Pre-Crime, Future Crime [Updated]

Stacy Summary:  Convergence of global police state following the sci-fi script to the word.  Re: the second story, I included quotes that support my hypothesis that the intelligence services are looking for crowd-sourced analysis.

Choice quotes.

First this one that could have come from Sumner “We’re not going to kill him” Redstone:

This appears to be the first time, however, that the intelligence community and Google have funded the same startup, at the same time. No one is accusing Google of directly collaborating with the CIA

And this:


America’s spy services have become increasingly interested in mining “open source intelligence” — information that’s publicly available, but often hidden in the daily avalanche of TV shows, newspaper articles, blog posts, online videos and radio reports.

“Secret information isn’t always the brass ring in our profession,” then CIA-director General Michael Hayden told a conference in 2008. “In fact, there’s a real satisfaction in solving a problem or answering a tough question with information that someone was dumb enough to leave out in the open.”

**Update**

And if you can’t even prove you don’t owe zero cents, how can you prove you weren’t going to commit that crime they ‘predict’ you were going to commit? Comcast threatens to cut off service unless customer pays the $0.00 he owes

**Update 2**

**Update 3**

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111 Responses to Pre-Crime, Future Crime [Updated]

  1. daaaang, someone is up late!

    “Security concerns over Facebook have been raised yet again after a security consultant collected the names and profile URLs for 171 million Facebook accounts from publicly available information. The consultant, Ron Bowes, then uploaded the data as a torrent file allowing anyone with a computer connection to download the data.”

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/pcworld/20100729/tc_pcworld/thefacebookdatatorrentdebacleqa

  2. err, early? Is this Paris time zone??

  3. WTF ???
    Minority Report

  4. @ Stacy & @ Y,all
    Now me Ancient Nuke war does’nt look so wierd does it ???
    lololololol
    ROFL
    Hic ;-)
    PS all of yas tote I was looney
    have fun now wit tees new laws

  5. geez, this “Recorded Future” thingy is the end of the web as we know it. The web is now just a big spy feature. It will take folks a while to figure this out before they begin to dropout.

  6. this could be one of my last posts on the web. See ya NSA.

  7. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/07/29/AR2010072906016.html

    Federal Reserve’s James Bullard: Long-term deflation is a possibility

  8. I am tellin yas tear are Aliens on Earth they heard us blow up ta first atomic bomb
    Our history is more tan 200,000 ears Humanity goes true 4 cycles
    stone age , castin age ferget tis one & atomic age
    Population reduction age in the eyes of ta Elitest we have reached “Peak Population”
    tose are not Astroids tat hit us tose are remanisince (howw spell tat) of a Nuke war
    lolololol
    ROFL
    Hic ;-)

  9. Neville Bartos

    Has anyone found good search engines that aren’t google?

  10. YOU ARE ALL UNDER ARREST!

  11. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_Bot

    The Web Bot has been claiming for some time to be able to predict the future using the interwebs.

  12. Crumpet Muncher

    I really don’t know why newspapers keep using the word democracy any longer. It’s like one of those meaningless words kids use to pad out their homework.

  13. First of all I think it is a common trap investors fall for in any type of AI/machine learning application: they over estimate the availability of data. Surly if terrorist know the internet is watched they will move on, or change their language. No way machine learning algorithms can keep up with that, the data sets will be to sparse. It you are tracking IP adresses you might as well track the people in real time, that may be infinitely more efficient.

    Second it is a gutwrenching irony that resouces are piled into a system that will change our culture to include ‘Being offline is not safe’. Once defence gets into people living online we are truly bound to be enslaved.

    Third, even more gutwrenching, is that this is another example of control trumping purpose. We can trumping we need. It will not last, it will not deliver significant results, it will help the corporate masters, it will ruin the planet.

