Stacy Summary: The latest wikileaks release. Your thoughts?
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Exporter of debt!
I luvs mah guns
tell us something we don’t know
GOD Guns Oil and Drugs. Don’t forget the smack.
I’ve read the actual memo and can say that the summary you linked to is pretty accurate.
The title/headline is a bit misleading, though. There’s no admission that the U.S. government is directing the exportation of terrorism, only a recognition that American citizens have engaged in terrorist acts, presumably by their own choice.
Since the title and not the substance is what everybody is going to focus on initially, we’re going to see a lot of commentary from liberals/progressives that can and will be easily rebutted by referring to the actual substance of the document. As a consequence, this document supports Max’s “WikiLeaks as infowars” thesis as well as the “WikiLeaks is a CIA operation” thesis that the more paranoid commentors have offered.
If anyone on this forum really believes anything that is paraded on the public forum is happenstance,….well, more fool you!
When playing chess, it’s advantageous to view the board in its entirety, not just the individual pieces…..
It IS</strong internationally understood that the United States is an exporter of terrorism!!! State terrorism.
It IS internationally understood that the United States is an exporter of terrorism!!! State terrorism.
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hIC
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Hic
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ask the Greek, Italian and Spainish worker movements after WWII if America is a supporter of terrorism…or El Savador, Guetamala, Iran, or Chile, Nicuragua…maybe run down a Sioux somehwere and inquire of them?
this is new how? Terrorism is statecraft where pure Power is unable or proves ineffective
I’ve been working for the bankers
all the live long days.
Can’t you hear
the money flowing
through their hands always? apologies to “I’ve been working on the railroad”
oH AND CHHOKER IS ME SIR NAME
I could Sign Bonn wit a hic
We will see how it pans out
@Geek
State and terror are synonyms in my dictionnary. The State is the enemy of ordinary people. Always has been the case historically. And thu ultimate enemy of humanity is the Empire and the banksters.
And mees gonna paint ta real Sh!t history
Tas ta theeme WTC Afghan War Iraq War and tat Sh!t
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Includin Bailout SH!t
Helicopter Berny also tear in me Mind along wit Turbo Timmy
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Hic
@ julian nawrath
yer new here almost everyone here follows Tarpley
Marc Faber , Peter Schiff , AJ Ron Paul , Farage missin his first name ahh Nigel
@ julian nawrath
So dont be aggressive here buddy
Come in Peace or the regulars will get together and show ya a ting or two
Hic
Includin ME
I was wrong.
EVERYBODY is going to react to the title of the memo without actually reading it.
The memo says nothing about state-sponsored terrorism. When that’s pointed out, after people have had a chance to rant, it will undermine the assertion that the U.S. is involved in state-sponsored terrorism, i.e., it will make the CIA look better.
You are in assumption stage tat you know tee most
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Hic
Another major gain in silver, whats it about 5% in two days? if it was gld it would be news.
@ Bonn
Ha ha…..OK..Glad to Hear That….Everybody Waky…..Goody Goody!
@ julian nawrath
We are all awkake here
We Know tey wanna incorprate Slavery again
WTF names yer clan free Masons whats wit tat ; tat means you were opp. of free meanin Slave masons
tey so Stupid
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Hic
Is it possible that this guy is actually a CIA provocateur asset…?
@Dan
Don’t forget 111 time more paper silver that the REAL STUFF ! It would be pleasurable to bust these sun of btches from JP Morgan with their titanic short positions. The paper silver buyers will soon be murdered. I expect them to be freesed in paper by the COMEX and the SEC to protext the JP Morgan bastards. BUY ONLY PHYSICAL !
I thought the actual content of the memo was pretty boring.
@ Tamir
Who ?
911 is important but what is Steven E. Jones role?
how is cold fusion connected to this?
termite my fanny!
How about a little depleted uranium in your water and your food ?
Fuckin USA NAZIS.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pg2NHfoC2pc
By the way it’s also killing all the US troops and the NATO Nazis using this garbadge.
