Stacy Summary: Good morning! Hope it’s a nice spring day where you are. Or a nice autumn day for those down under. And, re: cutting off the cash article, I believe Max has been making that suggestion for four or five years now . . . ?
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It seems the Obama admin tries to diffuse the myth the US depends on Israel in any way, as Bibi undercuts any negotiation before coming to the US. Apparently Bibi has something up his sleeve, or is bound by his government to ram the bull or be dismissed (like a true gladiator, the more likely scenario)..
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8579273.stm
First! oh yeah!
I would recommend The Israel Lobby by John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt to y’all. Bloody tough going but very informative.
US will never cut funding to Israel at least not the military spending (90% of funds?)
Relax y’all http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEYepr0Zm1E
@Mother – there is no need for Bibi to offer anything; he knows Obama will capitulate, of course; in Israel, it must feel like what it felt like to be an American during the post 911 to pre-invasion of Iraq when the only voice inside America being listened to and amplified was the evangelical, neo-conservative, far right when, in reality, most Americans were far more sane; inside Israel there is a much less cartoon version of the situation than what we are allowed to hear and know outside of the country
@Danny – I think you will find you are second
Yes Stacy – I am. I’m very disgruntled about it.
Schiller – Double Dip / I smell a bubble in China
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQ3-PRx2q6E&feature=related
Israel has been set-up and supported for a reason not to drop them 40+ years later. Neo-cons/wallstreet love war in the middle east (nothing more profitable than speculation on oil/resources, destruction, reconstruction, increasing debt etc.) and ‘end timers’/christians who believe in revelations (are more than 70 million in the US) see all misery in the world as a sign that when the final war in the middle east begins their savoir will return. Beside with hyping Iran to justify ‘military aid’ the people don’t really seem to care that much usually forget about it after an Selection. The fact that everybody is not taking on big pharma but complain about costs/cuts etc. shows the state of mind of the avarage person. The warspending isn’t in sight/in mind Obama even increased ‘defence’ spending. And a candidate who has gotten most money from goldman sachs/wallstreet would you expect he would defend the people’s interest and not pay full price? ok have to admit to pay even more than the fake imaginary debts/mortgages to people who cant afford it are worth is just another slap in the face of Savers/workers/humanright activists. Here’s some documentaries regarding israel: Occupation_101: http://tinyurl.com/yaoushj Death in Gaza http://ow.ly/12zqN Inside Britain’s Israel Lobby http://tinyurl.com/y9n78e5 The Israel lobby US http://tinyurl.com/y868mnv Iran is not the Problem http://tinyurl.com/yhyysy2
Anyways check out even more documentaries I’ve collected (not all I’ve seen; suggestions are welcome as well) http://www.twitlonger.com/show/hmiaa
@Stacy
Yes, but but, why would the US (Obama, Biden, Whatshisname) go so hard at these settlement (as if they want to level the playingfield for true peace negotiations with the palestinians) if they did not mean to persist? I would agree you can’t separate two fighting dogs (israel and the palestinians) and allow one to keep nibling on the others tail, that tends to prevent them from getting along. The israelis think they have the US by the cohones, but apparently they do not. Where does their power come from at this point ?
Btw, apparently Max could file a human rights case against the global corporations and banks, as they constantly reduce our ability to ‘peacefully enjoy’ our posessions..What do you think?
Buffet | Gov’t — same same. No wonder the yields are tracking one another.
US support for Israel is fomenting anti-American sentiment? Nah, really? Wow. And I was told after 9/11 that it’s because they’re jealous, and want what we have…shucks…
More hype or is the clock running out for Iran? ‘Netanyahu seeks US bombs for Iran attack’ http://presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=121389§ionid=351020104 I can remember israel saying in 2005/06/07 and even before that they will strike, even practised many times for the scenario. BTW i don’t think iran is ‘good’ the suppression of human/women rights yet the majority is actually a very young population beside they are PEOPLE too; differences can be bridged and we should focus on what we have in common: every person wants food/water/health care/shelter etc.
LETS PARTY SONG – Deek Jackson
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8cUDbpZbZM
Biden, Obama, etc act indignant re Israel.
Just an act.
Yo Mikey – when is gold gonna break 1100?
I like the shortcut icon for the site!
Wait a minute! Isreal just rocketed Gaza last night! Pourquoi? Is this wag the dog hubris propaganda for Bibi? Is Israel now simply using the palestinians as a hostage to extort the US?
http://presstv.com/sections.aspx?section=351020202
@EB, Soon, The great unwind is about to begin! check out goldcharts at the moment.
Hey I tot the Share tis would be great addition better tan the Reply option fer sure
Hic
Pento speaks.
Michael Pento on a Golden Summer.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMVPXAKhguo&feature=related
More Pento.
Cristal Clear…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0YuESrAu_o&feature=related
Victory for Bloomberg in Freedom of Information Lawsuit with Fed
http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2010/03/victory-for-bloomberg-in-freedom-of.html
Here’s Why Lehman’s Accounting Was Completely Bogus — And Why The Rest Of Wall Street’s Still Is
http://www.businessinsider.com/heres-why-lehmans-accounting-was-just-completely-bogus-and-why-the-rest-of-wall-streets-still-is-2010-3
Volcano erupts in Iceland, hundreds flee ( Hey max, remember when that Icelandic banker twat said this would never happen! ha!)
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE62K0CF20100321
Petrodollars threatening Amazon
http://www.lapress.org/articles.asp?art=6081
Re: Israel
Another Israeli hit, this time in Budapest?
Israel and Hungarian police deny link between low-flying Israeli planes over Budapest and shooting death of Hungarian-Syrian businessman. Hungarian Defense Ministry not informed of Israeli flights. (Wayne Madsen)
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/reuters/100319/world/international_us_hungary_israeli_planes_1
Brazil’s Lula does not back down in face of Israeli posturing.
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/LC18Ak03.html
Latest David McWilliams
Fitzpatrick didn’t act alone
http://www.davidmcwilliams.ie/2010/03/22/fitzpatrick-didnt-act-alone
@Danny … Danny …. Hungarian Defense Ministry not informed of Israeli flights
LOL … ” no it wasn’t me ”
I mean, we fly planes over Hungary every day !
ROTFLMAO
Hey, that’s just around the corner from us !
Man Israel is a crazy nation tey always upto no good
Any Idea What Business the business man was into ???