  14. Secrecy is the best protection, and now you are sure te police will be bussy investigating the wannabe squealers..

  15. Here is a man that came back from the future, Arnold Schwarzenegger.

    He will be talking at the Bohemian Grove. Illuminated ones.

    http://www.pressdemocrat.com/article/20100728/ARTICLES/100729459?Title=Schwarzenegger-to-speak-at-Bohemian-Club-conclave&tc=ar

  16. @ Y’all
    But even if you look @ the US it has the same Law
    Yer a terrorist no Judge no trial
    Torture
    How is US laws any different
    Hic ;-)

  17. They don’t cal it a web for nothing.

  18. Crumpet Muncher

    @Mother – Secrecy is the best protection, and now you are sure te police will be bussy investigating the wannabe squealers..

    Yeah, but they won’t want to kill the squealers, they’ll just want to talk to them.

  19. Since the overthrow of the government is considered a crime and voting is an attempt to overthrow the government, shouldn’t all registered voters be arrested for intending to overthrow the government?

    I wondered for some time how Plato could have forseen 2900 years ago that democracy fails into tyranny. And yet living in that transition, now I wonder why the sheeple embrace it.

    Listen to this American woman begging for safety from terrorists. She says the US Constitution is a tool of terrorists and should be dismissed since good people have nothing to fear from tyranny. Wow.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sGqXvxbEtY

  20. God help ya if ya a sexy Chick

  21. Ya Caucasians in western countrys need to organise a 2 or 3 week STRIKE
    To stop tis Absurdness I tink USA EU & Russia
    List out yer Demands Also
    Hang the Banksters
    Audit tee Fed
    Hang Von Rompuyee
    Hic ;-)

  22. We have a potential terrorist attack in Holland. Someone made a cut of 1.5 meter lengthwise in peice of a rail, thus preventing the alarms to go off, and potentially causeing a derailment. This is (according to the rail company) a professional attack, and apparently there have been more recently in Europe..

  23. A new proposed dutch law will circumvent the legal process in allowing the government to take down websites and remove online content at will.

    http://tinyurl.com/3xwtzg8

  24. “THEY CAME FIRST for the Communists,
    and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Communist.

    THEN THEY CAME for the trade unionists,
    and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a trade unionist.

    THEN THEY CAME for the Jews,
    and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Jew.

    THEN THEY CAME for me
    and by that time no one was left to speak up.”
    -Martin Niemöller January 6, 1946

  25. Anyone interested in the Saudi Royals?
    biography http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNO7DPOsOYQ
    There’s a fairly good documentary called Search For Destiny

  26. Jim Sayz…

    IMF has completed review of the United States http://bit.ly/aoP8qJ. Looks like we passed & are allowed to remain independent for now

    Obama turning his back on #Bush gains for democracy in #Lebanon #Ukraine & #Georgia. Tough days for believers in democracy

    Aggregate Demand is not a problem. Demand is infinite at all times for all things at the right price. We need #deflation to rekindle demand

    Only 3 people left in America still take @NYTimeskrugman seriously. Sadly their names are #Bernanke #Summers & #Obama. #printbabyprint

  27. @Max and Stacy… this sceen in RESERVOIR DOGS comes to mind when i see you two together…..

    VOICE
    How’s Alabama?

    MR. WHITE
    Alabama? I haven’t seen Alabama over
    a year and a half.

    VOICE
    I thought you two were a team.

    MR. WHITE
    We were for a little while. Did about
    four jobs together. Then decided to
    call it quits. You push it long enough
    that woman man thing gets in your
    way after a while.

  28. ‘The wikileaks docs did not have the watermarks’ (a guy on AJ)

    ‘The secret russian weapons are so secret we can’t find them, but they are there’ (Rumsfelt)

    ‘Saddams has secret bio weapons, the fact we have a hard time findinge them proves they are secret’ (Rumsfeld more recently)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrzMhU_4m-g

  29. Neville Bartos

    @ jischinger

    Interesting, thanks. I shall give it a go.

  30. @Chenjeshu – thanks for the link; yes, everyone should be certain that, in most locations, your neighbors, friends and associates will have been successfully brainwashed to believe that only bearded men in caves and those who associate with them have something to hide and they will have heard Fox News plant this ‘nothing to hide’ meme so deep in their subconscious they will think they came up with the belief themselves; they will believe and trust the picture the government/corporation paints of you based on a combination of a cut and paste portrait and information only they can see because to reveal it would ‘jeopardize national security’

  31. @Mongo

    >> YOU ARE ALL UNDER ARREST!