@ Tamir
If ya insinuatin mees I freakin believe in Aliens on Earth buddy
I have circumstatial Proof if ya’d listen to mees
from me research we been through tis sh!t some 4 or 20 times
and we at tee Cusp of de-population again
So I am Sh!t Frightened as hell
I just use me common sense I never ever wanted to kill anyone fer whatever reason Whats up wit tees wars who is behind tis Sh!t
Hic
@Marc A … DU … yes, I knew this.
I wouldn’t put it past them (Corporations) to get rid of their nuclear waste that way . Of course, the MSM plays this down.
Exporter of terror? Exporter of freedom i would say. The US saved the entire European continent in WW2, gave the Japanese what they deserved and at the same time saved 90% of their population making the Emperor declare surrender after Hiroshima and Nagasaki instead of having to totally wipe out the nation. They stood up to communism and now they fight the terrible ideology of Islam.
Land of the free.
Four biggest producers of Depleted Uranium amunition.
Israel
United Kingdom
Canada (yeah Canadian hypocrits)
USA
State-corporate crime = terrorism:
financial – economic – political – parliamentarry – governmental – institutional – democratic – global – constitutional – judicial – social – religious – just people…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State-corporate_crime
http://pollutico.com
Oh I can tell yas who behind tis Sh!t wars and all
THE MSM MEDIA IS OWNED BY TIS DIPSH!T FAMILYS ITS A 300 YEAR PLAN hmmmm errr I TRACED IT TO 5000 YEAR OLD PLAN
Do you Peeps tink tey just Gonna walk away from a 300 year old or what I believe is a 5000 year old plan of slavery ????
@Bronxy …
… it is not as simple as that … read Griffin’s “The Creature from Jekyll Island”, and then Jon Perkin’s “Confessions of an Economic Hitman”.
By the way it’s also killing all the US troops and the NATO Nazis using this garbadge. Marc Authier
And it is a waste of a valuable nuclear fuel too.
WikiLeaks is now poised to be a wholesale distributor of Limited Hangout.
The US saved the entire European continent in WW2, … Bronxy
The Great Depression, which Bernanke admits was caused by the Fed, was a major cause of WWII. Also, US entry into WWI was financed by the Fed and led to Germany’s humiliating defeat which is another cause of WWII.
I’d like to believe the US exports freedom but it is more likely to me that it exports banksterism.
The summary is utterly banal. It has very little to do with ‘finance, markets and scandal’, or ‘rigged market capitalism’.
Not worth the time (or risk) to download the document.
Yes, it all comes from within the US frame of reference for what is ‘export of terrorism’, itself an Owellian construct.
The premise is ”Contrary to common belief…” and the conclusion is the CIA’s. If I cared to base my view on either, I might consider the document significant.
As has been commented I like the naivety of the assumption in the memo that only actions of individual US citizens will give the rest of the world the view that the US is an exporter of terrorism and not the terrorist actions of the State its self. Actions that have been well documented since the 50′s.
The truth is well known to the State that peoples view of the US is an exporter of terrorism is down to it’s polices as internal documents year in year out report e.g The Defense Science Board Task Force Report on Strategic Communication (2004)
“American direct intervention in the Muslim world has paradoxically elevated the stature of and support for radical Islamists, while diminishing support for the United States to single-digits in some Arab states. Muslims “do not hate our freedom,” but rather, they hate our policies.”
As for the political fall out from this, I can see this being used to support the Administration’s polices and further crackdowns by whipping up a media storm over home-grown lone crazies.
On a passing note…..
‘British spy’ found dead identified as Foreign Office worker
“An MI6 worker whose body was found stuffed into a sports bag in the bath of his London flat was identified locally today as Gareth Williams, a 31-year-old Foreign Office employee.”
http://tinyurl.com/2etjnsj
… and make no mistake, it’s SEC-Fed
Greece’s jog down neoliberalism’s road to serfdom has accelerated to a flat out run.
http://www.automatedtrader.net/real-time-dow-jones/13456/greece-to-appoint-3-critical-privatization-advisers-_source
ATHENS -(Dow Jones)- Greece will appoint three foreign international banks as advisers Thursday to carry out due diligence and make recommendations about privatizations of banks and potentially state-owned enterprises, a senior person familiar with the matter said.
