Stacy Summary: Okay Geek and Dork, your thoughts? And h/t all who linked to the second article.
- Ireland’s ‘Vicious Circle’ Leaves Banks Facing Higher Debt Cost
- If it pays to riot in Europe, should the Irish act a little more Greek?
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@Stacy,
Evans-Pritchard is ignoring the greater loss of sovereignty, to the EU and IMF, faced by Greece in order to get 0.48% lower rates.
It’s a fairly standard piece for the The Telegraph, in this case using Ireland to point-score against the EU. Does AEP now endorses riot to temper oligarchy? [Like the characterisation of C18th England as 'aristocracy tempered by the mob']
Probably not, so it’s really just a debating point.
http://ftalphaville.ft.com/blog/tag/ireland/
http://namawinelake.wordpress.com/
See ‘A few lingering questions for S&P, and indeed NAMA.‘
http://www.finfacts.ie/irishfinancenews/Irish_Economy/index.shtml
See ‘Standard & Poor’s downgrade maybe extreme but 2 years after bank guarantee slow-motion Irish response fuels market uncertainty‘
The Irish believe in Purgatory and suffering. The Pilgrims believed in the Protestant Work ethic and the Jews are forbidden to charge their fellow countrymen interest.
friend of mine says that he and his family would never switch their allegiance from Fianna Fail no matter how corrupt or incompetent they are. And he isnt unique. This is how the loyalists of the 2 main parties in this country think. We’re well and truly fucked & will shortly revert to our historical role as the laughing stock of Europe, if we’re not there already.
Obedient Irish
Punished to keep them down
But Greeks say: I’m free
The Hindenburg omen
http://finance.yahoo.com/tech-ticker/the-hindenburg-omen-is-scary-but-so-are-the-fundamentals-535367.html?tickers=^DJI,^GSPC,XLF,FXE,XHB,TLT,GLD
and why is there a PMF film about tabasco, or is it, or is that just a strange choice of logo for it… Will I be able to learn why you Euros are so obsessed with it? It’s not even good, it’s not even hot sauce, it’s just vinegar with a real weak bite to it. It’s not even spicy enough to call it hot sauce.
GVT has a good video there, closer to his home apparently, more passionate. Not for money..
Anology is the science of similarity. Makes the scientist an analog..Then there are people who write about assholes (Analogists, Rectologists), but the two seldom mix..
@fflopez,… Say Hi from all of us,..and explain that negotiations are on the table with mArx and Stasi, to reinstate her back into the fold,… : )
**Warning** Existing Home Sales Plunge 27.2%: Housing Tsunami Collapse Coming! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfb3q_yJxxY
This lad would sort the Irish IMO..
http://www.youtube.com/user/jbyeats#p/a/u/1/O2JNAy990TA
oh I almost forgot, she said if you want intellectual porn go to climatebabes.com
thank god. guys a friend of mine told me to contact you guys.
It seems Mr. Keiser or Mrs. Herbert has killed mae. So she says hello and good bye.
sorry guys I am behind a firewall. can you read my messages/
@Marc,
I imagine that your genes would have to be modified. Do you wish to have gills while you’re at it too?
you guys are awesome
@F Beard
It’s fleuve Saint-Laurent. Stephen Harper is in the far North dancisng with the Inuits and eating raw whale bladder. Yum yum.
Party pooper ! I want my anti-freeze vaccine !
Silver is just going fantastic this morning.
@F. Beard
And no heating bills to pay.
Think about the advantages. I could swin in the fleuce Saint-Laurent bare naked at minus 30 in january. Can’t wait.
Can’t wait to receive my new genetically modified anti-freeze vaccine. Marc Aurther
I don’t do vaccines. I’m outraged that they use mercury to preserve them when simple refrigeration should do the trick.
All these new “discoveries”, IMO, are actually obsolete in the higher echelons of science.
Be it, technology, biology,..or in fact, any ‘logy!
@F Beard
Can’t wait to receive my new genetically modified anti-freeze vaccine. Don’t you ?
