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Cohen v. Facebook, filed in LA County, case number BC444483
According to the law suit, the 2009 revenue generated by Facebook was nearly one billion dollars! All that with nearly no over head and no COGS
Facebook software algorithms were created to market data, (and prevent the end-user from taking advantage of that market data)
Unbelievable NPR Story! FED
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@chArles @tao
You are right, all other animals are hunter gatherers except us!
I have developed a great admiration for john harris. he too, latley, is talking about the ego and its effects on our behaviour. He is btw also a carpenter
also I hope it goes without saying I find the concept of Government forced Modernization vulgar
@ Mae
thanks for link,
curious as to what the impact of this will be
“In the 1990s, a portion of the population switched to livestock farming as a result of government-mandated modernization programs, as well as the increased risks of a hunting and gathering lifestyle in the face of technological development.”
as how this will alter their traditional culture (i.e. ideas, values, belief), because I do believe, this step in human history,(moving from quasi nomadic hunter gathers to agrarian economies) altered us drastically with our engagement with the world….20 years isn’t enough time INMHO but I would be curious as to any socialogical data that is being currently developed
@chArles @tao
san bushmen are very interesting in this regard
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bushmen
@ Tao
I to have enjoyed this, got me through my day at the Giant Orange Box (maybe that explains, the briefness of replies and spelling errors/typoes)
this
“That being said, raising two girls who had completely opposite personalities at birth has convinced me that there are real and meaningful differences between people at birth”
I find this absolutely fascinating, because it does put the old kabosh on my pure Enviromental Psych belief…for a long time I was of a quasi Lockean belief in psychological make up…meaning Tabula Rosa (Clean Slate) everything has to be imput via engagement with the world…on dark days was of the Humean varity believing personality or even to speak of the “I” was ludicrious because it is a multitude creature eternal changing…I am less certian of this but worried to give it up entirely because it is a very big hammer to lend to people who wish to smash equality/egalitarinism
I’ve mentioned earlier in a different post some where that the head of the Cognative Department of Psychology brought me into his research project as ” the Bastard in the Room” meaning the high skeptic of Evolutionary Psychology and Biological Psych and life in general, (the Catholic Church employs a group of Jesuits who are called Devil’s Advocates to shoot down sainthoods) that was sorta my role on his project of a “Cognaive Founding of Ethics” two years and we couldn’t test anything (yes I am rambling missing intellectual stimualtion and being in the game)
what raises this ramble besides to much Red Bull
@ I believe that the primary driver of differences between individuals is how they perceive and deal with uncertainty, and that is governed primarily by their individual dopamine systems.
I’ve argued this seven different ways in my little life…and still am uncertain if it is the stimuli that is governing the effect or the effect governing the stimuli…I wish to give dominance to the stimuli which is producing the effect (meaning raises or lowering of Dopamine or Seratonine for that matter) which feedbacks upon the perception…my Ex would tell me she wouldn’t expect anything else from a childhood mArxist…
I agree it is a slow change of nudging the possible to the expected though…Was a pleasure today
@chArles,
First, I’m greatly enjoying the discussion.
“I agree with this because this is the dominant narrative of our current society, it is maintained in my opinion by a concerted effort because it benifits a segement of society also intellectual laziness is a factor….that is why as I got older I became more of a cultural revolutionary type, believing political and economic revolutions would falter without addressing this problem of the dominant narrative in this current society ”
I agree that there is a dominant narrative that is exploited by one segment of society to benefit itself, but that narrative does not offer a third way that recognizes that there can be no winner in the debate, that both “sides” have only a piece of the truth, that the whole truth is greater than the sum of its parts. By constantly framing things as left v. right, conservative v. liberal, individualist v. collectivist, etc. that segment of society creates conflicts that distract us all from from seeing the world for what it is and what we can make it.
That being said, raising two girls who had completely opposite personalities at birth has convinced me that there are real and meaningful differences between people at birth, differences that can be influenced by how they’re raised but never completely erased. I believe that the primary driver of differences between individuals is how they perceive and deal with uncertainty, and that is governed primarily by their individual dopamine systems.
As I’ve gotten older I’ve become less of a revolutionary and more of an evolutionary. I believe that the only way a lasting social revolution can be achieved is through something that seems evolutionary, a minor change to the familiar. Human beings are constantly comparing what they see to what they expect, and the farther away something is from what they expect, the more likely they are to reject it (this is the dopamine system at work). The closer something new is to what is expected, the more easily it is accepted, even if it is completely new (this is my explanation of memes).
At the end of the day, I think we both reject the dominant narrative and seek real change. There is something very wrong in the world today.
Then again, maybe the world has always been this way. Maybe I’m only awakening to this reality because I’m living through what history will judge as the collapse of the American empire.
No wonder I’m torn between wanting to make the world a better place on the one hand, and wanting to be left the hell alone on the other.
@ Tao
“Collectivism and individualism are both too much a part of how we think and interact to ever be successfully purged from human existence.”
I agree with this (excluding the absolutiness in ending), because this is the dominant narrative of our current society, it is maintained in my opinion by a concerted effort because it benifits a segement of society also intellectual laziness is a factor….that is why as I got older I became more of a cultural revolutionary type, believing political and economic revolutions would falter without addressing this problem of the dominant narrative in this current society
I am in Zinn’s catagory of I think it is more revealing about the “individual” saying X than the actual statement of X
@chArles,
I just read some of what Zinn had to say on “human nature,” and I agree with him while at the same time maintaining my position.
The way I tend to express Zinn’s observation is as follows:
There are basically three types of people. Those who believe humanity is inherently good, those who believe humanity is inherently evil, and those who believe that what a person believes about the inherent nature of humanity says far more about what the person believes of himself than it does about humanity.
Collectivism and individualism are both too much a part of how we think and interact to ever be successfully purged from human existence. There will always be people who believe mankind is inherently evil because they think they themselves are evil (e.g., selfish), just as there will always be people who believe mankind is inherently good because they think they themselves are good (e.g., altruistic). The real question is how to create a society that successfully balances collectivism and individualism.
@ Tao
“I’m simply saying that human beings are animals that display both “individualism” and “collectivism” from birth. Any society that attempts to completely eliminate either trait will fail, most likely in a spectacularly horrible way.”
the animal upon birth has no conception of individuality, it is incapable of differintiating itself and the world, if one could rember this time or question the animal it would not have a conception of I, but exist entirely as “Is” or being…only as it acts in the world and begins to grasp its limitations, pressing against its crib or screaming for mommie to no avail it is shown the folly of solpolism….my contention is the enviroment the beast finds itself in will form its self serving or communal nature….most current psychological research on ethics and morals amougst children indicate they seem to be ammoral things…the child will go through out the whole world and delinate everything as “Mine” and is conditioned against this behavior pattern by other’s whom’s will it can’t act upon or the world itself will smack it in the face….
so to return to saying people are selfish ahhh fudge it, guess we can’t do better or offer an alternative…because thats the way it is and to think otherwise is to be foolish or invite gulags I do not buy the arguement. I’m not a nice libreal like good ole Rawls, who gonna make peace with the devil in hopes I can harness its energy to increase my material abundance to then piecemeal out in order to damper the inequities the devil demands…nope not I
(also bear in mind this is a bar room arguement or classroom fight not me at a lecturn trying to deal with the possible, which would yeild different points)
I am not saying that a mutual aid co operative society based on mutual argreements is possible, I even maintain fervantely that my systems can not grant one the same levels of complexity the current system does, I’m stating the current system is vile, capitolism is vile, the core foundation principle is repelant and leads to the current folly and you can’t prevent it from cascading into misey for the great multitude with no amount of tinkering
@ tao and @chArles
I really enjoyed your conversation!
@chArles,
“the concept of “Human nature” does not exist”
I use the term “human nature” for lack of a better alternative. While I haven’t read Zinn’s work on this point, I do not believe that I’m engaging in the kind of exercise that you describe.
I’m simply saying that human beings are animals that display both “individualism” and “collectivism” from birth. Any society that attempts to completely eliminate either trait will fail, most likely in a spectacularly horrible way. This isn’t about genes or memes, its about how our brains work and the diversity of human existence.