Shows swap fraud not limited to small U.S. banks & towns but was a global scam http://bit.ly/9yaCvh. Simple solution: don’t pay
“My fellow Americans, tonight I’m going to talk frankly about a pesky little nation called Israel … ”
By ALEXANDER COCKBURN
http://www.counterpunch.org/cockburn03192010.html
I dont think cutting off the cash will succeed; I have worked with Israelis in the past and they absolutely believe they are in a fight for their very survival. My grandfather fought the Haganah in the desert and one of his duties was to repel boatloads of Holocaust survivors from the shore. Looking at their history going back 2000 years it isnt surprising. In fact I wonder if it is possible for a whole people – Israelis and Palestinians- to suffer from post traumatic stress disorder, with the Israeli root causes going back centuries.
I support grassroots organisations which are run jointly by Arabs and Jews in Israel – mostly tackling drug abuse – and have come to believe that peace can be built from the bottom up. But it isnt helped by western media (i guess US media is different), UN officials and even peace activists assuming that all aggression is rooted in the Jews and any Arab aggression eg rocketing Ashkelon/Sderot is just a justifiable reaction. I am watching the court case of Rachel Corrie with great sadness and wondering if things would be different now if peace activists also stood in front of Hamas rocket launchers.
Sigh…
I also saw One Journalist went to Israel to check ta facts of howmany peeps were killed she Stayed tear fer 2 months
ten headed back to USA and just by chance she went through 2 months Newspapers
She found tat there was complete opposite of wat happened/reported during ta 2 months in she was away
When 180 Israel’s were Reported Killed per month when in actual 40 were Killed
When 160 Palistines were Reported Killed per month when in Actual 400 were Killed
She was Appauled Trying to Find tat Vid but I tink I saw tis on MSM I tink
Israel Keeps hiding behind tat Holocust Sh!t ohh how sad tey were Persecuted So now tey entitled to do wat tey want
what in year 2060 also ya gonna use ta same Excuse ?????
Get over it Its tee Past it happened 60 years back
And mind ya 60 years back ya did’nt have a freakin Country 64 years back to be Exact
Hic
@paganrongs – you can’t equate the rocket launchers to bulldozers; the more accurate comparison would be between Palestinian rocket launcher and Israeli fighter jet; if Corrie had been killed by an fighter jet, it would not have caused as much outrage for as it is, she was run over by a man who could see the human being standing in front of him; and when I visited Israel, I didn’t encounter anyone in my 10 days there that in anyway presented themselves as a victim as the country is portrayed in the US media; and yes there are lots of grassroots organizations there, lots of them, but NONE get ANY coverage in the US MSM; Amy Goodman does a good job covering them, however
Abama pretends to be pissed at Israel for building in Gaza.
Meanwhile he is shipping missiles over there.
Nothing ever changes.
Ok, some things do, but not these things.
Good grief Stacey, I did not mean to imply for one minute that the driver shouldnt face the full force of the law if he deliberately ran Rachel Corrie over. I am not surprised you didnt come across a victim mentality in 10 days there. That is the thing with PTSD/paranoia, it often isnt big-eyed and appealing.
@paganrongs – I didn’t come across it because most people don’t see themselves as victims; it is the neo-cons and the Israeli warhawks that try to paint themselves as this in order to justify their crimes
@Mini US – building in the West Bank; in this oil-less region of the Middle East, it is not follow the money, it is follow the water
Unless Israel can find support from China or India going forward, it’s fate is tied with the American empire.
Regrettablement gray and rainy as the politics and the economics in the USA in Montréal. Spring ? What a funny name for a season ? Spring sprang a gray and rainy health care bill. The sun has decided to stay away and not spring out of bed.
Good morning, Stacy:
http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?i=4458174
Hey Israel. Dear Israel go suck an egg to calm your nerves.
@snoot – “Germany and Israel are intensifying negotiations over a nearly 1 billion euro ($1.45 billion) naval procurement package, a considerable portion of which Israel hopes to fund from a combination of German and U.S. aid.”
Just like the US ‘cash for clunkers’ program actually helped Japan with their auto industry
@Stacey, I give in, you are a big gun and I am a party squawker
http://www.partypieces.co.uk/product/party+planning_kids+party+accessories/1712.htm
Also I have noticed MA now on board so am signing off before I get beaten up.
History will show that the first 9/11-like attack was done by a group headed by Menachem Begin (later PM of Israel) in the 1940′s. A multi-storey hotel was blown to the ground in Jerusalem and 22 Brits, amongst others, died there. The terrorists who planted the bombs shot and killed innocent people as the fled from the building, after having planted explosives on the supporting basement columns. Just like Ariel Sheron who turned the jackals loose on women and children in Sabra and Shatilla, the American public will never hear about these things…
@paganrongs – give in? as there is so so much propaganda on this topic and about this region, it would be better if you didn’t; more insight and opinion the better at establishing a better picture of what the reality is; I was just saying that in my few days there I met quite a lot of people and none of them were as what the American audience is told (it could be I just met a unique group of people there??)
Off Topic
@ Stacy
Tey dont use Planes , tey use tees AH-64 Apache ·KILL MACHINE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoL47s9XvRY&feature=related
Helicopter Gunships
FOFOA
“Inflation is a man-made scourge, made possible by the fact that most men do not understand it.”
http://fofoa.blogspot.com/search?updated-min=2010-01-01T00%3A00%3A00-08%3A00&updated-max=2011-01-01T00%3A00%3A00-08%3A00&max-results=10
We all better get creative!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULiNR-k4m70&feature=PlayList&p=8AACB953AFE19A53&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=72
@Stacey, I adore you. In a British woman to woman way. No, that would involve getting drunk…vomiting…sleeping on a park bench wearing a skirt the length of a belt…
http://www.javno.com/en-world/german-arms-exports-breaking-records/254061
Market share arms exports:
“Thus, Germany, which holds a 10-percent share on the world market of arms exporters, found itself behind the United States of America (31 percent) and the Russian Federation (25 percent).”
http://www.thelocal.de/national/20100315-25881.html
Morning Stacy, morning Max
Ok, bright & cheery Monday……………WHERE IS T O B ?????
Mike
@paganrongs – lol, you’re british? then you should know that I could be talking out of my bottom here and stand ready to be corrected!
I did not know that story. How can anybody decide to simply run over a protester? Only on acount of bigottedness? How many israelies are this mental?
http://www.salem-news.com/gphotos/1249275616.jpg
Dammit, that makes me adore you more…dont feed my Stacey/Max addiction.
Seriously tho, hubby and I are about to embark on a major life change fuelled by this blog…terrifying, exciting…will start to fill u in on details once we have started it…
Yes: Germany and US
The Transatlantic Alliance.
http://www.state.gov/p/eur/rls/rm/2009/124870.htm
http://www.nato.int/strategic-concept/strategic-concept-bibliograpy.html
The new pivot includes an increased German export market for arms as Karl zu Guttenberg quietly announced at Davos.
