How do advocates for the Republican party actually digest the fact that federal government spending was greatly increased during BOTH Bush 41 AND Bush 43?
There’s no advocacy for conservative fiscal management in today’s Republican party because:
1. The GOP morons in the beltway were too busy brown nosing Fox News Channel for an easy job opposite Megan Kelly or other news babe
2. The GOP legislators were getting pay offs from the health insurance companies, the banks, the car manufacturing corporations, the American Israeli Political Action Commmittee (AIPAC), and screwing their interns and pages at the same time.
3. The Bush 43 people were too busy with the neo-con luncheons to figure out that they were selling US sovereign interests.
4. There is no true conservative base in the GOP…. WE left the party!
5. The only people left in party leadership are a bunch of neo-con stooges for foreign interests.
6. The moral conservative majority which rallied behind Reagan got frustrated in the last 6 elections because they got stuck with Bush, then Bush again, then Dole, then another Bush and another Bush… and then what? Another Bush?
How can anybody honestly listen to the babbling tongue wagging from people like Rush Limbaugh, Bill O’Reilly, or Glen Beck when these idiots set the talk points for the rank-and-file party? They don’t. They’re just parroting talk points faxed to them from Rove et al.
Rove and all were the very people who, instead of standing for US sovereign interests, sold us out in favor of AIPAC and the Bildeberg.
wouldn’t it be prudent for Obama to cleary identify these issues as simple case in point examples as apossed to following in the foot steps of Clinton and the Bushes?
Surely, you have faith in the man’s (Obama’s) intelligence to be able to identify the shit sandwich for which he dines and yet he keeps on a’ eatin’ (wtf?) No my friend, he works for somebody else and it ain’t you American tax payer.
He could call all the stops to the insanity and the additional wars, if he was an honest man. But hell, he ain’t even a natural born American, now either, is he??
you know we have roe vs wade which basicaly, as i understand it, made state laws prohibiting abortion unconstitutional. there are restrictions on how early abortions can be done. while i know they are legal, i have no idea as to how they are funded by third party payers.
@white hunter
thanks for the reply. I accept your apoligy,,for keeking me up. lol
By the way, is abortion really legal and funded by the state in all US states?
when you used the phrase “before he kills all the first born,” i immediately thought of obama’s health care rationing program and it’s impact on general health care. i had no specific thought about abortion when i wrote that. sorry to keep you up.
American voters had NO real choice at all–vote for McCain a war monger, neocon and Obama another war monger closet neocon, both had the same puppet masters. A radical clean sweep of the current lobby driven, AIPAC driven, Banker driven system needs to happen before real change can occur
Thanks for the comment. i know its not easy to stand up for what you think is right when the local community is opposed. Atleast we have the internet and like minded people from around the world can take strength and encouragement from each other.
Ok, its well past my bedtime, so thanks all and goodnight
Precisely. In the end both parties are doing the bidding of the Ruling Elite, The Order, The One World Order. They have been working toward this end for a long time and they are almost there. Goldman Sachs (the Federal Reserve) has effectively collapsed the world monetary system, and now a one world currency is waiting in the wings, next is the control of the populations of the world through food and marshal law.
I used to think that it made a difference between the GOP and the Democratic party, it does not. Until we get back to the constitution, sound money and get rid of the CIA and the patriot act, it’s just political theater. The Patriot act now makes it illegal for anyone to criticise the government. And to adhere to the constitution which makes for provision for the people to replace their government if it is not responsive to the people. Government by the people for the people.
@white hunter
We seem to agree that we dont agree on anything. Yes I think that women should have the right to decide about their own bodies., what a shocking statement! If I stuck a pitch fork up your arse, I think you would be screaming about your right for that not to be happening to you. and i would support your case. lol
@naomi
i totally agree that obama has sucked up to goldman sucks, but i would say that it was pullson (bush man) that give them the TARP money in Bush’ presidency.
you seem to believe that the policies of these characters stem from who they are or how intelligent they are. i think this not to be the case as evidenced by the continuity of the policies. they are actors, front men (or women) who follow the script before them. this includes use of the “red button.”
not sure what you are rambling about., but drone missiles killing women and children inPakistan are not imaginary and neither is the saber rattling regarding Yemen and Iran. funny you mention killing of the first born as obama’s hilteresque health care plan might do just that. you obviously are obsessed with bush; understandable, but bush is gone. we have a new tyrant now.w.
Obama’s choice of the Goldman Sachs former employees and his constant and complete attention to Goldman’s input during this crisis has essentially meant that the government has become Goldman Sachs. As this crime continues, he gets up and plays “good cop” by being critical of Goldman’s policies while doing exactly as they want. Until Obama gets rid of Geither (and he is prosecuted for fraud) and he gets rid of Larry Summers and his chief of staff Rahm, he is the thrid term for George W. Bush. There is no difference in Obama’s actions. WATCH THE ACTIONS, his words are more articulate and he’s very skilled. The Idiot Bush was just that, a coked up amoral spawn from the Skull and Bones Society.
@white hunter
My point is simple, given the choice between obama and palin having their finger on the big red button, would you rather it be an intelligent person or a moron like Palin?
@Naomi-
I have looked at third party movements in this area. It is extremely difficult to rouse people from thier suburban debt-induced delirium. These people continue to feign money while they default on their mortgage, their car payments, their medical debts, and their credit cards.
And, who can blame the citizen who is now unemployed, fined by the city for parking their car, ticketed by the state for driving on a “FREE”-way, and then told by the county that their property taxes are going up too. Then, their unemployment is cut and their children are left to die.