Another way to think about it is that I am not using the term “human nature” to refer to a static, immutable thing. Rather, I am using it to refer to a dynamic process driven by how human beings interact and decide as individuals and groups. At any given moment, the outcome of that process cannot be predicted. History is no guide, and empirical data are of no use.
@ “I’m not partial to the dog. I just think the property imperative is part of human nature…”
please don’t take my word usage as a slight was being poetic there…but you and I fundmentally disagree here….the concept of “Human nature” does not exist…it is a contrivence that even the best of minds fall pray to..read the letters between Frued and Einstien at the onset of the 2nd world war…Howard Zinn uses these collection of corraspondence to make the point that all one can do is bring Empirical data to the table and then proclaim HUMAN NATURE IS X…well the empirical/historical data isn’t that strong and is Cherry picked by the advocate of whatever X position is
read Kroptkin’s Mutual Aid and one get’s a picture of human nature that I may find comforting while reading Hubert Spencer and one finds a concept that is comforting to those running around screaming about the Selfish Gene…which can no more be proven than a benevolet or Religious Gene
“Does the Copyright belong to Flickr .. or the person that uploaded them ?”
The person or company that uploaded them. You can change the copyright setting on flickr but that is set to – all rights reserved
@chArles,
“you seem you want the dog in a muzzle because you have grown partial to it…I state the dog is rabid,”
I’m not partial to the dog. I just think the property imperative is part of human nature and any attempt to excise it (1) would not work and (2) would ultimately dehumanize us as individuals and as a society in much the same way that neoliberalism’s attempt to excise the social imperative is doing.
I’d rather accept the faults of the human condition and manage the tensions they cause than make things worse by denying the practical reality that those faults exist and cannot be purged. It is through those tensions that we evolve and grow.
@ As in starvation. I believe the Pilgrims experimented with a form of communalism but had to abandon it.
this is a nice talking point of a certian segment of the christian right…it is false….research it further and look who has advocated it and what their research was…it falls flat….besides its dubious nature it is a false analogy a group of people entering into a system of mutual aid in a forign land would naturally be problomatic…and failure could no more be pin pointed to their cooperative efforts than their lack of knowledge of the land
@MirrorMirror,
My guess is that the copyright for the photos on Flickr will be owned by the person who owns the account to which they are posted. The answer will be in the Flickr user’s license, which you can probably get by signing up to your own account.
It does look like Flickr offers license brokerage services. Check out this link, which was on one of the pages you sent me (next to a copyright symbol):
http://www.flickr.com/help/general/#147
@Talcott,
I’m not saying that all forms of capitalism display a property fetish. I’m focused primarily on the American version of it, which has been perverted by 30+ years of neoliberal ranting that there is no society, that there is only a collection of individuals who own and voluntarily exchange property. The value of a person is based entirely on the value of his stuff, not on what he does within a broader context of the social and actual environment. That’s what I mean by “property fetish.”
DEFINE “FAILED”? chArles
As in starvation. I believe the Pilgrims experimented with a form of communalism but had to abandon it.
Charles,
I have no problem with voluntary communes. A truly libertarian society would permit all kinds of voluntary experiments.
@ F. Beard
DEFINE “FAILED”? communal propertiless societies have histories that stretch in the hundreds if not thousands of years…and I am not just representing our nomadic grandmas…I am talking cultures and socities with permenant structures
@ Tao Jonesing
there is nothing wrong with a good ole fashioned arguement, which can be an educational experience…most of my comments here are sparked from boredom…I have no hostility towards any of my interlocators….but will admit grow weary of parrots…anyone can copy and paste in this age…true intellect is a systhesis
but on to your point…the injuncture for property identified by prohibitions against theft I would argue are more Judaic than Christian, I maintain that Jesus represented a drastic parigdigm shift in early bronze/iron age mans thinking process as our agrarian lifestyle offered more stability…also this form of economy where large stretches were plowed under demanded greater labor expenditures therefore altering the interpersonal relation most people encountered…this drastically changing enviroment is what the carpenter walked into…and his message was an extreme form of egalitarinism and selfless behavior…just read ACTs and one get’s a picture of early christian communities…whatever one wishes to call these communities the last thing they were was capitolist in nature
I do maintain that the core principle of Capitolism is incompatable with any strain of ethics…the priciple of self enrichment can not…. no matter the number of intellectual hurdles be made compatible with treating others as an ends base which is what any humane ethics demand…self enrichment (merit or force is not relevent how this is to be accomplished) is it’s foundational principle, and that priciple is the bane of civil society
you seem you want the dog in a muzzle because you have grown partial to it…I state the dog is rabid,
@Talcott,
Yep. The early Christian believers in Jerusalem practiced a form of communalism but It seems like Paul was always collecting money for them. Other Christian attempts with shared property failed too.
@Tao Jonesing
I agree that Capitalism is for a significant part aharmonious with Christianity. However saying it has a property ‘fetish’ may strike extremity. I would name an economic system withing a group of Yeshua’s followers(if they have integrity) as ‘communityism”. Act’s gives a vignette of the early church which illustrates that.
Acts 2:44 All the believers were together and had everything in common. 45Selling their possessions and goods, they gave to anyone as he had need.
@stacy
We’re on GMT, and Keiser Report comes on at 10:30pm. 10pm would be better timing, particularly for my wife. Also by running at 10:30 you’re actually in competition with BBC2 Newsnight.
@chArles,
Thanks for the additional background and context for your statement. I’m more interested in having a conversation than joining in an argument. It makes it easier to learn.
The property fetish is central to Christianity and Judaism (no coveting or stealing), but it is tempered by other imperatives. I can envision a version of capitalism that is tempered by similar imperatives and thus is fully consistent Christianity. I agree that the modern, sociopathic version of capitalism is unethical and inconsistent with Christianity.
There was a time when people of good conscience recognized the conflict between Christianity and capitalism. Adam Smith certainly did. The neoliberals set out to strip capitalism of conscience, and ironically they did so by interpreting Smith’s invisible hand metaphor to mean the opposite of what Smith meant.
Come on Max, you used to tell the truth without the white wash but maybe you’ve been co-opted my the MSM here. When you say Fox can’t compete on any level playing field did you not check the cable ratings from 5p-10p? I think you didn’t or you’d see that they beat ALL other news networks COMBINED!
I have much more respect for you when you tell it like it is, we get ENOUGH white wash BS already here in the states from the MSM, go back to telling it like it is, the truth!
@ Tao Jonesing
my arguement was originally against Beard….who for whatever reason demands this hyper religiousity but fails to see that his/hers other core faith “Capitolism” is at odds…with that very concept you mentioned of “MINE” that is an anathma to Christianity in any forn other than a bastardization of the faith…he/she should be quite familiar with this…to enrich oneself of the sweat of your brother is vile…to declare ownership of anything in face of need (which is eternally present) is damnable…read Doestesky’s parable of the “onion” contained in the Brother’s Karamosov
I will also state Capitolism violates not just Christian Monotheism but all dominant strains of Monotheisim at is foundational principle of self enrichment it violates both Islamic and Judeaic conception of ethics…and any rational based system ala Kantian
this is not stated in this society, wonder why?
Facebook worth $33 dollars ahead of IPO – Well done everyone you just got sharecropped.
@in the end,
Happy to correspond the old-fashioned way. My gmail is taojonesing.
@chArles,
Ah, I think I see where you are coming from.
Capitalism’s weak point is the property fetish that underlies and drives it. Libertarians argue that property rights arise from natural law, but a more rigorous analysis leads to the conclusion that the recognition of property rights is the first act of violence against nature (i.e., exploitation).
The problem is that the need to claim things as property is so ingrained that it manifests itself while we are infants (mine!). In that sense, the property imperative is not cultural but human, and, therefore, humanity is naturally exploitative. Capitalism is the result of humanity’s exploitive nature, not the cause of it.
@davem – ha ha, your wife sounds awesome!! what time zone are you on?
Boy he was an exciting chap wasn’t he?