US has operation of 1/3 of the arms export market. Indeed, the recent euro/Greece debacle enhanced the German export market for arms through a weakened euro.
@Mike/Loverpool,…..I think there’s a holding pattern,..it’s dead !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJQwHwP0ojI&feature=related
Me Pop Has fired a 6000 round a minute Machine Gun (or was it 3000 anyways ) from a Chopper . He said ta freakin Noise is unbeliveable its like BAARRRRRRRRRR Plus te Chopper tends ta move back a little from ta Recoile plus tee Devastation is phenomenal During Testing tat is
Hic
@Mother,..I’m not being funny,.but the protester should really have gotten out the way,.I mean,.c’mon !
Are folk “really” that stupid nowadays,..really,..my gast is flabbered ; )
@Fibon11235
Those that want you to be passive present whateve they do to you as an act of nature, a scourge. Inflation has no noticable donwside to the issuers of money, it allows the suppression of those that amassed some wealth and influence, it allows the appropriation of property and manhours. It is simply attractive to do. The only method to fight it is to refuse to use the money that is being printed.
@Dedo
That comment is sickening. Where is your mind. What was at stake? The man wanted to finish the job that day and decided to crush a young woman. You are a lunatic.
Mikey: gold testing 1100…
@Mother,…The protester had the opportunity to get out of the way,..I call the choice she made to stand in front of it sick,..call me old fashioned,..but children have better sense!
Get off your high horse!
Greek policy has been a recipe for failure
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/commentary/greek-policy-has-been-a-recipe-for-failure/article1507668/
@ Dedo
I found it Funny Cause tear are other ways to Achive ta same Goal
If ya have a mad cap (lunatic) behind ta wheel . Ya dont put up yer hand and say “STOP !”
@Bonn,.Thankyou bud,.at least you see sense,..
Like you suggest there are far more intelligent ways of stopping a bulldozer,..folk just don’t use their noggin’s : )
Fer Example Put Salt in ta Fuel tank or sometin like tat
He’ll hafta Rebuild his Engine
ROFL
Hic
@Bonn,..lol, things we get up to as kids,..: )
@Bonn. a bottle of coke in the gas will ruin an engine. only thing it’s good for.
@Mother,..BTW, it wasn’t my comment that was sick, just your preconceived idea that I was the dozer driver !
@Dedo
No dude. Nobody forced the driver to commit murder, he did it all by himself. Even if he is a soldier he can be tried for it because she clearly was a civilian. Good luck with your sense of justice.
@Dedo – and I suppose the White Rose group should not have distributed those pamphlets if they wanted to live http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Rose
‘Gold prices edged lower in Europe on Monday as the euro retreated, but were set to remain in a relatively narrow range as traders awaited the outcome of talks on a bail-out of debt-laden Greece’
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE62H1MP20100322
@Stacy & mother,..If I warned you not to stick your fingers in an electrical socket and you ignored me, who’s the fool,..
You know I’m right, so,.both of you,..wind your necks in ! : )
I really do think you two are missing the point entirely,..but hey, I’m used to dealing with idiots,..: )
@Stacy : Thanks for that link, I never heard of the White Rose group before, although it seems that they were revered at the time, as their pamphlets were dropped across Germany by the Allies. Shame that kind of courage isn’t more widespread today…
@Stacy,..Seeing as you’re the cute one,..
If you personally were confronted with insurmountable odds,..how would you deal with it?
@Dedo
“I’m used to dealing with idiots,..: )”
I believe that immediately.
You fail to aknowledge control on the part of the driver. No judge would. You have no point.
Dedo: One article on the Beeb which I read described how Rachel Corrie did try to get out of the way once she had gestured her protest. The land beneath her moved due to the progress of the vehicle making her stumble. However, the driver did not seek any reassuarance that the girl was safe, he just sped on… according to witness’. Corrie was later pronounced dead.
Your fingers in the socket analogy is wrong. She would need to have her fingers in a socket which was off, only to suffer the misfortune to get the fingers stuck. At this point a man, observing her distress, could calmly switch on the mains and fry the young girl.
Boycott Catepillar. Better still, boycott coke.
@Dedo
Did someone steal your alias?
@ Dedo
I know Max would use ta Coke Route fer sure
lolololol
Hic
there huffin and puffin how great the health bill is over at the post. that news organization is shit now.
@Ptah
Thanks. You are knocking but it seems there is nobody home.
Boycott money!
You guys know you’re wrong,.no matter how you wriggle,..you worms!,..: )
Actually,..better still,..go and stand in front of a bulldozer,.and see how right you are ,..LOL
FT:
‘The latest FT/Harris poll showed 61 per cent of Germans opposed the idea of their government helping Greece cope with its budget deficit, with just 20 per cent supportive
‘EU leaders are likely to be horrified at the level of support for the idea of breaking up the eurozone – at least temporarily. Asked whether Greece should be asked to leave the eurozone while it sorts out its finances, 32 per cent of Germans agree
‘Some 40 per cent of Germans thought they would be better off outside the eurozone’
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/42fb3002-3551-11df-9cfb-00144feabdc0.html
googlenews german poll FT
@ Dedo
LOL plus in these Heavy machinary the Noise Polution it causes ya cant hear a freakin Ting . Tats why tey have SIGNS at places where Heavy M/cary is used
Brave of Stupid,..that is the question dear yorick
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-nXT8lSnPQ
Don’t you like all these difformed and monstruous babies in Gaza and Irak. Depleted uranium. A “wonderful” invention by the Tsahal used by the Canadian, British, Australian and American criminals against humanity and children we are. The five countries should be sued in an international tribunal at la Hague for crimes against humanity. I would love to see Stephen Harper, that canadian fascist doing time with Milosevic. Have you seen the nice results ? The war continues because radioactivity stays there for many centuries. How do you call this ? Genocidal armament ? Probably the invention was designed with USA money.
CrossTalk on Billionaires: The money tumor
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7moo-O2Rok&feature=sub
I suppose one can argue that might is right. A tractor is mightier than the body of a girl etc, and in the logic of at leat one commenter therefore justifies the act as being right.
However, that would imply that if The USA withdrew financial support from Israel due to its financial problems and Israel received some ‘might’ from its neighbours that would also be right.
I do not agree with that arguement.
Has Germany just killed the dream of a European Superstate?
“German and Dutch leaders have concluded in the nick of time that they cannot defy the will of their sovereign parliaments by propping up a country that lied about its deficits, or risk court defeats by breaching the no-bail-out clause in Article 125 of the EU Treaties.
Chancellor Angela Merkel has halted at the Rubicon. So has Dutch premier Jan Peter Balkenende, as well he might in charge of a broken government facing elections in a country where far-right leader Geert Wilders is the second political force, and where the Tweede Kamer has categorically blocked loans for Greece.
