenda that they pursue quietly that I worry about.

  197. @ Dan

    It must be called the “Subversive Activities Registration Act” because the “Sedition Act” was already taken.

  198. @ Dan – I saw it as them being subversive in their language; advising ordinary Americans to invest in foreign markets is just another way of advising that they abandon ‘merica. Pretty funny when you think about it: they’ve rigged and fucked the markets so badly that they, themselves, are advising people to invest elsewhere. You’re right, though; I worry about what they’re doing in the shadows, too.

  199. @Sherri Young

    Don’t you love how Acts are couched?

    Patriot Act
    Cyber Security Act

  200. @ Giuseppe Bagodonutti

    Thanks very much for the correct website.

    There is another person on this blog with the name ES and it’s not me…in fact my previous messages wouldn’t post…what happened to my identity on Max Keiser.com? Somebody took it from me…darn…

  201. The Sedition Act was a gift to America by that little fascist . . . oops, Founding Father, John Adams.

  202. Ok, now my name is Madmoiselle Maupin instead of ES.

  203. The Underfundedmentalist

    To all you libs out there, -itarians and -erals alike,
    how did you miss these guys back in the day?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtnBdr_GXZY
    other priorities, as cheney put it, I presume?
    I guess in this revolution,
    you can’t trust anyone UNDER thirty, how ironic is that?
    subvert now
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOOu8cFzypc&feature=PlayList&p=BBDA7616B7C7108F&index=0&playnext=1
    And it all went quiet in the city
    And the wind blew down the road
    Someone cried out “Subvert”
    And the people all went cold

    Subvert, subvert, subvert, SUBVERT

    Meanwhile back in Subvert City
    Someone’s writing on the wall
    “Fuck the government” spray-paint hero
    Someone wants the state to fall
    Religious dogma crucified
    Ritual slaughter, no one lied
    Living standards were dying morals
    A state-controlled mass suicide

    The dying breed of Subvert City
    Crept into the underground
    The state police just left them there
    Blocked the holes, and gassed them down
    Ten years later they emerged
    Mutated minds so full of hate
    Tried again to change the system
    But this time round it was too late
    There was no system left to change
    The people ran the entire land
    The subverts became politiciand
    And finally got the upper hand

    Meanwhile back in Subvert City
    Someone’s writing on the wall
    “Fuck the government” spray-paint hero
    But in Subvert City, it’s subvert rule

    Subvert, subvert, subvert, subvert

  204. next acts to come. The government will decide if you have the right to bear arms. And then the next act will be. Everyone has to share everything they have. In other words. Confiscation. Then the act that you can’t own anything. Land, merchandise. Then the camps. Then the slave labor camps.

    But keep smiling and voting.

  205. It must be called the “Subversive Activities Registration Act” because the “Sedition Act” was already taken.

    Is Ben Laden and the people from the Mossad and the CIA registered there ?

    They should. Anyways your bosses will finish by being all from China. I am surprised that Obanana hasn’t sold the White House to a communist general from the red army ? China has now 2500 billion reserves. Quite a phenomenal atomic bomb to yiels against the USA. You can thank Bushie and naturally Obanana for this terrible situation.

    You can see this 2500 billion dollars as mega White House bunker blaster. If for example the US tries to cut oil access from Iran boom ! The 2,5 trillon can be dropped anytime. It’s much more effecient than an army when you think of it.

    Most US agencies should register. Ouuppps I forgot the FED.

  206. @Mep – “subversive in their language”

    Good point. If you’re not savvy to the motives, you will miss the intent.

  207. dan 2, thats the game, the paid liars know that the people are conditioned to believe alot of what they are told. So they lie and then do the opposite. But the public just keeps saying. Well it could be worse.

    Eventually. Very soon. Its gonna be really worse. The stupid public is gonna be taken to the cleaners very soon. But as it is now. They haver thier toasters and indoor bathrooms. Why complain.

    The public is bought off. They’ll over look every thing as long as they have an indoor toilet.

  208. believe me. All my relatives who have suucked dildos all their lives think as long as they don’t rock the boat they’ll at least get to have a good american kind of life. They’re conditioned to the max. The governemnt tellls them to talk like a parrot and they’ll talk like a parrot. Just give us our crackers master. Conditioning. Screwl system and all. The powers that be have done a good job at dumbing down and conditioning the weak of heart and mind.

  209. California Doctor

    @Dan II – Geithner and AAa rating for the UST’s-

    Did Timmy G. bribe Moodys and SnP?

    The fact that they haven’t done criminal perp walks on BOTH grading services is payment enough?

    @ Y’all – And about Coke – they are an international entity which lacks any nationality. Therefore, they have no allegiance to any nation. Their goal is to cooperate with all and Make the World Drink a Coke.

