Gordon Brown Resigns as Leader, Opening Door to Labour / Lib Dem Deal

Posted on May 10, 2010 by stacyherbert| 30 Comments

Stacy Summary: h/t @Mike/Liverpool. It’s certainly been an interesting week in politics, economics, markets, currencies, the environment . . .

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30 Responses to Gordon Brown Resigns as Leader, Opening Door to Labour / Lib Dem Deal

Debt Slave | May 12, 2010 at 2:14 am |

isn’t it going to be a TORY (not labour)/lib-dem deal?
FiatMentalist | May 11, 2010 at 11:55 am |

@Speirsey

Its what Marx would call a “pre revolutionary moment”
SpeirsyGlasgow | May 11, 2010 at 1:02 am |

Have to say I somewhat agree with JOHN Reid for the first time ever. A rainbow coalition is a joke (and I ain’t no tory). The SNP and Plaid will have the balance of power within the coalition on issues that essentially don’t affect them i.e. English issues. I’m Scottish but I feel for the English who, under a LIB LAB coal, would have to endure Scots and Welsh MPs voting to determine English policy again and again. Potentially it’s a role reversal of the eighties where Scot’s endured 18 years of Tory rule they repeatedly voted against. Ken?
Pantomime. Cobblers.
FiatMentalist | May 10, 2010 at 9:59 pm |

These guys are conspiracy theorists afterall

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XHuZqyuIS8

The dude on the right remind you of anyone?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOYsN7G8p0E
Rian Orr | May 10, 2010 at 9:44 pm |

A lib.con government is programatically ridiculous, their programme is slightly to left of labour, they would have to surrender their manifesto to support the Tories. They could get everything from a labour gov minus Brown. I know there is a well healed rump in the Liberal party whose natural home is with the Conservatives but the vast bulk of the party are agast at
Tory politics. Which faction will prevail?
FiatMentalist | May 10, 2010 at 9:06 pm |

http://order-order.com/2010/05/10/cchq-sources-staff-contracts-being-renewed-for-5-months/

6 months rerun, september maybe. Just as the markets go kablooooey
FiatMentalist | May 10, 2010 at 8:58 pm |

Alan Reid just done a hatchet job on Brown and the Lab Lib coalition on the BBC. Alan Reid was a Labour Blairite ex home secretary who “moved aside” when Brown took power.

Think the New Labour Blairites in general will start to go after Brown and try to force a minority conservative government. Did Blair give this order?

Tricky for the Blaitites that are still inside New Labour, but those on the outside can happily “piss in”
FiatMentalist | May 10, 2010 at 7:23 pm |

@Sam

Oh yeah the Tories are panicing right now
sam | May 10, 2010 at 7:16 pm |

oh, shite. Tories are offering a referendum.
SpeirsyGlasgow | May 10, 2010 at 7:10 pm |

Mike from Liv’s prediction is nearly all there.
The Lib dem’s can’t go Con. It’d be seen as a betrayal, and with a stronger labour party shot of Brown, they’d be well squeezed out in the long run.

@ SAM – Totally agree. Parliament should reflect the people in all their nuttyness. At least then we all know where we stand and the extremists can’t complain about being sidelined.

Wait a minute….sorry, just remembered it’s a pantomime. forget all that. So easy to get sucked in!
GGees | May 10, 2010 at 7:05 pm |

Anyway Im on my way to South Africa for 2 weeks—anyone for a few Kruger rands?–place ur orders and send $$
GGees | May 10, 2010 at 7:03 pm |

It really makes no difference who actually is in Government that PTB still runs things who ever is the front man/woman–c,mon guys we all know that to be the case in the UK and the US
FiatMentalist | May 10, 2010 at 6:55 pm |

Their still playing Gordons Brown game. After the election he should prove a stable government or resign instead he …tacitly…accepts… that the Lib dems will form one with the Tories and stays as Prime minister just waiting for “constitutional” reasons.

Now he claims resignation of the Party to open up doors for a LAB Libdem coalition just as it looked like Libdem Cons coalition was going to happen. The Libdems ultimately are the wannabe intellectual socialist elite.

Hes still the Prime Minister and hes still kiting the other parties. Hes opened up the door to remain prime minister till september, but i doube hell get that. Hes hardball Machiavellian the tories should have won in a landslide and Browns still playing them.
PaulH from Scotland | May 10, 2010 at 6:49 pm |

Most Tories will be delighted at the ending of talks with the Lib Dems.

A Lab/Lib/Tom/Dick/Harry coalition would collapse within 6 months amidst huge economic isssues and resultant increased EU scepticism.