The failure of EU leaders to cobble together a plausible bail-out – if that is what occurs at this week’s Brussels summit – is a ‘game-changer’ in market parlance.”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/comment/ambroseevans_pritchard/7494718/Has-Germany-just-killed-the-dream-of-a-European-superstate.html
@Ptah,..wake up fool,.I didn’t say it was right, that the guy should run her over,..HELLOOOOO (to much fluoride me thinks),..I said she was wrong to put herself in harms way,..and so it’s her fault!
Tell you what,.go and play with the traffic,..and come back and tell me if it’s fun!
@dedo – your argument suggests nobody should ever stand up to empire, occupation or oppression because they WILL be killed; indeed, those thousands that died on the Normandy beaches knew there were German guns pointed at them, so they deserved their deaths for choosing to land
What a Topic tis is real Fun
ROFL IMO we wasting too much Time on it
Hic
BTW: Y’all,..Just a few wise words for ya,..
Waving flags isn’t the best strategy for getting things done,…
What’s the definition of madness,…doing the same and expecting different results,..whistle while we work,..tum de dum de dum do daaa : )
@Stacy,..read previous comment!
@Stacy,..They didn’t choose,..they were ordered,.wake up and smell the coffee (Re: Normandy)
We have otter tings to FRY IMO
and the argument goes to: Stacy for http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Rose
very inspiring… Stand up for what’s right no matter what consequence… It’s ridiculous to say; the person should’ve moved… More ridiculous that the desperation of people put them up to these kind of actions…Even though there are more efficient ways to reach peace and there is always more than 1 side on a story, no one has the right to kill another person EVER (even self defence is bull, always more options/choice)….
16,500 new IRS agents needed to enforce Obamacare
“A new analysis by the Joint Economic Committee and the House Ways & Means Committee minority staff estimates up to 16,500 new IRS personnel will be needed to collect, examine and audit new tax information mandated on families and small businesses in the ‘reconciliation’ bill being taken up by the U.S. House of Representatives this weekend. ”
http://www.house.gov/apps/list/press/tx08_brady/3_18_10_IRS_Expansion.html
…this fits in with Karl Denninger’s take on the bill
Have IQ’s really dropped that much,..fk sake!!
I didn’t say not to stand up for what one “believes”,..there are just better strategies,.you plonkers,..(I’m wasting my time here, I know it)
But hey,..I’m havin’ fun,..: )
E M P A T H Y
@Dedo
So it was her fault she got run over by a man that could have decided not to. If he had nothing would have happened and she would not have been able to make her ‘mistake’, so who’s ‘fault’ was it ultimately? You are dumb, go dig trenches.
@Paganrongs
So screaming inflation for Greece (in their own currenct). If the IMF bails them out that will be the end of the IMF. All people I talk to tell me they will drink more ouzo and eat moet souflaki
BTW:,..You tank/bulldozer stoppers deserve everything that’s a comin’,..( I really am amazed!)
Truly,..I am,…(walking away shaking head)
@Dedo
We are trying to allow you come to your senses. Are you against personal sovereignty (decide if you want ot be a murdere or not)? Would you have carried on like the bulldozer driver?
@Mother,..yep,.I’ll dig them for ya,..
And you can climb out of them when the whistle goes,.okay, smarty pants! : )
@pagan : wouldn’t it be nice if those were doctors, rather than tax collectors? change you can believe in!
The only thing that is more complication than the US health system is the US tax code….looks like they will soon be one and the same…
@all/y’all:
The state is warring against the common people. The german/eu state is coordinating with international financial interests to succeed in enabling an elite liquidity bloc. Regional currency zones will enable free trade from the Atlantic to the Pacific across the Eurasian belt. Wars are fought for the right to dominate trade. Global trade is the engine of the nwo which finds a hegemony through a new reserve system. US dollar paper standard is an anachronism. The press tells tales. History is written by the rich/elite for laughs.
Dedo’s right.
There is probably some money hiding/ laundering that keeps those in charge compliant. Mind control.
Then there is the strategic placement near the Suez.
Snoot, I thought the German resistance to bailling out Greece would lead to a falling apart of economic union and therefore flew in the face of elite (I hate that term, they are not elite, they are parasites. Ticks. Fleas) plans for moving towards an unelected, unaccountable financial union. No?
Once a nazi, always a nazi Snoot. They are still in power in Berlin. No doubt about it. It’s like the American eugenists. Right wing piss. In Israel. In Germany and in the USA. All working for the banksters. Germany is proving that it will never change.
@paganrongs,.whether you like the term elite or not, doesn’t change the fact that they are!
Don’t bury your head in the sand like most of the plonkers on this site!
Isn’t that right Mother? : )
Ticks…fleas…boils..zits…tapeworms. I like that. Global financial tapeworms. Not burying my head just like to spit in the face of a hurricane occasionally.
Shall we drum up some more stories from history? That is surely the impetus for our idealistic fervor. Throw ourselves in the volcano as the surety of sacrifice? Find comfort in the familiar things? Blame inequality, capitalism, freemarkets, speculation, Americans, Greeks, paper money, Greenspan, Wallstreet, et.al.: blame everything and everyone.
Follow the pied piper. His music is sweet to hear! Blame history: it’s always the same story over and over and over.
Dogpile.
Ooops.
Sorry Marc.
Blame Nazis.
@Snoot
You are predictable, I can design an Autosnoot
Gents, what are we lamenting with the loss of the Eurozone ? If it doesn’t work becuase the currency can not balance itself in the dynamic and fraudulent environment then what is lost? Ah! Snoot reminds us: banker power abuse. This unproductive despots with their BIS and global currency fantasies. They sould be prosecuted like Christians in early Rome.
Just don’t shoot the pianoplayer (famous coward words of the officer protecting Sebrenica)
@paganrongs,…I remember (when a child) filling my mouth with lighter fuel, just before I opened the door to a friend,..ignited the flame as soon as I opened the door to incinerate him,.but the backwash from the door burned my eyebrows off : ),..live and learn.
Never used that strategy again, cause it didn’t work,.lol
@Mother Earth:”We are trying to allow you come to your senses. Are you against personal sovereignty (decide if you want ot be a murdere or not)?”
“This unproductive despots with their BIS and global currency fantasies. They sould be prosecuted like Christians in early Rome”
now that makes sense…. or not… The banksters are just a product of the environment/society we have created… Don’t buy into the bible shit of Good and Evil… Only will lead to more unnecessary human suffering (as seen trough history), even though some choices seem irrational/totally ‘evil’ they come from a lack of understanding/information values indoctrinated by the surroundings a person grew up in.
