Stacy Summary: Some opinion pieces that might make this Friday night even hotter than it already is (here in Paris anyway) . . .
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ref. max keiser – Get 6 mo’s free storage
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Rick Ackerman-
- Karl Denninger – Market Ticker
- The Big Picture
- Mish
- David Morgan
- King World News
- SmartKnowledge
- GoldCore
fiat money and the french revolution
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crash banksters – Buy Silver & gold
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- A Lightning War for Liberty
primo
wonder if we were a “PLAGUE” under the Reagan administration…when “WE” were turning Central America into a charnel pit…or engaging in rewriting the New Deal gains of regulated financial sectors and progressive taxation…I enjoy listen to Robert’s “old man” bitterness but he neglects to remember his role in America’s unmaking
@Majestic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fI1DRGcSets&NR=1&feature=fvwp
It’s the vaccine comment. Global health strategy. Depopulation by sterilization and cancer viruses.
@Majestic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fI1DRGcSets&NR=1&feature=fvwp
Forced sterilization with vaccines. And probably cancer viruses to shorten life of the useless cattle. It’s for Mother Earth. Unatural selection. Social darwinism by another name. Get rid of the poor.
Craig is right. USA will end up as a failed state. Any suggestion of what is ahead for you poor Americans, and poor us ? USSR.
@Charles
At least Reagan had the guts to arrest and put in prison 1000 banksters with the help of William Black. I am no fan of Reagan. At least he did one thing right. All US presidents are mass criminals. Comes with the empire bussiness.
For Youri Carma
http://imgur.com/updgr.jpg
sure glad PCR is still talking. he’s like a father to me. 20% unemployment? you don’t say.
@ Stacy / Max
Just Curious as too what ya tinks of me Ancient Nuke war angle
Velly velly curious
Oh well DJ Bonn in ta house again
Tis ta weekend goin a little old school
Medley – Saturday Night Fever
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69VsAEafSgM&feature=related
lolololololol
ROFL
Hic
We are the World Israeli style, moching the killings..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOGG_osOoVg
If you don’t board a ship with a gun, the chances of that gun being yielded against you are zero..
Religion is the scourge of humanity.
Alongside neofeudalism, of course.
gold http://www.zerohedge.com/article/gold-euros
@chArles
Roberts isn’t going bitter, he’s ripening like Dr.Paul and this guy…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdfzC5NNAew
…mmm, tasty!
World Govt Non-Elect: Engdahl on Bilderberg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7vzMOc3lvc
RT going strong on Bilderbergs !
I need to buy a water well pump system to run on solar. In the course of finding the right contractors for the job(s), I came across this letter to Obama on one of the business websites. After reading this letter, I know that this is the man with whom I wish to do business.
http://www.cmillerdrilling.com/files/cory_the_well_driller.pdf
Guys like this seem like the real green shoots to me.
Bill Gates invited at Nazi Bilderberg meeting. Subject ? Control population.
One more for Youri
http://imgur.com/eGWDU.jpg
@chArles. remorse is a very powerfull thing. i respect him for that.
‘Humility
In modern society where humility is sometimes mistaken for weakness, it is a challenge for the knight to be strong, tenacious, noble, courageous, kind and yet humble. When you consider that knights are usually selected from among the creme de la creme of society, you realize that you find among knights those who have the most to be proud of, and yet Chivalry demands that humility is as important as achievement.’
THE MODERN KNIGHT
by
His Excellency
Baron Ndubuisi Nnaji of Thuben
GCdHS, Capt. HGHS, KtB
http://www.greeleynet.com/~maxalla/OKHSSub/ModernKnights.html
and yet we are taught to be proud of our differences,
instead of celebrating our solidarity,
no wonder the 1% has us licked.
oh, that and the chem-trails,
Best footage Chemtrails 2009 Timelapse England London – Debunk this!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaQV4fYzB3U
@Mike
Gold going exponential in euros.
@Mike
Ballistic in gold. But silver is THE STEAL !