Why Fish Don’t Freeze in the Arctic Ocean: Chemists Unmask Natural Antifreeze
Tesla invented the most important and useful thing for civilization. The alternative current really transformed the world. Marc Authier
Yep. He sold those patents too cheaply ($1,000,000?) but Tesla was an idealist. I don’t know much about Haarp.
@F. Beard
Tesla thought about that concept a long time ago. This guy was a extra terrestrial intelligence. I know of no scientific genius of this type. A shame he hadn’t a germanic or anglo-saxon sounding name and was jewish. Oh yeah it helps. Tesla invented the most important and useful thing for civilization. The alternative current really transformed the world.That and so many inventions. Doesn’t the famous Haarp work on this principle ?
Electricity Collected from the Air Could Become the Newest Alternative Energy Source
@F, Beard
They are not today. Believe me. Specially with that hungarian CIA trained poodle Sarkozy.
Pretentious pricks. Marc Authier
Maybe so but sometimes they are the only effective counterweight to the US and England. That’s why Americans are taught to not like the French. And they must be upset that the lingua franca is English, not French!
Vive la France, though I might not like to live there (excepting for Paris, maybe).
@Marc Authier
I know, I am from Mars. Time is near.
Ok. Let’s be serious. Who is next to be downgraded and trashed ?
Hey Mike ! Gold is not getting killed !
What a stupid article that one from telegraph! First, Papandreou has nothing to do with the riots. He would be the happiest little PM if poor Greeks would shut up and pay his friends the money they want for services rendered to themselves. Second, Greeks should have overthrown his behind and thrown him in a cell. Third, the Irish should stop being such sheep and quit paying those pimps. It seems that pimping is ez 4 some people.
@kosta-kosta
Maybe but it’s damn fun speaking sufficiently well to say to your colonizer, I am going to chop you head off and go to hell. Besides that colonialism is universal you know. One day USA will also be occupied and colonized by Matians.
Mr. Kim, who reportedly dislikes flying, travels aboard his luxurious armoured personal train. The two governments do not officially announce the visits until after he has returned home.
Smart Boy Kim Jong – II; tee Ex-Polish rulin Govt. Coulda learnt a ting or 2 from tis Dude
Hic
@F, Beard
Hey. I am not French. I can’t stand the pretentious bastards. Oh vous au Québec vous un accent bizarre. Pretentious pricks. I just could just piss on the French, specially that anglo caca eater Sarkozy. Dumb fuck who knows nothing about UK or USA. THey are even more guillible and colonized than us when it comes to the caniche language.
Speaking English, Spanish, French or Chinese as a foreign language has got to do with colonization and imperialism. Nothing else.
The RDFI chip in the arse is fro next week. Marc Authier
Since many Americans have not thrown away their Bibles, they are familiar with the concept “666″. Quite a few of US will chose death over such a thing.
http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/europe/08/26/sweden.wikileaks/?hpt=Sbin
The founder and editor of whistle-blower website WikiLeaks says Swedish authorities still haven’t given him details of the crime he is alleged to have committed.
“The present investigation of issue (there are no charges), is one alleged non-sexual ‘harassment,’” Julian Assange wrote Thursday in an e-mail to CNN. “I have no idea what this is and no details have been provided to us.”
Swedish authorities arrested Assange “in absentia” over the weekend on two charges — rape and molestation, a non-sexual charge that is similar to harassment.
The chief prosecutor has since revoked the arrest warrant and dropped the rape charge, though Assange still faces the molestation allegation.
Wats up wit Sweden what bones does it hafta pick Wit Assange ?????
& Kim Jong-Il spotted in China?
http://www.nationalpost.com/news/world/Jong+spotted+China/3445278/story.html
Hmmm errrrrr Sometin is Brewin !!!!
@Marc Authier,
I often thought I should learn some foreign languages but all the ferigners (except those pesky French) kept learning English so eventually I thought, “Why bother?”
Fundementally USA is being handed over to the brown shirts. Hey brown shirts everywhere. Gibberish USA Goebellisation. It makes a lot of sense. Enjoy your freedom of expression in the USA and the rest of the brown world while it last F Bearded. And sorry me speakie caniche languague very badly.