@Dedo…but it lives on and brought a chuckle to a Brit this very day…
while i have respect for those who challenge bulldozers and storm the beaches at normandy, i would point out that it is usually the young who are stupid enough, ideological enough or whatever enough to do these things. I walked the rice paddies nearly 40 years ago but my attitude now is “what was I thinking?”
@Mother,…There’s a reason for the Big Picture on the front of the box,…it helps to put all the pieces together,..
@White Hunter,…Yes,..”Thinking”,..a very rare commodity (if one could bottle it) : )
@AM
Bankers are a product of their own progressive opportunism. They have no function other than the one they force you to accept.
1. Keep gold safe (honest job)
2. Make gold notes (honest service)
3. Make nore notes than you have gold (a lie/crime)
4. Negotiate a fractional bankng law (a crime)
5. Appropriate lifes, goods and services and build on this allowing exploitation of our planet.
Question: Can you print money? Why not? Can you borrow to your neighbour against 14% if you don’t have the money? Why not? And if you do? Why not? What the fuck is going on?
Why April Will Be A Huge Test For The PIIGS
http://www.businessinsider.com/april-will-be-a-huge-test-for-the-pigs-2010-3
@Mother,…Why not!,..are you really that naive,..I don’t want to believe it,..nah,…you can’t be,.
@Mother Earth: All consequence of the values picked up from the environment they grew up in… Welcome in the ‘real’ world; It’s all an illusion…what lie do you want to buy so you can believe there’s an silver bullet/scapegoat etc. Or embrace reality of the incompetence of the current system and start critically thinking about real solutions… Gold is not an solution its an step back not forward… Do you want to repeat history again? I’m getting tired of this constant rewind…
Yes, Mother, but the question lies within the ECB and the power the institution retains. Greece may be deemed unsavory but not categorically unassailable. Lesser, true, but necessary.
They are only playing their little games, Mother. What’s the real agenda?
We will see how quickly the snake rears its head. That which is whispered is spoken.
Still no inquiry. Still no answers. http://davemiller.org/drawings/austerity/still_no_answers.png
@AM
I don’t know what you want, but what you make of what you are handed down is your prerogative. I think we could do much better that the current system. Nobody seems to benefit from it.
@Snoot
A bailout had to be out of the question becuase it would amount to handing over industrial output to the US (do you see that). What happens now is not that important, but imho local currencies are better, and if they are based on metals they can have a fixed exchange rate (which does not mean there have to be equal amounts in circulation).
This unproductive despots with their BIS and global currency fantasies.
Mother:
The despots are incredibly productive and set on course to fulfill the Plan, not fantasy, which they have the ill-wrung power to maintain because they already own the dollar-paper-standard-system. Gold is a barnacle on this ship about to sink to the bottom. The new steamer is full of deck chairs for the privileged members and proprietors of a world order based on privileged access to liquidity and sapping off everybody else.
Ignoring the new reserve system is like standing in front of the eminent-domain bulldozer for the sake of ‘peace’. It’s suicide.
Dedo: “I said she was wrong to put herself in harms way,..and so it’s her fault!”
I guess the courts will decide that. Unless you have inside info.
Tell you what,.go and play with the traffic,..and come back and tell me if it’s fun!
That the best you got lol….
@Ptah,..The courts will share the money out,.yep,..
or is there something about the justice system you know, that I don’t?
Mother:
One of the chief pillars of the despot-agenda-program is the climate change angst servicing their necessity-bound power vector. If we all have to work together or perish then must needs we maintain the old system within the context of a new international financial system. The new system will utilize the people’s need to expell carbon against the people.
Of course science has nothing to do with the new reserve/trade dominion and the future global international clearing union. But science can be bought for a price to service their needs.
You seem rather inconsistent. If I truly believed we were heading for a global deluge, I’d be willing to put up with the incumbent criminals.
@Stacy
This may have been posted, but this chart and explanation are an eye opener.
http://economicedge.blogspot.com/2010/03/most-important-chart-of-century.html
“This is because total income can no longer support total debt. In the third quarter of 2009 each dollar of debt added produced NEGATIVE 15 cents of productivity, and at the end of 2009, each dollar of new debt now SUBTRACTS 45 cents from GDP!
This is mathematical PROOF that debt saturation has occurred. Continuing to add debt into a saturated system, where all money is debt, leads only to future defaults and to higher unemployment.
This is the dilemma created by our top down debt backed money structure. Because all money is backed by a liability, and carries interest, it guarantees mathematically that there will be losers and that the system will eventually reach the natural limits, the ability of incomes to service debt.”
Gold getting KILLED!
Mike
It takes two to tango. My question is what does it take for Hamas and Hezbollah to behave not just during negotiations with Israel but, towards their own people. They pocket all the aid money designated to help the Palestinian people, just like the leadership did in Haiti and in other countries. But then again I wish I knew what it would take for our own leadership to behave. Look at what they are doing to us?
” Because all money is backed by a liability”
SDRs and monetary gold (gold on the books of central banks and imf institutions-ECB) do not have corresponding liabilities. These units are created by fiat by decision of the IMF board.
http://unstats.un.org/unsd/nationalaccount/AEG/papers/m4SDRs.pdf
@Y’All
OK time to get some internt kicks… SKIMMER and FILTER… SKIM and… yeah, yeah a lovely SPRING day and summer time starts next week… don’t take it personally Y’All…. but PHEW, what a relief when the the comments are chock full of the childish and drunken regulars… saves a lot of time on reading through the comments… 130 or so done in a flash… whoopee!!!
Robert Reich on Obama’s conservative health insurance reform.
@Y’All
I aint even touchin’ this one!!!
http://www.themercury.com.au/article/2010/03/20/135171_tasmania-news.html
Those evil American Indian tribal chiefs did not share in the spoils of their ill gotten gains either. It was no wonder the American Indians lost their lands and had horrific crimes committed against them. Why, some of them had the nerve to go off the reservation in search of game to prevent their own starvation. They deserved to be shot. They broke the peace treaty.
Some folk should learn to embrace their childhood,..they wouldn’t then, find the need to curl up in a corner and smoke weed all day, muttering all that jazz man!
“This is mathematical PROOF that debt saturation has occurred.”
The monetary authorities are proceeding with the introduction of a reserve currency asset which will enhance global liquidity for imf members and restrict liquidity for those that think the monetary authorities do not exist, like the person that linked this sentence.
Krugman is not speaking doublespeak when he says that a liquidity trap has occurred. The worry about debt saturation is a perspective which ignores the need for credit flows in a credit-based economy for liquidity.
It’s a way to shoot off our foot to save the ‘fort’ from a perceived threat (most likely manufactured by our monetary authorities).
