Stacy Summary: Reading this Business Insider piece about the second rate broadband in the US. This is true in my experience and it drives me crazy because for us, it is so convenient and fun to interview people via skype video but so few people in the US have the broadband speeds to deal with the bandwidth required. Check out, for example, our interview with Birgitta . . . that was done on skype video and the quality is nearly as good as satellite! I have friends who work in Hollywood for major studios and they still had DIAL-UP at home last year! How insane is that???
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Too dangerous technology. It destroyed the long distance providers in Canada in about 24 months !
Technology is ONLY great when it destroys monopolies.
Well in Asia in many areas they have super fast broad band and hard money ooo and apparently they make things too. All they have to do is eat more !!!
Hard times ahead for them
lol as Americans cant eat all the cake they make
lol
America is so insular and jingoistic it is incapable in realizing how backards we have become in the world….this ailment has afflicted my country since it’s inception…we have a huge inferiority complex so we puff ourselves up
@ Phil very important point within this !!!! OMG
LooooooK Out below,,,Everyone
, what the hell !!!!! I would have thought that anyone above a ratio of 3:1 should be classed as seventy, so what does the following reflect
Why 66:1 …………why at this point!!!!!!lol
JUST US says it all a dollar a day for six months to help someone get back to normal? Whats after 6 months????
Its beyond stupid !!!! it says it all or what is really going on and behind this!!!!
FOR EXAMPLE: !!!!!!!!!!
A person has ‘extreme debt’ if their debt to income ratio is greater than 66:1. For example, if they earn £10,000 and their debts are more than £660,000.
http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/credit-and-loans/dealing-with-debt/article.html?in_article_id=501069&in_page_id=62
Its becoming sereal My answer to this STUPIDITY !!!!
Waterfall economics is coming true, I read it on the net lol lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uNLj28iOyg&feature=related
Wow!
Didn’t you lads invent the internet et al ?
What went wrong?
USA in certain ways is like a real dangerous mental retard. Sorry. But it’s true.Stupid foreigners that still don’t get it.
Stupid Greeks. A good example USA runned stupid people. A lot like Canada.
Insane as some people may be, it is up to each person or business to choose the value of their connectivity. One thing for sure is if the government gets involved it will be worse quality and more expensive than open market solutions.
Gore invented the internet LOL and senator Rockefeller wants to turn it off. That really is insane.
I tried a few bandwidth tests and I get about between 2 and 13 megabits download, and up to 3 megabits per second upload.
@Wahrheit. keep us updated.
3 mb up 20 down here outside of Atlanta on a standard cable account. Can’t remember the last time it went down, it’s survived plenty of ice/snow/thunder storms. I’ve read that in most countries a comparable bandwidth would cost more than the ~$40/month I pay.
Me thinks the ‘broadband gap’ is the least of our worries, and that anything the FCC wants to do with the tubes will involve locking it down. For our safety, of course.
I was in a bandwith an drummer, trombone player, bass and piano..
what the fucks this reply shit max?
ooooooh! that hurts…
er…. guess!
Romano Prodi. “The region is now safe.” By the way this italian politician is the ex CEO of Goldman Sach in Italia.
http://boombustblog.com/Reggie-Middleton/1342-Greek-Crisis-Is-Over-Region-Safe-Prodi-Says-Liar-Liar-Pants-on-Fire-says-Reggie.html
Italia about to go bankrupt.
@M/E. a drummer
@Max. at the bottom of the page there is a respond prompt. teckno overkillo
Hollywood reflects life, or is it Hollywood reflects Wall St.
Now movies about “doing gods work”
http://www.smh.com.au/news/entertainment/film/hollywood-biblical-themes/2010/03/15/1268501437662.html
@Mongo
Dr. Bob’s Master Pattern says Silver on a down sell……but it may break up
So its either buy or dance!
No change really.
http://www.youtube.com/user/NATIANDYOU
Toodles.
An interesting phenomenon is thinking of how the racial digital divide in America, whites are more likely to have broadband, has created this virtual community of Tea Party activists, who are mostly white people, yet no one quite designed it that way.
