[OTE59] On the Edge . . . with Loren Howe

At the suggestion of @sevendeacons, we talk to Loren Howe, author of The Real Story of Money Health and Religion.

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50 Responses to [OTE59] On the Edge . . . with Loren Howe

  1. At 5:30 at the start of the interview Max says…”revolvling door…Treasury Dept and Federal Reverve…constant back and forth between these two ASS pects…” Ha ha– I though Max was going to say something else.
    –Van

  2. Max, all your interviews are super depressing.

  3. Max,
    Thank you for having Loren on. Amazing find, I’ve spend the last day going through his videos; his favorite book is mine also!, “How I Found Freedom in an Unfree World”; I would recommend this to anyone who is having trouble figuring out how the world really works and how to unhook yourself from the mess we’re in (as much as one is able…).

    Please consider interviewing Peter Joseph of the Zeitgeist Movement. He would benefit from the exposure you would give him and I think the two of you would find you had a lot in common.

  4. thank you his man humility is a strenght .we need coilistion of humility an inteligence,, lagniappe.

  5. @ Palantír

    Re Norway’s petroleums fund. Yes, you are right. If they want to sell the dollar denominated assets to get Norw. Kroner, then that will send the currency upwards. Or maybe they can do as the Chinese and issue bonds with the petroleums fund as a backing. Either way, they would directly import the depreciating dollar and create some weird inflation while at the same time overvaluing the Norw Krone. I wish they had bought gold instead.

  6. @mien – Loren was going on a 2 week vacation without internet just after the interview so he won’t be checking out comments until at least the end of June

  7. Hmm, Max seems to always use the 1-3 punch in his interviews.. first punch, he talks and build up to a question, second punch his guests strike back replying to the question from Max, then there is the third punch where Max continue talks expanding and conclude on his own. As if to hijack his guest point and make it his own for then to drive it into a expanding/different direction and conclude.

    Re: Israeli economic blockade
    Yehuda Avner a former diplomat and ambassador of Israel said in an interview with David McAlvany that in diplomacy “you have to have hardware to back up your diplomatic actions otherwise your toothless your paper tiger.” with attitudes like that they never gonna get peace.

    Re: Norway
    Since you touched upon it, first off, The government pension fund of Norway it is a state pension fund – not a peoples pensions fund, there is a difference there. But what I’m wondering about is since the fund holds its value in foreign currencies what would happen to the Norwegian Krone when the money from the fund gets use in Norway? Would that create a weird form of inflation if so much cash would be poring in? Though if changed from foreign currency to the Krona that is not inflation but would that strengthen the value of the Krone to the point of it becoming a real problem for export?

    Re:Guest
    good guest, have him on again and in total I like the program.

  8. max, pls make a show on the role of the middle class

  9. Sylvia Rogier

    Odd combination: environmental marxist libertarian….
    Not sure about his last comment about putting money aside and saving it – why would anybody put their money in the bank with only a 2% return? Low interest rates push people away from the banks. People also need decent wages (the kind where there’s some money left at the end of the month to save). Both these elements push people into the clutches of Wall Street. People either use their credit cards to make it til the end of the month, or they invest in bubble markets to try and get a higher return than the banks can offer.

  10. Loren still waiting?

    Spending dollars?

    Were?

    Please no oil pound,

    I can not change.

  11. @Marc Authier

    I think you are right, however Satan is running the CFR, and the inner circle of the illuminati which in turns owns the frigging world including USA.

    World turned on it’s head. Good is evil, Evil is Good, criminals are rewarded, the innocent are punished….it goes on and on. It’s just getting faster and out in the open.

  12. Are there any countries that are less entrenched in this slavery paradigm?

  13. Thank you. Very good information. I appreciate all your hard work.

  14. Interesting show.

    Incremental loss of rights and quality of living and “Nobody realizes what’s happening …?” Actually a lot of people in USA were, from times long ago, sounding the warnings about what the now become apparent to masses. Such people have been and still are labeled as “conspiracy nuts” and other assorted “freaks”.