@Y’All
huh, kids stuff, like being a parent the work never stops!!!
http://vigilantcitizen.com/?p=3423
The debt saturation spiral chart relies on GDP: a manufactured artifice provided by none other than…
our monetary authorities!
http://web.worldbank.org/WBSITE/EXTERNAL/DATASTATISTICS/0,,contentMDK:20399244~menuPK:1504474~pagePK:64133150~piPK:64133175~theSitePK:239419,00.html
“The international standard for measuring GDP is contained in the book System of National Accounts (1993), which was prepared by representatives of the International Monetary Fund, European Union, Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development, United Nations and World Bank. The publication is normally referred to as SNA93 to distinguish it from the previous edition published in 1968 (called SNA68)[citation needed][why?].
SNA93 provides a set of rules and procedures for the measurement of national accounts. The standards are designed to be flexible, to allow for differences in local statistical needs and conditions.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gross_domestic_product
@Snoot
Ok, what do the despots produce?
Dr. Berninger’s latest:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hI-B6C1J_yc
Ok, what do the despots produce?
Despot progeny in despotic bloodlines through which they maintain despotic control via future despots.
Americans – get the crooks out of office this November. Here is a list of ‘em that need to hit the road. This maybe your only chance to get your country back.
http://www.infowars.com/obamacare-names-to-remember-come-november/
@Snoot
“Despot progeny in despotic bloodlines through which they maintain despotic control via future despots.” is not an aswer. What do your bis people produce?
Bush – Iraq
Obama – Healt insurance reform
1-0 for the midgets..
What does the phrase ‘your bis’ indicate, Mother? Do I suddenly achieve access to the gentlemen’s club? If so, when do I leave on holiday?
Dedo and defender Snoot -
Your comments, however pragmatic, serve to diminish and obscure the principle for which Rachael Corrie lost her life. What is the value of life if it must be lived under the tyranny of soul-less bulldozer operators and religious-whacked leaders?
@Snoot
When lacking an answer, ask a question, right? What does your financail superstructure produce?
@Y’All
r’member… the good old days… no, no even before that, before the repeats before colour telly… no even before the 20′s… yeah, before electricity… the real good old days when our nations were great… remember like in the books… before all the minorities and before people got ill and benefits… and before all the violence and when gentlemen and ladies could walk the streets and … yeah before bloody GAYS and the you know who’s got uppity.. and before woman just wanted FUN!!! when males got respect… and uhm, people knew their place… a proper world not like today… remember, AAAHHH…. BLISS!!!
where did marietta go?
If we don’t stop warmongering as a nation, we will go the way of Weimar Republic.
http://funy1.blogspot.com/2010/03/collapse-phase-ii-hyper-deflation.html
We have allowed misguided warmongering zealots from 3 different sides to self fulfill ancient religious prophetic text in a bid to continuously wage war, mostly against the poor and helpless.
http://funy1.blogspot.com/2010/03/world-cup-is-right-around-corner-time.html
There is a STAR of MOLOCH cult that is hell bent on creating an Armageddon holocaust combustion of the Earth and they have infiltrated the seats of puppet power of all sides of the Middle East conflict:
http://funy1.blogspot.com/2010/02/star-of-chiun-on-syrian-palace-floor-on.html
You stand up to these warmongers by not partaking in their abominable fulfillment of prophecy.
Why do you keep assuming my propriety over the financial superstructure?
And how can I answer such nebulous questions?
I think the international financial system is a Very Bad Idea, especially with the sovereign interests being overlooked by sovereign institutions and banks via sovereign cities. But it is an even worse idea to ignore the existence of the international financial system when seeking reforms or revolutions.
I am merely indicating the existence of the entity.
At this point, to put it mildly, things are really screwed up. Tearing down the US financial structure and leaving European/Asian banking interests intact hardly seems fair; unless one is advocating the switch to the new reserve system and the ensuing agenda which Sarkozy delineated.
@ Mike L
forex update
GBP/CAD
http://uk.finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=GBPCAD=X&t=5y&l=on&z=l&q=l&c=
GBP/AUD
http://uk.finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=GBPAUD=X&t=5y&l=on&z=l&q=l&c=
@ supergeek – Yes, bliss. I remember reading about how one of the goals of expanding the American frontier was to keep all of the disparate oppressed groups in America from uniting. As long as the frontier expanded, people could be pushed around and kept from realizing that although some had marginally more rights than other oppressed groups, all were really peasants except for the wealthiest few whites–who were the only ones granted full rights and freedom.
The whole international financial system as it now operates begets crime, war, and lust and destroys imagination and innovation to line the purse of the privileged few who gained the advantage through birth or criminal ascendancy.
Okay, Mother?
It produces nothing but feeds off the productive; worse than a parasite being itself the production of parasitical imagination: a warped innovation of man and not a natural species.
I’d like to see an order justly moderate in action with regard to nature. I don’t trust those in power to cede anything of the sort to mankind.
ahhhh….those were the days
I think that for the most part this being tough on Israel is an attempt to make the hardliners feel isolated so they will act against Iran on our behalf without US direct involvement and I look to Hezbollah to set it off with another round of strikes out of Beirut that will inevitably lead right back to Iran once the US gets far enough away from the crime scene. Strategically, a US attack on Iran would probably start with heavy aerial bombardment and a slight pull back of Naval assets to avoid the teeth of the Iranian coastal defenses. That kind of pull back seems like simple strategy simple but also represents a sign of weakness, so hiding such a retreat under the guise of appearing neutral in an ongoing conflict might save face.
Getting the Israelis to do the heavy lifting of bombardment followed by our “whitenight” re-stabilization of the region would even further justify our continued underwriting of the world oil trade and future underwriting of natural gas.
What is the value of life if it must be lived under the tyranny of soul-less bulldozer operators and religious-whacked leaders?
Mr. Umemployed:
Are you god to creed value to life?
where did marietta go?
Maybe she’s molting.
Snoots
You did not answer my question – oh, well. Instead, you accuse me of being pretentiously judgmental about the value of life. I am not G-d but I am god.
@ SG
Rule Britannia
Monty Python
spiced ham
http://www.youtube.com/user/MontyPython?blend=2&ob=1#p/search/0/M_eYSuPKP3Y
How can I answer a question that has perplexed man always?
Words don’t cede value to life anymore than words produce god.
I don’t hold myself convict to words, but I enjoy playing with them.
I’m perplexed by people that line themselves in front of the stone tablets to genuflect. I suppose they find purpose in their remonstrations: but purpose itself frustrates surely.
The value of life is life itself: reflexive conduit of death.