The RDFI chip in the arse is fro next week. The Furher is for after the november elections.
@F. Bearded
It’s advanced gaeilic F. Bearded.:)
Your name seems fishy. Are you a Ta-Libaneese with a F Beard ? Translate. I love to massacre english sometimes. It’s tres mucho mnoga amusing. Hell ! The news is just so depressing. Anything emanating from the caniche speaking world reaks of brown shirts. Ir just smell decompostion.
Wow it just struck me
http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/pandora/forest_service_c130s.html
thats where the Drugs are made in Forrests
Exerpts
NOTE: Louis Tambs was the same U.S. Ambassador connected to the revelations arising from the La Penca bombing in Nicaragua and an alleged plot by the CIA to murder Tambs using the services of CIA/Oliver North asset John Hull and blame it on the Sandinistas.]
“I questioned DoJ about the drug links and was assured that the transfers were above board and not drug related,” Eitel continued. “I accepted their explanation for a while but in 1996 I did a data base search on a major drug trafficker named Luis Carlos Herrera-Lizcano who was John Ford’s partner way back to the original C-130 transfers out of Australia in 83-84. Herrera was the owner and CEO of Trans Latin Air and in 1994 he was indicted by the U.S. Attorney in Chicago for using C-130s to move billions of dollars of cocaine into the U.S.”
Herrera entered into a plea agreement in 1996 and admitted to having trafficked in drugs since the early and mid eighties. According to both American and Mexican newspaper accounts, as well as records in federal court, Herrera’s aircraft came from T&G and Woody Grantham.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6805063692754011230#
Make it bleed baby ! The process is like a death by a thousand cuts.
In the case of Ireland and in the case of KGB runned USA.
Since some folks here are reverting to their native gibberish (non-English) here I added “gtranslate 0.7″ to Firefox. It works just fine so far.
The Irish seem well conditionned for a good potatoe-bankster extermination faimine. Fantastic. They are still trained. The masters in London will be glad to hear such good news.
Next week the US Nazi Supreme Court will give the right to the State to monitor the number of times you go to the toilet and havve sex. Only one sexual position allowed in the bed and it mustn’t last longer than 10 minutes or you pay a fee of 200$ to the order of Bill Clienton and Al Capone Gore. Delirious. It’s really about estrablishing a Nazi police state. Alex Jones wasn’t joking about the bastards running this crappy American whore house.
Where’s that punt Bob Gelded when you need him?
Obey Rules :->Obey Chain of Command :->dont Question ta Opium passin behind yer arse onto tee C130 @ tee end of ta runway
Freakin Twerps
Hic
Morgan Kelly revisited (22nd May 2010)
Burden of Irish debt could yet eclipse that of Greece
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/opinion/2010/0522/1224270888132.html
IT IS no longer a question of whether Ireland will go bust, but when
Morgan Kelly for The Keiser Report! Attack formation Delta – go now!
[email protected]
Tel: +353 1 706 8611
Guilty until proven non guilty. Oh can you see (USA SLAVE) you belong to me the USA Nazi state. That’s about it.
” & If tear is a Day of Reckonin once peeps pass to tee otter side I am gonna be Laughin me ass off”
lolololol
ROFL
Hic
@Bonn
You have to mad indeed. The Constitution is being gang raped by godamn Nazi USA judges. No surprise with eugenist banksters Nazis running the place. Might as well profit of freedom while it last. Don’t forget what Nazi bastards like Kissinger did in South America. Chili USA style all over again.
Just wondered if Human Oraganizations have something to say about this fuckin country violation ALL your private rights in the name of Nationa Security. Rape your body. Rape your privacy. The next step will indeed raping your orifices in the name of National Security. Like in Chili. Tracking all citizens. Naked body scanning all citizens. No place to hide. You have from now on NO HUMAN RIGHTS whatsover.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuEzd3YOCGE
@ Gussy
So true and tey keep showin tat Commando Trainin crap on Discovery Channel tryin to fool 17 year Olds into Joinin ta MIC
Twerps
Hic
@Bonn
Hey. It’s you freakin USA Nazi lovin government. American fascist bastards.
