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The bankers have employed the same play for centuries
Here is how it works
First they flood the market with easy money (which resulted in over building the real estate market); then they retract the money supply, (which was done this time via the rules of TARP & Basel II, etc).
When the money supply is retracted, corporations cannot fund their manufacturing. Thus, they have to lay off
Once everyone is in bankruptcy, (with 20 million vacant homes), these same bankers come in and swoop up all the assets for pennies on the dollar!
@Stacy
Glad we could have Gerald on again. I think it is important to have him on every now and again. He is like a hit upside the head, (his words transliterated into my own), “You got to focus!!!!”
gerald celente for president! fucking love when this guy is on max’s show. until the profit motive is removed from society(somehow), there will always be war and always be poverty. until we understand that the rich are laughing and will continue to do so unless something changes. im not talking socialism, or any ism. we need new ideas. new concepts. something besides the usual rhetoric that we have become accustomed to since well, forever.
CO2 is an Hoax. Plants breath CO2 to produce O2 (not the mobile phone stupid!). there is hardly any CO2 in earth’s atmosphere and Ice Core research has shown that CO2 always comes AFTER the earth has warmed up – NEVER BEFORE. it’s a SCAM!
CO2 Contributed by Human Activity: 12 to 15ppmv / version 1 Vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYLmLW4k4aI
CO2 lags an average of about 800 years behind the temperature changes http://www.co2science.org/articles/V6/N26/EDIT.php
Comparison of Atmospheric Temperature with CO2 Over The Last 400,000 Years http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/last_400k_yrs.html
Have we “squandered our resistance”?
Lady’s and Gentlemen, The main event, The undefeated World Champion “ Monetary System” VS the entity that has never won a single round ‘The Homo Sapiens”
Jabs, bobbing and weaving, Babylon[1531BC], feinting, drawing leads, Greece[400BC], counterpunching, Rome[476AD] tying up and mixing it, with body shots along with 1,2’s, Hanseatic League punch combinations flurries were utilized, British Empire[1902]short, lateral movement, body positioning technique and strategy, body punching, “Rope a dope”, USA[Late2002AD]
We had best be “laying out our winter clothes” Simon & Garfunkel – The Boxer Gerald Celente always makes me think of the boxer
@Daruka
Yep, Al Qaeda= Al CIAda a CIA name for operations against the Russians by helping the Taliban(s) cause these are several tribal groups not one.
Zbigniew Brzezinski Taliban Pakistan Afghanistan pep talk 1979 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJTv2nFjMBk
Report: Bin Laden Already Dead – Fox News http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,41576,00.html
@youri carma
BBC now admits al qaeda never existed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsUtvOW6SR0&feature=player_embedded
Fake Al Qaeda Actors EXPOSED! Adam Gadahn & Yousef al-Khattab
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-hYorNi0nA&feature=player_embedded
@seosamhogallunai
An Iraqi family who fled to europe declared how the lost their father who was taking his little child for some air on the building rooftop randomly taken out by a U.S. sniper. sickening!
American soldiers shooting civilians http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stq1Gd3OnGk
Random shootings in Iraq http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2e5PTz9qoA
American soldiers shoot at a civilian bus in Iraq http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFKR9jzenyM
btw this Vids are all before wikileaks.
If and that in the medical world is a big IF this succeeds it will be a revolution that equates to the birth of the internet. Of course expect big phama to totally exploit :-
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1305134/The-secret-search-medicines-holy-grail-Could-result-cure-undreamed-power–catastrophic-surge-cell-growth.html
Big phama has a way of keeping people ill and not informing patients of cheap easy to-get solutions. So I will inform you of one. Chronic Migraine is not curable – true but the NHS answer are triptans – take a look at the leaflet with the tablets to see just how dangerous these drugs are and they include migraine as a ‘side effect’ Trust me the migraine you will get from Triptans is absolutely appalling.
DON’T TAKE THEM
People with migraine have been found to be low in magnesium and have low serotonin levels . The solution – take magnesium probably the most convenient way is to have a bath in Epsom salts regularly, when your migrainal bath your feet in Epsom salts warm enough so that you can just about take it. Magnesium is then absorbed through the skin and you will not suffer rear end problems associated with magnesium intake. To keep serotonin levels eat ice cream. I know sugar is bad for you but if you have chronic migraine its a far safer way than Triptans, just make sure you dont go over the top.
Your thinking bathing my feet in Epsom salts for migraine is crazy, try it and see.
WL
Aug 22, 2010 at 7:14 am
“Economic Collapse – Peter Schiff – We “Probably” Won’t Make It To 2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pALwgXdLppM”
WL:
I just love Schiff as well as Celente, Keiser, Farber, Paul, and Rogers. Since I know absolutely nothing whatsoever about economics, the market, finance, accounting, banking, the ecology, or astrology [my major was theoretical mathematics in college before I became "saved" and became a lawyer], I try to at least listen to those who have good track records – which doesn’t include anyone on the nightly news.
What really makes me nervous is when all of these aforementioned guys start agreeing. December 21, 2010 isn’t that far off as evidenced by all of the governmental spins by our song and dance President in trying to explain the near riots recently in Atlanta! Does this harbinger a Celente future?
If I were to have my way I would have Max the Secretary of the Treasury, Peter Schiff the chairman of the fed, Ron Paul the President, Stacy Herbert as his economic advisor, and Gerald Celente as Secretary of Defence!
As a follow up from my last post — last night I met a beautiful German girl who loved Latin dances [cha cha, rumba, bolero, salsa, etc.] but who spoke little English. It was a good evening.
10:30 a. m. 97 degrees 100% humidity – and they are whining in Moscow they need to try a summer in Alabama! Back to work, brief due in the morning! Bye yawl.
Guards employed by Blackwater, the US security company, shot Iraqis and killed victims in allegedly unprovoked and random attacks, it was claimed yesterday.
A Virginia court also received sworn statements from former Blackwater employees yesterday alleging that Erik Prince, the company’s founder, “views himself as a Christian crusader tasked with eliminating Muslims and the Islamic faith from the globe”.
They also accused the company of following a policy of deliberate killings and arms dealing and of employing people unfit or improperly trained to handle lethal weaponry.
In Baghdad yesterday, some Iraqis said they believed that the case was a last chance for justice and an opportunity for America to divorce the behaviour of its military from the private guards.
Farid Walid, who was shot in Nisour Square two years ago during a massacre that killed 17 Iraqis, said: “Everybody here knows of cases where Blackwater guards shot innocent people without a second thought. They are a symbol of the occupation. Nobody will forget. But Iraqis might think at least a little differently of America if the killers are put in prison.”
Mr Walid is among several Iraqis behind an attempt to take Blackwater to court in the US, helped by an American lawyer, Susan Burke, and her local legal team.
Umm Sajjad, whose husband was allegedly shot by Blackwater guards, said: “The US forces have come to our neighbourhood many times and they never harmed anybody. It was Blackwater that wanted to harm people.”
Her husband was working as a security guard at the Iraqi Media Network, a state broadcaster, when a Blackwater convoy passed them one day in 2007. She says that without warning, the Iraqis were fired upon and three of them were killed. The Blackwater convoy never stopped or sent anyone to check what happened.
Umm Sajjad said: “I was told that there was no exchange of fire or any other reason to provoke them to shoot at my husband and his colleagues. They were on a high building but they didn’t have weapons in their hands.”