    For those anti-Coke folks on this blog – you can spout anger, but unless you can figure a positive image that beats this stuff, you will lose your propaganda campaign. I’m not saying the facts are wrong, but the American people need to be swayed using a “positive” and “loving” approach.

    Here’s the start of the Coke campaign that changed the minds of the world.

    America’s soul and the soul of the planet will move upon universal messages which sharing experiences. The reason this “Hill Top Ad” commercial is so powerful is that it was released during the height of the Vietnam War while the US was lobbing bombs on the peasants of Vietnam and Cambodia and in recent memory of Korea, WW2, and WW1 veterans in old age.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8H5263jCGg&feature=related

    Coke then followed about ten years later with this Christmas remake around 1980 (ten years later):
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zCsFvVg0UY

    Ten years after that, Coke redid the original Coke Hill Top Ad. This commercial has to handle the public relations debacle that Coke created for itself when it tossed out the “Original” recipe and created New Coke. The brand was attempting to match the smoother taste of Pepsi on taste tests. Instead, it found out that it killed its own sales and needed to bring back the “old” coke. The commercial was done in 1990.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1SCYBgBUyE

    Lest you think I’m being jingoistic with this posting and the prior, take a look at this Coke Ad from China. The theme doesn’t need an English translation. The label says it all and so does the scene. Most guys and girls have been in this specific situation, regardless of where you are on the planet.

    BTW, the word “wei” is “hello”, but you can already figure that out.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANfFwFqTS9o

    OR, this one from the Phillippines – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ourx95ng5uk

    This one from the United Kingdom –
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_uq20yeuig
    What is particularly poignant of this commercial is that it was released in 1986. Basically, the children in this commercial are likely to be the very people who have been tossed from their flats, homes, and apartments in the international capital destruction. The future of the world and nation has been squandered by the bankers who have destroyed that future in their own mountain of debt.

    This blog is testimony to the mythology of capitalism in its former incarnation.

    But, we need to move to not only close out control by groups like Bildeberg and their corporate arms. These arms have hands which strangle us financially and choke our futures while we eat their foods and drink their mass produced canned goods.

    @Stacy – You may want to consider linking creative talents internationally to move an international populist agenda which is encourages personal liberty, economic liberty, freedom of expression, and shows great heart and promise.

    These ads should focus on an international populist agenda which corrects the “credit” driven system in favor of actual pay for goods and services.

  210. LMAO White House covered in snowmageddon
    Cant wait ta see Max’s face
    ROFL
    Hic ;-)

  211. ‘Snowmageddon’ blankets Mid-Atlantic in white
    Storm could be the biggest for the nation’s capital in modern history

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35237043/ns/weather/

    Can we End Man made climate change now ?????
    Maxy boy
    Hic ;-)

  212. The Underfundedmentalist

    @cal quack
    ‘And about Coke – they are an international entity which lacks any nationality. Therefore, they have no allegiance to any nation. Their goal is to cooperate with all and Make the World Drink a Coke.’
    yes and now they have 1st amendment rights a la supreme court.
    Rights without duty? and you frown on illegal aliens? whom actually pay taxes they will never see the benefit from, unless of course they can work for an illegal employer who pays them under the table, tax evasion all around, isn’t that treason?
    And some suggest big business hates big government, with justice like this, who needs friends, or a coke, or a smile.

  213. Or are ya gonna continue with Al Gore n feces
    Hic ;-)
    rubbing it in now could’nt resist
    ROFL

  214. @Bonn
    It gets even better Bonn. After the snowmageddon they expect a deep freezageddon in Washington DC. I’m lovin it. They should take Al Gore naked and plunge the prick in the Potomac. What a fantastic photo op it would make. Al Gore froze his balls in the Potomac while warning global warming would roast everyone. I’m a polar bear. Love cold. The colder the better specially in Englanf and USA. I’m lovin it !

  215. The Underfundedmentalist

    @bonn
    where you been slim
    i’ve been waiting for an excuse to crack open one more beer!

  216. Peeps Wake up Maxy n Stacey
    New Zealand is getting Cybersecurity they cant access infowars
    Listenin to Alex Jones
    Hic ;-)

  217. @Bonn

    I chose option A long ago. I looked at the science even before the revelations of fraud were exposed.

  218. Hic waky waky waky waky wakey up
    STACY MAX Keiser
    WAKE UP WAKE UP
    I was right
    Peeps Wake up Maxy n Stacey
    New Zealand is getting Cybersecurity they cant access infowars
    Listenin to Alex Jones
    Hic
    ;-)

  219. And if they ban Alex Jones, they will ban Max Keiser site. Good point Bonn.

  220. California Doctor

    About those illegal aliens “Underfundedmentalist” – I am troubled that the US Government does not do a better job controling cross border movement.