Unfortunately, AT&T/Comcast kills every free, mass wireless broadband scheme, though there are a few in major metro areas.
say what you want, the USA is still #1
Born in the USA
springsteen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHc9PE-Fftc
toodles as in see you round like an apple?
listen ronron…
People have asked for this feature several times…
and then, afterwards, a handful of people bitch and moan…
then it gets taken away…
I suggest getting used to it, since it DOES allow for some order in the cacophony of intra-threads that develop…
Every other decent reply forum does it…
You still have the option of reading EVERYTHING all over again if you want…
@Max. also the response is better at the bottom of the page for all. you have to go back to much. useless. IMHO
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6222962197482540595#
So was eugenics and nazism. Born in the USA.
And the United Kingdumb.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6222962197482540595#
I’m I so daft that I never noticed the little reply thing on the post until now?
when did this happen?
I prefer the old giant clusterf(**) approach we were using…it was like being back in the mental ward of my youth
NO NO NO NO NO I DON’T WANT CHANGE
‘Every other decent reply forum does it’
since when is this a decent forum?
about an hour ago
no it was about thirty years ago
Yep, everything in a Holding Pattern.
mike
Ronron loves complaining. It’s fun being a groucho. It helps not murdering anyone. A little bit of moaning. Most sites are organized like that.
@Mike. hold on
I like the reply function.
Who feels like going out and getting me a bag of salt-n-vinegar chips?
@Mep. then why don’t you use it?
they should be organic, not chemically-flavored, non GM, potatoe chips – sincerely, Dan Quayle
well i missed this till now. never saw it till now. ok hide if you like
donuts M/A and x like it. cool
@X. just saw you hour old comment.
Didn’t have anything to say about broadband, etc.. That, and I have those damned chips on the brain. Can’t remember the last time I had those chips, but suddenly, they’re all I can think about.
(Well, those and cigarettes.)
The vinegar taste is not vinegar. It’s a petroleum aromatic. Yeah made why oil ! Not olive oil. Oil. The black stuff found in the tar sands.
get some chips and stay off the smokes.
ronron
timbits up 40% in two years
INFLATION
I’m gonna do that. Be back later when my cells are all packed with sodium.
reply function
like chArles, i’m not big on change
i have no opinion yes/no at this point
no law that says one cannot continue to post in a linear fashion
Hey Everyone
Thanks again for the awesome postings.
I heard this song from Eric Clapton today, Before You Accuse Me, Take a Look at Yourself.
It reminded me of the Icelandic and Greek citizens trying to deal with their leadership. Have a listen…http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfqKxtVEMlI
Good Night, Ya’ll!
I need a double-double with that! Got a loonie I can borrow? I keep losing mine in the chesterfield
@Dam it
Where is Illya K when you need him?
More on Iran invasion plans
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/strategy-and-tactics-iran-israel-theater-how-it-would-happen-114-page-close-look
Ronron
U so funny!!!Me show u a good Canadiana time!
I miss Illya.
true. what we need is “the human right” to high speed broadband. if only the government could come up with an internet tax. it would boost the economy by creating jobs in the broadband infrastructure business… of course if you’ve read Hazzlitt… maybe not such a good idea after all.
Speaking of OIL
Just watched a great classic called BOOM TOWN (1940)
Clark Gable and Spencer Tracy
Good flick…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boom_Town_%28film%29
They mention an oil field at the end that has an interesting history…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kettleman_North_Dome_Oil_Field
One thing that 114 page report didn’t mention was
what if IRAN hit Israel first?
With all their problems right now,
an Iranian strike would put Israel in a compromising position with the USA and UN hounding them NOT to escalate the issue…
This in turn may allow IRAN to actually develop their Nuclear Weapon capacity (I heard estimates that they can have a weapon developed by the end of the year)
Iran has no capacity to launch a direct attack against Israel…and their control over Hezzbolla is overstated (meaning nonexistent)…if they wanted to get nasty they could try and pop an oil tanker or two in the Persian Gulf,(push oil over 120 might be enough to cripple us now that we are mired in this tar pit of an economy) but America has that pretty well under control…Iran is left hoping that China and Russia won’t to try and corral the American behemoth
@Max and Stacy
While saying “sorry” the whole time.
This is how Canadians politely take over your site
“want” Russia or China “want” to yank our chain hard enough to balk at our plan to hem them in in Central Asia…g-d I am an ignorant F(*&*
Must read.
