Stacy Summary: The Keiser Report with Karl Denninger as special guest. This week we report on the scandals of George Soros and the IMF shaking out the gold market; US bank lending falling at the fastest rate in recorded history; and the trickle up unemployment pyramid. Keiser also speaks to The Market Ticker’s Karl Denninger about CDOs, synthetic CDOs and hiding Greek debt.
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1st!
Stacy, have you and Max had a barney? First time I’ve seen you call him plain old Keiser.
second! with a link that’s off topic (sorry Stacy) : )
But I thought it relevant to the previous topics,…and where we are at present!
http://www.physorg.com/news185781475.html
Not just the movies,.but the whole culture creation industry(including economix)
A guy stands up to a bank, errr.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMKIrjI3Ueg
@Crumpet – it’s a British (public school?) thing; I used to call quite a few of my friends in Britain by their surname alone; I always thought it was funny, makes me chuckle anyway; I also worked with a few British photographers who also go by just their surname
@Mother,….Quite a profound statement,..
There’s “real” capital for ya,.and the man knew it!
There’s even fraudulent gold.
Gld ETF Warning, Tungsten Filled Fake Gold Bars
@Stacy, There’s even fraudulent gold.
http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article14996.html
@Stacy, They go by surnames in the US military too.
Nice hair cut?
Does Mr. Bond secure his hair with Synthetic Greese?
Greese is the word its all in the lyrics as fofoa points out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iH2a30LTeWw
Greetings from Poland,
Max and Stacy, I enjoy the show very much and watch it as often as possible. I do not know about you and Stacy, but I have taken the ultimate stand by just ex-patriating from the empire.
When listening to you speak with guests, it reminds me of just how vulnerable and naive the general American public is. I have very little background in finance or economics (although I teach in the an economics institution as a sociology professor). Your show does remind me of how the “financial terrorists” are aware of this and have manipulated the public into this crises.
When speaking to students about the American economy, I tell them that part of the issue is the very value system of consumerism has destroyed the world economy. The American economy is based on the ability for people to spend money that they do not actually have. I ask students if they would buy something with money that they do not actually have. Here in Poland that idea is very foriegn, yet the credit card companies have roosted on campuses, just like in the States.
Five years ago, I gave away all of my possessions, left for the Central Asian country of Kyrgyzstan…one of the poorest on the continent. This is a cash only economy where people were dependent and held hostage to the value of the dollar.
Your show reminds me of why I chose never to return to America. I do not miss the consumer values and have no desire to ever come back. Why does Russia Today and Al Jazeera have better news about the U.S than in the States…it is sick but true.
Keep up the good work.
Ned
@Y’All
quite often… when on the site, I notice comments addressed to me or about me… cheers and stuff but… uhm, I haven’t always got the time or the inclination to reply to all your posts… I’m not Max Keiser I do have better things to do than… spend my time worrying about fanmail.
@Max,..Nice show, but next time, try to refrain from gurning,…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3bBmWi317E&feature=channel
@Stacy – I see. I mostly use surnames only. Whenever I’ve see a lady use it, it’s mostly said in anger
@Stacy – I forgot to ask, what was it you did before you started keeping Keiser in line?
Yes
But WHEN????
Mike
Frankly, it’s got to the point where the only pundit I genuinely believe is Peter Schiff.
(New link to Mr. Schiff on RHS of this page is a nice touch.)
@Y’All
er… just like it sez on the link!!!
http://www.boingboing.net/2010/02/22/harlem-vs-the-drones.html
@MaxKeiser. where is denningers farm and how much gold does he have?
@Crumpet – I’m sure that it’s not a typical thing for women to use; but I used it all the time with my two of my closest friends in London, who both happened to be men; I have never used it with an American friend . . . until I did it on air . . . the first time ever and you spotted it!
UK Home loans falls to an 8 YEAR LOW!!!!!!!!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/borrowing/mortgages/7298115/Mortgage-lending-hits-8-year-low.html
& Yet the £ will not die, what is a fu*king Vampire or something?
Mike
@Stacy. taylor = tales, smith= smitty, bell= ding dong. nicknames, hahaha
on topic…
http://themessthatgreenspanmade.blogspot.com/2010/02/new-look-at-fed-mbs-purchase-program.html
Very good show.
CDS: The very notion that one can buy ‘insurance’ to cover gambling loses is preposterous.
i.e. gambling without risk
What a miss in Karls story is the shorting part of Goldman sachs on Greece
Goldman Sachs Shorted Greek Debt After It Arranged Those Shady Swaps http://tinyurl.com/y9na8ms
But looking at it more closely it’s a bit more complicated and maybe Karl is completely right about this issue, donnow yet.
Greece Said to Have Arranged Swap Contracts With About 15 Banks 22 February 2010 (Bloomberg) http://tinyurl.com/ybkto7p
What mine major complaint of the whole situation is the use of insider knowledge and the “old boy networks” in the hedging world. If Greece is a client to Goldman Sachs but Goldman Sachs uses this insider knowledge to make profit via via this could be regarded as “Insider trading” and thus illegal.
A junky will constantly remind you of the fact that he’s completely trust able so I don’t trust Goldman Sachs saying in the MSM all the time “what we did was legal”. This makes me suspect that in fact what they did was exactly the opposite and completely illegal but hidden in within the networks of good ol hedge fund palls or somtin.