    Population has impact on economics.

    While I am opposed to strict limitations on the movement of people, I am also opposed to the absence of correlation between services and people.

    The illegals neither pay payroll taxes nor property taxes. Yet, the US citizens who pay those taxes continue to be harmed by the load of illegals on the healthcare, law enforcement, court, and administrative systems.

    If you are not familiar with these things, I can ennumerate them.

  221. Exactly the reason y I am askin ‘em to wake up
    MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
    SACCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCEYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
    WAKE UP
    Hic ;-)
    wats ta time in Moscow?????

  222. So many failed policies. Too much free and open discussion. Rectification is paramount. Information must be contained. Web shut down in

    3

    2

    1

    hello . . . anyone there?

  223. Hic ;-)
    Luckily I know ta truth
    man USA Canada China Newzealand
    Hic ;-)

  224. The Underfundedmentalist

    Well fellow subverts, dissidents, xenophobes, radicals, misfits, cyber-troobadoors, polemetic poets, freelance provocateurs, and good old joe bags of mayhem, I bid ye all well if our lines of communication should come to some abrupt hault. Thank you max and espcially stace, for the forum to frolic in the unabashed wisdom and follie of these curent times. I for one shall sorely miss our moments of miscued meshugana.

  225. @ Stacey
    I told ya 2 weeks back
    it may have been a Beta testing of cybersecurity
    Hic ;-)

  226. And ya guys just started advertising
    Hic ;-)

  227. @California Doctor
    The lack of control for the illegals is intentionnal. The government, the bunch of Nazis criminals in Washington and Wall Street want to destroy the US middle class. What better strategy that to put the middle classe by putting them in competition with people that are ready to work for nothing. It’s the plan. Divide and conquer. It’s part of the plan doctor. Once the middle classe exterminated by all means, you can eliminate democracy without any problems.

  228. @The Underfundedmentalist
    Cheers Hic ;-)
    Was watchin Indiana Jones last night it was commin on HBO
    So was missin yesterday
    Hic ;-)

  229. The Underfundedmentalist

    caldoc
    ‘I am troubled that the US Government does not do a better job controling cross border movement.’
    Try crossing the boarder with $10,000 in cash in any direction and you will find that your govt. is paying close attention to all movement. What’s so illegal about immigration, they don’t hire themselves, and to think of all the businesses that do and pretend they don’t, and pocket the tax. And what services are these ‘illegals’ getting, emergency rooms, oh our nuclear shield? Did you say you lived in San Carlos, or was it San Ramon, Martinez?
    I can’t remember, San Diego, San Francisco, San Pedro, Ignacio, Corte Madera,
    Los Angeles, Santa Monica, Pescadero, Santa Cruz, San Anselmo, San Leandro
    San Juan Batista, La Jolla, Santa Barbara, San Mateo, Palo Alto or was it Paso Robles? Qutoas doc? You seem like a constitutionalist but I don’t remember any immigrant quotas in THAT document. They came latter with the alien sedition act and earlier with the chinese prohibitions. Slavery was replaced by ‘illegal immigration’, that is why you were able to go to medical school, had your parents had to pay a living wage to famers for you to grow up on vegetables, you would have gone to vocational school. The whole new world economy has been based on slavery of one form or another since it’s discovery by the west. Illegal employers are a reality, illegal citizenry is a concept of radical statism. And I thought you hated the govt. doc.

  230. Wonder what will happen to sites like the ones coming from Russia. Will we be able to listen to Russia Today ? Your country Max and Stacy is becoming a nazi country. These bastards want to eliminate any truth about the markets and the generalized corruption of Washington that cesspool of shit and Wall Street. I have like a feeling that Russia Today will also be put on Obanana republic black list. Disgusting law. Disgusting NAZI New World Order.

  231. The Underfundedmentalist

    the internet was created by the military for the military,
    that we have been able to use it thusly albeit brifely,
    does not bode well for any legacy we might have forthcomming

  232. Oh by the way expect your european politicians to adopt the same Nazis laws concerning the internet. Shut them up. Scand them, Ruin them. Open a file on them. And them exterminate them. That’s about what I think that the globalists these Nazis neo-cons are planning. Europe will NOT, I repeat NOT a safe heaven. Enjoy Russia Today while it last.

  233. The Underfundedmentalist

    @ma
    I have a feeling that somehow the safest place to be in times like these might be in the recently failed states. Where war has subsided for a least a decade, but no more than 35 years since some kind of unrest, so as the people know better.