    Again?!

  32. Mike/Liverpool

    Meanwhile back on Planet Earth….the FED is going to print in Sept ….so Sez Marc Faber

    Mike

  33. scary, why am i not surprised

  34. ‘Meet Caterina Fake, the creative spark behind Hunch. Her big idea? Develop a web service that knows what you want before you even want it.

    Get people talking about themselves — their opinions, tastes, beliefs, idiosyncrasies. Then, once they have shared enough information, mine that data for correlations that provide precisely tailored recommendations for each user. It is a quietly radical premise, implying that our tastes are defined not only by what we buy or what we’ve liked in the past but by who we are as people.

    There’s only so much it can learn from 1 million users. So Hunch is scouring the Web for information, combing the databases of social sites like Facebook and Twitter for anything that’s publicly available — opinions and allegiances, likes and dislikes, followers and friend requests. Hunch is learning whether people who identify themselves as liberals on Facebook share similar dining preferences. It is learning whether people who follow Glenn Beck on Twitter like the same kind of cars. The idea behind this treasure hunt is fairly simple — the more sophisticated and thorough Hunch’s taste data becomes, the better its recommendations.’

    http://www.wired.com/magazine/2010/07/ff_caterina_fake/all/1

    Why so curious?

  35. Ron Paul on CNN Rick’s List, Afghanistan Secrets 07/29/10

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvVl_3ECopE&feature=player_embedded

  36. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8KQmps-Sog

    The paranoia is in bloom, the PR
    The transmissions will resume
    They’ll try to push drugs
    Keep us all dumbed down and hope that
    We will never see the truth around
    (So come on!)

    Another promise, another scene, another
    A package not to keep us trapped in greed
    With all the green belts wrapped around our minds
    And endless red tape to keep the truth confined
    (So come on!)

    Chorus
    They will not force us
    They will stop degrading us
    They will not control us
    We will be victorious

    Interchanging mind control
    Come let the revolution take its toll if you could
    Flick the switch and open your third eye, you’d see that
    We should never be afraid to die
    (So come on!)

    Rise up and take the power back, it’s time that
    The fat cats had a heart attack, you know that
    Their time is coming to an end
    We have to unify and watch our flag ascend

    Chorus
    They will not force us anekatips.com
    They will stop degrading us
    They will not control us
    We will be victorious

    Hey .. hey … hey .. hey!
    (repeat)

    Chorus
    They will not force us
    They will stop degrading us
    They will not control us
    We will be victorious

    Hey .. hey … hey .. hey!
    (repeat)

  37. Al-doomandbloom

    now for some conspiracy news ( my fav)
    ==============================

    A major astrological phenomenon known as the Grand Cardinal cross is scheduled to take place on Aug 7. Not sure of how this impacts, but most of the cabal’s activities seem to be centered around major astrological events.

    Ben also suggests some major event on Aug 6.
    http://benjaminfulford.typepad.com/benjaminfulford/

    Aug 13 is considered to be sacred day of Hecate ( Greco-Roman goddess associated with magic ). A key date observed by the dark magi.
    ================================

    all in all an eventful two weeks of aug..

  38. In the end, we are all damned

    At least Redstone is being glib: What about Federal Government that is never such a thing? As much as there is fraud, corruption, neurosis in individuals, I fear the collective and coercive power of the Government most.

  39. It’s so funny how easily you can fool people duping them in thinking their part of the power system. You give them a secrecy clearance which make them feel realy important but what they don’t realize is that this secrecy clearance is meant for them and actualy means “Shut The Fuck Up!”

    Paraphrase Colonel Philip J Corso (ret.) The secret service operate so paranoia that they burry themselves and nobody knows nothing.