I am reffered to freinds as Chokes
ROFL
Lotta kids in India commit crime so tat they can go back to Jail to get 3 square meals
Didja bring up tat point based on American Drug war
@max wierd color combination
Hic
“The IMF should continue to hold a relatively large amount of gold among its assets, not only for prudential reasons, but also to meet unforeseen contingencies”.
IMF should hold large amount of gold: WGC 21 February 2010 (CommodityOnline) http://tinyurl.com/ye46qq8
So even the IMF is getting scared so in a way admits that Gold hedge is a necessity.
Here it clearly says: Goldman has come under a barrage of criticism for structuring mortgage backed securities while its traders shorted that market.
This is “Insider Trading” in a way. So if you know your client will default and you sell him an insurance and at the same time insure yourself higher on that default (Using the info from your client that he will default) than in my opinion this is fraudulent. It get’s even worse when you help him default by shorting.
If this is all legal than my name should be Napoleon cause this sounds ridiculous on itself.
Donnow if I nailed it here but got the feelin i am getting close.
Maybe back to Matt Taibbi piece cause he’s the guy with the three brain cells ( I only got two: Food & Sex) all the thinking as to go trough these two. Taibbi actually has the third cell which he can fully employ for the thinking part.
Wall Street’s Bailout Hustle – re-creating the conditions for another crash by Matt Taibbi 17 February 2010 (Rolling Stone) http://tinyurl.com/ydwqnmg
Off topic
FULFORD VS. HAARP hi-rez
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VX0JvpW5q0&feature=related
Well if its real then its its part of topic
Hic
(Pardon, should be on a Gibberish thread.)
Liz Warren on Bill Maher Show
via Jesse’s Café:
http://jessescrossroadscafe.blogspot.com/
@ x – while I finish watching Max & Stacy, here’s a jibber from me: John Stewart calls Glenn Beck a communist.
@Bonn
Talkin bout Fullford: Has anybody spotted Kissinger lately?
Five senior associates of Henry (Heinz) Kissinger were killed on December 12, 2009 and Kissinger himself has been missing since that time and is now presumed dead, according to senior intelligence sources
Kissinger missing-presumed dead, 8 January 2010, by Benjamin Fulford http://tinyurl.com/y9l48de
@ Youri
Benjamin Fulford on Rense – October 13 2008 Part 1
one more hope max & stacey catche tis bait at least
Hic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODqSnQoY-0Y&feature=related
Kissinger missing-presumed dead, 8 January 2010, by Benjamin Fulford
I suspect hes been put on Ice Youri cause they pritty close to immortality
Hic
@Ned in Poland … Why does Russia Today and Al Jazeera have better news about the U.S than in the States…it is sick but true.
How true …. and ironic !
@ Max @ Stacy open ya minds We aint coo coo
8 to 40 hrs of research
Then y’all get ta real Plot
Hic
@X
Liz Warren should step down, she doesn’t serve anyone by demonstrating her lack of power.
@ Max why dont ya try and get in contact with Benjamin Too
Hic
He was an Economist plus he was able to Interview Rockerfeller
For at least another hundred years we must pretend to ourselves and to every one that fair is foul and foul is fair; for foul is useful and fair is not. Avarice and usury and precaution must be our gods for a little longer still.
@ Max – Obama’s not in the dark on economic inequality, but for some reason, he refuses to address it. He even refused to address it during the election process. When he was campaigning with Bill Clinton on his side, Bill brought up the fact that inequality is as bad now as it was in 1929, and he actually prefaced it by saying that Obama had asked him to mention it, because he (Obama), himself could not. Also, the people around him aren’t stupid. They know. Jared Bernstein, Joe Biden’s economic advisor, definitely knows. Check out this list of books by Jared Bernstein.
The sad thing is that Washington is so invested in protecting and propping up the top 1% that they’re willing to sacrifice the rest of the country . . . despite knowing, and they must know, that sacrificing the rest of the country will ruin the top 1% eventually, too. Part of my hope for Obama was that since he has two young children, he’d be more likely than others who have sat in the Oval office to actually TRY to make the country a better place for future generations.
Part of the problem …
… just a quickie :
Apart from bringing back Glass-Steagall, they should IMO make the following changes on top :
#1 CEOs and BOD’s Salaries should not exceed 7 x their “average company-worker’s wage”
#2 Awards – short-term – of shares and options should be banned completely
#3 Awards of shares after 10 years of successful management – voted by “minority” shareholders
#4 They may buy “Insider” shares with their “own” money .. disclosure on day of buy/sell.
#5 10yr. “Environment Costs” should be “activated” and highlighted in their balance sheets
Too many CEOs and BODs care more about their short-term share-price and renumeration package than the longer term perspective of a company and it’S effect on society,
FWIW
OK .. that’s all.
oops,.that quote was from John Maynard Keynes,..silly me!
@ Youri @ Bonn – Some sites are crackpot sites. Kissinger is not dead. He was interviewed recently about the passing of Alexander Haig.
@ all – Ohio man bulldozes $350,000 home to avoid foreclosure:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/23/terry-hoskins-ohio-man-bu_n_472845.html
(Be sure to check out the video. Also, vote in the survey on that page to see what most people think about Terry’s actions.)