Banks get money, (the bailout) that gets borrowed from the same banks?
http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article17568.html
Florida real estate? Well….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPL4guf4BV4
Well, considering that Amadinejad wants to wipe Israel off the face of the planet, Israel has a problem. Okay, this is coming from a German Catholic Canadian. Bear with me. My Jewish brothers and sisters, throughout human history you have been mankind’s punching bag. Finally you have the balls to stand up to assholes. You have my permission (and if you want I’ll even take it to the Vatican) to take a nuclear missile and ram it up Amadinejad’s ass. You’d be doing everyone a big favour. And okay, we’ll even wait until you find the proper lubricant so he won’t be in too much pain during insertion!
uhmmm Ingrid do not wish to pick a fight with you, but I am in the camp that believes Iran is entitled to self defense and in this day and age that means Nukes, they fought a 10 year proxy war against their neighbor who invaded them on our behalf, and we are encircling them…with Nukes they assert their right not to be bombed.
as to the suffering of Jews, yes they have suffered, but pain doesn’t entitle you to inflict it upon others nor remove you from criticism in the world
sorry I have problems with ethnic nation states, sorta hold out hope for the universality of humanity
I would’ve smacked Israel a long time ago, their being our aircraft carrier in the region and doing some wet work for us doesn’t outweigh the cost they have cause for us in the region
sorry if I have to chose access to oil in the region or Israel, guess who loses that one
KY jelly all the way! STUDY YOUR HISTORY! I REFUSE TO FOLLOW THE TRAP. My parents taught me well, Amen.
uhmmm???? seriously have no clue what that means
Then I can’t answer your question! Unfortunately, my family has lived through history and it ain’t pretty. I am the only generation who hasn’t suffered severe shit. And I pray that my children don’t, and unfortunately it looks like they won’t escape it,
I don’t think you’ve read my past postings, but my parents lived through Nazi Germany. It might have been a curse to them, but it enlightened me and my sibblings on how the world works and how we are responsible for all people.
Unbelievable in what was the worlds most affluent nation, the US has been raped,pillaged and is now going to be dismembered by this gang of thieves.
Almost 39 million Americans received food stamps in December, the most ever, as the jobless rate hovered near a 26- year high, the government said.
Recipients of the subsidies for food purchases climbed 23 percent from a year earlier and rose 2.1 percent from November, the U. S. Department of Agriculture said Thursday in a statement on its Web site. The number receiving the benefit has set records for 13 straight months.
Food aid climbed as the national unemployment rate reached 10.1 percent in October, the highest since June 1983, and remained at 10 percent through December before easing to 9.7 percent in January.
An average of 40.5 million people will get food stamps each month in the federal fiscal year that began Oct. 1, Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack said last week. The figure is projected to rise to 43.3 million in 2011.
Nevada had the biggest increase in the percentage of the population receiving the coupons, up 49 percent from December, USDA figures show. Texas had the most recipients, at 3.31 million, topping California’s 3.11 million.
to the web folks who are smarter than I
the reply idea would be cool if there was a way that individual post could register the number of replies but keep them hidden unless clicked on…that way we could have the informal smorgasbord of information while those of us who occasionally get in piss ups with one or more folks can reply easier without just clogging up the whole page….and others who maybe interested in these children games can see how active they dust ups are…it would make the page cleaner and easier to navigate….without the constant scanning to see what the new comment was on
well going to bed…NIGHT NIGHT
the entire financial system is bust. But the big wigs are coming up with yet another excuse to make us beleive everything is just fine.
My question. Since this financical system is so bogus why not give millions to the average joe instead of the big banksters that already have the kingdoms and yaughts. What does it matter any more. Other than keeping the poor – poor and the rich- rich.
Moodys fears breakdown of social cohesion in UK, France, Germany and Spain:
“We are not talking about revolution, but the severity of the crisis will force governments to make painful choices that expose weaknesses in society”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/7450468/Moodys-fears-social-cohesion-as-AAA-states-retrench.html
It wont take much to trigger race riots in the UK. IMHO
thus exactly what the rich want the stupid peasants to do. Riot within themselves. While the rich dance merrily away at one party or another.