@F, Beard
USA financed Adolf Hitler and Stalin ! USA finaced Hitler because it was good for the business. They did not save Europe.
They did like with Irak Iran war. Financed Saddam Hussein to attack Iran. And then just as Saddam was winning they used the Isrel broker to rearm iran ! Cynical bastards. That’s the truth.
Anthony Sutton books talk about all these strange financial relations between Wall Street and the Nazis but also with the Bolcheviks.
LIBERTY my ass ! Specually with what is going on in this country. Bush family and Rockerfeller are good examples of the shits running the place. In realuty USA couldn’t care a damn about liberty and freedom.
http://www.antonysutton.com/
@F. Beard,
“The Great Depression, which Bernanke admits was caused by the Fed, was a major cause of WWII.”
Bernanke is just repeating what he heard from his hero Milton Friedman, who flat out lied when he blamed the Fed for the Great Depression. Friedman pointed to M1 to claim that the Fed tightened monetary policy when the data for M0, which is what the Fed actually controlls, loosened inthe same period. M1 contracted because banks stopped lending and the people stopped keeping their money in banks.
Fisher and Keynes had much better explanation for the Great Depression, and they still ignored that the banksters were the real cause (the Fed exists to be the “government” scapegoat for the actions of rentier bankers).
@Mongo
Also exporter of death and inflation. Goes with the product.
“Exporter of freedom i would say.”
Somebody has been ringing the liberty bell . . .
These aren’t shackles. They’re freedom bracelets!
… and they still ignored that the banksters were the real cause (the Fed exists to be the “government” scapegoat for the actions of rentier bankers). Tao Jonesing
Yep, I never forget that my local banker is in the counterfeiting business. However, the Fed allows the bankers to lever up much more than they could without it.
“Only after repeated high-level British requests and then London’s
support for our bombing of Libya in the 1980s did the US Government crack down on Irish-American support for the IRA.”
Nice little exchange of favours mentioned there. I’d suggest from that sentence alone that the US welcomed the US exported funding of terrorism in UK to then use as a bargaining tool. That ‘Special Relationship’ is certainly very special!
Not only does the U.S. export death through weaponry, we do it in other ways as well….
Losing the arms race with nature….
Most of you have heard that many formerly treatable diseases are now becoming resistant to penicillin and other antibiotics. Versions of TB and Syphilis comes to mind here, and there are others. In a like sense, our ability to fend off parasites to our food crops is also waning. Weeds are becoming resistant to herbicides, and this is forcing the big Agribusiness firms to genetically modify our core food crops to handle high levels of herbicides. These modified food crops are now suspected of being long term threats to the health of the consumers who routinely ingest them. GMO corn has shown a strong capacity to damage the livers and kidneys of lab animals after only 90 days consumption, but everyday, Americans eat vast amounts of it as corn chips, corn flakes and other products. Genetically modified Soybeans have been linked to drops in male fertility, and the list of GM crops is gradually increasing as corporate farmers use ever larger quantities of various poisons to maintain yields.
The point being, in the end, they will have to Genetically modify us in order to allow us to eat all of this crap without dying.
What of collateral damage? Most wars have some of that. How about the honeybees, whose numbers are in rapid decline, and though a fungus and some viruses have been implicated in the decline, there are questions as to why the honeybee populations are succumbing to pathogens that have always been around. Pesticides are being mentioned more and more often as the culprit behind the Bee’s inability to fight off these fatal disorders..
So the future looks grim, for both disease control using antibiotics and for human nutrition, as we gradually poison the food chain with genetically freaky plants we can’t ingest without damage, and then there’s the poor bees, losing the race to survive and losing the ability to help produce much of our food through pollination.
USA financed Adolf Hitler and Stalin ! USA finaced Hitler because it was good for the business. Marc Authier
Yes, I agree. The US is of, by and for bankers.
Here’s an interesting. Why I hate In G,O,D, we trust,
http://trineday.com/paypal_store/product_pages/Fighting_for_GOD.html
@F. Beard,
“However, the Fed allows the bankers to lever up much more than they could without it.”