@Mep,….Mother’s already posted that story,…on this very page,..: )
(I thought I was bad!),..
BTW: Hows the bump coming along ?
just wondered about gold. i started buying gold to protect purchase power vs inflation. now im told we’re in for a big deflation event. how does gold fare in a massive deflation? only time we have had such a thing is when gold and pounds / dollars where pegged together. ie 1930′s things are dofferent now dollars rize and fall, gold rises and falls . whats gonna happen in the deflation to gold price?
or i just have to keep the gold, and spend my silver and when inflation finally comes im ok?
Ben Fulford..i think is being used to spread disinformation….
I really like him…but his stories are so fantastic and huge and all encompassing..and the fact that none of the things he has said have come to pass…so far…
@ Dedo – LOL! Oops, I totally missed that. Sorry Mother Earth!
It’s not a bump yet . . . more like a bloat. I only need 300 extra calories a day & have been getting most from liquids, fruit, and veggies. I feel like a peeing machine.
Cramer: Why Volcker Rule Is Wrong
http://www.cnbc.com/id/35526139
@ doomandbloom – Yeah, I’m gonna side with Jim Cramer on this one. LOL! It’ll be hilarious if he tries to paint Volcker and the 5 treasury secretaries backing him up as “socialists,” “communists,” “Marxists,” or “anti-capitalists.” He has said all of those things about Obama for proposals far weaker than the Volcker rule!
For those of you who haven’t seen it:
George Soros – Republic Enemy #1
GEORGE SOROS AND THE ROTHSCHILD CONNECTION
Secret Financial Network Behind “Wizard” George Soros
George Soros Happiest Time under Eichmann?
Who is George $oros?
The case of George Soros
http://www.parenting-healthy-children.com/News.html
Scroll down to George Soros section
@Mep
BTW these pictures of Kissinger are all old ones from March 2006. Try to find the Audio of the interview (if they have it)
Why does Karl clarify his views concerning the Goldman Swaps with Greece with the word “allegedly” and then continue in full-force speculation concerning the motives for the an alleged purchase?
“French Finance Minister Christine Lagarde, speaking on France Inter radio Thursday, said Eurostat was looking into “how a merchant bank, in this case Goldman Sachs, helped Greece structure, postpone a certain number of debt repayments.”
Asked whether the bank had broken rules, the minister said: “That is the question that we have to ask ourselves and to which we need the answer. And I don’t have that answer today.”
‘”You have to know first of all whether it was doctoring the accounts and if this was legal or not at the time it was done. And if it was legal, it will be necessary to find out whether it was favorable for stability. Probably not. And in that case, how we can avoid a repeat, if those measures already were taken,” Lagarde said.’
http://www.kndu.com/global/story.asp?s=12003802
Is Denninger speculating on an actual crime or the rumour of a crime that he read about somewhere? How can Denninger be so assured of own his convictions concerning the Greek government’s motives and actions when Largarde, the French finance minister, is not?
@ Youri – Audio of interview is here.
@Mep
TnX – Never heard an interview begin with “Can you identify yourself” but it seems to be him indeedy.
@ Mep
Oks ya think I’am looney
Lets argue I had gone fer me drinky poo
Hic
There is this clothe dated back to the time of columbus which outlines the East course of both the Americas
Guess what it outlines the Northeren pole as well
How did they do that ???
Why is it Hitler never Invaded Swiss and the Vatican
I mean thats where a whole lotta wealth is ????
Sorros and Paulson are all over the media…
Boys, remember what your Mama told you, an empty truck makes the most noise!
I bet Max wont get a chance to go to that locked room in the Vatican Library
@ Max ya done well enough make some phone calls see if y’all get access
Hic
@ Youri can ya help me find tat Vid
@ Mep you says lotof disinfo out there
As oppossed to CNN or BBC which one are ya talkin about ????
Hic
@Bonn
You mean this Audio from Kissinger? http://multimedia.play.it/m/audio/29148868/kissinger-interview-on-alexander-haig-02-20-10.htm
Denninger opines about coming violence in one of this blog entries today. There are other commentators saying much the same thing (cf. Faber, Schiff, Celente…); and of course there’s the IRS-airplane dude saying that violence is the only way left. For an opposing and inspiring view of what’s possible, what’s already been done in a situation where a population has overcome Soviet and German totalitarian regimes without resorting to using violence against their rulers, please see The Singing Revolution.
I found this movie to be very inspiring as it shows that people can sucessfully revolt without descending to the inhumane behaviour level of their rulers.
I aint retarded and I have shown ya tat the Bagdad battery
I have also shown ya lotta germans were trying to learn Sanskrit
Ya guys thought I was on weed
Baalbaek Ruins
Lets see you tame a Elephants to build that crap which would take 20 years to make
It all does’nt make logical sense
Hic
And we have not takin Just Benjamins word fer it
I have seen at least 10 to 15 other peeps talkin on ta same topic
Hic
@ Youri tat Cloth thingy which has a Map of both the americas and African coast line as well as Antartic North pole dunno which is which
!! Dated to around the time Columbus set sail in the late 1400′s Oks wait I’ll find it
Hic
Hey Everyone,
How do you post a photo beside your name on this site?
