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A Lightning War for Liberty













Yeah. Austerity for what ? Papandreou should get a good kick in the pants. Kick the bums out of office. The greek government is illegitimate. They only thing that would save Greece is a toppling of the government and long prison terms to the bums that ingineered the paper frauds all these years. And saying to the creditors to go hang themselves.
By the way I think Goldman Sachs is still operating in Greece and the sun of bitch in charge of the greek central bank is an ex director of you guest it, Goldman Sachs. What’s wrong with these Greeks ?
A french insult. Va te faire voir chez les Grecs. I am really starting to think that Greeks are having problems with their brains.
Peter Schiff said this was a good thing on CNBC during the week. Austerity doesn’t work in a depression.
Why didn’t Greece quite the euro zone for say, 5 year, refinanced its debt (=no austerity measures, no IMF etc.), started to deal with the massive corruption and returned a healthy country? why did they not default OUTSIDE of the euro zone? only heaven knows.
@Geek
Austerity works if debts are manageable. They ain’t. The only option is defaulting and getting out of the European slave state.
@Marc
And Germany and France refused to take hair-cuts on the loans so now thats gonna come back and bite them on the ass. “Debts that can’t be paid, won’t be”.
Maybe Stefan is correct: maybe all governments do is hinder, restrict and plunder. Cradle of Democracy in Greece now under siege by fascist bankers: the world stands silently by awaiting their turn to be shorn bare.
Thanks for having Stefan on your show , Max. He is quite the braniac, and listening to you two discuss the issues was quite fascinating. I like a lot of his ideas.
I also liked Stiv’s efforts of boycott, his calm demeanor doing the dirty work of emptying fascist pocketbooks. He is a hero. In the belly of the beast, and denying it sustenance. Quite brave, actually, and very demonstrative of why we should all remember our 5th grade lessons on being specific and not generalizing.
I did have a few difficulties with Stefan’s ideas, though. 1. Never use Thomas Jefferson sending a policing action to thwart pirating of ships as “proof” of unilateral illegal “war” actions by the Chief Executive. That is kind of a lame analogy, and I would never agree with it. Reagan invading Granada, yes. Invading Central America for United Fruit, yes. Ridding the waves of pirates…not so much.
2. I applaud the idea of sending every household a bill for every military expense as it is spent. I’ve said exactly that for years. I liked Jerry Brown’s idea better. My fav governor. (he could balance a checkbook! WOW!!!!)
When he ran opposite Clinton in 1992, won two primaries in a row, MSM kept him from airwaves (The Mockingbirds of msm killed Brown’s candidacy so the CIA candidate, Bill Clinton could win.) What was msm-labeled “Governor Moonbeam’s idea about the military????
We bring home ALL the troops world-wide NOW, close all foreign bases. We bring them back to rebuild America infrastructure. When asked by a breathless Mockingbird “what about protecting Europe” he said he would leave a small amount and I quote: “like a Boy Scout Troop”, to wander around making everyone “feel good.”
We already had a presidential candidate that balances budgets. That does not complete highway projects padding donor nest eggs through borrowed money funded projects. There were many many highway “off-ramps to nowhere” under Brown: no money=no finishie. No tickie=no laundry.
Reagan left us broke, Brown then balanced the budget, then sent us real Tax Rebates of SURPLUS BUDGET FUNDS.
Stefan, you say government is the problem, and we need to “move the center” of power away from them into local hands. I agree.
I do believe that is what Jefferson had in mind. That was the original document: The Articles of CONfederation. That is Reality, Mr. History Major. Maybe you know better than me: I am just a simple high school grad/history buff.
But more to the point: who sends these military bills out, who collects the funds, if not a government??? Who enforces non-payment? How? You have simply changed who we funnel our tax monies to.
You are on to something very desperately needed right now Stefan: a non-conflict solution to the looming economic Ice Berg we are on collision course with. Max, have him back, be better prepared to ask questions and have Stefan define HOW to implement.
Good on ya both!
That the Ideal is not followed, does not mean Stefan and farang are much cleverer then Jefferson, Washington, Henry & Co.
It does not. It WAS imperfect, it WAS a piece of paper to delineated Property Rights for Landowners.
You’re premise Stefan, seems to echo that quite closely.
But good on ya, and good on Max for having you on: gee, we had to THINK while we watched, what a novel concept!!
Korp Khun Korp!!! Mak mak!!
Here ya go every one,…some different “words” to use other than the ones given, for you to repeat,…( I’m getting a headache)
abstemiousness, asceticism, chasteness, chastity, continence, determination, economy, prudence, puritanism, self-denial, self-discipline, sobriety, stoicism, strictness, temperance
Gold manipulation: Central banks are now in deep trouble
http://www.financeandeconomics.org/Articles%20archive/2010.08.18%20Gold.htm
Here’s an interesting site, to help monitor the efficiency of world wide propaganda !
http://www.languagemonitor.com/news/top-words-of-2009/
Rome revisited
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1300742/Anger-grows-Barclays-3-9bn-profit-defying-calls-increase-lending.html
When almost all money = debt, no debt = almost no money supply. There are ways to do money that require no borrowing or lending such as common stock or the modern day equivalent of tally sticks.