  40. Welcome to Orwells paradise, we who know are expendable!

  41. Internet opens Country

    Girl-band tests Myanmar limits http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8pFFPBefmc

  42. Foreclosures: Killing middle class dreams http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAihl2QSZRo

  43. 1% less oxygen producing life in the oceans every year. We are toast.

    http://tinyurl.com/3ymppyt

  44. Please, someone shoot me, I’m banging my head against the wall here.

    11,000 new houses built as 300,000 still lie empty
    Report warns 120,000 unlikely ever to be sold
    http://www.independent.ie/national-news/11000-new-houses-built-as-300000-still-lie-empty-2278269.html

  45. Please, someone shoot me, I’m banging my head against the wall here.

    11,000 new houses built as 300,000 still lie empty
    Report warns 120,000 unlikely ever to be sold
    http://www.independent.ie/national-news/11000-new-houses-built-as-300000-still-lie-empty-2278269.html

  46. Danny is now Geek Boy’s Revenge btw.
    …..thats funny….

  47. @Max & Stacy

    TnX! 2.8 GB Facebook directory personal details for 100 million users Downloaded

  48. Now lets automatically harrass each and every facebook member in a detailed and personalized manner so the pipe dream of a fb ipo will be squashed, and the US can implode a bit earlier..All for the good of our descendants.

    The 20% with their head in their arses under the control of the 1% or less oligarchs will kill the other carbon neutral rural 80% living of 10 usd/day because with one’s head inside one’s arse one tends to block the senses..

  49. Saudi, Syrian leaders land in Lebanon amid tension
    http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hcDYpQGlbNstvLNNr-r1PfD_b8FwD9H9BING0
    US now says Pakistani support for Taliban ‘in the past’
    http://www.hindustantimes.com/americas/US-now-says-Pakistani-support-for-Taliban-in-the-past-/579884/H1-Article1-579777.aspx

    USA is like a phsycotic being it gives Taliban Money to fight
    It gives Pakistan money to give money to Taliban
    It gives Pakistan money
    Poor US troops if tey only knew how tear US Govt. was screwin wit tem
    Hic ;-)

  50. GDP should be up, GDP is a basicly a measurement of debt increase, therefore QE has a direct effect on a GDP statistic some down the line.

  51. William Wilson

    Hi Stacy and Max,
    I read your blog daily, and enjoy the disclosure regarding bankster-inspired techniques for market manipulation.
    Unfortunately, it appears you/Gismodo mis-interpreted the significance of Peer Block software.

    Had you read the comment by:
    LessthanZach
    04:38 AM
    you could follow the link to Peer Block to learn that this software actually can be configured to block the sites which you listed in your article. You need to dig a bit further to try to understand the design of that modified torrent software.

  52. Oooops.
    Silver spike.
    “This game is getting ridiculous”
    Oh, I seem to say that every month.

  53. Fiatmentalist

    Expect a diversion involving Bangladesh

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-10813750

    @Mike either print or embrace austerity. Obama needs to sell that one to the people. He needs to sell the “free” giveaway of money to corrupt congressmen in time for mid-term elections haha. This will spin things out for another year.

  54. To be considered in the surveillance debate:

    Does Surveillance Make Us Morally Better?
    http://www.philosophynow.org/issue79/79westacott.htm

  55. Ha!
    That’ll be Sqawk :o

  56. Fat Finger.
    I give up

  57. #Fed & #Treasury want to avoid “fire sales” of assets. What’s wrong w/ fire sales? Markets clear, animal spirits revive, people get cash etc

    New #IMF report on U.S. says “authorities…need to raise taxes” (p.56) http://bit.ly/c2iTSu. Giving us the 3rd world, Club Med treatment

    Other #IMF paper shows surprise employment so weak in recovery, p11 http://bit.ly/aoP8qJ. That’s because not a recovery, it’s a #Depression

    What’s up with 5 new #IMF reports on U.S. economy released on Friday in the summer? Do they think no one is watching?

    Jim Rickards will be on CNBC’s Squawk Box Monday morning at 8:40 EDT. It’s a follow-on to awesome Bullard interview #inflation #deflation #Depression

    Bullard now on until 9amET Jim! :) He wants to stick around!!