Other families have tales of shootings allegedly committed by Blackwater, which has since changed its name.
near the Iraqi Foreign Ministry in central Baghdad. He said: “Eyewitnesses told me that four white Blackwater cars went by her. Three were already past when the last one shot her in the head at close range and killed her. The eyewitnesses said they were very bewildered why they shot her. The bullet came from the driver’s window, which means that he got next to her when he shot her. The bullet entered from under the ear and left from the upper side of her skull. There were bits of her hair and skin on the car roof.”
Mr Walid remembers the Nisour Square shooting on September 16, 2007 — for Iraqis one of the blacker days of the US occupation. Claiming to have come under fire, Blackwater guards stopped in the middle of a large roundabout and began shooting in all directions.
“I left my car and ran away to hide in a petrol station, which was made of concrete. The shooting was so heavy it was like rain,” he said. “I saw lots of people getting shot. The driver who had been in front of me died and his wife fell out of the car. Her child was killed as well. The shooting went on for about ten minutes.”
Iraqis still find it hard to believe that companies such as Blackwater were given such free rein. Until the start of this year its employees were immune from prosecution in the country.
In another alleged incident involving the company, Ali Husamaldeen was walking in Wathba Square, central Baghdad, on September 9, 2007, when he was felled by a single gunshot. Passers-by reported a Blackwater helicopter overhead, from which they say the fatal shot was fired. According to his mother, Umm Ali, her son was unarmed and in no way a threat.
Leqaa al-Yaseen, an MP, said: “I believe the US authorities have the main responsibility for what happened because Blackwater came to Iraq with their permission. Regarding Blackwater smuggling weapons into Iraq, that suggests the US forces didn’t know about it at the time. But I think they did know.
“The tragedies that happened to our Iraqi people at Nisour Square and other places are not separate from the US forces in Iraq. The US Government is trying to avoid responsibility by blaming private companies.”
Officials in Baghdad have told The Times that they are continuing to investigate allegations similar to those made in the US against Blackwater.
Major-General Fathel al-Barwari, commander of the Iraqi Special Operations Forces, said he was gathering evidence of illegal weapons trading by the company. As a result, Blackwater could also face criminal prosecution in Iraq, where it is now banned, but other companies connected to Mr Prince still operate.
Tahseen Al-Shekhli, for the defence ministry in Baghdad, said: “If the allegations of illegally smuggling weapons into Iraq are proven, the Iraqi authorities will definitely take legal measures against this company.”Sunday Times today.
@stacyherbert @Giuseppe Bagodonutti
Just an idea:
Maybe a warmer Ocean can’t absorb as much CO2 but releases it into the atmosphere and a colder ocean can absorb more CO2 therefore phytoplankton likes cold water?
So phytoplankton warms up the cold water more while the warmer water contains less phytoplankton so can cool more which sounds like a self balancing system – if true.
@stacyherbert @Giuseppe Bagodonutti
If this NatGeo is right and ” …an increase in phytoplankton may actually cause the Earth to grow warmer” the oppsoite should happen now when “… 40% decline in the ocean’s phytoplankton” the earth should get cooler.
Oceans can absorb CO2 so that would serve the phytoplankton ” … phytoplankton obtains most of its carbon dioxide from the oceans, not the atmosphere”
But oceans also can give off CO2 but it isn’t clear with me when what happens?
Heres a good piece on neoliberalism and its origins
http://www.monbiot.com/archives/2007/08/28/how-did-we-get-into-this-mess/
found the link on a comments board in the guardian about baby boomers, who are of course becoming the latest scapegoats in the ongoing divide and rule tactics used by the wealthy.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2010/aug/22/baby-boomers-legacy-60-hutton?showallcomments=true#end-of-comments
Giuseppe, if it helps, this text is taken directly from the conclusions of the paper you refer to:
“Our analysis suggests that global Chl concentration has declined since the beginning of oceanographic measurements in the late 1800s. Multiple lines of evidence suggest that these changes are generally related to climatic and oceanographic variability and particularly to increasing SST over the past century (Fig. 6). The negative effects of SST on Chl trends are particularly pronounced in tropical and subtropical oceans, where increasing stratification limits nutrient supply. Regional climate variability can induce variation around these long-term trends (Fig. 4), and coastal processes such as land runoff may modify Chl trends in nearshore waters. The long-term global declines observed here are, however, unequivocal. These results provide a larger context for recently observed declines in remotely sensed Chl7, 10, 22, and are consistent with the hypothesis that increasing ocean warming is contributing to a restructuring of marine ecosystems36, 37, with implications for biogeochemical cycling15, fishery yields38 and ocean circulation3. Such consequences provide incentive for an enhanced in situ and space-borne observational basis to reduce uncertainties in future projections”
MIRROR MIRROR
Sorry i must admit i didn’t read all the posts and am a bit sketchy about reading them in general. Had no idea i was stealing your term – must have been a case of great minds think alike.lol!
WL have you ever cycled on a busy street (i’ve never driven due to being poor)? Breathing all those fumes feels awful!It cant be good! I’ve seen the skin peeling of my afore mentioned father due to severe allergies brought on by working abroad in severe chemical laden industrial environments. He came home to the land in a poor country to escape. (Less money more health). Those fumes dispersed into the environment can’t be good for anyone . People now don’t have to work in cigarette smoke because of passive smoking dangers. When i was young you’d go to people’s house and the air was filled with smoke-nobody thought it’d harm you, (my father didn’t smoke,reckoned it affected his sporting performance and gave up in 1930′s).
If pollution causes these hazardous images,posted previously, surely there must be lots of noxious by products in the atmosphere-including loads of different chemicals and noxious gasses. Whatever the truth of CO2 we have to clean up.
here’s some more info on how Gerald is (possibly) correct about WW 3 being within weeks or months.
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/world/2010-08/22/c_13455886.htm
@seosamhogallunai …. Global Warming etc., is the misleading term.
GLOBAL POLLUTION is the correct term.
Hey, that’s my line !
100% correct IMO.
If anyone actually read the Mann research and his “data cooking” methods and procedures, you would have seen that this is faux science.
BY BL AKE L E Y B. MCS HANE∗ AND AB R AHAM J . WY NE R†
Northwestern University∗ and the University of Pennsylvania†
Predicting historic temperatures based on tree rings, ice cores, and
other natural proxies is a difficult endeavor. The relationship between
proxies and temperature is weak and the number of proxies is far
larger than the number of target data points. Furthermore, the data
contain complex spatial and temporal dependence structures which
are not easily captured with simple models.
In this paper, we assess the reliability of such reconstructions and
their statistical significance against various null models. We find that
the proxies do not predict temperature significantly better than ran-
dom series generated independently of temperature. Furthermore, var-
ious model specifications that perform similarly at predicting tem-
perature produce extremely different historical backcasts. Finally, the
proxies seem unable to forecast the high levels of and sharp run-up in
temperature in the 1990s either in-sample or from contiguous holdout
blocks, thus casting doubt on their ability to predict such phenomena
if in fact they occurred several hundred years ago.
We propose our own reconstruction of Northern Hemisphere aver-
age annual land temperature over the last millenium, assess its relia-
bility, and compare it to those from the climate science literature. Our
model provides a similar reconstruction but has much wider standard
errors, reflecting the weak signal and large uncertainty encountered
in this setting.