@ CAPITOLISM IS EXPLO”TA”T”"IO”N
sorry brief comment…off to work..Capitolism is explotaive no matter if there is a government or a rentier classs or however y’all want to fudge it…Capitolism states that I as the owner of X, whatever that is an idea or a machine or a mine or a farm am entitled to more of the proceeds that labor produces from said things…or if I don’t employ folks just sellig any item, I demand that it be sold at more than just cost…that is explotation, you can fudge it all you like, talk of LIBERTY, FREE AGENTS but…it don’t pass Ethics 101 let alone BEards great sky G-d test.
its explotation…whether this is good or bad is for each individual to decide…and to all the Libertarians who are screaming now…Taxes are Theft happy now?…I can live with that
Facebook is an Alienation machine. It offers a formatted hyperreality in lieu of a world diminishing in human value.
One could say the same of Google and its relation to knowledge.
Ineptire est juris gentium.
@Mirror Mirror.
Good copyright question.
I just signed a form giving a production permission to use my footage that we shot last week.
5 Multi-Camera positions.
I’ve never thought of it as my footage as I get paid for it.
However, I have had reason to hold onto footage until paid from foreign companies as I have been burn’t before.
Hi Max and stacy
Loved the show – watched it on RT last night at 10:30pm. Somehow it’s nicer watching on TV rather than my PC – the shared experience thing maybe. You’re so articulate and it’s a joy to hear you say things that no other TV show has the guts to say. I’ve been trying to get my wife to watch with me, as I want her to hear your words of wisdom, but she falls into a deep sleep every time half way through. Can you get RT to move the program to an earlier slot? I think you’re missing the big audiences by showing so late.
@Tao Jonesing
Have an idea: I would like to see if I can carry a conversation with you, outside this site. I don’t know your level of interest but I think this gives you full control (in case you are concerned about privacy or controls): I opened a yahoo email account with the name “exchangevenue” with pass of “exchange123″.
If you are not interested in any way, let me know. If you have a better idea, let me know.
Thanks
Photos copyrighted ? …
http://www.flickr.com/photos/kansashorizons/4925068591
http://www.flickr.com/photos/kansashorizons/4925696264
Does the Copyright belong to Flickr .. or the person that uploaded them ?
Anyone ?
@chArles,
I tracked you down as the originator of the quote that beardy responded to in comment #201, and I have a couple of observations.
First, capitalism need not be a system of exploitation but is, at a very minimum a system of symbiosis.
Second, the exploitive nature of capitalism seems to depend entirely on the extent to which rentiers rule the system. Rentiers by nature exploit, and when rentiers rule, as they do right now, the capitalist system goes from a complementary symbiosis to a parasitism that kills the host.
Third, most schools of economics (including the neoclassical Keynesian synthesis, Chicago and Austrian) pretend that capitalism is divided between capital and labor and entirely ignore rentiers. That’s the real threat that Keynes presented: true to the classical liberal ideal, he called out rentiers as the true threat to capitalism and sought to hold them in check.
I fervently believe that the primary reason that FDR succeeded with the New Deal is that both capital and labor realized for the first time that they were both threatened by the rentiers (i.e., the FIRE sector). In many ways, FDR showed a remarkably light hand, especially in his approach to the industrial monopolies that the FIRE sector had formed to control the U.S. economy (he didn’t break them up but installed labor monopolies as a check).
Fourth, accepting a vector that pushes us towards the Austrian School, which represents rentier purism, would be a very bad mistake, primarily because capitalism would become precisely what you say it is (but need not be).
Finally, in closing, my experience is that exploitation is entirely in the eyes of the beholder. Different people have different skills and different ambitions, but most people tend to avoid leadership positions, at least in my experience. The vast majority of people would prefer to follow because leading is hard. Whether the relationship between leaders and followers is exploitave depends entirely on the extent to which the leader feels he/she serves those who follow. I’ll grant you that, in the present neoliberal-tainted environment, most leaders could give a crap (see, e.g., Obama), but there are exceptions around which to build a new paradigm.
To have a chance, we just need to prevent the rentiers from doing harm and controlling things, as they do now.
“We’ve already bailed out everyone. There is no more money …” from http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SciH1Ug4pGY via Mirror^2
Wrong and wrong. The victims have NOT been bailed out and the money supply is limitless since we (the US) issue our own currency.
Max make LewRockwell.com:
Draining the Treasury With Wars and Foreign Entanglements
It’s still one of my favorite sites though I am post-Austrian.
oh, well
(two hundred and) First!
Benefits of being West Coast USA.
chose your G-d F. Beard Mammon or Jesus not gonna have both…Capitolism is a system of explotation no matter how you fudge it… chArles
I suppose that depends on how one defines “capitalism”. I don’t define it to mean a system with a government backed banking cartel. That is the key to the exploitation, imo. My definition of capitalism is economic liberty, not being forced by the IRS into using FRNs or else.
It is the blessing of the LORD that makes rich, and He adds no sorrow to it. Proverbs 10:22
200?
… We are now officially in the early phase of the next Great Depression. Thank the Fed and our Government for bringing us here….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SciH1Ug4pGY
@Alistair
Re: Charles Nenner.
The last interview on his website with Maria B in mid July suggest DOW 5,000 in a couple of years and Cash the safest bet in deflation.
http://www.charlesnenner.com/
… Renowned German economist Professor Wilhelm Hankel has written a second open letter to German Federal Chancellor Angela Merkel after his first plea to follow the dictates of reason and not introduce the constutionally disputed financial aid laws that will pump €750 billion into insolvent Eurozone banks while pushing Germany deeper into social and economic abyss was ignored….
…
…Germany : Poll: 98% Want a Public Referendum on Eurozone Aid
…
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/guest-post-open-letter-chancellor-merkel-repeal-financial-aid-laws-save-germany
When an Independent isn’t and independent.
Bloc of 3 independents to work together?
http://au.news.yahoo.com/election/a/-/article/7818736/wilkie-hits-out-at-independent-bloc/
The second developments is the findings by Jim Willie that the famous BIS swap of 380 tonnes was done, not to bail out Portugal or another central bank but the LBMA itself.
http://harveyorgan.blogspot.com/2010/08/august-242010-commentaryextremely.html
@Marc
Yes, you right.
The times I am referring to is the political landscape (well, at least here in Australia). Can the people vote for someone to really represent them? Or de we just carry on with I’m left and I’m right because my parents were?
Left and right are the same thing here anyway, I think they call it centre/left and centre/right
Politicians representing the PEOPLE aren’t good for business. The markets don’t like it, investors call it instability. But the people get representation.
Thats why it won’t last.
Shame.
Uri Geller’s Mind-Bender: Egyptian Loot in Scotland
He Claims an Island He Owns Is Stuffed With It; Neighbors Dubious
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703960004575427141750177982.html
Maybe he could Audit Fort Knox for us …. paranormally of course ?
Ron Paul Calls for Audit of US Gold Reserves : Kitco News Exclusive
24 August 2010, 5:24 a.m.
http://www.kitco.com/reports/KitcoNews20100824DC.html
More Hindenburg Omens than you can poke a stick at.
“We got a third official Hindenburg Omen observation Tuesday, August 24th.”
McHugh the Technical Uber Bear.
RICK SANTELLI: “THERE’S NOT ENOUGH PHYSICAL GOLD” 5-13-2010
http://www.trustedbullion.com/component/seyret/video/14/RICK-SANTELLI%3A-%22THERE'S-NOT-ENOUGH-PHYSICAL-GOLD%22-5-13-2010
Old … – 13th. May 2010 – but still good.
@Mini US
The times they are changin but for the worst. Where are all these US peace and love activists ? All dead ? Alzeimer brain dead ? There is nothing really going on in the USA except drugged up slobs not complaining and not revolting. I really think that these people have been administered something. It’s not the same country. Must fight the Aaaaaaaaraaaabs and Al-CIA-aida. 10 anniversary coming. 10 horrible years of rape and plunder by the usual neo-con Nazis controlling all the government. The times are changin. But it ain’t what most expected.
@Youri
Re: Australian election.
Looks like a few independents will hold the balance of power in the lower house and the Greens will hold it in the Senate.
The people are sick of two sides of politics pretending to be different and playing politics.
This may be bad for ‘business’ which means selling out the country to corporations. It is going to be hard to pass any legislation.
Then again, if it is a real shambles we will find ourselves back at the polls real soon. Thats how it works in politics – if they don’t like the result they just vote again until they are happy.
Bob Katter is about rejuvinating Australian industry that has been lost to Globalisation ie Dairy industry.