    “Universal health care “was “tested” before the national rigged system imposed it on the entire USA. It was tested in the Peoples Republic of Massachusetts – imposed by “republican” Mitt Romney

    Boston Globe, March 2, 2009
    “MASSACHUSETTS HAS been lauded for its healthcare reform, but the program is a failure. … it has not achieved universal healthcare, although it’s been a boon to private insurance industry (sounds familiar).”

    Somehow – this test run was ignored by mass media and the DC kakistocracy. Now the entire USA gets to experience this “universal health care” (universal robbery).

    http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2009/03/02/mass_healthcare_reform_is_failing_us?mode=PF

    USA food is not food. And “meat”? No mention of toxic wastes fed to cows, chickens, etc. Not to mention the disgusting methods of raising and “processing” these animals.

    Go vegan, organic vegan. Save a animal, save your health, save the environment. All nutrients (except vitamin B12), including proteins can be obtained by (non-corporate, non-processed) vegetable matters (fresh as possible and organic grown is best, but other will do); the human diet that is “green” and “sustainable” (and animal friendly).

    Hiltil, Zurich fine vegetarian (and vegan) since 1898
    http://www.hiltl.ch/en/restaurant.php?id=001

    Anabanana, Luxembourg
    http://www.anabanana.lu/?langue=en

    Biocoop, France
    http://www.biocoop.fr/accueil.php

    Paris, vegan, (looks like you gotta sleep in the place to get the food -?)
    http://www.gentlegourmetbandb.com/

  15. Dear Loren,

    Please tell me you not working in London.

    Polaire light is nice.

  16. Loren Howe,

    Norwegian oil and gas is dollar rellated.
    Like the whole world.No Gold etc.

    The real harm for Norway and England.
    You exported gas and oil for dollars in DEBT Dollars.
    Live the USA! That was and is the lifestyle.

    And it will put you in deflation and comming poverty.

  17. Loren Howe,

    Norwegian oil and gas is dollar rellated.
    Like the whole world.No Gold etc.

    The real harm for Norway and England.
    You exported gas and oil for dollars (gold?),NO DEBT! ( dollars)
    Live the USA! That was and is the lifestyle.

    And it will put you in deflation and comming poverty.

  18. Mirror Mirror,

    Follow the Debt!
    750,0 Tr. is Dollar rellated.
    So if you want to pay the debt, the dollar will be the currency!(game theory 2.0 Bernanke!)
    The dollar will be the curency for the lifetime of debt!(DEFLATION).
    So everybody who is saying that the dollar is dead is just living in a mirrage.
    Gold is and will behave like a diamant, shinning and beautifull.
    It is like a fever.

  19. In order for governments to take back the creation of a sound monetary/political system a number of major issues will need to be addressed;

    The banishment of all secret societies eg Freemasons from any and all government jobs especially elected officials. These are today the ticket into any major government/military and major industry role. The undermining role played by these groups should not be underestimated. Even a cursory examination of the role played by these groups in driving todays political systems would highlight just how much control they have over governments and the agendas they pursue.

    The break up of all press and media monopolies to ensure the electorate has access to accurate information and a range of views

    No private political contributions, all political parties able to meet a defined criteria to be funded by taxpayers/state. This is a necessary condition to ensure the breakup of what has become a two party system in most countries owned by the same PTB, with different rhetoric but the same agenda.

    More use be made of referendums on major issues of policy EG going to war, changes to the constitution etc

    A truly representative government would then be able to ensure that it worked for its people and would not have the power to grow into the monstrosities they have become, representing vested interest and under under the thumb of the powerful lobbies and the PTB

  20. Marc Authier

    @Youri
    I know We are suffering. It’s the level of ignorance by good people that terrifies me. Good people are dangerous because they think that all these things are impossible. We say in french “bonasse”. Be good but not stupid. That’s the problem with goodness. It’s most of the time infantile.

  21. nice guy.

  22. Finally someone who speaks out about the waste that has been going on with the petroleums fund in Norway. Politicians always speak of investing in the feature and having something tucked away when the oil runs out in Norway, and guess what, a good chunk of it is absolutely worthless. A lot of people in Norway have no faith that this fund will be there when it is time to pay out pensions. Had they bought gold instead for all the money, Norway would have had 100 s of millions of ounces, the worlds biggest stash.