The peasants as usaul are being conned. Time to aim the attention of rath on the ones causing the problems. The elites. But the peasants will never figure that out.
@ ingrid
I have read your past post….two things, I repeat my statement suffering doesn’t entitle you to callousness, your family suffered through history, while mine had a grand ole time…100 million people were thrown into that great bonfire not just a select few, and history has ground down millions more
ask yourself a question how many women, children and old man do you want to cast into the next blaze to demonstrate “how the world works”
America unleashes her dogs on Iran how many Iranians do you think it will take to alleviate your fears and resentment
here is a secret “America doesn’t care about Israel nor should we, nor the Irish, Germans, Japanese or anyone else” we are freezing Iran to control overland and sea access to a vital resource to our leading competitors Russia and China….we are counting on people like you not noticing this but to yell at the “bad man” we tell you to
sheeple dont need broadband…TV takes care of most of their information needs..
Google 99% certain to shut its operations in China
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/dd69e680-2e06-11df-b85c-00144feabdc0.html
stupid is as stupid wants. Most folks don’t want to think about anything other than what they are told is good for them. I have no idea how so many people got so stupid. T.v. is part of it. Nutrition is part of it. But some folks are just blanking ari head morons.
Don’t believe the hype on our broadband in California.
I had a T1 line in San Francisco in 99′
Ron Howard was viewing mixes of his films in the 90′s from his house in L.A.
linked to Skywalker Ranch in Marin California in real time via ISDN.
Skype is great but not broadcast ready as we heard the other day when Max was on Alex Jones. It sounds decent and if you hook up via fire wire a good broadcast quality camera, with lighting it looks ok.
It’s good enough for many things but it drops out even if you have a good pipe.
Two skype accounts,two computers with a video audio switcher would allow for a redundant backup, if you want to use skype for your network backbone.
The current push to roll some more broadband out is to soak up some stimulus money wiring the second homes and vacation homes that haven’t been foreclosed yet. If you could get a free handout to roll cable to the sticks,would you ?
The cry goes out to wire all of rural America with the best of what those city dwellers got.
But the reality is that the consumer who is willing to pay the 50 to 150 a month for a fast pipe will have to be the type of person who could care less about the price.
They just want to make sure they have a good connection to play fantasy football while they’re at their beach house for the weekend.
Max,the casino gulag cannot be fully realized until all of the heartland is wired for some Farmville action. When the farmer puts down his shovel and picks up the mouse , we are toast.
Again, study your History. Ahmadinegad belongs to an Islamic sect that believes that the coming of their 12 Iman (or their Messiah) will depend on another war. Even the Ayatolloah Humani banned Ahmadinegad’s group for their extreme views. If I am wrong, show me? Religious or ethnic fundamentalism has been the world’s problems. And excuse me. have your parents been in a concentration camp!
And by the way Charles, this is what happens when you fight with a mum who works full time. No Bull Shit. Just give me the facts!!!!!!!!!!!
I have come across hundreds of White Papers, and research papers in general on the variable quality of the US broadband network.
To some extent, the lack of uniform high quality broadband network is not bringing the US down — but you have to look at the hyper rigid class and race system the US to see this.
Where to go for better broadband in the US…
1. Cities near an ocean fiber cable connection point.
2. Cities near Canada, but along the main fiber routes.
3. The US South — the region held inside or below the Mason-Dixon demarcation line — will always have a poorer broadband network. This point is important, as this area is where race and class determine everything. If you want good connectivity, migrate from this region and never ever return — as connectivity will only get better at a glacial rate.
4. Suburbs are important, some suburbs have very poor connectivity even in well connected metropolitan regions. Some may argue this is a race issue, and there is some truth in this.
5. Just be prepared to pay money for a good connection, that is the general rule — this is a class issue — not a connectivity issue.
6. Move to Canada — almost the ideal solution, as Canada’s net is not full of spaghetti routing that sill plagues the US. Point to Point traceroutes in Canada are mostly under 20 hops. You will have to move to a city along the main fiber optic lines, and some US physical connectivity rules remain … for you must remember that physical geography is a huge impediment to Canada having a better internet than it already has…
Please wake up
http://www.moneyasdebt.net/
ingrid, YOu aren’ t catholic are you. Cause you sure sound like one of those dumbo’s. The western media has misinterrrupted what the iran guy has said for years. And acutally he’s not far off. The west is an evil empire. WE know it. Everyone knows it. Its all about screwing someone else and getting more for us. Typical western values.