  234. Phil /Germany

    Former Intel Exec May Plead Guilty in Insider Trading Case

    …According to published reports, Rajiv Goel, ormer Intel treasury department manager, d plead guilty as soon as Feb. 8. Goel reportedly waived indictment, a necessary step before pleading guilty. Goel was among more than 20 people charged in the insider trading scheme, which prosecutors say generated more than $20 million in illegal gains.

    Rest at:

    http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Desktops-and-Notebooks/Former-Intel-Exec-May-Plead-Guilty-in-Insider-Trading-Case-435535/

    Well, no surprises here … business as usual.

    A small slap on the wrist probably … like hat 100 mio$ back-dated Options deal that Jobs did … he got just a small warning !
    Puke !

  235. The Underfundedmentalist

    @bonn
    we’ll always have paris…
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UC8Zrtah1AQ

    f to the b to the i
    c to the i to the a
    what the fuck do you need next!
    just another line up,
    in the fucked up matrix.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sTrl5cEa6c&feature=related

  236. Republic Versus Democracy – Ron Paul Speech in U.S. Congress

    http://www.c-spanvideo.org/congress/?q=node/77531&appid=5961

  237. Phil /Germany

    Lisbon Treaty powers in play .. on Greece

    Article 121 @3:10

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnmYuieuz5Y&feature=sub

    A little BTW … “The Trap” by James Goldsmith, mentions that Germany are leaders in GATT etc. – saying that this is a massive mistake, especially for Germany.
    .. still reading.

  238. Phil /Germany

    @Bonn .. NZ banning AJ ?
    Link ?

  239. The Underfundedmentalist

    Good Night and Good luck fellow subverts
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQi2ANZA_as

  240. Paypal suspends transactions to and from India.. why and does this signal somathing about the underlying bank infrastructure? http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35280841/ns/business-world_business/

  241. Bottlenose bankers high frequency feeding.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQ50PYMXDCQ

  242. The Underfundedmentalist:

    Yep, like many of these neo-libs, Campbell is clearly a war criminal. Yet rather than be all bullish (as he was previously when he felt untouchable) he now resorts to tears in the hope that he can manufacture some form of sympathy vote. I bet he spent the rest of the day reviewing some video of his performance to guage how realistic his ‘sorrow’ appeared.

  243. ahahahahh no not me , he wish.

  244. @Max & Stacy before the Kremlin Gremlin – 7 centigrade Is too warm for ya guys. Dogs were all eat’n during WOII ;)

    Gold is like Rocky, they beat him up but he keeps coming back.

  245. Corporate borrowing costs are rising at the fastest pace in more than two months on concern that worsening government finances will slow the global economy and make it harder for companies to meet debt payments. http://tinyurl.com/ye8da2p

  246. Treasury will sell $2.43 trillion in notes and bonds this year, a 16% increase from the record $2.1 trillion sold in 2009. Since the end of 2007, outstanding Treasury debt has risen 60% to $7.27 trillion. The administration of President Barack Obama forecast the U.S. budget deficit will reach $1.6 trillion for fiscal 2010 after a record $1.4 trillion shortfall in 2009. http://tinyurl.com/yhdcn7w

  247. No Job Growth for Small Business Spurs Recovery Doubt http://tinyurl.com/yblzyvm

  248. @ Phil /Germany
    Log onto Infowars.com
    And hear his daily post
    http://www.infowars.com/
    Listen to the Sunday Edition of Alex’s nationally syndicated broadcast, a round-up of the week past and the one ahead from 4:00 — 6:00 PM CST

  249. @ Stacey
    Surely ya guys must be up
    Hic ;-)

  250. @ Max
    Why dont ya get in touch with New Zealand boys
    and see if they can access Infowars
    Or do I hafta do It through Facebook
    Hic ;-)
    If true ya’ll hafta do an Emergency broadcast
    ;-) hic

  251. Anybody know any Kiwis
    Hic ;-)

  252. Dollar is as valuable now as 35 years ago.

    There’s no alternative to the dollar as reserve currency.

    Budget Office expects America’s debt to reach 65% of GDP in 2010, that would still be below the 77% of GDP the European Commission expects for Germany, the U.K.’s 80% and Japan’s 180%. The ratio of debt to GDP in the U.S. will continue to expand, reaching 76.5% in 2019.http://tinyurl.com/yaccgsq

  253. I would think the panic button would be being pressed
    Hic ;-)
    Private Bankers meeting in Austrailya

  254. Randgold profit more than triples http://tinyurl.com/yhlvuv6

  255. ECB rate hike probably won’t start until 2011 cause of sovereign stress, liquidity exit, and weak money growth http://tinyurl.com/yd3oza4

  256. frances snoot

    ” Personnally I am almost glad seing the USA going bankrupt.”