No Copyright Law – The Real Reason for Germany’s Industrial Expansion? by Frank Thadeusz (Der Spiegel) http://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/0,1518,710976,00.html
Entering a Death Spiral? – Tensions Rise in Greece as Austerity Measures Backfire, 18 August 2010 by Corinna Jessen in Athens (Der Spiegel) http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/0,1518,712511,00.html
@F.Beard,….Your comment implies you really don’t get it ,..do you!
Read this book in it’s entirety F.B,..and get back to me,…: )
http://de-school.net/NewStudy/StudentCommons/d~m~/d~m~_files/Jacques_Ellul.pdf
in order
to reach someone, one must first convince him that propaganda is ineffectual and not very clever.
Because he is convinced of his own superiority, the intellectual is much more vulnerable than anybody else to this maneuver…
@Dedo,
Come again? What is it I don’t get?
HOMEOWNERS’ REBELLION:
COULD 62 MILLION HOMES BE FORECLOSURE-PROOF? (Ellen Brown
Because he is convinced of his own superiority, the intellectual is much more vulnerable than anybody else to this maneuver… Dedo
Do you see a man wise in his own eyes? There is more hope for a fool than for him. Proverbs 26:12
If the big leader Bernankesan goes QE Japan goes QE. How original in the two last decades of Japan in constant deflation. Bank of Japan reportedly considering more easing http://www.marketwatch.com/story/bank-of-japan-reportedly-considering-more-easing-2010-08-18
Bernankesan is about to become the King of Deflation while he knows he needs inflation to reduce the debt. Stimulus did hardly anything for the real economy while money is being hoarded to fill in huge losses and there is nothing Bernankesan can do about this uncertainty. The world has mad itself captives of huge debts which only a few can brush a way. At some point it can’t. Bonds getting watered down in huge volumes and nobody want’s to buy them anymore at some point cause there’s too much.
Correction: “The two lost decades of Japan” and still not much improvemnet in the situation.
The “performance criteria have all been met, led by a vigorous implementation of the fiscal programme and important reforms are ahead of schedule,” the EU, IMF and European Central Bank officials said in a joint statement.
“Our overall assessment is that the programme has made a strong start.”
IMF official Poul Thomsen told journalists that he was confident Greece would receive the second installment of a three-year, 110- billion-euro rescue package.
“We would expect, on the basis on that (positive assessment), that the disbursement would take place on schedule in September.”
http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/news/338168,austerity-measures-summary.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkvRh0Rb_1Y
IMF/EU/ECB ‘impressed’ with Greek austerity.
http://www.imf.org/external/np/sec/pr/2010/pr10308.htm
Check out 4closure.org. They bring you the documents.
This one is the equivalent of a pie in the judge’s face:
http://4closurefraud.org/2010/08/18/foreclosure-fraud-oladiran-v-suntrust-plaintiffs-motion-for-a-honest-and-honorable-court-system/
This one should put the brakes on some foreclosures. A corollary to too-big-to-fail must be too-big-to-bother-with-the-laws.
http://4closurefraud.org/2010/08/17/washington-mutual-jpmorgan-chase-fdic-deal-not-finalized-so-how-can-jpmorgan-foreclose-on-wamu-loans/
OH … so the picture shows Greece. (got it)
people are surprised that during economic downturns austerity measures are counterproductive?
The evil state alays runs deficits during lean times, from the duality of lost revenues from unemployment and decreases in property value both shrink the taxs base…then the higher demand on services from increased incarceration rates to dole payments….you start decreasing the dole, you’ll have to double the expenditures on law enforcement and prisons…
so lean times deficits…robust times surpluses…somewhere people during robust times where told they didn’t have to pay for their services
One loop missing. FASCISM and DICTATORSHIP.
Yo Yo Yo, original G Maximilian Keiser!!!! I am in athens right now. Been here for 5 days pimp money and ain’t nothing happening. TOO god dam hot! The white people are melting. You could dry a tomato in 3 minutes. and let me tell you, Greek people deserve more. They are great warm people. I did have an encounter with the new police order. Come here and try to take a picture. It is like asking the government for money…..if your a citizen , not a bank.
Just proves economists are godamn assholes. Go get a real job you godamn governnent and banking bloodsucking parasites. All economics departments should be closed for good.
http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/
Same situation in Iceland currently under the IMF program. Our economy is headed for “ultimate stability”, by coming to a complete halt !
Soaring mortage payments, crashing real estate prices, unemployment, tax hikes, and the looming possibility of a 2nd wave of bank-system failures…