Be interesting to see what happens.
For the times they are a changin’.
Quite like this version…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oU7M4OeSRM&feature=related
I know Dedo,
we are all being used.
Hey FED, show us where the money went.
Fed Loses Bid for Review of Bailout Disclosure Ruling
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-08-23/u-s-appeals-court-refuses-to-review-disclosure-ruling-on-fed-bailouts.html
Data isn’t information. It costs money to mine data and generate information. The only reason Google is popular is because when you type in something you want to find you ususally get something useful back.
I agree that there should be some compensation for personal info in facebook but not everyone’s opinion or perspective on what information is, has a lot of value. That’s why some ideas are worth more than others.
Maybe we can earn shares in bread derivatives for providing personal information or blogging… sweeet! We could have hundreds of trillions in virtual bread loaves … I still prefer the physical golden brown stuff myself. If the people ain’t fed, they ain’t happy.
1 million Pakistanis starving and 20 million displaced. I don’t think these guys are too concerned about facebook. Whatever comes out of these new revenue generating schemes can’t simply be virtual. The personal information does have value. Isn’t taking that information and using it without proper compensation is stealing? If it goes the way of terrestrial resources, I expect the internet to turn into a vast wasteland modeled on the real world financial and economic systems. Pretty glossy splash screens with not enough reality to back it. Call it a fiat media.
I like the idea of the facebook union. Innovative. Iceland sounds like a good place for clean information content.
@Dan Valley
Looks a lot like Eastern Europe. I have noticed how the lady has all her marbles and is very articulate. What a waste indeed. No bailout here. Living on food stamps is total luxury.
@Mike
French assholes. A Mac Donald restaurant at the Louvres museum. Nothing best than a Mona Liza with gooey GM Big Mac and McNugget with silicon. .
Old story. Today the CIA uses Big Macs.
If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, looks at you like a duck, it’s probably pretty stoned..
I said before, fuck Al Gore, the Senior Google adviser :
http://www.algore.com/about.html
Stacy, Never agin speak well of him.
********Technical Analyst to the Stars, Charles Nenner, Jewish Genius, Says the Market Won’t Crash Until the Fall************* Pair w Andy Xie’s latest: peak deflation approaching, economic combustion to explode, backfiring into major Western nations through ultra-high inflation seemingly coming out of nowhere …* Great Stock pick: buy Air Asia when the bottom comes – Air Asia a solid, medium-long term opportunity; brilliant management & cutting-edge, integrated technology to reach its audience with.
http://www.madhedgefundtrader.com/june-7-2010-charles-nenner.html
http://www.madhedgefundtrader.com/june-7-2010-charles-nenner.html
http://www.oftwominds.com/blogaug10/walmart-plantation08-10.html
Wal-Mart is the quintessential plantation in the U.S. and global economies. Like a classic agricultural-commodity plantation, Wal-Mart enters a region and market with a diverse, employment-rich ecology of small businesses and networked supply chains of local and regional manufacturers and distributors, and it bulldozes the entire “forest” of businesses, suppliers and distributors with the irresistable blade of global supply chains and “lower prices, always.”
The original sugar king, Claus Spreckels, pioneered the integrated global plantation economy of scale: he owned the plantations which grew the sugar cane, the ships used to export the cane and the refineries which processed it for distribution to global markets.
He also imported uncomplaining, cheap (i.e. desperately poor) labor to provide the heavy work required.
Wal-Mart doesn’t have to own the suppliers or distributors or the ships–it’s great size gives it supreme pricing power and the ability to offer suppliers a simple yet stark choice: either lower your price to our price-point or we pull your contract, and you implode. You may survive as a much smaller business, but probably not.
It’s official. If it quacks, walks and flies like a depression, well, it’s a depression.
http://www.thecomingdepression.net/main-street/scams/coming-depression-to-lead-to-another-war-faber/
‘We are going to have another war.’ Marc Faber
Just what the doctor ordered to ruin for good everyone. Count me out. Imperialist neo-cons nazis pigs. It’s not even a caricature.
http://www.thecomingdepression.net/main-street/scams/coming-depression-to-lead-to-another-war-faber/
Facebook union is a nonsense,
wikileaks is real change
America the homeless
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=al5WLdcnDyU&feature=related
@GGees
Always wondered how it looks and what’s it like in NZ? Know there are quiet some Dutch emigrants in NZ. Mostly farmers I believe but often the off sprout is going other directions too.
Why today’s declines are just the beginning http://www.marketwatch.com/story/why-todays-declines-are-just-the-beginning-2010-08-24
M A X your delicious. love your shirt, seems psychedelic, maybe the STROBE light in the house, extreme light. love your black buttons on your collar. stacy you have ivory skin. love, both of your hand language. your not just LOVED by hollywood, we love you, seriously. well i am glad i watched this clip. stay a strong voice, appreciate all your work and stance.
facebook SUCKS, just sayin’.
@ Youri
We moved to NZ 4 years ago–never regretted it for 1 second
WWIII ahead: Warfare defining human life by 2020 – Commentary: ‘Mother of all national security issues: desperate wars over food, water, energy’ by Paul B. Farrell http://www.marketwatch.com/story/righteous-right-leads-us-straight-to-wwiii-2010-08-24
@dan valley
Darth Vader – Fucking About http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHB9tiUoTFg
Key Wooing Billionaires to New Zealand Minus English `Attitude’ http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-08-23/key-wooing-billionaires-says-new-zealand-equals-england-minus-the-attitude.html
Man wearing Darth Vader mask and cape robs Long Island bank with gun, shoves customer to floor
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2010/07/22/2010-07-22_empire_strikes_bank_thats_no_lightsaber_vaders_carrying_in_li_stickup.html?obref=obnetwork#ixzz0xZZEh9CW
From the land down under
Global Investors Hang on Nation Going Bananas: William Pesek http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-08-23/global-investors-hang-on-nation-going-bananas-william-pesek.html
Bob Katter, it’s often said in Australia, has gone bananas.
If anything is clear it’s this: the nation is entering a period of instability unlike anything many of today’s investors have seen and at the worst time possible.
The real-estate bubble: Things are so frothy that Morgan Stanley is advising investors to buy put options on real estate and bank shares to profit from a likely housing-market bust.
Electric car with 400 mph range
http://news.yahoo.com/video/kansascity-kmbc-18211647/student-built-car-could-get-400-mpg-21529375#video=21529375
Man U go bankupt
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/aug/24/manchester-united-glazers-mortgage-malls
Mike
“THERE is no [unifying] organisation behind Chaos” – nice S !
U.S. Existing Home Sales in Record Plunge http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-08-24/sales-of-u-s-existing-homes-drop-more-than-estimated-to-3-83-million-rate.html
chose your G-d F. Beard Mammon or Jesus not gonna have both…Capitolism is a system of explotation no matter how you fudge it…
Face book to rake in even more profits via ‘Facebook, the movie”. Maybe they can make EVEN MORE money by putting it on the box office futures exchange.
http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/movie-talk-facebook-doesnt-like-the-social-network-movie.html
I know I know you desperately want to have you christian capitolism cake… chArles
Indeed I do but I am not willing to let anyone suffer while the system is being reformed and even afterward if true capitalism and private charity is insufficient. However, I’m pretty dang sure the need for socialism will be greatly reduced if we can eliminate the government backed cartels, particular the banking cartel.
Ireland Long-Term Sovereign Credit Rating Cut by S&P http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-08-24/ireland-s-long-term-sovereign-debt-rating-cut-by-standard-poor-s-to-aa-.html
@Stacy
you’ll never work in Hollywood again either.
@Marc A et al
You bring up some excellent points. Maybe the idea is to get the rest of the world to hate America. It certainly wouldn’t be too hard to do at this point.
Sit in the background, pit your enemies against each other until they destroy their people and economies, and when its over, you’re on top – again.
Haven’t we seen this somewhere before?
@” Ideally, charity should be private”,,,,uhmmm I have no conception what you mean there Beard…my obligation to my fellow sapien’s is neither a private affair or a public one…it just is….I know I know you desperately want to have you christian capitolism cake….just don’t work that way…they are incopatible…one will always be a system that demands universal empathy and the other and economic system of explotation…fudge it, nudge it, grease it all you won’t the camel just can pass through that needle
also the left is grumpy with Zizek and Bo, taking away the younger folks who have given up on Librealism and Deomocracy
http://www.dissentmagazine.org/atw.php?id=122
Hi Ron
BTW What ever happened to Phil?