Many, instead of changing the “system” within, have chosen to simply leave. The work required to change the “system” appears so dangerous. And, so personally threatened with financial ruin and health effects to match, these people run.
The organization required to launch an effective third party is subject to manipulation by the money coming from people like AIPAC, Soros, and the lobbyists. As soon as the social momentum appears, the situation is undermined by bribery and scandal which infiltrates the operatives and destroys the effectiveness.
These are very well studied and organized people. In order to assist this board with understanding the degree of international criminality, I call your attention to the information warfare which occurred 2 years ago between Anonymous and Scientology. This information war is a study in how government bureaucracies are used by those with money to take down the freedom of speech.
The tactics of Anonymous in the Scilon fight are very interesting to review. These people remained “Anonymous” but formed a collective which exchanged news, information, and views through various forum. They knew they had something brewing when YouTube hit counters started registering hundreds of thousands of views.
When you review the statement by Anonymous in the “More Info”, it is incredible to consider that these comments have been viewed by more than 3 MILLION people. That is a small but significant proportion of the nation/world.
Anonymous was then attacked by the Church of Scientology as being “terrorists” and “rogues”. There was a particularly effective progandist in the UK who did remarkable youtube videos. His name was Rogue Anonymous and I was terribly impressed with his work. Someone appears to have saved the PSA001 video. http://qcanon.ning.com/profiles/blogs/rogueanonymous-la-chute-de
The critics of Scientology appear to have been focused on facts related to the deaths and medical malpractice associated with the church. But, I find interesting parallels between the Anonymous v. Scientology campaign and the campaign by various blogs against the misconduct and criminal misbehavior at the banks.
These “RogueAnonymous” videos, IMHO, reflect a skirmish in the financial world war. The videos are so well produced and have so much packed in them that it is hard to believe that a regular guy is doing this. My guess was that it was a reflection of some secret ops. The riddles are intriguing in that they can be extrapolated to nearly anything, but reflect the intent of the propagandist, which is to strike fear in his opposition and intrigue in the unaligned.
I conjucture that the Church of Scientology was funneling money to hedge funds in the Cayman Islands or Bermuda. These funds were then circulating back into the international markets in an escalating racket. Meanwhile, the people in the Church or who were being indoctrinated were being suppressed.
Moreover, please view this RogueAnonymous video. This is the video which set me off on my anti-Scientology stance. It was clear that elements of the Church of Scientology were conspiring to destroy healthcare and honest physicians who were practicing in my area of California. I am certain that I have encountered these SciLons at times and believe that they have directly interfered with the practice of neurology, psychology, psychiatry, family practice, and other medical specialties. I also believe that political operatives are directly funneling money from the CoS into political campaigns. This is made even easier by the lunk-heads on the SCOTUS who voluntarily surrended our Constitution to the highest bidder.
That bidder is linked to Hollywood and their pathetically sad faith in UFO aliens visiting the planet (yes, that is what Scientologists believe).
I mean, it’s easier for me to believe that Jesus was crucified than UFO aliens landing in Hawaiian volcanoes to enslave us. Hubbard was a nut job and that’s it.
Take a look at the comments of Miscaviage in the context of the international financial blowup in the two years since Anonymous posted this video. (BTW, google/youtube tried to delete the Anonymous video but the outcry was so bad that they had to relent). Anyone else think there are ties between the CIA and Church of Scientology? Anyone want to look at the Alex Jones commitment to the vaccine paranoia?
Notice the number of people sitting in the audience applauding. These people are stooges because they know nothing about the violence committed against these doctors. Moreover, the lies told by CoS and CCHR fail to be addressed.
Notice the discussion he gives about media manipulation.. please view this video and post your comments. I will back later to recheck the discussion board.
Our discussion here is going to be monitored by those who want to control us and prevent our discussion.
To those who are paid to interfere with our free speech, FUCK YOU.
Thats right WH, blame him for a war in your own imagination. The man is crazy. its only a matter of time before he kills all the first born. Thankfully Bush the retard never thoughr of that.
actually, that’s pretty funny. I find it interesting that many people are more condemning of sarah palin’s stupidity than of barrack obama’s atrocities. it would be more useful if you would address the point that i’m makiing
@white hunter
Obama didnt start 2 wars. Obama didnt destroy the American economy with massive tax cuts for the rich and jack up spendng on the military complex.
What ever you you think about obamas failures to deliver on his premises of change and hope, you can not blame him for the position america finds its self in today. These things are leftovers from bush and before. Americans have believed politicians over decades when they said no problem spend spend spend and now your in deep trouble because your new economic rival also your political rival (china) is now holding all your debt. Well that situation didnt start with obama did it?, What ever you think about obama he has a lot of shit to clear up that was left by his predecessors
I understood you from the outset.
People are frustrated by the blackmail and spineless Democrats.
I used to think that there was no difference between the 2 parties.
But I have changed my mind on that one. The right manages to push the Dems to the right with their dominant MSM position. Take the Supreme Court decision from last week. That will force the Dems to go even harder right just to stay in power. Just ask yourself who nominated the members that voted for that decision.
There is no comparison. The GOP will vote the corporate direction over the common mans position 99% of the time. The dems would do the same about 90%. But the reason is the MSM bias for big BIZ.
obama’s policies are nearly identical to those of bush. it seems to me that obama is “bush on steroids” if the policies are the same, why does it matter which clown is on the stage? it might be argued that obama is worse because he can get away with more.