  58. I am AMAZED and bewildered I can’t Get Max and Stacy to comment on this story on any of their shows. I haven’t heard anyone talk about this in MSM outside of the Los Angeles Times, and I think it fits in perfectly with their recent internet paranoia theme. And I think this paranoia is somewhat legitimate paranoia.
    http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-adv-alaska-terrorists-20100723-1,0,5991303.story

  59. Youri Carma

    Donnow if this facbook info is commercially very usefull?

    It seems mor that these hacks are premeditated to convince people that the big brother controlled internet is good.

    If so we’re gonna see many more of these government “false flag” premeditated hacks. Plays right into the hands of the Rockefellows who hate the free info on internet.

  60. krugman ignores the volatility of velocity…..again. http://nyti.ms/acsQOP

  61. Youri Carma

    @Ted K

    Because the government only wants you to know about “false flag” attacks they control.

    Many real threats are kept out of the media and only come in the MSM if it serves the governments goals.

    Keep this in mind and you will find evidence of my statement everywhere.

  62. Did you check the happenings in Greece and e.g. Crete, Corfu and Rhodos ?
    Strikes are making society collapse.
    Fuel is getting scarce due to truck driver strikes.
    Tourists are stuck…

  63. Neville Bartos

    Ummm how exactly does Peer Block grab the IPs of the other users also downloading the torrent? I don’t think it works that way. Peer blocker works off a blacklist.

  64. James Turk: Deciphering the BIS Gold Swap – http://bit.ly/bS4MJY

  65. richard@lattitude30N

    @Bonn: well well well..so yopu have read THE EARTH CHRONICLES…what a surprise.

  66. Marc Authier

    Russian are like Americans. They have much mote practice at tyranny. USSA is quickly catching up.

  67. petit jaune

    Y’all- Try ‘The lost honour of Katharina Blum’ by Heinrich Boll 1974…..nothing new under the sun! Bon weekend.

  68. Marc Authier

    Likw in the film Minority Report. WELCOME BACK TO STALISN. Russia will never learn from it’s past errors. As for you in the USA, hell also awaits you. Preventive wars. THE STATE OUR ENEMY.

  69. Youri Carma

    Wikileaks contacted Obama Admin. before release of documents but got no response http://www.infowars.com/wikileaks-contacted-obama-admin-before-release-of-documents-but-got-no-response/

  70. St Louis Feds Bullard on CNBC today

    on QE aka money printing to fight deflation

    http://www.cnbc.com/id/15840232/?video=1555443840&play=1

  71. Fiatmentalist

    Maurice Strong on climate ‘conspiracy’, Bilberberg and population control

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/blog/2010/jun/22/maurice-strong-interview-global-government

  72. @Stacy

    Corporations and Gvt Intelligence have been “collaborating” for quite a while now. Just wading my way through Daniel Yergin’s “The Prize: the epic quest for oil, money and power” and here we can clearly see how Standard Oil were intertwined with Gvt and Intelligence services since the late 1800s.

  73. Youri Carma

    BP Oil Pipeline In Alaska Could Be The Next Disaster (VIDEO) http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/07/27/bp-oil-pipeline-in-alaska_n_660911.html

  74. Russia to give security services powers to arrest people for crimes they have yet to commit – Did Joe Lieberman move to Russia? lol

    As Celente likes to say “the second American revolution has begun.”

    Get busy.

  75. Youri Carma

    Tribal Elder To NY Times: ‘To Be Honest, The People Prefer The Taliban’. http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/30/world/asia/30baghlan.html?_r=1&hp=&pagewanted=all

  76. Marc Authier

    FBI Fascist Bureau of Insignificance.

    The MI5 too had a massive dossier on George Orwell.

    These bastards always work for the government. Statism is scum.

  77. standing armies,,,,men,,,have fallen before the ark,,,they ay…an army ..that carries the ark before it…is…invincible

  78. @Ted K – we haven’t commented on this story either, where some deranged guy had an assassination list of targets at ACLU and Tides Foundation: http://articles.sfgate.com/2010-07-21/news/21991372_1_chp-officers-body-armor-san-francisco

    We already have enough on our hands covering the hundreds of deranged bankers and politicians, why attempt also to cover the many thousands of randomly deranged individuals, both manufactured and real, roaming the US? Or are you saying because those deranged people are Muslim that they are then scarier than the deranged guy who hates ‘liberals’? Or the deranged bankers?