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/gold-euros
Bee Gees – Islands in the Stream
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcsW9pdSKMs&feature=related
Talking about Spain and Nazi Bilderberg, the total debts of Spain are in the order of 1 trillion euros. That’s the sovereign debt if I recall. You have to add probably another 1 trillion euros. 2 trillions euros ? 3 trillion euros ? Wonder what percentage of all this shit is absolutely worthles ? Has somebody a number ? Did Spain hide it’s debts with interest rate swaps like Greece ? Is Goldman Sachs in the USA colonial Spain CIA controlled government ? Bet they are there too ? Betting massively against Spaniards.
Imagine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okd3hLlvvLw&feature=related
B gees
The latest PR: The young American who was killed wasn’t really an American since he’s of Turkish origin. So his death doesn’t matter.
John Lennon stand by me
Dj Bonn
Closin ta house wit one more
after tis
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4_ghOG9JQM&NR=1
@bonn
Bee Gees – Guilty
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijJVIs8rxPE&feature=related
Heart – Never
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQcQnDFhjxo
and for the kids,
Slayer & Ice-T – Disorder
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5OsmEhItT4
Hungary talking about simply declaring bankruptcy.
Euro crumbles. So does the sacro-saint swiss franc.
Got silver ? Got gold Mike ?
http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2010/06/dollar-soars-euro-euroswiss-forint-hit.html
LOBO- ” I’D LOVE YOU TO WANT ME”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HB8EZ5Xa_QI
LOBO- ” DON’T EXPECT ME TO BE YOUR FRIEND”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3T8-wtEISCo&feature=related
Bryan Ferry – Kiss & Tell
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwVXEF-wFzY
Considering where we are, exactly, the $IRX is very telling:
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=$IRX&p=W&b=5&g=0&id=p19892911321&a=191058127&listNum=2&listNum=2
Which makes me think of this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pvm-n6gwPCY
here comes the hardcore,
Dead Kennedys – Kill the poor
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgpa7wEAz7I
Dr. know- God told me to
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkFDnAthnlw&feature=related
and a tribal classic
Paul Revere and the raiders. Cherokee Nation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGtlXzsg59U
and of course a drunk rock cover,
charged-cherokee nation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8cOGiMLC9Y
Hungary bankrupt and on the same day Austria also.
Autro-hungrian bankruptcy.
http://www.alterinfo.net/L-Autriche-est-en-faillite_a27280.html
Let’s make a bet. Who will be defaulting monday morning ? Ireland ?
@FranSix. yep the lehy shit blizzard. did you know ricky is stephen harpers cousin? lifes a beach and then you drown.
more good news. http://www.zerohedge.com/article/first-gulf-now-marcellus-shale-gas-well-rupture-forces-mile-wide-evacuation-pa
Now France
Investors increasingly fear that it is simply unsustainable – economically and politically – for the ECB to support the rollover of public and private debts. If investors – acting on this belief – refuse to rollover bonds, the entire policy disintegrates into uncontrolled money issue.
http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2010/06/now-france.html
Hungary Official Says Economy ‘Grave’
http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2010/06/hungary-official-says-economy-grave.html
pretcher. http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article20044.html
“he’s ripening”
Doesn’t rotten follow ripening?
hahaha. thought you’d bite that snoot. you a fisherman?
“A prime cause of this inversion is the distortion in perception brought about by rank tribalism.”
Greenwald is the purveyor of truth? Does he not know that the news raining down from the event has been seeded by those with an agenda-driven purpose?
So many preachers! So many noble aspirants of the goal of truth!
So little to waste deriding other’s viewpoints as prejustified when one stands firmly on tierra verdad!
No ronron, I rarely imbibe.
As I said–a nation of mainly sociopaths run by a coalition of psychopaths—-of course they must be the purveyors of all truth, after all God said so did he not
@RawnRawn:
I done read that air Greenwad thang.