State sovereignty movements are gaining across the US. Succession means you not the FED control your our currency. Why stay in a nation that enslaves generations into massive out of control debt? States like California and New York get 65 cents back for every dollar they send to Washington. They could sure use that money right now.
Florida’s attorney general will file a lawsuit with nine other state attorneys general opposing the healthcare legislation passed by Congress, a spokeswoman said on Monday.
“The health care reform legislation passed by the U.S. House of Representatives last night clearly violates the U.S. Constitution and infringes on each state’s sovereignty,” Florida Attorney General Bill McCollum, a Republican, said in a prepared statement announcing a news conference.
“On behalf of the State of Florida and of the Attorneys General from South Carolina, Nebraska, Texas, Utah, Pennsylvania, Washington, North Dakota, South Dakota and Alabama if the President signs this bill into law, we will file a lawsuit to protect the rights and the interests of American citizens.”
From: Florida says several states to file healthcare lawsuit 22 March 2010 (Reuters) http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN2215987420100322
“We know where the money came from but we do not know if it was necessary, nor who now has it. We know only that, a year on, Britain is experiencing a worse recession than any comparable country. The lack of accountability, the sheer lack of curiosity from the political community, is amazing.”( Simon Jenkins, Guardian) http://davemiller.org/drawings/austerity/lack+of+curiosity.png
snoots
how can you fail to grok the intent of my question, rhetorical as it may be? it was asked without anticipation of a literal answer but was meant to provoke discussion concerning the need to make a stand against tyranny
Hildene is taking on Trust Preferred Solutions, a fund associated with Minneapolis-based TPG Credit, to stop the firm from acquiring securities in a CDO for 5 cents on the dollar.
Community banks need the CDO market to revive to issue TruPS because they sell debt in increments of as little as $10 million, which insurers or mutual funds won’t buy. CDOs bought the most TruPS issued by smaller banks before credit markets froze, according to Citigroup.
Prices of TruPS CDOs have underperformed as banks collapsed at the fastest pace in 17 years. Thirty U.S. banks failed this year as of March 12, and Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. Chairman Sheila Bair warned in February that the pace will accelerate and pass the 2009 total of 140.
Banks were among the biggest investors for these CDOs, Jefferson said. Rainier Pacific Bank in Tacoma, Washington, was seized Feb. 26 by the FDIC after writing down its $108.8 million of investments in 15 TruPS CDOs to $17.1 million. Zions Bancorp., Utah’s biggest bank, took $99.3 million in writedowns last quarter that were mostly related to $2.2 billion of such securities.
From: CDO ‘Samaritan’ Hildene Duels Funds Over Collateral 19 March 2010 (Bloomberg) http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601109&sid=aCPKNh5CZpyI
@ Youri – It’s hard to do anything but laugh at the idea of Republicans “[filing] a lawsuit to protect the rights and the interests of American citizens.”
@Y’All
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yeah, the good old days… and of course if you had no obligations and just sat around on your arse all day talkin’ you wuz called ‘a lady of leisure’ or a gentleman depending… what, what… dontcha know!!!
.
Is it only tyranny when a thing does not work to one’s advantage? What tyranny are you indicating, Mr. UnEmployed?
You equate value of life with freedom from tyranny. That is true. But the value we equate with liberty is dependent on our tyranny against those who support our lifestyle.
And it is ever so.
The young girl lost her life to the bulldozer due to a tyrannical faith in her own sagacity.
When we accept the tyranny of life within the context of life itself we understand the dogpile.
Men that use words as easily as we do have not suffered hunger nor thirst and do not understand that morals are just as easily sold for bread as for gold.
@MrUnemployed,..I’m sure Frances is quite the adept, concerning her own opinions, without the need to “defend” me,..
But it does make me feel all cozy, that she agrees with me,.(she’s one aware chick! : )
@Frances,.go girl go,….
@Dedo. chick? on your head snoot.
Frankly, ronron, I never said I wasn’t a girl.
flutter flutter
Dedo:
Remember we have a deal concerning that barter of Girl Scout cookies for hotdogs.
Scientists find first viable use for GOLD
http://www.physorg.com/news188211977.html
@Mep
Yeah! that’s true.
If everything goes as scheduled Barry Obama will lose the next elections so that crazy Dick and Rumsfeld and the other Wulfowitches will be back just in time to start WOIII. And in WOIII you don’t need insurance.
Obama May Pay Price for Pushing `Political Chips’ on Health-Care Overhaul http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601070&sid=aZlifJFM7LsU
you fat. http://www.princeton.edu/main/news/archive/S26/91/22K07/
i remember some good old days. there gone.
The European Union has decided that by 2012 all flights into and from European airports will be subject to the European carbon trading program. That means airlines will be given a limit on how much carbon dioxide they can emit, and they can buy or sell carbon credits depending on whether they are over or under their targets
From: CER-Climate Change Update:An online survey is on http://www.commodityonline.com/news/CER-Climate-Change-UpdateAn-online-survey-is-on-26731-3-1.html
Rare earths used in cellphone, laptops, digital camerals and several modern industries is in short supply with Western supply totally eliminated.
Why the next battle may be for rare earths? http://www.commodityonline.com/news/Why-the-next-battle-may-be-for-rare-earths-26730-3-1.html
robert johnson
walking blues
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sml8W5SAwo
http://www.bluesradio.co.uk/
Thieves target gold-rich Indians in America http://www.commodityonline.com/news/Thieves-target-gold-rich-Indians-in-America-26696-3-1.html
Investor demand surges for platinum, palladium ETFs http://www.commodityonline.com/news/Investor-demand-surges-for-platinum-palladium-ETFs-26711-3-1.html
India gears up for investments in bio-fuel sector http://www.commodityonline.com/news/India-gears-up-for-investments-in-bio-fuel-sector-26719-3-1.html
Gold likely to rally further & dollar drop away http://www.commodityonline.com/futures-trading/technical/Gold-likely-to-rally-further–dollar-drop-away-15094.html
Australia shifts focus from gold to gas http://www.commodityonline.com/news/Australia-shifts-focus-from-gold-to-gas-26703-3-1.html
Growing spectre of bank closures in US by Jim Sinclair http://www.commodityonline.com/news/Growing-spectre-of-bank-closures-in-US-26687-3-1.html
Time for gold jewellers to check out new metals (cause of higher gold prices) http://www.commodityonline.com/news/Time-for-gold-jewellers-to-check-out-new-metals-26671-3-1.html
To quote a Chinese philosopher: To know and not to do is not to know
more action less talk
Nonprofits groups forecasting a tough 2010 http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE62L3I220100322
Rio Tinto man admits taking bribes Reuters Vid http://www.reuters.com/news/video/story?videoId=60796823&videoChannel=5
Up to Half of Doctors Will Quit if Health Care Passes, Poll Says http://www.opposingviews.com/i/up-to-half-of-doctors-will-quit-if-health-care-passes-poll-says
Up to Half of Doctors Will Quit if Health Care Passes, Poll Says
What a crock. Look who the sponsor of this propaganda is.