  23. FiatMentalist

    Nice interview Would like to have heard you go into religion more. Wanna know what my statutory rights are under the King James bible. Oh yeah apparently Gods a lawyer dont ya know, and an equity one at that!!

    http://seeker401.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/in-bed.jpg

    Do as thout will, some of you may be saying. The ancient word for god is EL, you see it in words as elders, election, some claim its in israel. He….ell. We all got a long way to go!!

  24. Marc Authier

    You forgot THE MAIN SOLUTION. Toppling the bastards in power, arresting the banksters and godamnd fascists politicians and saying to people from the IMF th ECB and the FED go hang themselves.

    It’s cool and fun seing buying hard assets and seing them giong up. But It won’t help a bit long term. You have to take power and topple these scums. You have to destroy the parasite in the government.

  25. Youri Carma

    @MirrorMirror

    Well that’s possible but than, I think it was Rickards who said that gold has to go to $10,000 or somtin. At that time they gonna consficate it.

    But they don’t want a table exchange system they want it to be volitile in this Fiat Ponzi so they can skimm the money of the system with their HFT rigging and so on and so forth.

    That’s why Geithner flew to Germany when they decided to ban the naked short selling and that’s why they will do everything in their power to keep the non transparant and non accountable derivative weapons of mutually assured destruction (M.A.D.)

  26. Youri Carma

    @Marc Authier

    Well thank you Marc and I agree but don’t forget that there are still a lot of good people out there. In fact I think a majority of them but somehow these psychopath eugenics satanic fascists always make it up high on the hill.

    Have to get rid of that top layer somehow.

  27. Marc Authier

    USA is runned by Satan.

  28. Youri Carma

    Interview – Confessions of an Economic Hit Man – Part II http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29GhXsx7-Rs

  29. Youri Carma

    @Loren Howe

    If you are reading this blog you can catch up on the IMF

    IMF same exact four-step program:
    http://www.gregpalast.com/the-globalizer-who-came-in-from-the-cold/

    1 Privatization ‘Briberization.’

    2 IMF/World Bank capital market deregulation allows investment capital to flow in and out the “Hot Money” cycle.

    3 Market-Based Pricing, a fancy term for raising prices on food, water and cooking gas

    4 IMF and World Bank call their “poverty reduction strategy”: Free Trade- “The IMF riot.”

    Also see “Confessions of an Economic Hit Man” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTbdnNgqfs8

  30. Youri Carma

    @alister

    You misunderstood.

    They need the central banks in the Fiat currency ponzi with zero interest rates now and rigging the markets, that’s what’s said.

  31. MirrorMirror

    Russia Kicks Dollar Dominance

    Conclusion: What is actually happening is that gold is likely becoming a defacto, secondary reserve currency. Reserve currencies have to be recognized universally and buyers and sellers have to have confidence in them. Gold fits the bill. Not only that, but we would argue that gold has never ceased to be the “real” reserve currency for the world’s wealthiest families and individuals and even for central bankers. Of course the powers-that-be will never admit this, which is one reason why there are continual statements regarding other reserve currencies, regional currencies, etc. Those who want to figure out what is really going on ought to simply “follow the money.” And money is gold.

  32. I would not be too surprised if Max were to appear on the next Zeitgeist movie, now that he’s feeling the need to speak up about Marx.

  33. Fundamentally, Mr Keiser’s credibility amongst intelligent people is likely to deteriorate somewhat based on his belief that central banks are necessary and or useful, constituting part of what he describes as “free markets”. This hurdle cannot be jumped over.

  34. Youri Carma

    More fearmongering: China damn will change rotation of Earth http://www.businessinsider.com/chinas-three-gorges-dam-really-will-slow-the-earths-rotation-2010-6

    No need to panic cause a milliard Chinese will all spit in the same direction to correct it. And btw we have longer working days so good for the economy.

  35. Youri Carma

    While we speak ….

    The president of the Ontario Federation of Labour was quoted as saying police might try to incite violence during G20 protests to justify their share of the security budget.