“The truth, however, always emerges.” Yep. It sure do, and we’all’n shuld be glad Greenwad is a’waitin’ there to catch-it-fur-us.
Likely he’z a fan of fishin’. Now when the fish is a’wagglin’ ya ain’t gonna get a bite. Ya gotta wait round fur it to EMERGE.
Yep. Like Greenwald done.
Cowards.
“@chArles. remorse is a very powerfull thing. i respect him for that.”
Roberts claims that the country was wonderous and good when he was at the IMF, er Treasury.
(powerful has one l, ronron)
@Snoot. war song. she painted up her tits and rolled and curled her pubic hair, ruby are you contemplating going out some where?
Goldman Sachs sold $250 million of BP stock before spill or 44% of their holdings.
(http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0602/month-oil-spill-goldman-sachs-sold-250-million-bp-stock/)
@Snoot. as usual your right. it has one l. and 2 left feet.
@joe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSC3hNY8Oa8
oh forgot. when the winds from the west the fishing the best. wind from the east the fishing the least. the shit storm is coming from the east.
Bees VS Bankers!!! Bees swarm wall street and the white house.
http://www.thestar.com/news/oddities/article/817798–worker-bees-swarm-posh-wall-street-restaurant
The bees also at the white house!
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/98075-thousands-of-bees-swarm-white-house
BEES ARE A BAD OMEN!!! I hope so!!!
hey@Duke. i’m the champ here so don’t fuck around.
Glenn Greenwald wrote,
“What’s the Obama administration supposed to say about what Israel did: we condemn the killing of unarmed civilians? We decry these violations of international law? Even by typical standards of government hypocrisy, who in the U.S. Government could possibly say any of that with a straight face?”
Hillary Clinton could.
What she said in late May regarding North Korea could have just as easily been said regarding Israel’s recent attack on the flotila. She said, “We cannot allow this attack on South Korea to go unanswered by the international community. This will not be and cannot be business as usual. There must be an international, not just a regional, but an international response..” and “It’s important to send a clear message to North Korea that provocative actions have consequences,”.
I suppose it was a rhetorical question but I thought I’d answer it.
America isn’t a plague. It’s just a state that is being deconstructed by it’s owners much like all powerful states are deconstructed. Messily. Consider when things got really messy toward the end of the Roman Empire. It’s more like a huge bloated diseased carcass. But don’t mistake the dead creature for the cause. The hyper-wealthy who own and control all the states and corporations are the plague.
Hi@RonRon, Just thought I’d borrow your trophy for today.
In Nord mythology bees landing on a roof it is a bad omen. Your house will burn down soon thereafter. Wall street shares have been burning all week.
Maybe the bees are attracted by the hum of algorithmic trading machines or the bonus checks that smell of sweet nectar?
Who knows?
John Rob –> The Americanization of Emily Arthur Hiller 1964
Excellent !
Hi,
Here in Spain. Anyone tell me a good place/way to buy oil? And an explanation for why it’s a good place/way?
Thanks
well ok @Duke. getting tired myself. the floors yours.
@BlackDouglas. get your oil at a side street gas station. always pay cash. tell no one you have it. be carefull it burns.
see@Duke. it’s a lot of work.
@John Robb
That snippet from the flick was a mind-burner…
Thanx
Cowardice will save us all
Got any more?
Rabies vaccine, gives you rabies
http://health.asiaone.com/Health/News/Story/A1Story20100527-218806.html
Who needs Bill Gates?
http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/view/159761
History is repeating itself.
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S & A Digest
Italy’s next… History repeats itself… $40 billion in Eastern European losses… Why the European Central Bank can’t let any major bank fail… The downside of paper systems…
Here’s the next big global problem: Italy. Credit default swaps on Italian sovereign debt are now at record levels and moving higher. Currently, it costs €250,000 per year to insure €10 million worth of Italian bonds. I expect these prices to continue to increase, making it much harder for Italy to get the estimated €250 billion it needs to finance its annual deficit and roll over the €170 billion in principal that will come due in the second half of this year.