Democracy is DEAD in the USA. Fuckin American slobs. And you are going to speard you fuckin Nazi cancer.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuEzd3YOCGE
“There are worries that the cost of banking recapitalization is now beyond the reach of the government.” Bill Blain
Can’t Ireland just print some money to payoff its debt? Oops! No it can’t. That’s what it gets for yielding its sovereignty.
Borrowing money is absurd anyway since it is mostly electronic booking entries or pieces of paper. Can’t the Irish government create those itself?
Shouldn’t the private sector be able to do the same?
So now the whole world enters a depression just because of accounting entries? That is beyond absurd.
@jischinger
The Fighting Irish thing is/was propaganda. If your looking for fighting Irish I know this great place in Dublin called Copper Face Jack’s.
@seosamhogallunai
As a country you need to be smart or you’ll end up poor..
What happen to the fighting Irish?
They joined the British army and are fighting in Afghanistan.
@ Max /Stacy
I am 100 % sure tey attackin the ObamaDeception Server
Tey overwhelmin it better ask AJ to Check it up
Toe I tink he reads me Comments
I was ta one who suggested
HAARP ;->Pakistan Floodin ;-> IMF Loan ;-> Pakistans natural resoucer in Pvt Globalist Corporations I just heard one caller say that
Hic
What happen to the fighting Irish?
Wow
is anyone having trouble wit tis Link
http://www.youtube.com/user/ChangeDaChannel
And Me net is in Snail Speed right Now I am trying to Load Obama Deception its takin fer Ever
Never had that Problem So they are attacking the Site now with DenielOfService attack
I kinda knew tey would do that
Twerps
Hic
@J schinger,…Here’s an interesting interview with Harrison Koehli referring to psychopaths in business and politics etc,…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mvad6de6tfA&feature=related
@ Dedo
reminds me of Will smith in “Enemy Of The State”
Where will Smith is removin all ta bugs by strippin into is underwear
lololololol
ROFL
Hic
Mother earth .
Tis was was posted to my FB a/c this am.
The Shell monitoring website, royaldutchshellplc.com, posted a letter last week on the Corrib gas project by “a former Shell employee in Ireland” which reveals that Shell “seem to have treated the Irish like just another third world country. They corrupt the government, try to steal the resources, pay no taxes, and treat the people like crap. Shell is making no friends amongst the Irish and I suppose they don’t care as long as they can manipulate (buy off?) the government…the State of Alaska gets up to a 20% royalty on oil and gas produced from State lands. That is ‘off the top’, not after expenses, return of invested capital, etc. That royalty did NOT stop development of Prudhoe Bay, nor will it stop development of the gas reserves in Alaska. The State of Alaska has benefited immensely from the oil royalty revenues… It seems to me that the Irish government should be able to collect a similar ‘off the top’ royalty from the Corrib gas. I seriously doubt that it would stop development of those reserves. Shell would squeal like a stuck pig, but so what. The Irish government need only look to Norway to see what responsible management of their country’s natural resources could do for them.”
http://www.wsm.ie/c/shell-corrib-tunnel-bord-pleanala
The only time revolt will come is when food is scarce, money is worthless and people will starve.
Then and only then will you see a justification of the word revolt.
Until then, the show must go on.
Keep up the good work Max & Stacy!
@Bonn and Mirror,…….They’ll also be a device to detect the bugs,…
And the wheels , they keep’a rollin’ along,….
Have you noticed how every security device is marketed as safer than the previous,..etc etc
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2010/08/26/british-postcard-scenes-make-new-uk-passports-safer-115875-22514425/
What’s the ole cliche “if you can make it, you can break it”
@ MirrorMirror
I would put the GPS device on a Donkay
lol
ROFL
Hic
@gussy … “people really are so much friendlier”
How true !
Sorry, forgot to mention that Yes, I did indeed miss y’all.