So we in the rest of the world have to look forward to the sarah palin-fox news-tea party running the world. How wonderful, I know a bit about polictal expediency having seen the labour party in the UK become the consverative party in order to get elected. now i live in a country where very few politicians have any ideals or principals or ideas other that their own ambitions, but I tell you would rather have obama than another retard pres like bush (palin). I would shit myself if she gets any more power and so would many others in the world.I
If your saying that “The political equation does not rely upon the elected politicians in WashDC” isnt that a revolution to overthrow a democracy your talking about.
As Palin, GOP and the members of the New World Order take over the Tea Bag party, people who are really libertarians, independents and patriots need to leave in droves and start a third party movement.
Ron Paul in an address in late January, essentially said the same thing. Now is the time for real ideas and concepts come to the top and let the BS from Palin and the GOP seeks it’s own level. When a real third party movement emerges, Palin will have to stay in her hole. The only thing that a viable third party would have to watch for would be operatives from George Soros.
Everyone, and I mean you and me need to start working toward this goal. How about it Caldoc? In your area, with your background, you are extremely articulate…..
If California is any indicator – the people are ready to roll heads in the March primary.
The political equation does not rely upon the elected politicians in WashDC. The people have no confidence in them at all and believe those politicians to be acting against their personal interests regardless of partisan affiliation.
The state is out of money. They are not sending out the social services because those programs are failing.
apologies for being unclear. Its 2am here and Ive had a drink or two. I think that Jon Stewart was saying that the pres. should take his message to the American people and force the democrats in his own party to support him in congress and the senate. I think that is Jon Stewarts main frustration (democrat politicians). Obama kicked ass at the recent republican meeting, using reasoned arguments. Lets hope he can do the same with the Dems.
EU-US bank data deal: Attack on terror or privacy?
Highly relevant to some particular points Max has recently raised vis-a-vis Iceland & the UKs use of ‘anti-terror’ laws to financially impede a peaceful, sovereign state….
The U.S. is pushing the European Parliament to approve an agreement giving American officials access to EU banking data.
Washington says the move’s vital to counter terrorism, but many in Europe see it as a gross invasion of privacy.
With growing information about out President Obama and his work with the CIA ala Business Internation Corporation after his stint at Colombia University, this is spot on.
“When ratings agency Fitch downgraded Greece’s sovereign rating to BBB+ from A- in December 2009, the resulting 130 basis points widening in spreads on Greek government bonds served a jarring indication of the longer-term consequences of the 2008 financial crisis. Bank balance sheets have been saved – but at the expense of a rapid deterioration in public sector balance sheets…”
Privatization; lowered standards for government service; constricted lending; loss of aide to the poor– the moral hazard lies with the policies being forwarded by the ECB.
“Mr Kraemer at Standard & Poor’s says eastern Europe can also help to point the way for the West. “France has had a target of replacing every two civil servants leaving with only one. One eastern European country has set that target at seven to one, so there is clearly more flexibility that governments are not yet making use of,” he says.”
people are accepting a soft dictatorship now, they just don’t call it that. they imagine the office of the president to be much more powerful constitutionally than it is. witness palin’s belief that the president has the authority to declare war; i am sure that view is shared by many americans
yer c when reading the above type sentiments i do tend to believe more and more that one day the us ppl will actually be asking and wanting a ‘soft’ dictatorship –
@gb
What Jon Stewart was saying was, that the president of the United states should use exactlty the same techneques that George ‘retard’ Bush used for 8 years, which was, to say do as you are told or, I as the pres ‘the real representative of the american people, will make you do what I want. something the american media lapped up for most of the 8 years and so did the electorate, which marginalized any decent from the people.
@danny
well I think, it was always the case that american citizens had to pay tax to the USA, no matter where in the world they live… (er… f they are self employed) so inland revenue were allowed to examine peoples bank details!!!
Well, it is now official — Americans now have a global reputation for being diseased — so much so that it is implied that contact with any of them could bring any plague upon you…
Proof of this : The US sitcoms are now using this a normal fodder, and not a single American has complained.
Sitcom : 4 Boffins and the Tramp (The Big Bang Theory)
Transmission : 08 FEB 2010
Looks as though Iceland is next to be stitched up by the IMF. They have, allegedly, ginorous sub sea and sub Arctic oil deposits which I have read could possibly be the biggest ever discovered in the World. The Russians sure think so and the Danes have got their clai in quick for Greenland.
Great way to decend into full scale war, all kinds of instigators can now commit random acts that could be conscrewed as CIA-commercial maffia crimes, implicating an ever bigger part of the market and population, eventually forcing military action on the highest level. The only thing that can relieve this is a stronger ideology to override the mixed commercial interests, or a financial breakdown that will disarm the players..
It’s a two headed monster. You feed either head and you feed the beast. If you believe one side is better than the other, and don’t realize they are all crooks looking out for their own best interest, then you are the shill.
Sorry if this has been posted before, but its too good to miss. Its the unedited version of the Jon Stewart interview on the ‘O’really Factor’. Jon stewart ‘the comedian’ comes across as sensible and knowledgeable and ‘Harvard man’ O’really comes across as a retard. There was one other Harvard man who seemed to be a retard, what was his name again George W. something. While dear old George seemed to have no problems playing the retard, Stewart catches O’really out a couple of times playing the ‘Im just an average joe, bullshit. How do Americans put up with these shillls.