    A popular idea here: but ill thought to gain any advantage for anyone. The IMF is planning on separating the currencies from trade profit. When the USA goes ‘bankrupt’ (bankrupt as in the corporate governance of the people, not the military war machine mind you) the sdr will reweight and the shares look to be so diluted that most countries will enter the third world via a neutered domestic currency.

    What if I posted “I can’t wait for Canada to hit the shits?” Oh, I forgot. America is the scapegoat country: Americans are the people to diss. Oh, and we can throw in the piigs as well. But not the Canadians!

    Absolute hypocrisy. Why don’t the ‘commonwealth countries’ reign in their corrupt royals? I would think a bit of tax paid by those louts would do the world of good. Oh, we aren’t suppose to notice the sovereign wealth?

    Marc, you should. The sovereigns have access to the sdr.

  257. frances snoot

    @Marc:
    Look into Norad and Northcom. Seems we are really “one” round here.

    http://www.noradsanta.org/en/anorad.html

  258. Outlook for Precious Metals very Rosy.

    Looking ahead, Hennecke said the budget deficit crisis of Greece, Portugal and Spain will probably soon spill over to France, Germany, the United Kingdom and the United States.

    At that point, “we will likely see increasing amounts of money being shifted out from sovereign bonds and currencies of the respective countries … and into precious metals,” he said. http://tinyurl.com/ydknskx

  259. Extreme Environmentalists are delusional and don’t even know what the real energy world is about. A lot of people still think that cows live outside on grassy fields for instance. LOL

    Coal is still King

    China Power International has struck a long-term purchasing agreement under which it will buy coal from Australia’s Resourcehouse for the next two decades. China Power has agreed to buy about 30 million tons of coal per year at a cost of around $3 billion per year. http://tinyurl.com/yhbp6b2

  260. RED ALERT!… Internet Censorship!… Major Truth Websites in New Zealand Blocked or Banned by Asia Netcom!
    http://www.knowthelies.com/?q=node/5234
    Wait Googling
    Asia Netcom
    ;-) Hic

  261. Jacques Cousteau UNESCO Courier 1991:
    “In order to save the planet it would be necessary to kill 350,000 people per day.”
    ?????
    Hic ;-)

  262. morning snoot. gonna be a wild week.

  263. yo Bonn. hang tight to the perma.

  264. “The wheels of the economy are turning” LOL

    An other 20,000 Jobs lost in January but the construction sector continued to struggle, losing 75,000 jobs, likely because of unusually cold weather. Construction payrolls fell 32,000 in December. Services sector lost 96,000 jobs in December. Manufacturing payrolls dropped 23,000 in December.

    In January, the number of “discouraged job seekers” stood at 1.1 million, up from 734,000 a year ago. Last month, 6.3 million people had been out of work of more than 27 weeks.

    Annual revisions to the payrolls data showed job losses since the recession began were much deeper than originally thought. The economy has lost 8.4 million jobs since December 2007, compared with 7.2 million before the revisions.

    Total consumer credit decline $1.73 billion in December. http://tinyurl.com/yemxrho

  265. Good Mornin y’all
    Hic ;-)

  266. @frances snoot

    “Coal is History”????

    It clearly says “… buy coal from Australia’s Resourcehouse for the NEXT TWO DECADES” so I am sorry snoot your wrong or forgot to read.

  267. frances snoot

    @Youri:
    Are you forgetting Copenhagen?

  268. Coal is King

    “In the IEO2009 reference case, world coal consumption INCREASES by 49% from 2006 to 2030, and coal’s share of world energy consumption INCREASES from 27 percent in 2006 to 28 percent in 2030.” http://www.eia.doe.gov/oiaf/ieo/coal.html

  269. @frances snoot

    China has notin to do with Copenhagen and again they just struck a coal deal for two decades. If you gonna deny that you exactly prove what I’ve said. Your delusional…IF.

  270. frances snoot

    Youri:
    After the dollar dies, the international clearing union will direct emission standards and coal will die as well. That is why the Chinese are divesting so much capital in nuclear now.

    The yuan, the dollar, the euro–the demise of currency will herald the hegemony for the nuclear standard.

    China and the US won’t choose to continue coal consumption for energy. There won’t be a choice.

  271. frances snoot

    Copenhagen directed the new hegemony through resource control and away from currency. Retooling the international financial system will introduce the ‘green initiative’, or post-industrial export/import control of a global regulator.

    It is delusional to ignore the movement by the world’s power brokers towards this goal.

    The yuan is not owned by the Chinese. They are screwed.