@Mep@Bonn
So Fullfords source seems to be a disinfo agent. So I hope he comes back on it. i just send him a e-mail. see if i gets back on it.
And if they could survey coastlines that fast on a boat they musta been real real good
ROFL
Hic
@Bonn – Elephants, pyramids, etc. Didja ever read these (free) books? Lots of amazing stuff about ancient civilizations & nukes, ETs, other stuff you’re interested in. They’re free and loads of fun!
By my guesstimates and seeing Vids of Jordon maxwell Stichin tat new young dude Discovery Channel ROFL Discovery Channel did’nt even know they are’nt supposed to show tat shit (tats ta one Mep would call Info)
Plus few other peeps
there is no way Fullord is lying hes @ least 70 % correct
Tat just maybe because even he doesnt know ta full story
I suspect ta whole Story is in ta Vatican Library
and parts of it in Babylon which ta Vatican has been trying to get hold of Mep Hun Partly oil partly Babylon
ROFL
Hic
@ Will
Yeah I know about ta ancient nuke wars
Thats why a searched for evidence
So I correlated Cancer populations to Craters guess what its a match
Plus if it was meteors they really do select where they Land
ROFL
Hic
@ Ingrid
Ya can’t paste photos here Its a good thing too
Only links Just give a headsup on what the link refers to
Hic
and of course there’s the IRS-airplane dude saying that violence is the only way left
@Will:
How did you come to this “of course” conclusion, Will?
@ Mep
Always bear in mind “History is written by the Winners of a War not the loosers”
I am King maybe I’ll shave of a couple of years on me age just to look good in ta history books
I was 13 when I conqured Europe Hmmm errr no peeps wont belive tat
I was 23 when I ……….Yes tat sounds about right
I did It in 1 year
Hmmm eeeerrrr how fast does a horse travel hmmmmm oks it took me 4 years to Conqure Europe
Hic
ROFL its taking tis lunatic family 300 years or from what I learnt 5000 years today
ROFL PMSL
Hic
* correction
I suspect hes been put on Ice Youri cause they pritty close to figuring immortality
Hic
But ya nos mees i tend ta miss out complete words
Good fer te brains
ROFL
@Frances – I used “of course” as an idiomatic expression in the sense of “without any doubt; certainly” because I’m pretty sure that most people perusing this site have read Mr. Stack’s alleged manifesto and so would understand the reference I was making. It was more of an assumption than a conclusion, born of spending many hours reading on this site and noticing that many of the people posting here take time and effort to know what’s going on.
If you prefer we can leave off the “of course” as its omission wouldn’t materially interfere with the point I was making in my movie recommendation. In fact, we can totally leave Mr. Stack out of the discussion, especially if it makes people uncomfortable.
Also I have spent around 10 hrs a day on ta net fer ta last 2 and half years
The reason I was’nt scoring any Goals last few days was cause I was searchin fer new shit
Hic
@Bonn
Well Kissinger seem to be alive and well. Doesn’t make much sense that they kill him now anyways. To bad for Fulford that he’s been duped. but that’s the risk of “on the edge” info can be sometimes just “Over the Edge’.
btw They made a big hit piece in Bilderbergs propaganda Toilet Time on Alex Jones. Full of lies and deception. http://www.infowars.com/financial-times-writer-compares-alex-jones-with-okc-bomber-timothy-mcveigh/
@ Youri exactly
but tat old timer who came on AJ the other day says he was clinically dead fer 10 minutes or 20 fergot after he had his heart attack
And we all here know tat if ta brain does’nt recive oxygyn fer even 5 minutes it leads ta harsh side effects so probably they improoved ta shit somewhere where in they keep supplyin oxygin to ta brain
Need Cal Doc on tis call
ROFL
Hic
And tats why I take every info wit a pinch of salt
Hic
Even Max Did’nt know about Greeces problems
Hic
Marc Faber, editor of the Gloom, Boom and Doom Report, warns of partial US debt default http://www.ft.com/cms/893ac9c8-757e-11dc-b7cb-0000779fd2ac.html?_i_referralObject=14719641&fromSearch=n
@ Max & co.
Get somebody that can explain it in simple english. Surely itt can be done, if there is any will to do it. The terms, all arbitrary nomenclature are only too immediately delegated acronyms, as if that was a smart move. After all acronyms may save key strokes, but in the usage, need to be grasped quick, at second nature.
whereas here the terms: collateral debt obligation, or securiterized blah blah, and on and on, never things really crystal clear. What the hell they are. designed to confuse and give up no intrinsic or intuitive meaning, so it needs to be broken down, to basics.
All these guys are flim flam artists at heart, and jump at a chance to strut their stuff even in your venue. Which I (possibly mistake…) as an attempt at “demystification, so Break it down good enough for a moron, then even… pedantic monsters like some of your resident bloggers here can unnerstan it.
thanks. or sorry, or both.
@Will:
I wondered at the reference to Stack and the correlation to the writing on the internet which is spurious at best to source-point and being utilized by every bean-winded writer on the internet to forward some hitherto unknown correlation between Stack, the spurious writing, and their own interpretation.
I suppose one hopes that humans, in general, would not ask for small margins in their search for great truths, margins that derive no substance with something occurring within the realm of what we humans so affectionately term ‘reality’ but rely substantionally on imaginative discourse.