Huummm? Was thinking about ALL these puts bought on the airlines on september 11th, and when that nigerian asshole with his exploding pants. Remember ? In both cases big position in puts. Probably by CIA hedge fund managers ? Nahhhh….. These CIA guys wouldn’t kill 3,000 innocents American citizens slaves for a stock market kill ? Bet you that they bought a lor of shares or calls of the naked body scanners and shares of vaccines manufacturers ? The news is not really funny. Besides that, the Nazis from the CIA can use their jobs as hedge fund manager to launder all the cocaines and opium that they have acccess to from Columbia and Afghanistan for “defending” american “values”.
I have a new show concept for you Max
Instead of “On the Edge” you could have “On the hedge” with Leon Pannetta and Mister Gates.
….”They wanted a government run by an American elite like themselves, as James Madison wrote, “whose wisdom may best discern the true interest of their country and whose patriotism and love of justice will be least likely to sacrifice it to temporary or partial considerations.” They wanted to make sure the mass of ordinary citizens, too easily “stimulated by some irregular passion … or misled by the artful misrepresentations” and thus prone to hysteria—like, say, the rabble who’d run amok in Boston Harbor—be kept in check. That’s why they created a Senate and a Supreme Court and didn’t allow voters to elect senators or presidents directly. By the people and for the people, definitely; of the people, not so much…..” http://tinyurl.com/yhygm4c
ROFL tat freeloader friend of mine tried to get in touch with me via Linked in SPAM
ROFL
that bugger during school days When we buggers use to eat Cucumber snacks from pushcarts near school
tis bugger use to stand by and eat the peels fer free ;he wanted to save 10 cents
ROFL hic
A modest proposal to our president on the subject of our sizable national debt to the Chinese nation:
Dear Barry Obama
Have you heard about the latest exercise by the Chinese Government to spread pro-Party propaganda around the internet? I believe this could be of vital importance to paying off our sizable debt to the Chinese.
The “50 Cent Army” is an army of Chinese volunteers who are paid by the Chinese Government to spread pro-China propaganda around the web. (Take a look at http://is.gd/80HEE ) The Communist Party will pay us 50 mao (about 5 cents) per propaganda message we can spread around the Chinese web.
This could be an excellent way to settle your $1tn debt to China. Considering the high volume of unemployment, and the lack of genuine wealth-creating industry in the country, we have plenty of spare resources to get cracking on the 20 trillion messages it will take to settle the debt. Why wait?
Barry, some might argue that by participating in this Opinion Guidance Program (read: large scale brainwashing exercise) we are supporting the Chinese State’s thought control policies. However, I believe this argument need not bother us, after all, we have been actively endorsing China’s human rights repression by enjoying cheap imported goods for quite some time now.
Barry, let me know what you think of this plan, ok?
Y’know
As I watch NINOTCHKA (1939) for the 2nd time in a month,
I wonder…
What did people in communist Russia think about,
a year before communism collapsed?
I wonder if there is any similarity to America NOW?
Max?
Max?
Max?
Please remove your areolae from the Marmite, thank you…
Question for the Republican suck-ups-
How do advocates for the Republican party actually digest the fact that federal government spending was greatly increased during BOTH Bush 41 AND Bush 43?
There’s no advocacy for conservative fiscal management in today’s Republican party because:
1. The GOP morons in the beltway were too busy brown nosing Fox News Channel for an easy job opposite Megan Kelly or other news babe
2. The GOP legislators were getting pay offs from the health insurance companies, the banks, the car manufacturing corporations, the American Israeli Political Action Commmittee (AIPAC), and screwing their interns and pages at the same time.
3. The Bush 43 people were too busy with the neo-con luncheons to figure out that they were selling US sovereign interests.
4. There is no true conservative base in the GOP…. WE left the party!
5. The only people left in party leadership are a bunch of neo-con stooges for foreign interests.
6. The moral conservative majority which rallied behind Reagan got frustrated in the last 6 elections because they got stuck with Bush, then Bush again, then Dole, then another Bush and another Bush… and then what? Another Bush?
How can anybody honestly listen to the babbling tongue wagging from people like Rush Limbaugh, Bill O’Reilly, or Glen Beck when these idiots set the talk points for the rank-and-file party? They don’t. They’re just parroting talk points faxed to them from Rove et al.
Rove and all were the very people who, instead of standing for US sovereign interests, sold us out in favor of AIPAC and the Bildeberg.
@Stokyo jake
wouldn’t it be prudent for Obama to cleary identify these issues as simple case in point examples as apossed to following in the foot steps of Clinton and the Bushes?
Surely, you have faith in the man’s (Obama’s) intelligence to be able to identify the shit sandwich for which he dines and yet he keeps on a’ eatin’ (wtf?) No my friend, he works for somebody else and it ain’t you American tax payer.
He could call all the stops to the insanity and the additional wars, if he was an honest man. But hell, he ain’t even a natural born American, now either, is he??
THEY ARE ALL FULL OF SHIT.
hopefully soon we can all agree on that
you know we have roe vs wade which basicaly, as i understand it, made state laws prohibiting abortion unconstitutional. there are restrictions on how early abortions can be done. while i know they are legal, i have no idea as to how they are funded by third party payers.
@white hunter
thanks for the reply. I accept your apoligy,,for keeking me up. lol
By the way, is abortion really legal and funded by the state in all US states?
BTW, abortion is legal in the u s
@stokyo jake
when you used the phrase “before he kills all the first born,” i immediately thought of obama’s health care rationing program and it’s impact on general health care. i had no specific thought about abortion when i wrote that. sorry to keep you up.