  272. “However, the rate of coal consumption is annually INCREASING at 2-3% per year … ” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coal

    Coal consumption pro country http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/ene_coa_con-energy-coal-consumption

  273. Coal production in the wold has increased by 78% in the last 25 years.

    The report forecasts that by the year 2020, the consumption of the developing countries is expected to INCREASE to nearly 4000 million tons, …. http://www.economywatch.com/energy-economy/coal-consumption.html

  274. @frances snoot

    Indeed the goal of the Globalists is to kill the dollar but more and more I am beginning to doubt if they will really succeed? The dollar seems stronger than they’ve and we’ve anticipated cause of it’s reserve currency status, lack of alternatives and very deep markets.

    I do think that the dollar decline will continue but that doesn’t necessarily mean they won’t be keeping using it as trade coin. It just means you need even more of them dollars to get the same value and to make up for the dollar decline. And nowadays you can insure everything also a dollar decline so that’s maybe the reason those derivative markets are growing like crazy, an other 20% lately. And at the same time money is made on the dollar decline in the dollar carry trade which also could function as a dollar decline hedge.

    This could be a huge mistake of the NWO thinking they could easily destroy it.

  275. Traders Churning Derivatives Like Never Before As Volume Soars 20% http://tinyurl.com/ybzqw5k

  276. Foreign exchange derivatives (Up 78%)!!!!

  277. Morgan Stanley: The Dollar Will Rally Because Europe And Japan Are Such A Disaster http://www.businessinsider.com/morgan-stanley-risk-of-a-dollar-collapse-has-disintegrated-2010-1

  278. 40 kg silver for sale now bidding at 400 Euro.kg http://tinyurl.com/yc3d8kg

  279. Obama’s $6.3 Trillion Scam Is America’s Shame http://tinyurl.com/yzzgfbq

  280. China aims to diversify out of U.S. Treasuries into other assets and commodities. The question that governments are grappling with is which markets are deep enough to absorb China’s riches? Gold? Oil? Euro-area debt? The Madoff family’s next Ponzi scheme?

    Biggest Bubble in History Is Growing Every Day http://tinyurl.com/ybb8k9d

  281. frances snoot

    @Youri:
    Remember when Fisk said that the GCC would peg their currency, perhaps, to a basket of currencies + gold? Why suddenly the amnesia, Youri? Ya’d think people would acknowledge the role of the central banks and the BIS/IMF in coordinating the international financial system. Indeed, the G20 recently approved the 250+B fiat allocations of sdr for member nations in the IMF. The system is in place; the system is functioning; the system is moving away from the dollar as reserve and into an sdr/reserve system.

    The new system will not tie the reserve to a nation. The nations will be cut, therefore, from international trade profit. The deficits/surplus will be managed by the same guys who now own the yuan.

    It’s a racket that is being ‘helped along’ by the press. The press ignores the reform of the system that is now an ongoing reality. The press indicates that gold may be a component of the sdr basket in 2010. But no one speculates on this inclusion, because the press may not speculate on the sdr basket.

    We, the common folk, are not to know about the choices being made for our future outside a cooperative stance we might take in our soon-to-be-instituted ‘communities’.

    Coal is not within the hegemony of the NPT treaty, so coal will not be advanced as a resource. Coal will become unprofitable due to sanctions or regulations.

    The same system is relegating securitization as unprofitable and ignoring the affect on the US economy.

    Here’s a discussion from October 2009 which includes a video from MaxKeiser. Max still hasn’t cited his sources who indicated then that gold would be included in the sdr basket: why not?

    http://www.georgewashington2.blogspot.com/2009/10/will-basket-of-currencies-replace.html

    One may talk of this this this but not that. Screw this this this I want to know about THAT!!!

  282. F–k Morgan Stanley. It’s a kind of reasoning that prevails to explain the apparent strengh of the dollar. In reality ALL paper is condemned. It would be very interesting to see a US $ 50% higher and no exports anywhere. This is the type of reasoning that ressembles a lot what occurred during the 20′s. Europe and Japan in sum will try to export ALL their troubles to USA which is ALREADY in the house of pain. I don’t think so. Except if you believe Americans will accept a 40% unemployment and a total implosion of their export markets ?

  283. @Youri

    That’s funny, calling the reserves a bubble. It wasn’t a bubble when these countries worked and shipped tangible goods to the US and got payed in them. It is quite a mindbend to now turn around and accuse Asia of holding a lot of worthless cash. It is worthless because the US is not keeping their promises to provide something to buy with them.

  284. frances snoot

    Is this what Lindsey Williams was referring to in his dollar devaluation warning?

    http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN2650403720090326

    Gold, most probably, will not be included in the basket. The gdp (including subjective hash like gross national happiness as decided by the ‘wise ones’) most probably will.