I don’t think the Fed has much real control over how much banks lever up. Take a look at Hyman Minsky’s “Stabilizing an Unstable Economy” for an interesting take on how bankers make things unstable by “innovating” to avoid regulatory oversight and rules (e.g., reserve requirements).
And when we didn’t have a central bank and were on a gold standard, we still had episodes of financial crises caused by financed speculation, which should be criminalized.
The Fed exists merely to distract us from understanding who is really to blame. The Fed provides “plausible deniability” for the bankers.
@harry_w
Yes, it all comes from within the US frame of reference for what is ‘export of terrorism’, itself an O[r]wellian construct.
Remember that by any current US definition, Orwell would have been considered a terrorist for fighting in the Spanish Civil War – only depends on which side the US government of the time decides to support.
Irish-American support for the IRA is not the same as US funding.
Babies being implanted chips at birth. Yeah by a US hospital, TODAY
For a lot of people USA is really runned by SATAN. United SATAN of America. I an not a religious maniac but I truly believe Washington is satanic city and the courntry is under the influence of the Devil.
http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/microchips_in_babies.htm
And when we didn’t have a central bank and were on a gold standard, we still had episodes of financial crises caused by financed speculation, which should be criminalized. Tao Jonesing
I am adamantly opposed to a government backed gold standard. Gold is an illusion fostered by the bankers for their own benefit.
I give 50-50 odds the U.S. eventually breaks up. Regional centers form, and issue their own currency…
@Mark Lytle, Re: bees
A bee keeper in the UK was on the news today (not major news but an aside article) who says he’s been able to breed bees that have overcome the virus! They have developed behaviour where they clean each other of the mite that carries the virus (incidentally, it’s not actually the virus that kills them supposedly – the virus takes up enough of their immune system’s resources that they succumb to ordinary bee illnesses).
How did he do it? He left them alone – stopped using all chemicals including even the virus vaccine and they developed their own behavioural patterns to combat it.
Darwinism in full force there! A while down the line when the virus is forgotten, people will be wondering why bees exhibit this strange behaviour.. and creationists will be saying it is by god’s design because their dull brains cannot imagine any other reason how this could be!
Has Bronxy had her(?) brain in the brain-washing machine for too long?
@Mark
yeah its true, but Satan is not a bad guy when you get to know him and he pays for medical and dental and even daycare.
@Nat
Good to hear that, the bee thing has been scary…
Remember Henry Ford and Hitler admired each other. Alfred Sloan the CEO of General Motors and Ford were both semites who didn’t oppose the Nazis until after Pearl Harbor.
This one’s for Max:
http://english.ruvr.ru/2010/08/24/17089399.html
“Medvedev shows interest in U2 leader’s ideas”
I still avoid corn products, though…
.. and creationists will be saying it is by god’s design because their dull brains cannot imagine any other reason how this could be! Nat
I have quite a good imagination or did when I was making my mind up about the existence of a Creator. Life does change and adapt but random mutation and natural selection is not adequate to explain the changes. Also, a great deal of flexibility appears to be built into our genome. Where did that come from?
@MarkLytle
I agree on the possible breakup of the US or maybe a return to a confederation type model like we had from 1776-1789. We do the deep South and New England have in common? not much really when you think about. I wonder if the Latinos will stake their claims to the Southwest or large parts of it?
http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Health-Care-IT/VeriChip-Sells-First-Baby-Protection-System-in-Talks-with-Military/
Terror sells anf besides that it will be more easy to process all these people in the concentration camps. How’s that for nice news coming out of United Satan of America. As usual Always the same usual satanic shit working for the Pentagon.
@Illinois
Yep, that’s how I see it too…
@Bronxy
Irish-American support for the IRA is not the same as US funding.
No-one here has said it is. Turning a blind eye to it and then using it as currency in negotiation could be considered by any reasonable person as condoning it, or at least as good as condoning it.
Certainly, as applied to citizens of the US and UK, being in full knowledge of this funding of terrorism and failing to do anything to stop it is a crime under current terrorism laws – people have been jailed in the UK for it.