And… none of these debt estimates includes the growing likelihood of a major bailout for UniCredit, Italy’s largest bank. UniCredit is Europe’s largest lender to Eastern Europe, where JPMorgan estimates credit losses will total €40 billion this year. When you see in the news that Hungary’s currency is plummeting (as it did today), you can bet UniCredit’s losses are growing. Ironically, UniCredit is the successor bank of Kredit-Anstalt, whose failure in 1931 overwhelmed European governments, forcing Austria, Germany, and England off of the gold standard. As I told my subscribers in March, I think history is about to repeat itself:
[R]oughly 75 years after its collapse set off the banking crisis that ended the gold standard and destroyed the world’s financial system, Kredit-Anstalt (now known as UniCredit) is once again the largest bank in Eastern Europe. I be lieve it will soon fail again, setting off another global banking crisis. – Stansberry’s Investment Advisory, March 2010
A lot of screeching and hand wringing over at CNBC today. Good for a laugh.
http://www.cnbc.com/id/15840232?video=1513566516&play=1
@Duje Jocic
About the bees. It’s because they are made about Monsanto.
@ John Robb:
many thanks..
found this. it was written in the middle of may. He predicted the start of the financial system would start June 4th, 2010.
***************** STOCK MARKETCRASH STARTING JUNE 4TH **************
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I received this newsletter today from the Taipan Publishinggroup. I’m a member of their services for 3 years now, and I remember very well that Adam Lass was one of the few market analysts that predicted the stock market crash of 2008 . He also predicted every major market crash dating back to 1999, as you can see for yourself in the following newsletter :
Dear Taipan Daily reader,
I’m rushing you this letter and I hope you’ll receive it without delay. You see, Adam Lass, our lead charting expert, just handed me a chart that shows the markets are headed for a downturn. In fact he’s pinpointed the date of June 4th as the beginning of a serious downward spiral. You should probably make a mental note of that date. You see, Adam’s proprietary indicators have predicted every major market crash dating back to 1999.
Sandy Franks
Executive Publisher, Taipan Daily
“The Most Urgent Prediction of My Career”
The Man Who Called Every Major Market Collapse
Since 1999 Just Revealed That 2010′s Plunge
Could Be Only 16 Days Away
Countdown to Crashdown
Heed This Warning, and You Could Gain 868%.
Ignore It, and You Stand to LOSE HALF of Your
Wealth. The Choice Is Yours…
Dear Concerned Reader,
My name is Sandy Franks, publisher of Taipan Publishing Group.
I Have to Warn You: What you’re about to read is quite terrifying.
Ignore it, and it could cost you thousands — perhaps even millions of dollars…
But on the other hand, if you take this warning seriously, it could turn every $1,000 into $8,650.
Like it or not, this is an “all or nothing” situation. That’s why it’s of utmost importance that you read the message below.
Here’s the situation…
The “Third Wave” Has Now Triggered
Late last night, I received a disturbing e-mail from my top market technician, Adam Lass.
It read…
Dear Sandy,
Colliding economic forces are conspiring to create the most dangerous market environment since 1987.
You see, I have now detected that the “Third Wave” in a series of memetic oscillator formations will dramatically impact both the American economy and the stock market.
Reading these words sent chills down my spine.
Some quick background….
In the past, I’ve dismissed Adam’s “Storm Warning” predictions as nothing more than unnecessary fear-mongering.
BIG MISTAKE.
As you’ll see below, Adam’s proprietary indicators have predicted every major market crash dating back to 1999.
Now that Adam’s critical “Third Wave” formation has triggered, I’m entirely convinced that the stock market’s 80% rally of the past year is about to come to a crashing end.
How bad will it get?
At the minimum, Adam expects the Dow to plunge from 11,115 down to
4,460.
What’s worse, the Nasdaq could plummet 55% and the S&P 500 could lose 59%.
And get this…
According to his latest findings, the drop should officially begin on Friday, June 4th.