6. Conclusion. Research on multi-proxy temperature reconstructions
of the earth’s temperature is now entering its second decade. While the
literature is large, there has been very little collaboration with universitylevel, professional statisticians (Wegman et al., 2006; Wegman, 2006). Our paper is an effort to apply some modern statistical methods to these problems.
While our results agree with the climate scientists findings in some
respects, our methods of estimating model uncertainty and accuracy are in
sharp disagreement.
On the one hand, we conclude unequivocally that the evidence for a
”long-handled” hockey stick (where the shaft of the hockey stick extends
to the year 1000 AD) is lacking in the data. The fundamental problem is
that there is a limited amount of proxy data which dates back to 1000 AD;
what is available is weakly predictive of global annual temperature. Our
backcasting methods, which track quite closely the methods applied most
recently in Mann (2008) to the same data, are unable to catch the sharp run
up in temperatures recorded in the 1990s, even in-sample.”
http://www.e-publications.org/ims/submission/index.php/AOAS/user/submissionFile/6695?confirm=63ebfddf
Economic Collapse – Peter Schiff – We “Probably” Won’t Make It To 2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pALwgXdLppM
Celente sounds more angry than usual.
@Stacinium
Thanx for that link…
I was able to track down an article from Dalhousie U related to that study via
http://dalnews.dal.ca/2010/07/28/photoplank.html
Which led me to the NATURE article link here:
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v466/n7306/full/nature09268.html
Unfortunately, I have no subscription or access to the actual study, but they do let you look at the supplementary info/images from the study here:
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v466/n7306/abs/nature09268.html#supplementary-information
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v466/n7306/fig_tab/nature09268_ft.html
Note the critique offered by Steve Short… he has some relevant points of contention… the other comment about “whale poop” is amusing.
However, I can offer a couple critiques of my own regarding the actual data set and the method of collection…
1) most of the data was collected post 1950 (with a preponderance of it from 1980-2000 in situ), so we can safely disregard the claims made before then…
2) the use of the Secchi disk is not exactly the most ideal method of analysis, yet I will concede it is better than just guessing. But again, there are limits in the ability to generate an accurate GLOBAL model from this.
Some questions that come to mind, for me, are:
1) considering the types of phytoplankton, what are the temperature ranges in which they survive and thrive?
2) If they increase surface temperature of the ocean, then how will their absence affect it?
as well, in figure S3 of the supp. info. , you may note the INCREASE of phytoplankton in the Northern Hemisphere…
very interesting, considering the temperature changes….
This subject DEFINITELY needs more research and perhaps with use of satellites, the next decade will bring more answers…
However, I wouldn’t draw conclusions on this from the headlines… So, in lieu of more data, I would not think it wise to form a definitive opinion on the matter…
@seosamhogallunai
Pollution is legit. Demonizing C02 via AGW is a scam. Max and Stacy refuse to separate the two issues.
Ask Max how much pollution was created in the mining of his gold holdings, has he paid reparations.
WL my father outlined all of what you mentioned in the second last post in 1983.
Global Warming etc., is the misleading term.
GLOBAL POLLUTION is the correct term.
A picture tell a hundred stories please look – http://webecoist.com/2010/05/01/trashed-planet-our-global-pollution-hangover/
or else walk down the street and look around you!
‘Yes, friends, governments in capitalist society are but committees of the rich to manage the affairs of the capitalist class.’ James Connolly (1868-1916). Author and union leader, .
Wake Up y’all! This quote is from 1915 .Irish Worker (socialist newspaper) 29 August, 1915.
@seosamhogallunai
Max Keiser has (previously) promoted global redistribution of wealth via climate debts.
Now research Eco Marxism… nuff said
It’s extremely interesting that self confessed Free market Capitalists and Moderates(i.e. Stacy and Max) are now banded Leftie and Marxist.
Marx, Lenin et al must be spinning like tops in their graves.
‘Four legs good- two legs bad’ or was it ‘two legs good- four legs bad!’
@WL
These are the best links ever great discusions… Awesome stuff… Globalists
Dennis L Cuddy PhD
Jerome R Corsi PhD
The History of the Council on Foreign Relations, the Globalist’s Agenda, a Global Currency, the Bil der bergers, and the Trilateral Commission
http://www.financialsensenewshour.com/broadcast/fsn2010-0821-1.mp3
G Edward Griffin
Bill Still
Founding of the Federal Reserve; How the Nation’s Money System Really Operates
http://www.financialsensenewshour.com/broadcast/fsn2010-0821-2.mp3
Cliff Kincaid
John F McManus
Media Bias; Globalist Agenda and What They Want to do to Achieve That Agenda
http://www.financialsensenewshour.com/broadcast/fsn2010-0821-3.mp3
@ all ,
Refreshing stuff.
Cheers
I think that since Iran already has pocket nukes there is an unofficial agreement between the parties that if Israel goes, Iran goes as well, along with Mecca and Medina being turned into burnt toast! Furthermore, these Jews have had enough of being shoved around by hypocritical western liberals. You want the Jews out of Israel? Great! Then start by giving the isle of Manhattan back to the Manhattan Indians [there's got to still be a few descendants left around]. You think that Manhattan is worth just a little bit more today than a hand full of beads? Hmm, Maybe? You’re entitled to your opinion, but then maybe the Jews also think that Israel is worth just a little bit more today than it was in 48.
Gerald is also correct in that most American Jews support Israel in every way; but, so too does a large number of fundamental, evangelical Christians– at least in my part of the world! Believe me, one sure way to get these fundamental, evangelical, Pentecostals on your case in a nano second is to suggest that it was wrong to move what was left of the Jews back into Israel in 48 — even though there weren’t many of them left in which to move, or even though those who did move were not in the best of condition in which to move [wonder why?], or even though there wasn’t much left for them to move from, or for them to move to for that matter!
Now of course sixty years later, thanks to their own hard work and the backing of the United States and others, Israel has become one of the apparent jewels of the region [along with having at least three hundred admitted nuclear warheads -- actually, it's probably closer to three thousand] so that the million or so Palestinians now want “their land” back by summarily evicting the six million or so Jews and returning “their land” to them. No matter how pitiful and logical their spokesmen whines about politically correct boycotts and how terrible the Jews are for isolating the mass of Palestinians in order to keep the suicide bombers out of their teenage discos, their hidden agenda is ALWAYS the same. The Jews must immediately leave the area forever or be killed [in fact the vast majority of the Palestinians believe that even if the Jews were to leave they should still be killed for what they have already done]!
You don’t want Iran to have nuclear weapons [good neither do I] but in order to be fair you must start by forcing Israel to give up theirs! In case you have been spending too much time watching “The View” , as Gerald suggested, the world has very rapidly become in the last two years a very, very, dangerous place in which to live! And, Iran is like a nuclear bomb with an inch long fuse with a President holding a lit cigarette lighter just dying to free his God! You think he is kidding? You think that the Wahhabi are kidding!
These Persians are not Arabs. This next war, which will be here within two years, IS NOT going to be a walk in the park! These guys have been around seven thousand years and are not going anywhere [well unless of course they are all vaporized] but if that happens the United States will feel the wrath of thousands upon thousands of terrorists most of whom were trained in Saudi Arabia. Remember the Saudi’s are our friend! Didn’t we just sell them thirty billion worth of F 15′s?