Americans, to some extent like some Asians — use the internet rather badly.
Optimal economic use of the internet takes time for any society, but societies that have deep underlining problems like the US and many parts of Asia have … makes this more difficult.
I view Twitter, Skype, Internet Messaging in general, … highly unproductive uses.
Using the internet beyond one’s national borders is very important — nations with low rates of external traffic most likely are better able to cope with severe economic change — as they can see it coming.
To some extent this model applies with respect to efficient internet use
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Bloc_information_dissemination
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:West_german_tv_penetration.svg
– lands of the clueless
as external broadcasters then are as important then as external websites are now.
Failing to use the internet in an intellectual way (on a regional basis) also can condemn regions to increased poverty and permanent economic indolence. Intellectual use does not correlate fully with high bandwidth, but 64 kbs + connectivity does help.
life suucks and then you die.
Just kidding. Hope everyone is preparing to find a sober driver for saint paddys day.
In the Anglosphere, businesses always have better internet connectivity than consumers.
Only in geographically constrained places like Korea, Luxembourg, Switzerland, Andorra, … do consumers have the same connectivity as businesses.
The real issues are :
1. Outages, that is to say is the net up 99% of the time…
2. Average connectivity speed, that is to say is the advertised rate available 75% of the time…
3. Use of protocols that don’t waste bits : BitTorrent is highly efficient in its TCP form, with less than 1% waste per 1.0 Gigabytes — and its newer UDP form is up to 60% better.
4. Dropping the non-intellectual idea of ‘always being available for messages’ is a huge help for optimal internet use — and can create huge overall spectral use of the medium.
(reissue, clarification)
4. Dropping the non-intellectual idea of ‘always being available for messages’ is a huge help.
With respect to optimal internet use, not being constantly available can create huge overall spectral savings and create better use of the medium.
Hey Jon,
If I weren’t one of the dummo’s, I wouldn’t b feelin’ the pain. I just hate it when the pain is misdirected. I have no agenda.
ingrid , glad your not a catholic idiot. But the western countrys are not all they try and appear to be. I’m sure you already know. A group of bankster familys that have through some great manipulation have taken control of the financial systems of the world. But the only problem. IT was all based on nothing. So now were paying the price. But the average idiot shouldn’t have to pay what was set up by from the banksters who set it all up. The banksters should be liable. At least that would be fair.
Didn’t mean any disrespect. I just don’t like religious people cause they’re so closed minded.
@ Ingrid ya livin in a dream world
Dinnerjacket doesnt want war
Do you need a History Lesson on how USA is after the Resorcess of the world And the last 40 years has been to focuss on the middle East ????
Which other Country has Forign Bases ????
Plz Wat makes USA so Special ??
once u wake up as a Citezen We all will appreciate it
Well Ya payin fer it through ya taxes fer Companys like Halliburton
Ya talkin nonsence on Iran ya have been misled
DinnerJacket was at a conference in an Iran University where the Students were talkin about how the US fed prints money outta thin air
Hic
Again people, no emotion. Just me me the facts.
ingrid, yah got to get your facts right. Whatever the t..v . says think the opposite.
Oks wat facts ya wanna talk about ?
Bases ?
How US Govt. fooled Saudi Arabia into tinking Saddam was gonna invade Saudi by showing him Doctored Sattlite pics ???
How Saddam Objected US Co.s Selling Side ways Drilling Equipment to Kuwait
Have ya seen American Drug war ???
Wat nonsence
If ya wanna continue to beleive MSM go ahead plz
Hic
FACT WHY DO YOU (AMERICANS ) HAVE BASES OUTSIDE YOUR COUNTRY ?
WHY ?
NOBODY WANTS TO INVADE USA !
HIC
And try and learn Arabic if ya guys so frightened of Iran
See what tey really hafta Say
Ooooh no I am American one language is all I need
Hic
I have no ajenda. I am searching for the truth. So please,explain to me, what Ahmadinejad’s religious convictions are?