    If we do nothing to stop the criminals, the criminals will proceed to ‘drive their wagons’ round the loot and then ‘kill the natives’.

    The circle will be all those excluded from participation in the sdr trade. Got elite friends? I bet a lot of the press do or are getting ready to suck like baracles to the ship that flies the right ensign.

    I pledge allegiance to the flag: the corporate federal!
    HAHAHAHAHA

    Bankrupt.

  285. frances snoot

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/nathan-gardels/the-coming-demise-of-the_b_189789.html

    The demise of the dollar is the demise of the nation/state IF we allow the criminals to lead us by the nose into a global governance system whereby we all get to play-act at being Bangladeshi natives.

    Think about it: if the reserve currency is not tied to any nation, who has the power?

    We are allowing the BIS/IMF to pretty much enact a bloodless coup over all nations through the sdr unit of account which is the unit of the BIS/IMF. Who owns that bank? My guess is the royals and certain elite banking families who’ve all agreed to certain parameters in their new visionary utopia: parameters within the agency of the few and outside the choice of the majority.

    This is not about the end of empire! Asia won’t profit from their trade!

    Think about it.

  286. @Y’All
    bbrring, 7.30am… EST, woke got out of bed, no time to drag a comb across my head… gotta, gotta… uughhh….maxkeiser.com…HA, HA… erm… where is that clock on the comment bpx set to??? and why???…. it’s 2.00 o’clock here in the uk… so 3.00 o’clock in paris where the hell is it 7.00am???

  287. typo: where is the clock on the comment box set for???

  288. Amandip Singh

    Dont worry guys Dollar is not depreciating as per Bloomberg article rather its worth more than it was in 1975 ……………..LOL what a sham this MSM is

    “For all the concern over the $1.6 trillion U.S. budget deficit and record debt load, the dollar is as valuable now as 35 years ago.

    Measured against a basket of currencies from the Group of 10 nations proportioned by how they trade against each other, the greenback is up about 3 percent since 1975, according to Bloomberg Correlation-Weighted Currency Indexes. That was four years after the Bretton Woods agreement, set up in 1944 to link currencies to the price of gold, collapsed. The U.K. pound has dropped 34 percent and the Canadian dollar has fallen 6 percent.”

    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aVbhDaStbA1Q&pos=3

  289. USA I think SG
    Must be in Synch with NYSE
    Hic ;-)
    Ta so called Global Leader

  290. frances snoot

    “As a matter of sound economics, the well being of the world should not depend on the management of a single currency.”

    What does Stiglitz offer us as an alternative? Oh, the management of everything by a single bank. (Literally everything)

    His reasoning is faultly for he cedes control of the well-being of the world to the worst criminals the world has ever known.

    These men feel necessity requires a mass culling of humans.

  291. @frances snoot

    Well talking bout amnesia, remember what I wrote a while ago on your SDR piece. Trade is based on confidence and to build up trust in the SDRs takes a long time. I don’t think it will replace any currency soon and only will play a side role for countries who’ve got not much choice cause their in the hands of the IMF. What could happen, but I am just speculating here, is that they lure China into SDRs by giving them a deal to exchange their dollar hold in SDrs but the advantages would be minor and there are disadvantages. Only when giving China more power in the IMF this could happen but still this is al speculative for now.

    In fact Linsay Willams is not saying that he just repeats what he has heard from some member of an elite branche, to be clear. His call of oil going to roun $50,- was 100% accurate and was confirmed by leaks of the Bilderberg meeting.

    Latest dollar rally will be tempered by U.S. debt concerns. Geithner is only performing lip service by stating that U.S. debt will be decreased in the future. Moodies can’t be taken seriously anymore and they know that so that’s why they begin talking about degrading U.S. triple AAA position but again this will prove to be an other lip service game.

    So to summaries it all : Loads of talking this and that but little change.

  292. @frances
    I would start by mass culling the same people proposing the mass culling. It’s not very difficult you know Snoot. We all know the names. It will eventually happen.

  293. frances snoot

    “Central banks that disclose breakdowns of their reserves bought a record $60 billion worth of euros in 2009’s second quarter, more than half of their new cash in the period, based on International Monetary Fund data adjusted for exchange-rate changes using methodology developed by Barclays Capital.

    They then reversed course, putting 15 percent of new reserves, or $17.8 billion, into euros in the third quarter, the smallest share of any period in which their reserves grew since early 2008. Central banks put 45 percent, or $52 billion, into dollars, up from 36 percent.”

    Do we trust Bloomberg on this? Whom are they citing?

    Remember Bloomberg was the man that got a big chunk share of Lehman from SirEvelyn Rothschild’s table. He ‘stayed on’ as mayor even though there was a term limit. He stands to profit from the sdr/reserve beyond his wildest maniacal dreams.