Family Research Council
Family Research Council (FRC) champions marriage and family as the foundation of civilization, the seedbed of virtue, and the wellspring of society. FRC shapes public debate and formulates public policy that values human life and upholds the institutions of marriage and the family. Believing that God is the author of life, liberty, and the family, FRC promotes the Judeo-Christian worldview as the basis for a just, free, and stable society.
Re: Rachel Corrie, the White Rose group, etc.
Some people believe in their principals enough that they are willing to die for them. They realize that everyone and everything living dies, and that striving for Good in the world is worthwhile, even if they themselves may perish in the process.
To make life better, even for one person, is of more value than all the wealth of the world.
oops…”principles”
ugh, spelling in English
Vote Them ALL Out… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SV7dyQ-cDnU
Who is going to pay the medicare bills if the Fed.gov won’t and the State.gov can’t?
500BILLION.
The Doc. Understands better now.
Oil and gasoline price decouple – Gasoline price inflation http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hI-B6C1J_yc
NASA Scientist : HAARP Causes Earthquakes http://tinyurl.com/yl2sk2y
Mars as you’ve never seen it before: The colossal ice walls that show another side of the Red Planet http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1259813/Mars-Ice-walls-Red-Planet.html
1984: Grace Commission Report under Ronald Reagan showed IRS is a fraud that collects taxes for the Banking Dynasties http://groups.google.com/group/total_truth_sciences/msg/3a3764aa8d4c5e22?
@Crummy
Whatever the world agenda is, Israel just wants to exist as a nation without threats of being wiped off the face of the planet. If other countries want to hold onto the coat tales of Israel to get what they want, so be it. If the US or other countries back off from Israel, Israel will continue with or without their support. The Jewish people have never gotten support from any other nation in the past, so why would they worry about the present? It’s all about looking at history. Sadly, it keeps on keeping on……….
German bank levy to raise 1 billion euros: sources http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE62L4LU20100322
Germany reportedly close to approving bank tax http://www.marketwatch.com/story/germany-reportedly-close-to-approving-bank-tax-2010-03-22
Google stops censoring China-based search services http://www.marketwatch.com/story/google-re-directs-traffic-away-from-china-site-2010-03-22
No way, shock, horror. Buffet’s own company considers him a better risk than his government. Although, if the US defaulted, wouldn’t that jeopardize the Oracle’s strategy of basically investing in American interests, and monopolistic firms ,in a period when the central bank didn’t bother with trying to control asset price inflation?
“After Moody’s Corp. went public in 2000, Warren Buffett’s holding company, Berkshire Hathaway, invested just under $500 million, making it by far Moody’s largest shareholder. At the time, Moody’s was a stodgy bond-rating company that, together with Standard & Poor’s and Fitch, enjoyed what amounted to a government-backed monopoly on issuing investment ratings.”
http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-02-12/the-sins-of-st-warren/
Ingie:
“The yewish people have never gotten support from any other nation in the past..”
What are you talking about? My grand father must be turning over in his grave, his yewish friends planted trees in the desert to support ishreal in his name.
What about the ongoing (for 40+years) bazillons per year from Germany that no one talks about or the continuing gazillions from the US or congressional assisted donations.
Even i think carter gave both egypt and ishreal billions to kiss and make up.
@ zmore
You’re preachin’ to the choir. Everything that happened in Germany is happening now. I don’t understand why people don’t get it and this is coming from little ole me. A German Catholic.
Here is a really interesting response to the “cut off the cash and Israel might behave artitcle.” Once it was posted, other postings disappeared. Hmmmm!
“The Palestinians were offered all of the West Bank, Gaza, East Jerusalem and $35 billion in refugee compensation by current defence minister and the Prime Minister Ehud Barak.
This was rejected by Arafat. No counter offer was made but was responded to by Palestinain violence. All of this was played out on international television so anyone who spins it otherwise is ignorant.
The Palestinians were also offered a state in 1967 and 1948. It wasn’t the particulars of the state that were rejected, it was the rightful existence of Israel that was rejected.
Who is Israel to negotiate with today?
A)Hamas, a corrupt fundamentalist regime that seized power in a coup from the Palestinian Authority forces, is sworn to Israel’s destruction. The closure of the borders with Gaza by both Egypt and Israel is for the safety of their citizens. Hamas holds its poulation hostage to its corrupt and evil ideology of destroying Israel and spreading its evil into Egypt. The very existence of Hamas is only made possible by financial and military support of Iran, a country sworn to Israel’s destruction.
B) If the Palestinian authority were given back their rightful duty to police Gaza, there would be no closure of Gaza and their people would be far better off. To twist this into a tale of Israeli and Egypt carrying this out without purpose is a lie.
C) The Palestinian Authority and Hamas and entrenched in a civil war.
D) What peace offering has been presented to Israel by the P.A.? Will they accept the same offer presented by Ehud Barak – if not what do they want – it has never been expressed clearly – if it has, provide the reference. To this date, the PLO has not removed its intent to drive all Jews into the sea in their constitution. To this date Palestinian children are taught to hate Israel and Jews in their school curriculums. Is this a concept of a people who crave peace?
The episode with Joe Biden was a huge blunder by a nutcase politician, it certainly was not Isreali government/Netanyahu policy to embarrass Biden. Are there no nutcase politicians here or in all countries for that matter?
But lets take the 1600 planned apartments for East Jerusalem for what it is – there are to be built in an existing Jewish neighborhood. The apartments are not to be built for another 3 years!!! This is the context of which the Palestinians reject sitting down with Israel to negotiate? That is pathetic.
The Palestinians need to return to the negotiating table and stop playing games.
Negotiate a deal with Quartet backing and the settlement issue goes away, end of story.
What value has Obama achieved in his speach reaching out to the Arab world? Where is the
criticism from this administration and others about Libya’s threat of Jihad against Switzerland for their ban of the mineret? What has Syrias overtones been to the USA after reestablishing our dipomatic ties there – they swayed closer to Iran. How many times has Iran spat in the face of this adminstation despite repeated offers of relations by Obama?
Where is the criticism of this on this site and in the media? These are countries that would be our friends were it not for Israel? – what nonsense!!!!
No relationship is perfect and they all have ups and downs; now is a down and it will pass.
How many true friends does the USA have in the world at this time. Israel is a true friend.”
And Zmoore, It’s Ingrid not Ingie. A short for my name is Inge like me mum!