But it seems that people suck on news stories like they are peppermint drops, enjoying and savoring the rumours which they spread thickly through subsequent discursive goo.
Being American, I’m highly offended by the lack of any standards whatsoever for news stories except the unwritten standard of ‘adhering to the policy of the paper’. I’m sure things have gotten worse since our early years as a proud nation: one can hardly find any substantive difference between People Magazine and the New York Times these days.
Of course when I read the Stack documoment, I concluded it was professionally done. By whom?
Some writing that seems simplistic is really very structured.
The only violence I associate with Stack, that figurative giant of the rumour mills, is the violence done to the rational mind in the name of some fast-forwarded agenda.
One can’t believe anything one reads except: “Mind the Gap”.
@ Youri – You’re welcome. I didn’t know that people being interviewed had to identify themselves, either; I learned about it only after an olympic athlete, Sven Kramer, asked an NBC reporter if she was stupid when she asked him to tell her his name and what he just won–she apparently had to ask in order to identify the tape. Video here: http://www.spike.com/blog/olympic-athlete/92740
It makes sense.
Re: Fulford, Sitchen, Maxwell,Icke ,tsarion,.etc etc,..all spin Dr’s,…sorry folks, you’re being led astray, follow the yellow brick road !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INpR7GRzFNc
@ Will
Be free ta post what ya want make sure if its Jibber Jabber ten its in ta Jibber Jabber section or mommy Stacy will get angry ROFL or just use ta previous thread Ohh also keep a low down on ta Monsanto thingy Max has said tat Monsanto’s Lawyers are on ta prowl
I personally would hate ta see Stacy & Max in a court battle
My 2 cents on Stack thingy
He killed himself he Killed another person ferget it IMO
Hic
Oh also no Porn to be pasted
Though I caught Stacy wen she was in ta Kremlin postin Hank Paulson’s Scandelouls Pic
ROFL
I tink she had a couple of Vodkas
ROFL
Hic -)
@ Dedo
Are they makin Insane amount of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Do they have a family to speak of ??????????????
@ dedo
I’ll give ya 2 days without readin Info untill 1940′s
Tats u can only use info upto 1940
Invent a transistor
Go ahead try
Hic
Do the stats on the SR – 71 mate
they made a 1000 so called inventions in a Jiffy
Too essentially be a photagrapher
Tis is from your legit Discovery challenge
Do ya know an SR – 71 operates at 700 degrees celcius
Wait gotta check on tat hell yes
It Expands by a foot and a half at operational speeds
Tat it leaks fuel as it takes off
Tat it has ta refuel mid air before it goes on a mission
?????????????????????????
@Bonn,…Huh !,…
Example at about 17:00 Deninger: synthetic cdo… “these things exist because, in effect somebody believes.. “in effect what somebody is buying is going to be worthless… ” your out there selling something that the person who creates this, thinks is going to be zero… ”
cds the essence w corp … synthetic cdo’s to satisfy demand for higher yielding
a thing that trows off cash !
HE TALKS WAY TO FAST. does he not know that? That’s why I think he is in fact enjoying the opportunity to preen because he understands it. and if you want to understand it, go to Harvard.
Thanks for trying, though.
ya messin wit ta wrong peeps me and Youri know lotsa stuff about aircrafts
Name any aircraft
F 117 was known as ta Blue haeven first test flight was in 19 73
it had its tail wings ta opposite way but tat reflected ta heat from ta exaust fer surface to air heat seakin missiles so tey made it a Y
Hic
@Bonn,….Now you’ve really lost me !,..
@ Dedo
They had to make a fuel which Ignites when an aditive is added cause the fuel tanks also leaked when it took off
Ta fuel tank gets sealed at operational speeds
by me assumptions it gotta touch Mach 2 or above Seal ta fuel tanks
Refuel mid air
ten carry out ta mission
What say ya Youri ????
Ya guys see too many movies
@Frances, @Bonn, @all – sorry to you and anyone else to whom I have caused any emotional disturbance by including the mention of Stack in my post. I should probably just stick to posting in Jibber Jabber threads as I seem to be incapable of discerning what is appropriate content. My only excuse is that I am a regular reader of Denninger’s blog. So I thought my post related to the interview, but now I understand that the relationship is too oblique for the moderators of this site.
@Bonn,….Now you’ve really lost me !,..
How so Dedo ??????
I will help ya
@Bonn,…..That’ll teach me from butting in half way through a conversation,…I’m away wif the fairies bud’,…
Lost in space,..light on, but no-ones in,..
I’ll have a read back,…nah fk it,..I can’t be bothered ! : )
I’ll take your word for it,…move on folks,…..nothing to see here,…..
He killed himself he Killed another person ferget it IMO
Perhaps, Bonn, if you weren’t living in India but were living under US tax codes, you might take offense to the use of nonsensical gibberish to forward the elite’s continued and expanding theft of your labor through taxation. The updraft of the stories seem to be that Americans need the IRS to file the forms for us: soon enough we won’t be asked to help out at all. Why bother with the middlemen? Just deduct our wages and keep them as they see fit.
But the added onus of the bigoted rendictions of Stack-ite-ism through editiorial genuflection is almost too much to bear. Before there was any body recovered with Stack stamped on the toe-tag, it seems that his body was borrowed to utilize whatever public sentiment might be harvested through punditry. One wonders if it would be better if the nation had no newspapers at all?