Sorry Bonn Iranians are not arabic and speak Farsee , but your views are spot on
Who cares what his religious convictions are, its his actions that count. Iran (Persia) has not invaded or attacked a country for some 500 years
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NOBODY WANTS TO INVADE USA !
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As opposed to Europe, North America is physically separated from not only Europe and Asia — but even South America. The US is a vast expanse vs Europe. Many invasion plans of the US have been mooted over the centuries, but it is universally a logistic nightmare.
Since the US started its decline, post 1965 — it has become less and less worth invading.
With the US, if you want conquest — you have to use its internal mechanisms against itself.
This finance crisis has illustrated some of them, but not universally…
He wants Peace and Equality to Sell his Oil & Gas to the Higgest Bidder USA has a problem with this
Gulf of taunkin
170 mysterios Deaths around JFK
50,000 US marines dead in Veitnam
CIA involved in Drugs
Ya last 50 years of yer Country has been so Scandelous
WTC 7
Enron Scam
Rumsfeld mentioning on 9/10/2001 He cannot account fer 2.3 Trillion Dollars missing from the Pentagon
All Facts Hun
I probably know more about your History than you and I’m Indian living in India
Hic
And sorry, Jon. We’ve moved to a rental and we don’t have TV. And why are Jews still the topic of conversation? It is fine to disagree with Israeli policy, but I finding a deeper stench! And that’s coming from me. People, when are we going to evolve?
lololololol
Hic
One of the main Reasons they went after saddam the 2nd time is Cause he started selling his Oil in Euroes
Need Confirmation on tis toe
Hic
Show me the facts. No one hesitated when I asked about HAARP! Hmmmmm!
Just checked- speed down: 4.45Mbs, up: 0.65Mbs. I have ATT’s cheap DSL service, because that is what is available out here in the sticks. Yeah, I can’t understand people with dial up, but there are so many people here who just have no clue about computers. I don’t, and won’t, have a TV, but they will pry my DSL service out of my cold, dead fingers.
I think the reply button is great, now the comments are in order, instead of several pages later. Change happens; embrace it and make it your own.
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Check out, for example, our interview with Birgitta . . . that was done on skype video and the quality is nearly as good as satellite! I have friends who work in Hollywood for major studios and they still had DIAL-UP at home last year! How insane is that???
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If you see “Alistair Cooke’s America” — he was in LA before its real boom era.
There is some 1970s footage of LAX region areas being opened up for settlement. Some of these areas are quite isolated. There are hundreds of neighbourhoods that have severe telecom problems due to physical geography related reasons. Yet, the LAX region has very good connectivity in the Gigabits to Terabits region.
Read a map or use Google Earth and your friend’s dialup problems may become obvious. If that fails, go back to the race and class issues the US has — that will probably explain any nuances that may not be obvious.
Iceland only has, I believe — one fibre incoming (Europe) and one fibre outgoing (Americas).
If there is a cable break, some severe rerouteing would be needed for about 2 weeks …
Slow highspeed www connectivity means great connection rates and no congestion — and this landmass only has 250,000 people.
Do the math and read a map…
@ Ingrid
We are all not Confirmed on HAARP
(And I dont have facts on HAARP)
Not me at least But there are Curious Treatys that have been Signed by Countrys which make no Sense
Like ya cannot use weather weapons in a War
Why Sign a treaty when a Technology so Outrages does’nt Exisit ?
One last time, don’t base it on emotion. Show me, scientifically that what I am saying is wrong. Just like you would any argument. If you can’t, then step back and wonder why you can’t?
Hun If I could Explain Each Scietific Process I Would right now be Creating another Earth
Unfortunately I am just a Comp. Sc. Engg. With a self learned Degree in History @ least me tinks So
Hic
@Bonn
In reality Europe and the USA will soon be at war wiht countries like China and India. It concerns also India, not just China. There no place on Earth for this “American Dream”. You just have to extrapolate the growth rate of energy consumption in India and in China to conclude there is going to be a third world agains the developing countries like yours by the USA. I’d be really worried if I was a indian industrialist. The agenda is quite clear. MONOPOLY of what’s left of oil and gas in the Middle East and Central Asia.