Ever wonder why Washington D.C. has built a duplicate governmental city underground? Just check out the Alex Jones site — even though admittedly Alex is sooooooo paranoid about absolutely everything he may just be right on this — maybe some of you guys know the truth I don’t.
As Bertrand Russell often said: “the only variable which separates the possible from the probable, and the probable from the actual, is time” And as I have often said: “time is running out – remember Prince and 1999!”
Well, enough from this old lawyer! It’s now Saturday night in Alabama and believe me there is no better place to be than along the red neck Riviera on the Gulf Coast on a hot Saturday night! Even though it’s 9o degree heat with 100 per cent humidity at 8:00 p. m. hundreds of gorgeous women in their itty bitty tinnie weanie bikinis, who haven’t gone within ten miles of the ocean all day will be flooding into the clubs i.e. the “FloraBama” shortly! As they say down here in Alabam: “It’s party time”! See yawl!
I’ve always said that you’ve got great guests……thanks again for your financial and political insight.
You and Alex Jones are terrific in ” pulling in your guests to support your agenda ” such as you tried with Celente on Global Warming/Climate Change and he side-stepped it tremendously with his response. I’d love to see you have on Lord Monckton in a debate ( not on ” On the Edge ” or ” Keiser Report ” though , as the debate to be fair to both parties should be 1 – 1 1/2 hrs long. If you would not debate Lord Monckton , I strongly suggest the expert Canadian Scientist , Tim Ball. Again Max…..I love what you and Stacy have put together as a honest , credible and critical analysis of world finance and politics , however; I disagree with the Global Warming B.S. ( ala “Carbon Tax / New World Order complete takeover ). Climate Change is OBVIOUS , as ……NOTHING is in a Constant ! Try the topic next time you’re on Alex’s show or when he’s on yours………..the Power Elite would love to see infighting….divide and conquer……..on second thought , don’t bring it up…..just agree to disagree !
Max and Stacy are ideologically and emotionally invested in Eco Marxism, they are not reasoned and have become intellectually bankrupt on this topic. WL
Not so. Both Stacy and Max have open minds. And who can blame them for being a little lefty since the fascists have screwed up again?
Max promotes the global redistribution of wealth via climate debt…
Problem,, Western Economies are broke (US dollars are trash right)
What will be used to pay all those debts.. labour, nah, sovereignty, yah, including individual sovereignty, Gold
Maxs gold. When the globalist come for your gold Max maybe you will clue in, but it’ll be too late.
Globalists Agenda (I have not listened to all of this yet, so ????)
http://www.financialsensenewshour.com/broadcast/fsn2010-0821-1.mp3
http://www.financialsensenewshour.com/broadcast/fsn2010-0821-2.mp3
http://www.financialsensenewshour.com/broadcast/fsn2010-0821-3.mp3
@area 52,
I still zombified, thanks. Here’s one I also loved.
Go now
@ stacyherbert
If you truly have concern for REAL environmental issues you may choose to visit this site and watch the : Featured Multimedia video.
http://www.friendsofscience.org/
@stacyherbert
I Owe I Owe Its off to work I go…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aURThUaRjCc
Max and Stacy are ideologically and emotionally invested in Eco Marxism, they are not reasoned and have become intellectually bankrupt on this topic. they are the DENIALISTS, they deny Natural Climate Change…
All of you are being USED,…..wake up!,..
@ WL
thanks for the URL……just tuned in for first time and found his : ABOUT extremely enlightening…….I wonder if Max and Stacy ever look at this side of the debate ?
http://www.appinsys.com/GlobalWarming/GW_About.htm
@Giuseppe – phytoplankton has decreased by 40% over the past 100 years: http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/climate-change/the-dead-sea-global-warming-blamed-for-40-per-cent-decline-in-the-oceans-phytoplankton-2038074.html
@WL – |-O
Ah Max the useful idiot for the Globalists….
AGW = false flag
Collusion with Government
http://www.appinsys.com/GlobalWarming/GlobalGovernance.htm
Collusion with Corporations Climate Industrial Complex, the global rentier…
http://www.appinsys.com/GlobalWarming/ClimateComplex.htm
When Government, Corporations and Science collude you get this AGW crap.
@Youri
This part of the NatGeo article you linked is worthy of note:
Research by Frouin and his Scripps Institution of Oceanography colleague Sam Iacobellis suggests an increase in phytoplankton may actually cause the Earth to grow warmer, due to increased solar absorption.
“Our simulations show that by increasing the phytoplankton abundance in the upper oceanic layer, sea surface temperature is increased, as well as air temperature,” Frouin said.
As Sarmiento notes, phytoplankton obtains most of its carbon dioxide from the oceans, not the atmosphere.
Yet that study was from 2002 and based on data from a limited time-scale…
None the less, I found an interesting book from 2005 (that cites the results of the study) that could be useful in one’s autodidactic efforts to understand the situation more…
Check out CHAPTER 2…
http://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=11175&page=R13
@ Mother Earth
I suppose for years you’ve studied the evidence from expert climatologists on both sides of the AGW debate and have made an informed unbiased decision to pass on to the rest of the populace with your expert analysis given in black and white !
@Youri
Of course thats true but my point was why didnt they do it 1 day ago, 1 week ago, 1 month ago, even 1 year ago? Something just doesnt add up, given the fact that Israel supposedly has the most powerful armed forces in the region.
Iran starts loading fuel in nuke power plant http://www.mumbaimirror.com/article/4/2010082220100822020656728833d5249/Iran-starts-loading-fuel-in-nuke-power-plant-.html
@Paddy
Not only that but Israel pas the deadline of bombing Iran whitout Nuclear Hazard TODAY! Iran begins fuelling nuclear power plant.
So an attack whitout nuclear fall out isn’t possible anymore and this could affect Israel itself and all other nations as well depending how the wind blows the Nuclear cloud around.
@Mother – Climate change is occurring and will continue to occur as the records show. CO2 is NOT the driver nor is it a pollutant or poison. CO2 was NEVER equated with “pollutant” until AGW politics. That term is a political label – not a scientific one. This is not to say that I am pro-energy in the current, truly polluting and devastating forms. I will NOT, however, stoop to using lies and untruth to gain (an otherwise) desirable end. The end has NEVER justified the means – that is a polluting LIE.
The “wealth” of a people depends on the degree to which they hold knowledge aligned with truth and the degree to which this knowledge is reflected in action. All else follows.
Maybe the Israelis simply can’t launch a strike. Not because they lack the conventional capabilities to do so but because they realise the geopolitical fallout would be extremely damaging to the state. Hezbollah apparently now have missiles that can penetrate deep into Israel. Iran itself has weapons capable of reaching them. The IDF has struggled on the ground in Lebanon since 2000 and appears unwilling to accept major casualties there and to a lesser extent in Gaza. Maybe there are things going on behind the scenes that we dont know about as yet, for example threats from Moscow if Bushehr and its Russian technicians are bombed.