@Bonn,..I was relaying the fact that those guys were doctors of spin,..and you came back at me with a charade of tech’ info’ for jets etc,….: )
@Will:
For crying out loud: don’t be so sensitive.
@ Will
Oh Will oh Will Stacy & Max are quite cool actually
Dont worry mate I tink
just told ya basic rules ROFL
But if it were more Financial Stacy would like it
Max IMO doesnt care too much which would make sense
Why should 2 peeps disect ta same problem
But Sunday’s is Usually free fer all
ROFL
After all all werk and no play makes Jack a dull boy
@Mep
ahaah! That was fun, Yeah this guy is for real. I am not like him but I like to see personalities in somebody and he’s surely one. This guy is 100% top sport. Otherwise he wouldn’t have won Gold anyways.
Olympic Athlete Politely Asks NBC Reporter If She’s Stupid http://www.spike.com/blog/olympic-athlete/92740
@Bonn:
Since when do you post on topic?
@ Dedo
No noooooooooooooooooooo I love all af ya @ Keiserville
We all just trying ta get ta whole picture
I personally feel we need ta get a little history involved
What I was driving at was
I saw tis on Discovery Channel
They made an invention a day while buildin te SR 71
Electrical Wires tat werk at 700 degrees celcius
And Dedo I will always gaurd ya back
Ya me bro
Hic
@Bonn:
Since when do you post on topic?
ROFL ROFL ROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFL
Yeah true Hun but ya know if ya click on me link its entertainin
Deny tat hun
ROFL
Oops too many Whiskys
Hic
Peter Sutherland Goldman international.
http://www.trilateral.org/membship/bios/ps.htm
This fella is an ex Irish atourney general.
To think that Greece is alone in its dealings with Goldman is surley niave in the extreme.
oink oink.
@Will:
The connotation of ‘stack’ with the morgue and the name Stack seem to derive some illustrative usage evident through the target and the group dynamic behind the agency of the ‘pilot’: it is all so staged that the term ‘life is a stage’ becomes ‘news is staged’.
Please do not take offense to my words which should be clamped if they do not ring true.
Alex Jones is very angry cause Debra Medina Flip Flopped her opinion bout truthers and calls them despicable.
“I don’t like to be Bamboozled, Shackled, I am nobodies dupe!” Alex says
@Bonn,…Cheers bud’,..no-one’s ever said that to me before,.I’m touched! : )
Hic
@frances
I think I agree here:
“Why does Karl clarify his views concerning the Goldman Swaps with Greece with the word “allegedly” and then continue in full-force speculation concerning the motives for the an alleged purchase?”
Now I have only so much to work with, but to me it is right here in this little example of explaining the complexities of current financial wizardry, there is, something weird. These guys don’t want to explain it, they only want to be the big shot in the front of the class. They get to be boss teacher. big deal!
I mean sure Karl is better than most, still the same.
@frances snoot
Didn’t know you were on the Joe Stack case, ah good! Yep, Staged!
btw It’s snowing in Austin Texas ahah!
Basically there’s tis group of Idiots who like to see peeps get Killed
Maybe they know that peeps really don’t get killed or at least thier Souls dont get killed
Or they follow a missnomer of if they Kill they get thier energy
Or they havin a competition who can Kill ta most without gettin caught
So tese idiots competin with Stalin and Chairman Mao tink hitler finished 5th IMO
Current Fuck faces r targetin a Bill
I would say Pharma won ta first prize I tink
Oks off ta Poker
ROFL
Sorry if i offended anyone
But I never Lie
Hic
Yep, Al Gore was right! LOL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvLPOPJtUs8
One last comment
Try n learn Japnese or Chinese
Hic
And sum tin doesnt add up
tats all
Hic
Chinese ya need to learn 50,000 symbols (though I doubt tat saw it on Discovery ) ta be an expert
But ta read Accordin ta discovery fluent Chinese ya need ta learn 10,000 symbols
Which again seems wierd
Hic
@JoeSchmoe:
Karl is inconsistent with his predilections: he supports a free market but ignores Bretton Woods. How can we have a free market under the administration of ‘sovereign banks’ as he calls the central banks? Sovereign banks? They aren’t functioning on the behalf of the people of the US: are they functioning on the behalf of sovereigns (royals)? If the sovereign banks are above the law, does that mean the sovereigns (royals) are as well? What about the Vatican?
Do we have a class of human that is above the law and operates behind sovereign banks which govern on their own behalf at the expense of humanity? Do the ‘elected’ govern us for them?
If so, then things begin to make more sense. The sovereigns have access to the sdr through the G20 banks/BIS. Scion families as well retain privilege to sdr.
The rest of us are cut off by the currency which separates us from the surety of true reporting of the events.
Great show
M and S
but remember that the recession/depression is only in the private sector, NOT GOVERNMENT WORKERS – raises and expansion
Gold Is Driven by Manipulation and Supply Shortages
http://seekingalpha.com/article/189698-gold-is-driven-by-manipulation-and-supply-shortages
@ frances
Could you disect and give a diagram of this:
“The rest of us are cut off by the currency which separates us from the surety of true reporting of the events.”