Tories shift policies right (sweeping up UKIP and BNP votes) and win new election…
FiatMentalist | May 10, 2010 at 6:35 pm |

The tories will go into this coalition, and at sometime within the next 6 months the tories will sabotage it. A new election will be held with the public sufficiently fearful of hung parliaments and the tories will win a majority. The Greens will lose their only seat.
The libdems will break up ….. again
Long term Balls will get the nod for labour. Bilderberg boy for the Bilderberg party.
Austerity will start
within 3 years there will be riots in the street
within 5 there will be a labour libdem coalition government.
FiatMentalist | May 10, 2010 at 6:23 pm |

@Stacy

In UK we cast our vote for a local representative

Do you even vote anywhere btw?
sam | May 10, 2010 at 6:16 pm |

@Kitty,

Don’t worry about UKIP. From what I hear, their election campaigns often fail to get off the ground….

Sorry. I’ll get my coat.
sam | May 10, 2010 at 6:06 pm |

@Kitty,

there will probably be a cut of point, of you don’t get a certain percentage of the of the vote, then you don’t get into the list of parties sharing out the power.

however, as an British Indian I wouldn’t mind a little more exposure for the nutcase parties. The UK, isn’t a liberal as it likes to think but the more exposure they get the more they as seen a a bunch of racist thugs.

If one wanted to waste ones vote, there’s always the Monster Raving Loonies…
kitty | May 10, 2010 at 6:04 pm |

The question is if PR gets through would Cameron get voted in next time with the backing of far right wingers?
kitty | May 10, 2010 at 6:00 pm |

Sorry didn’t quite post in the shape I had it but the first column gives the present number of seat and the second column what might be. You kind of have to work out the column breaks by the spaces between the numbers. EG Look at the UKIP count going from 0 to 20.
kitty | May 10, 2010 at 5:57 pm |

Fascinating how these negotiations are played out with private meetings and public declarations. Then the language changes to accommodate ‘public opinion’, memes and counter memes.

Probably Clegg has the leverage to get the PR deal he is looking for. Then UK politics changes. Not sure of the details of the PR system being considered but looking at a division of 600 seats across the number of votes will change the ‘wasted vote’ argument and might lead more voters into the arms of some of those more extreme parties. EG. Look at the ‘PSeats’ column on this elections numbers.

Seats PSeats Votes Party
306 234 10,706,647 Conservative
258 188 8,604,358 Labour
57 149 6,827,938 Liberal Democrat
0 20 917,832 UK Independence Party
0 12 563,743 British National Party
6 11 491,386 Scottish National Party
1 7 319,891 Others
1 6 285,616 Green
5 3 171,942 Sinn Fein
8 3 168,216 Democratic Unionist Party
3 3 165,394 Plaid Cymru
3 2 110,970 Social Democratic & Labour
0 1 102,361 Ulster Cons and Unionists
0 1 64,826 English Democrats
1 0 42,762 Alliance Party
0 0 33,251 Respect-Unity Coalition
0 0 26,300 Traditional Unionist Voice
0 0 18,623 Christian Party
0 0 16,150 Independent Com n Health
0 0 12,275 Trade Unionist and Socialist Co
0 0 3,157 Scottish Socialist Party
sam | May 10, 2010 at 5:55 pm |

@stacyherbert

yeah I know, that’s exactly the same reason brown remained an un-elected primeminister for so long. However it’s something they like to use when the want to justify their right to power. ergo David Cameron throwing his toys out the pram after not getting enough seats, but squaking ‘look! I got the most votes, therefore I should be prime minister, give me my power….’ even though currently how many people vote for you is not directly relevent.

I can see this as being good for the country though. more time they spend arguing amongst themselves, the less time they have to screw the country over.
stacyherbert | May 10, 2010 at 5:39 pm |

@sam – in the UK you cast your vote for a party, not for the leader of that party
Mother Earth | May 10, 2010 at 5:38 pm |

Is that the Telecrap urinal?

Poor Brown, such a tragic figure..I don’t think they want him at Goldman, he’s no fun..
dan valley | May 10, 2010 at 5:37 pm |

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..Warren Buffett’s son preaches values as wealth

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20100510/lf_nm_life/us_books_buffett
sam | May 10, 2010 at 5:37 pm |

ok, I’m not a brown supporter.

but, ~8.5+ million people voted for him, many more than Nick Clegg, but Clegg somehow has the ability force him to resign.

this sounds less democratic than giving the position to David Cameron.

sheeeiiiit. all in the game yo.
dan valley | May 10, 2010 at 5:35 pm |

Mr. Rickards sayz…CNBC today http://bit.ly/9oJFMZ. “Goldman can create shorts faster than Europe can print money.”
Wahrheit | May 10, 2010 at 5:31 pm |

Ding Dong, the Brown is down, heading toward Goldman wearing a frown.
stacyherbert | May 10, 2010 at 5:27 pm |

@snoot – wow, that was fast; the guy hadn’t even finished his speech and the cartoon was published!
frances snoot | May 10, 2010 at 5:21 pm |

http://heady.co.uk/rm/gordon_brown_resigns_leadership.jpg