But that’s just the tip of the iceberg…
@BlackDoug
If you want advice on how to trade in commodities, you probably should go over to Zero Hedge and ask questions there. A lot of traders post there and they are usually willing take the time to explain the basics.
@Marietta. i told blackie all he needs to know about speculating. trust me.
Hi Ronron
How you been?
@Marietta. nice to yo you again.
@ronron
I haven’t been posting as much lately but i still read here everyday. You and Bonn still make me laugh!
@Marrieta. it’s good to laugh. hahaha.
Just joined netflix. i’ve been watching every episode of Monty Python in order. i LOVE netflix.
@Marietta. just reading some not so funny shit. will report tomorrow.
BP
Its very Bad:-
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1284003/Turned-unrecognisable-monsters-oil-Sickening-new-images-helpless-wildlife-dying-muck-BP-spill.html
Mike
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog/2010/jun/04/bilderberg-charlie-skelton-protesters
Mike
Work till you drop.
Chinese factory suicides rise.
http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/no-talking-just-working-12-hours-a-day-in-ifactory-hell-20100604-xkmx.html
Markets just following chart rules.
http://www.youtube.com/user/FreeTradingVideos
@ Mini US, and those are the people who have “work”. Consider how bad things have to get before people will put up with those conditions. Their alternatives are even worse.
i cant look at bp s images
it makes me sick
i look at bps images and i see america
and what the elite have done
i fear with good reason we will suffer worse than this
they have destroyed america
the congress and the last 4 presidents
most americans are in shock fear disabelief
then outrage
im waiting for the gulf to ignite in civil war over thier jobs and the goverments
laughable reasponse
i wouldnt blame them one bit
The Federal Reserve will flood world markets with $US, presumably to stop deflation.
http://news.coinupdate.com/federal-reserve-floods-world-markets-with-us-dollars-0303/
Grrrrrr……. This is so bullshit!
Damn the politicians and the EU bureaucracy.
Its wrong so wrong. A nation ruled by the EU through the EEA.
*shaking head in disbelief*
Sub Headline Reads:
EU commissioner demands that Norway will more than halve the guarantee on bank deposits. Otherwise it goes beyond the free competition.
EU Commissioner Michel Barnie says flatly NO to Sigbjørn Johnsen’s (Finance Minister of Norway) desire to maintain the protection of the Norwegian banking customers’ deposits if a bank goes down.
It comes out of the question to let Norway keep its scheme to guarantee all bank deposits up to 2 million (around €250,000), in the event of bankruptcy of the banking system. This guarantee has been fixed since 1996.
From January of 2011 Norway have to adjust down to the new standard level of 100,000 Euros.
That is what the new EU Commissioner for Internal Market and Services, Michel Barnie, writes in response to a letter sent by Sigbjørn Johnsen 12 March.
Barnie’s justification is that different guarantee will inhibit the free competition in the EU’s internal market, which Norway is also part of the through the EEA agreement.
In and with the EEA is it the EU, not parliament or the government, which now determines the regulations for the Norwegian banking guarantees. Until now the EU has allowed the countries to have the level of bank guarantees that they want.
Barnie said that EU member states must now harmonize their guarantee by January 2011.
He also anticipate the outcome of an investigation the European Commission has initiated about such harmonization will benefit consumers and financial stability.
It is very unlikely that this report will allow any deviation, because it would increase the distortion in place to counter it, writes Barnie
Original article (in Norwegian)
http://www.abcnyheter.no/nyheter/okonomi/100603/eu-svekker-norsk-bankgaranti
What a Star example of rigged market, to have different guarantees will restrain free competition?
That is exacly what makes it a free competition, if we were to standarise it all into one size guarantee then that would surely kill all competition as everybody is equal and there is nothing to compete over anymore…right? Damn, it pisses me off
From the same article.