@Giuseppe Bagodonutti
Indeedy a source of half earth’s Oxygen which gets little credit PLANKTON http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/06/0607_040607_phytoplankton.html
OIL BP killed a lot of Plankton so in effect cut our Oxygen supply. Basterds with thos poiseness chemical dispersant Corexit EC9500A and Corexit EC9527A http://www.csmonitor.com/Environment/2010/0527/BP-oil-spill-an-unexpected-laboratory-for-deep-sea-disaster
@kcb000
You stated that:
You don’t need to read the books or the watch you tube videos etc. Just see if you can follow this simple basic logic. You’re good at math it should be no problem:
mAx, unfortunately, is not the sharpest knife in the drawer when it comes to math, in case you didn’t notice his general deference to Stacinium in figuring out simple division for him…
That said, most people do not understand LOGARITHMIC graphs and the concept of SATURATION in chemistry…
That website you link to about the facts regarding CO2 seems to fall on deaf ears and blind eyes, since I have linked to it many times in the past already… I think only you, Youri, and myself have actually read it…
In the end, this whole “school-yard sandbox scrap” over AGW/CC is moot and futile… if people were really interested in a CO2 solution, then it is as simple as planting more GRASS (not marijuana), which is one of the most efficient plants by mass in utilizing CO2.
mAx is comfortable with his non sequitur stance on the subject, and will not change… so, there really is no point even engaging in the debate anymore, unless one is a cerebral masochist…
Then again, it sure seems to generate activity, doesn’t it?
Which brings up the subject of ratings…
But is it better to have quantity or quality in that case?
I’m inclined to support the latter…
ahhh the joy of NUMBERS….
anyone up for a game of Calculus?
Dutch Central Bureau for Satatistics (CBS) Lies about the Unemployment figures!!!!! (only Dutch) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsa33TdgyHg
The Netherlands has an Ubemployment of 12% – Not the low 5.7% procent mentioned by the CBS on 19 August 2010 (Only Dutch) http://www.cbs.nl/nl-NL/menu/themas/dossiers/conjunctuur/publicaties/artikelen/archief/2010/2010-055-pb.htm
Keiser and Celente. I’m in heaven. Nice to hear a great deal of truth and intelligence.
They need to end these IMMORAL, murderous WARS! I hate to see what is happening to America, but the majority of citizens are INSANE!! and follow these psychopath that control out government. This is ugly and will only get uglier.
Obama is on another vacation. Still he has time to destroy America on whim. Puppet. Taking orders. Doesn’t care who he kills or what he destroys, just like the presidents behind him.
top form max.
celente too…
There is really no reason for CO2 to come back out of the atmosphere except photosythetic plants, and even then this only affects a fraction. Mother Earth
CO2 is heavier than air so it tends to settle where plants can reach it.
@kcb000
Yes indeedy – CO2 Contributed by Human Activity: 12 to 15ppmv / version 1 Vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYLmLW4k4aI
The IPCC & Al Gore commited fraud (nothing new anymore) by shifting the CO2 data past the Temperature Data so that it looks like that the CO2 came in front of Earth’s Warming – NOT TRUE – CO2 ALWAYS COMES (some 800 Years) BEHIND EARTH’S WARMING UP!!!!
CO2 lags an average of about 800 years behind the temperature changes http://www.co2science.org/articles/V6/N26/EDIT.php
Comparison of Atmospheric Temperature with CO2 Over The Last 400,000 Years http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/last_400k_yrs.html
@kcb000
With respect for your calculations again, water vapour has a short life in the atmosphere. It makes no sense to assume it is all vapour form when you know clouds are undecooled water, and if it gets the chance ice. The driver is greenhouse gasses that persist, otherwise one winter would rain the skies dry and that would be it. Capiche?
@Larry
It’s not like climate change denying is a new art, it has been an ongoing battle since the 50′, every refutation can be found and the common tactics like ‘not again’,'this is getting boring’ and outright policy deciscions by Regean meant it was a hard subject to bring to the table. But CO2 is the main pollutant, Methane turns into CO2. The question is, can we believe in a wealthy society with renewables. If you think about it more than a second that is an absolute no brainer.
MAX I live in Amsterdam, I don’t drive a car, I live 4 meters BELOW sea level.I am happy to do as you say and embrace my inner CO2 EMITTER. I used to be WARMISTA just like you. I made my money building and selling passive solar off-grid houses in California. I sold out and moved to the EU, just like you.
You don’t need to read the books or the watch you tube videos etc. Just see if you can follow this simple basic logic. You’re good at math it should be no problem:
Atmospheric component percents:
Nitrogen ( 78%)
Oxygen ( 20%)
Water Vapor ( 1%-4% )
CO2 ( 0.039 % )
Other Gases ( < 2% )
( source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmosphere_of_Earth )
Relative Infrared Spectra Absorption rates:
Water Vapor 4.01
CO2 0.89
( Source: see Figure 3 http://brneurosci.org/co2.html )
Therefore the relative absorption between Water Vapor and CO2 is:
Water Low 0.01 x 4.01 = 0.0401
Water High 0.04 x 4.01 = 0.1604
CO2 0.0039 x 0.89 = 0.003471
Therefore in the Earth's atmosphere, water vapor absorbs between 40x and 180x MORE heat than CO2.
It's pretty simple: WATER dominates the equation NOT CO2
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P.S. My assets are in GOLD not crap dollars
P.S.S. Love the show even though you're such a stubborn WARMISTA !!!
P.S.S.S. Thanks for looking at this I'll STFU now about GW.
Iran’s nuclear plant humming away.
One major trend I haven’t heard Celente comment on is the increasing presence and power of women in government, media and business. A little known fact is that the country regarded as having the highest quality of life is also the country with the highest proportion of women in government, Norway. Coincidence? I don’t think so.
Great interview Guys – Thanks Much
BTW I think it is clear from Gerald’s response to your question, he does not believe in CO2 AGW – CO2 is not a poison or a pollutant and is not a driver in current climate changes and chaos that we are now experiencing. IMO this aligns him closer to the truth than you guys (Sorry, but this is my perception)
And do a search on Satellitegate for the latest disclosure of temp data manipulation by NOAA of its satellite data – very embarrassing!
Larry
@F. Beard
There is really no reason for CO2 to come back out of the atmosphere except photosythetic plants, and even then this only affects a fraction. The biosphere where plants can reach CO2 is very thin, above it is another few thousand meter of atmosphere. The bottom line is that the chemical parameters are very specific for our ecosystem, and some don’t self correct.
@dedo
Has it grown yet? It looked like a pixel error really..
He left out one little part about gold…
FDR – Executive Order 6102
I’m not a big fan of Gerald Celente, another ultra hyperbolist if you ask me but doomsday scenarios sell well of course. I shall watch the clips this evening, first i’m going to eat my dinner.
@ stacys
Whats a bot ????
lolololol
Hic
Gotta admit, THAT was entertaining.
Max…The Pusherman?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMqVrUSz62o
Max was a bit giddy, wasn’t he?
those without truth, die with dry tongues
Ohh Max you dope slinger you!
I gotta have my fix!
Hello my name is Fool,
And i’m an “it’s a mad mad world, give me some more” junkie.
So i can feel Special and say “i told you so!!”
Hmm ya got a ticket for that big wheel in space!!
Spandex jackets for everyone!!
@ronron – Stacy having an out of the body experience?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WANNqr-vcx0
Haha Monkeys still think they be gods or can become one!
Guessing along the way how illusions work.
Got to love it!
He! is Ringo out of hiding already?