Wow, this is what happen’s when you deny a Canadian mum her Timmy’s!
http://vodpod.com/watch/1969860-jul2709
Heres one fact Rumsfeld 2.3 Trillion Dollars missing Pentagon 1 DAY b4/9-11
WW III Bonn is coming. In reality it started in Irak and Afghanistan. Next chapter of the thrid world war ? Iran. You have good chances of seing it spreading to Africa. No illusion. Resources based colonial wars. Nothing new under the sun.
American Drug War: The Last White Hope: Pre Release Cut
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CyuBuT_7I4&feature=related
Do I hafta go and dig up all me Facts
lolololololol
Hic
I could Dig up Catherine Austin Fitts fer the Drug thingy as well
Hic
Rumsfeld. The GOD industry. Guns Oil and Drugs. Another GOD’s envoy. Rogue state USA, You will notice Bonn that the main victim of the Pentagon’s bloodsuckers is the taxpayer.
War is a racket first for the poor US citizens. It was the case in the ex USSR. It was the case for the Roman Empire taxpayers. The mechanic is always the same. And it is the case in the USSA. Eventually you will have to sacrifice the butter to buy the guns. Guns and no butter.
Empires make your poor. The USA is about to learn this lesson. On the surface everything looks just fine. On dee down ? Deep down ,,,,,,,,,,,
http://mises.org/store/War-Collection-P497.aspx
Super and superb collection of books on the Economics of War. The enemy of the US economy is the arm’s business and the Pentagon.
Hey tis new Format is confusing
And I am Gonna proove it too
Stacey
I will start replyin to the First comment
Meaning we have no clue where the last comment is posted
Ya got a crapy S/W advisor
Hic
Tis Reply ting werks fer Facebook cause ya get notified Via mail
But it serves no purpose here IMO
Cause tis is a fast moving Discussion Debate Arena
lolololol
Hic
If I am living in a dream land, then why isn’t anyone coming up with links opposing my view? If I disagreed with HAARp, I would get at least three people linking me up. No emotion, just give me the facts!
Given that the US is in its own right a failed state lo these many years — this book should be a US best seller ….
Deleting the State: An Argument about Government
Aeon J. Skoble
Spring 2009
Volume 15, Number 1
http://mises.org/misesreview_detail.aspx?control=355
Goin’ to bed. I hope to wake up to find links opposing my thoughts. If not, u got to wonder why?
Wait Checkin me mail
lolololololol
Hic
@ ingrid We dont have Facts on HAARP !!!!!!!!!!!!
we only SPECULATING
But the other Topics I could get ya facts
But do some researchin yer self
I found a Vid In which a Chick from oneof yer Universities Asked Russians fer thier Sattilite Pics in ’91 And during that period only 5 or 6 Countries had Sattilites up there very few on reconacince Russia was one of ‘em When she checked the Russian Sattelite Pics there was no Mass amount of troops and tanks on the Saudi border by Saddam
Now I saw this 2 years back . For me to go Dig up someting I saw 2 years back Cummon
Hic
@ Ingrid
One more fer ta facts
Greenspan says Iraq war is all about oil!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRAlF2K49S8&feature=related
Hic
well said. relocate Israel to Florida I say (and I think Max has said it once or twice too – good on him)
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I did’nt go through the previous thread till now
Crap missed the Ping Pong match
ROFL PMSL
Hic
Hey! We got a war to fight against those dastardly Talibs. We have priorities to maintain. We can’t do everything, for gosh sakes…maybe next year, after we win in Afghanistan (but before we start in on Iran)..
Nigerian-born supercomputer scientist Philip Emeagwali speaks about how high speed data cables can connect Africa.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_depth/sci_tech/digital_giants/8561413.stm
16 March 2010 (MarketWatch) Google fiber foray produces good press, scant details
‘Cisco written all over it’; Will the Internet giant use internally-designed gear? http://www.marketwatch.com/story/googles-fiber-experiment-details-still-scant-2010-03-16
Halliburton charged with selling nuclear technology to Iran
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0giXvhEWMo
Apparently the problem isn’t the iranian nuclear program itself,
but rather, who gets to broker the deal.
And the closer you look at these things the uglier it gets.
Scandal over US-supported Sunni insurgents in Iran
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0giXvhEWMo
as always, uncle sam is on both sides of this ‘war’