Mike
CIA used LSD on the French!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-10996838
Mike
I must be getting tired; some of the comments are all Greek to me,
you and i just wished Stacy sweet dreams at the same time. ronron
Yes, I thought that might be it but there is a 1 minute difference in the time stamp. The Lord works in mysterious ways.
@Beardo. round here it’s a democracy. if not i,d be gone.
Stacy fucking loves me. hahaha
Ρεμπέτικα Γερμανοί http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucVZipYvfuw
…that’s right folk’s Socialism is a Christian conspiracy chArles
Ideally, charity should be private but we don’t have an ideal society so I say let’s have as much socialism as necessary to help the victims of the counterfeiting cartel.
@Beardo. just saying, something is in charge. us you fuck.
@Beardo. you and i just wished Stacy sweet dreams at the same time. wake the fuck up.
something weird just happened. you figure it out. ronron
You mean our near identical good night to Stacy?
@george popadopalopalouslous
Ο Γιώργος Παπανδρέου είναι η αγγλική πράκτορα τσιράκι Rotschild και ένα Bilderberger αυτός είναι προδότης. εσείς πρέπει να απαλλαγούμε από αυτόν.
Ο Λόρδος Μάντελσον αναλαμβάνει τα καθήκοντά του – στην Κέρκυρα. Ο γραμματέας των επιχειρήσεων δείπνησε με δισεκατομμυριούχους στο κτήμα οικογένειας Ρότσιλντ, πριν επιστρέψετε για να τρέξει Βρετανία μέσω BlackBerry http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article6788735.ece
Ronron,
Based on the sound quality I thought it was an old LP maybe a 78 but I see the singer was born in 1966. Also, the modern style was a give away. Golly, those miners will be trapped till Christmas. I hope they get paid 24 hours at day at overtime rates.
@ F. Beard
I am a lefty, my politics comes from the conception that all folks are equal, whether I like them or not I am obligated to them, and I can’t tell em what to do and they can’t tell me what to do….all of which, the whole Leftist ideology from Roussea, toGodwin, to Fourier, to Marx, to Emma Goldman all of got it from the Western World’s encounter with Christianity…OK?????
the whole Hebraic merging with the Hellenistic created Christianity which gave us a bunch of Anarchist, Socialist and Marxist so live with it
all are equal at the foot of the cross, you are your brothers keeper and so on…that’s right folk’s Socialism is a Christian conspiracy
price of oil for an Italian billionaire
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Se79NO4ODP0
@Beardo. something weird just happened. you figure it out.
oh and nighty night Stacy. sweet dreams.
Good morning Stacy and good night too. Sweet dreams.
for you Beardo. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9n6dLc1eA2o
@ stacyherbert
guest ideas, Alain Badiou and Slavoj Žižek….yes not often do you get a Anarchist recommending a Moaist and Leninist….but both writers are offering some of the most interesting insights on humanity’s current economic, social and ecological swamp…you have on the Max Headroom talking volentirism, have on the commie talking the same talk
brief write up in Ad Busters concerning their current opinions
https://www.adbusters.org/magazine/91/eternal-idea-revolutionary-justice.html
Yes, the God of the Bible is sometimes wrathful but it is very important to see what makes Him angry, IMO. He is not capricious such as the Greek gods, for instance. (Sorry Stacy
)
@Beardo thanks. praise you and all.
all the while the Mill owners would spoon feed you the most vile form of religion … chArles
No doubt but here is what the Bible says about oppressing the poor. This is by no means exhaustive; just a quick word search of “oppress + poor”:
Bible search of “oppress poor”
hi mike.
Stacy
GO TO BED !!!!
Big day tomorrow!
Mike
@Paddy – the $100 trade was the butterfly flapping its wings that caused WTC to hit 147 a few months later; Semgroup, which was an oil pipeline giant, would have had first hand knowledge that there wasn’t the demand or supply issues to warrant the $100 price tag and so took out a huge bet that prices would fall; big mistake as they ended up getting in serious financial trouble and had to go to Goldman Sachs, the biggest player in the oil market, and GS saw Semgroup’s books and realized they could make a serious killing if oil continued to rise even further: http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2009/0413/096-sachs-semgroup-goldman-goose-oil.html
@Marc Authier
thanks for the Wal Mart plantation link…my entire country has incorporated this model producing a barren infanatized monoculture…the old Mill system that my great grandparents tried to organize against was the original model…they worked you 12-14hrs a day at 25 cents, and you rented your house, bought your food stuffs, from the same folks that owned your Mill, all the while the Mill owners would spoon feed you the most vile form of religion and politics from the churches and news papers they also owned too
And now I am watching Hitlers Children – 24 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sscc7Qz1S3k in the said tought that humanity has learned absolutely nothing and that the U.S. and Israel has followed up the dreadfull NAZI atrocities or maybe even worse when knowing what happened during WOIII, that’s double stupid.
Than you see this little rat Petraeus in his monkey suit makes you wonna throw up. It’s all so insanely pathetic, what a stupidity these people embody. And they realy think the monkey suit can make up for that so that we take them seriously. ahah! Not!
@stacyherbert
Monday Autumn Started in the Netherlands – My call.
It took Anne Franks tree in Amsterdam on it’s firesome start and nearly took the girlfriend of my best friend with it since she just had lunch on the place the big ol tree fell in the back yard of the company she works.
She even on some pictures but so little you only can say if told, like me.
Anne Frank tree falls in heavy winds despite ‘rescue’ battle http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/world-war-2/7960315/Anne-Frank-tree-falls-in-heavy-winds-despite-rescue-battle.html
Not so sure why the vanity trade is such a big deal… Paddy
The regulators must justify their existence even if effective regulation of an inherently dishonest system is impossible. It reminds me of cops going after harmless drug users rather than dangerous criminals.
Not so sure why the vanity trade is such a big deal….the price of WTIC hit $150 or so anyway a few months later.
Good show Max,
Facebook is just a marketing & lead generation tool,
so is Google.
Toll gates do cause traffic congestion.
I can only agree.
@leobrady
J’au fait une banquerooute.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KXGSCZM8Zw&feature=related
Québec celtic folklore.
Who is next after Ireland. Can’t wait.
Europe Prepares for Bloodbath Open After Ireland Lowered By S&P To AA- From AA, Outlook Negative
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/europe-prepares-bloodbath-open-after-ireland-lowered-sp-aa-aa-outlook-negative
@flicks … you must have been asleep then !
…. On 1 August 2010, during solar cycle 24, scientists at the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics (CfA) observed a series of four large CMEs emanating from the Earth-facing hemisphere. The initial CME was generated by an eruption on August 1 associated with sunspot 1092, a sunspot which was large enough to be seen without the aid of a solar telescope. The event produced significant aurorae on August 4.
…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coronal_mass_ejection#History
… The Sun’s energy is the principal driver of all of Earth’s atmospheric events, from weather patterns in the lower layers, through auroras in the upper layers, to the space weather environment of energetic particles at the altitudes of orbiting satellites
http://helios.gsfc.nasa.gov/sun.html
… “Now we know,” says THEMIS project scientist David Sibeck of the Goddard Space Flight Center. “Plasma jets trigger spacequakes.”
…
http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2010/27jul_spacequakes/
Graphs of Historical Solar Cycles
http://www.ips.gov.au/Educational/2/3/1
just like the sound of ‘Topeka’ Stacy
Sorry, I knew better. I like Poughkeepsie myself though it is illegal to pick one’s feet there, I’ve heard.
@Sebi – never heard of them, but I’m normally suspicious of any company that uses the word ‘trusted’ in their name
@F.Beard – just like the sound of ‘Topeka’
Alien abductions are often associated with those who indulge in occult activity, leading some to infer that the “aliens” are demonic impersonations.
There will be enough time to ground all flights but other stuff will indeed be knocked out. flicks
I hope they can protect the power grid and generating equipment too even if they have to take it offline for a day or two.