Here ya go Stacy, more grist for the anti-CO2 mill:
Promoting Climate Science for the Public Good
Partnering with Americans from all walks of life to set the record straight on global warming pollution and the urgent need to rein it in. from http://www.ucsusa.org/global_warming/science_and_impacts/science/weight-of-the-evidence.html
Here’s an article that should bridge science and religion:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-organization
Some will call it self-organization, some will call it God, but either way, stuff happens…
All we need to do is recognize the phenomena, the cause is opinion.
It’s more (and some ways less) then Darwinism and is also involved in non-Biologic systems.
“but I truly believe Washington is satanic city and the courntry is under the influence of the Devil.” Marc Authier
Ever seen inverted pentagram and all the other symbols in the streets of DC?
http://www.google.com/images?expIds=17259,17315,18167,23628,23670,25834,25901,26182&sugexp=ldymls&pq=inverted+pentagram+in+dc&xhr=t&q=inverted%20pentagram%20in%20dc&cp=24&hl=en&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&biw=962&bih=543
And an interesting documentary on this subject.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=409TSeee5U4
For my archive of news and opinions on Wikileaks see here:
http://webabuser.blogspot.com/search/label/Wikileaks
(in short: Wikileaks is a blatant psy-op for fools)
@AchtungAffen
This one’s for Max:
http://english.ruvr.ru/2010/08/24/17089399.html
“Medvedev shows interest in U2 leader’s ideas”
Haha.. Bono’s saying ‘Please please put all you can into Palm Inc! Err, it will save the starving people of the world’
‘U2 leader‘? Odd translation, verging on a Freudian slip..
the US govt is corrupt but releasing these documents may allow targeting of locals who are mentioned in reports. also, it gives foreign powers a deep inner journal that reflects the entire us military, so basically, the entire us military structure is exposed, if one reads between the lines, it’s downplayed in the us media, but every intelligence agency in the world is micro analyzing those documents to unravel us methods, etc..
maybe it will help put an end to wars of this type.. like the pentagon papers did. the fact that major govt spokespeople went on the news and repeatedly said ‘nothing new’ means those docs have huge value.. or the schills wouldn’t be out downplaying it.
thanks for the economic insights etc..
peace
Self-organization is insufficient to explain the origin of life. This issue was dealt with years ago. Dr. Hugh Ross at http://www.reasons.org could explain it to you.
The US also funded the Serbian war with Bosnia in the early 90′s. Kissenger went on Charlie Rose’s show and talked/bragged about his part in funding the conflict. Also know as the “Clinton Debacle”.
http://www.barnsdle.demon.co.uk/bosnia/clindeb.html
Pt. 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CV1qdmIRXJA
It’s also quite odd that Henry Kissenger would go with Nixon to China to visit Mao quite often…. Maybe Kissenger helped fund Mao’s rise to power as well?
Spanish Day Trader in New York doesn’t even know who the IRS is, yet he is sent a $175 Million dollar Tax Bill by the IRS.
http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2010/08/24/2010-08-24_thought_you_had_irs_problems_failed_daytrader_nailed_with_172m_bill.html#ixzz0xcaSNfyW
Possibly a good article to mention on the next Keiser Report or On the Edge, maybe, possibly….
@Beard
Nobody knows that. It’s all opinion.
Either point of view could be right.
@Nat
Does Bono that prick has something to say about unemployment in Ireland ?
U2 name comes from the unemployment form you have to fill in Ireland when you are unemployed. These Russian leaders are just plain dumb. and totally lack imagination. Always borrowing foreign models and fashions from other countries instead of thinking about Russia and its problems. I am no fan of the Kremlin gang. How unoriginal and uninspiring. Not surprised.
@F. Beard
Life does change and adapt but random mutation and natural selection is not adequate to explain the changes. Also, a great deal of flexibility appears to be built into our genome. Where did that come from?
Life without a creator, with just sets of simple patterns and chaos and millions of years of time and change is so amazing and beautiful and complex.