@white hunter
OK you made me do it. its 5am but you had to keep me up ok. your quote
“one of us has taken something out of context, because i detect nothing in our dialogue about women and their bodies”
Your quote
“funny you mention killing of the first born as obama’s hilteresque health care plan might do just that”
So your either saying that obama is going to make health workers kill babies because they are the first born
Or you are saying that the health care plan will make abortion legel in America. (good thing too)
or what does that sentence mean?
American voters had NO real choice at all–vote for McCain a war monger, neocon and Obama another war monger closet neocon, both had the same puppet masters. A radical clean sweep of the current lobby driven, AIPAC driven, Banker driven system needs to happen before real change can occur
Only on TV dramas do politicians and presidents make actual decisions. BUSH, OBAMA, GORDAN BROWN serve the same masters.
@Gordo
Thanks for the comment. i know its not easy to stand up for what you think is right when the local community is opposed. Atleast we have the internet and like minded people from around the world can take strength and encouragement from each other.
Ok, its well past my bedtime, so thanks all and goodnight
stokyo jake
one of us has taken something out of context, because i detect nothing in our dialogue about women and their bodies
as for us not agreeing, of course that is true, but you have made no attempt to address the fact that obama pursues the same major polices as bush
@whitehunter
Precisely. In the end both parties are doing the bidding of the Ruling Elite, The Order, The One World Order. They have been working toward this end for a long time and they are almost there. Goldman Sachs (the Federal Reserve) has effectively collapsed the world monetary system, and now a one world currency is waiting in the wings, next is the control of the populations of the world through food and marshal law.
I used to think that it made a difference between the GOP and the Democratic party, it does not. Until we get back to the constitution, sound money and get rid of the CIA and the patriot act, it’s just political theater. The Patriot act now makes it illegal for anyone to criticise the government. And to adhere to the constitution which makes for provision for the people to replace their government if it is not responsive to the people. Government by the people for the people.
@white hunter
We seem to agree that we dont agree on anything. Yes I think that women should have the right to decide about their own bodies., what a shocking statement! If I stuck a pitch fork up your arse, I think you would be screaming about your right for that not to be happening to you. and i would support your case. lol
@naomi
i totally agree that obama has sucked up to goldman sucks, but i would say that it was pullson (bush man) that give them the TARP money in Bush’ presidency.
@stokyo jake
you seem to believe that the policies of these characters stem from who they are or how intelligent they are. i think this not to be the case as evidenced by the continuity of the policies. they are actors, front men (or women) who follow the script before them. this includes use of the “red button.”
@ stokyo jake
“given the choice between obama and palin”
That would be Obama. By a mile.
If you lived in TX like me you would understand.
The radio here is pure hatred (80% anyway).
Hatred of what you ask?
Hatred of Liberals, Democrats. They Hate us more that Alciada. And I am not sure that is hyperbole.
@stokyo jake
not sure what you are rambling about., but drone missiles killing women and children inPakistan are not imaginary and neither is the saber rattling regarding Yemen and Iran. funny you mention killing of the first born as obama’s hilteresque health care plan might do just that. you obviously are obsessed with bush; understandable, but bush is gone. we have a new tyrant now.w.
@stokyojake
Obama’s choice of the Goldman Sachs former employees and his constant and complete attention to Goldman’s input during this crisis has essentially meant that the government has become Goldman Sachs. As this crime continues, he gets up and plays “good cop” by being critical of Goldman’s policies while doing exactly as they want. Until Obama gets rid of Geither (and he is prosecuted for fraud) and he gets rid of Larry Summers and his chief of staff Rahm, he is the thrid term for George W. Bush. There is no difference in Obama’s actions. WATCH THE ACTIONS, his words are more articulate and he’s very skilled. The Idiot Bush was just that, a coked up amoral spawn from the Skull and Bones Society.
Watch Obama’s actions.
@white hunter
My point is simple, given the choice between obama and palin having their finger on the big red button, would you rather it be an intelligent person or a moron like Palin?
@Naomi-
I have looked at third party movements in this area. It is extremely difficult to rouse people from thier suburban debt-induced delirium. These people continue to feign money while they default on their mortgage, their car payments, their medical debts, and their credit cards.
And, who can blame the citizen who is now unemployed, fined by the city for parking their car, ticketed by the state for driving on a “FREE”-way, and then told by the county that their property taxes are going up too. Then, their unemployment is cut and their children are left to die.
Many, instead of changing the “system” within, have chosen to simply leave. The work required to change the “system” appears so dangerous. And, so personally threatened with financial ruin and health effects to match, these people run.
The organization required to launch an effective third party is subject to manipulation by the money coming from people like AIPAC, Soros, and the lobbyists. As soon as the social momentum appears, the situation is undermined by bribery and scandal which infiltrates the operatives and destroys the effectiveness.
These are very well studied and organized people. In order to assist this board with understanding the degree of international criminality, I call your attention to the information warfare which occurred 2 years ago between Anonymous and Scientology. This information war is a study in how government bureaucracies are used by those with money to take down the freedom of speech.
The tactics of Anonymous in the Scilon fight are very interesting to review. These people remained “Anonymous” but formed a collective which exchanged news, information, and views through various forum. They knew they had something brewing when YouTube hit counters started registering hundreds of thousands of views.
If you are familiar with this shot in the information war:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCbKv9yiLiQ
When you review the statement by Anonymous in the “More Info”, it is incredible to consider that these comments have been viewed by more than 3 MILLION people. That is a small but significant proportion of the nation/world.