There are rumors circulating that, if they have any substance, could soon have a serious impact on precious metals. One is that Interpol has been conducting a significant investigation in the US, Europe, and other nations of the financial goings-on over the past three years. Supposedly, they are prepared to press charges in either June or July against a huge number of top-level people in the banking and brokerage businesses, as well as major politicians and government regulators. Should there be any truth to this rumor, even if on a smaller scale, expect the value of many world currencies to fall—leading to soaring precious metals prices.
Paul Craig Roberts speaks the truth about America. I’m glad he hasn’t stopped writing. To be alive at this moment in history, to witness the slow and possibly sudden downfall of the American empire is god damn interesting!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyMRz1hbb4M
;D
On the march tommorrow against Israel’s actions in little ol’ Ireland. Will let y’all (curse you keiser!) how I get on.
@Dork
Bodhrán festival in Kerry Sunday? You have my e-mail.
mini
its funny i keep reading now
be scared of feds taxing gold or foriegn goverments
who cares if gold goes to 20 thousand
people will gladly take it off my hands
i see a new black market
and yes people will trust the goverment
in 1934 fdr made gold illegal
thier was 6 million ounces in circulation
only 2 million was ever recoverd
what happened to the other 4 million ounces
after the crash people didnt much trust goverment
also in the usa gold is no longer money
just a asset class
it would be like makeing stocks illegal
but anything can happen
isnt life great
hi max stacey whats up!
Even Mr. Lahey can see what’s coming on the markets…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pvm-n6gwPCY
sing song … Bob Dylan “Slow Train Coming”
song is performed by the Infidels
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYQSYPLu3k0
follow along in a separate window, here are the lyrics
http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/bobdylan/slowtrain.html
Poor people gonna rise up, take what’s theirs…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rZbvi6Tj6E
enjoy
Ricky and Julian decide what form of Financial terrorism to engage in
Nickel ‘n Dime robbery (SLP)
or
The BIG DIRTY (TBTF Gov’t Swindle)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFs4E3NE2fM
Hungary appears on the sovereign debt radar
http://www.bloomberg.com.au/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aAfltXhthX.4&pos=3
“Credit-default swaps on sovereign bonds surged to a record on speculation Europe’s debt crisis is worsening after Hungary said it’s in a “very grave situation” because a previous government lied about the economy. ”
So does this mean we now have the PHIIGS ?
(maybe we could rearrange it to “HisPig” or maybe “HiPigs” ? :-p )
Gaza aid ship “Rachel Corrie” has been seized – at time approximately 1100 UTC, June 5th.
Max and Stacy,
PCR is the best thing that ever came of the Thatcher- Reagan era. His honesty and truth cuts through all of the propaganda/spin with such ease. He is the last shred of what America once represented.
Keep spreading the truth,
Joe
@ marietta
You and Bonn still make me laugh!
lololol
I am almost spent need a truck load of Viagra now
But I promise I will find a new & innovative ways to keep on tee lighter side of all ta mess we are in cause of a few power hungry phycopathic lunatics ; here at Keiserville
ROFL
Hic
LOBO- ” ME AND YOU AND A DOG NAMED BOO”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmZv5ND2YuI&feature=related
travelin n livin of ta LAND
“Free Energy” not freakin tat stupid “Renewable Energy” -> who coined tis stupid term ……Errr emmm oh where was I Free Energy = Free Life
Tink Armish
tink Free
lololololololol
ROFL
Hic
@Majestic PIIGS + Hungary := PIGSHI…. ?
Turkey is not in the Euro yet … fortunately !
about the bees…
“They fought from heaven; and the stars in their courses fought against Sisera.” – Judges, 5 : 20.
Everything has meaning and a purpose.