Celentes take on mmgw sheds a little light into his inner workings me thinks. I once, or twice, or thrice perhaps heard him call for social meltdown that should be in mop-up stage by now, by a couple. Is Gerald a classic allarmist, or a neo-alarmist? Or just an oportunist. Whatever the case I’ll take 1 J. Williams to 20 G. Celentes any day of the week. Please world, no more blow hards…
you tell um Gerald!
@Stacy. bots?
I say give this Celente guy a baseball bat and see what he can do widt it (ya know what i mean?). He’d probably tear up the set and head out into da street and start swingin. It would be fun to watch. Next time he’s on the show, I say give”m a bat.
Wow, the bots are everywhere on youtube; I guess the thing about being programmed is that you have no free will upon hearing the trigger word or phrase
@Jayme. are you working on a new album? going to see eugene smith and john till tonight. would you like to say hi?
Gerald sez: No subsidies fo’ the po’ folks in Atlanta. It would be Kenesian.
@California Doctor
Honestly, Japan is fine! I live here, my wife is Japanese, and now my kid is “hafu.”
Japanese credit card companies don’t commit usury; the Japanese save for rainy days; the Japanese will bail out their country by buying more bonds and printing more cash; they hate China and Korea; they will suck up to the US until the very last drop; Honda and Toyota have come up with solutions for the aging population and population decrease already.
C’mon Gerald, tell us what you really thing – ya windbag!
Headlines NY Times:
http://www.nytimes.com/
@Tao Jonesing
Thanks, very kind of you. Nice moniker, BTW.
@knowbuddhau,
Calculated Risk is the best source for getting housing inventory info.
Here are some recent posts:
http://www.calculatedriskblog.com/2010/05/existing-home-sales-inventory-increases.html
http://www.calculatedriskblog.com/2009/08/shadow-inventory.html
Swedish prosecutors cancel Assange arrest warrant but he is still under investigation. One of the women says it started in both cases with voluntary sex and ended with rape when he could not take ‘no’ for an answer.
D’oh! I hates it when post prematurely. Please pardon my clumsiness.
The first quote, from Business Week, notes the difficulty of interpreting vacancy numbers.
The Mortgage Daily News report (third quote below) includes a table that breaks down the number of vacancies to fine detail, and it highlights the huge increase in “Other” properties.
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Something has happened to my brain, over the years: I don’t do numbers so well anymore. A little help?
Can anyone clarify these numbers and/or this trend? Where is Celente getting his 20M vacancies number? What’s up with the increase in “Other” housing units?
Re: Krugman,
I tend to believe that he actually believes in what he says, that he’s not a disingenuous shill (like Brad DeLong). Still, I think that the zero interest rate policy that he continues to advocate is wrong.
I’m curious about the 20M vacant homes claim. The number has been in the high 18′s since 08, hasn’t it? And even that number includes a lot of units that aren’t necessarily “houses,” like apartments and vacation/second homes.
Note that the Mortgage Daily News (third quote below)
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Something has happened to my brain, over the years: I don’t do numbers so well anymore. A little help?
Can anyone clarify these numbers and/or this trend? Where is Celente getting his 20M vacancies number? What’s up with the increase in “Other” housing units?
Record Number Of Americans Using Retirement Funds As Source Of Immediate Cash http://www.zerohedge.com/article/record-number-americans-using-retirement-funds-source-immediate-cash
Wow! Celente is great!
Failure Of Obama’s Pet ShoreBank Costs Taxpayers $368 Million, Which Immediately Goes To Goldman Sachs Among Others http://www.zerohedge.com/article/failure-obamas-pet-shorebank-costs-taxpayers-368-million-which-immediately-goes-goldman-sach
Eight Banks Seized, One with Ties to Obama; Regulators Allow “Unusual Bid” for Failed Bank http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2010/08/eight-banks-seized-one-with-ties-to.html
WE NEED MORE CO2 into the atmosphere to grow more food! Youri
Well said! And if people are concerned about human population growth then they should know that prosperity is the surest way to reduce it.
@Dedo – …do you like force mother,..does the power excite you !,…does it give you an erection?
@Mother
Yeah, maybe that turns you on Mother!? Maybe that’s how you get your kicks!? You and your “Good Time” buddies. Well I got a flash for ya “Joy Boy”, party time is over!
Blast!
I thought Is-real was going to attack Iran, Chicken Shits!
Its never been the same since they lost that bloke with an eye patch!
Mike
The stories I read on these sites have no impact on my life, not one iota,..
So I never take them seriously,…..
: )
@ stacy
yeah heard that too..something strange is going on there…
My disclaimer wasn’t,..I don’t care either way if mother gets an erection due to his power plays,….(just thought I’d set the record straight),….: )
I wouldn’t want folk to misinterpret my comments,….ah hum,..
@Mother,……You seem to be the only person on the planet who has a handle on this AGW/CC,… how come,… from where do you get your IN Form ation,…
Folk can be “made” to believe anything with enough repetition,.huh (Apparently the debate is over)
That’s science for ya !!
I’m just intrigued why so many folk either believe it or not,..why should they care, unless they are being forced to comply,…do you like force mother,..does the power excite you !,…does it give you an erection? : )
Disclaimer: I DO NOT CARE EITHER WAY
@Mark Lytle – well said.
CO2 IS NOT A POISON! On the contrary plants breath CO2 to create O2 (Not the Mobile Phone dumbass)
The earth had much higher CO2 levels 900 years AFTER the earth had warmed up and plants grew Bigger, Better and Faster! WE NEED MORE CO2 into the atmosphere to grow more food!
It seems like the real process of regeneration needed for the west, is the reconstruction of Social Capital as opposed to the Financial and Technical. Stated another way, a rebirth of values. If we were to collapse right now, the values are not there to sustain us in the crisis.
The ruling class wants to prolong the crisis (shear not slaughter, has been mentioned here) this may provide the time factor needed for people to get their act together….
But only after technological distractions become either inoperable or irrelevant..Technology, should be liberating, but marketing forces have tuned much of it to lowest common denominator functionality. Cell phones are a major menace in this way. Their ownership, based on price and features, feeds status positioning among the young, as does their appearance (part of one’s wardrobe). Endless texting is mindless and a sort of indulgence in petty vanity. Sending messages constantly implies importance of a conversation, even when there’s none.
Events have to transpire to break these patterns…
Gerald Celente – truely one of my favorite optimists. Great for adrenaline junkies… but I don’t think 300 million americans (or billions of people around the planet) can follow the same tactics of survival without calling it an all out war of I’ve got mine and you ain’t gonna get it.
There is not enough gold to preserve everyone’s wealth. Sure it’s price will go up but wealth preservation is just hoarding by another name. Those “on the inside” end up with everything and those scraping the earth to earn a living are left in the dust. There is something fundamentally wrong about the idea of “getting ahead” when it is at the expense of others or the ecology. If we don’t die in our own waste matter in the process, after all is said and done, there will still be haves and have nots; powerful and powerless. Then what – the blue pill of a transhuman post modern brave new world or a red pill of orwellian 1984 retro? What then? Where are the community leaders that will help us “little people” make decisions to transform that which is left into something other than a smelly pit of oozing tar sands, oceans filled with oil plumes and mountains with no peaks?
All this historical rhetoric isn’t going to make a scratch in the real problems facing humanity and life on earth but first things first. As the flight attendant says, make sure your own oxygen is flowing before helping your child ’cause a parent that isn’t breathing can’t help their child. An exciting ride indeed.