Stacy,
Your question about Topeka reminds of a typical New Yorker’s grasp of US geography: There is the East Coast, the West Coast and Kansas (I guess they saw the Wizard of Oz).
With regards the massive solar flare. There will be enough time to ground all flights but other stuff will indeed be knocked out.
“The Suns eruptions have been very big lately… cause for concern indeed !”
Nope sorry that’s not true. Ive watched the sun every day for over two years – its been very quiet.
Keep an eye on it yourself :-
http://solarcycle24.com/
Looks like Max & Stacy have some fans . . . did a search for Max on Google and came up with a video on this site, Trusted Bullion. Their video platform is new, I think, because everything is posted from this week. Glad they are posting the Keiser Report.
Do you know these guys Stacy?
http://www.trustedbullion.com/component/seyret/video/8/Keiser-Report-%E2%84%9670%3A-Markets!-Finance!-Scandal!
Not that I defend BP. I’ll never buy gas from them again if I can help it.
New species of bacteria eats oil plume without using up oxygen
It seems the Creator is not fazed by an oil spill.
@Dedo .. curve fitting indeed !
( posted as a curiosity .. nothing more )
@F.Beard … Yes, we know it could happen.
The Suns eruptions have been very big lately… cause for concern indeed !
While we waste money on CO2 reduction, here is a real danger:
Top Physicist Says Solar Flare Would Set Us Back 100 Years
@Mirror Mirror,…..That guy on the CCTV obviously took a two hour trip to the local bar,… you seem to be following Stacy’s strategy of “curve fitting”, it seems ,…. : )
Wal-Mart and the plantation economy.
http://www.oftwominds.com/blogaug10/walmart-plantation08-10.html
@ Talcott,
Yea, I understood. I apologize for unintentionally implying otherwise.
@F.Beard
That was quote from the article I linked (not my words) for amusement purposes.
χώρα ανάκλησης έξω με να πάρει πίσω τα χρήματά μας. πρέπει να αφήσουμε το ευρώ.
@Stacy,
Nope it is 80.2F (I don’t speak centigrade). Yea, weather isn’t climate but I do like throwing snowballs at you
@F.Beard – are you telling me that it’s cold in Topeka today? Nine nations have broken record temperatures this summer; 15 countries so far this year: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/08/24/record-heat-9-nations-tha_n_691367.html#s128137
On his Wunder Blog, Masters writes that even the amount of countries experiencing record temperatures sets a new record, as never has such a large area of the Earth’s surface — 19 percent — experienced all-time record high temperatures in a single year.
@F. Beard …. Early Snow in Russia
Obviously global warming !
BTW … I’ve always said it here … “volatility” !
The equilibrium of hot/cold temperature and high/low pressure (weather) … normally determined by the larger climate equilibrium … is out of sync IMO !
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/8929542.stm
Heres Mike
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsmItqOiEIA
Must see!! Actual alien abduction caught by security cam.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wfDF7uT2yQ
Early Snow in Russia
Google and Facebook strategy explained. And you can lump in all the rest.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnVYlLnXiPk&feature=fvw
“You may not like it — and it’s difficult to swallow the bailouts — but that’s the nature of this system.” Talcott
That is precisely how fractional reserve banking is NOT supposed to work so even that last fig leaf of respectability is lost. No wonder that Karl Denninger, who defends fractional reserve lending, is angry.
Ufo switches off nuclear dummy warhead http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WU9Y_cCqLw
Tangible Evidence of UFO Alien Visitation MUST SEE!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ba2pu72Yu5w
“To counter the crisis, the government wisely saved the banks, because if the banks went down, everything else would follow. You may not like it — and it’s difficult to swallow the bailouts — but that’s the nature of this system.”
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/political-economy/2010/08/painful_as_it_is_to.html
roflmao
Me to MirrorMirror. Me too. BOYCOTT USA ! Boycott USA ! The plave mus be boycotted at all price ! Scary news. It at least Alex Jones was just a crakpot. He is not. Depressing ! What is the matter with thes American fucks ! What is wrong with their fucked up brains !
@MirrorMirror
They are allready here! http://videoadvertentiesholland.tk/video/Central-Beheer-Alien-Invasion-2
@Marc A … I wish those Aliens would hurry up and land.
Sort the ******* out in DC !
http://www.prisonplanet.com/pre-crime-technology-to-be-used-in-washington-d-c.html
USA phychopaths.
Pre crime technology used in Washington Wil the fuckin bastards use on Congress and the mother fucker working in White House, the house United Satan of America ?
http://www.prisonplanet.com/pre-crime-technology-to-be-used-in-washington-d-c.html
Psychopathis Nazi USA.
@Youri Carma …. Austin Fits on AJS Right Now!
Does AJ realize he’s playing Wagner’s “Ride of the Valkyries” in the intermittances ? Strange considering the background which Alex is against !
BTW .. Thx, I like Catherine ( as well).
http://www.vigile.net/
Hillary Clinton is on fine war monger bitch.
And it’s coming from people in Israel. Marc Authier
There is huge irony in that. Israel was always meant to rely on the Lord, not horses and chariots or behavior more suitable to the Nazis.
@ ji
regarding r. paul cnn
why do you think cnn shows cuban flag on the right monitor? Is that always when there’s “islam” case? have you noticed any pattern?
@Geek
Russians are total assholes when it comes to UK and the english speaking world. Bono should be administered a burning suppotosary like James the first. Medvedev also. Boy. I really miss Poutine.
@The underfundedmentalist
And it’s coming from people in Israel. You have to be really a total retard to accept to have a RDFI in the arse. Adolf Hitler is laughing.
Thanks Stacy and Max
having followed your broacasts for some time now, I seem to recognize
serfs and feudal lords everywhere.
last weekend for example:man city -liverpool. the light blue serfs unfurl a
banner saying:manchester city thanks sheikh makhtum, they then applaud him,as he graciously applauds them applauding him.
meanwhile the red serfs wonder whether their american oligarch
overlords are weaker than the sheikh.
the fact that the glazers are still alive after disemboweling man united
is in itself enough proof that the uk is one step closer to serfdom
than the rest of the continent.
@MarcAuthier:
Be careful of talk of Nazis: Steig Larsson and Christopher Story both died by looking too closely….
@F.Beard
well said!!
First Indication that the St Louis Fed Knows Bernanke is a Mad Scientist
David Wheelock, VP research Division at the St Louis Fed (and author of The Strategy and Consistency of Federal Reserve Monetary Policy 1924-1933, Cambridge University Press, 1991) pens a note that points out facts known here at EPJ for at least a year:
…
…
http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2010/08/first-indication-that-st-louis-fed.html
Austin Fits on AJS Right Now!
http://www.infowars.com/
Will someone just shove a pie in his face for f**k sake.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75xahSQwdYY&feature=channel
if you haven’t you should
http://www.ronpaul.com/2010-08-24/ron-paul-without-hate-for-islam-our-aggressive-foreign-policy-couldnt-continue
I think it’s coming the end is near
the US is bankrupt
Call it a prison, and they will fight like hell to get out,
call it a project, and they will fight like hell to get in.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/08/24/john-boehner-wants-obama-_n_692331.html
Wonder what they have on Obama, it seems the banks can shut everyone up and down, good and proper.
Well, 70cm. by 2100 ? Mirror^2
I figure since the rise will be in centimeters, it won’t affect America since we use inches.
@F. Beard …. Maybe folks should figure out where the new coastline and ports will be and invest accordingly.
Well, 70cm. by 2100 ?
Strange how all these “MSM scientists” always come out with different stories about the same.
I read only yesterday that we’ll see ca 7 meters within 20 years.
Just attention ( link hit ) seekers IMO.
Of course, I do expect the oceans to rise going forward, but not because of man made global warming … more to do with the Sun’s activities.
( yes, I repeat myself … I know )
Maybe folks should figure out where the new coastline and ports will be and invest accordingly.
Here ya go Stacy, Science Daily is fretting again.
Sea Level to Rise Even With Aggressive Geo-Engineering and Greenhouse Gas Control, Study Finds
@Max
re guest, “I don’t want to run away from the place where we are at”
I think most people like the “wild west” environment of the Internet and are reticent to see ANY kind of master, either Corporate or Government. Back to an earlier posting a week or 2 weeks ago on MK: Why do we have to have Corporations co-opting the “pipes” or why do we have to have Government regulation entangling our future innovation?