43 Years After Surviving Israeli Attack on USS Liberty, US Veteran Joe Meadors Seized by Israeli Forces on Gaza Aid Flotilla
Joe Meadors was on one of the other Free Gaza boats that was seized early Monday morning. For Meadors, this marks the second time he has been aboard a ship attacked by Israeli forces in international waters. In 1967, Meadors was a signalman aboard the USS Liberty, a US Navy electronic intelligence-gathering ship that was attacked by Israeli planes and torpedo boats in 1967. Thirty-four Americans were killed and more than 170 were wounded in the attack.
http://www.democracynow.org/2010/6/4/43_years_after_surviving_israeli_attack
AMY GOODMAN: We’re also joined by Joe Meadors, who was on one of the other Free Gaza boats that was seized early Monday morning. For Meadors, this marks the second time he’s been aboard a ship attacked by the Israeli forces in international waters.
We’re going to go back now to 1967. Meadors was a signalman aboard the USS Liberty, a US Navy electronic-intelligence-gathering ship that was attacked by Israeli planes and torpedo boats in 1967. Thirty-four Americans were killed, more than 170 wounded, in the attack. At the time, the Liberty was cruising international waters off the Egyptian coast in the midst of what became known as the Israeli-Arab Six Day War. Joe Meadors joins us now from Texas.
Welcome to Democracy Now! Go back to 1967. Explain what happened.
Joe, if you could repeat what you were just saying?
Well, we’re going to try right now to go to a clip, to go to an excerpt of White House—about this attack that occurred in 1967. It’s from a documentary called Loss of Liberty.
STAN WHITE: I was coming to go back to the TRESSCOM area. I stepped out on deck. A plane came by. I looked right in the cockpit. He waved, I waved. That’s how close they were. And they knew who we were.
GEORGE GOLDEN: Of all the recon flights that they had that morning, over looking at our ship for approximately six to seven hours, they had a good idea of what they were doing. And they hit—they hit us hard and fast with everything they had.
NARRATOR: Commander William McGonagle, the ship’s captain, although he had been badly wounded, most of his bridge crew had been killed, he stayed on the bridge throughout the attack and the long night that followed. Admired and respected by his crew, he received the Congressional Medal of Honor for gallantry.
CAPT. WILLIAM McGONAGLE: When the planes struck, it was without provocation and certainly unexpected, and they seemed to descend on us from all directions at the same time. Those rockets and machine guns tore the ship. It killed men on deck. And we were defenseless.
AMY GOODMAN: That’s an excerpt of the documentary Loss of Liberty, as we turn to another excerpt.
CAPT. WILLIAM McGONAGLE: It appeared, from the ferocity of the attack, that the intent of the attackers was to sink the ship. Maybe they hoped to have no survivors, so that they would not be held accountable for the attack after it occurred.
STAN WHITE: We didn’t know who was attacking us. They didn’t know who was attacking us. I don’t know how Washington can say, “Don’t go, because they’re friends of ours.” So that’s the thing that’s always bothered me right there.
DEAN RUSK: I never, myself, accepted the Israeli purported explanation. Accidents don’t occur through repeated attacks by service vessels and by aircraft. It obviously was a decision taken pretty high up on the Israeli side, because it involved combined forces. The ship was flying an American flag. Even if it had been unidentified from an Israeli point of view, it was a reckless thing for them to do. Suppose it had been a Soviet ship. That could have produced very large problems indeed.
JAMES AKINS: George Ball, the brilliant and courageous Undersecretary of State at the time of the ’67 war, wrote about the attack on the Liberty subsequently. He said, “The ultimate lesson of the Liberty attack” was that it “had far more effect on policy in Israel than in America. Israel’s leaders concluded that nothing they might do would offend the Americans to the point of reprisal. If America’s leaders did not have the courage to punish Israel for the blatant murder of American citizens, it seemed clear that their American friends would let them get away with almost anything.”
AMY GOODMAN: That, an excerpt again of the documentary about the 1967 USS Liberty. Joe Meadors is on the line with us, a survivor of that attack by the Israeli military on the US military ship that killed thirty-four Americans.
Most Americans are not familiar, Joe, with this story. Explain where you were on the boat in 1967. Then we’ll talk about what happened this past weekend.