@ MirrorMirror
Its becomin so looney they say you dont need inecticides fer GMO & Monsanto Seeds “cause if Insects eat the seed/plants produce they will Die but Its Good for Humans” ; What Crap
And this Scanner Sh!t can pass through Steel but its Good for Humans
Madame Query too Dicovered Gamma Rays
She was deader tan a Slab of stone sooon after
lololololol
ROFL
Hic
Hello everyone, how sweet that I was missed, had a fantastic time in the Schwarzwald, lots of beautiful walks to the lakes for swims, outdoor fires in the evening, lots of good food and good beer, only problem too many Krauts, specially those effing mountain bikers so bloody aggressive.
Things in that neck of the woods (ooh poor pun) are buzzing, what a contrast to Ireland. However the general impression the Germans have of the Irish is that we appear to be getting our house in order (haha if only they knew).
For all its faults it is nice to be back Ireland, the people really are so much friendlier, who needs money?
It looks like Twilight zone from here
Tank God I never wanted to follow me Bro’s Footsteps to do an MSc in USA
Safe India
Good Ole terra ferma Still not planin to Fly fer 4 to 10 years
lololol
Hic
@Bonn … “Government agents can sneak onto your property in the middle of the night, put a GPS device on the bottom of your car and keep track of everywhere you go.”
LOL … so there’ll be another market created for a device that can find them ?
So before going out, you check your car for bugs ?
The Govt. will also probably employ MORE people to keep putting them back on your car .
LOL ! … GDP rising!
Whoaaa USA has lost it
The Government’s New Right to Track Your Every Move With GPS
http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/08599201315000;_ylt=AtaAG7Al5H4OhlrNeiYxJ679xg8F;_ylu=X3oDMTM1YmVrZWpsBGFzc2V0A3RpbWUvMjAxMDA4MjUvMDg1OTkyMDEzMTUwMDAEY2NvZGUDbW9zdHBvcHVsYXIEY3BvcwM0BHBvcwM0BHNlYwN5bl90b3Bfc3RvcmllcwRzbGsDdGhlZ292ZXJubWVu
U.S. Court Rules That Government Can Secretly Track You With GPS, Privacy is For Rich People Only
TIME report details legal ruling that befits activity of KGB or the East German Stasi
http://www.infowars.com/u-s-court-rules-that-government-can-secretly-track-you-with-gps-privacy-is-for-rich-people-only/
Mother earth
yes i’m very much inclined to agree. I dont fancy a BP style disaster. however the article i sent was meant more to point up the level of corruption and sway over policy in general by Big Oil , tis is a mini Nigeria scnario when you get down to talking to locals.As Stacy and max pointed ou last week.
@gussy – you’re back you ol’ crank!! how was your vacation? did you miss us? I think I speak for all of us (lol) when I say we all missed you!!!
I get the feeling that the ECB realises the debts are unpayable to its banking clients so therefore its policey is to sustain the extraction of wealth until the state is at or near collapse.
Then only then they will restructure the banking debts to enable us to continue to pay the now higher sov debt that was expanded to cushion the banking sector.
Out of curiosity I would like to find a answer to a simple question that nobody seems to have a answer to.
How much yearly interest is payed on Irelands external bank paper ?
Nobody seems to have a answer to this apperantly simple question.
It is very curious.
@gussy
Where’ve you been?? I’ve missed your self-perpetuating egotism!
Don’t forget to pull the forelock’ser’.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/aug/26/trapped-chilean-miners-wait-rescue,,, like platos cave ,,the american and irish experiment is ongoing .im sure london and washington/new york will have their financial social engineers down to chile ..
I think our government has not grasped that what is happening right now is economic warfare. They tried the ‘good oul little Ireland’ and ‘good reputation’ angle. That might well be all and good up in Temple Bar having the craic with the tourists but this is international finance lads.
We’ve bowed to the rating agencies (corrupt as f**), we’re attached at the hip to Trichet and the ECB, whose policies will clearly be suited to the French and German industrial bases and we’ve pumped more money into black hole banks than people can get their head around. Meanwhile, 14% unemployment, crumbling health service, mass brain-drain exodus and a waning and tired population.
We’re paying more now than Greece to borrow. Crazy. As for why the protests haven’t been bigger, I really can’t fathom it. People here have had it relatively good (looking back it was an illusion, even the health service was a disgrace during the good times) and the majority still expect that things turn around, with bullshit business cycle arguments. We’re going no-where fast.