Another fine interview.
@Rottentrousers – “Japan is fine”.
My view is quite opposite. Japan is sunk until they come to terms with bankruptcy. They have no national defense, other than that mooched off the United States. Natural resources are scarce. Production is largely outsourced to other nations for parts.
The aging population in Japan further threatens things.
The people in Japan are not having children at the same rate as China. Therefore, China is the winner economically over this 100 years.
Japanese growth between 1880-1980 came from United States sources of power. After Reagan left office, the US administrations have increasingly treated Japan as a second-tier trading partner, largely due to the buy-out of Hillary Clinton through Walmart (i.e. China) and Bill Clinton through Loral (i.e. China).
Japan did not engage in foreign election manipulation or bribery of US federal officials. Instead, the Japanese bailed and ran (witness the number of Japanese banks versus Chinese banks on the West Coast of the United States).
@CO2 balance
Carbon Dioxide is consumed by some plant species in photo synthetic reactions. Included in this equation are seaplants like phytoplankton. Has anyone seen any data from the Gulf of Mexico regarding phytoplankton concentrations in the areas of the oil spill/plumes?
My view is that until proven otherwise and published by multiple labs/research teams, the Gulf of Mexico is off limits for food sources.
@Youri carma
Japan is fine. They have savers, a printing press, and foreigners from around the world that love their products.
What does the US have?
Answer: Hate, guns, bombs, shock TV, and massive amounts of dept.
Who wins?
@Youri RE: Japanese Population time bomb
The tax base of the United States is running about 10 years behind Japan.
I have had many conversations with community leaders in California about this demographic problem.
There were (past tense) two ways to correct this problem.
#1 – reduce gov’t expenditures. Unfortunately, the greed bastards in WashDC and Manhattan started 4 wars since the demographic problem was observed (desert storm 1+ 2, Somalia, Kosovo, and Afghanistan).
#2 – increase gov’t income. Unfortunately, the US gov’t gave TRILLIONS to criminals in WashDC and Manhattan who sank major US corporations and then sank the US financial system (both past tense).
Since the morons in federal and state government in the USA have utterly failed their nation-states, they have bankrupted all levels of government in the USA. The chasm between debt and income for government has grown so massive that it can not be jumped without draconian measures for the next 10-15 years.
So, now there are several pathways discussed to address the imbalance:
#1 – start US sales overseas to repatriate US dollars from abroad (GM, Ford, MSFT, CSCO all selling into China). The ultimate will be to see the US Federal Reserve Board giving up their gold to the Iranians, Russians, and Chinese.
#2 – start opening the borders to swell US population by 10,000,000 people immediately and get them paying taxes ASAP. That means qualifying illegal aliens for US citizenship, getting them jobs, and getting them into the homes. This is already occuring in California. Arizona has erected a state-legal barrier to halt the illegal conversion to legal status.
#3 – kill off the US citizens who are consuming US programs…i.e. pensioners, unemployed, etc. Hmmm… no comment.
Water vapour in the atmosphere has a life of a few weeks before it rains down. Carbon dioxide persists for hundreds if not thousands of years. Mother Oil
So any CO2 impulse injected into the atmosphere will take about 38 years to reduce itself to half the original value. from http://www.john-daly.com/carbon.htm
Also, CO2 is actively removed by plant life from the atmosphere for FOOD.
@kcb000
Water vapour in the atmosphere has a life of a few weeks before it rains down. Carbon dioxide persists for hundreds if not thousands of years.
The problem with emissions is that they move outside the reach of the biosphere. Like when you throw ink in a swimming pool and try to remove it only being able to reach the water from the sides. That will take a long time, and every ton represents a specific increase in the capacity of our atmosphere to absorb and retain solar heat.
It is all so personal for MMGW deniers. They are all so obsessed with immediate satisfaction, return, causation, explanation. So glad Monkton will tel then silly stories and use the plethora of conartist cliche’s to give the impression there is no urgency. By definition people in this kind of consumer psychosis, paternal dependency should not be challenged to much. Follow the advise in public announcements and be a good ‘perfect citizen’..
Swedish prosecutors cancel Assange arrest warrant: http://twitter.com/SkyNewsBreak/status/21756374749
This story is very dodgy
FUTURE TREND: COLLAPSE OF THE PENSION PONZI SCHEME
A growing number of retired and a declining population in the West can simply be read of the demographic charters. On top of that a growing number of Americans are cashing in their 401(k) plans! All ready a massive amount of Americans has no adequate pension savings. Most Pension funds are under capitalized.
Japan is an example but also the rest of the world, like Europe and China are facing this problem.
Japan is facing a population time bomb. A histogram illustrates Japan’s dilemma: http://runningofthebulls.typepad.com/.shared/image.html?/photos/uncategorized/2008/05/01/japan_demographics.gif
From: Japan is Doomed http://runningofthebulls.typepad.com/toros_running_of_the_bull/2008/05/japan-is-doomed.html
Cashing in 401(k) plans http://www.marketwatch.com/story/more-401k-savers-take-loans-withdrawals-2010-08-20
@Mark Lytle
Hello, your point is well taken, is hard to imagine were all the resources would come from to police the world.
The End Game no one knows what will be but I take comfort in believing that even the devil gives birth to an angel.
I bring this point of view,
look at all Latin America, in all honesty the working class and indigenous people have been oppressed for at least 500 years “Roman Style” and I’m sure it’s the same thing for many other parts of the world. My point is that you will be amazed of how much poop people will put up with when they are conquered if you care to venture and look at the slums of all Latin American cities.
The freek out factor in America today in my opinion is that the people are realizing that they have been conquered ” third world style”. will see how much poop the people can eat that is what I wanna know.
I know I can not eat too much poop at all. My electricity went off for 3 hours one day and I freeked out! I can’t imagine my sorry ass when the Keiser Prophecy comes!
I get the Trend Journal and love Mr. Celente.
The Earth is quite dangerous,
the Universe too;
for many dangers
there’s nothing to do
(if there’s no God
we’re simply screwed).
But with CO2
it’s simple indeed,
no burning of carbon
and please do not breath.
The fact that a chaotic situation rather than a police state seems most likely, is to me hopeful, in that the progenitors of a better world may have the opportunity of the little mammals scurrying around the corpses of dead dinosaurs at the end of the Cretaceous period. The world was difficult and challenging, but wide open once again.
Celente would have no problem ordering coffee in a noisy coffee shop.
I like Celente for what he is: an entertainer! He speaks his mind and he’s got a little bravado because he has studied a hand2hand combat art. Respect!
But, I don’t like his predictions–always the same non-sense.
Yes, current trends have unintended consequences; the past is worth analyzing; but at the end of the day, it’s always better to expect the unexpected….
The important work by our hosts here, Celente, Alex Jones, and a host of others is to produce the self-aware seeds so that when order reemerges out of chaos, it has half a chance of being more benign..
Greg Palast Confronts WTO Director-General
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKqJmEPuBgc&feature=player_embedded
Seriously they should Ask All Congressmen to enlist as Did Micheal Moore
in Farenhite 911
Far and away my favorite guest, even though it always feels like a bad pill to swallow. I shutting off my t.v. and planting a garden!
In a lot of ways, post collapse states of empires can be thought of as states of greatly increased entropy. Probably the more aspects of the civilization that exhibited too much complexity or too much manipulation, the more radical and higher the final entropic state is…
If the world was about to blow up, it would feel so much better to hear if from Celente lol.