JOE MEADORS: I was one of the two signalmen on the ship, and as a signalman, my work station was on the very top deck. It’s virtually an open deck. But at the beginning of the attack, I was up there, and most of the time I was up—either up there or down in the pilot house, one deck below.
AMY GOODMAN: And what happened?
JOE MEADORS: Throughout the whole morning, we had been flown over about a dozen times by Israeli aircraft, who were clearly identifying us. We had overheard their pilots radioing back to their bases. Two o’clock in the afternoon, two more—two Israeli air jets blew up our starboard side. And we were in the pilot house, so we ran up to the signal bridge, anticipating just another circling of the ship. The aircraft got directly ahead of us and turned immediately left and started strafing the ship. They had rockets inside each of the four gun sheds. We had four .50-caliber machine guns. And they also put rockets directly into each of the antenna mounts.
AMY GOODMAN: Why were they attacking a US military ship?
JOE MEADORS: They claim that they were—they mistook us for a forty-year-old rusted-out Egyptian tramp steamer, the El-Kasir. I don’t think anybody believes that.
AMY GOODMAN: We were looking—just watching and listening to people like Dean Rusk, the US Secretary of State. It’s now, what, more than forty years later. What were you doing on the Gaza aid flotilla?
JOE MEADORS: I had been invited by the people at the Free Palestine Movement to visit the Gaza and see if we can try to break the blockade.
AMY GOODMAN: In the case of 1967, did Israel ever claim responsibility for the attack? And what was the response of your government, of the United States?
JOE MEADORS: They claimed that they mistook us for an Egyptian tramp steamer. They claimed it was a mistake, and they apologized for the mistake. The US government accepted it. But then again, the US government has never conducted an investigation of the attack. War crimes were committed by both Israel and the United States during that attack, and we’ve been trying to get them investigated, but the US government just ignores our request.
AMY GOODMAN: Which ship were you on this time, Joe, forty years later?
JOE MEADORS: I was on the Greek passenger ship, the Svendoni.
AMY GOODMAN: And your thoughts about what happened last weekend in the early morning hours of Monday?
JOE MEADORS: I was kind of apprehensive, given the history I’ve had with the Israelis. I seem to have all the bad luck in the world when it comes to the Israelis. Their overtaking of our ship was quite simple. They just jumped onboard, a couple dozen of them, and took over the ship. They used tasers and kicked some of the people topside when they were trying to protect the captain and the pilot house. But their actions were quite swift.
AMY GOODMAN: And anything happen to you?
JOE MEADORS: No, nothing happened to me. As a matter of fact, on hindsight, they were fairly polite. It was always “please” and “thank you,” but those words take on a different meaning when they’re said at the point of a gun.
AMY GOODMAN: You were not, though, on the Mavi Marmara, where the nine activists were killed.
JOE MEADORS: No, we weren’t there.
AMY GOODMAN: Well, Joe Meadors, I want to thank you very much for being with us, survivor of the 1967 USS Liberty attack, where thirty-four Americans were killed, more than a hundred injured.
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oh props dude!!!!
Can’t believe I didn’t think of that!
Los 70s/En vivo 2004/ If I Cant Have You- Yvonne Elliman
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGHLkevz9Nc&feature=related
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Oooo gettin nostalgic
I better hit Rock before I start postin ABBA
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ROFL
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Hey Max G’mornin
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Henry Kissinger New World Order 2007
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bKwH3kJew4
Kissinger talking about Obama and the New World Order 2009
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1M-Wy55hsbU&feature=related
Why dont tees buggers ever kick the Bucket
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ROFL
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Commercial shorts are just about out of steam according to ted Butler on COT.
http://www.kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/Broadcast_Gold+/Entries/2010/6/5_Ted_Butler_on_the_Metals_Market_files/Metals%20Wrap%20Ted%20Butler%206%3A5%3A2010.mp3
Oh, thats Silver.
Gold COT is about 50/50 apparently.
OMG
Listening to Kissinger is tedious.
Why do we listen to dementia patients about the future of the world?