  79. DemocracyNow following the story.

    Google Teams Up with CIA to Fund “Recorded Future” Startup Monitoring Websites, Blogs & Twitter Accounts
    http://www.democracynow.org/2010/7/30/google_teams_up_with_cia_to

  80. Illinois Brandon

    You have radical muslims talking about conquering Rome like Constantinople. This is inviting Catholics to attack them in Europe.

  81. We already have enough on our hands covering the hundreds of deranged bankers and politicians, why attempt also to cover the many thousands of randomly deranged individuals, both manufactured and real, roaming the US? Stacy Herbert

    Good point Stacy and good afternoon.

    “There are a thousand hacking at the branches of evil to one who is striking at the root.” — Henry Thoreau

  82. @Neville Bartos

    Alex Jones mentioned this one as a good search for privacy minded peeps.

    http://www.startpage.com/

    Here’s a review of it:

    http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2358589,00.asp

    “LONDON (Reuters) – Search-engine company Startpage launched a service allowing users concerned about privacy to carry out Web searches and click on linked pages without being identified, tracked or recorded.”

  83. Ian Cunliffe

    Reference your link re Google and CIA. A private company has been doing this for some time and proven to be remarkably accurate in it’s predictions. Check out “Half Past Human”.

  84. Bernard Romanycia

    Nyet nyet you haven’t commited a crime yet.

  85. They is the owl.

  86. Marc Authier

    The best way to screw people like the FBI is to overload their stupid paranoid security system.

    The strategy would be to oveload their mainframes with all phoney data. A little bit like in the science fiction film Colussus.

    This film was a rarity. This US made film does not have a happy ending. Overload the FBI, the CIA and the FSB, the MI5, overload these bastards m with noise.

    What’s the number again in the USA of ‘potential home grown’ USA terrorists ? 1,5 million ? 3 million ? Has somebogy a update of the number ?

  87. @Marc – I agree. But the false data would have to be geniusly programmed as their own software systems will be good at identifying fake footprints

  88. A superb story/autobiography told by a former Communist Party member in the US is Bella Dodd’s “School of Darkness”. Can be read online here: http://genus.cogia.net/

  89. MirrorMirror

    Sprott’s John Embry “Gold Is On The Cusp Of A Parabolic Move Up”

    http://www.zerohedge.com/article/sprotts-john-embry-gold-cusp-parabolic-move

    Sprott states much common sense and mostly all the things we already know (here). However, it is nice to see it all in one short article.

    The main qusetion is how long and how will the PTB be able to keep the Ponzi scheme going. Sprott reckons that as CBs are now wising up and becoming net buyers of PHYSICAL gold, the end game could be near quite soon.

    FWIW

  90. Some years ago, I started receiving an inordinate number of death threats. In a single week, I received some 255 death threats. I only figured out why when a friend revealed to me that the FBI had questioned him about me. Apparently, whatever they were telling people about me or however they were posing questions, was making a lot of people want me dead.

  91. @Marc Authier

    Colossus computer WOII http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colossus_computer

    This movie I quess: Colossus: The Forbin Project (1970) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0064177/

  92. I don’t know if anyone’s noticed that the “draconian” new law in Russia is about a thousand times mellower than the new laws in the United States. Suspicion of having terrorist thoughts, usually but not always arising from the display of suboptimal skin color, is ALL we need. We don’t even warn them. We don’t even CHARGE them. We just pick them up and rendition them, or throw them behind bars, or cap them on sight… just leaving out the TORTURE part for lack of hard evidence. The more heroic the authorities can make themselves seem for having had these suspicions and arrested the suspiciously darker young males, the better. The West’s propaganda against Russia really gets on my nerves.

  93. @Ted K

    I don’t mean to go AJ on ya buddy, but you are playing in the sandbox. The government sent this fool to AK after he converted? LOL! Wake up dude! All the Mooselims you worry about are cutouts!

  94. The best way to screw Security agency’s is to laugh @ ‘em and ignore tem
    nobody on tis earth can take a joke from a stranger