Can’t we have a continuation of existing practices?
Can’t we live without having a Master?
Is there a solution to allow us to be “left alone?”
Or must we embrace – one or the other – Corporate or Government?
Toll booths (defacto via pipes control) or Regulation (govt subterfuge)?
@Max. I just recently saw this commercial on the internet, it’s a Israeli coca cola commercial for something called coca cola village. It’s all 100% corporatist elitist and pretty orwellian for that matter fun land place where everything and anything is coca cola. Also, it’s all 100% RFID’d check it out. These poor Israeli teenagers have NO clue what they’re getting themselves into, lol it’s kind of funny in a sick way.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqwDqN7LNsc&feature=player_embedded
When I see things like this, I some times don’t know whether to be sorry for them or pissed off. You know when you see some one do something so dumb, it just pisses you off because your thinking why the hell would anyone do that, and your minds only reaction is anger…. well here ya go, another good reason to boycott coca cola, oh, and this is also all tied to facebook, so maybe boycott facebook too now.
it’s a miracle
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFGmAwhuwUM
or this for those having problem with the first
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHTWVKbWbqY
”if you’ve done nothing wrong, you’ve nothing to hide” Dedo
And if the government was not a murderous busybody it would not be paranoid about its own population.
GREAT INTERVIEW … MUST WATCH :
Sheriff Mack: Hypocrisy Epidemic!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEoeLGIL3BI
I read about this guy a while back … he is a member of the ( Constituion ) “Oath Keepers”.
Great guy IMO.
Listen to him !
re Facebook Union -
I get the intellectual concept and I do not know (or thought about) how the long range-extrapolation of this in practical monetary terms would mean for an individual. But practically speaking, currently, we are talking about: (1) a passive user collecting $0.20 per year for their share of being a statistic in the paradigm, (2) and as an active user, one should be collecting $0.50 per day.
I don’t see this gaining traction…any time soon.
@Max
You, Mel and Oliver Stone and and and and and …. will never work in Hollywood again.
There days are also numbered. Keep supporting the Indiens !
Boehner could very well be the next house speaker.
@mirror
Thanks for the info. These are of course childish stuff for the older generation. what worries me is meta-verse that are being pushed on the kids
Boehner Calls on Obama to Fire Geithner, Economic Team
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWuSG5ND0G8
The History of Google Acquistions
http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2010/08/google-acquistions/
@mae’s fanny … you’ll be given an email at birth.
In Germany, that’s already on it’s way … called “DMail” or something !
The idea being that you are identified by your Dmail address and can send official docs to th Govt.
FWIW
Data collection on the public has been going on for time immemorial,.it’s just that now, folk are being trained it’s “normal”,…..: )
What the slogan,…”if you’ve done nothing wrong, you’ve nothing to hide”,…Baaa baaah
“He’s a Big VP” (all vainglorious pursuit)
@Dan
Better bang for you buck in silver. Specially with a gold silver ratio of 67 !
I wouldn’t take very much to squeeze the paper shorts on silver.
What’s the short position again on silver in London and New-York ? 3 years production ? I don’r remember the exact number. But you just need 0,85% of paper silver converted in physical to dry up all the physical silver !
111 times more paper silver that the physical stuff and 67 times cheaper than gold ! .
“There is no organization behind chaos…” – funny!
@Stacy
I absolutely love all these Keiser Reports (and OTE videos that you are doing): It is nice that you are able to do so many. I hope it is as enjoyable for you to make as it is for us to watch…because I would like to keep seeing them coming!
Much stronger move in silver today than gold
– how many ‘friends’ did you have before you deleted it? Stacy
About a dozen. It was getting out of hand.
sorry forgot to include link to our holy sisters
http://www.cnbc.com/id/38672575
btw browse over comments too. interesting mindset and info
cheerio I’ll go beat my neighbour since i’m half religious.
god bless and our thoughts go to the nuns who lost their worldly fortunes in stock markets
MIke still around? Anyway: GOLD IS GETTING KILLED!!
Old news but I hear repetition is good.
you’ll be given an email at birth.
http://www.popsci.com/technology/article/2009-11/turkey-wants-citizens-use-government-controlled-e-mail
Stacy for President! go get em , Girl!!
now now marc, you are being ridicules, those are for your safety. DO YOU like them sandmokeys to blow up their underpants in your flight. you could of course start a anti-scanning group on fecebook
@MirrorMirror
100 km from there and I can’t stand the propaganda. You have 50% of people clearly indoctrinated by the US media. It’s the same thing in Canada. They introduced here the naked body scanners and NOT one damn air traveler or human rights protested. Our media is 100% controlled here. DISGUSTING.
http://video.foxnews.com/v/4311300/video-game-lets-you-be-the-taliban/
Well wirong translation in french. You play the Taliban ! Naturally Fox TV, that US hate machine says no big deal. No big deal. Role playing. Train people to kill first by video. And then pass to the next level of playing. Real stuff killing. Killing people in no game.
@Marc A… do you live in the US ?
Just curious !
Electrocnic Arts will soon be launchng another game. ‘Nuke your personal Iraniina’. It’s part of conditioning the godamn USA racist retards said the Public Relation direntor.
http://techno.ca.msn.com/cp-article.aspx?cp-documentid=25323401
You could modulate the game to add North Korea. Kill you rice bowl eater. Kill your french frog Kill your Paki. Kill your Russian,. Yeah USA is hate machine in 2010.
A friend called me and said he couldn’t find me on Facebook. I told him you fucking idiot now you see how easy it is to find me, why go true Facebook? I love all the idiots spending their time in that shit but get real, no one will go anyplace by applying communism on the users. Start your own network instead of being a useless socialist unionist. If you don’t like Facebook or Coca Cola or what ever, don’t use it! You don’t like your job then quit, don’t be a parasite and try to extort your employer true unions.
Wonder how these American Nazi racists would react if somebody launched on the market a video game where you kill US Army soldiers ?
It’s a cleat proof that USA is fundementally a racist and nazi nation. Hey how would the Israeli and the Jews react if somebody distributed a type of game ? Don’t forget. The lovin mother fuckers from the CIA financed during a quarter century ! the Talibans.
. http://techno.ca.msn.com/cp-article.aspx?cp-documentid=25323401
Kil your Taliban video game. Next. Exterminate you Muslin video game. USA Nazis.
AND at the end of the day, the counter is these people are spending time providing data but as part of their recreation time/interest. If they just have to socialize with people on these so called ‘free’ services then they get what you pay for.
Whilst I get the point they are giving away a commodity and could attempt to broker a return against it, for me there is something a bit 80′s about the idea of costing everything in life.
So for one reason or another I think Richard Buchanan”s ‘change from within’ admission to needing to be a part of this beast, to me is incredibly worrying.
My gut reaction is to think a Facebook union would be a pact with the devil and the thin edge of the wedge. Being paid to provide data isn’t the same as being made aware of everytime it is used and by that I mean sold. Which would include the placement of an advertisment triggered by ‘my’ browsing profile. AND this is hardly even getting to the negative use of data by which it is processed to act as a blacklist or exclusion.
People are giving themselves away out of ignorance to the consquences or as often, simple blooded minded stupidity. AND children aren’t being protected at all.
The idea the data is aggregated but in the process therefore made anonymous eventually becomes bogus. Through cross tabulation a particular individual is laid bare. And anyhow, invasion of privacy isn’t just about peeping Toms, it’s about knowing how to gain advantage over another. It is covert survelliance, manipulation and rigging the game. We forget little things but their business is to forget nothing. Just think with a little sales data pivoted over time I could know just when your sugar levels are at their lowest or some other state at which you are at your most vunerable. AND then I pounce!
I know marketers and they hide behind an appeal to providing a service. Helping locate what the ‘cash rich, time poor’ haven’t got chance to discover for themselves.
And everyone is lead to believe their freewill can protect them from this bombardment of the senses. This cajouling and fear mongering.
Buyer Beware. There are no free lunches.
long time ago i wanted to start a business with assbook.com I guarantee you, i would have paid 20% back to the users but unfortunately URL was registered and the person(s) owning it do not reply to my emails, even though they say it’s for sale maybe facebook (cia) owns that too
@ji , i’ll give away my thoughts for a farthing.
any ways got to go back maintaining my addictions again.