Max commented before about the conservatism of the Irish financial press; Morgan Kelly gave warnings, shunned, McWilliams “go hang yourself”. There were few but stern warnings – but the music kept playing. And Brian Cowen, finance minister at the time is now ‘leading the country’.
Who runs Ireland? Not the people for sure.
Usual MSM crap .. to sell newspapers and get webhits.
What happened to the North Korean Nukes BTW ?
Heard anything more about that since the scare ?
No !
In short … the Financial System is LONG BK ( ask MS ) … it’s just that we are being entertained to look the other way.
@seosamhogallunai
This value you mention is of little use if you are dead because of the turmoil related to climate change. I am rocking on two discussions. Economically Europe has plenty of resouces as fas as I can see, in contrast with the US. Environmentally we are also better of because we harbour less idiots and are less divided (although the US is trying to change that)..But we should not use the oil, we should replace it and get alternative energy gold mines..
Hello, the Irish people make good peasants (while the rest of Europe embraced modernity in the 1870′s, it arrived in Ireland in the late 1970′s), first we had the Church lord it over us, then the Anglo-Irish aristocracy, so what if we know have the banks lording it over us, who cares, it’s a reversion to the mean. Our young people will leave the country as they have done so many times before, those remaining will pay off the debt, the ECB will continue on buying Irish debt, same old same old, one knows ones place in Irish society, one mustn’t get above one’s station.
@Marc Authier
Yep, No excuses there, although, ultimately, we have both the industry and the energy to back up the bubble related inflation (which happens when someone sells a house with a huge profit because a bank just put the new owner in debt)..And we already have low wage countries in the neigborhood, akin to Mexico, but without the drugwar. Sorry, we are m u c h better off..
Mother earth
The €420,000,000,000+ Ireland is giving away (to Shell).
Vast quantities of gas and oil have been discovered under Irish waters in the Atlantic Ocean over the past 15 years. The Government’s figures put the value of these reserves at €420 billion (€420,000,000,000), but this is a very conservative estimate. The real figure is likely to be much higher, especially as the global price of oil and gas rises (see explanation below*).
So what will the Government be spending these new-found riches on? The answer is: Nothing. This wealth will be leaving Ireland, thanks to a deal made between the corrupt Haughey government and multinational oil companies. Minister Ray Burke (later jailed for corruption) changed the law in 1987, reducing the State’s share in our offshore oil and gas from 50% to zero and abolishing royalties. In 1992, Minister Bertie Ahern reduced the tax rate for the profits made from the sale of these resources from 50% to 25%
http://www.shelltosea.com/
http://petitions.contact.ie/content/suspend-work-corrib-gas-project-pending-full-investigation
O’Neil ? Hummmm ? Think there is lack of objectivity from this frenchman ?:)
Just kidding. Wishfull thinking. You add one irish downgrade by here and another downgrade by there and suddenly the snowball becomes a wall of snow and an avalanche. Maybe a butterlly downgrade. The problem is that there are many butterflies squashed. All these squashed butterflies will globally affect all the structure. In due time.
The Irish are disinclined towards rioting as a reult of a twenty year war in the North. Even in the South it was a case of having to shut off when you’d hear this stuff all the time – We are fully aware of a Mafia like hold that Fiana Fail andFiana Gael have – Watch the space the giant awakens soon?
@Mother Earth
You have a quite a scrumptuous real estate bubble in Holland. Almost the same price of a black tulip. 
Well. That’s an easy. Shell is protected by Satan’s army. Of course.
Goldman Sachs chief global economist Jim O’Neill has described Ireland’s downgrade as “pretty insignificant”.
http://www.independent.ie/business/european/rating-revision-deemed-pretty-insignificant-2311907.html
I take it we Europeans aren’t that dumb to kill our coherence, at least I hope so. Germany and Fance at least will not be on board with the US racket, and the political atmosphere in Holland is clearly showing signs of ‘awakening’..My question is: Which army protects Shell?
first — yes revolt!
heads on a stick!