    Toronto police union calls for labour leader to resign over G20 security remarks The Canadian Press Jun 18, 2010 http://www.680news.com/news/local/article/67909–toronto-police-union-calls-for-labour-leader-to-resign-over-g20-security-remarks

  36. Youri Carma

    @Ray in Vancouver

    Good question but keep in mind that food prices are driven up by speculators anyways. But good be getting worse.

    Global food bubble on the way? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=344elODZbAY

    Regulating derivatives could lower price of food http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q902BFhlx38

  37. Ray in Vancouver

    re: food. It would be interesting to see the numbers on fish products from the Gulf. Obviously the Gulf of Mexico supplied a large amount of fish protein to the United States. That supply is deminishing daily. People have to eat so they will have to switch to another source of protein. Those sources would be chicken, beef products, soy etc. Will this put a burden on those supplies and send the cost of non fish based protein to the ionosphere?

  38. @ROVSKI

    Oh please…the “fat American” motif has been going on since the 80s and it will only continue until we’re hit with some sense or we die off.

    Shenzhen…oh how I’m baffled by thee. It is almost midnight and the streets are filled with people skateboarding, rollerblading, line dancing, and just strolling. Many men walkabout with their shirts off due to the insane humidity. Lots of long-legged women here.

    The job starts on Monday and it hit me that a year is a long time indeed. Must make frequent trips to Hong Kong to keep my sanity.

    $3.66 for a beer and free internet isn’t a bad deal.

  39. Youri Carma

    It’s not because I am in a good mood cause I am actually very tired but this Loren Howe dude realy hit the nail with his analyzes. Max has been saying this too, I know.

  40. Karsten Hansen

    The enslavement by the church!
    The enslavement by the church has always been the same,and why people in general dont understand this is the mistery!
    The best prove of this, is the frase”its harder for a rich to get into paradise,than it is for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle”???
    What more do people need to know,dont it just scream in your ears,like the doomsdays bel?
    Or the pope,forgive these poor priest,who cant keep theme self away from small servants,or the welth of the churches,the catolic in general,colecting welth,insted of giving help,so they can sit on there golden thrones,near by there god,witch they call mercyfull=invented to keep people stupid,preventing them from think,using there own brain and logik!
    Beside this,i love to hear Max and Stacys and the people they interweiw,beauce,it gives a good sight into the horror thats going on,and remembering,the good old days of the sixtys,when we told almost the same things,but we where just considered confused longhaired potsmoking idiots,but we where not,we warned against this,genmanipulation,pollution and greed and wars,and wee where right,so world,what are we gona do about it now,40 years to later=are we still idiots??
    Are we still bying the same illusions,sadly ,yes!!!

  41. If the CFTC won’t do its job it will have to be replaced by something that can.

    Ted Butler on Silver/Gold COT and no reply from CFTC on manipulation.

    http://www.kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/Broadcast_Gold+/Entries/2010/6/19_Ted_Butler_on_the_Metals_Market_files/Metals%20Wrap%20Ted%20Butler%206%3A19%3A2010.mp3

  42. Youri Carma

    Yep, quatorze juillet.

  43. I can not agree more on the food quality in the western world. I have worked and traveled internationally for twenty years and have been constantly surprised at how good the locally produced food is in developing countries.
    I now live in central Vietnam, where people have access to real food. They don’t like factory food, they will pay a premium for a garden chicken over a force feed battery hen. There is almost no obesity here, men in there 60s have a better physic than a lot of westerner men do in their twenties. I am ashamed as I watch the western tourists waddle around town.

  44. Wish he had addressed how religions support the enslavement of peoples.

  45. Yeah, Loran is a cool dude.
    I used to check out his blog on youtube, then it slowed down. Looks like he’s making vids again.
    He does videos about all sorts of interesting stuff, esp health, banks and this sort of thing he spoke about today.
    His blog is http://www.youtube.com/user/lorax2013

    One of the first ‘Truthers’ I found.

  46. Only 2/3 thru the series but I am impressed by Mr. Howe so far. Go Internet! It shines the light of truth. As for slavery, “The truth will set you free”.