As many people’s imaginations fail them, their ego’s take solace in simpler ideas that they can feel on top of. I’m not saying I have a deep, extensive imagination any more so than anyone else but I am happy for that lack of understanding to wash over me without a finalised solution. That in itself allows my imagination to deepen as my mind is open to each new amazing bit of information I absorb, even if it contradicts a previous idea – a new idea forms that begins to combine the two. For me, to stop at one concrete idea of how life is is almost to admit defeat, to think that your imagination could cope with any more.
Perhaps the mistake people make when contemplating the meaning of life, making sense of it all, is not in the final conclusion they arrive at but to arrive at any conclusion at all!
@Awho
Kissinger can’t travel in most South American countries. He is considered a criminal against humnanity and would be arrested for mass murder The guy is godamn nazi. By the way his german accent is bullshit. The guy comes from Younkers. But he’s a Nazi and a war criminal.
@Nat,
I believe Life did arise out of chaos. It just turns out that this universe is too young (14 billion years) and/or too small for it for it to have originated here.
“You are My witnesses,” declares the LORD, and My servant whom I have chosen, so that you may know and believe Me and understand that I am He. Before Me there was no God formed, and there will be none after Me. Isaiah 43:10
@Marc Authier
And I thought UB40 were unimaginative in choosing a band name..
@doomandbloom – that’s a comment
@Bonn – yes
@Geek Boy – true
@Mongo – good point
@Tamir – yes
@harry_w – “scandal”
Bronxy I think the Fox News forum wants you back on there. The American Wehrmacht needs all the support it can get on the Ostfront.
Wikileaks is just so cool! The name is Julian, Julian Assange, I like it stirfried, not cooked!
The American Wehrmacht needs all the support it can get on the Ostfront. Paddy
Yes, America has caught the “uber alles” disease. I once had it myself till I wised up and saw the US had not enough moral superiority to allow it to impose its ways on others.
Good morning Stacy.
@ F. Beard
“You are My witnesses,” declares the LORD, and My servant whom I have chosen, so that you may know and believe Me and understand that I am He. Before Me there was no God formed, and there will be none after Me. Isaiah 43:10
Well, I stand corrected..
If only I’d read what this Mr Isaiah wrote a few hundred years ago instead of spending time taking interest in recent discoveries of how similar the lives our ancestors were a million years before Mr Isaiah even put pen to paper, a million years before any reference to Christian gods appear in human records.
Incidentally, does Mr Isaiah list any references in his writings? How good is his source material? I’m presuming he states this is a factual account he is writing of in the first place? And I presume this is a direct and accurate translation from an original text rather than something that has been re-written and re-written from a re-written translation of yet another re-written text? I also presume there is some kind of background given on Mr Isaiah – any political influences or on anyone’s payroll?
A million years is a looong time – more than really our imaginations can cope with as it’s too far beyond our personal experiences. Religious teachings on the other hand are all, in all faiths, quite graspable and neatly within realms of personal experiences or extrapolations thereof. Funny that! – they all give off a stench of being created by humans themselves. Christianity, as any other, unsurprisingly toke many ideas from the surrounding cultures of where it arose and remains very different from religions and cultures from other parts of the world where it couldn’t be influenced from. Then, when it spread via Empires and wars and trade etc it evolved, changed, and absorbed ideas and influence of the new cultures it met. Again, this process mirrors the evolution of other areas of human culture.
Religions are the creations of humans – they are like gazing into the navel of human culture instead of outwardly looking in wonder at what is outside of our collective realm. That’s where in my opinion they stifle imagination or are safe havens for those who self-limit their own.
They have some good points too of course.
Chaa.. dont’ know why I wrote that last post – please ignore it everyone!
I can feel myself rambling and going off on one – must be bedtime!
The US of A was founded (stolen) by terrorist and nothing has changed. Opium and the slave trade was big business. All that money gave the psychopaths a head start in creating chaos in everything they touched. The little guy never knew what hit him. Drugs and money laundering (banking) set the stage. Secret societies established or controlled every system of our government. All has been corrupted. Time for a totally new system.