It seems there is an effective “firewall” around the puppet masters, but like in the “Truman Show” there’s still… goin’ through the motions, etc. That overweaning sound stage thing waites to the end of the movie.
How’s the currency separate us from the reporting of the sure truth?
Yo @WL. good read. so many opinions out there. i say 1600 this summer. your in vancouver so i imagine you get silver from first majestic? 8 degrees you lucky bugger. got your golf clubs ready?
@Max
Obama is PRIVATE PROPERTy owned by Wall Street. Just like Bush was. In reality this country, like the UK and most countries, is bankster dictatorship.
Obama is absolutely unimportant in the picture. He’s just a mouth piece, a house plant, a janitor.
@Snoot won’t the deflation of currency’s clue us in to the events?
Hey Stacy showed the unemployment chart I posted last week!! right on Stacy!
@Ingrid
This site uses http://www.gravatar.com go there to get your photo under your nick.
Re: IMF gold
We know that IMF were to sell 404,3 metric ton gold and that 200 ton went to India, 2 ton to Mauritius and 10 ton to Sri Lanka have already been sold. Why is this sale of the rest 191,3 metric ton gold so “shocking” or taking everybody by the breath when announced? We know this was going to happen, we only didn’t know when.
@Max and Stacy – Thanks for the show. It is a pleasure to watch.
Thanks Palantiri
The IMF is used as the agency which goes into a country to bail them out. In effect they actually bail out the banks as the loans are never given to the country but directly to the banks which own the debt. Payment is then secured by the taxpayers by direct payments and by the nationalisation of taxpayer assets EG Utilities etc.
Our spineless, supine, emasculated, idiotic, greedy, despicable, debauched political class good easily resist the bankers. Mao said it and it remains true, power grows out of a barrel of a gun. All it would take is one true leader to turn the tables on the vampire class—Im still waiting
Have any of you seen the movie the Village?
The trailer below does not explain the ending/story-line, but I think you guys should watch it. And then watch “Stargate Studios Virtual Backlot Reel 2009″. (After watching the movie, and then the Studio Reel, you’ll understand why I told you to watch it!!)
The Village – 1/10
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hVevQea4h0&feature=related
http://www.blackbirds.net/u2/c_bennett/bbird-03.html
Who here tinks max n stacy is brilliant or
or connected ????????
@ Maxy Sorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry
Ya only connected IMO
If Iam lyin God Kill me pLZ
ROFL
Fuck him I’am an athiest me a GOd toooooooooooo
ROFL
Hic
Almost 10% of FDIC-insured banks “troubled” http://www.marketwatch.com/story/fdic-number-of-troubled-banks-rises-to-702-2010-02-23-10200
@Youri. tugboat needed on the other thread.
@Joe;
Did you ever notice how all the currency has somebody’s picture on it? Mostly they are queens and kings or other icons, but ours is special. We get money with pictures of the emissaries or agents of someone. The money has writing on it too: “In God We Trust”. Well, the problem with money and truth and surety is that it is a pretty sure thing that the somebody that the guys were emissaries for is the somebody that owned the money and the emissary and the god in whom we are supposed to be trusting. And we all work (unless as Supergeek indicates we spend time here being unsuccessful) at getting more of this money and keep on trusting the system that gave us god, money, and those founding fathers to boot. Some figure gold is a tangible hope; but the price of gold is fixed within the ‘god we trust’ King James1-whirlygig.
http://www.creativereview.co.uk/cr-blog/2007/february/the-money-maker
@ronron:
One goes down another goes up and the stories continue.
@Snoot. tats wat i said. SDR up, food, clothing, gas, insurance. etc. up. means the dollar down. or whatever currency they give you in 5 or 10 years.
@Commonsense,..”The Village”, very good “Plato’s Cave” analogy!,..
Interesting chart
gold and S&P
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=$SPX&p=W&yr=3&mn=0&dy=0&id=p56939906457
Gold S&P ratio (rising ratio S&P cheaper in gold terms)
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=$GOLD:$SPX&p=W&yr=3&mn=0&dy=0&id=p10532601455
Sdr stable, ronron, as its value is an amalgamation of the four currencies going upsey downsey.
Oops,
Pairs trade short S&P, long gold
@Snoot. never bet on anything you think you totally understand. you’ll get bit.
Karl Denninger.. “How Long Before You Wake Up, Politicos”.. features a very sobering assessment of the currant situation: we are in a depression. Also features a direct appeal to America’s 150,000 cops.. VS 1,000,000 heavily armed gang bangers.. all because of insane, worthless drug laws that benefit nobody but shysters and hoodlums..
http://market-ticker.denninger.net/archives/1993-How-Long-Before-You-Wake-Up,-Politicos.html
@Bonn, For daily purposes, you only need to learn about 2,000 Chinese characters, and those in turn are made up of only 214 radicals, or constituent characters. To read a whole newspaper, requires about 4,000 characters. Classical Chinese does have the 10′s of thousands of characters you mention, but those are rarely encountered anymore outside literature. Even the less commonly used characters from Classical Chinese are made up of the same radicals. Chinese, and Japanese, learn to read and write Chinese characters by the time they’re 12. How many native speakers of English ever learn proper punctuation and spelling?