  294. frances snoot

    @Marc:
    Really?

  295. frances snoot

    Marc, these guys are the authors of shock and awe. We will be surviving, not running about with pitchforks.

    Pitchfork time is NOW. But all are trying to save their gold, their trickets, their lives within the corrupt system which plays men like a cat plays with a mouse.

    The criminals are buying time with that ridiculous Bloomberg article. Time to complete: there is a shhhhedule.

  296. ‘@Y’ALL

    HUH… Digital Sucks!!!
    Little of our data-driven world would survive a catastrophe’
    http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20527451.300-digital-doomsday-the-end-of-knowledge.html?full=true

  297. frances snoot

    “In fact Linsay Willams is not saying that he just repeats what he has heard from some member of an elite branche, to be clear. His call of oil going to roun $50,- was 100% accurate and was confirmed by leaks of the Bilderberg meeting.”

    Guess Lin-say is going to heaven for all his goodness! It’s easy to know things if one knows whom to ask! Winkey, winkey. And we can throw in a bit of a pantomime concerning the old paradigm: you know, godliness, be subject to authorities, feed the preacher, et.al.

    Guess what? We heard the same thing from Stiglitz when he indicated that the sdr/reserve might happen in a year. I prefer a man that doesn’t need to rearrange his dentures with every other word.

  298. The Dork of Cork

    On a provincial Irish note – George Lee former chief economic commentator on the state broadcaster who left his postion last summer to run for a seat in Parliament has resigned from his party and seat after only 9 months .

    He states that he has been ignored completly on economic matters and has been sidelined by his party
    While there is probably personnel jealousies within the party , it should be noted that Mr Lee was very much against the NAMA project and was in favour of bank bondholders getting a haircut
    This was the policey of its economic team early last year but now it has gone very quiet on the subject
    My own theory is that the Mandarins of Dublin Castle who are chiefly Jesuit educated are following the instructions of their masters in Frankfurt and Brussels and this understanding has flowed down to the Fine Gael elite.
    Malcontents such as George have been silenced through a policey of isolation and he seems to have had enough.
    Speaking on Irish radio he seems to think that he can get his old job back but that is now impossible as he is now a political animal within the state broadcaster – at best he will be put out to pasture or given a foreign assignment.

  299. @Y’ALL
    also… HUH… Lord of the Internet and the VALUE of NOTHING!!!
    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/05/us/05sfmetro.html

  300. frances snoot

    clock in comments on US/Canada mountain time

    http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/time-zone/usa/mountain-time/

  301. frances snoot

    Maybe the site is run by a troll living in the Canadian rockies?

    Nice view:
    http://www.knightlytours.com/gif/indexphotos/canadianrockies.jpg

  302. @Y’ALL
    WHAT TIME IT IS… 7.45am EST… no time f-fah sleep, no time f-fah food no time to th…tha.. THINK… mm…must post on maxkeiser.om… must address my fambly… ugh!!!

  303. @ME: very interesting/educating video.
    Thanks!

  304. frances snoot

    “At the U.N. this week, Stiglitz was clear that the U.N. panel believes that regulation must be comprehensive.
    “You actually have to do something,” he said.
    Asked by CBS News about a preferred and realistic timetable for phasing out the dollar, he answered, “My preferred timetable would be that it could begin to be phased in next year. We have a framework which is the SDR, right now, [the currency that the International Monetary Fund uses] and that could be done right away so in that sense we even have an institutional framework.” That, in essence, he said, was the China proposal.
    Stiglitz added, “It could be done within a year. Realistically, I don’t think it will happen that fast. Some of my more cynical friends think that it is only after the economic slowdown moves into a malaise of several years that we will figure out that we have to do something more fundamental – and that would mean after 2013 that the world will be more ready for this.””

    http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/03/26/world/worldwatch/entry4895876.shtml

  305. *WORLD LEADERS HAVE US FOOLED! Why do all world leaders
    belong to secret societies?

    http://www.parenting-healthy-children.com/News.html
    (scroll 6 asterisks down)

  306. Simples, because you cant be a world leader unless your are from a secret society.

  307. Get over to zero hedge and find out who is handling the cdo’s in Greece

    The Ever Increasing Parallels Between AIG And Greece… And The CDS Puppetmaster Behind It All

    http://www.zerohedge.com/article/ever-increasing-parallels-between-aig-and-greece-and-cds-puppetmaster-behind-it-all

    You guest it ‘GS’

  308. More for the Ballad of the Banksters

    Next on the agenda is the internet,
    They haven’t managed to stop it yet,
    To silence the people would cause them no regret,
    To them we’re just bloody slaves to service the debt.