(in short: Wikileaks is a blatant psy-op for fools)
Yep Tarpley see it that way as well. Lets see if that wiki guy lives – I think he will. I think the Andrew Maguire one was bollocks as well, but very effective – GATA posted in detail how to make a mint on siliver every month and therefore get the Govts job done – brilliant. Ted Butler rants and ravers about JP Morgan and nothing – why its working, for now. But lets see come Friday. QE2 ?
@Paddy
Bronxy works for Hitlerian Homeland Security. Looking for these mean dirty Arrrrrraaaaaaab Taliban teeeeerrrrrrrrarists. Hey Bronxy. It’s your lovin government that blew up the World Trade Center and blew up the Pentagon. Can’t still fing the plave that hit the Pentagon. All vaporized and melted. A first in world history.
@Paddy
Bronxy works for Homeland Security. We are all nut case. Don’t know is crazier ? Can’t wait to see the ‘Enemy belligerent act’ being implemented. That way Bronxy will be able to fill all these empty FEMA camps. Bronxy lives in the Bronx ? The is cool film about the Bronx. It’s called ‘The Siege’ wuth Bruce Willis. Psychotic USA.
@Marc Authier Yeah, He definitely is a criminal and a mass murderer. I could definitely see the South American Countries not wanting him there, seeing as I’m sure he was partial (if not completely) responsible for the ‘Banana Republic’ down there. It’s crazy though, how he and the Clinton Administration sent fundings to the CIA to then spend that money on ‘training’ and radicalizing Polish and Slovak ‘soldiers’ to help the US take out that entire region and over throw the countries in that region. The Clinton Debacle was also one of the US’s most expensive ‘short wars’. It was also what led to Russia Joining NATO, seeing as NATO was created to protect North America from Russia during the cold war, it’s sort of odd for them to suddenly join NATO, but I guess the US decided to use them as ‘help’ with fighting off the last of the Balkans in that region.
http://www.barnsdle.demon.co.uk/bosnia/clindeb.html
more info can be found at this link.
Assange would have been dead meat or disappeared long ago ……..
He is a plant
It seems to me that this is another accidental leak on purpose. This report states nothing that we didn’t allready know (a trademark of Wiki leaks scoops), but still has the potential to influence policy making.
Much ado about nothing.
I still don’t trust Wiki leaks.
Reminds of the GLADIO Network. CIA ancestor of Al-CIA-aida. Same godamn USA Nazi shit.
Use Italian mafiosos and macaronis Mussolini fascists to murder hundrends of innocent Italians and blame it on the Red Brigades and the italien communists. On 911 they did on thousands of innocent US citizens. It’s more and more clear. I could just vomit on the CIA when I know this and most assholes don’t even care and still believe in the official version,
This was done in Italy, not a south american banana republic. Imagine what they did in Chili and Argentina ? Or in Congo ? Yeah well we know. Finally USA is a lot like Stalin’s Russia. The ends justify the means.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6703838290529161821#
Red terror is USA runned.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6703838290529161821#docid=3409375633223151728
Paet 2 And then you have the ‘RED’ Terriorism. Replace it today by Al-CIA-aida and you get the same godamn racket. The Soviets are gone. The CIA and all the parasites had to replace it by a new enemy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NDokr0X7vw
The state within the state. It’s old news. And it’s getting worse by the day.
Specially with third world war looming. USA is the best when it comes to training terrorists. Old news indeed.
Increasingly it looks like Wikileaks is merely a creation of rogue elements in the NSA who just don’t like the status quo. This might explain almost complete lack of 9/11 evidence.
@ Stacy
What’s the “scandal”? That’s the CIA recognises US hypocrisy regarding it’s own Orwellian concept about the ‘export of terrorism’?
And this is “contrary to popular belief”, and based on long known examples often raised in debate with Americans anyway.
It’s a non-story really.
The political logic of any ‘scandal’ implied (if one accepts the premises implicit in the document), is for more stringent surveillance of US citizens suspected of ‘exporting terrorism’ in ways analogous to the examples given in the document.
You want global warming look at HAARP. Melt an iceberg. No problem. Would the globalist do it? YES!!
I read and hear that the globe is cooling.