Krugman, ‘The Princeton Hack’, now has an exclusive column at Truthout.
The Deadline of bombing Iran whitout Nuclear Hazard ended today! Iran begins fuelling nuclear power plant.
This shows us that the elite is, literally, deadly serious about whiping out 80% of the world population. Also the H1N1 virus has been added to the seasonal flu Injections. U.S. water is poisned with fluor and they are no talking about adding an other poison to the water Lithium.There’s poison added to the food like aspartaam.
we have a hung parliament here in oz,
thats good, less messing with things.
dollar down here come monday, shares i dunno gold up.
in oz anyhow.
@Tritone
I know Alex Jones is calling for a police state as the endgame. I am thinking the resources won’t be there to do that. I think most empires, post collapse, are pretty chaotic, not ordered. Nazi Germany produced Hitler out of chaos, but chaos came first, and wrecked many existing institutions. Hitler was a reaction to Chaos. Something similar could happen here but it could be regional, I.e. splintering of U.S. after collapse…
The man from the Bronx and the man that grew up in the New York,
Maybe they threw rocks at each other when growing up.
Wow! this guy is a fighter not a lover! very satisfying, I felt like I came out of a brawl after the interview. Awesome feeling! I got to go practice my ” upper cut” and “jab”.
There is a relationship between the ” Military Industrial Complex” and the “utility value of the US dollar” I’m not sure who knows what it is but it seems the relationship is directly in proportional.
My point is that if the dollar collapses “what will the MIC do ? it seems impossible for this to occur to me. To me the devaluation of the US dollar is more reasonable scenario. This historically has happen in many Countries.
The USA ECONOMY is policing the ” World” with ” Real Guns”. THis is a very advantages position economically in my opinion.
If the dollar collapses my guess is that the MIC would come down on all the
citizens of all Countries. THe globe would become a ” POLICE STATE”
Max&Stacey come on ! vacations are boring help me out on this topic
The imagination of the ” MAX BRAIN” is needed please help thanks.
The U.S. Quarterly 0.6% GDP growth shows the dead cat’s stimulus bump has worn out. You don’t have to be a rocket scientist to figure that one out. All from now is to pretend and extend, kick the can down the road as far as you can and if you finaly can’t make it, just fake It!
- Jobless Claims in U.S. Rose to Highest Since November
- “U.S. Is Bankrupt and We Don’t Even Know It”: Laurence Kotlikoff
- “US economy ‘on the road to deflation’ ” Pimco boss El-Erian
- 118 U.S. banks have failed now in 2010
- OECD leading indicators signal recovery peaking – Fed set to downgrade outlook for US
HOUSING: EXTEND AND PRETEND: The Obama Administration’s Failed Foreclosure Program
- Fannie taps Treasury again after quarterly loss – House prices may fall during rest of 2010 and into 2011, mortgage giant says
- The Fed this week reinstated its program of purchasing Treasuries as Economic Recovery Falters
- Mortgage rates continue to fall – 30-year fixed-rate mortgage lowest since 1971
btw Fannie is used as a slushfund buying up garbage http://market-ticker.org/archives/2598-Are-Banks-Selling-WORTHLESS-Loans-to-Fannie.html
The editorial is by Robert Wright, and the title is :
Why not to bomb Iran
http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/08/17/why-not-to-bomb-iran/
I see Celente is still calling for war. I should listen again to see if that was still war with Iran.
He has a good track record, he could be right,
Nonetheless, I made an educated guess yesterday, maybe the Banking community would oppose it, even though AIPAC, and the oil industry might be for it,
I see the NYT this morning (which is day ’0′ of the reactor start up at Bushehr), has an editorial claiming that an attack on Iran is counterproductive or even Irrational. It references the Atlantic article by Jeffrey Golberg as a propaganda piece.
To the extent that the NYT is a mouthpiece for the establishment, and this appears in print on the day of the reactor startup, well that’s
interesting…
kcb000
you don’t have to live in denial anymore
you are free to embrace the truth
man made CCGW is ripping the globe apart and causing hundreds of billions in damages that YOU are going to pay for one way or another.
. . . the longer you wait, the more expensive it will be.
and . . .
Mother nature not interested in your crap US dollars.
hehehe ~ thanks Max
Yes, nice interview though I was disappointed that Mr. Celente thinks CO2 is a “chemical”, meaning pollutant, rather than the exhaust of animals and food for plants.
MAX global warming is DOMINATED by water vapor NOT CO2. It absorbs far more and there is 10,000 times as much Water per unit volume in the atmosphere. Why are you agreeing with Al ( Carbon-Credit-Scam) Gore?
You’re SMART check it for yourself.
Urinal
did you delete the geithner doco?
WikiLeaks head accused of rape in Sweden
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/world/7948903/wikileaks-head-wanted-in-sweden-for-rape
Another home run. Gerald pulls no punches and is spot on!
fucking snooky stupid. too much. hahaha. yikes.
Sorry to be off topic.. but a summary of the Australian election
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQ_s6V1Kv6A
“The scale could happen over time”
‘time’ in this case = opportunity loss
this is scaling right now
now is now.
‘time’ is later.
Snooky Stupid ! AHAHAHAHAHABrilliant
mother
everything relating to the site in on the ‘how it works’ page.
I update that page every week or so as more features are rolled out.
i believe all your questions will be answered over the next few weeks.
Great show. Gerald was eloquent as always.
@maxkeiser
I agree with Mother Earth. It would be helpful if you did a presentation detailing how PMF works.
@Max
The scale could happen over time with listing for higher and higher amounts as popularity grows, people realise its likely to get higher amounts of funding, it would happen organicly overtime a type of price discovery so to speak.
My experience has been I purchased shares ages ago now , I forgot what film it was and its just sort of out of my mind now, maybe I receive an email reminder? will I be about then? will I still have the funds? Will I still have interest in the film? so on.
Fixed price will also keep the listings fresh and new, with a limited listing period say 6 months.
We need some pirate my games and pirate my music, especially games and apps would help promote opensource operating systems. Could do things like a minimum $25 share and you are guaranteed a copy of the game/app/album/film as well as any dividend
a n d
it would be nice if one could add links to the blog posts..
@maxkeiser
Thanks for the response, If you take it as a question, what would the answer be? My understanding of the PMF financial side is limited to this;
1. Shareholders and PMF reserve shares
2. On 100% buyin the reservation is cashed out (how?)
3. The film is made
4. The producer makes sure he gathers add revenue (himself?)
5. Those revenues he is supposed to distribute amongst the shareholders
(how?)
I would expect there to be a paypal/iban bank number section. in the membership registration process or once someone reserves shares. I would like to see a 10 minute video taking me throught the financial side of PMF..
Dan
that would kill the ability to scale this market.
traffic is up 2000% in last week
that can be monitized to the user’s benefit
escrow funds would mean traffic death.
Bit off topic but with regards to pirate my film just a suggestion but I think it would be more efficient if you take payment immediately and hold the funds in an escrow account similar to how microloans are financed.
mother
is that a question or a comment?
celente is a good guy…hes got class………….pg
Man
PMF : The producer takes full responsibility for paying out dividends to shareholders and the PMF Fund. That’s complicated. That is what I would expect PMF to do for me.