@evolutis, great idea!
Thanks to the Silverfuterist for this link :-
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703908704575433670771742884.html?mod=WSJ_newsreel_personalFinance
@joseph cecil smith – oops, too late, and as it was free, there’s no money back for you
@Warheit – interesting re: your attempt to open Facebook account . . . perhaps parents who give their children strange names might be restricting their ability to join the online community?
@F.Beard – how many ‘friends’ did you have before you deleted it?
@Mike/Liverpool – where are you? gold is crashing
Next June Robin Griffiths predicts maket crash :-
http://kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/KWN_DailyWeb/Entries/2010/8/24_Robin_Griffiths_-_Chart_of_a_Market_Collapse.html
Mother Earth – where is this film you have made on youtube ?
Come on fess up, lets see the bollocks
Hi Stacy and Max, there is a small editing error in the new Keiser Report 71, when Max asks his esteemed guest what Diaspora is, that question is not audible, but then the guest answers and so the viewer can figure it out. just letting you know in case you can fix it quick. delete this comment..
thanks a TON for putting so much information out for the last few years.. truly, y’all do more than almost anyone to elucidate the complex chicanery of our govt and business corruptions.
@ Max & Stacy
I’ve been in Greece the past ten days. Didn’t watch any NEWZ till last night. There was a bank robbery in Pieraeus yesterday and another today, don’t know exactly where. The second got away with a million Euros.
Good Night America
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ds09rrtz43g
Bonds away ? Let’s nuke em all with bonds. The ultimate new arm of mass destruction ? B-O-N-D-S.
http://www.businessinsider.com/peter-schiff-bonds-mother-all-bubbles-2010-8?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+businessinsider+%28Business+Insider%29
You have to crazy to buy bonds presently. CRAZY indeed.
ZeroHedge : Gold Goes Vertical As Goldman Reiterrates Harsh QE Expectations
Well, we sure hope you, ahem, bought the dip. A $17 vertical move in minutes is an appetizer of what will happen when Bernanke says the wrong word at J-Hole (and he most likely will).
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http://www.zerohedge.com/article/gold-goes-vertical-goldman-reiterrates-harsh-qe-expectations
AND NOW THE PARY LINE from WSJ :
PRECIOUS METALS: Gold Falls In Move To Dollar, Yen, Treasurys
http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20100824-708119.html
LOL !
We had best be “laying out our winter clothes” Simon & Garfunkel – The Boxer
Lady’s and Gentlemen, The main event, The undefeated, World Champion “ Monetary System” VS the entity, and consistant challenger, that has never won a single round, ‘The Homo Sapiens”
Round 1 – Jabs, bobbing and weaving, Babylon[1531BC, KO], Round 2 -feinting, drawing leads, Round 3 – Greece[400BC]KO, counterpunching, Already to punch drug to know what the hell round we are in Rome[476AD,KO] tying up and mixing it, with body shots along with 1,2’s, Hanseatic League -KO punch combinations flurries were utilized, British Empire[1902KO]short, lateral movement, body positioning technique and strategy, body punching, “Rope a dope”, USA[Late2002AD KO’d yet again Maddness] The past has once again destroyed the future.
It is a completely destructive irrational system, so why don’t we “smart” people see it?
You know that’s a really good argument; our position of continually doing the same thing over and over is mistaken. And every bright, commentator on this site has made testament to that, in many, many clever ways.Now if we can just change our minds and never, never get back in that malignant ring.
The sum of all our desktops equals a super computer. This powerful surplus can and will, change the world. We need only to direct it’s power to design a new paradigm. Let the triage begin.
@F. Beard
I just tried signing up for Facebook with the name Fart Monster but it rejected it saying they need a real name.
I guess Facebook really is about tracking people.
You should know with a name like MirrorMirror.
Hey Mike ? The stock racket is being killed this morning.
Heat Records Set in 17 Countries — So Far
http://blogs.kqed.org/climatewatch/2010/08/13/heat-records-set-in-17-countries-so-far/
BTW … 17 of 182 countries !
The Sun’s irregular behavior may have more to do with this than “global” warming as such.
Repeat … Pollution is the REALLY BIG problem.
@Dan Valley
Athems is burning too.
What ? You now out of the silver mine with Barabas ? Rome is burning. It’s the Christians. Today it’s the Muslims. To easch epoch it’s scapegoat.
Hope Dan that you far away from Rome ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZBV6ZeOBMI&feature=related
One intends to fight back one should engage in deception. The very tactic that works for the establishment should work for everybody else.
LET THE DISINFORMATION BEGIN! FILL THOSE PAGES WITH LOTS OF “MEANINGFUL” INFORMATION, THE MORE THE MERRIER!
Marc Authier @ Ive long moved from the plantation
OK, I deleted my Facebook account.
“You have 0 friends”
I lover when you wear the mafia black shirt maxie. That purple tie, mmmmm, so royal. And of course since all of your guests are not as attractive as you, you look even more yummy….. oooohhh I just want to squeeze you up into a little ball and well you get it….
@Dan Velley
Was jist an illusion of freedom.
Impossible to fire Geither. The banksters own the slave state. It’s their property. Private property. No trepassing allowed. Geithner owns you slave.
Slavery in reality was never abolished in USA. Neither in the UK
@Dan Velley
Impossible to fire Geither. The banksters own the slave state. It’s their property. Private property. No trepassing allowed. Geithner owns you slave.
seriously – I’m not kidding that is where we are headed.
(btw that idea is copyrighted by me AND it will cost you another penny please for reading that and this)
thank you come again.
By the wat, facebook simply violated the privacy of its users, as we now see that within companies people have a right to privacy (no email snooping allowed). Instead of legitimizing it, why not simply denying the use of any aggregated data?
@flicks I’m projecting that there will be a high demand in the near future for hemp, scrap iron and many many tall trees.
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If you just read the above that will be one penny please.
I need to get a little adsense widget script thingy to carry around with me online. If you like what I say or a link I direct you to you can click on my lil icon and I’ll receive points and if you also click the tiny ad next to my icon it I’ll make some money.
That’s where we are headed right?
How else will I be able to pay for the on-line tolls?
Nice graph showing how the recovery is taking place as we are speaking…
http://jsmineset.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/August2310Failures.pdf
But if vain glory is a basis for punitive damages, than what about bonusses? Mother Earth
That reminds me: The legal system refuses to deal with the root cause of these problems, leverage, more correctly known as counterfeiting which is possible because of the Fed and government privilege for the banks. We need fundamental reform.
This death spiral is intentional. They want to set up a world government, run by the international banking cartel and military industrial complex, and to do that they need another disaster.
But THEY the globalists are the revolutionaries. WE the public are reactionaries, until pushed too far.
DeLay heads to court on 2005 laundering charges http://trunc.it/ajvfw Megan McCardle spoke too soon http://tinyurl.com/22ryg2k
a penny for my thoughts?
sorry, couldn’t resist
But if vain glory is a basis for punitive damages, than what about bonusses? The first million is a win, but after that isn’t it pure vanity? Status symbols anyone?
“sweetheart deal”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/08/23/bank-settlements-judges-t_n_692048.html
I’ve been using the phrase vain glory all weekend – must be something in the air…
My youtbe channel wasn;t working, I could not upload or do direct upload, then I changed the title of my last video to ‘Channel blocked’, and now the title is reset and my most recent upload works, and it is callsified as a Blog..Que Le Nique?
@Max and Stacy
I’ll be passing through Paris soon, perhaps I can do a better interview for dutch audience? Since you are supporting my PMF project, do you have any suggestions?
Ah Stacy. You were feistier than usual. Max is so blessed to have you to keep him in check.
U.S. House GOP leader urges President Obama to fire Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner, other key economic advisers http://bit.ly/97sZMn
In the center of Athens about 25% of all shops are closed down, and 17% in the whole of Athens. No banks are closed tho.
That guy needs some heavy weight brains and laser focus behind him .
The public (me included) are addicted to the internet so we can be fucked over.
Hey ! It’s fascism at its best ! Kudos to our Nazis from Europe and USA ! Congratulations !
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