Anonymous was then attacked by the Church of Scientology as being “terrorists” and “rogues”. There was a particularly effective progandist in the UK who did remarkable youtube videos. His name was Rogue Anonymous and I was terribly impressed with his work. Someone appears to have saved the PSA001 video.
http://qcanon.ning.com/profiles/blogs/rogueanonymous-la-chute-de
The critics of Scientology appear to have been focused on facts related to the deaths and medical malpractice associated with the church. But, I find interesting parallels between the Anonymous v. Scientology campaign and the campaign by various blogs against the misconduct and criminal misbehavior at the banks.
These “RogueAnonymous” videos, IMHO, reflect a skirmish in the financial world war. The videos are so well produced and have so much packed in them that it is hard to believe that a regular guy is doing this. My guess was that it was a reflection of some secret ops. The riddles are intriguing in that they can be extrapolated to nearly anything, but reflect the intent of the propagandist, which is to strike fear in his opposition and intrigue in the unaligned.
Another video is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApCvOsQuUp4
I conjucture that the Church of Scientology was funneling money to hedge funds in the Cayman Islands or Bermuda. These funds were then circulating back into the international markets in an escalating racket. Meanwhile, the people in the Church or who were being indoctrinated were being suppressed.
Moreover, please view this RogueAnonymous video. This is the video which set me off on my anti-Scientology stance. It was clear that elements of the Church of Scientology were conspiring to destroy healthcare and honest physicians who were practicing in my area of California. I am certain that I have encountered these SciLons at times and believe that they have directly interfered with the practice of neurology, psychology, psychiatry, family practice, and other medical specialties. I also believe that political operatives are directly funneling money from the CoS into political campaigns. This is made even easier by the lunk-heads on the SCOTUS who voluntarily surrended our Constitution to the highest bidder.
That bidder is linked to Hollywood and their pathetically sad faith in UFO aliens visiting the planet (yes, that is what Scientologists believe).
I mean, it’s easier for me to believe that Jesus was crucified than UFO aliens landing in Hawaiian volcanoes to enslave us. Hubbard was a nut job and that’s it.
Take a look at the comments of Miscaviage in the context of the international financial blowup in the two years since Anonymous posted this video. (BTW, google/youtube tried to delete the Anonymous video but the outcry was so bad that they had to relent). Anyone else think there are ties between the CIA and Church of Scientology? Anyone want to look at the Alex Jones commitment to the vaccine paranoia?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApCvOsQuUp4
The guy talks about “transforming the planet’ with LRH tech (L Ron Hubbard)…notice the names and org’s that he discusses…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfu7Sr50N7U
Notice the number of people sitting in the audience applauding. These people are stooges because they know nothing about the violence committed against these doctors. Moreover, the lies told by CoS and CCHR fail to be addressed.
Notice the discussion he gives about media manipulation.. please view this video and post your comments. I will back later to recheck the discussion board.
Our discussion here is going to be monitored by those who want to control us and prevent our discussion.
To those who are paid to interfere with our free speech, FUCK YOU.
@white hunter
Thats right WH, blame him for a war in your own imagination. The man is crazy. its only a matter of time before he kills all the first born. Thankfully Bush the retard never thoughr of that.
actually, that’s pretty funny. I find it interesting that many people are more condemning of sarah palin’s stupidity than of barrack obama’s atrocities. it would be more useful if you would address the point that i’m makiing
@white hunter
have you got your talking points writen on your hand?
as for him not starting 2 wars, it’s early in the day
@white hunter
That is an unfortunate reality.
how does he clean it up by aggressively pursuing the same polices?
@white hunter
Obama didnt start 2 wars. Obama didnt destroy the American economy with massive tax cuts for the rich and jack up spendng on the military complex.
What ever you you think about obamas failures to deliver on his premises of change and hope, you can not blame him for the position america finds its self in today. These things are leftovers from bush and before. Americans have believed politicians over decades when they said no problem spend spend spend and now your in deep trouble because your new economic rival also your political rival (china) is now holding all your debt. Well that situation didnt start with obama did it?, What ever you think about obama he has a lot of shit to clear up that was left by his predecessors
@Gordo
so the Dems ability to stay in power is more important than their integrity. that i can believe
Hugh Hendry, Marc Faber, and Nassim Taleb Go to Russia
Hit the Eng on the bottom right to get english.
Good debate about China toward the end.
http://paul.kedrosky.com/archives/2010/02/hugh_hendry_mar.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+InfectiousGreed+%28Paul+Kedrosky%27s+Infectious+Greed%29
@ stokyo jake
I understood you from the outset.
People are frustrated by the blackmail and spineless Democrats.
I used to think that there was no difference between the 2 parties.
But I have changed my mind on that one. The right manages to push the Dems to the right with their dominant MSM position. Take the Supreme Court decision from last week. That will force the Dems to go even harder right just to stay in power. Just ask yourself who nominated the members that voted for that decision.
There is no comparison. The GOP will vote the corporate direction over the common mans position 99% of the time. The dems would do the same about 90%. But the reason is the MSM bias for big BIZ.
@stokyo jake
obama’s policies are nearly identical to those of bush. it seems to me that obama is “bush on steroids” if the policies are the same, why does it matter which clown is on the stage? it might be argued that obama is worse because he can get away with more.
@California Doctor
So we in the rest of the world have to look forward to the sarah palin-fox news-tea party running the world. How wonderful, I know a bit about polictal expediency having seen the labour party in the UK become the consverative party in order to get elected. now i live in a country where very few politicians have any ideals or principals or ideas other that their own ambitions, but I tell you would rather have obama than another retard pres like bush (palin). I would shit myself if she gets any more power and so would many others in the world.I
If your saying that “The political equation does not rely upon the elected politicians in WashDC” isnt that a revolution to overthrow a democracy your talking about.