Hey, check it out. We can end the war on terror and make peace with the Muslim world. Just put everyone in jail! They hate for our freedom, so they should love us once we’re all incarcerated. Plus we can rebuild our manufacturing base by utilizing prison slave labor. Bam! That was easy!
I don’t ‘think’ I understand, ronron.
“the SDR was redefined as a basket of currencies, today consisting of the euro, Japanese yen, pound sterling, and U.S. dollar. The U.S. dollar-value of the SDR is posted daily on the IMF’s website. It is calculated as the sum of specific amounts of the four currencies valued in U.S. dollars, on the basis of exchange rates quoted at noon each day in the London market.”
http://www.imf.org/external/np/exr/facts/sdr.htm
Max: In the MBSs, with their layers of tranches, rumors surface from time to time that mortgages were duplicated, again and again, to create more of these insatiable monsters. Anyone doing work on that aspect of “documentation” from lien-holders in challenged foreclosures?
Thanks Max
The site talks about the US dollar value of the sdr: but the value of the sdr is being used as a pricing unit already:
“Because of its inherent equilibrium relative to any one currency, the SDR has been used to denominate or calculate the value of private contracts, international treaties, and securities on the eurobond market.”
http://www.allbusiness.com/glossaries/special-drawing-rights-sdr/4947095-1.html
@Snoot. the SDR may not be as significant as you think is what i’m saying. how could it have any cloat on the world scene. it’s debt. owned by iran china etc.
@Snoot. how much do the debtors get paid percentage wise from the SDR? you know the owners of the debt based fiat currencies in the easter basket.
Hey Max, I have an education in dealing with duplicitous market makers having been in the market from the mid 80′s. Let me offer this theory based on my experience. England sold most of their gold at multi decade lows!!!! Who do you think they sold it to? They have stripped the various holders of the physical bullion and horded it. They know better then anybody that the currency scam is destined to implode. History has repeatedly shown us this. Max besides being entertaining your are in the top of the class on knowing your stuff. Keep on keeping on. Thanks
B Bak @morrow
Ta songs I have sung
ROFL
@HenryRusty. who are “they”. hahaha
@Bonn. good night ya skinny fucker.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5JkHBC5lDs
Tis another fer ya en ya kids
Ronron
Snoot
SG
Cal Doc
Will
Jon
Snoot
Mikey
Stacy
Max
N Bonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
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2 youri
n meps tooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Hic
@youri carma
What Medina did was just awful. I listened to the tape. She agreed with the inteveiwer that anyone who believes the government was complicit in 911 is a dispicable person. Jones never asked Medina what she thought about 911 on his show because he knew it would be a ligtening rod for the campaign. Jones never asked Ron Paul about 911 for the same reason. Ron Paul does not think that the government was complict in 911,but clearly says that people who do are not dispicable, they have a right to ask questions and a right to say what they think. All Medina had to do was to answer the question like Paul ……..but she didn’t. It’s really bad. It’s for sure now that Austin is going to get another globalist in as governor and the New World Order carbon taxes are going to start being pulled out of the hides of people of Austin, Texas.
It also looks like the plane flying into the IRS offices in Austin is another false flag. The government is really going after Jones and all people who think that the 911 event was a false flag.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uttQLuW-qM4
Josephine – Chris Rea
@ naomi
Hmmm errrr
ya gatta understand politics even if ya right n ya don’nt have majority ya may as well hang yerself
Hic
We r waitin till other peeps wake up
ronron:
It’s the unit of account of the G20 banks with the new system of reserve to be in the sdr/unit, ronron. It is at the center of the international financial system and at center of the power dynamics of the 21century.
ronron:
You need to do some research for yourself before you dismiss me so casually: this reality will soon exceed all your expectations and not in a positive way.
“UNITED NATIONS, March 26 (Reuters) – A reserve currency system based on an IMF unit instead of the U.S. dollar, a proposal floated by China, could be phased in within a year, Nobel Prize-winning economist Joseph Stiglitz said on Thursday.
Stiglitz, a Columbia University economics professor who heads a U.N. expert panel analyzing the financial crisis and recommending reforms, addressed an issue that became a hot topic this week.
Asked at a news conference when the International Monetary Fund’s Special Drawing Rights (SDR) could replace the dollar as the top reserve unit, Stiglitz replied, “It could begin to be phased in next year.”
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN2650403720090326
I posted this before, ronron. Why do you assume I’m being imaginative?
I think the last thing Denninger said was the most important. There could be a war with China. It seems like the only way the US can get out of debt. Paying off those $trillions in debts to China just isn’t going to happen this century with the US economy what it is. But if US declares war on China then this is a valid pretext to cancel that indebtedness. What pretext for the war? Well, Taiwan would be enough. China could invade Taiwan, the US could mount a weak defense, but basically both sides would see this as a great deal “debt for Taiwan”
But to keep up appearances, there would probably need to be a shot or two fired somewhere in the S. China Sea. Its a bit like the “War” between the US and Spain in the Philippines.
@ Mep
Truly Old School Technology: p21 Gunnar Thompson Learned the Hard Way
Tis aint ta one but still
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngqd20aEiEU
Hic
Hi Max and Stacey,
Am I the only one having problems viewing this video? I’ve tried here, at Youtube, and ant Jessie’s and can’t get it to work. Always, love your show so it’s maddening that I can’t watch this report.