@Caldoc,
As Palin, GOP and the members of the New World Order take over the Tea Bag party, people who are really libertarians, independents and patriots need to leave in droves and start a third party movement.
Ron Paul in an address in late January, essentially said the same thing. Now is the time for real ideas and concepts come to the top and let the BS from Palin and the GOP seeks it’s own level. When a real third party movement emerges, Palin will have to stay in her hole. The only thing that a viable third party would have to watch for would be operatives from George Soros.
Everyone, and I mean you and me need to start working toward this goal. How about it Caldoc? In your area, with your background, you are extremely articulate…..
I’m serious.
@jake -
If California is any indicator – the people are ready to roll heads in the March primary.
The political equation does not rely upon the elected politicians in WashDC. The people have no confidence in them at all and believe those politicians to be acting against their personal interests regardless of partisan affiliation.
The state is out of money. They are not sending out the social services because those programs are failing.
@Alistar -
If I were European, I’d tell the US that the exchange of banking information is off the table.
apologies for being unclear. Its 2am here and Ive had a drink or two. I think that Jon Stewart was saying that the pres. should take his message to the American people and force the democrats in his own party to support him in congress and the senate. I think that is Jon Stewarts main frustration (democrat politicians). Obama kicked ass at the recent republican meeting, using reasoned arguments. Lets hope he can do the same with the Dems.
Ron Paul says it right in this clip :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dECSYm5bSM
CIA coup…
The people of America need to rise up and provoke the change:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaYSEoYVxIo
EU-US bank data deal: Attack on terror or privacy?
Highly relevant to some particular points Max has recently raised vis-a-vis Iceland & the UKs use of ‘anti-terror’ laws to financially impede a peaceful, sovereign state….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-iDOFhk62s
The U.S. is pushing the European Parliament to approve an agreement giving American officials access to EU banking data.
Washington says the move’s vital to counter terrorism, but many in Europe see it as a gross invasion of privacy.
Very cute Max. And unfortunately very true.
With growing information about out President Obama and his work with the CIA ala Business Internation Corporation after his stint at Colombia University, this is spot on.
“When ratings agency Fitch downgraded Greece’s sovereign rating to BBB+ from A- in December 2009, the resulting 130 basis points widening in spreads on Greek government bonds served a jarring indication of the longer-term consequences of the 2008 financial crisis. Bank balance sheets have been saved – but at the expense of a rapid deterioration in public sector balance sheets…”
Privatization; lowered standards for government service; constricted lending; loss of aide to the poor– the moral hazard lies with the policies being forwarded by the ECB.
“Mr Kraemer at Standard & Poor’s says eastern Europe can also help to point the way for the West. “France has had a target of replacing every two civil servants leaving with only one. One eastern European country has set that target at seven to one, so there is clearly more flexibility that governments are not yet making use of,” he says.”
http://www.thebanker.com/news/fullstory.php/aid/6993/Cleaning_up_Sovereign_debt.html
people are accepting a soft dictatorship now, they just don’t call it that. they imagine the office of the president to be much more powerful constitutionally than it is. witness palin’s belief that the president has the authority to declare war; i am sure that view is shared by many americans
yer c when reading the above type sentiments i do tend to believe more and more that one day the us ppl will actually be asking and wanting a ‘soft’ dictatorship –
@gb
What Jon Stewart was saying was, that the president of the United states should use exactlty the same techneques that George ‘retard’ Bush used for 8 years, which was, to say do as you are told or, I as the pres ‘the real representative of the american people, will make you do what I want. something the american media lapped up for most of the 8 years and so did the electorate, which marginalized any decent from the people.
1. CIA Google Connected at the Hip
2. Obama’s rise to power can be spelled CIA?
3. Ron Paul says the CIA has has in effect carried out a “coup” against the US government, and the intelligence agency needs to be “taken out.”
http://www.parenting-healthy-children.com/News.html
(scroll down to CIA section)
@gb
granted, but a confusion just the same
@gb
yer wtf thought the exact thing when watching vid myself, haha
Doh! (Danny already posted the link.)
@whunter
because the majority of journalists don’t do their jobs
why do people confuse jon stewart with journalism?
Scary.
EU-US bank data deal: Attack on terror or privacy?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-iDOFhk62s
@Danny … EU-US bank data deal: Attack on terror or privacy?
Yeah .. same ol’ chit !
“the EU wants more time ” … instead of just saying NO !
How many terror strikes have there been since 9-11 ?
Spying on 600 mio. people of course warrants that ?
Just a friggin bad joke IMO.
@Jake
but jon stewart wants obama to ignore congress and act like a dictator? wtf
What are the chances that the below speel will indeed slightly impede upon the political sensibilities of a few around here eh?
haha
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beLkcndGGEk&feature=sub
@danny
well I think, it was always the case that american citizens had to pay tax to the USA, no matter where in the world they live… (er… f they are self employed) so inland revenue were allowed to examine peoples bank details!!!
How Goldman Sachs Helped Greece to Mask its True Debt
http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/0,1518,676634,00.html
Goldman Caught Using European Loophole To Help Massively Understate Greek Deficit
http://www.businessinsider.com/goldman-caught-hiding-greek-financial-disaster-2010-2
Sarah Palin wants the U.S. President to declare war on Iran (“Sarah be PIMPIN’!!”)
http://digitaljournal.com/article/287261
The 10 Ways Wall Street’s Corporate Spies Steal Information From Your Company
http://www.businessinsider.com/how-corporate-spies-are-stealing-information-from-your-company-2010-2
blackmail=terrorism=mafia=?
Well, it is now official — Americans now have a global reputation for being diseased — so much so that it is implied that contact with any of them could bring any plague upon you…
Proof of this : The US sitcoms are now using this a normal fodder, and not a single American has complained.
Sitcom : 4 Boffins and the Tramp (The Big Bang Theory)
Transmission : 08 FEB 2010
Hey Max, I see the US is looking for your European bank details now
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-iDOFhk62s&feature=sub
lawl
Looks as though Iceland is next to be stitched up by the IMF. They have, allegedly, ginorous sub sea and sub Arctic oil deposits which I have read could possibly be the biggest ever discovered in the World. The Russians sure think so and the Danes have got their clai in quick for Greenland.
@gonzomarx
An “American elite” would be a step up from the international elite that we find ourselves subject to.
Great way to decend into full scale war, all kinds of instigators can now commit random acts that could be conscrewed as CIA-commercial maffia crimes, implicating an ever bigger part of the market and population, eventually forcing military action on the highest level. The only thing that can relieve this is a stronger ideology to override the mixed commercial interests, or a financial breakdown that will disarm the players..
It’s a two headed monster. You feed either head and you feed the beast. If you believe one side is better than the other, and don’t realize they are all crooks looking out for their own best interest, then you are the shill.
Sorry if this has been posted before, but its too good to miss. Its the unedited version of the Jon Stewart interview on the ‘O’really Factor’. Jon stewart ‘the comedian’ comes across as sensible and knowledgeable and ‘Harvard man’ O’really comes across as a retard. There was one other Harvard man who seemed to be a retard, what was his name again George W. something. While dear old George seemed to have no problems playing the retard, Stewart catches O’really out a couple of times playing the ‘Im just an average joe, bullshit. How do Americans put up with these shillls.
http://ccinsider.comedycentral.com/2010/02/05/jon-stewart-on-the-oreilly-factor-complete-and-unedited/
off topic…but…wondering if there are ‘ Short Term marriage’ contracts…renewable after 3/4 years…just like a tenancy agreement
i think this is going to be the future…
Huummm? Was thinking about ALL these puts bought on the airlines on september 11th, and when that nigerian asshole with his exploding pants. Remember ? In both cases big position in puts. Probably by CIA hedge fund managers ? Nahhhh….. These CIA guys wouldn’t kill 3,000 innocents American citizens slaves for a stock market kill ? Bet you that they bought a lor of shares or calls of the naked body scanners and shares of vaccines manufacturers ? The news is not really funny. Besides that, the Nazis from the CIA can use their jobs as hedge fund manager to launder all the cocaines and opium that they have acccess to from Columbia and Afghanistan for “defending” american “values”.
I have a new show concept for you Max
Instead of “On the Edge” you could have “On the hedge” with Leon Pannetta and Mister Gates.
….”They wanted a government run by an American elite like themselves, as James Madison wrote, “whose wisdom may best discern the true interest of their country and whose patriotism and love of justice will be least likely to sacrifice it to temporary or partial considerations.” They wanted to make sure the mass of ordinary citizens, too easily “stimulated by some irregular passion … or misled by the artful misrepresentations” and thus prone to hysteria—like, say, the rabble who’d run amok in Boston Harbor—be kept in check. That’s why they created a Senate and a Supreme Court and didn’t allow voters to elect senators or presidents directly. By the people and for the people, definitely; of the people, not so much…..”
http://tinyurl.com/yhygm4c
ROFL tat freeloader friend of mine tried to get in touch with me via Linked in SPAM
ROFL
that bugger during school days When we buggers use to eat Cucumber snacks from pushcarts near school
tis bugger use to stand by and eat the peels fer free ;he wanted to save 10 cents
ROFL hic
When Dubya went on air saying we are going to repair the damage I knew something was up…
A modest proposal to our president on the subject of our sizable national debt to the Chinese nation:
Dear Barry Obama
Have you heard about the latest exercise by the Chinese Government to spread pro-Party propaganda around the internet? I believe this could be of vital importance to paying off our sizable debt to the Chinese.
The “50 Cent Army” is an army of Chinese volunteers who are paid by the Chinese Government to spread pro-China propaganda around the web. (Take a look at http://is.gd/80HEE ) The Communist Party will pay us 50 mao (about 5 cents) per propaganda message we can spread around the Chinese web.
This could be an excellent way to settle your $1tn debt to China. Considering the high volume of unemployment, and the lack of genuine wealth-creating industry in the country, we have plenty of spare resources to get cracking on the 20 trillion messages it will take to settle the debt. Why wait?
Barry, some might argue that by participating in this Opinion Guidance Program (read: large scale brainwashing exercise) we are supporting the Chinese State’s thought control policies. However, I believe this argument need not bother us, after all, we have been actively endorsing China’s human rights repression by enjoying cheap imported goods for quite some time now.
Barry, let me know what you think of this plan, ok?
Best
Mr Jonathan Swift
The Fateful Geological Prize Called Haiti
http://www.financialsense.com/editorials/engdahl/2010/0201.html
* 10 minutes to 45 minutes
me thinks
Hic
@ gr8mikey
Oks I will step out from next posting
It’ll probably be the whole episode
maybe 10 to an hrs time before it appears
Hic
ROFL Quick GunBONN
Hic
Damn you are fast!!! LOL!
First time first!
Unos
Still champ
Hic